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“There Were Victims”: Inside the Demonstration at Epstein’s New Mexico Ranch · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. One of the biggest mysteries, if you will,
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when it comes to Epstein, is what occurred at Zoro Ranch.
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And unfortunately, the authorities had a chance to really blow
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the doors off of that investigation back in twenty nineteen,
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twenty twenty, and they refused to do so. So I
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went down to Santa Fe and Zoro Ranch to do
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some investigating of my own. And when I got there
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and I started talking to people, I was blown away
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by how many people knew something was up at Zoro Ranch.
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And according to the sources I spoke with, including ex
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law enforcement, it was ignored because of Jeffrey Epstein's contacts
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and his political connections inside New Mexico and out obviously,
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but he had a lot of powerful friends in New Mexico,
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the King family, Bill Richardson and others, so he was
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given that secrecy in New Mexico. And when the investigation
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into Epstein kicked off in earnest, the state of New
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Mexico kicked the investigation up to the federal government, and
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of course the federal government never even bothered to raid
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Zoro Ranch or do any real investigation in New Mexico.
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So now people obviously they're pissed off, and now that
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people are finding out about this, they want answers, and
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people down in New Mexico have taken this step to
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even go up to the ranch and protest. So today
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we're going to talk about that protest add Zoro Ranch,
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and to do that, we have an article from the
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Santa Fe, New Mexican. The author of this article is
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Andre Sulkin. A handful of armed private securities tood guard
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at the former Jeffrey Epstein estate warning those gathered for
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a roadside vigil not to step onto the property. Oh
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isn't that nice? The new owner, the Huffeen family armed
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guards really, Oh, don't step onto the property, bunch of
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fucking clowns, cowards. Rather protect Jeffrey Epstein. Huh, they're protecting
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their filth, said Pauline Simms, a retired Albuquerque teacher, as
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she recorded the guards from the other side of the gate.
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They know what happened there. There is nothing hidden in
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the world, she added. Never eventually it'll all be out,
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And you know what, I hope, So, I really hope so.
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And up until recently I had zero faith that we'd
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ever find out what really happened. In New Mexico, nobody cared. Literally,
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nobody gave a shit. Now, of course there are a
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few people obviously that you know, know the score and
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wanted to know what was going on there, But I'm
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talking about in the overall conversation, New Mexico has never
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even really brought up the island. This, the island that.
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And I told you all back then that there was
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something real bad going on at this ranch. Now, I'm
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not going to say, you know, there was a bunch
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of murders or anything like that, because I don't know.
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But do I think it's possible. I certainly do. And
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I also think that there were some weird ass experiments
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going on there as well. What those experiments were, again,
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I wish I could tell you. Around sixty people came
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to the former Zoro Ranch now known as Rancho San
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Rafael Saturday morning for a part memorial, part protest to
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pay tribute to Epstein's survivors. While some praise the state's
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efforts now to investigate what happened, many lambasted the state
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and federal officials for acting too late or failing all
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together to bring justice to the high profile participants of
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his alleged years long operation to sex traffic miners to
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powerful clients. That was just part of it. Remember, Epstein
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was doing a lot more than just trafficking miners. And
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even if they can come up with an excuse for
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why they missed that, how did they miss all the
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financial crimes, How did they miss all the other stuff
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that was going on, How they missed the immigration scam
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that was being run. Well, the answer is they didn't
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miss it. They ignored it. Eddie Aragon, a radio host
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in something of a central figure in New Mexico's part
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of the Epstein saga, was among the roadside crowd. In
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twenty nineteen, Aragon received an email from an anonymous ender
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claiming to be a former Zoro Ranch employee. Did you
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know that somewhere in the hills outside of Zoro two
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foreign girls were buried on the orders of Jeffrey and
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Madam G. The person wrote, with Madam G likely referring
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to Glenn Maxwell, both died by strangulation during rough fetish sex.
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Now that certainly fits. I can't tell you one way
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or the other with certainty that there's people buried on
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this property. But girls dying during rough sex is not
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on heard of, especially when we're talking about these rich
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degenerates who have no regard for anybody, never mind some
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girl that they're abusing. So did somebody go too far
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one day? Very possible? And you see this is the
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big problem, right, This is why an investigation should have
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kicked off years ago. But because you didn't do that,
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here we are now, and now there's a lot more
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people interested in what's going on. And I think that
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the more people that are demanding answers, the closer we're
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gonna get. Does that mean we're gonna get over the
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goal line and have all the answers we want? Doubtful?
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But if New Mexico here does something a little different
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and opens a real estate investigation and holds people accountable,
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that could set a template moving forward. You mean to
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tell me nobody committed any crimes in New York. I
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got bad news for you. They most certainly did. The
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message also included seven video descriptions, offering to send Eragon
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the videos if he sent one bitcoin. He didn't pay, but,
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thinking the claims might be legitimate, forwarded the email to
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the FBI, only for it to resurface in a recent
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dump of Epstein files from the US Justice Department. The
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New Mexico Land Commissioner, Stephanie Garcia Richard urged an investigation
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into the reported bodies earlier this month. The New Mexico
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Department of Justice reopened its criminal investigation in mid February,
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and state lawmakers created the Truth Commission during the recently
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concluded legislative session to investigate Epstein's activities at the ranch. So, look,
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I'm not going to blame the new politicians for what
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the previous ones did. Let's give them a chance to
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do the right thing. Right. I try to give everybody
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the benefit of the doubt. Until you prove to me
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you're an absolute moron, I'll give you the benefit of
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the doubt. So let's see what this Truth Commission can
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come up with, and hopefully they subpoena people and they
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have a state level run investigation that the FEDS can't
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tapper with. That's crucial because we know we can't trust
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the DOJ and we know that Congress isn't going to
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install any kind of real guardrails here. They've already proven
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they're not going to do that. So where do we
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go from here, maybe we have to take it to
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the state level. I was doing this six and a
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half years ago. Why weren't we doing this back then?
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Aragon said in an interview. Besides Laurance's gate, he doesn't
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expect that to change now. I tried contacting the FBI
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again to give them an update on the person I
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think is responsible for the email. There's nothing that's going
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to be done. Look, he's not wrong, and I hate
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to be cynical, but history has shown us they're not
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going to do shit about this. And if they really
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wanted to do something, the DOJ would have actually been transparent.
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But no. While many present praise state lawmaker efforts, Aragon
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called baloney political theater that he said wouldn't target Democrats
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named in the files, including former President Bill Clinton and
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the late former Governor Bill Richardson. Well, there's a lot
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of politics at play, especially now, and it's disgusting because
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what it does is it puts the survivors and the
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victims second, and instead of centering them, it centers politics.
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And of course that's how things get all muddled, more confusing,
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and how people end up justifying, not investigating things. Oh,
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this is just a hoax, and he said it's now
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too late to uncover anything, including bodies reported in the email.
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Owing to years of development and changes to the property,
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the whole place is different. They revamped it. They raised
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the labyrinth that's in the back, he said. Despite his doubts,
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he supports those who gathered Saturday. I think it's good
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that they're out here. He said. There were victims, Yeah,
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there were victctims. There were a lot of victims in
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New Mexico, one hundred percent. Whether those victims were American
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girls or otherwise, I don't give a shit. A victim
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is a victim, and the powerful preying on us has
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to end. I refuse to be under the fucking boot
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of these people. I refuse, and I will not shut
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up about it until something changes. The ranch's new owners,
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revealed earlier this month by the New Mexican to be
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the family of Don Hauffens, a former Republican Texas state senator,
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were ordered to cease construction on the exterior gate, which
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appeared hal completed Saturday owing to a lack of a permit.
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The Haffens family has aimed to rehabilitate the image of
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the sprawling ranch, planning a Christian retreat on the site
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and renaming it Rancho San Rafael, a Christian retreat on
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this site. Oh that's a whole different level of weird. Now. Look,
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I'm certainly not into the occult or anything like that.
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I really don't have any idea, but this seems like
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a desecration to me. We have a sight here where
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people might have been murdered. We know people were raped
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and assaulted, but sure, let's bring a Christian camp here.
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Here's an idea, mister rich guy, why don't you turn
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Zoro Ranch into some kind of facility that hurts people
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who were abused? Just a thought. Many attendees were struck
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with emotion standing on New Mexico forty one, dwarfed by
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the half completed gate and under surveillance by cameras placed
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beside it. Yo. When I went there, there was nobody there, obviously.
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So I went to the gate and they had all
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these cameras everywhere, and I ring the bell, right, nobody answers.
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So I ring the bell again, and they have like
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this intercom system. So I start talking shit, calling them cowards,
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jumps the whole thing. Nobody ever showed up, not one person,
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not a security guard. Nobody I saw them there. They
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were standing on the property, but nobody showed up. And
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I was there for like an hour. But the real
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meat and potatoes on my trip came talking to people.
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I mean, even the lady that was running my hotel
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knew that something goofy was going on down at Zorro Ranch.
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A Santa Fe resident gave Silva seventy three, originally from
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Las Crusis, drove toward the distant hilltop manner. He gave
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only one word for what its image invoked, atrocities. Kim
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Hatch forty six, of Rio Rancho, grew emotional, embracing her
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son William nine, as the two listened to a prayer.
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You have no soul, She called out to the guards,
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who were approached briefly by Santa Fe County Sheriff's deputies
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before they drove off. Well, let's not get too carried
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away on the guards. They're doing their job right. It's
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the people that employ them, and I would never encourage
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anybody to wild out. That's what they want you to do.
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Don't give them what they want. Be cool, calm, collected,
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and blast them into oblivion with facts. That's how you Win.
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I'm absolutely outraged by what our government, local and federal
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is covering up, set Hatch, a survivor of sexual assault
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and an army veteran victims are not being heard, not
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being believed. Attendees placed crosses, stuffed animals, bouquets of flowers,
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and solar lights. At the roadside. There were posters and
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copies of Epstein's victim, Virginia Roberts, whose memoir released a
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few months after her death by suicide, in which he
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alleges Epstein ran a sex trafficking ring of miners to
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serve a wealthy and powerful clientele. He most certainly did,
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but not in the way a lot of people think.
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It wasn't like Heidi flies people being shamed and stepping
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down from their positions. That's not accountability, Hatch said. We
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need actual justice, not just continued thoughts and prayers that
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don't mean anything. I brought my son because he needs
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to know what can happen so he can be part
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of the next generation to make sure that goddamn doesn't
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And good for Mishatch. Raise your son to know better
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and to speak out when shit is not right. The
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memorial was organized by Hot Flash ABQ, whose events usually
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take the shape of dances at Albuquerque Bars. Co founder
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Kathy Barber sixty three and Kathy Kundas fifty nine, visited
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the ranch two weeks ago and found no sign acknowledging
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Epstein or his victims, something they aimed to fix. We
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wanted to let people know that we're going to remember
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the victims and stand with the survivors, Barber said, likening
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the roadside memorial to cross his placed after car crashes.
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When they went to construct it, she said, one of
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the security personnel asked, why are you chasing a five
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year old story? Don't you have anything better to do? Wow?
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They really said that. So tracked what I said about
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security a second ago and replace it with a gigantic
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fuck you, mister, tough guy. Huh, why are you chasing
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a five year old story? What if it was your daughter?
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Tough guy? How'd you feel about that? I know, I know,
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I get it. Your dear leader told you it was
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a hoax and you should move on. But I doubt
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you would be if it was your daughter. We figured, yes,
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we do, barbera said, will organize something bigger and better.
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So you have to look at every single day as
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you drive in. She noted that the memorial is protected
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as it doesn't lie on the ranch property, and her
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group aims to host future events at the site. Many attendees,
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including Barber, said they did not identify with a political
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party and instead sought accountability for all who participated in
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the alleged operation. Yo, that's the message right there. To
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help these political parties. They're the reason we're in this mess.
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It's gonna be up to us, folks, Oka, It's going
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to be up to us coming together as a coalition
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of people who are done, people who are tired of
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the bullshit, and people who are ready for real change.
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The Feds ain't doing shit. Loue Gibney, sixty five, a
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construction worker from the East Mountains who identified as a
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political independent. They've known about this for a long time
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and just covered it up because it's expedient, he added. Eventually,
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they're going to have to pay attention to us. Everybody's
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got to realize it's not left and right, it's top
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going against the bottom. Ay Man bro one thousand percent
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where the enemy. These people despise you. You didn't get
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that from those emails. You couldn't see that from the
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way they talked about you, they hate you and your kids.
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They're expendable, whether it's to be abused or sent to
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die in some foreign entanglement. It's all the same shit
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to them. They don't care. You know, all these politicians
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care about is more power and more wealth. And they
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know that if we ever team up, you know, the
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pitchforks and the torches, that their whole entire scam and
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scheme is up. So that's why they continue to promote
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all these stupid ass wedge issues that were designed to
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cause division. It's all part of the plan. So when
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I see people coming together like this and couching their politics,
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it gives me a little hope because I'm telling you
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right now, we're going to need to work together if
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we want real accountability, and I think rallies like this
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are a step in the right direction. Now, with that said,
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do I trust the government, local or otherwise to do
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the right thing? I do not, So I'll remain hopeful
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but skeptical as we continue to navigate our way through
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the madness known as the Jeffrey Epstein Maelstroom. All the
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