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Nic Cage Secretly Invades Nick Fury? · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger or Drunk Collidder podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Castin and with me as always
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  Speaker 1: is these horror trailers have got to be payback for
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  Speaker 1: making him edit every episode.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Strickland, who Get who Ga? Who go Whoga? Who Get?
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  Speaker 2: Who Get? Who? Who?
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  Speaker 1: Yet again, I am too uh bane old to understand
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  Speaker 1: your reference.
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  Speaker 2: To Banal Banal? I mean, okay, well, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: say that watching your homework, then, Ariel is to listen
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  Speaker 2: to the Broadway soundtrack for Frozen. It's the ope song
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  Speaker 2: for Act two.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't like Frozen, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna like it more when you
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  Speaker 2: listen to the Broadway version. Although who Goes a fun
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  Speaker 2: song because it's the the dude who runs the sauna,
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's got You would appreciate it because you
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  Speaker 2: once played a character at the Renaissance Festival who had
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  Speaker 2: a very strong Scandinavian accent, and that's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: gag for this particular song, So I think you would
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it from just a just like a musical comedy standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: So you should just look up the song huga which
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  Speaker 2: is h y.
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  Speaker 1: G g e g g a. Oh okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Sauna is a Finnish world word. Hoga is comfort, isn't it,
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  Speaker 1: and like, yes, Swedish or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, that's a good job. Yeah, it's comfort
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  Speaker 2: and cooozy.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. I I only know the that are from Ikia,
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  Speaker 1: but I know the former because I'm studying Finnish on Duolingo,
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  Speaker 1: And boy is that a mouthful figuratively and literally.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I mean it has very little, very little
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  Speaker 2: resemblance to English, even though if you go far enough
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  Speaker 2: back you start to find root languages that fed into both.
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  Speaker 2: But that's like two thousand years, so it's you don't
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  Speaker 2: even know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if there are languages that I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Swedish and Norwegian crossover with Finnish.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, I think I was thinking Frisian,
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  Speaker 2: and Frisian is more Germanic than it is Norwegian, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm guessing you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Finnish has like two or three other languages that
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  Speaker 1: relate to it. If you look at that big family
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  Speaker 1: tree of languages that's out there somewhere on the internet.
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  Speaker 1: If that's accurate, then I think it's like I'm probably
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  Speaker 1: misre memory, but it's something like Estonian is close to
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  Speaker 1: it or something, or it's Hungarian is the same offshoot.
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  Speaker 2: Got it Hungarian? Okay, Well, I admire you for taking
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  Speaker 2: the initiative to learn another language. It's something that I
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  Speaker 2: have thought about doing, and that's as far as I've
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  Speaker 2: gotten is thinking about doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, like I started French and I started
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  Speaker 1: Spanish because of course I took those in school. Most
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  Speaker 1: people do. And then I jumped over to Esperanto because
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  Speaker 1: I was like, it's there, why not and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: super intuitive for me. And then I briefly jumped over
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  Speaker 1: to Hebrew because I was like, let this would be cool.
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  Speaker 1: It relates back to my heritage. But then I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize that you have to learn the alphabet first and
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  Speaker 1: quickly dropped it. But Finish is the one I've stuck
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  Speaker 1: with the longest and it's the most useful of them all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you never know when you're gonna need to
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  Speaker 2: bust out Finish when you're out and abount in rural Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: I know how to call myself a wizard in finish,
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  Speaker 1: just the best thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's let's move on from the esoteric intricacies
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  Speaker 2: of learning another language and shift into high gear to
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  Speaker 2: blast through another patented thirty seconds or less segment.
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  Speaker 1: All right, First up, we had talked about the other
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  Speaker 1: week that HBO was possibly moving some of their shows
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  Speaker 1: to Netflix, and that is a factual truth. Now Insecure
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  Speaker 1: has now landed on Netflix. It's the first in probably
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  Speaker 1: it's a first in several other of several other titles
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  Speaker 1: that will land there, including a brother specific six feet
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  Speaker 1: under m Malers. You know they are moving. HBO is
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  Speaker 1: also moving other things to other channels or Max I guess,
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  Speaker 1: like Westworld to Roku and two be so yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't have Max, or you just want to watch
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  Speaker 1: the older stuff, you might be able to cut down
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  Speaker 1: on your streaming services.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent. Next up, the Barbie movie is facing bands in Asia,
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  Speaker 2: all because of nine little dashes, specifically the nine dashes
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  Speaker 2: that appear on a map that includes the South China Sea,
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  Speaker 2: an area that several countries claim falls into their territory.
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  Speaker 2: But the map in Barbie shows it as belonging to China.
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  Speaker 2: As such, countries like Vietnam and the Philippines are considering
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  Speaker 2: fanning Barbie for including the map in the scene. Who
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  Speaker 2: knew that Barbie was going to be so politically controversial.
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  Speaker 1: She always tried to be politically relevant. Okay. Next, we
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  Speaker 1: had talked about with all of the strikes and things
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  Speaker 1: going on like that, we talked about a lot of
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  Speaker 1: how AI plays into the Actors' Union and the Writers'
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  Speaker 1: Union and the Directors Guild and all those things. But
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  Speaker 1: we also talked about how IATSE was looking into how
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  Speaker 1: to effectively bring AI into the workplace in a healthy manner.
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  Speaker 1: They created the Commission on Artificial Intelligence in May. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now they've released their plan and core principles for using
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  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, which include using a comprehensive approach, research, collaboration
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  Speaker 1: with partners and stakeholders, education organization, maintaining workers' rights, member
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  Speaker 1: job security and union jurisdictions, political and legislative advocacy, and
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  Speaker 1: collective bargaining. So they are moving full steam ahead on
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  Speaker 1: figuring out how to work in cohesion with AI.
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  Speaker 2: Cool all right. Next up Alison Mack, who appeared on
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  Speaker 2: the series Smallville as Clark's friend Chloe Sullivan has been
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  Speaker 2: released from prison a year early. She was serving a
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  Speaker 2: three year sentence for her role in recruiting and grooming
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  Speaker 2: women to join the infamous NXIVM cult, which claimed to
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  Speaker 2: be a multi level marketing company and which Mac belonged to.
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  Speaker 2: The head of the cult. Keith Ranier is currently serving
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  Speaker 2: out a one hundred and twenty year sentence for some
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  Speaker 2: truly awful crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that I had forgotten that had happened, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of surprised that she's getting out early. Okay, Next,
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  Speaker 1: normally we put trailers into our full section, but there
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  Speaker 1: was a tiny teaser trailer released for Stranger Things The
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  Speaker 1: First Shadow, which is a play that is coming to
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  Speaker 1: the West End this year, and in theory it's well
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  Speaker 1: not in theory, it takes place twenty five years before
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  Speaker 1: the Netflix shows starts, and in theory it's going to
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  Speaker 1: have some teasers for the final season, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It means that only a very select audience is going
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  Speaker 1: to be privy to some Easter eggs neat.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a huge fan of the Mission Impossible film
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  Speaker 2: series and you don't want them to stop? Well, then
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  Speaker 2: you and Tom Cruise have something in common. He told
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  Speaker 2: an Australian reporter that he hopes to still be doing
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  Speaker 2: Mission Impossible movies when he's Harrison Ford's age, which means
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  Speaker 2: we would have about two more decades of the stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and at that age, the Impossible mission might involve staying
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  Speaker 2: up past six pm and still make the early Bird
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  Speaker 2: special the next day.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all of my stories are updates on previous
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  Speaker 1: things we've talked about, and next is Dead by Daylight.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked about Nick Cage coming to Dead by
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  Speaker 1: Daylight and then we talked about what his character would be. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now we know his powers. They are acting powers, including dramaturgy,
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  Speaker 1: scene partner and plot twist and things like screaming and
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  Speaker 1: high knee runs of it's absolutely hilarious. He's available, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: for purchase on July twenty fifth, but I think some
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  Speaker 1: people are getting like preview runs with him so fun stuff,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sure that some of the more popular Dead
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  Speaker 2: by Daylight streamers are getting early access because that's a
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  Speaker 2: great way to market your your downloadable content, is to
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  Speaker 2: get it to get it in front of some of
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  Speaker 2: the popular streamers out there, okay, wondering when you can
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  Speaker 2: sing Peaches, Peaches, Peaches, Peaches, Peaches along with the Super
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  Speaker 2: Mario Brothers movie while streaming on your devices at home. Well,
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  Speaker 2: starting August third, you can do it if you've got
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  Speaker 2: peacock because that's where it's going to stream. And I
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  Speaker 2: still have some time here, so I guess I'll throw
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  Speaker 2: in that this movie is the third highest grossest grossing
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  Speaker 2: not grossest, although maybe animated film and history, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: third highest grossing anime film and history is the Super
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  Speaker 2: Mario Brothers. I'm just I'm gonna go watch Kubo in
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  Speaker 2: the Two Strings again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, uh, that surprises me. Something that doesn't surprise
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  Speaker 1: me is that the Powerpuff Girls Live action TV show
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  Speaker 1: is officially totally scrapped. It came out in May of
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  Speaker 1: this year that CW would not be moving forward with it,
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  Speaker 1: although they kind of said that priorly because like previews
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  Speaker 1: and sneak peaks had shown that it wasn't really hitting
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  Speaker 1: the right tones and so they had to rework it.
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  Speaker 1: But now it looks like it's just scrapped all together.
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  Speaker 1: Sad news for all those people wanting to see the
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  Speaker 1: Powerpuff Girls in human form as opposed to Meetball with
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  Speaker 1: Force Spaghetti's form.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this this show pretty much through
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  Speaker 2: the entirety of its development, right, Like this was something
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  Speaker 2: we talked about. Yeah, possibly even before the current incarnation
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  Speaker 2: of this podcast, right, I think I think, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think we might have talked about this in the before
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  Speaker 2: before times on this podcast, which has gone through like
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  Speaker 2: three different eras of the show. And you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's one where I I never want to see anyone
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  Speaker 2: out of a job. Okay, I want to say that
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  Speaker 2: off the top. At the same time, I felt that
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  Speaker 2: the whole push to create a Powerpuff Girl's property where
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  Speaker 2: the girls all have like emotional baggage and they're resentful
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  Speaker 2: of their situation in life and all that, it seemed
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  Speaker 2: like it was so like one hundred and eighty degrees
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  Speaker 2: out of alignment with the original show that what I
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  Speaker 2: was worried about was that it was going to become
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  Speaker 2: like Velma, that it was going to become a show
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  Speaker 2: that almost seems to hate itself as well as the
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  Speaker 2: original property that spawned it. And I don't. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: really a fan of that.
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  Speaker 1: Neither am I. Although we are going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: some more of that later in this episode, because it's
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  Speaker 1: a trend. I really think like it's it's got to
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  Speaker 1: stem out of the disenchantment that millennials are feeling with
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  Speaker 1: the current system of everything, right, Like when we talk
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  Speaker 1: about how different generations see something which are gross, you know,
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  Speaker 1: over simplifications and generalizations that not everybody agrees with, of course,
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  Speaker 1: because you're never going to get one hundred percent of
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  Speaker 1: a population to agree on anything, but you know, like
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  Speaker 1: it's generalized that millennials are are disillusioned with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the way that society has run with college, you know,
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  Speaker 1: debt and jobs and starting families and buying houses and
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  Speaker 1: all of that. So like, while I understand that media
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  Speaker 1: plays to the current generation as a millennial organ trail generation,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Yes, I'm disillusioned by some things, but that
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  Speaker 1: means in my cinema, I want an escape. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of surprised that everything is just so cynical lately
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  Speaker 1: to turn on beloved classics.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting because I'm I'm older, so I I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and I honestly don't know what what other Gen X
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  Speaker 2: generation folks are drawn to because most of my friends
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  Speaker 2: are younger than I am. I don't have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of friends who are are of my same generation, so
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of weird. I'm kind of curious what they're
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  Speaker 2: drawn to. You know, when you start looking at think
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  Speaker 2: pieces about generations, gen X is almost always completely left
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  Speaker 2: off of those, like, we don't even merit discussion. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of gen xers who
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  Speaker 2: are like, I'm totally cool with that. We don't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't need anyone, yeah, you know, analyzing me or picking
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  Speaker 2: me apart. It's fine, and I get that too, but
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  Speaker 2: it does mean like I don't really have a I
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  Speaker 2: don't have a finger on the pulse of my own generation.
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  Speaker 2: But like you, Ariel, I would like to see a
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  Speaker 2: little less cynicism. I was raised at a time when
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of compassion and optimism in the
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  Speaker 2: in the the stuff I was watching, because I was
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  Speaker 2: raised on stuff like The Muppet Show, which had an
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  Speaker 2: anarchic edge to it, but it also had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of heart, or Sesame Street, which was like all heart
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  Speaker 2: and no edge at all, excepting like rare cases where
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  Speaker 2: the edge is just something that the adults are going
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  Speaker 2: to pick up on.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, but you know it didn't work in
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  Speaker 1: the case of the Powerpuff Girls. It's we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: it works when Barbie comes out, and we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: it works in some of the other things we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about in this episode, but before we get
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  Speaker 1: to it, and we could talk forever about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: generational gaps and what what we disagree with. Sure, we
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  Speaker 1: should talk about what we do watch. Have you watched anything, Kicky.
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  Speaker 2: You'll notice in our show notes that I didn't write anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's because I said there.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it's an oversight.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I sat there and thought, like, wow, I'm
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  Speaker 2: really like slacking. I have not I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like it's work. I have not watched anything,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't really have an excuse for it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: i'll tell you this. On fourth of July, I did
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  Speaker 2: my annual tradition of watching seventeen seventy six, the film
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  Speaker 2: version of the stage musical seventeen seventy six, And so
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  Speaker 2: I did that. That was That's what I do every year,
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  Speaker 2: and this year was no exception. And I enjoyed it,
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  Speaker 2: even though I was quoting the whole thing along with it,
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  Speaker 2: because I've seen it so many times at this point
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  Speaker 2: that that it's large parts of that show are are
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  Speaker 2: in my memory permanently, not all of it. I can't, like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't just spout off the whole thing from beginning
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  Speaker 2: to end. But that was the one thing that I
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  Speaker 2: watched that I go beyond stuff like YouTube videos or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't think anything else. The other thing I
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  Speaker 2: would mention is that I started playing a game called
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  Speaker 2: Dave the Diver, And if you are a fan of
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  Speaker 2: weird games, Dave the Diver definitely fits that because it's
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  Speaker 2: a game where in the daytime you're a diver who
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  Speaker 2: is trying to collect fish, and at night you are
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  Speaker 2: a manager of a sushi restaurant, and so there's two
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  Speaker 2: different styles of gameplay. For the main part of the game.
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  Speaker 2: One part is swimming around trying to catch fish, trying
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  Speaker 2: to avoid hazards, that kind of thing. Your health is
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  Speaker 2: measured by how much oxygen you have, so if you
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  Speaker 2: get hurt, you lose oxygen, and that means you have
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  Speaker 2: less time you can spend under the ocean. And if
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  Speaker 2: you run out of oxygen while you're under the ocean,
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  Speaker 2: you're rescued, but you end up losing all the stuff
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  Speaker 2: you caught except for one. You can choose one thing
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  Speaker 2: to keep and everything else is gone, and then in
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  Speaker 2: the evening you're like running around serving customers and cleaning
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  Speaker 2: up after them and that kind of stuff. There are
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  Speaker 2: other elements to the game as well. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to spoil it, because they're like little mini games that
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  Speaker 2: occasionally pop up as the story unfolds. And there is
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  Speaker 2: a story, which also makes this game silly. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Korean game. The translation is pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: but it also means that there are like there are
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  Speaker 2: personalities and tropes that are probably common to Korean culture
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  Speaker 2: that will just stick out as being odd to you
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  Speaker 2: if you're not familiar with Korean culture, and I count
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  Speaker 2: myself among those because occasionally, like characters will say something
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, if you said that to me,
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  Speaker 2: probably I wouldn't slap you, but I would think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like a charming game that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: the mix of Echo the Dolphin and Diner Dash that
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  Speaker 1: I've always been wanting.
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  Speaker 2: I do highly recommend it. I do think it's a
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  Speaker 2: game worth playing. I bought it on Steam and I
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  Speaker 2: got the DLC as well, and I think I heard
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  Speaker 2: about it on The Besties, it's a podcast that Justin
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  Speaker 2: and Griffin McElroy are on along with Chris Plant and
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  Speaker 2: Russ Freshnick, and I think Justin talked about it. So
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  Speaker 2: I tried it out and I was like, oh man,
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  Speaker 2: this is my jam. It's like it's got that perfect
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  Speaker 2: loop that keeps you playing to the point where you're like,
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  Speaker 2: I have got to turn this off or I'm never
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  Speaker 2: going to bed.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. I didn't watch as much geeky media as
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  Speaker 1: I normally do, mainly because over the holiday weekend I
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  Speaker 1: had a house guest and so we did a lot
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  Speaker 1: more board games. So we played like the shatter On
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  Speaker 1: board game and the Fallout board game and Legendary and
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  Speaker 1: things like that. But I did watch some geeky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the first few episodes of Is It Cake? Two,
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  Speaker 1: which is horribly dorky but a lot of fun, although
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: finding it easier to to pick out the cakes this
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  Speaker 1: year than the previous season. I watched the first episode
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  Speaker 1: of Secret Invasion, which is the Nick Cage Disney Marvel show.
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  Speaker 2: It is not the new Nick Cage Marvel show.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're right, it's the Nick Fury. What the heck,
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  Speaker 1: get out of my head, Nick Cage, I'm solely morphing
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  Speaker 1: into him. No, that's not true. Yeah, so it's the
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  Speaker 1: Nick Fury Scrull Show. Uh. It was okay, there were
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  Speaker 1: some interesting points to it. It was a little slow,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the first episode. But hey, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we did have back when they first started filming, we
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  Speaker 1: had a listener over in the UK send us some
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  Speaker 1: pictures of some scenery that had been set up for
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  Speaker 1: the show. So it's kind of cool to get to
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  Speaker 1: start seeing that come into play and how they used it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really neat. I watched some more Arcane, which
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: is the League of Legends cartoon. I watched some New
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Girl because that's what we put on when we absolutely
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: don't want to brain anything. We've watched it before and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we can just have it on in lightly chuckle as
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: we completely zone out. There are probably healthier things to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: do when we're in that mindset, but it's hard to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: think of them when you're exhausted and don't know what
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you want to do. I know you don't like Zoey Deschanel, Jonathan,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: but she is not disillusioned. Disillusioned in this show, she
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is exceptionally peppy and quirky and it's a lot of fun.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I would probably I would probably dig that more because
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: it was just her very sort of subdued performances in
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Elf and Tin Man that really gave me a bad
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: first impression.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: She she is not subdued in this She is delightfully
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: quirky and charming. The first two episodes are a little
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: bit weaker, but like, the more you get into it,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it's just it's ridiculous. It's so much fun. Yeah, if
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you ever, if you ever, like I should give her
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: another chance. That's what I'd recommend is watching her in
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: New Girl. It's it's because I wasn't a huge fan
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of her either, but I love New Girl. And then
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I started because I'm watching through the entire catalog of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Dimension twenty shows on Dropout. Tiny Heist, which is the
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: macroy brothers and Dad and a couple of other people
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a campaign, and it is delightful. It is absolutely delightful
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and adorable. It's about all these tiny people who live
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: in a kid's backyard and like the incredibly like cedy
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: underworld that they live in. But it's it's charming, it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not super dark, so at least as far as I've
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: gotten so far.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Cool. Uh that sounds neat Well, you know, I I
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: bought the the subscription to drop Out TV, and I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: have not been taking advantage of that the way I should.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I need to really dive into stuff over on Dropout
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I love a lot of the people
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: who are on those programs. I find them very entertaining,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and I've enjoyed the stuff I've seen. It's just one
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of those things I keep forgetting about, like I need
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to have Maybe I need to start up a launch
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: page on my browser that just reminds me of all
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the services I'm subscribed to, so that occasionally I will
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: go and look at stuff that's on them, because they
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: just kind of sit there otherwise.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not that you would want another email, but they
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: do send out well, they do send out their weekly
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: schedule on both discord and in an email. So that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: how I keep up with with what's coming out each week.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Because we watched through a lot of it at a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: point in time where there wasn't a lot of new
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: media that we wanted. We couldn't figure out what we
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: wanted to watch, and so we just jumped into some
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: of their series, and now we've caught up with most
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of the catalog of the shows that we want to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: watch on the service, so I keep up with new
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: episodes via their emails.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's cool. Okay, Well, let's talk about some of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: news items that we have pulled together, most of which
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: are'll pull together. I got a couple of trailers thrown
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: in there, as she mentioned earlier, and has a lot
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of them are horror.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The first thing is not horror horrific at all.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: It's that Pokemon is coming out with a new sleep game.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Kind of like it's doing for sleep what Pokemon Go
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: did for getting out of your house and walking around
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you put your phone next to next
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to like on your nightstand next to you while you sleep,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and it monitors your your sleep kind of schedule and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: if you snore and things like that, and then it
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: feeds us snor relax and you get other Pokemon that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: sleep like you. I think it's really cute. I think
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that there is like there's something. I don't know how
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna work, because like when I track my sleep
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: with my fitbit, it's attached to me, it's it catches
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: things based off of like my movement and my heart
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: rate and my oxygen and things like that, even if
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's a little faulty. Kiss fitbits are not super super accurate.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But if I just put my phone next to me
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: on my nightstand and it records how I sleep or
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: monitors things like my snoring and my tossing and turning,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: how is it going to tell the difference between me
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and my partner?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Right? Well? And also that's creepy, right, Like your phone
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is essentially turned into like a surveillance device at that point,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and I would be a little concerned about privacy and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: security settings simply because I don't know that. It just
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: gets a little invasive. Like I can get it with
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: like a wearable, where as you say, the wearable is
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: measuring things like the amount of motion and your heart
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: rate and stuff like that. And if it's kept locally,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I could see that as being useful where you're just
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: monitoring it yourself. But when you're talking about something that's
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: like app connected and it's probably communicating with a cloud
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and all this kind of stuff, it starts to get
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: creepy to me. It starts to raise questions of like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: when is it when is it actively listening? When is
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: it not? You know what happens if you end up
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: what happens if your partner has to take a phone
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: call in the middle of the night and has a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: has a you know, a personal conversation with someone that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: not like like, there are elements where I'm just like,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how I feel about this all in
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the name of you know, supposedly quantifying and then gamifying sleep.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I like the idea of encouraging people to
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: get more sleep and maybe get off of their phone,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: even though they have to get on their phone more
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: after that sleep and before that sleep. And I understand
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: like the concern that you might be recorded talking about
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: where you hid the bodies while you're dreaming. But Polygon,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: which is the article that has the little bit of
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a trailer on it and talks about the game a
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: bit more that we're referencing, does say to check you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: know the terms of service and the privacy terms and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: things like that. But apparently within that you could get
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a jiglypuff singing at you. So maybe that makes it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: all better.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that that that solves all my concerns.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So let's let's instead segue from talking about a really creepy,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: scary game that is all about catching Pokemon in your
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: sleep instead talk about something wholesome like Mortal Kombat one.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just a wholesome Is it's a whole game?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as a whole game, yea, so it is wholesome.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: We have a trailer for Mortal Kombat one with some
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: new characters, Smoke and Rain.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Really these are these are returning characters to from the franchise,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: but they've been kind of absent for a while. So
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: this particular trailer is focusing on the lin Quay, which
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: are essentially the ninja characters from Mortal Kombat. So, you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: we've already seen trailers for Mortal Kombat One, which is
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a complete like reboot of the franchise. It has lots
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of the characters, you know, but they may have different
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: relationships with one another. So for example, in the lore
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of this new Mortal Kombat franchise, sub Zero and Scorpion
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: are our colleagues. They're not, they're not enemies.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I will say this trailer outside of the Gore
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: is very pretty, Like it struck me how very pretty.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It is, and inside the gore. You're inside someone else's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: body as you're watching an X ray of like a
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: buzzsaw all the way through a person.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It is a lot.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: It is a lot.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: There was a real there was a real jaw dropping
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: fatality in there.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Check it out. If you like Mortal Kombat, don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: check it out. If you hate video game gore and violence.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is making like, this is making like
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the violence and gore that was in the original Mortal
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Kombat game look extremely quaint in comparison. And if you
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: don't remember, the original Mortal Kombat was one of the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: video games that that that created the events that required
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the creation of the Entertainment Software Ratings Board the ESRB,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: where it's a an industry organization that gives ratings to
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: games like maturity ratings that was that was necessary because
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of the original Mortal Kombat. This game makes the violence
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: in the first Moral Kombat just look like it like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: it could have been in Kirby game.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's something for sure, something a little
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: bit happier. It's not a video game, but it's anime.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So a kissing cousin no more. One piece is not
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: a kissing cousin to Mortal Kombat. I don't know what
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, people, I'm so sorry. There was an
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: anime expo that happened this past week and a few
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: things got got shown during it. One of those was
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: kind of a little behind the scenes trailer for the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: upcoming Netflix live action one piece show, which is based
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: on a piraty sort of an anime, showing some of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the characters and talking about specifically how they have the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: original voice cast coming in to do the the language
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: translation dub and I think that's really cool.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this was neat. Like the little video, it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: very sweet as actors playing the characters in this newest
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: adaptation get to meet their counterparts who were the original
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: voice actors for the anime version of this story. As
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Ariel was saying, this story has been through several different
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: types of media, manga, anime, and now a new series.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's cute. It's a cute little kind of
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: promotional video, and it's cool to see them integrating actors who,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: like we don't. It's only fairly recent that we started
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to see voice actors get more recognition. You know, voice
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: actors have been a really important component in animation and
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: in video games and things like that, But for the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: longest time, you were unlikely to know the names of
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: any voice actors unless you just happened to be a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: super fan.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm super happy about this. It was also
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: delightful to see the actors for the TV show so
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: excited about the voice actors. You know, it shows that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: they have a real, if not love for the media,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: they're creating respect for it, and that's that's super appreciative.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this. I have some friends who
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: are saying that it's going to be a real hard
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: anime to make live action, and most cartoons turned to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: live action are disappointing. But I'm looking forward to it
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: partially because One Piece is one of those manga animes
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that appeals to me but is so vast already that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: it's hard to start.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get that, right. Whenever you come across
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: something that you haven't been exposed to in the past
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and you see how much there is, Like, that's how
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I felt with Doctor Who, right, Like, by the time
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I finally started watching Doctor Who, I just felt like, like, well,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: where do you even start? And is there a starting place?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: And am I going to feel lost if I us start,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you know, with the reboot series or what and h
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: turns out doesn't matter. I don't like Doctor Who.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's all right. You're allowed to not like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: some good things.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying Doctor
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Who's bad. Just I just don't like it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: That's totally fine. That's totally fine. There are plenty of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: things that you like that I do not.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about those at the end of this episode.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, one thing that I'm pretty sure neither you nor
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I were a huge fan of, because just I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we were a little bit on the older side for
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it is that childhood classic Barney.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, by the time Barney came out, I was definitely
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: too old for that. So it became more like a
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: punchline because people would just do the whole I Love
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you, you Love Me song, and it fun of it and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: it was you know, anyone my age just dismissed Barney
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: as being not just not just for children, but actually
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: childish like, like like it was talking down to kids
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: as opposed to talking to kids on their own level.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: That was probably an unfair assessment. I wouldn't know. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: never sat down to watch Barney. I don't have kids.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I had no reason to watch it. But you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I can't for sure say that Barney was subpar material. However,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: all that's to say that now we're going to get
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: a Barney movie that's designed for the adult millennial audience,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: not to say that it's like a rated R movie.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: It's not necessarily going to become some sort of horror
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: movie allah the Winnie the Pooh film that came out,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: but that, but that it's supposed to kind of takes
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: as its target audience the disaffected millennial that Ariel was
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: talking about earlier in their thirty seconds or less second.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's they're equating it to something like being
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: John Malkovich one, like Spike Jones, Charlie Kaufman kind of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a movie. It's interesting to me because again I was
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a little old for Barney too. It's it's definitely the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: younger spectrum of millennial that grew up with Barney as
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: an influence. I got to watch it a lot because
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of times in daycares, both because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: my mother worked at one and then because I worked
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: at one. It just I don't know. Again, it's it's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that the cynical look on it I don't think is
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: necessarily great unless it kind of I feel like this
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: this needs not just a oh, we were taught to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: love each other, but that's not how the world works
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: sort of a story. It's got to have a happy
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: ending on how to overcome the citizensm of the world,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: kind of like Barney is is the mascot version of Superman.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. Oh no, I would not normally
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: equate Barney with Superman, but I feel like a cynical
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: movie about Barney doesn't work unless it has some sort
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of a happy ending. Thankfully, Kluia says that it's got
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: to be a good script for them to make it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: The script is in development, but I.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Mean, I don't know if it needs to have a
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: happy ending for it to be a good story. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a good story there. Like
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: it's fair, like, what does what does a cynical movie
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: about Barney ultimately do? Right? Was the purpose of that?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue, well, it's there for just entertainment,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but if so, how is it entertaining just watching a
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: movie that essentially tells you the world stinks, and does
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it through the lens of people who are somehow connected
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to the character of Barney, Like what good does that do?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: What is that? How is that art? How is that entertainment? Like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Like again, I'm also out
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of touch. So I fully admit that I'm of an
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: age where like I'll watch something and I'll go, well,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: this wasn't for me, which is fine, right, It's for
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: someone else, but that's why it's not resonating with me
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: at all. And I like, but I also have this
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: thing in general, Ariel, I am not a big fan
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of taking stuff that was crafted for children and then
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: aging it up for adults. In general, I find it
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a little unsettling. I have a discussion about this with
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: friends of mine who are in the burlesque community, and
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I think burlesque is a great form of
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: entertainment for the appropriately aged. It can be lots of fun,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It can be funny and sexy and all that kind
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of stuff. But I really get squick doubt by burlesque
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: shows that are themed around something that was originally intended
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: for children. For example, like these are all Saturday Morning
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: cartoon characters, Like I find that unsettling, and and that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: kind of extends also to this sort of cynical look
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: at the world, like I would almost prefer an original
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: character who's obviously inspired by these uh, these these characters
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: who were created for children, because otherwise it feels like
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you're corrupting something that was never like it didn't have
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a malicious intent from the beginning, so why are you
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: corrupting it? And I know that also comes across the
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: sort of prudish stuff. And I'm not arguing that my
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: view is the best view or the right view. It's
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: just what I feel, you know what.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I But I think I agree with you on all
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of those things, both on the fact that, like, there
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: have been some instances and I know that there have
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: been because I've enjoyed some children's stuff that has been
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: aged up, but I can't think of them offhand. But
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: for the most part, yeah, a lot of like aging
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: up of kids stuff also kind of creeps me out.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: And then I also agree, like what is the point
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of the Barney movie. I hadn't thought about that, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: as an actor, that kind of upsets me that I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: didn't look at that first. You know, Yeah, I don't
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: know if this is necessary. It won't be for me.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty certain.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I And maybe I'll feel differently when it gets
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: further along, maybe like I'll see something and say, oh,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: this is actually saying something I didn't anticipate, and I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: really am intrigued. But the just from my own biases,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and again I admit this is a bias I have.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: It's got a very tough hill to climb.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we both kind of did change our
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: tune on the Barbie movie, although we haven't watched it yet.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I just again, I think like if this
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: were a movie where it was it was a sort
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: of a satire of Barney but not actually Barney, it
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: might be easier for me to take. It's the fact
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: that it's tapping into that ip while also trying to
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: have this cynical twist to it that bothers me. I
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: guess it's why, like I really like Avenue Q, and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it's because Avenue Q is playing off stuff like Sesame
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Street and the Muppets, but it's not actually taking those
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: characters who were you know, different levels of pure in
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: my imagination, and then twisting them to tell a twisted story.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: It's creating original characters who are clearly inspired by those things.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. But speaking of the Barbie movie
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and kind of adding aging up children stuff, I wonder
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: if to Gerwig is going to do that with the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Chronicles of Narnia movies that she's making for Netflix.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I hope not. Yeah, no, I don't imagine. I mean,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: like C. S. Lewis worked in so much sort of
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Christian theology into his works that it would seem very
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: odd to take that approach with the Narnia stories. Yeah,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: we know that Greta Gerwig is writing and directing two
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: movies for Netflix because the previous studio that had the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: film rights to the Narnia stories lost them a few
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: years ago, right, So like The Lion, the Witch and
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the Wardrobe and the other movies that came out those.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: All Voyage of the Dawn Treedder.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those were made by the other studio, but then
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: they lost the rights to the stories. After a while,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Netflix picked them up, swooped in and grabbed them as
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: fast as it could. And now Greta Gerwig is going
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: to be making two movies. We don't know which stories
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: she's going to be adapting, are we going to get
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: another take on the Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: There are also arguments within the fandom of C. S.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Lewis about what order you should read the books because
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they're not all chronological.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was about to say that, so, you know,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: the same way that people say you could watch Marvel
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: movies chronologically or in release order, or the same for
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Star Wars. It's similar for Chronicles of Narnia. Exception to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the fact that most of the books have not actually
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: been made into movies. We had like an old BBC
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: version of some live action movies, but I don't think
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: they did all of the books. We had like a
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: cartoon mini series, and then we had this latest series
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: that was Prince Caspian, the Line of the Witch and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the Wardrobe, and The Voyage of the Dawn Tredder. Not
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: in that order, but I believe in book release order.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: So it is interesting because if they don't do it
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: in book release order, you're going to get a different
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: understanding of characters at a different time for like I guess,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: newer audiences. It baffles in my mind that there might
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: be people who are not familiar with these books because
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they are so influential in my growing up. But if
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: they if they do a live action Prince Sorry Silver Chair,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: which I think the last time a live action of
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: that was done was with the BBC, then they could
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: bring Tom Baker back as puddle Glom because he's also
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who. But he is ninety now, but I think
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: he could totally do it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's hold off on the fan casting until
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we hear more about which stories he's going to actually adapt.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some are definitely harder to do than others, which
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is why I'm I'm assuming why we haven't gotten more
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: live action adaptations. Yeah, because like Disney stuff, you can
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: only live action adapt like parts of the story, there's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of CDI or Muppets or whatever involved.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to the point where I would I would quibble
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: with Disney about their definition of live action. Most of
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the time, it doesn't really mean live action. It just
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: means not hand drawn animation.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I heard a rumor, and I hope that it was
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: just a rumor, impostulation and fake, that Disney was considering
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: doing a live action version of their Robin Hood And
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that's not possible. It's not possible.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: All I can all I can imagine is like a
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: a seventy five minute long video of two foxes struggling
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: to get out of costume pieces that have been put
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: on them and then wrestling with each other. And that's it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: That's the whole napping and that's the whole movie.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love that. Yeah, Like,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: because what either you fully animate it because they're all
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: animals and it doesn't work like the Lion King, or
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you make them people, in which case it's just Robin Hood.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: We've done that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: We've been there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, many many times. Robinhood has been made so many times.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: So I hope this was just a made up rumor
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and not an actual rumor.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: They should just go and remake ivan Hoe. Just remake
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: ivan Hoe. We've had enough Robin Hood's remake.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Irony, sure, sure, sure, Speaking of plenty of remakes, recently,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: we've had plenty of remakes of the Suicide Squad, But
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we aren't getting another.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah up there, Yeah, we're getting another animated version of
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the Suicide Squad, and really an anime style Suicide Squad,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and it is being produced overseas, and in fact, I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: don't even know, like I mean I'm assuming we'll get
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the English language version over here eventually, but the style
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: is very much in the anime style. Also, it seems
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: like it's drawing on the less popular version of the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: live action Suicide Squad because there's a sequence of the
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Joker driving a car and laughing, and it just makes
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: me think of was it Leto who played? Who was
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: it that played? Yeah? Okay, his his version of the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Joker in the the Not Good Suicide Squad movie.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Although he doesn't look the same, he looks different.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: His crazy Joker mouth is like drawn on with sharp teeth,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: which is kind of cool.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: He looks he looks a bit more like he's like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: he's like an edgier version of the classic animated Joker
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: character that you're familiar with.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's done by the people who did
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Attack on Titan, which is pretty cool. That was a
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: fun anime, the parts of it that I watched fun
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: fun for certain definitions, pretty dark. Kataku says that it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a This version of the Joker is a canonical post
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: joke Joe King Joaquin Joaquin Phoenix. Anytime I read his name,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I can no longer pronounce it. But but yeah, it
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: looks interesting. It is going to be different in the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: fact that it looks like, ah, it looks like the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Suicide Squad is going to a different planet or a
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: different reality. Uh. With that that's more fantastical, so like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: with dragons and things like that, it's called Suicide Squad.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Uh is a kai and isekai actually means other world,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: so that could be fun. It could be Suicide Squad
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: with in dungeons and dragons.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: It was somewhat weird that it doesn't really show members
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of the Suicide Squad apart from Harley and then uh
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: what surface the Amanda wall Amanda Waller and because Joker
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: was never really part of Suicide Squad. But Amanda, Amanda
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Waller and and Harley Quinn those are like the only
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: two characters in the trailer that you would immediately identify
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: as being Suicide Squad characters. Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I suspect either there will be more, but they just
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: put the ones in that people would recognize, like most off,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: or that they're going to create another world version of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the Suicide Squad with the fantastical people they meet in
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: their fantastical land full of dragons and gotcha hog.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Folk man, Now you're talking about my family reunion. Okay, hey,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: moving on, I said, my family reunion. We've got a
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: trailer also for the film Miraculous, Lady bug and Cat Noir.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Lady Bugging or Miraculous is a series. It's actually a
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: series from France. It's run for I think like five
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: seasons something like that, and there have been English translation
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: versions that have played on a couple of different I
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: think it might be on Disney at this point. I
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: have never watched it. I was not familiar with it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: When I saw this trailer, I thought it was a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: brand new thing, and only through research that I realized,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: oh no, this has been around for a while, but
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: the film looks like it. It's more or less an
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: origin story. So if you're like me and you're not
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: familiar with the property, this looks like this could be
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: an entry point for you, as opposed to Oh, remember
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: when we talked about the Teen Wolf movie where I said,
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I never watched the Teen Wolf series, so I had
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: no idea what was going on in that trailer. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: didn't know who any of the characters were, why they
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: were reacting to each other the way they were. This
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: is like the opposite. This is like an Origin story film,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and it looks really cute.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It does. I mean, I was familiar with the children's show.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I hadn't watched a lot of it, but I've seen,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you know, enough of it because I've worked with children
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for so long and I have so many friends with
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: children that I was really surprised you added it to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: our list. But then I watched the trailer and yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it look really cute. It kind of looks like a
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: reverse Spider Man and that girl Cat who's a burglar
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: who they're trying to give her own movie to. Oh
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: uh uh shaw, Can I love it?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: No, it's it does start with an S, though, doesn't
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: it silver. I'll have to get back to you.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anyhow, it looks like a reverse of that. But
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the heroes are kind of
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: bugger animal themed. The villain is Hawk Moth, so it's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: totally spoof on you know, superheroes and superpowers. The only
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: thing about the trailer that I think is a little
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: unfortunate is that they make a mime the villain, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: mime's already get the short end of the rope so often.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Hawk Moth is also the father of
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Cat noir. I think, so it is interesting to uh,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: to kind of see this sort of take on superheroes.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, like it looked it looked entertaining and
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: cute enough, like like fun. It looked like that fun
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: level of cute. Not I'm not being dismissive when I
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: say cute. That it has me interested. So I think
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of Silver Sable. But that's not who
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: you were you were talking about. I think you might
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: have been talking about like black Cat or something.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Felicia Hardy, black Cat, Felicia Hardy. But you know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: it looks cute. I'm I'm glad I have nieces and nephews,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: so I have an excuse to watch it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll watch it without any excuse because it
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: just looks like again, it looks like it's an adventurous
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: kind of fun. It made me. It gave me sort
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of big hero six vibes. Yeah, not you know, from
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: that same level of like adventure kind of feel to it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks delightful. Something else that I think looks delightful.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: It's been a bit of a question mark on my
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: friends group's radar, you know, not that Jonathan is my
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: friend but you know I have different groups of friends.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: She doesn't talk to me.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: The trailer for the Corner Office.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: So I got bad news for you, Ariel. Well, first
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: of all, we should explain what this trailer is. So
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: John Hamm is playing a character in this movie where
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: he has joined a company, and he's joined an office
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: in this company and is working at this office. He
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: is not fully at home in this office. He has
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of strong opinions, and he feels like he's
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: not truly appreciated and that he can't really work where
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: effectively in the office environment. And then he comes across
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a ginormous, luxurious office space that no one else seem
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: to realize is there and starts to use that. And
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: meanwhile his coworkers all think that he's a weirdo and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: is shirking his work and is being unfairly rewarded for
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: his work. And so it's kind of the surreal satire
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: on corporate life. But the bad news I have for you,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Ariel is that this this movie came out last year,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: but it came out last year on the on the
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: film festival circuit. It did not hit like wide distribution
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: and currently has a sixteen percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, everybody's picking up on the fact that the
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: trailer just got released like this past week for public
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: release and a new trailer, So I think it's going to.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Get No, it's getting wide distribution now. It's just it's
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: taken a year from the festival circuit, which is not unusual, right, Like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: there are independent films who will make a movie, they'll
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: take it, they'll submit it for a festival, it'll get
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: aired at the festival, and then a distribution company will
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: pick up the film and then distribute it later on.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: So there are times where you might see a movie
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: a year before it comes out to everybody else because
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: you happen to be at a film festival. I've had
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: that happen once or twice where I saw a movie
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in early release before it hit wide release, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: like a year later. So that's not unusual. The problem is,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and and granted it was, it's there's not like there's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: been a ton of critics who have seen this. I
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: think it was maybe like six, but out of the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: sixth only one, only one positive one, And like these
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: are and the reviewers who did see it include people
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: who write for you know, recognizable journals, not just not
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: just like you know, Jim Bob's movie review and Hoop
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to Do site. The Hollywood Reporter review is really bad.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that being said, it's seven point eight on IMDb
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: out of ten, and that has forty five reviews. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and oftentimes critical review and audience review are different on
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes. So I will be interested to see if
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that rating changes or drops worse as more people watch it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It is is based off a novel or and that
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: novel comes from Sweden, where everything is cheerful, h you get,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and it's very gram actually a very grim book. But
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: it's called there. It's called The Room. But for understandable reasons,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: they did not call the movie adaptation The Room the Room.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably wise. Now I'm really curious whether The
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Room has higher ratings on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I think I think the problem is that the reviewers
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: that I read say the movie essentially makes it it's
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: point fairly early on. The character the protagonist is not
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: particularly likable because he has sort of a superiority complex
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: compared to the other people around him. Right, He just
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: thinks of himself as being better than people around him,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: which means it's very hard to empathize with because he's
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: kind of a jerk. And then the whole premise is
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: stretched out beyond what the film can support. So a
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: lot of the reviews I was reading were saying, this
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: would have made an excellent short film, but it doesn't.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Like the length of the movie is to its detriment.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that the same thing about Tommy
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Wizzou's The Room, which is twenty five percent so technically
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: higher right now on Rotten Tomatoes, higher rated, but I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: think a lot more people have seen that, so well,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: we'll see how that plays out. Sometimes I like things
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that nobody else likes, look at Dylan Dog, Dead of
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Night and Van Helsing, So I might still like it.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know, I was definitely intrigued by
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: it because it did look kind of otherworldly in the
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: sense of, you know, here's this very mundane setting and
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: there's this one little quirky element to it, which again
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: kind of brings us back to you mentioned being John
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Malkovich earlier. It makes me think of that, right, like, yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: this very mundane world and then this very strange, unusual
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: element is introduced, and how does that end up you know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: creating the story, and I don't know. Maybe it turns
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: out the reviewers that have seen it so far are
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: a bunch of grouchy pants mcgeeese, and that maybe once
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: it does hit wider distribution, we'll see other perspectives come in.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: So here's hoping. I never want anything to come out
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: and be bad. But what is interesting to me is
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: that some of the themes of Corner Office also find
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: their way into the next movie that's on our lineup.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, which is a technically a horror movie, but one
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: that I really enjoyed the trailer for. It's called zomb
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: one hundred. And thank you for adding it, Jonathan, because
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: this one completely missed my my attention.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, zomb one hundred Bucket List of the Dead. So
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: in this one, this is a movie again from our
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: friends in Asia. So this is this is a film
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that's going to involve either you reading some subtitles or
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: getting a dub version of it. But unless you you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: unless you're fluent. But the the premise is that the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: protagonist is just completely disillusioned with work, absolutely dreads having
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: to go into the office. He finds it like soul
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: sucking to have to go to the office, and so
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: when a zombie outbreak happens, one of his early reactions
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: after the initial I need to get away from being
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: eaten by zombies, is I don't have to go to work.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: This is amazing.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then he comes to the realization that
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna either die or get turned into a
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: zombie because you're living in the zombie apocalypse, which, you know,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: to be fair, zombies are an allegory for death right,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it comes for us all. So he makes his bucket
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: list of things to do and then meets other people
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: who think that's awesome, and yeah, they make the best
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: of their situation, which I think, you know, if you
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: ask what's the point of a movie to make the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: best of your situation and have fun and find the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: bright side of things. I think it's a really fun
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: story and a fun way to tell that story.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: This definitely looks like a horror comedy kind of thing,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: and I found it really an entertaining trailer, So I'm
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: hopeful that the whole movie holds up of that because
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I like horror comedies. I like a good horror comedy,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: and you know, the zombie genre definitely has its share
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: of horror comedies that I think the Jewel in the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Crown is shown of the dead, but there are lots
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: of other ones too.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Zombie Land is another very popular one. I
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: think I prefer zombies to the next horror movie. But
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I have to admit that talking about this one is
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: completely my fault, and I don't know if most people
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: would call it a horror. It's a movie called Apocalypse
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Clown about three washed up failed clowns who try to
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  Speaker 1: realize their dreams in like an anarchic apocalyptic Ireland.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have friends who are terrified of clowns. For them them,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: this would be a complete horror. For me, it's kind
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: of horrific. How gross some of the clowns are.
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  Speaker 2: No, they look kind of like they look kind of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: grungy and dirty, But other than that, I don't think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: they look particularly gross. But yeah, I mean it's this
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: is very Irish humor, right, Like you're getting that very
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: dry kind of the dry wit that we associate with
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: places like Ireland and England and that sort of thing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: where it's this dead pan approach to comedy and it's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: the combination of the absurd and the deadpan that end
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: up creating the humor. But yeah, yeah, it's these three
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: clowns where you know something has happened in Ireland that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: is essentially knocked all technology off for a while. I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: love the scenes of like the big Green Verdant rolling
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: hills with fires everywhere, and I'm like, what exactly is
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: on fire? I've been to Ireland. There's not that much
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: to set on fire.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Sheep, sheep or sheep on fire?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, sheep could be on fire. There are
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of sheep in Ireland, but you would expect
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: those fires to be moving a whole lot more than
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Fish fish and chip carts.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: No, it's not not in countryside.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I've never been to the UK.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Ireland is.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I've never been to Ireland or Scotland or England or Wales.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: How's that Northern Ireland is in the UK, but Ireland
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: is not. Okay, I don't know this one. This one
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: hit me the way a lot of of of Irish
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: and British comedies do, which is that it's got that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: sense of humor that sometimes works for American audiences but
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: often doesn't because you know, they take they also can
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: take a very cynical look at stuff, but they it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: behind this sort of dead pan approach to comedy, so
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it becomes something that is not commonly encountered in American entertainment.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking also of there's an Australian horror movie. I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: think it's Australian. It's Australian, not New Zealand. Right. If
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: it's New Zealand, my apologies because I don't mean to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: to to mix up the two. But it's house Bound.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's what's called anyway. It's a great, great
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: horror comedy film, but it has that same sort of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: very cynical, deadpan kind of approach. And these these films,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: like films of that nature, they're not afraid of making
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: their protagonists unlikable or hard to like. And again that's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: very different from what you typically see in a lot
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: of American entertainment, not all of it, but a lot
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: So, first of all, Housebound is New Zealand. You were
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: you were correct to correct yourself. Secondly, when I said gross,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I meant, like unlikable. The clowns
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: are kind of groedy. Gross humor, I think is more
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: what I meant, not visually upsetting okay, yeah, but but
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: also that happens sometimes again in comedies. But yeah, if
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: you like Irish comedy sensibilities to check out the trailer,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: this might be for you.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's Apocalypse Clown. And then finally we've got one
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: final horror comedy to talk about.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: M No, it's just a horror. It's just a horror.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: It's the none to none harder.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not really none harder, but that's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: what I wrote.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind, Jonathan.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: That is funnier set out loud than it was when
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I wrote it.
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  Speaker 1: Down, well harder. First of all, you're welcome a second all,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: that's what it's called in my mind. Now, you can't
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: convince me otherwise.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love the idea of looking at this
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: demonic non and saying there's none harder than her.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is obviously a sequel or a prequel.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I couldn't quite tell. I haven't watched the first Nun, Jonathan,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: it's a sequel, Okay, yes, because there's a child who
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: encountered the nun, and now that the child is an adult,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: she's encountering the nun again. My brain goes, child, that's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: a prequel, but no, it's it's it's more nonsense in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: not the musical way.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did watch the original, the first Nun film.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: So this is part of the Conjuring universe. So all
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: of those movies, you know, the Conjuring films, and then
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Annabelle is an offshoot of those, and so is the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Nun and they had they introduced the None character in
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: one of the other movies. I think it was one
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: of the Annabelle movies if if I'm not mistaken, maybe
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: it was the Conjuring one. I don't know, but I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: will say this, I didn't like the original Nun film.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of the Conjuring Universe. I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: think the first film is okay, but I don't. I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: also find it irritating because it is based off of
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: actual people who, in my mind, were really just scam
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: artists as opposed to demonologists or whatever they you know,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: these are the same people who perpetuated the scam about
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the Amityville House, like The Amityville Horror is
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: also a film that's based off the work of these people.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: And I don't really like giving them like more credit.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Is I feel like they I mean, they purposefully perpetuated
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: a lie for years and years and years. So I'm
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: not a big fan of that in general. But if
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: you can divorce yourself from that, which is hard for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: me to do, but if I can divorce myself from that,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I can appreciate at least the first Conjuring film for
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the craft and for the approach to creating a creepy
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: scary movie. The Nun I felt lacked a lot of
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: the artistry the craft of creating something like that, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: just leaned harder on things like jump scares, and so
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: it didn't work for me as much. The trailer for
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: this one. It's hard for me to say one way
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: or the other. There was one sequence in this that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: I just thought was ridiculous that I was like, that's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: not scary, that's just dumb. But there were other elements
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: where I was like, this secrets. I don't know. Was
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: it the sequence of all the magazines? Yes, you like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: that part?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I thought that was cool. I thought it was unrealistic.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: So there's a scene in I think a subway station
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: or something. It's a new stand, a new stand, it's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: dark anyhow, and all of all of these magazines start
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: flipping through and then they end up flipping to pages
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: that create a collage of an impressionist version of the nun,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: and then she appears. I thought, artistically, that was a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: cool idea. It was the part one part of the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: trailer that I thought was neat, because the rest of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: it was just scary.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: And jump scares see. To me, that part irritated me
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, well, that's just a great coincidence that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: the perfect images exist in all of those magazines to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: allow for that collage to happen, and.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: That it wasn't a coincidence.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Oh you mean you mean like before she before she
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: got there, the gun is sitting there like for like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: forty five minutes, going crap, crap, crap, crap, rearranging all
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: the magazines so that they can make this effect just perfectly. Yes,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: when she should Yes, now see, I'll watch that movie.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: I'll watch the movie where the creepy nun is like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: like like looking at her watch and going, oh, no, crap,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: it's got like three minutes. I gotta get this. And
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: it's like swapping swapping one copy of a magazine for
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: a different magazine so that she can get it. Just right.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: In my mind, it's because I don't know much about
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the Conjuring or the nun universe either. It was all
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: of these magazines were inspired to put the right pages
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in the right places that would be on the right
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: part of the I don't know how much preemptive cognizance
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the Nun has, but if she did, you know, Domino
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: set up the dominoes to fall into the right place
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: on omnissions, maybe knowing what's going to happen when, or
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: the Nun altered the images on each page to look
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: like her so that she could come out of them.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I mean that that would be fine, except then you
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: don't have to keep turning the pages over and over
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: and over again. Right, you could just have them all open.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: If you can change what the images are, you just
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: have them all open at the same time, and boom,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: you're done.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe she could only alter pages that had.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Something on them, Yeah, like an ad for Taco Bell
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: and it turns out it's all just placement. Yes, I mean,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I will I will say. You said you aren't familiar
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: with the Nun's powers. I think I think even if
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: you had watched the movie, you would still have to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: say that because I feel like I feel like the characters,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: like the malevolent characters in the Conjuring Universe, have kind
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: of the equivalent of plot armor. They have the ability
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: that is necessary for them to have in order for
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: the story to keep going. So like it's impossible for
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: you to sit down and list what they can and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: can't do, because it's completely situational, depending upon what the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: plot needs. And that's another thing that irritates me is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: that there are no there are no recognizable rules of
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: the universe. And I like I like fictional universes where
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: they have understandable rules, even if those are rules that
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: are revealed to you as you go through the story.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: I like that a lot more than stories where there
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: are no discernible rules and so therefore nothing really matters
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: or makes sense. I that's again my own personal perspective
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: and my own personal likes and dislikes. I can't get
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: into movies where there's not like a clear set of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: rules in place.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Well, because if you don't have a clear set of rules,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: then you don't have you don't have I'm trying to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: think of the word and anticipatable stakes, right, you can't
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and you can't realistically invest in something or worry about something,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: especially in a horror universe, if there aren't rules, because
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: if it's just I say, this happens because I rolled
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: the dice or whatever, you know in the writer's room, Yeah,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: there's there's You can't follow it, so you can't anticipate it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: You can't can't dread it because yeah, you can't build
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: up there.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, And like, as an example of a movie
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: where I feel like they got it mostly right, I'll
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: say The Ring, because in The Ring, the rules are
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: established pretty early on, and you then eventually, if you've
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: watched The Ring, you know that a character realizes very
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: late in to the story that one of her assumptions
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: about the rules is wrong, that she did the wrong thing.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: That she thought she was doing the right thing, but
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: turns out that was the wrong choice because she didn't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: have a She and the audience didn't have a full
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: understanding of the rules. But the point is the filmmakers
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: knew what the rules were, right and they had established them.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: It's just that we didn't get to discover that till
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: late in the story. And it still is very satisfying
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: because you get the feeling that, yes, there are rules,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: we just didn't know what they all were until it
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: got to be a bit too late.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Yep, everything and you said one hundred percent accurate?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Were you unable to hear it?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: No? I never watched The Ring.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Oh it is not for you, Ariel. You have a
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: very low threshold or scary. The Ring is The Ring
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: and Ring Goo, the film that it's based off of,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: are two of my favorite horror movies of the last
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: several decades, and I don't you know, you wouldn't get
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: any enjoyment out of them, so I would never make
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: you watch them, Ariel. But I just feel like they
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: they follow that philosophy really well, in the idea of
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: establishing rules for your universe and then abiding by those rules.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: It gets a little more squishy as you go to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: sequels and stuff, but if you're looking at just the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: first film in the series, I think they really are
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: good examples of what I'm talking about.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: So as a sequel to The Ring and Ringo Rango,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: the story about a can million who lives in the West.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. It's all about Johnny Depp, which is yep, terrifying.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, uh, anyhow, that's interesting. It makes me wish
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: that I could watch the Ring, but I trust your
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: judgment in telling me that I ought not to. If
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: if anyone listening to the show wants to weigh in
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: on the Ring or Ring Goo or anything we've talked about,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: or even just be like Ariel, get your thoughts together,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: get your head out of the clouds, and give us
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: some better sentences when you talk. You can contact us, Jonathan,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: how should they do that?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Well, if you want to contact me, you're going to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: need to go outside and look under some nearby bushes.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: You're going to find an old, faded VHS tape there.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: It's going to like the label's completely faded. You can't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: even read what's on the label anymore. And you're gonna
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: need to track down a VCR someplace and hope that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: up to a television and put that VHS tape in
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: and push play. When you push play, you're gonna see
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: a sequence of odd scenes that don't seem to have
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: any real connective tissue between them. They're gonna be a
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: little unsettling, and at the very end of that sequence,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: when the screen turns to static, which is going to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: be very confusing, because no one knows what static looks
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: like anymore. Because TVs don't do that anymore. Your phone's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: gonna ring, and then you're gonna go over and answer
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the phone. And when you answer the phone, you're gonna
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: hear a voice say, it's Nicholas Cage. I'm playing Nick
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Fury in Secret Invasion. You need to watch it. So
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: then you got to go over to Disney Plus and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: you gotta start up Secret Invasion and for you and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: you alone, it's Nick Cage playing Nick Fury. And at
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: the end of it at as a stinger after the credits,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see me pop up and I'm gonna say, hey,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: what's a question.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: That's when you can ask uh yeah, yeah. And if
• 1:14:54
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• 1:14:59
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• 1:15:04
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• 1:15:11
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• 1:15:20
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• 1:15:24
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• 1:15:26
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• 1:15:31
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• 1:15:34
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• 1:15:36
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• 1:15:39
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• 1:15:42
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