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- 0:00Orcas wearing salmon hats. Is it a fashion statement or is
- 0:03it a sign of good things to come in the
- 0:06future? We're going to be talking about a recent picture that
- 0:09was taken of an orca in an area where there were plenty of salmon
- 0:13that wore the salmon as a hat. That's
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- 1:35Let's talk about salmon hats, folks. Is it a fashion statement
- 1:38by Orcas? Is it being brought back like it was in the
- 1:421980s? Or is it just a sign that, hey, you know what? I'm
- 1:45going to play with my food a little bit by these orcas. And a sign that we
- 1:49need to learn a lot more about these orcas. You're probably knowing
- 1:52where I'm going with this, but we're going to talk about it. Animals
- 1:56are really interesting things. I feel as though sometimes when we learn
- 1:59about animals, we don't see the characters of these animals.
- 2:02We don't see that every whale has its own character.
- 2:07every shark has its own character and even fish if you
- 2:10study them enough and you look at them and you observe them enough you
- 2:14will see individual fish displaying different types
- 2:17of behaviors and different types of characters it's a very interesting field of
- 2:20science but especially with marine mammals where behaviors are
- 2:24observed because these marine mammals these whales these
- 2:27dolphins orcas minke whales humpback whales they're
- 2:31very interesting, they're extremely intelligent, they're emotionally intelligent, and
- 2:35we get to see a lot of different behaviors from them as we
- 2:38observe them, whether we use drone footage, whether we do it through
- 2:42whale watching, whether we do it through underwater camera work, there's
- 2:45a lot of different ways now, especially with technology, that we can actually see
- 2:49these marine mammals just kind of have these types of, display
- 2:53these type of characteristics. Now sometimes it could just be you know, going
- 2:56up against a rock and just scratching itself. Sometimes it's the way they interact with
- 3:00other members of their pod. Sometimes it's the way they interact
- 3:03with people around them and boats and how curious they are. Some
- 3:07are more curious, some are a little shyer. You know, you get to see these
- 3:10different displays. But when it comes to orcas and it comes
- 3:14to feeding, that's where it becomes interesting. They've
- 3:17had a lot of known behaviors that we're gonna talk about in just
- 3:20a sec, but I wanted to kind of talk a little bit about behaviors
- 3:24and characteristics in animals anyway, especially when it comes to
- 3:28animals living in around humans. I had the opportunity, the
- 3:31wonderful pleasure of being the Toronto Zoo podcast host for
- 3:35about two years. And during my time, I was
- 3:39allowed to visit the zoo. I got the behind the scenes couture
- 3:43and I was able to talk to the zookeepers about
- 3:47the animals that they look after each and every day. Amazing people,
- 3:51great scientists, definitely care about the
- 3:54animals at the Toronto Zoo. And I really got to
- 3:58know a lot of the gorilla zookeepers. And
- 4:02that was really interesting because of the different types
- 4:06of characters that they had, not only as zookeepers, but also
- 4:10from the gorillas themselves. Like for instance, unfortunately he just passed,
- 4:14but Charles was the troop leader for the gorillas. Silverback
- 4:17gorilla, massive animal, really cool
- 4:21looking. I got to see him fairly up close, obviously behind
- 4:24the screen, but I got to see him fairly up close. Very intimidating looking. This
- 4:29is an animal that could tear things apart very,
- 4:32very easily. He's that strong, right? These gorillas are so strong. Was
- 4:35afraid of frogs, people. He was afraid of frogs.
- 4:39In fact, there are a number of instances where the gorilla would
- 4:42go out, like the troop would go out, and they would come out from their
- 4:46indoor, I guess, indoor habitat, and
- 4:49they would go to their outdoor habitat, and Charles would stop the
- 4:52rest of the troop from going outside and make them
- 4:56go back in because there was something out there that he didn't
- 4:59like and so they would allow the gorillas to go inside they
- 5:02close everything off and they started looking around to see what
- 5:06did Charles not want everybody else to go in and see they
- 5:09noticed that there was a little tree frog on one of the trees so
- 5:13they removed that tree frog just to see what would happen and
- 5:16now lo and behold they went the gorillas went out they looked
- 5:20around and Charles like yep we're all good we can go out it was the
- 5:23tree frog It was the tree frog. And later on, a couple of years ago,
- 5:27actually it was last year, I went to the zoo with
- 5:30my daughter Taya. She's very big into wildlife, wants to become a wildlife
- 5:34biologist herself. And we went to the zoo and
- 5:37it was really interesting because part of the outdoor exhibit, the gorillas were
- 5:41out, part of the outdoor exhibit had what looked like to
- 5:44be a reinforced part of the fence. And it was just this
- 5:47like square area as a reinforced part, but it looked like a part that they didn't,
- 5:51that the zookeepers didn't want the gorillas to go near. And what
- 5:54was on that little part to make sure that they didn't go near it? There
- 5:57was a picture of a frog. I swear to God, there was a picture of a frog and nobody really noticed
- 6:01it. And I told Taya the story about the frog and she's the one
- 6:04who pointed out, it's like, isn't that a picture of a frog? I'm like, yeah, I bet you they're using it
- 6:07because nobody will go near it. None of the gorillas will go near that
- 6:11area. because there is a frog. One more
- 6:14story about this troop. There was a gorilla named Josephine.
- 6:19Josephine was, unfortunately, she has since passed. They all were
- 6:22older gorillas. They were in their 40s and 50s. They're the ones
- 6:26that passed. But she was notorious for
- 6:29wearing people's hats. she would wear different people's hats
- 6:33so not take the people take the hats off people she was taking notice of
- 6:36what people were wearing and so they give often
- 6:40give like things that are enrichment for the
- 6:43animals whether it be apple tree branches or whether it
- 6:46be food or whether it be something that they can handle she
- 6:50was interested in people's hats and so what they would do is they would give
- 6:53her different types of hats and she would actually put the hats on and she would
- 6:56look at it in the glass so it was like a mirror they gave her a mirror eventually that
- 7:00she could look into and she would put a hat on and she would see what
- 7:03she looked like because she saw all the people who were looking at her to come to
- 7:06visit and she would see the hats and she was curious and she would want to try
- 7:10on the hats. This is what I'm talking about when we talk about marine mammals, or
- 7:13mammals in general in this case, about having different characters. Very
- 7:17interesting characters, very human-like characters when it comes to gorillas, but
- 7:21also when you talk about marine mammals, they have different types of
- 7:24characters. We know some animals are more aggressive, some animals
- 7:28are more passive, some are a little bit more adventurous, while
- 7:32some are a little bit more shy, a little introverted. But regardless, they
- 7:35all have their own character. They all have their own characteristics that
- 7:39we can identify. And so that when scientists and observers
- 7:43and conservationists go up to see and observe these animals, they can pick them
- 7:46out just based on their behavior and some of their markings as well. And
- 7:50I think that's what we're seeing in this case. There
- 7:53was a recent, photo that was taken of an orca
- 7:57that was in one of the inlets in Puget Sound and the
- 8:00animals wearing a Hat that
- 8:04was a salmon. It was a wearing a salmon on its head. So they call it the salmon
- 8:07hat It was part of J pod that was inland Puget Sound continuously
- 8:11for more than a month this fall Feasting on fish. Thanks
- 8:14to the chum salmon run. So that was a pretty big one and But so it
- 8:18was wearing it as a hat. This was a fad back in
- 8:22the 1980s. In 1987, there were several orcas
- 8:26from the southern resident orca population in different pods that
- 8:30were wearing salmon as a hat. And it kind of
- 8:33grew through different pods. And so as some were wearing it,
- 8:36then more of the orcas were wearing it, then more of the orcas, then a different pod,
- 8:40another orca was wearing it, and that kind of grew. they didn't know if
- 8:43this was more of a fashion trend where people are like let's just try it this kind
- 8:46of like a funny thing or whether it was just something that they celebrate
- 8:50whether it was something that it could have just been that there was a lot of food
- 8:54in the case of the recent orca that was photographed there
- 8:58was a chum run a salmon chum run and so maybe it was
- 9:01just celebrating that there were just so many fish that it could play with
- 9:04them. It actually had time. Its belly was full, and it
- 9:07actually had time to eat and had time to play with its food. We
- 9:11know that orcas do this. They wear mola molas, the
- 9:15sunfish, the massive, massive sunfish, as hats. Once
- 9:18they eat them, they wear it on their head. It's something
- 9:22that orcas do. And we don't know if it's just like a playful thing. They're bored
- 9:25or they want to celebrate. We don't know if it's a celebration of their kill.
- 9:29We don't know if it's something that says, hey, there's food out
- 9:32here to other orcas to say, hey, I'm wearing this because there's food out
- 9:36here. We don't exactly know why they do
- 9:39it. They think it's just a behavior that happens very much
- 9:43like animals are bored and they want to do something new.
- 9:46Very much of what's being hypothesized in the Strait
- 9:50of Gibraltar where these orcas are attacking or quote
- 9:53unquote attacking the sailboats. And so a lot of
- 9:56orca researchers are saying, hey, you know what? They're actually probably
- 10:00just trying to learn how to hunt, and they're using the sailboats. There's
- 10:03not a lot in the open ocean, so they're using the sailboats as
- 10:07a way to mimic what a kill would
- 10:10be or what a hunt would be like, and so they're trying that as a strategy. And
- 10:13so they try different things. they're sometimes they get bored,
- 10:17sometimes they're practicing for a hunt, sometimes they're just trying
- 10:20to have some fun and trying to do some weird things like wear salmon
- 10:24as a hat. That is what really is
- 10:27a conclusion. It really comes down to we don't know much about these
- 10:31animals. We know that when their population is up or
- 10:34their population is down because we can take those observations. We
- 10:38know if there's a healthy animal or not a healthy animal. We can do that
- 10:41through observations, through drones, through air sightings,
- 10:45through boat sightings. There's a lot of different ways to
- 10:49be able to tell about that health. Sometimes it's necropsies after
- 10:53they pass away. But there's not a lot that we can tell from a behavior standpoint
- 10:57in these very unique and interesting styles
- 11:02of what they're doing it it's fun it's
- 11:06actually you know fun to to see that these animals are
- 11:10displaying these little signs that they have some
- 11:13attitude you know they have maybe some style that's
- 11:16that's a style for them but they're it just goes to show that they
- 11:20are very interesting animals and they're animals that we
- 11:23need to study more and they are animals that
- 11:28have a unique aspect to them and
- 11:31and we just don't know why and we just don't know what brings it
- 11:34on we just don't know Why they do it. We just don't
- 11:38know what they're for. It's just it's a lot It's a lot of
- 11:41interesting things these orcas and and marine mammals in general
- 11:44And so what I would say in a lot of these things is these behaviors
- 11:48these unique behaviors need to be studied more and
- 11:51that that you know that comes from funding that comes from people connecting
- 11:55with the ocean people going out and whale watching and There are a lot of
- 11:58dedicated photographers and conservationists and people who
- 12:01are part of orca networks that are studying these animals, that are studying these
- 12:05behaviors, not just scientists, but they collaborate with
- 12:08a lot of scientists and it's just a really cool thing
- 12:11to do. There's the Orca Network, there's a lot of different orca researchers
- 12:16at UBC, University of British Columbia, at University of Victoria, University
- 12:20of Washington, Monterey Bay Aquarium does
- 12:24it as well. There are a lot of researchers that collaborate and discuss the
- 12:28southern resident orca population as well as the northern resident and the
- 12:31transient population and to see what these
- 12:34animals are up to and why they're so different and why they do
- 12:38such unique things. It's a fun thing to be able to talk about,
- 12:41not always talking about death and decrease in
- 12:45populations. And I want to share that with you on today's episode
- 12:48because I think it's really important. I think it's important that we
- 12:52talk about these things and be able to discover and
- 12:55have curiosity. One thing I realized when
- 12:59I talk about this on a podcast, on
- 13:03a video, whenever I talk to them, I just talk to my neighbors or I talk to
- 13:06my family members, I talk to my kids. Curiosity is
- 13:10what's really intriguing about science. It's why scientists
- 13:14do what they do. It's why conservationists do what they do. We ask questions. Why
- 13:18aren't orcas wearing salmons as hats? You know, what
- 13:21is the reason for it? How do I figure that out? These are the questions
- 13:25that we need to ask ourselves, and this is why I want to share it with you, because I want you
- 13:28to open up your curiosity. And as I end this episode, I'm
- 13:31going to say, what do you want to know more about in
- 13:35the ocean? What questions do you have about the oceans? Put your
- 13:38questions in the comments below, as well, what you thought about this
- 13:42episode. But I really want to know what you think about the ocean and
- 13:46the questions that you have that you want scientists to answer. Maybe
- 13:49it's already been answered. Maybe it hasn't. But if you have questions, I want you to put them
- 13:53in the comments below. You can put them on Spotify, on
- 13:56the comments in YouTube, or you can DM me at
- 14:00howtoprotecttheocean on Instagram. That's at howtoprotecttheocean. And
- 14:04that's it for today's episode. Until next time, you have been listening
- 14:08to the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Angelo. And have