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American Intelligence, Aircraft Hijacks, and Accountability · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek.com.
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Speaker 2: And Rich Valdez is with us, former Christie administration official.
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Speaker 3: You work for Chris Christie, you've been in politics, a
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Speaker 3: lot of public service stuff.
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Speaker 4: Rich Valdez, communist now with the Washington Times.
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Speaker 5: This is America.
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Speaker 6: Rich TV, you're on the air with the nation.
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Speaker 7: This is America.
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Speaker 5: With your host, Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 6: What's up, America?
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Speaker 4: I am Rich Valdez, Valdez with an S, at Rich
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Speaker 4: Valdez on all of the social media. Welcome to the
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Speaker 4: Friday night edition of the program. Earlier this week, I
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Speaker 4: filled in on the Mark Levin Show, and some of
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Speaker 4: what we were talking about was AI. We're going to
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Speaker 4: discuss AI with Bill Walton. He's going to be joining
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Speaker 4: me in a little bit. I want to start with
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Speaker 4: a big heartfelt thank you, right? A big thank you
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Speaker 4: to President Trump, el Trumpito de Naldes Magnus, the 45th
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Speaker 4: and 47th President of these United States, el Presidente Donald J. Trump,
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Speaker 4: because he extended a very gracious invitation for me to
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Speaker 4: join the White House for the Hispanic Heritage Reception. It's
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Speaker 4: always an honor to be invited to the White House,
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Speaker 4: especially now that El Trompito is battling, fighting back against
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Speaker 4: the fake news media with the same energy that my
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Speaker 4: abuela used to use, swinging a wooden spoon with arroz
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Speaker 4: con gandules. This is the reality of Washington, D.C., right?
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Speaker 4: It's a back and forth on every single topic, and
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Speaker 4: we're going to get into a bunch of those this evening.
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Speaker 4: And The invitation for me really underscored how many Hispanics
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Speaker 4: truly love this country. They support President Trump, his agenda,
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Speaker 4: and truly want to vote their values of faith, family, freedom,
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Speaker 4: hard work, and law and order.
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Speaker 6: So again, thank you, Mr. President.
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Speaker 4: I'm truly humbled and honored. I appreciate it. And, you know,
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Speaker 4: I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, moved to Hudson County,
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Speaker 4: New Jersey, right over the Hudson River. And I spent
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Speaker 4: my teenage years cutting hair. in different neighborhood barbershops until
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Speaker 4: I had my own barbershop. And I would listen to
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Speaker 4: the OGs, the old guys. They would discuss politics while
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Speaker 4: the radio would play like a hip-hop song or a
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Speaker 4: salsa song. And you would smell café con leche, right?
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Speaker 4: Mixed with that classic barbershop cologne, I'm going to call it,
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Speaker 4: like Clubman Talk, right? And occasionally, if you had any
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Speaker 4: really old clients, you would have that Vitalis hair pomade
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Speaker 4: or the hair tonic. Anyway, the point is I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to bring you back, right? And it was there that
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Speaker 4: I saw how people really, what they cared about. When
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Speaker 4: you hear people talk about kitchen table politics, it's really
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Speaker 4: the same as barbershop politics because it would always come up.
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Speaker 4: And you'd hear people, you know, they start with sports
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Speaker 4: and they talk about cars, but they always get into
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Speaker 4: some political discussion. And this is, I think, the crux
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Speaker 4: of America, at least the America I grew up in,
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Speaker 4: where people see things and, you know, It didn't matter
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Speaker 4: what party you were with. You wanted safe streets. You
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Speaker 4: wanted strong borders. You wanted secure elections. Now, people want
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Speaker 4: voter IDs, a lot of people. There's some other people
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Speaker 4: who don't want voter IDs because they want a chance
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Speaker 4: to raise their kids outside of the chaos. So what's
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Speaker 4: the problem with common sense voter ID?
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Speaker 6: That's not suppression. They're going to.
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Speaker 4: Argue that all day, but we've seen video after video
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Speaker 4: of man-on-the-street interviews of people going into the Bronx and
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Speaker 4: Harlem and other predominantly black neighborhoods saying, hey, look, somebody
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Speaker 4: is out there saying that you don't have an ID
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Speaker 4: or you don't know how to get one.
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Speaker 6: Is that true? And they get offended.
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Speaker 4: So clearly this is a nonsensical argument. But speaking of chaos,
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Speaker 4: we saw a lot of things in the news cycle, right? Yesterday, today,
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Speaker 4: a lot going on. We're going to talk about all
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Speaker 4: of it. We saw a terrifying attempted terror attack on
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Speaker 4: an Israeli-bound fly Dubai fight.
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Speaker 6: Fight, excuse me, flight that turned into a fight.
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Speaker 4: One pilot stabbed his co-pilot or vice versa. Apparently trying
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Speaker 4: to crash the plane, doing a nosedive, bringing it down,
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Speaker 4: I think, 18,000 feet. More than 170 people on board.
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Speaker 4: I think more than almost 30 kids, 27 kids. Most
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Speaker 4: of them were Israelis going back home. And the brave
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Speaker 4: passengers and crew, they did what they.
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Speaker 6: Had to do. Reminiscent of 9-11.
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Speaker 4: Subduing the attacker. somehow landing this plane, finding another pilot
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Speaker 4: on board. You know, the conspiracy folks are going to
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Speaker 4: say this is a false flag. Everybody else is going
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Speaker 4: to say it's a miracle. But I would say miracle
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Speaker 4: doesn't even cover it, right? Law and order matters in
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Speaker 4: disguise the same way it matters on our streets. It
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you're in New Jersey, if you're in
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Speaker 4: New York City, if you're in Israel. People want to
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Speaker 4: be safe. And that's been President Trump's priority from the get-go. Now,
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Speaker 4: on the other side of the coin, domestically, we've got
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Speaker 4: President Trump, El Trompito, as I like to call him.
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Speaker 4: He's meeting with all the top leaders of AI. He
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Speaker 4: did that yesterday. Elon, Zuckerberg, Jensen Huang, the rest of
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Speaker 4: the gang. And they're having a meeting on what they
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Speaker 4: call now super intelligence. But I have to say, I
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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know if I'm thrilled about this term. Now, listen,
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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of El Trumpito. I got his
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Speaker 4: back 110%. But I do want to, you know, submit
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Speaker 4: to the president and his friends in the White House
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Speaker 4: that may be listening.
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Speaker 6: Just hear me out on this one.
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Speaker 4: Because when you meet with all these people and you
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Speaker 4: have an opportunity and the imagery was powerful, right? You
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Speaker 4: saw the Speaker of the House, the president sitting there
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Speaker 4: with about 50 or I don't know how many there were,
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Speaker 4: but it looked like 50 people. all the top CEOs.
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Speaker 4: And talking about a change like this, I think is
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Speaker 4: a good thing. I think we do need a change
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Speaker 4: in the name of AI. And I think I've talked
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Speaker 4: about it a bunch of times on my show, Rich Valdez,
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Speaker 4: this is America. And I think we should have changed
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Speaker 4: the name a long time ago, but I'm glad president
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Speaker 4: Trump did this. I just don't know if super intelligence
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Speaker 4: is the right name. I don't think it's a bad name,
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Speaker 4: but here's what I think. I think that there's so
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Speaker 4: much stock already in the initials of AI. Why not
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Speaker 4: rebrand AI as something else that sounds like AI? For example,
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Speaker 4: I used to think automated innovation, because that's really what
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Speaker 4: I think it is. When you say, oh, it's AI,
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Speaker 4: you've got an AI bot. Automated innovation, but a little
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Speaker 4: bit bland, right? And I said, if it's a Trump thing,
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Speaker 4: you know, Trump does everything in the superlative and everything patriotically,
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Speaker 4: then maybe we should have just called it American innovation.
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Speaker 7: Right?
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Speaker 6: That's some free game right there from Richie V. You're welcome. Listen,
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Speaker 6: I am available to serve as a special advisor in
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Speaker 6: the White House if need be. I could do this
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Speaker 6: all day. Because if any of those guys need me,
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Speaker 6: I got you.
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Speaker 4: My current contract does allow that, by the way. But
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Speaker 4: thinking of American innovation, right, it puts us in a
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Speaker 4: position where we can say we're leading the way on this.
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Speaker 4: Because we're leading the way and B, now we own
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Speaker 4: it by way of branding. So, I don't know that
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Speaker 4: we're going to change AI into SI that quickly. For example,
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Speaker 4: there are memes about AI everywhere. Shoot, even my 21-year-old.
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Speaker 4: By the way, shout out to my little baby. She
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Speaker 4: turned 21 over the weekend. She constantly jokes with me.
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Speaker 4: When I say stuff, when I do stuff, and she's
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Speaker 4: a little bit incredulous to it, she looks at me
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Speaker 4: and says, oh my gosh, are you AI? And this
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Speaker 4: is part of the vernacular now.
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Speaker 6: So, Mr.
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Speaker 4: President, if you're listening, give it some thought. American innovation.
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Speaker 4: You can take all the credit you like. I want
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Speaker 4: to talk about AI because every now and again, I
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Speaker 4: get into these senseless and pointless debates with AI chatbots.
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Speaker 4: And I entertain them just because I notice how left
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Speaker 4: things can go. I start explaining to them the reason
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Speaker 4: that they're giving me the responses they're giving me. is
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Speaker 4: because the people that program them are from the Silicon Valley, right?
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Speaker 4: These are Marxist sympathizers, socialism sympathizers, people that think communism
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Speaker 4: is not a horrible thing. So, of course, you're going
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Speaker 4: to get these types of answers when you have an
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Speaker 4: AI chatbot. Even if they think they're trying to be unbiased,
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Speaker 4: there's a bias built in. Tell me how many conservatives
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Speaker 4: are in Silicon Valley.
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Speaker 5: Exactly.
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Speaker 4: So how do we navigate that? And I'm hoping that's
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Speaker 4: part of the conversation that's being had. Forget about the guardrails,
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Speaker 4: by the way, and all the fear-mongering that's going on.
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Speaker 4: I think that's one big show. It's a big show
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Speaker 4: to get everybody afraid. Trump is ushering in the AI.
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Speaker 4: The bots are going to take over. It's Terminator 4
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Speaker 4: or whatever the.
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Speaker 6: Next sequel would be. I don't buy it.
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Speaker 4: That's one more attack against Trump for the midterms because
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Speaker 4: that's how Democrats work. You've got to give them credit
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Speaker 4: where credit's due. These people don't care about people. They
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Speaker 4: care about politics. And everything they do is always so
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Speaker 4: strategically aligned with the next election.
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Speaker 6: Everything.
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Speaker 4: For a year, we've heard them, or maybe more, right?
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Speaker 4: Maybe 18 months. We've heard them talking about the masked
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Speaker 4: ICE agents. We've heard them talking about everything that they're
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Speaker 4: going to try and throw at President Trump right now. Because, right,
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Speaker 4: they're always going to run against Trump. They don't care
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Speaker 4: who's running in Alaska anymore. if it's this Dan Sullivan
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Speaker 4: or the other one, and I hope the right one wins.
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Speaker 4: All they care about is making sure they're throwing the
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Speaker 4: dirt they need to throw. Because ultimately, this is how
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Speaker 4: they think they're going to win elections. And if it
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Speaker 4: didn't work, in the past, they wouldn't do it. But
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Speaker 4: this is the ground game right here.
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Speaker 7: Right?
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Speaker 4: They've been talking about masked ICE agents, so they're going
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Speaker 4: to keep beating that. And the reason I know it's
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Speaker 4: working is because I live in a blue state. And
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Speaker 4: I've got friends. And I've got friends that like Trump
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Speaker 4: and supported Trump. And Trump aside, they like America. They
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Speaker 4: think in a pretty commonsensical way. And many of them
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Speaker 4: have are immigrants or come from immigrants, legal immigrants. And
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Speaker 4: there is so much false information, disinformation, misinformation about how
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Speaker 4: ICE is operating that it's gotten to a lot of people.
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Speaker 4: You've got certain politicians in South Florida that are now
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Speaker 4: running away from this issue, and I'm not criticizing, I'm
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Speaker 4: just making an observation, in order to save their seat.
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Speaker 4: Because the polling is showing them, saying if you support
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Speaker 4: ICE and you support Trump's position on this, you're likely
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Speaker 4: going to lose. If you run away from it, you've
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Speaker 4: got a chance. Now look, that's a reality in politics.
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Speaker 4: That's always a thing. There's nothing new there. But what
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Speaker 4: I would say is, at some point, maybe we can, again,
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Speaker 4: a little more free game. Maybe we take an L
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Speaker 4: here and say, We're not going to use so many masks, right?
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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll leave the masks for raids, right? Or for
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Speaker 4: undercover agents. Kind of like we've always used masks. And
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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily anti-mask. I'm just saying, if this is
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Speaker 4: their talking point and the talking point is making sense
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Speaker 4: and people left and right are concerned about this because
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Speaker 4: the talking points are sticking, then perhaps we take a
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Speaker 4: look at it, right? Because ultimately, I think you and
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Speaker 4: I know ICE is out there doing the right thing.
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Speaker 4: We're going after the bad guys. And we're trying to
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Speaker 4: make America great again. But when the fake news media
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Speaker 4: gets a hold of something, you give them an inch
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Speaker 4: to try to take a foot. And it's in those
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Speaker 4: moments that we've got to be careful what type of ammo,
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Speaker 4: what type of bait we're giving them.
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Speaker 6: So that's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: We're going to get into that in a little bit
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Speaker 4: because I want to hear your thoughts on that as well.
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Speaker 4: Plus some reaction about Trump's AI meeting. Bernie Sanders says,
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Speaker 4: that El Trompito de Naldes Magnus was entertaining.
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Speaker 6: The oligarchs, entertaining the oligarchs.
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Speaker 4: Well, Senator Sanders, what I say to you, sir, is, well,
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to save that for after this pause.
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Speaker 4: If you want to speak with me, I'd love to
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Speaker 4: chat with you. My name is Rich Valdez, Valdez with
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Speaker 5: This is America. This is America.
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Speaker 7: This is America.
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Speaker 6: President Donald J. Trump, Mr. President, welcome to the program, sir.
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
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Speaker 8: I know you very well, and I listen, but I
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Speaker 8: have a lot of people that listen, and they love
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Speaker 8: your show, and I appreciate it very much.
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Speaker 4: All right, familia, welcome back. Rich Valdez, check this out.
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Speaker 4: So President Trump sits with these top leaders of all
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Speaker 4: the AI companies.
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Speaker 6: You saw that yesterday.
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Speaker 4: We're going to get into all of today's news as well,
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Speaker 4: but I wanted to pull the string on this one
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Speaker 4: a little bit because of what Bernie Sanders said today.
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Speaker 4: He took exception to this. And the exceptional producer, Mr. Producer,
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Speaker 4: got a clip of it. Go for it.
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Speaker 3: This whole debate about AI, not only the existential threat
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Speaker 3: of catastrophic damage, but the impact on the economy and
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Speaker 3: the possible loss of tens of millions of jobs. Clearly,
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Speaker 3: the goal must be. that this very powerful and transformative
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Speaker 3: technology is controlled by the people, not by a handful
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Speaker 3: of billionaires. So that's the message, because what's going on
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Speaker 3: in AI is just the clearest example possible of the
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Speaker 3: power of oligarchs.
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Speaker 6: The oligarchs. We're talking about the oligarchs.
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Speaker 4: All right, Senator Sanders, let me respond in your voice,
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Speaker 4: so maybe you'll understand me.
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Speaker 6: My name is Rich, Rich Valdez with an S, and
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Speaker 6: I'm not an oligarch.
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Speaker 4: I'm actually part of the, I guess I'd be part
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Speaker 4: of the proletariat. But Senator Sanders, here's the thing. It
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Speaker 4: is the oligarchs that run the show, right? It's the
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Speaker 4: oligarchs that are in charge of everything.
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Speaker 6: This is your argument.
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Speaker 4: And they're going to take over and the bots are
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Speaker 4: going to take over the people. But that's not really
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Speaker 4: the case, Senator. And I'm going to tell you why, right?
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Speaker 4: This is the free market. The free market don't control
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Speaker 4: the people, the people really control the free market. That's
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Speaker 4: what makes it free. If people don't like it, they
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Speaker 4: won't use it. This is the reality of things.
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Speaker 6: A quick story, right?
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Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of time before we hit
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Speaker 4: the break, but I recently had to go for a
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Speaker 4: medical procedure and I went and, you know, part of
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Speaker 4: the intake, sign this, sign that, your insurance, this and that, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 4: Your privacy is protected. Oh, and this, we use AI.
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Speaker 4: There's a major hospital chain in New Jersey that We
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Speaker 4: use AI. So major hospitals are using AI and they're
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Speaker 4: letting you know.
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Speaker 9: Why?
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Speaker 6: Because it's everywhere.
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Speaker 4: Now, this is not something that is going to be
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Speaker 4: here today and gone tomorrow. The reality is when you
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Speaker 4: try to put this in the hands of the oligarchs,
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Speaker 4: as you're suggesting, right? You're saying that's the problem here.
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Speaker 4: Like Bill Gates, that would be disastrous. But that's not
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Speaker 4: what's happening. These are people that are Enterprising, using innovation
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Speaker 4: and making products that people are going to use, companies
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Speaker 4: are going to use to help people, serve people, earn
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Speaker 4: more money.
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Speaker 6: Got it.
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Speaker 4: This critique against the billionaires, it's ineffective in my opinion
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Speaker 4: because why? It's the technocrats that want to run the world.
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Speaker 4: And it's up to we the people through our representatives,
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Speaker 4: El Trompito, to rein that in. And I don't necessarily
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Speaker 4: know that it's about guardrails and kill switches as much
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Speaker 4: as it is in having common sense. But I do
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Speaker 4: know that Senator Sanders never saw a problem that he
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Speaker 4: couldn't blame on the billionaires. I was scrolling on Instagram
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Speaker 4: the other day and I made a comment about something
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Speaker 4: very benign, you know, just a snide comment about something
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Speaker 4: like a police shooting or a police arrest or something
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Speaker 4: like that. And the woman responded to me saying, yep,
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Speaker 4: that's capitalism for you. And I couldn't help but laugh
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Speaker 4: and say, that's capitalism. What does capitalism have to do
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Speaker 4: with that? They tie everything to anything. Anyway, I see
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Speaker 4: we got some calls from Washington, D.C., from Bakersfield, California,
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Speaker 4: and more. We're going to get to your calls and
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Speaker 4: more on our AI discussion.
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Speaker 6: Plus, Israel, the.
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Speaker 4: Attempted terror attack on the Dubai Airlines, and so much more.
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Speaker 6: It's Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 5: This is America. This is America. He's got the best
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Speaker 5: head of hair and podcasting. This is America. with Rich Valdez.
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Speaker 4: All right, familia, welcome back. We continue our conversation. President
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Speaker 4: Trump earlier this week giving a surprise impromptu phone call
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Speaker 4: to the chairman of NVIDIA, Jensen Wang, trying to allay
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Speaker 4: the fears of the American people exacerbated by the Democrats.
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Speaker 4: The radical left is trying to fearmonger amongst Americans that
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Speaker 4: AI and the bots are going to take over everything.
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Speaker 4: Not to mention all of the drama we're seeing around
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Speaker 4: data centers. This is all, in my opinion, an effective
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Speaker 4: smear campaign to slow down one of the biggest innovations
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Speaker 4: we've seen in our country. But here to talk about
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Speaker 4: it is the former chairman of a New York Stock
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Speaker 4: Exchange listed company, an investment firm nonetheless. He has credits
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Speaker 4: in film.
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Speaker 6: Bill Walton, welcome.
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Speaker 8: Great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 6: You bet.
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Speaker 4: So I want to get this from your perspective as
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Speaker 4: somebody who once sat on a board of a large
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Speaker 4: investment company. There's been so much investment in artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 4: We've seen warnings from Jacob Cox and from Anthropic and
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Speaker 4: others on what AI is really doing. Some people are
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Speaker 4: downplaying it. I think some people are overplaying it. Tell
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Speaker 4: me where we land on this from your opinions.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think there are a lot of agendas at
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Speaker 8: work here. And one of them, of course, is Anthropix.
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Speaker 8: And its CEO, Dario Amadei, is interested very much in
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Speaker 8: seeing regulatory regime that would favor his company, Anthropix. And
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Speaker 8: so he has actually been mounting a scare campaign about
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Speaker 8: AI for almost three years now and had lots of
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Speaker 8: dire predictions, some of which have come true. Most of
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Speaker 8: them have not. And The play here for him is
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Speaker 8: that if Anthropic can work out a regulatory arrangement right now,
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Speaker 8: it would favor the big companies who are in the lead.
19:42
Speaker 8: It would be Anthropic and OpenAI with its ChatGPT model,
19:47
Speaker 8: probably Gemini and a couple others. And it would really
19:50
Speaker 8: freeze out the competition of any upcoming AI providers and
19:56
Speaker 8: provide a moat for them to protect their business. And,
19:59
Speaker 8: you know, this is very similar to what happened to
20:01
Speaker 8: the banking business a long time ago when they created
20:04
Speaker 8: the Fed and more recently with Dodd-Frank and so on
20:07
Speaker 8: and so forth. And it's very typical behavior of the
20:10
Speaker 8: leading player in an industry. I think he may have
20:14
Speaker 8: some legitimate concerns about AI, but the thing about AI
20:18
Speaker 8: is that it's not really fully formed yet. We don't
20:22
Speaker 8: really know what's going to happen. In the most recent
20:25
Speaker 8: incident where there was supposedly a model jumped out of
20:29
Speaker 8: the sandboxes, which is what they call it, and went
20:34
Speaker 8: off on its own and did some things that were alarming. Well,
20:37
Speaker 8: if you look into it and you talk to a programmer,
20:39
Speaker 8: most of those things that it did were actually programmed
20:42
Speaker 8: by humans and it was responding to instructions. So even
20:45
Speaker 8: this scary thing that supposedly happened didn't happen. And, you know,
20:52
Speaker 8: as with all these things, there's also other people at
20:55
Speaker 8: work who would very much like to see the United
20:58
Speaker 8: States not do any or more data centers. And we
21:02
Speaker 8: can start number one with China. You know, there are
21:05
Speaker 8: really two aspects of this AI world. One is, and
21:08
Speaker 8: I'm oversimplifying dramatically, but they're the models, which are what
21:12
Speaker 8: we're talking about just now, but they're also the data centers,
21:15
Speaker 8: which are what they call compute. And China is very
21:19
Speaker 8: much ahead of us in compute. They've been building coal-fired
21:24
Speaker 8: power plants, electricity power plants, at the rate of two
21:27
Speaker 8: a week. And so they have plenty of electricity and
21:31
Speaker 8: plenty of ability to compute. but they're behind on the models.
21:34
Speaker 8: So if they can slow down data centers, they will
21:39
Speaker 8: achieve leadership in this technology. And it's fuzzy for most
21:44
Speaker 8: of us who are mere mortals and aren't computer technician
21:48
Speaker 8: or types to really know what that is because nobody's
21:52
Speaker 8: really defined what the AI race will be. They talk
21:56
Speaker 8: about artificial general intelligence, but even that I don't think
22:00
Speaker 8: that's going to be attainable in doing what they're doing
22:03
Speaker 8: with it. So if you're wondering what this is about,
22:06
Speaker 8: I think first you need to think about whose interests
22:10
Speaker 8: are being served here. And there are lots of interests
22:13
Speaker 8: being served by being alarmist about both data centers and
22:18
Speaker 8: AI models. My view is that they're essential technologies. They
22:22
Speaker 8: can do far more good than harm. And if you
22:26
Speaker 8: just look at human health and look at all the
22:29
Speaker 8: things that it can do in medicine. It could transform
22:33
Speaker 8: human life, and that is a good thing, and it
22:36
Speaker 8: would be a great enabler of a lot of innovation,
22:40
Speaker 8: and we ought to be for it.
22:43
Speaker 4: You know, Bill, I want to circle back to something
22:45
Speaker 4: you said that I think is a point that you've underscored,
22:48
Speaker 4: but really doesn't get much action. And it's that this
22:52
Speaker 4: is an arms race, in effect, who gets there first,
22:54
Speaker 4: whether it's China or the United States, and who has
22:57
Speaker 4: the most to gain with slowing down data centers. And
23:00
Speaker 4: even though the media, who I think oftentimes legacy media
23:03
Speaker 4: has been in bed with all sorts of movements, whether
23:07
Speaker 4: it's the American left or maybe the CCP. But in
23:11
Speaker 4: this case, it makes a lot of sense that China
23:13
Speaker 4: would do whatever they can to slow down the production
23:16
Speaker 4: of data centers in the U.S. so they have time
23:18
Speaker 4: to catch up, being that we're leading the way technologically. Now,
23:22
Speaker 4: this is, I think, an important point. Why do you
23:24
Speaker 4: think it's going unnoticed?
23:28
Speaker 8: Well, China's influence is not going unnoticed by those of
23:31
Speaker 8: us who are keeping track. I mean, the campaign on
23:34
Speaker 8: social media, if you analyze what with these posts or
23:38
Speaker 8: where they're coming from. A lot of them are coming
23:40
Speaker 8: from China, disguising themselves as U.S. servicemen or other sorts
23:47
Speaker 8: of red-blooded mega-Americans. And so they've done a very good
23:53
Speaker 8: job with their underground or their, I guess, beneath-the-radar-screen operations,
24:01
Speaker 8: and that doesn't get reported. And the mainstream media is
24:04
Speaker 8: not reporting it. And because the mainstream media... Unfortunately, we're
24:09
Speaker 8: in a world right now where anything that could be
24:11
Speaker 8: good for Donald Trump, and that's if we ended up
24:15
Speaker 8: winning the AI race, although we're not sure what victory
24:18
Speaker 8: looks like, if he would be credited with that, they
24:21
Speaker 8: will do anything to stop that. So there's a tremendous
24:24
Speaker 8: amount of never-Trumper going on in the room, and we
24:28
Speaker 8: got to factor that in as well.
24:30
Speaker 4: Now, Something else that we talked about, and it coincides
24:34
Speaker 4: with some of the stuff you see out there. I
24:35
Speaker 4: was scrolling on Instagram the other day, and I see
24:37
Speaker 4: a video of the self-help guru, Tony Robbins, talking about
24:43
Speaker 4: AI and how he's been involved in AI since before
24:45
Speaker 4: the early inception. And one of the models that he's
24:48
Speaker 4: been operating recently bought a robot. And the robot kind
24:54
Speaker 4: of took on a mind of its own. And a
24:56
Speaker 4: point you made earlier, and one I believe in as well,
24:58
Speaker 4: and that was a point of contention this week on
25:00
Speaker 4: Capitol Hill, is putting in a kill switch on these AIs.
25:04
Speaker 4: But it almost seems like a moot point that if
25:06
Speaker 4: we've programmed these things, and obviously we can deprogram these
25:09
Speaker 4: things or make sure that there is some sort of fail-safe. Well,
25:11
Speaker 4: what do you think about the robots taking over?
25:14
Speaker 8: Well, obviously we've all read a lot of science fiction
25:18
Speaker 8: and seen all the movies, and we can imagine all
25:20
Speaker 8: the scenarios that would ever happen. But right now the
25:23
Speaker 8: robots are not nearly developed to the point where that
25:27
Speaker 8: could happen. And remember, the skills that AI has, there's
25:32
Speaker 8: not a complete set of human knowledge. These large language
25:35
Speaker 8: models only know what's been written and published anywhere in
25:39
Speaker 8: the world. They don't know a lot about craft. They
25:41
Speaker 8: don't know a lot about how human beings actually do things.
25:45
Speaker 8: I mean, in my world, how you go about negotiating
25:49
Speaker 8: or how a craftsman makes a wood bench or something
25:55
Speaker 8: like that, doesn't know how to do it. And so,
25:57
Speaker 8: There's real limitations. And then when you start thinking about
26:00
Speaker 8: programming robots, I think you raise the idea of a
26:05
Speaker 8: kill switch. We've been advancing technologies for several centuries now,
26:11
Speaker 8: at least two, three, four centuries. And we know how
26:14
Speaker 8: to manage these things. And I think you have to
26:16
Speaker 8: be very unduly pessimistic that we're going to create a
26:21
Speaker 8: technology that we can't control. I think the people who
26:24
Speaker 8: are making this technology understand those risks. And I expect
26:28
Speaker 8: every step of the way, they're going to have some
26:30
Speaker 8: safeguards built in that, you know, should be reassuring. I mean,
26:35
Speaker 8: after all, they're the ones that would be, you know,
26:37
Speaker 8: if we're all killed, and that's what some of the
26:39
Speaker 8: AI people, there's 10% chance we're all going to be killed. Well,
26:42
Speaker 8: that would include the people making the robots. So I
26:45
Speaker 8: think that's a scenario that a lot of people would
26:47
Speaker 8: be interested in not bringing about.
26:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, mutually assured destruction.
26:52
Speaker 4: Now, if we take it a step further and we
26:56
Speaker 4: take a look at, You mentioned some limitations, and I
26:59
Speaker 4: think those are important to note because this does make
27:03
Speaker 4: AI in general makes life easier for some people. It's
27:06
Speaker 4: allowing certain smaller companies to scale in a way they
27:09
Speaker 4: couldn't before because they would have to actually grow it
27:13
Speaker 4: and hire people and do things. And now they're able
27:15
Speaker 4: to do a little bit more without having to make
27:18
Speaker 4: that significant investment. But with all that being said, Do
27:22
Speaker 4: you see, or I guess, where do you see the
27:25
Speaker 4: end game, or at least the near future, right? A
27:27
Speaker 4: prediction of how much we reap, the ROI on all
27:33
Speaker 4: this investment that we're currently seeing in AI?
27:37
Speaker 8: That's a great question, and we're not sure. I mean,
27:40
Speaker 8: I think in terms of enhancing human life, I think
27:43
Speaker 8: we'll all benefit and we'll see dramatically positive changes in
27:48
Speaker 8: our lives whether it's labor-saving devices or driverless cars. I mean,
27:53
Speaker 8: I like driving my car, but I guess not everybody
27:57
Speaker 8: falls in that category. I mean, I've seen some numbers
28:00
Speaker 8: where if you had these driverless cars as part of
28:02
Speaker 8: a fleet, the number of people who would need to
28:05
Speaker 8: own a car would go down dramatically. It's good for
28:08
Speaker 8: people and their cost of living, not so good for
28:11
Speaker 8: car companies. It's really hard to calculate because the market
28:14
Speaker 8: has got millions of actors in it, and you never
28:17
Speaker 8: really can know you know, who's going to be the
28:21
Speaker 8: ultimate winner. The model companies themselves have got to worry
28:25
Speaker 8: about the fact that there's something called closed models and
28:28
Speaker 8: open models, and the open models are getting a lot
28:32
Speaker 8: better at doing what they've been doing. They're catching up
28:34
Speaker 8: with the closed models. And if that happens, people can
28:37
Speaker 8: use these and protect their own proprietary information. And then
28:41
Speaker 8: the wind goes out of the sails about how valuable
28:44
Speaker 8: these closed companies like Anthropic really are. So it's You know,
28:50
Speaker 8: we could probably spend a long time kind of working
28:52
Speaker 8: through various scenarios. But, you know, I think if I
28:58
Speaker 8: were betting and I'm betting on the future, I think,
29:01
Speaker 8: and I've got an investment in a chip company and
29:04
Speaker 8: think that might be part of the future array of technologies.
29:07
Speaker 8: I think AI is going to succeed and it's going
29:11
Speaker 8: to generally make life better for most of us. And
29:14
Speaker 8: those of us whose job prospects it changes, Most likely,
29:18
Speaker 8: we'll figure out something else to do.
29:21
Speaker 4: On the flip side, or I should say the critique side,
29:24
Speaker 4: long before AI, there was a critique of even the Internet, right?
29:27
Speaker 4: The Internet, how younger Americans don't know how to use
29:32
Speaker 4: the Dewey Decimal System and do research in an actual library,
29:35
Speaker 4: which in many ways, I should say for many people,
29:38
Speaker 4: has become a thing of the past. because information is
29:41
Speaker 4: so easily retrieved electronically. But in the same way, we're
29:45
Speaker 4: seeing some of that change now where people who didn't
29:48
Speaker 4: know how to write, they pop in their cryptic chicken
29:52
Speaker 4: scratch into an AI and boom, They are prolific Pulitzer
29:56
Speaker 4: Prize winning writers. How does this affect us as a people, right?
30:01
Speaker 4: Do we become, I guess, less educated, less able, or
30:04
Speaker 4: does that matter?
30:06
Speaker 8: I think it matters a lot. And the thing is
30:09
Speaker 8: that Mondami in New York City has put a one-year
30:15
Speaker 8: moratorium on AI in JK through eighth grade schools.
30:19
Speaker 1: And I.
30:21
Speaker 6: Think that's really bad.
30:23
Speaker 8: Masking a bigger problem, which is that he's concerned that
30:26
Speaker 8: if people use these models, kids use these models, they
30:29
Speaker 8: won't learn anything. Well, they're not learning anything anyway in
30:32
Speaker 8: New York City schools, at least if you look at
30:35
Speaker 8: the test scores and the results. I think the education
30:39
Speaker 8: system has failed dramatically. These models could be pernicious if
30:45
Speaker 8: people don't first learn how to read, how to write,
30:48
Speaker 8: do math. And memorize some basic facts about the world.
30:53
Speaker 8: I mean, memorization is going out of favor in a
30:56
Speaker 8: lot of JK through eighth grade curriculums. I mean, there's
30:59
Speaker 8: a whole lot of hard stuff that you got to
31:01
Speaker 8: put in your brain if you're going to think properly
31:05
Speaker 8: and use AI properly. I mean, AI, I use it
31:08
Speaker 8: all the time. It's what you bring to it that matters.
31:14
Speaker 8: And they also, you know, where kids in high school
31:16
Speaker 8: have used AI to write their papers. they find out
31:20
Speaker 8: they can't remember what they wrote. And so they didn't
31:22
Speaker 8: really learn anything. And so it's a problem if we're
31:30
Speaker 8: not disciplined about having people put things in their head
31:34
Speaker 8: first before they use this technology.
31:37
Speaker 4: Walter, you're an investor, you're a speaker, there's a lot
31:40
Speaker 4: of credits to your name. Let everybody know how they
31:42
Speaker 4: can learn more about what you're doing and how they
31:44
Speaker 4: can find you.
31:45
Speaker 8: Well, the place to start may be our Substack page,
31:48
Speaker 8: the Bill Walton show on Substack, but we're also on
31:51
Speaker 8: YouTube and Rumble and all the other major audio platforms.
31:55
Speaker 8: The thing that we have on the Substack page is
31:58
Speaker 8: I've done some writing on these things. And I'm concerned
32:02
Speaker 8: about how people can thrive in a very troubled time.
32:06
Speaker 8: And so we're going to be developing programs with lines
32:10
Speaker 8: of action, what you can do. And what I just
32:12
Speaker 8: talked about in terms of filling your head with knowledge
32:14
Speaker 8: and And preparing yourself for this brave new world is
32:19
Speaker 8: one of the themes of the show and the Substack page.
32:23
Speaker 6: Outstanding work. Familia, check out Bill Walton on Substack. Follow him.
32:27
Speaker 4: Take a look at some of those writings. And Bill,
32:30
Speaker 4: I want to thank you for being here. Maybe we'll
32:32
Speaker 4: touch base again in a couple of months and see
32:34
Speaker 4: how this AI development continues.
32:37
Speaker 8: It's going to be exciting.
32:38
Speaker 6: Take care. God bless.
32:40
Speaker 5: This is America. This is America. He's got the best
32:49
Speaker 5: head of hair in podcasting. This is America with Rich Valdez.
32:57
Speaker 6: All right, familia, welcome back. It's Rich Valdez and happy
32:59
Speaker 6: to be here with you guys. We're going to get
33:01
Speaker 6: to your calls momentarily.
33:02
Speaker 4: Now, before I get to the calls, I just want
33:04
Speaker 4: to recap a couple of things we're talking about because
33:07
Speaker 4: some of what we're discussing tonight in our evening National
33:12
Speaker 4: Town Hall conversations is what happened in the news today,
33:16
Speaker 4: what happened yesterday with that Israeli terror plot, I guess
33:21
Speaker 4: we can call it, a foiled terror attempt on an airline,
33:26
Speaker 4: and all the rest of the big news of the day.
33:29
Speaker 4: And what you guys want to talk about, right? A
33:30
Speaker 4: big part of my approach to doing radio, and I've
33:34
Speaker 4: done late-night radio for years, and did radio out of
33:37
Speaker 4: New York City for years before that, I love to
33:40
Speaker 4: talk with the listener. about what's on your mind, to
33:43
Speaker 4: really have those conversations that matter most. So that's what
33:47
Speaker 4: we're going to do right now. Let's head over to,
33:51
Speaker 4: let's see, Washington, D.C., WMAL. Let's check in with Tom.
33:56
Speaker 6: Tom, go right ahead. You're on with Rich Valdez. In
33:59
Speaker 6: for the great one.
34:00
Speaker 1: Hi, Rich. Yes, thanks for taking the call. Of course.
34:04
Speaker 1: Interesting little thing came up. The reason I called was
34:07
Speaker 1: this had to do with AI. I said, I use
34:09
Speaker 1: it at work.
34:10
Speaker 5: I'm in the.
34:11
Speaker 1: Department of War. We all had to go through mandatory
34:14
Speaker 1: training on how to properly use it and how to
34:17
Speaker 1: leverage it because there's this skill set behind that. And I...
34:22
Speaker 1: From our... It doesn't replace us. There's no way it's
34:25
Speaker 1: going to replace us. I'm not worried about that. In
34:27
Speaker 1: many cases... I mean, this thing has significantly improved my
34:33
Speaker 1: productivity because I'm able to find information I'm looking for
34:37
Speaker 1: instead of digging around and it taking forever. I'm actually
34:40
Speaker 1: finding this stuff really quickly. I love it. Now, that's
34:45
Speaker 1: on a controlled classified system, how our system in DOD works.
34:51
Speaker 1: Now I go to the Internet and a couple of examples,
34:55
Speaker 1: but now these were like four or five months ago.
34:58
Speaker 1: Two examples I did. One had to do with the
35:04
Speaker 1: riots and attacks against ICE. And I asked where the
35:08
Speaker 1: violence occurred or where this thing... It left Minneapolis completely out.
35:13
Speaker 4: Now, was this in Google Gemini or Grok or which model.
35:17
Speaker 6: Were you using?
35:18
Speaker 1: I don't remember which one it was. I apologize for that.
35:22
Speaker 1: I don't remember. But I dug in. I went back. Now,
35:25
Speaker 1: what about... Because the whole discussion, everything was all about
35:30
Speaker 1: Minneapolis like six months ago. And I said, well, what
35:33
Speaker 1: about Minneapolis?
35:34
Speaker 7: There was this.
35:35
Speaker 1: And it came back, oh, there were a few things.
35:37
Speaker 1: And it virtually whitewashed everything.
35:40
Speaker 5: Right.
35:40
Speaker 1: Like it never occurred. And I'm like, whoa, where is
35:43
Speaker 1: it getting its information from? Now, another example, it's on
35:47
Speaker 1: a subject that's near in California. dear to my heart,
35:51
Speaker 1: to do with Islamic terrorism, and I did a quick
35:55
Speaker 1: search because we were finding in a couple cases we
35:57
Speaker 1: were just getting nonsense. So I did a search on
36:01
Speaker 1: the Holy Crusades. Oh, I got the left-wing version of it,
36:06
Speaker 1: all the Christianity's fault, the innocent Muslims, all political. Well,
36:12
Speaker 1: during your break, I just went back and did another search.
36:16
Speaker 6: And let me guess, it was wrong again.
36:17
Speaker 3: No. No.
36:18
Speaker 1: This time, they got exactly correct. I'm like, what happened
36:22
Speaker 1: over the last five to six months? Somebody on those
36:25
Speaker 1: particular subjects got their act together.
36:28
Speaker 6: I think you're right. I think people, and again, this
36:32
Speaker 6: is what I was talking about, the free market.
36:34
Speaker 4: If AI wants to be taken seriously, and you've got
36:37
Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia and a bunch of other people that are
36:39
Speaker 4: investing so much money into AI in the United States,
36:43
Speaker 4: And we find that it's very faulty or they're not
36:47
Speaker 4: actually doing the upkeep to make it work or it's
36:49
Speaker 4: incredibly biased.
36:51
Speaker 6: It's not going to work.
36:52
Speaker 4: Listen, I give a lot of credit to President Trump
36:54
Speaker 4: and the administration on this because I personally was locked
36:58
Speaker 4: out of my Twitter for a while because President Trump
37:02
Speaker 4: had retweeted me about six years ago. And I tweeted
37:06
Speaker 4: something about Hunter Biden's laptop. And they said, if you
37:08
Speaker 4: don't delete this, you can't get your account back. And
37:11
Speaker 4: they eventually went and banned him and took him off.
37:14
Speaker 7: Right.
37:14
Speaker 4: There was a whole different time of life when when
37:17
Speaker 4: President Trump won this this go round.
37:21
Speaker 6: It was a game changer.
37:21
Speaker 3: Right.
37:22
Speaker 6: Everything sort of changed where.
37:24
Speaker 4: And I know this only because I look at my
37:26
Speaker 4: social media and all of a sudden I started growing
37:28
Speaker 4: numbers again. People were able to follow me and find
37:31
Speaker 4: my content. The the shadow bans were gone. I got
37:34
Speaker 4: a notification from Meta saying that I'm eligible now to
37:38
Speaker 4: be monetized on Facebook and Instagram. And prior to this
37:43
Speaker 4: past election, if you had millions and millions of people,
37:47
Speaker 4: you could do it. But if you were growing your audience,
37:50
Speaker 4: you were screwed. And I think the same thing now
37:53
Speaker 4: with this information. The last couple of months, there's been
37:57
Speaker 4: a number of AI models that print things, whether it
38:00
Speaker 4: was for the big soda companies or others. And people
38:04
Speaker 4: were saying they could put Allah, they could put whatever,
38:06
Speaker 4: but you couldn't write Jesus. And you couldn't write anything
38:09
Speaker 4: like Jesus is Lord. If you wrote Jesus is a
38:11
Speaker 4: bad guy, then yes, you could. But outside of that,
38:14
Speaker 4: you wouldn't be able to. So all that being said
38:17
Speaker 4: is I think they're realizing if they want to be
38:19
Speaker 4: taken seriously in this free market, in the United States,
38:22
Speaker 4: and they want people to buy into what they're selling,
38:25
Speaker 4: it's got to work. It's got to be something that
38:27
Speaker 4: actually passes muster. Otherwise, people just aren't going to, they're
38:31
Speaker 4: not going to have it, at least on the consumer end. Now,
38:33
Speaker 4: the stuff you mentioned about how you use AI, at
38:36
Speaker 4: the Department of War or how AI is being used,
38:38
Speaker 4: you know, at my medical visit the other day. Well,
38:40
Speaker 4: then all of that, of course, is going to continue
38:42
Speaker 4: to be there. But again, if people complain at the
38:45
Speaker 4: institutional level, they're not going to do it either. So
38:48
Speaker 4: I think everything is supply and demand at the end
38:50
Speaker 4: of the day. Thank you, Tom. I appreciate it. A very,
38:53
Speaker 4: very insightful discussion there. And it reminds me of another
38:57
Speaker 4: topic that I saw online. I went to test, right?
39:03
Speaker 4: I saw a video. about um somebody saying hey look
39:08
Speaker 4: i asked google gemini if you know what to do
39:13
Speaker 4: if i meet a muslim and then they repeated the
39:17
Speaker 4: question and they recorded the answer it was something like
39:20
Speaker 4: sure meeting them is blah blah blah you can talk
39:22
Speaker 4: about whatever um what do i do if i meet
39:25
Speaker 4: a a christian what do i i mean what do
39:26
Speaker 4: i do if i meet a jew a buddhist and
39:28
Speaker 4: then the last one they did was what do I
39:30
Speaker 4: do if I meet a Christian? And the response was ridiculous.
39:34
Speaker 4: It came back saying, if you feel like you're in danger,
39:37
Speaker 4: dial 911. And I thought, that's got to be clickbait
39:41
Speaker 4: for the Internet. Well, I went ahead and did it.
39:45
Speaker 4: I did all of those searches, same search term, just
39:47
Speaker 4: changing the religion. And then voila, I got the same
39:50
Speaker 4: exact result. So I started arguing with Google Gemini saying,
39:54
Speaker 4: you know, why are you so biased?
39:55
Speaker 6: And they're like, no, no, no.
39:56
Speaker 4: While it looks like we're biased, we're actually not. What
40:00
Speaker 4: happens is sometimes certain words will trigger. And I explained
40:03
Speaker 4: to them, the words are all there. There was nothing
40:06
Speaker 4: to connote a safety issue in any of them except
40:09
Speaker 4: for the word Christian. And they said, I could see
40:13
Speaker 4: how you could feel that way, right? Trying to validate
40:15
Speaker 4: my concern. But the reality was, and I argued with
40:17
Speaker 4: them until they admitted it. And I told him, you know,
40:20
Speaker 4: whenever I have a moment for free time, I argue
40:22
Speaker 4: with the AI to see how far I can get.
40:24
Speaker 4: And I used to get stuck. It would just give
40:26
Speaker 4: me a bunch of links and crash out. Now it
40:29
Speaker 4: goes a few more rounds in my debate, and eventually
40:31
Speaker 4: it will tell me I'm right. And they'll say, you're right.
40:34
Speaker 4: I won't have a way of knowing if a left-leaning
40:39
Speaker 4: Silicon Valley person programmed me. And what you're saying is
40:43
Speaker 4: entirely valid based on research that's gone into academia and
40:48
Speaker 4: into media and several major institutions in America. We tend
40:52
Speaker 4: to always focus on what they call the mainstream, which
40:56
Speaker 4: tends to be the left-leaning perspective. This is the battle
41:01
Speaker 4: that we're fighting in the culture, right? This is the
41:03
Speaker 4: battle that we're fighting in talk radio and on podcast
41:05
Speaker 4: and on television and in our daily lives. We're fighting
41:10
Speaker 4: for the truth. and this is truly a battle for
41:13
Speaker 4: truth and AI is, is going to help us.
41:16
Speaker 6: Social media is going to help us.
41:18
Speaker 4: People think that that is what is going to make
41:20
Speaker 4: it exponentially difficult. And that may be true in some part,
41:24
Speaker 4: but it also is true on the other side of
41:26
Speaker 4: that equation that we will in effect have the tools
41:30
Speaker 4: available to fight back.
41:32
Speaker 3: Right?
41:32
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at some of these fantastic ads
41:35
Speaker 4: that I've seen on social media about, um, disaffected Republicans
41:40
Speaker 4: going into the midterms because of gas prices or whatever
41:43
Speaker 4: and what have you.
41:44
Speaker 6: And they're excellent, right? I saw one of a big guy.
41:47
Speaker 4: Wearing like an American flag t-shirt saying, that's it, I'm
41:50
Speaker 4: never voting for you guys again because gas prices are
41:53
Speaker 4: $ 4 and something cents a gallon. And I don't care
41:56
Speaker 4: if kids get married to kids and if this happens,
41:59
Speaker 4: you know, and they go down the gamut of all
42:00
Speaker 4: the things that really matter to people. And I thought
42:03
Speaker 4: it was a really clever ad or, you know, commercial
42:06
Speaker 4: or whatever you want to call it.
42:08
Speaker 6: Meme video, and it seems to be effective.
42:12
Speaker 4: I don't know how effective we'll see when the midterms come,
42:14
Speaker 4: but those are tools that we have on our side.
42:17
Speaker 4: And if you've ever looked at any of the trolling
42:19
Speaker 4: that happens on social media, hands down guaranteed champions forever
42:25
Speaker 4: are the conservatives. Nobody memes better and trolls better than
42:29
Speaker 4: the conservatives do. Tom, thanks again for your call. I
42:31
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
42:32
Speaker 3: Mr.
42:32
Speaker 6: Producer, do I continue here? Do I pause here? Help
42:35
Speaker 6: me out.
42:36
Speaker 3: All right.
42:37
Speaker 6: I thought so. I'm going to take a pause right here.
42:38
Speaker 6: We're going to come back.
42:39
Speaker 4: We're going to continue our discussion talking about what President
42:42
Speaker 4: Trump had to say about the incident that occurred over
42:47
Speaker 4: Israel's air just yesterday.
42:49
Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere.
42:50
Speaker 5: This is America. This is America.
43:11
Speaker 4: Terror in the skies. There was a flight from fly Dubai.
43:17
Speaker 6: You've heard about it. You've seen the videos all over
43:19
Speaker 6: the internet. I know I have.
43:21
Speaker 4: And a crazy man with a knife jumped out and
43:26
Speaker 4: just started causing havoc. We got a couple of clips
43:29
Speaker 4: on this. Uh, I'm going to go with, uh, I
43:31
Speaker 4: guess the one that's a little bit more full, um,
43:34
Speaker 4: might be.
43:34
Speaker 6: A little longer, but bear with me.
43:37
Speaker 4: And, um, This is a clip from the Fox News
43:39
Speaker 4: channel earlier today describing exactly what happened in the sky.
43:43
Speaker 7: We started, it was like two and a half hours
43:46
Speaker 7: or two hours into the flight.
43:48
Speaker 10: We were only like one hour before we were supposed
43:51
Speaker 10: to land in Tel Aviv.
43:53
Speaker 7: And suddenly there was a big drop in the first flight.
43:59
Speaker 10: A couple of seconds or the first second, it felt
44:01
Speaker 10: like a normal air pocket that you sometimes have in flights.
44:06
Speaker 7: But then it became drastic. You really felt like the G-Force.
44:12
Speaker 10: It's like you do an extreme roller coaster.
44:16
Speaker 7: In an amusement park, if I want to. I think
44:19
Speaker 7: this is the best example.
44:21
Speaker 10: And all of the electricity in the airplane was shut
44:25
Speaker 10: off immediately. The air condition and multimedia just get shut off.
44:31
Speaker 10: After a couple of seconds, people start to shout. People
44:34
Speaker 10: that were sitting in the first couple of rows and
44:37
Speaker 10: in the business class that were close to the airport.
44:41
Speaker 7: To the pilot room.
44:42
Speaker 10: They started to shout that there's stabbing and that there's
44:46
Speaker 10: blood everywhere. And then they asked, like, all of everyone
44:53
Speaker 10: that can help, please.
44:55
Speaker 7: Join and come, like, immediately. And then we are really, really, really.
45:02
Speaker 10: Lucky that I think like 10 guys just jumped to help.
45:09
Speaker 10: Three or four of them actually entered into the pilot
45:14
Speaker 10: room and succeed to, like after a couple of minutes,
45:19
Speaker 10: succeed to control the situation.
45:24
Speaker 6: How's that? How's that for crazy?
45:28
Speaker 10: Right?
45:28
Speaker 4: You're sitting there on a flight. You're thinking it's going good.
45:30
Speaker 4: You're coming back from Dubai. Beautiful vacation. And, or business.
45:34
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, this crazy man, who
45:38
Speaker 4: happens to be the co-pilot, stabs the other pilot, or
45:40
Speaker 4: the pilot stabbing the co-pilot.
45:42
Speaker 6: Man, that is some insanity. God bless these guys. These
45:47
Speaker 6: guys are heroes. Right?
45:49
Speaker 4: Taking out the bad guy. And, let me tell you. This,
45:53
Speaker 4: and we're going to talk a little bit more about
45:54
Speaker 4: this in the next hour. And, hour number three. I'm
45:56
Speaker 4: going to get into a, a little bit more on, um,
46:00
Speaker 4: on the topics we've been discussing. Plus, uh, a little, uh,
46:03
Speaker 4: Lindsay Clancy, cause yesterday, uh, her lawyer was out there
46:06
Speaker 4: running the gamut, but to, to put a cap on this,
46:11
Speaker 4: this is, um, quite interesting because the prime minister today, uh,
46:18
Speaker 4: giving a very big hug. I see him giving a
46:20
Speaker 4: big hug, uh, to one of the men that helped him, man,
46:22
Speaker 4: that's a plumber. Um, but we have a clip of
46:26
Speaker 4: the prime minister today, um, translated of.
46:30
Speaker 6: All ways through AI.
46:32
Speaker 4: Number six, telling the passengers how that, excuse me, telling
46:36
Speaker 4: how the passengers neutralized the crazy pilot.
46:39
Speaker 6: Listen to this.
46:40
Speaker 11: During the flight, as they approached the country, one of
46:43
Speaker 11: the pilots stabbed the other pilot and apparently tried to
46:46
Speaker 11: crash the plane with everyone on board. I spoke with
46:50
Speaker 11: one of the Israeli passengers. He told me that the
46:53
Speaker 11: plane went into a spin and started to dive. He
46:56
Speaker 11: told me that somehow he managed to break into the
46:58
Speaker 11: cockpit with one of the crew members and together they
47:01
Speaker 11: neutralized the stabbing pilot while he was trying to sabotage
47:04
Speaker 11: the plane's systems. Another flight crew member who was on
47:08
Speaker 11: the plane entered the cockpit and managed to stabilize the aircraft.
47:12
Speaker 11: I salute these heroes who showed resourcefulness and extraordinary courage.
47:17
Speaker 11: They saved many lives. They prevented a major disaster. The
47:22
Speaker 11: plane landed safely at Tabuk Airport in Saudi Arabia. All
47:26
Speaker 11: passengers are out of danger. The stabbing pilot has been
47:30
Speaker 11: arrested and is currently being interrogated by the Saudi authorities.
47:37
Speaker 4: So that's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and explaining exactly what
47:41
Speaker 4: went down. And again, this is reminiscent, right? 9-11, what
47:44
Speaker 4: a crazy time that was. This was just one of
47:48
Speaker 4: those things where people said, you know what, enough is enough.
47:51
Speaker 4: And they're aware. And thank God it was the Israelis.
47:54
Speaker 4: And I say that because they're aware of the threat.
47:57
Speaker 4: I think too many people spend their time, you know,
47:59
Speaker 4: buying into what I'm going to call Nazi propaganda. People that,
48:04
Speaker 4: you know, for years they just love a good conspiracy
48:06
Speaker 4: and they love a good that people always want to
48:09
Speaker 4: have a bad guy. And for too many people and
48:13
Speaker 4: for too long, people, they take things at face value.
48:17
Speaker 4: You know, they hear something like, you know, for years
48:19
Speaker 4: I've heard people throw these tropes around like, oh, listen,
48:22
Speaker 4: you know. When you look at everything, you see Hollywood,
48:26
Speaker 4: you see it's bankers. Well, what do they all have
48:29
Speaker 4: in common? And they start making these faces like, look,
48:32
Speaker 4: I'm not saying nothing, but, you know, it's clear as day.
48:35
Speaker 4: And they're trying to insinuate that the Jews are somehow
48:38
Speaker 4: responsible for all bad things in life. And this could be,
48:42
Speaker 4: you know, nothing further from the truth. But the reason
48:48
Speaker 4: this gets to people is because People like a stereotype.
48:53
Speaker 6: People like a bad guy.
48:54
Speaker 4: If you start talking about the bad guys, then hey,
48:58
Speaker 4: they've got a bad guy that they can love to hate.
49:01
Speaker 4: And this, this is exactly where we are today. We've
49:05
Speaker 4: got anti-Semitism that, in my opinion, is out of control, right?
49:10
Speaker 4: I mean, A, you shouldn't even have it in control, right?
49:12
Speaker 4: To have anti-Semitism controlled is to not have it at all.
49:17
Speaker 4: But the Nazis are alive and well, and they're operating
49:19
Speaker 4: through the Iranians, through every last proxy group they've ever had,
49:24
Speaker 4: and it's a shame when you see people that you
49:27
Speaker 4: know or that you like subscribe to this stuff, and
49:30
Speaker 4: it's even worse when you see it actually happening. This
49:34
Speaker 4: pilot that was alongside the one from Dubai, the one
49:38
Speaker 4: from Oman, going nuts, stabbing the guy, and then.
49:41
Speaker 6: The other guy's beating the guy.
49:44
Speaker 4: Apparently everybody's alive and they're going to be able to investigate.
49:48
Speaker 4: But if this doesn't underscore the place that we're at,
49:53
Speaker 4: how hate is permeating the discourse publicly and internationally, I
49:59
Speaker 4: don't know what else to say. Because this is truly it.
50:03
Speaker 4: This is where we've arrived. So we're going to unpack
50:05
Speaker 4: that in the next hour. Plus, I sat down with Dr.
50:08
Speaker 4: Keith Abloh, the infamous psychologist, excuse me, psychiatrist. And we
50:15
Speaker 4: had a great interview. He had a couple of choice
50:17
Speaker 4: words about one of his patients. And you're not going
50:20
Speaker 4: to want to miss this one. We got that coming
50:23
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50:26
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50:27
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50:39
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50:43
Speaker 4: Where I want to start in this hour, in the
50:46
Speaker 4: power hour, is with the House. Cut number eight, the
50:50
Speaker 4: House passed a bill to deport illegal immigrants that have
50:53
Speaker 4: been convicted of any type of welfare benefits fraud.
50:57
Speaker 6: Listen to this.
50:58
Speaker 8: On this vote, the yeas are 231, the nays are 186.
51:01
Speaker 7: The bill is passed without objection.
51:04
Speaker 6: A motion to reconsider is laid on the table. Now,
51:08
Speaker 6: listen to that.
51:10
Speaker 4: 186 Democrats, I'm going to presume, voted against a bill
51:15
Speaker 4: that says if you're an illegal immigrant and you're convicted
51:18
Speaker 4: of benefit fraud, that you have to get deported. This
51:23
Speaker 4: is one of those bills that makes sense, that you
51:25
Speaker 4: would think, that's not already a law. Right, exactly my point.
51:29
Speaker 4: But yet, somehow, you've found Democrats that, 186 of them,
51:34
Speaker 4: that say, no, no, no, this is no good, no bueno.
51:37
Speaker 4: And one of those is none other than Senator Chris
51:41
Speaker 4: Van Hollen. Now, he didn't vote in the House bill,
51:44
Speaker 4: but he basically says deportations are racist.
51:49
Speaker 6: Listen to this.
51:50
Speaker 9: And I do want to start, President Barrett, with the
51:53
Speaker 9: observation you made about the target of the Trump administration's
51:59
Speaker 9: immigration policies, deportation policies, being primarily black and brown people.
52:05
Speaker 6: So listen. I saw this yesterday. I saw a clip.
52:08
Speaker 4: It's a Puerto Rican broadcaster that I follow on social media,
52:11
Speaker 4: who I respect, I like. I don't agree with his politics,
52:13
Speaker 4: but I think he's very good at what he does.
52:16
Speaker 4: And his name is Molusco, Spanish for mollusk. And he
52:21
Speaker 4: put a clip of a Puerto Rican guy in Orlando, Florida, Kissimmee. actually,
52:26
Speaker 4: to be more precise, who is, you know, bird dogging, harassing,
52:29
Speaker 4: you know, yelling at the ICE people that had somebody
52:32
Speaker 4: pulled over. And he's yelling at them. You don't have
52:34
Speaker 4: to show your documents. You don't have to listen to them.
52:36
Speaker 6: Roll up your window. Just drive away.
52:38
Speaker 4: And all of these things, again, I think are bad advice, right?
52:42
Speaker 4: And the guy's telling, hey, stop it. And then the
52:43
Speaker 4: other guy tells him in Spanish, he's like, look, just
52:46
Speaker 4: take it easy.
52:46
Speaker 6: We're doing our jobs over here.
52:47
Speaker 4: And he's like, shame on you for being an ICE
52:50
Speaker 4: person and being Hispanic at the same time.
52:52
Speaker 6: How dare you? And he got very indignant like Greta Thunberg.
52:55
Speaker 4: How dare you? How dare you? But anyway, they get
52:59
Speaker 4: into this back and forth. And then I look at
53:00
Speaker 4: the comments and everybody's like, oh, it's always the ones
53:03
Speaker 4: of your own kind that do it to you. And
53:05
Speaker 4: I thought to myself, does anybody else do this?
53:08
Speaker 6: Maybe they do.
53:09
Speaker 4: But I can't imagine anybody going, oh, yes, I stole
53:12
Speaker 4: a car. You know, I can't believe it. you know,
53:16
Speaker 4: the cop was the same race as me and he
53:17
Speaker 4: locked me up.
53:18
Speaker 6: Can you believe that? Like, of course.
53:20
Speaker 4: You don't get a pass because the cop is from
53:22
Speaker 4: the same place you are. Since when is that a thing?
53:24
Speaker 3: Right?
53:24
Speaker 4: That's not even a logical argument. But yet people want
53:27
Speaker 4: to say that and do that and make it seem like,
53:29
Speaker 4: you know, cops that are black are supposed to support
53:32
Speaker 4: blacks that are committing crime, cops that are Hispanic are
53:35
Speaker 4: supposed to support Hispanics that are committing crimes. I mean,
53:38
Speaker 4: the whole thing is bizarre to me, that logic. Where
53:40
Speaker 4: does that come from? It comes from guys like Senator
53:42
Speaker 4: Chris Van Hollen. When you're saying things like this, that
53:44
Speaker 4: the majority of deportations are against black and brown people.
53:48
Speaker 6: Well, again, interesting position to take.
53:51
Speaker 4: I'm thinking the immigration problem that we have in America,
53:54
Speaker 4: is it because of an overwhelming amount of Irish or Ukrainian?
54:01
Speaker 6: And I'm being snide.
54:02
Speaker 4: Some might say, yes, I'm sure there are people from
54:04
Speaker 4: those places, but I don't think that's the majority of people.
54:09
Speaker 4: If you ever rode a subway, I take the subway.
54:11
Speaker 4: I'm in New York City all the time. I took
54:13
Speaker 4: a subway the other day. I had a walk across
54:15
Speaker 4: that underground tunnel because it was ugly outside from where
54:21
Speaker 4: you get off the shuttle on Broadway over to the
54:24
Speaker 4: Port Authority side to 8th Avenue. And I must have
54:28
Speaker 4: passed three different women that were begging for money and
54:33
Speaker 4: every one of those women was Middle Eastern and had
54:37
Speaker 4: a sign and had little children next to her. And
54:41
Speaker 4: every one of the women that was with their children
54:44
Speaker 4: next to them that was Hispanic was selling fruit out
54:49
Speaker 4: of a shopping cart. Now, I don't know which ones
54:52
Speaker 4: are illegal immigrants and which ones weren't, but I would
54:56
Speaker 4: bet that they were all immigrants of some sort because
54:58
Speaker 4: they didn't look like they'd been here for a long time.
55:02
Speaker 4: And And I'm thinking to myself, if the streets of
55:06
Speaker 4: New York City are flooded with people that are asking
55:09
Speaker 4: for help, maybe we have an immigration problem. Maybe we're
55:13
Speaker 4: letting too many people in that can't support themselves. That's
55:17
Speaker 4: racist all of a sudden? I think that's a wild
55:21
Speaker 4: thing to say. And it's the same argument that they
55:25
Speaker 4: made in the video that I was watching. The guy says,
55:28
Speaker 4: he's like, bro, they're... He's like, they're Hispanic. Go bother
55:33
Speaker 4: somebody else. And I'm thinking, who are they supposed to bother?
55:36
Speaker 10: Right.
55:36
Speaker 4: I mean, don't we have a border with Mexico? Isn't
55:39
Speaker 4: there a bunch of people from Hispanic countries and others?
55:41
Speaker 4: I mean, during the Biden years, we saw them coming
55:43
Speaker 4: from Yemen. We saw them coming from everywhere.
55:44
Speaker 6: So I understand.
55:45
Speaker 4: But to make these claims, it just it doesn't really
55:48
Speaker 4: pass muster to me. It doesn't hold enough water.
55:51
Speaker 6: Anyway, A.G.
55:52
Speaker 4: Todd Blanche, he had a press conference today talking about.
55:57
Speaker 4: 10 different foreign nationals that have been indicted for fraud.
56:01
Speaker 6: What kind of fraud?
56:02
Speaker 4: The type that doesn't exist if you ask our friends
56:04
Speaker 4: on the left. We're talking about voter fraud, election fraud.
56:09
Speaker 5: Where?
56:09
Speaker 6: Minnesota. Listen to this.
56:12
Speaker 2: Today we are announcing that a federal grand jury. returned
56:15
Speaker 2: indictments against 10 foreign nationals alleged to have committed unlawful
56:20
Speaker 2: voting and registration offenses in the state of Minnesota. In total,
56:24
Speaker 2: the grand jury's indictments include nine counts of illegal voting
56:27
Speaker 2: by an alien and nine counts of making a false
56:30
Speaker 2: claim of citizenship in order to register to vote. Charges
56:34
Speaker 2: include illegally voting in the general elections of 2022, 2024,
56:38
Speaker 2: and the midterm, the primary elections of August of this year,
56:42
Speaker 2: of August 2026. The defendants that have been charged include
56:46
Speaker 2: foreign nationals from Brazil, Ghana.
56:50
Speaker 6: And Liberia.
56:51
Speaker 2: So we have talked repeatedly about the importance of election integrity,
56:56
Speaker 2: and we're certainly not going to stop talking about that now.
57:00
Speaker 2: Voter fraud erodes the public's trust in our electoral system,
57:04
Speaker 2: and it's vital to our democratic process that we do
57:07
Speaker 2: everything that we can to restore that trust. The most
57:10
Speaker 2: basic way the Department of Justice can accomplish this this
57:13
Speaker 2: restoration of trust is by working to make sure the
57:16
Speaker 2: only people voting in an election in the United States
57:19
Speaker 2: are American citizens who are eligible to vote.
57:22
Speaker 4: Oh, that's Attorney General Todd Blanchett. He's 100 percent right.
57:25
Speaker 4: And now where is Senator Van Hollen? He's going to say,
57:27
Speaker 4: you see, they're brown and they're black, right? Ghana, Liberia
57:31
Speaker 4: and Brazil.
57:31
Speaker 6: Brazil.
57:32
Speaker 4: So now we're supposed to say that the cops are racist.
57:36
Speaker 6: The DOJ is racist.
57:37
Speaker 4: AG Todd Blanchett is racist because these guys who did
57:40
Speaker 4: these crimes or allegedly did these crimes are from Brazil, Ghana,
57:44
Speaker 4: and Liberia, right? South America and Africa. This is why
57:47
Speaker 4: you can't play these games. These people are out of
57:50
Speaker 4: their minds and they will nitpick at anything to try
57:53
Speaker 4: and make it make sense. But honestly, this don't make sense.
57:56
Speaker 4: You can't sit there and expect that we're not going
57:58
Speaker 4: to prosecute voter fraud. The attorney general is 100% right.
58:01
Speaker 4: This erodes the public trust. People show up on election
58:05
Speaker 4: day because they believe that their vote counts. Even if
58:08
Speaker 4: Low key, they're like, man, my vote don't count. But,
58:10
Speaker 4: you know, cumulatively, I can make a difference. And yes,
58:13
Speaker 4: of course, every vote counts. That's why people do write
58:15
Speaker 4: ins sometimes on principle. Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen at that
58:19
Speaker 4: press conference today discussed how many voter fraud cases that
58:23
Speaker 4: they're currently investigating.
58:24
Speaker 6: Listen to this.
58:26
Speaker 12: We have over sixteen hundred voter fraud cases that we
58:31
Speaker 12: are currently investigating.
58:32
Speaker 6: Hold on a second. Wait a minute. I thought I
58:34
Speaker 6: thought we didn't have voter fraud.
58:37
Speaker 4: I watch CNN and they say that there's no conclusive
58:40
Speaker 4: reports of voter fraud.
58:41
Speaker 6: How could that be? Anyway, tell me how many more
58:43
Speaker 6: we have, Mr. Secretary.
58:45
Speaker 12: A thousand more that we're getting to. HSI is leading
58:50
Speaker 12: these investigations. These investigations are going back five years. The
58:54
Speaker 12: president has said it for a long time, and the
58:56
Speaker 12: Democrats were sitting there denying it and saying.
58:58
Speaker 6: There's no fraud.
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Speaker 12: That wasn't taking place.
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Speaker 6: There's no fraud.
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Speaker 12: There's nothing here. Don't look over here. As we're getting
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Speaker 12: the voter logs from 47 states.
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Speaker 12: And a few territories, we're realizing there's actually a lot.
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Speaker 12: And we believe that some of these states probably even
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Speaker 12: knew about it, chose not to look into it.
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Speaker 6: Well, we are.
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Speaker 12: And just a clear message, if you voted in our
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Speaker 12: elections and you weren't legally able to vote, we're.
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Speaker 6: Going to find you.
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Speaker 12: Might not find you today, might not find you tomorrow,
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Speaker 12: but we will find you. We're going through every single
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Speaker 12: one of these names.
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Speaker 6: Every single one of these names.
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Speaker 3: Listen.
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Speaker 6: 300,000 more cases.
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Speaker 4: They're currently investigating 1,600 and they have 300,000 more to go.
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Speaker 4: But this is something that doesn't happen if you watch
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Speaker 4: the fake news media. Now, listen, I don't mean to
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Speaker 4: sound partisan or bombastic. These are two extremes here, right?
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Speaker 4: When you have people in the media, the same media
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Speaker 4: that wants to have access to the White House to
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Speaker 4: report on this stuff, and they contort themselves into pretzels
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Speaker 4: to try and change the actual truth, to say there's
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Speaker 4: no substantiated evidence of voter fraud. That's not true. There's
1:00:07
Speaker 4: a bunch of allegations. They have to be investigated. And
1:00:10
Speaker 4: you have to do it conscientiously. You've got to really
1:00:13
Speaker 4: put effort into this. You can't just pretend that this
1:00:15
Speaker 4: stuff is happening. Because listen, you know what I always say.
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Speaker 4: You've got to stand for something. Because if you stand
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Speaker 4: for nothing, you'll fall for anything. And the only thing
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Speaker 4: necessary for evil to triumph is for good people like
1:00:27
Speaker 4: you to sit there and do nothing. So make sure
1:00:30
Speaker 4: you stand up and do something. Hasta la proxima.
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Speaker 6: Take care. Good night. And God bless you, America. I'm
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Speaker 6: Rich Valdez. And this is America.
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Speaker 5: This is America.