Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Polo G Speaks On Sobriety, Family Matters, Evolution As An Artist, New Album + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 3: Everybody's j Envy Jess hilarious, charlamage the guy. We are
- 0:09Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. We got our niece nolive with us today.
- 0:12Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Polo G. Welcomes.
- 0:16Speaker 3: How are you feeling, brother?
- 0:17Speaker 2: All good, new album dropping hood poet back outside for sure. Yeah,
- 0:22Speaker 2: we haven't seen you in a while.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Its been a minute.
- 0:26Speaker 3: It's been a minute. What took so long?
- 0:29Speaker 1: You know?
- 0:30Speaker 4: I went through a lot of things, you know, with
- 0:33Speaker 4: my music and just personally kept on derailing me. But
- 0:40Speaker 4: like you know, I'm actually like glad I went through
- 0:43Speaker 4: it a thing because I feel like I wouldn't have
- 0:44Speaker 4: got the product that I ended up with, and I
- 0:47Speaker 4: feel like it's the best one that I could have had,
- 0:50Speaker 4: and any yet that I would have dropped.
- 0:52Speaker 3: What we're going through. Was it like a writer's block
- 0:54Speaker 3: or you didn't know what sound you wanted or label.
- 0:59Speaker 1: All Leo? You know.
- 1:04Speaker 3: What about personally? He said, personally, was it gave you
- 1:07Speaker 3: the person?
- 1:10Speaker 5: Get into the new music?
- 1:12Speaker 2: Girl over here, get to the person.
- 1:15Speaker 3: When he said something, I really.
- 1:18Speaker 5: At first they told me like, oh, Polo G flipped
- 1:20Speaker 5: the Michael Jackson record, and I'm like, not, Mike, like,
- 1:23Speaker 5: how dare you? But then I actually really liked the record.
- 1:25Speaker 5: Were you not comfortable because it was a more like
- 1:29Speaker 5: mainstream poppy type record. I mean, it's still a rap.
- 1:32Speaker 5: But did you feel like you're going different from like
- 1:35Speaker 5: your core music or.
- 1:38Speaker 4: You're saying like with my new album, no, I feel
- 1:40Speaker 4: like I was definitely getting back to my core because,
- 1:43Speaker 4: like my project that I dropped beforehand, I was trying
- 1:46Speaker 4: to be more a little more mainstream versatile. But like
- 1:50Speaker 4: on this album, That's why I tiedled the hood poet
- 1:52Speaker 4: because I connected back with my rules.
- 1:55Speaker 2: What's the what's a hood poet to you?
- 1:58Speaker 1: It's like a spokesperson for the naghbor.
- 2:00Speaker 4: You know, person's really speaking on telling everybody's story at once,
- 2:05Speaker 4: not just you know.
- 2:07Speaker 6: How can you still relate to the hood, polo? I
- 2:09Speaker 6: mean you you live in large in l A. We
- 2:11Speaker 6: see you walking down Rodale Drive. You got a big
- 2:14Speaker 6: stack of money. Feel free to pass Uncle hunting if
- 2:16Speaker 6: you want to. But I'm I'm just watching, don't you
- 2:23Speaker 6: got it? But how can you still relate.
- 2:25Speaker 2: To the hood?
- 2:27Speaker 4: I mean, as where I come from, I'm always naturally
- 2:30Speaker 4: relate to them. You know, I still got close feelings
- 2:32Speaker 4: with like my family, friends, everybody that's still come from that.
- 2:36Speaker 4: You know, I'm really you know, I really come from
- 2:39Speaker 4: it for real, So I'm always Yeah.
- 2:42Speaker 3: You feel a bit of a survivor's remorse.
- 2:45Speaker 4: I feel like I do at times though, like overdoing
- 2:48Speaker 4: for people, feeling like damn, I know I was in
- 2:50Speaker 4: that situation before.
- 2:53Speaker 3: You to get caught up in the in the feeling
- 2:55Speaker 3: that you have to go back and help.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that's a good thing though, having
- 2:59Speaker 4: that type obligation or feeling obligated.
- 3:03Speaker 5: What is the acronym for hood poet uh Stanford?
- 3:07Speaker 4: He overcame obstacles during pain or emotional trauma.
- 3:13Speaker 2: So have you been exploring that, Like, have you been
- 3:14Speaker 2: talking to like a therapist, a counselor just.
- 3:19Speaker 4: I tried a few times. Yeah, I do want to
- 3:22Speaker 4: like make it more like a regular thing, but I have, like, yeah,
- 3:28Speaker 4: a few times.
- 3:29Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to find the right person therapists and
- 3:32Speaker 5: y'all walk in you you'll be consistent.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I feel like it is.
- 3:36Speaker 6: Because I saw a couple of months ago you posted
- 3:38Speaker 6: a drugs and liquor helped me cope with pain, but
- 3:41Speaker 6: I need better vices.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Have you found any better vices?
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:46Speaker 4: I really laid back off drinking. I ain't been drinking
- 3:49Speaker 4: for a little while. I won't say that long. It'll
- 3:52Speaker 4: probably been only like a month. But no, I'll be
- 3:55Speaker 4: really like working out a lot, I hope from time
- 4:02Speaker 4: to time, like I just try to do. I like
- 4:04Speaker 4: being by myself. I feel like that's a decent vice
- 4:07Speaker 4: if it is going. But like being by myself helped
- 4:10Speaker 4: me think clearly.
- 4:11Speaker 2: You ain't got no game.
- 4:17Speaker 3: You can't play basketball. I'm decent, can't test the net,
- 4:22Speaker 3: so you don't even know do anything.
- 4:24Speaker 2: I'm a three point specialist, not not even close. Now.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Hall of Fame was a number one album.
- 4:29Speaker 6: Did you set any expectations for yourself when you was
- 4:31Speaker 6: working on hood Port after having so much success with
- 4:34Speaker 6: Hall of Fame?
- 4:35Speaker 4: Definitely, Like first, like creating the album and coming off
- 4:40Speaker 4: of like my album being so big, the one that
- 4:45Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, Like at first that was my
- 4:48Speaker 4: main primary goal, but like after all the time, how
- 4:52Speaker 4: I went past. My biggest thing was just getting the
- 4:55Speaker 4: music out and just making sure it was like the
- 4:57Speaker 4: best music that I could put together, you know, and
- 5:01Speaker 4: really just trying to put my soul into it. But
- 5:04Speaker 4: definitely early on that was probably one of my primary focuses.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And then it's shifted.
- 5:11Speaker 2: I read somewhere too.
- 5:12Speaker 6: I don't know this is true, but you said, you know,
- 5:14Speaker 6: only rapping history to have every album go two times platinum.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 4: I think it was like at that time. I don't know,
- 5:21Speaker 4: I don't really know what what they meant by, but
- 5:23Speaker 4: I did see, Uh, what's the Twitter account. It's one
- 5:28Speaker 4: of my favorite hip hop daily the certifications?
- 5:31Speaker 1: Yeah, is that true?
- 5:33Speaker 2: If that's true, I just saw it and I was like, man,
- 5:35Speaker 2: that's interesting.
- 5:36Speaker 3: The certifications. They checked the numbers and everything on that site.
- 5:39Speaker 3: What I said, They checked the numbers and everything on
- 5:41Speaker 3: that site. He said, every album you put out is
- 5:42Speaker 3: going two times platin Yeah.
- 5:44Speaker 2: What does that look like? Money wise?
- 5:47Speaker 6: In your Podcastodet saying how they don't make the money
- 5:55Speaker 6: off the record.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Sales, I'm just wondering, like, yeah, I mean I can't
- 5:58Speaker 1: really relate to the oh.
- 6:03Speaker 2: You're getting the money off your records?
- 6:06Speaker 3: Would you rather go back to the days where it
- 6:08Speaker 3: was more independent? Because I realized this time around the
- 6:11Speaker 3: reason I asked, is usually the labels are recalled, but
- 6:14Speaker 3: I was getting calls from people outside like Polar want
- 6:16Speaker 3: to come to the breakfast club. I'm like whatever, but
- 6:18Speaker 3: it was it seemed like it was more of an
- 6:20Speaker 3: independent way of doing things opposed to actually going to
- 6:22Speaker 3: the label. So is that going back to the roots
- 6:25Speaker 3: and going back to where it started from the reason
- 6:27Speaker 3: you're doing it that way?
- 6:29Speaker 1: I don't give what you asks me.
- 6:31Speaker 3: So usually the label books you or the label calls
- 6:33Speaker 3: to get Polo G on the radio or whatever it is,
- 6:35Speaker 3: but this time was more of a personal relationship, which
- 6:37Speaker 3: was weird. So I was curious to if that's the
- 6:41Speaker 3: route that you want to go, more to an independent
- 6:43Speaker 3: route where it's going outside of the record label.
- 6:49Speaker 4: I'm always like collaborate with my label on ideas or
- 6:54Speaker 4: doing anything media wise, but I think it's definitely a
- 6:57Speaker 4: good thing to just create a good like team on
- 7:00Speaker 4: the inside to do a lot of the same things
- 7:03Speaker 4: that the label would do, just so you ain't so.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Dependent on them you feel like the label wasn't doing
- 7:06Speaker 3: enough for you.
- 7:08Speaker 4: No, I definitely don't think that like they step for me.
- 7:13Speaker 4: But like I said, it's really about building your own
- 7:16Speaker 4: personal team for sure.
- 7:18Speaker 2: What do labels do nowadays? Far as.
- 7:23Speaker 4: I feel like it's like a lot of groundwork that
- 7:25Speaker 4: they do, the things that you probably may not see,
- 7:28Speaker 4: you know, and just staying on point. And I know
- 7:32Speaker 4: I talk to my team to my label a lot
- 7:36Speaker 4: about like what I should do from an analytics standpoint.
- 7:40Speaker 6: I saw a lot of people saying they was wondering
- 7:42Speaker 6: why Little TJ isn't featured on the album.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Man, me and TJ, we just be having a lock in.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Brody just he be gone like probably eighty percent of
- 7:52Speaker 4: the year, Like you can never really get a hold,
- 7:55Speaker 4: but that's still my boy.
- 7:57Speaker 2: We locked in for the y'all be doing records, y'all
- 7:59Speaker 2: be in the studio together.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Like yeah, most of the time. That's like the only
- 8:03Speaker 1: rapper that I be in the studio with.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Like most of the time we I just sent a
- 8:07Speaker 4: track back and forth, like a lot of feature records
- 8:10Speaker 4: that I have. I never like, I probably had two
- 8:13Speaker 4: or three songs with a little Baby before I ever
- 8:15Speaker 4: met him in person. So me and TJ, we always
- 8:18Speaker 4: lock in. We got that chemistry together. Right after I signed,
- 8:24Speaker 4: they put us in the studio together. He had just
- 8:26Speaker 4: signed before me. And like we basically like grew up
- 8:30Speaker 4: together in the music industry.
- 8:33Speaker 6: Now, you know, while Good gave you a Donkey of
- 8:36Speaker 6: the day because you were saying that you were one
- 8:38Speaker 6: of the only rappers.
- 8:39Speaker 2: With no security, now you got all this June.
- 8:41Speaker 6: And the reason I was so disappointed because I'm like, yo,
- 8:44Speaker 6: Polo has always been one of the smart ones. You
- 8:47Speaker 6: walk around all the jury, you got money hanging out
- 8:48Speaker 6: your pocket. Why was you testing the streets in that way?
- 8:52Speaker 4: That wasn't like sometimes I feel like because I ain't
- 8:56Speaker 4: always all always out there, people don't know like when
- 9:00Speaker 4: I'm trolling or just playing around something like that. Onen't
- 9:03Speaker 4: no like I'm trying to entice nobody or trying to
- 9:06Speaker 4: puff my chest out.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I was just really borshit, like I.
- 9:09Speaker 4: Ain't even like, you know, I probably was four hours
- 9:13Speaker 4: away by the time I posted that, you know, like,
- 9:17Speaker 4: I ain't no goofy like that. I'll just be trolling stuff.
- 9:22Speaker 4: And that's something I've been doing since the beginning of
- 9:24Speaker 4: my career. Is just like I'll be forgetting that I'm
- 9:27Speaker 4: at a like bigger point in my career where people
- 9:31Speaker 4: would take down anything, and you know, so I that
- 9:35Speaker 4: was definitely a learning exp like something that I had
- 9:38Speaker 4: to learn to just be my mind.
- 9:40Speaker 5: For with hippod being your comeback project from the break
- 9:46Speaker 5: that you took, what is like the takeaway you want
- 9:49Speaker 5: people to get from.
- 9:50Speaker 4: This that I really put my all into the project,
- 9:55Speaker 4: that I took my time with it, because this the
- 9:57Speaker 4: longest it ever took me to drop a project in
- 10:00Speaker 4: my career. Like I was on the cycle of dropping
- 10:04Speaker 4: an album every nine months in the beginning of my career.
- 10:07Speaker 4: So like, with taking so much time, it had to
- 10:11Speaker 4: be the best shit that how I could create.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Were you nervous doing this album because you said that
- 10:17Speaker 3: you wanted to stop your vices, whether it was drinking
- 10:20Speaker 3: or drugs, So without using vices doing this or doing that,
- 10:23Speaker 3: where you were you thinking that maybe your mind couldn't
- 10:26Speaker 3: put out an album you couldn't rap without those vices.
- 10:28Speaker 3: With that a fair at all?
- 10:31Speaker 6: Uh?
- 10:32Speaker 4: Sometimes that's that's a thing, you know. Coming early on
- 10:36Speaker 4: into my career, like I like pills was my thing
- 10:39Speaker 4: a lot, and I made a lot of good.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Songs off drugs.
- 10:43Speaker 4: You would start thinking like, oh, that's the only way
- 10:45Speaker 4: I'm a and then like you, it's really just a thing.
- 10:49Speaker 4: A fine to yourself. No, I feel like now at
- 10:52Speaker 4: this point in my life, I make my best music
- 10:54Speaker 4: SOB And.
- 10:55Speaker 3: How did you get off those vices? How did you
- 10:57Speaker 3: finally went off and say I'm not doing this anymore?
- 10:59Speaker 3: Was it a scare, was it family? Was it management?
- 11:02Speaker 3: Or was it yourself?
- 11:03Speaker 1: It's always myself. It's definitely like.
- 11:10Speaker 4: Like like dealing with the like mental problems that come
- 11:16Speaker 4: with it, like you know, you know when you drink
- 11:18Speaker 4: too much and then it's like you're trying to pour
- 11:20Speaker 4: yourself out of that depression, all that darkness, Like going
- 11:23Speaker 4: through that and not wanting to be in that here
- 11:26Speaker 4: space again is what really made me straight away from.
- 11:29Speaker 6: You think you're trying to escape something, because you know,
- 11:31Speaker 6: when I listen to a record like you know, barely
- 11:33Speaker 6: holding on and you like, you know, definite, definite air
- 11:36Speaker 6: that should have leave you with a chilled spine, even
- 11:38Speaker 6: though my spirits down, like I'm okay, I feel fine.
- 11:40Speaker 6: Shots from that Still nine and from that Hillside, I'm
- 11:43Speaker 6: from the trenches where they just murder just to kill time.
- 11:47Speaker 6: Like it feels like you feel like you're dealing with
- 11:50Speaker 6: some real dark stuff on this albums. You feel like
- 11:52Speaker 6: you were doing all that just to try to escape.
- 11:55Speaker 4: Yeah, you said for show for shure, I feel like
- 11:58Speaker 4: that's it go hand in hand with the the just
- 12:02Speaker 4: the rapper lifestyle too.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Why you may.
- 12:05Speaker 4: Indulge in certain things, but I definitely feel like it's
- 12:10Speaker 4: an escape thing sometimes too.
- 12:11Speaker 6: Yeah, because on turning back you say I need some therapy,
- 12:15Speaker 6: Like you literally say that, So you're clearly self aware
- 12:18Speaker 6: that there's something going on.
- 12:20Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, And.
- 12:20Speaker 6: Even now having a common even talking to you now,
- 12:22Speaker 6: I feel like mentally you might be somewhere somewhere else.
- 12:27Speaker 2: You got a lot on your.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Mind always though, that's that's that's, that's just me.
- 12:32Speaker 6: Does it make these press runs even more difficult because
- 12:34Speaker 6: you know, you got to go out hand promote the album,
- 12:36Speaker 6: but then you're dealing with real life issues as well.
- 12:40Speaker 1: No, not really.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Press runs going to be a little difficult to me
- 12:44Speaker 4: because I ain't really like a person that like to talk,
- 12:47Speaker 4: so we know.
- 12:50Speaker 5: Also on the turning back you talk about how you
- 12:52Speaker 5: gave your heart to the streets and got nothing in return.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Where would you say.
- 12:56Speaker 5: Your heart is now?
- 12:59Speaker 4: My heart right now it's with my family, my son.
- 13:03Speaker 4: I love my son a whole lot, and that's why
- 13:06Speaker 4: I want to like, I ain't. I wouldn't say shift
- 13:09Speaker 4: my focus, but like be more attentive in that area.
- 13:14Speaker 6: Ole man he five, okay, okay, How fatherhood has changed
- 13:18Speaker 6: you because you're young?
- 13:20Speaker 2: He was a young pops.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Yeah, it changed me for the better, for sure. It'd
- 13:26Speaker 4: be teaching me patients. I'm a very impatient person, but
- 13:30Speaker 4: dealing with my son helped me, like, like learn to
- 13:36Speaker 4: be more patient and just see the beauty and life
- 13:38Speaker 4: for real.
- 13:40Speaker 6: I want to stay on the turning back record because
- 13:42Speaker 6: you talk about your brother and you said I missed
- 13:44Speaker 6: my Brosky through it all you was you was dead
- 13:46Speaker 6: for me? How is his absence affecting you on a
- 13:49Speaker 6: day to day basis? And and just what he's going
- 13:51Speaker 6: through because he's he was charged with murder, right.
- 13:55Speaker 4: I wasn't even talking talking about my my blood brother.
- 13:59Speaker 4: I was talking about my home be Money, who passed
- 14:02Speaker 4: away in twenty twenty one.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay.
- 14:05Speaker 4: And but definitely my my little brother. You know, we
- 14:08Speaker 4: was tight, We was close, So I speak to him.
- 14:11Speaker 4: I'll be missing him a lot though. That's like that
- 14:13Speaker 4: was my dog.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I mean, that is my dog.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Do you feel like that?
- 14:19Speaker 6: I don't want to say that's your fault with like
- 14:20Speaker 6: the wrapper lifestyle, letting them him maybe getting jammed up
- 14:24Speaker 6: like that.
- 14:26Speaker 4: I definitely wouldn't say that. No, you can't really call
- 14:29Speaker 4: it to be honest, to be totally honest.
- 14:33Speaker 5: And let her letter from my pops. You're talking about
- 14:36Speaker 5: how you don't want to let your son down, like
- 14:39Speaker 5: that is one of your biggest fears.
- 14:40Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, you did have your kid.
- 14:43Speaker 5: Once you got money, you up, So I don't, like,
- 14:46Speaker 5: what is the fear of that. You can take care
- 14:49Speaker 5: of yourself, You can take care of your family.
- 14:54Speaker 4: I just know how important it was to me, like
- 14:57Speaker 4: for my father to beat up for me, and like
- 15:02Speaker 4: definitely just be enough for my son an important thing
- 15:06Speaker 4: for me because I know like how much account to
- 15:10Speaker 4: put that time in. My pops was there for me
- 15:13Speaker 4: everything every point in my life, making sure we did
- 15:17Speaker 4: our homework, somethings simple as hanging your jacket up, playing
- 15:20Speaker 4: catch with you in the backyard, Like that's things a
- 15:22Speaker 4: kid gonna remember more than me being able to pay
- 15:25Speaker 4: for anything for my son.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's important for you to give your dad
- 15:29Speaker 2: his flower as well.
- 15:31Speaker 1: For sure.
- 15:31Speaker 5: That's him on the record.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Too.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.
- 15:35Speaker 2: What else did you learn from your pops?
- 15:37Speaker 6: Like I really want to know, like how to how
- 15:38Speaker 6: to have a father figure keep you from really, you know,
- 15:41Speaker 6: succumbing to the screeens of Chicago.
- 15:44Speaker 1: My pops he a really really wise person.
- 15:47Speaker 2: You know.
- 15:47Speaker 4: He always gonna give you the pros or cons to
- 15:51Speaker 4: any situation. Somebody that's real easy to talk to. I
- 15:55Speaker 4: feel like he kept me away from or out of
- 15:58Speaker 4: trouble a lot of times a lot of time, you know,
- 16:01Speaker 4: or just being that voice or reason you know, when you're.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Having a conversations with your son or interactions with your son.
- 16:07Speaker 2: What do you do that you like? Damn that that
- 16:09Speaker 2: was my pop. Pops did this for me.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Like, it's a lot of things I do.
- 16:15Speaker 4: I feel like it's similar to my poss We almost
- 16:17Speaker 4: like like the same person. Like I see that and damn,
- 16:22Speaker 4: then I think I do.
- 16:25Speaker 2: What's it?
- 16:26Speaker 6: What's your relationship now with your with your mother station
- 16:28Speaker 6: Mac because she was your manager.
- 16:30Speaker 2: She's not no more.
- 16:31Speaker 1: No, she's not my mother no more. You know, that's
- 16:33Speaker 1: my my ma. Mom.
- 16:35Speaker 4: Always loved my mama. You just probably ain't in the
- 16:38Speaker 4: best space right now on communicating terms.
- 16:43Speaker 1: But that's that's my I'm always.
- 16:45Speaker 3: How did you find your moms? How did that conversation?
- 16:48Speaker 3: But that had to be a tough one.
- 16:49Speaker 1: It was just a mutual thing, you know, it wasn't really.
- 16:54Speaker 5: Michael and Joe, Janet and Joe.
- 16:56Speaker 3: You gotta be a conversation because that's moms like you
- 16:59Speaker 3: go hard for you though you do, like.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Do y'all still communicating now?
- 17:05Speaker 1: Not often?
- 17:06Speaker 4: You know, it's still communication there. It's just not like
- 17:10Speaker 4: how it used to be. But I feel like that's
- 17:12Speaker 4: just a rough patch in our relationship that to get
- 17:15Speaker 4: back to where where it was.
- 17:16Speaker 6: When you see family public issues spill over the social media,
- 17:20Speaker 6: like you know, everybody saw the situation between your mom
- 17:23Speaker 6: and your sister.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Do you intervene or do you let them work that up?
- 17:27Speaker 1: For sure, I'm always intervening.
- 17:28Speaker 4: It's like I don't want to see no ship like that,
- 17:30Speaker 4: you know, so I'm always trying to get in between.
- 17:35Speaker 1: And before we go too far.
- 17:37Speaker 6: Too far, it was fighting and shooting Chicago, Chicago. I
- 17:42Speaker 6: might have to start at in Chicago with Florida, he said.
- 17:44Speaker 6: Before it go too far, it was fighting and shooting Polo.
- 17:48Speaker 6: That's normal to Chicago people.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Nor is it even something that can be worked out?
- 17:58Speaker 2: You think?
- 17:59Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure? We family. I mean, I like, I
- 18:03Speaker 1: feel like cuss who I am?
- 18:06Speaker 4: That's it's it's just being broadcasted more and like everybody
- 18:10Speaker 4: gonna talk about it. But every everybody family go through
- 18:13Speaker 4: go through ship like that shit I'm accustomed to.
- 18:16Speaker 3: I'm like minus to shoot, No, that's normal to him, y'all.
- 18:22Speaker 3: And how do you intervene because you can't pick a side.
- 18:24Speaker 3: It's like you almost got to just try to put
- 18:26Speaker 3: them both in the room and be like, listen, had
- 18:28Speaker 3: this conversation.
- 18:29Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's definitely the angle to take. Because my
- 18:32Speaker 4: sister a pretty hair strong person.
- 18:34Speaker 1: She had mother child, you know, so you definitely got
- 18:39Speaker 1: to be Have you tried that yet?
- 18:40Speaker 3: Have you tried to have to work it out on
- 18:42Speaker 3: the phone first, of course, because you don't want to
- 18:44Speaker 3: be in the room yet, but to try to get
- 18:46Speaker 3: their feelings out and squash it because they mom and daughter.
- 18:51Speaker 4: It's something that I want to get around to. But
- 18:53Speaker 4: I'm definitely letting them breathe a little bit more right now.
- 18:57Speaker 2: I just like, I just like the energy to y'all.
- 18:58Speaker 6: Bro, I always like the capital lot I liked watching
- 19:01Speaker 6: y'all as a family unit.
- 19:03Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 19:04Speaker 6: I just thought that was dope. Mom helped managing the
- 19:06Speaker 6: rapper Sun. I just thought that was dope. Now, now
- 19:10Speaker 6: you mentioned you grew anti social and you said it's
- 19:13Speaker 6: all it's y'all's fault.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Who is y'all?
- 19:16Speaker 4: Like just I ran through a lot of different friends
- 19:21Speaker 4: or just like people I was associated with, and it's
- 19:24Speaker 4: like I always go through a phase of having to
- 19:27Speaker 4: cut off a lot of different people. A lot of
- 19:31Speaker 4: people came and went in my life. So I feel
- 19:34Speaker 4: like that keep me even more stamped offish than I
- 19:36Speaker 4: was before.
- 19:39Speaker 5: To be fair, you also are evolving as an artist
- 19:42Speaker 5: and then you know in personal life and then like
- 19:45Speaker 5: public persona too. So some people are just there to
- 19:49Speaker 5: get you to your next phase.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way you look at.
- 19:54Speaker 5: But I want to talk about your creative process within
- 19:59Speaker 5: this project. Can you describe because.
- 20:01Speaker 2: You said this is the longest you know that it
- 20:03Speaker 2: took for you to put this together.
- 20:05Speaker 1: What was it like? Did you create on beat?
- 20:07Speaker 4: You know?
- 20:08Speaker 5: Was it more like poems because it is a hood poet? Like?
- 20:12Speaker 6: What was that?
- 20:13Speaker 1: I was?
- 20:14Speaker 4: Definitely I was locked in with a producer. I was
- 20:17Speaker 4: locked in with south Side on ato a Mafia, and
- 20:22Speaker 4: we got locked in for like two months and we create.
- 20:25Speaker 4: We made like a large bulk of the album in
- 20:28Speaker 4: them two months, like probably like let's say eight or
- 20:31Speaker 4: nine of the eighteen songs that's on the So we
- 20:34Speaker 4: was just building that chemistry and really went from there.
- 20:39Speaker 5: Who else was on the project besides eight A eight?
- 20:43Speaker 4: He got a he got a team of producers, soh uh.
- 20:46Speaker 4: Smat is one of his producers that I work real
- 20:49Speaker 4: closely with, and Atl Jacob on there. I got Ohs
- 20:53Speaker 4: from Chicago he on there? Who I'm missing? I don't
- 20:57Speaker 4: want to make nobody Mad.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Had a lot of producers on that.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Check the credits. Check the credits. Who did we a shoot?
- 21:05Speaker 1: That was? That was?
- 21:07Speaker 3: That's not how you pronounced it.
- 21:07Speaker 2: I'm sure we are shoot. I'm sure that's but that
- 21:10Speaker 2: is how spelled.
- 21:13Speaker 3: I don't know what.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Because they shoot, I don't know what that was.
- 21:19Speaker 3: We shoot it like, I don't know what that was.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I put like, that's how I talk.
- 21:25Speaker 4: I didn't want to put will like I think that
- 21:29Speaker 4: would have sounded weird or it would have been a
- 21:31Speaker 4: weird title.
- 21:32Speaker 2: That's in the hook, we got the guns, will shoot. No,
- 21:34Speaker 2: I ain't worried about what he'll do.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Are you ever nervous about that? Seeing what's going on
- 21:39Speaker 3: with young thug put stuff like that, rep like, damn,
- 21:41Speaker 3: I wonder if they could ever use this against me
- 21:43Speaker 3: at any time.
- 21:44Speaker 1: I'm not worried because I'm not doing nothing. I'm not
- 21:48Speaker 1: worried about.
- 21:50Speaker 6: Well, you did get arrested back in April. It was
- 21:53Speaker 6: a loaded firearm in the hotel room. I don't know
- 21:55Speaker 6: if it was yours, but all right, got you, Okay, okay, anti.
- 22:04Speaker 1: See.
- 22:04Speaker 2: But here's the thing. For coming from the street, you are.
- 22:07Speaker 6: You are a legitimate businessman now, so if it's not yours,
- 22:11Speaker 6: I feel like it's okay to say it's not mine.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I'm not to say who it is, but it ain't mine.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Apology A counselor will say, don't say anything until the courtation.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Did you see the discussion that Black TV was having.
- 22:27Speaker 6: What he was talking about, he got concerns about you
- 22:29Speaker 6: because he feels like you might have one foot in
- 22:31Speaker 6: the street. Still, what are your thoughts about people who
- 22:34Speaker 6: have those concerns.
- 22:37Speaker 1: That about me?
- 22:41Speaker 4: Like I said, I think they shouldn't have that concern
- 22:43Speaker 4: at all because I'm not doing I go to I
- 22:47Speaker 4: go home after I come from the studio.
- 22:50Speaker 1: No, I don't really ain't nothing too much going on
- 22:52Speaker 1: my life. I'm just you know, I'm just a rapper.
- 22:56Speaker 6: I feel like the brothers who survived the Streets Chicago,
- 23:00Speaker 6: they're literally like actual soldiers just because of everything that
- 23:05Speaker 6: they've experienced, the trauma or the PTSD and stuff. So
- 23:09Speaker 6: is it hard finding happiness now because you live a
- 23:12Speaker 6: great life? But is it hard actually being happy because
- 23:15Speaker 6: of all the traumas are your past and any things
- 23:16Speaker 6: you might still be dealing with that?
- 23:21Speaker 4: I think because I deal I feel like I cope
- 23:24Speaker 4: with it with that stuff pretty well because like it's
- 23:27Speaker 4: like like how we were saying, it is something that
- 23:30Speaker 4: becomes regular, Like I don't really I don't really be
- 23:33Speaker 4: too told off by like death or nothing no more
- 23:38Speaker 4: like so I be really able to accept a lot
- 23:41Speaker 4: of that stuff now. But I do have those moments
- 23:44Speaker 4: of survivors remre or just like my trauma's catching up
- 23:47Speaker 4: to me sometimes. But I feel like, all in all,
- 23:51Speaker 4: I cope with it well. I mean I got advice
- 23:55Speaker 4: that I didn't really touch on his music though, Like
- 23:58Speaker 4: I'm always hire that in my pockets, be able to
- 24:00Speaker 4: deal with my problem.
- 24:02Speaker 6: Are you accepting of it and just numb to it?
- 24:04Speaker 6: That's a difference, right, like learning to accept something and
- 24:07Speaker 6: just being numb to it.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Like a little bit of both, a little bit of both.
- 24:13Speaker 5: You said music is one of your vices. What are
- 24:16Speaker 5: some of the things you listen to to coe like
- 24:19Speaker 5: artists or even decades.
- 24:22Speaker 4: I like all types of music. I'm always on YouTube.
- 24:26Speaker 4: I like R and B music or just like I
- 24:29Speaker 4: wouldn't even consider it arm because like what what category
- 24:33Speaker 4: like sexy drill?
- 24:34Speaker 1: All on? That's like raping?
- 24:37Speaker 2: What the hell is sexy drills?
- 24:39Speaker 5: R and B?
- 24:39Speaker 1: But drill because I like that Kailani song. Yeah, yeah, I'm.
- 24:49Speaker 6: Saying they call it sexy drill? Why because you're killing
- 24:51Speaker 6: pussy literally drill be talked to some times that sexy woman.
- 24:59Speaker 5: It's called sexy drill.
- 25:00Speaker 1: We didn't name it. Men named it.
- 25:03Speaker 2: So not if you was with a man and you're
- 25:05Speaker 2: always setting the mood, No, do not put.
- 25:08Speaker 6: That on.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Setting the mood to sexy drill?
- 25:16Speaker 5: No not No.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I really don't really like that term like that, but
- 25:20Speaker 1: I just rock with it.
- 25:23Speaker 5: Yeah, I like.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Blad Also you face timed him, you said you want
- 25:29Speaker 6: to face to face, Like what what? Where did all
- 25:32Speaker 6: that start from? Like what is this?
- 25:33Speaker 2: Because you called him the FEDS?
- 25:34Speaker 1: Like blid Man. It was really a situation where.
- 25:43Speaker 4: I came across him and having a sit down and
- 25:49Speaker 4: my name came up, and blid had an issue with
- 25:55Speaker 4: me making a tweet responding to a tweet that somebody
- 25:58Speaker 4: made about him being of police, this before I ever
- 26:02Speaker 4: seen the interview about him being the police, and I
- 26:05Speaker 4: said some shited along the lines like I agree, you know,
- 26:08Speaker 4: and then we end up seeing each other in the bank.
- 26:10Speaker 1: He chopped it up with me. I really left it alone.
- 26:12Speaker 4: I ain't never say nothing about him since, but like
- 26:15Speaker 4: the way he was talking in an interview with actors,
- 26:18Speaker 4: like it was almost like he was I don't know,
- 26:22Speaker 4: like he still felt the way and he's saying that
- 26:25Speaker 4: he that I didn't never respond to him for an interview,
- 26:27Speaker 4: and it was like he just fake got to going
- 26:29Speaker 4: in and I didn't really understand that from a person
- 26:32Speaker 4: who had an issue with me speaking on him publicly.
- 26:34Speaker 4: So that's really where my issue came from. And I
- 26:37Speaker 4: trying I'm trying to talk to him like a man.
- 26:39Speaker 4: It ain't really no more to it. But then he
- 26:42Speaker 4: trying to remind me he fifty You should have known
- 26:45Speaker 4: that before.
- 26:45Speaker 1: He was speaking on me, though.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Y'all had an actual meeting.
- 26:53Speaker 1: No, he don't want Yeah, yeah he I ran into
- 26:57Speaker 1: him at the bank, so.
- 26:58Speaker 3: You pulled up on him, But he said, hey, I'm ladder.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Did you know it was him? As soon as you
- 27:01Speaker 3: see him.
- 27:02Speaker 4: I was in the line at the bank this like
- 27:06Speaker 4: during COVID time. He got his mask on, but I'm like,
- 27:09Speaker 4: you know, I looked back at him and I smiled,
- 27:12Speaker 4: you know, And that's when he was willing to engage
- 27:16Speaker 4: in conversation. I guess, you know, And we really it
- 27:20Speaker 4: wasn't really nothing. We just chopped it up about like
- 27:22Speaker 4: why he felt the way, you.
- 27:24Speaker 2: Know you said.
- 27:27Speaker 6: You also said in the song, you can't relapse off
- 27:30Speaker 6: these drugs, all right, Peter Juice, you really took your
- 27:32Speaker 6: last perk with juice? Could you say that in the
- 27:34Speaker 6: real You said I popped my last one with you?
- 27:37Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I haven't did that since really, how longer?
- 27:41Speaker 1: Was it? Like five years ago?
- 27:43Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, you remember that last experience outside of just
- 27:47Speaker 2: the drugs?
- 27:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember my last time just kicking it with Juice. Period.
- 27:53Speaker 4: He used to stay fifteen minutes away from me, so
- 27:56Speaker 4: I pulled up on I used to pull up on
- 27:58Speaker 4: him a.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Lot of time. He had hit me like, bro, just
- 28:00Speaker 1: pull up on me today. We don't.
- 28:02Speaker 4: We didn't record music a lot of those times. I
- 28:04Speaker 4: just were just kicking it together. So that was one
- 28:07Speaker 4: of those days.
- 28:08Speaker 2: What did Juice mean to the city?
- 28:10Speaker 4: A lot of Juice man, he like no, he a
- 28:12Speaker 4: rock star, like he different. He really separated itself from
- 28:16Speaker 4: the rest of the pack. I feel like he definitely
- 28:19Speaker 4: wanted a kind. A lot of people appreciate him, and
- 28:22Speaker 4: and it's like a good, like a dope thing, like
- 28:25Speaker 4: people coming from a lot of different upbringings that are
- 28:29Speaker 4: able to support or rock with Juice because like some
- 28:33Speaker 4: of his music, you would hear it and you wouldn't
- 28:35Speaker 4: naturally think people in the hood to play this, but
- 28:38Speaker 4: like people, everybody rock with Juice.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Bro.
- 28:42Speaker 6: Now you also got the you got a September eighteenth
- 28:44Speaker 6: reference on the album. Is that related to your your
- 28:47Speaker 6: late friend who?
- 28:50Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my other homies though Oie.
- 28:55Speaker 4: His name was t Gucci. He passed away. He passed away.
- 28:58Speaker 4: I was fifteen, he was sixteen.
- 29:00Speaker 2: He had got killed her.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Yeah he got killed.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Yeah damn much that much deafine? Have you experienced? You
- 29:07Speaker 2: even know what grief feels like.
- 29:10Speaker 1: I know what grief feel like.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Uh, I went through I went I dealt with death
- 29:16Speaker 4: closely a lot, since I was like a lookle kid,
- 29:18Speaker 4: like I like my first encounter with death for real
- 29:22Speaker 4: or like a murder.
- 29:24Speaker 1: My my uncle died in a shootout. I was like
- 29:26Speaker 1: nine years old.
- 29:27Speaker 4: That was like my first real experience dealing with that
- 29:30Speaker 4: and ever since then, that's like what I've been going through.
- 29:33Speaker 3: So so you don't feel pain anymore. It's just this
- 29:36Speaker 3: feels natural now.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely feel pain still. I'm a human, but.
- 29:43Speaker 4: I just don't really read too much into it because
- 29:45Speaker 4: I know, you know, people live in certain lives, this
- 29:48Speaker 4: will come with it.
- 29:51Speaker 2: So what adjustments do you not not even what adjustments?
- 29:54Speaker 2: What do you feel your duty is to your community?
- 29:58Speaker 6: Is it to make records like we a shoot or
- 30:00Speaker 6: is it to say, you know what, I got to
- 30:01Speaker 6: say something to help the next generation be better?
- 30:05Speaker 4: I definitely in my music, I definitely dabble between the two.
- 30:09Speaker 4: But primary like if you know Polo G as an artist,
- 30:13Speaker 4: like most of the time I'm speaking on the problems
- 30:15Speaker 4: or like telling you how this is messed up, or
- 30:18Speaker 4: that I could connect with you on the level I've
- 30:19Speaker 4: been through something too. I feel like my main priority though,
- 30:24Speaker 4: in my community specifically, is just getting a hold of
- 30:26Speaker 4: the kids. You know, like everybody who've been in the
- 30:29Speaker 4: streets or have their own path and they adults like
- 30:35Speaker 4: it's hard to patch them relationships up, Like you know,
- 30:38Speaker 4: people pushing peace now and trying to patch them, but
- 30:42Speaker 4: like everybody ain't gonna hide that same mindset. It's the
- 30:45Speaker 4: best thing to do is go get a hold of
- 30:47Speaker 4: the youth before they get too deep into some type
- 30:50Speaker 4: of issue.
- 30:51Speaker 6: Once once bodies start dropping, it's hard to just go
- 30:54Speaker 6: back and be like yeah, okay, we're good now.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it. I totally get it.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Let's get into a joint off the album. Let's play
- 31:03Speaker 3: Hood Poet.
- 31:04Speaker 2: That's the one you want to play? What's the one?
- 31:06Speaker 2: What's the one? What's the single?
- 31:07Speaker 1: We all shoot? Lord?
- 31:15Speaker 3: All right, let's get it on. We will shoot with
- 31:19Speaker 3: the accent, I said, we will shoot with the accent.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Chart we are shoot.
- 31:25Speaker 3: You make Jamaica. They just make it Jamaica. We will shoot.
- 31:28Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Lub. We appreciate you for joining us.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Brother, I appreciate you. It's the Breakfast Lug.
- 31:31Speaker 3: Good morning, wake that ass.
- 31:33Speaker 1: Up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.