Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 91 Summerslam 2025 Night 2 Review
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Over fifty thousand. Don't don't you mean fans are expected tonight?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Ray it's gonna go along. Oh my goodness, what's gonna go?
- 0:10Speaker 2: Jimps, there's your fire boat with everyone? O, my god.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Were some of my post misleading?
- 0:29Speaker 1: Oh no, who got tonight shared?
- 0:32Speaker 4: Your did not fight?
- 0:36Speaker 5: By Yo?
- 0:41Speaker 6: That just happened right behind me. What's you think Night
- 0:43Speaker 6: two gonna bring? We ain't done yet, not even close.
- 0:52Speaker 6: Tonight we run it back. We won it laughs, one
- 0:57Speaker 6: more shot to shape the world. Let's shut it down
- 1:02Speaker 6: the only way we know how and lose our damn
- 1:07Speaker 6: minds doing it.
- 1:10Speaker 7: I'm corner. We can't even tell that. You go and.
- 1:19Speaker 8: No count outs, no di qualification, must be a winner.
- 1:33Speaker 7: You don't know?
- 1:37Speaker 3: Tell me what they're talking about me?
- 1:39Speaker 7: Listen there, let's swell your mother.
- 1:43Speaker 9: From the South.
- 1:44Speaker 7: Virginia with my mother twins.
- 1:46Speaker 9: When I can't take a little MOOI going.
- 1:48Speaker 7: From the wind.
- 1:49Speaker 5: You got to ride a pool. Get out your cameras.
- 1:55Speaker 5: You're gonna want to remember this moment.
- 2:00Speaker 7: Because that's wee getting indepan you.
- 2:04Speaker 5: So we're getting wild. I'm crazy, man, I'm a slam
- 2:07Speaker 5: night too. We are here. Hey, this is w W
- 2:17Speaker 5: E and E c W alumni. Look blue meanie and
- 2:20Speaker 5: you're listening to pc W. The question is, oh, you
- 2:32Speaker 5: let me talk. I will give you a show like
- 2:36Speaker 5: you have never recovered streamed before.
- 2:39Speaker 9: A why because I can't.
- 2:42Speaker 5: What do you guys want to talk about? And the
- 2:56Speaker 5: colored red in a world with a black and white.
- 3:02Speaker 4: Either of the world. Yeah, the cha?
- 3:24Speaker 5: What's up?
- 3:25Speaker 10: Bad? Bad?
- 3:27Speaker 7: What?
- 3:29Speaker 5: Whoa why?
- 3:32Speaker 7: You know?
- 3:32Speaker 5: Back?
- 3:40Speaker 9: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, channlem all ages,
- 3:50Speaker 9: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
- 3:54Speaker 9: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
- 3:57Speaker 9: and we are here for night to Electric Boogooroo of
- 4:00Speaker 9: Summer Slam. That's right. We had to do a two
- 4:03Speaker 9: episode for Summer Slam because it's now two nights, it's
- 4:08Speaker 9: extremely long. They were able to gather a grand total
- 4:12Speaker 9: of thirteen and twenty two people over the weekend and
- 4:18Speaker 9: we're gonna get into that, but first let me bring
- 4:21Speaker 9: in my co host.
- 4:24Speaker 7: Oh, I might have been telling you now.
- 4:32Speaker 5: It's just me okay, dang, just me.
- 4:38Speaker 9: Day chuck me.
- 4:39Speaker 4: Okay, d a lot of lack of bad luck.
- 4:44Speaker 5: Daddy, it's on me now.
- 4:50Speaker 7: I only get them all.
- 4:51Speaker 4: I want to get them all.
- 4:57Speaker 7: Oh you.
- 5:02Speaker 9: Welcome back to the show, yo, Yo?
- 5:06Speaker 5: What it do?
- 5:07Speaker 11: Pc W crew once again for night too main event
- 5:10Speaker 11: rate USO is on your podcast.
- 5:15Speaker 9: That is all right, Let's get right to it, man,
- 5:19Speaker 9: Let's bring him on out. Let's get him here we go?
- 5:23Speaker 9: Where is he at?
- 5:27Speaker 5: You better wash our.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Wash out, don't get yours for.
- 5:52Speaker 5: You better wash out your last shaft.
- 6:00Speaker 9: Caution style.
- 6:03Speaker 7: It means hopefully my voice holds up so.
- 6:09Speaker 12: Little under the weather, but I should be on the
- 6:11Speaker 12: last day, and I hope, hopefully, hopefully we make it through.
- 6:16Speaker 9: You got that Summer Slam flu?
- 6:19Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a fever and the only description sports entertainer.
- 6:25Speaker 9: Oh if you got a fever? What a coincidence? Because
- 6:28Speaker 9: the next pay per view is NXT heat Wave.
- 6:32Speaker 7: Oh what about that?
- 6:33Speaker 9: I know right, we're like already going into Clash in Paris.
- 6:39Speaker 9: That's what's after heat Wave. Yeah, I mean, I mean
- 6:47Speaker 9: Summer Slam overall wasn't wasn't bad. I mean for two nights,
- 6:51Speaker 9: not as much of a build up as we get
- 6:54Speaker 9: for wrestling in it, which is almost like sometimes a
- 6:56Speaker 9: whole year for some of these feuds. Uh, Like we
- 7:00Speaker 9: said this kind of felt rushed, you know, putting this
- 7:04Speaker 9: card together. Some matches were built, some stores.
- 7:07Speaker 12: Reminded me, kind of reminded me when a band releases
- 7:11Speaker 12: a double album, right, and it's like he took half
- 7:15Speaker 12: of the songs off the first album and half of
- 7:17Speaker 12: the songs of the second album, made them one album.
- 7:20Speaker 7: It would have been a great album. Yeah, I kind
- 7:24Speaker 7: of how I felt them out time.
- 7:26Speaker 5: It's it would have made a great way to describe it.
- 7:30Speaker 13: We could have made a great, like like seven match
- 7:34Speaker 13: card out of these two nights, but instead we were
- 7:39Speaker 13: kind of watering it down a little bit.
- 7:42Speaker 5: That's what happens when we chased the dollars.
- 7:50Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, uh yeah, you got they had like
- 7:54Speaker 9: a couple more thousand Night two there. Night one is
- 7:57Speaker 9: fifty three and sixty one, Night two sixty and sixty one,
- 8:03Speaker 9: so a lot more people decided on those one one
- 8:05Speaker 9: night tickets. They were gonna go Night two. I mean,
- 8:09Speaker 9: I guess that's that's how it normally is, right, You're
- 8:11Speaker 9: gonna always go night two if you can only buy
- 8:14Speaker 9: one ticket.
- 8:15Speaker 5: Well, I guess it kind of makes well.
- 8:20Speaker 11: I guess, I mean one night too has the bigger
- 8:22Speaker 11: main event that everybody that's really selling the show, the
- 8:26Speaker 11: code has seen a match, So it makes sense that
- 8:28Speaker 11: more people are gonna attend night two than night one.
- 8:31Speaker 11: I mean that's kind of how Wreussellmania always works too.
- 8:33Speaker 11: You have a bigger audience on the second night than
- 8:35Speaker 11: you do the first night.
- 8:37Speaker 9: Yeah, So would you guys call this success.
- 8:43Speaker 7: Again?
- 8:43Speaker 5: I guessed it.
- 8:44Speaker 9: Would you guys consider this a success.
- 8:49Speaker 5: Summer Slam, Yeah, well they would.
- 8:51Speaker 12: I mean, they made more money than they've ever made before,
- 8:53Speaker 12: so they would, and I think that's that's all they
- 8:56Speaker 12: care about.
- 8:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.
- 9:00Speaker 7: As a fan, I'm not sure.
- 9:02Speaker 12: I mean they're talking about morya Rumble, two nights, Survivor
- 9:05Speaker 12: Series two nights, money in the back.
- 9:07Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know that. I'm like forward to that,
- 9:12Speaker 7: you know, like I went to.
- 9:13Speaker 12: Mania being two nights, Okay, It's fine. Whi's been a
- 9:17Speaker 12: couple of years now.
- 9:17Speaker 7: I'm used to it.
- 9:18Speaker 12: But I don't need if I don't know if I
- 9:20Speaker 12: need six weekends a year taking off you know, right, man,
- 9:27Speaker 12: that's a lot your whole day, you know what I mean?
- 9:31Speaker 9: Yeah, it kind of does. It kind of just fucks
- 9:33Speaker 9: it right in the middle too. You know, like you
- 9:35Speaker 9: could have plans and you're like, no, I gotta watch like,
- 9:38Speaker 9: you know, two nights a SummerSlam and then like we're
- 9:41Speaker 9: all right after that, and if I don't't, I'll feel
- 9:44Speaker 9: so lost.
- 9:47Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well there's so many it's like the
- 9:49Speaker 7: whole thing. There's so much stuff, so much content, it's ridiculous.
- 9:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 9:54Speaker 11: I mean from the moment they announced that Summerstand was
- 9:57Speaker 11: going to be two nights, I was never opposed to
- 9:59Speaker 11: it because I always felt that if there was any
- 10:02Speaker 11: pl that warranted two nights outside of WrestleMania, it's gonna
- 10:07Speaker 11: be their second biggest one, which is Summer Slam. So
- 10:09Speaker 11: I never was opposed to it being two nights, and
- 10:13Speaker 11: even after this, I'm still not opposed to a two
- 10:18Speaker 11: nights Summer Slam. But I do think they need to
- 10:21Speaker 11: seriously evaluate how much more they want to push this
- 10:26Speaker 11: two night thing. Like I definitely don't think Royal Rumble
- 10:29Speaker 11: needs to be two nights. I don't think Money in
- 10:32Speaker 11: the Bank or Survivor Series or any of those need
- 10:34Speaker 11: to be two nights. I think if you extend that
- 10:38Speaker 11: to more pls one it becomes less special and then
- 10:40Speaker 11: it just clearly becomes about greed, which at this point
- 10:44Speaker 11: we probably shouldn't be surprised by tko wwe pursuing greed.
- 10:49Speaker 11: But this did this live up to the two night
- 10:54Speaker 11: hype and that regard, I'm probably gonna say no, it
- 10:59Speaker 11: did not, just because a lot of this, just as
- 11:04Speaker 11: Duill you know, describe, a lot of this could have
- 11:06Speaker 11: been left out. We could have had probably one night
- 11:10Speaker 11: of a really great summer Slam, but it's there, we
- 11:13Speaker 11: got too, okay to good nights.
- 11:18Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great that Sammy and carry Across gone on
- 11:21Speaker 7: pay per view.
- 11:22Speaker 12: That's objectively a good thing. But to what end, I
- 11:25Speaker 12: mean approximately, who the hell knows what's going on with him.
- 11:28Speaker 12: It's just like it it didn't do anything. It didn't
- 11:30Speaker 12: serve any per it didn't advance anything, you know. And
- 11:35Speaker 12: this whole notion that like, because it's a big event,
- 11:39Speaker 12: something we need to invent some monumental thing to happen,
- 11:43Speaker 12: you know, be it you know, shocking return, which we'll
- 11:47Speaker 12: get to, or you know, the revelation that Seth's injury
- 11:51Speaker 12: wasn't real or whatever. It's just like, sometimes why can't
- 11:53Speaker 12: we let the wrestling sometimes speak for itself and have
- 11:56Speaker 12: a big moment that happens in the ring. Just be
- 11:59Speaker 12: a big moment and let that be the Obama instead
- 12:01Speaker 12: of having an event something else.
- 12:04Speaker 7: Oh wait to match it over. But then there's all
- 12:06Speaker 7: this stuff. You know, it's like the Marvel after credit sye.
- 12:11Speaker 7: It don't come anywhere. It's with the health of point.
- 12:13Speaker 7: Can't we can't we focus on.
- 12:14Speaker 12: The wrestling being the story instead of the thing that
- 12:18Speaker 12: happens next to the story.
- 12:19Speaker 7: You know what I mean, at least one of the nights.
- 12:24Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that point.
- 12:25Speaker 11: And I do think if there's any takeaway from this
- 12:28Speaker 11: that or anything that w W should take away from this,
- 12:31Speaker 11: is that if you're going to have a two night show,
- 12:35Speaker 11: it needs to really be worth it on both nights,
- 12:37Speaker 11: and that needs to be reflected in both the end
- 12:40Speaker 11: ring product and the build up, because I think the
- 12:43Speaker 11: one thing that this Summer Slam definitely suffered from was
- 12:47Speaker 11: a lack of build up. And that's just the further
- 12:51Speaker 11: that's just the domino effect of all the pls that
- 12:54Speaker 11: they crammed into May and June and July two to
- 13:00Speaker 11: three weeks that didn't leave you enough time to make
- 13:03Speaker 11: a proper build up for a two night Summer Slam,
- 13:06Speaker 11: so you had to go off of shock value and
- 13:09Speaker 11: returns and cramming stuff in at the last minute, whereas WrestleMania,
- 13:16Speaker 11: the build for that starts months in advance, they advertise it,
- 13:20Speaker 11: they build it up that way. The road to WrestleMania
- 13:23Speaker 11: starts at what the Royal Rumble. Now, we're not going
- 13:27Speaker 11: to go back in, you know, relitigate how that build
- 13:30Speaker 11: up was this year, but typically in the past it's worked.
- 13:33Speaker 11: If they're gonna do this for Summer Slam and have
- 13:35Speaker 11: this two night thing, they need to start. They need
- 13:38Speaker 11: to consider following a similar path a road to SummerSlam,
- 13:42Speaker 11: and let that start with something. I thought they were
- 13:45Speaker 11: onto something pretty good last year when they were doing
- 13:48Speaker 11: when they had the King and Queen of the Ring
- 13:50Speaker 11: and that led to matches at SummerSlam. That seemed like
- 13:53Speaker 11: a good foundation to build upon, especially going into this
- 13:58Speaker 11: two night format that they were going to do this year.
- 14:02Speaker 11: But they just seemingly, I mean, they still had it,
- 14:07Speaker 11: but they didn't build on it. If anything, they took
- 14:10Speaker 11: more of a step back with King and Queen of
- 14:12Speaker 11: the Ring this year than they did last year. It
- 14:15Speaker 11: didn't have its own pol it was just part of
- 14:19Speaker 11: a show, and from there it was barely even brought
- 14:24Speaker 11: up anymore. So there's definitely hopefully they take some take
- 14:31Speaker 11: away some lessons from this and don't just look at hey,
- 14:34Speaker 11: look at all the money we made.
- 14:37Speaker 5: Nothing to fix here.
- 14:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 14:40Speaker 12: Well, another thing about this card, and I think I
- 14:42Speaker 12: mentioned it on the last episode, is that.
- 14:46Speaker 7: The placement of some of these matches made no sense
- 14:48Speaker 7: to me. Let's night two and we'll get into it.
- 14:50Speaker 5: Request.
- 14:51Speaker 7: I think five of the six matches were no DQ matches,
- 14:55Speaker 7: right or whatever. It is, like, why couldn't we spread
- 14:58Speaker 7: that out a little?
- 14:59Speaker 12: Like and I mean obviously momentarily we'll talk about the
- 15:02Speaker 12: triple threat to start the show, which is great.
- 15:04Speaker 7: And luckily didn't get into weapons use.
- 15:07Speaker 12: But it's just like by the time that the last
- 15:10Speaker 12: match came around, it's just like I've seen enough people
- 15:12Speaker 12: get hit with chairs and get thrown two tables, and
- 15:15Speaker 12: like we've seen that all night already, Like it stops
- 15:19Speaker 12: losing its effectiveness if you if you load all the
- 15:22Speaker 12: weapons matches together. So that was another another another oddity
- 15:27Speaker 12: I found with the construction.
- 15:28Speaker 5: Of the card.
- 15:30Speaker 11: Definitely crammed all the gimmick stipulation matches into this night
- 15:35Speaker 11: and left Night one Bear.
- 15:38Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, very true. I'm looking. I'm looking in comparison
- 15:43Speaker 9: right now, just singles matches. Well, we had those crazy
- 15:48Speaker 9: stipulations for Sammy's A and carrying.
- 15:50Speaker 13: Cross, yes, which did not cover in fruition whatsoever, all
- 15:55Speaker 13: the shit.
- 15:58Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, Well, do you guys want to get
- 16:02Speaker 9: into this, Yeah, into this sweet sweet triple threat that
- 16:08Speaker 9: we were discussing at the opening of the show, Go Ahead,
- 16:11Speaker 9: Dre take Over.
- 16:13Speaker 11: Yep, that is what kicked off night too, our triple
- 16:16Speaker 11: threat match for the Women's World Championship with Naomi the
- 16:20Speaker 11: champion defending against Ria Ripley.
- 16:24Speaker 5: And EO Sky. This match probably could have been do
- 16:33Speaker 5: I want to say? Yeah?
- 16:34Speaker 11: This match probably could have been match of the night
- 16:36Speaker 11: had it not been for the main event. This was
- 16:38Speaker 11: a really good match that went back and forth like
- 16:42Speaker 11: a mug. Everybody got their moments to shine, and we
- 16:47Speaker 11: got a satisfying win from Naomi almost how I predicted it,
- 16:53Speaker 11: but not quite. But she did get the pin on
- 16:58Speaker 11: Rhea a bit to my A bit to my surprise.
- 17:02Speaker 11: I think I had predicted somewhere that Rio was gonna
- 17:07Speaker 11: have Eo defeated what she did. And I thought Naomi
- 17:12Speaker 11: was going to take out Rhea and pin Eo to retain,
- 17:15Speaker 11: but instead she just snatched up Riha with a roll
- 17:19Speaker 11: up and got health the tights and got the pin.
- 17:23Speaker 11: So one, we got Naomi retaining, which was good. I
- 17:28Speaker 11: like that she retained and mean, and this wasn't she
- 17:31Speaker 11: wasn't treated as a transitional champion just to get it
- 17:33Speaker 11: on a bigger name.
- 17:34Speaker 5: I e Rhea. I'm glad that Ria actually took the pen.
- 17:39Speaker 5: That was good props to her.
- 17:43Speaker 11: And we're also continuing the whole fact that Rhea has
- 17:46Speaker 11: never defeated Eo Sky.
- 17:48Speaker 5: So this match was a win all around for me.
- 17:51Speaker 5: I loved it. Were you had on this one, Wayne.
- 17:54Speaker 9: This is a great opening mess. I mean, let's let's
- 17:57Speaker 9: talk about how Naomi got, you know, play in her
- 18:01Speaker 9: entrance her father that that was that was awesome, right,
- 18:06Speaker 9: Like what a moment. And I was just like jamming
- 18:09Speaker 9: out to it. I was like, oh man, that's pretty
- 18:10Speaker 9: good hearing it played live like this, you know, I
- 18:16Speaker 9: you know, normal triple threat matches, right, there's always gonna
- 18:19Speaker 9: be an alliance of some kind, right, And and we
- 18:22Speaker 9: did see a little bit for sut amount of time
- 18:26Speaker 9: against Naomi the you know, the odds are stacked Dancer,
- 18:29Speaker 9: but uh, you know, just a little mishap and and
- 18:32Speaker 9: have Naomi ducking and then you got real you know,
- 18:36Speaker 9: knocking out Eo. But let's not forget ladys and gents.
- 18:39Speaker 9: This is a triple threat, so you know, everyone's to shock, like,
- 18:43Speaker 9: oh my god, now what now? Now we fight because
- 18:46Speaker 9: this is a triple threat match. I'm glad the Alliance
- 18:48Speaker 9: ended pretty early. When it did, we got to see uh,
- 18:53Speaker 9: you know, Sky do a six to one nine, which
- 18:56Speaker 9: I thought was pretty cool. I didn't see that coming.
- 18:59Speaker 9: And it looks like more than or people are starting
- 19:00Speaker 9: to use the six one nine. Uh maybe because Rage
- 19:03Speaker 9: is not around it anymore. I guess, I guess it's
- 19:06Speaker 9: open for other wrestlers to use.
- 19:08Speaker 7: Uh.
- 19:12Speaker 9: I mean, just these three individuals in the ring, they're
- 19:16Speaker 9: they're very good, very very good, and they were able
- 19:19Speaker 9: to keep us well entertained and pretty damn well energized.
- 19:23Speaker 9: The beginning of the show, you know, we got to
- 19:27Speaker 9: see uh Rhea take she took uh Eo to the
- 19:34Speaker 9: top rope to do a rip tide from the top rope.
- 19:37Speaker 9: I thought that was pretty impressive. EO doing a moon
- 19:40Speaker 9: salt outside of the ring. That was pretty cool. I
- 19:44Speaker 9: mean typical heel fashion. How I saw this triple thread
- 19:47Speaker 9: kind of ending with you know, a roll up, somebody
- 19:50Speaker 9: doing all the work and then the heel, the heel
- 19:53Speaker 9: champion coming in and doing the roll up. I mean
- 19:57Speaker 9: I would have done the same thing, right, I mean,
- 20:00Speaker 9: why not so Doyle?
- 20:07Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think we all think that this
- 20:09Speaker 7: match was wonderful. It was really good.
- 20:12Speaker 12: I think Naomi definitely proved that she can hang with well,
- 20:17Speaker 12: he know, I think it be hard pressed to find
- 20:21Speaker 12: to say anybody's a better women's wrestler right now in
- 20:24Speaker 12: the company than EO and Rhea is in the top
- 20:27Speaker 12: three or four. Naomi proobs she's right there with him.
- 20:31Speaker 7: So yeah, that was that was good. The entrance was great.
- 20:34Speaker 12: I thought, you know, you said triple threat match, and
- 20:37Speaker 12: there are you know, all these no DQ matches. I'm
- 20:39Speaker 12: glad they didn't go crazy with weapons in this one
- 20:42Speaker 12: because we just have so much of it the rest
- 20:44Speaker 12: of the night. Yeah, I mean they really did a
- 20:47Speaker 12: lot of great storytelling. It didn't oversay. It's welcome like
- 20:51Speaker 12: another women's match. We will talk about a little later,
- 20:54Speaker 12: definitely did. I think it was like around fifteen minutes, right,
- 20:59Speaker 12: And I could have certainly taking another fifteen more of
- 21:01Speaker 12: these three going at it, but that was just about
- 21:04Speaker 12: the perfect amount of time, not too short, not too long,
- 21:08Speaker 12: you know, too much of a good thing. Definitely saying
- 21:12Speaker 12: you know, let's less sometimes is more. So Yeah, definitely
- 21:16Speaker 12: it kept the kept the rear kind of thing hot.
- 21:22Speaker 7: Company.
- 21:22Speaker 12: I think last time suggested that this go on for
- 21:24Speaker 12: years where Ria just can never be you know, I
- 21:28Speaker 12: don't know if that's gonna.
- 21:28Speaker 7: Happen, but it will be fun to see where that
- 21:31Speaker 7: when they go with that. Now you help me. Now,
- 21:34Speaker 7: it's certainly been in the dirt seats the last twenty
- 21:37Speaker 7: four hours, forty eight hours. You know, she missed her
- 21:42Speaker 7: scheduled match on Raw with the EO that she was
- 21:47Speaker 7: not cleared for.
- 21:48Speaker 12: Now there's all times of rumors swirling that she may
- 21:51Speaker 12: be out for quite a long time.
- 21:53Speaker 7: And you know what is the reason. Exactly a lot
- 21:57Speaker 7: of a lot of pregnancy rumors for the maybe not
- 22:02Speaker 7: so cautious.
- 22:05Speaker 12: During your title n but apparently written did Jimmy and
- 22:10Speaker 12: Naomi On Stephanie McMahon's podcast, tomorrow, which I will never
- 22:15Speaker 12: let but I will read about reading about what I
- 22:19Speaker 12: said the mander some answers there.
- 22:20Speaker 5: Tomorrow, but.
- 22:23Speaker 7: And ongoing intrigue coming out of this match, and that's
- 22:26Speaker 7: always good.
- 22:28Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll tune into the podcast. I mean, it's the
- 22:31Speaker 11: podcast itself isn't bad. I'm not gonna sit here and
- 22:35Speaker 11: that like I listen to every episode. No, but if
- 22:38Speaker 11: there's a guest up there that I'm interested in, I'll
- 22:40Speaker 11: give it a listen. So, I mean, so far off,
- 22:42Speaker 11: listen to the episode where with her and Bianca bel Air.
- 22:47Speaker 11: I want to listen to the John Cena one. I
- 22:49Speaker 11: just haven't gotten around to that one yet. And I'll
- 22:52Speaker 11: definitely tune in for the for the Naomi and Jimmy who.
- 22:56Speaker 9: So yeah, I'll catch the highlights, Yeah, because we're kind
- 23:00Speaker 9: of curious what's going on with Naomi right now if
- 23:04Speaker 9: she's injured.
- 23:05Speaker 11: Hey, plus just general for me, it's just general interested
- 23:08Speaker 11: in them as a whole as well, because yeah, and
- 23:13Speaker 11: it's not you don't get a whole lot of interviews
- 23:17Speaker 11: with them like that. So I'll listen to a long
- 23:21Speaker 11: form interview with a wrestler if it's somebody that I'm
- 23:26Speaker 11: interested in or curious about, like a couple of Chris
- 23:30Speaker 11: van Vleet episodes I've listened to, Like I just listened
- 23:32Speaker 11: to the episode he did.
- 23:35Speaker 5: Most recently with Ivy Nile. That was a pretty decent
- 23:38Speaker 5: good one.
- 23:39Speaker 11: So stuff like that I'll always tune into because just
- 23:42Speaker 11: another way to to see another side of arrest of
- 23:46Speaker 11: a wrestler, see you get some insight into them and that.
- 23:52Speaker 9: M So, it looks like we have a another Well,
- 23:58Speaker 9: we have two green shirt guys now and a yellow
- 24:00Speaker 9: shirt guy smiley face sitting in the front row.
- 24:04Speaker 5: It's green shirt.
- 24:07Speaker 11: We've got original green shirt guy, we got wish dot
- 24:10Speaker 11: com green shirt guy, and we got reverse flash yellow
- 24:14Speaker 11: shirt guy.
- 24:20Speaker 12: Michel with green shirt guys and the Americanos and oh
- 24:25Speaker 12: my god, yeah.
- 24:26Speaker 9: The Grand americanas. Yes, I'm wondering if tomorrow, well Friday,
- 24:36Speaker 9: during SmackDown, we'll get an answer Naomi, what's going on
- 24:39Speaker 9: with her? What's going on with the title where we're going,
- 24:43Speaker 9: you know, for the next pay per view.
- 24:45Speaker 5: So maybe not tomorrow, but maybe Monday.
- 24:48Speaker 11: If we don't get an answer tomorrow, I mean, if
- 24:50Speaker 11: we don't get an answer tomorrow on the podcast, then
- 24:53Speaker 11: I assume we'll probably have an answer by RAW on Monday.
- 24:56Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of unclear I when this podcast is recorded, and.
- 25:02Speaker 12: I mean if it's it's if if I mean they
- 25:05Speaker 12: might have recorded the podcast she went to the gym
- 25:07Speaker 12: and blew her a c l out while working out,
- 25:10Speaker 12: you know, or she might have tripped over the cat
- 25:12Speaker 12: you know who. We have no idea, or maybe she
- 25:15Speaker 12: got diagnosed with some awful illness, or we have no idea.
- 25:18Speaker 12: And it's kind of silly and maybe even A had
- 25:21Speaker 12: disrespectful to even specula.
- 25:24Speaker 11: But it does seem oddly coincidental that she's she's last
- 25:29Speaker 11: minute pulled from RAW and they just so happened to
- 25:33Speaker 11: be guests all Stephanie's podcast. That's the idea, along with
- 25:37Speaker 11: all the speculation, and given how manipulative WWE has been
- 25:43Speaker 11: throughout this year, with everything, I mean, we can't put
- 25:47Speaker 11: anything that this isn't all a ploy just to draw
- 25:52Speaker 11: more attention to this podcast, which isn't really WWE affiliated.
- 25:57Speaker 11: It's just Stephanie McMahon, but she also the wife of
- 26:01Speaker 11: the content creator so or chief content officer, So we
- 26:07Speaker 11: can't put it past them to want to do this
- 26:10Speaker 11: just to draw more eyes to the product possibly.
- 26:14Speaker 9: I mean also Dre we were talking about it off air,
- 26:18Speaker 9: but I just don't trust him anymore. I just don't
- 26:22Speaker 9: trust anything, you know, because one minute, I'm thinking this
- 26:25Speaker 9: poor man is out his knees injured, and you know,
- 26:29Speaker 9: I'm ready to go to bed, and then all of
- 26:31Speaker 9: a sudden, I just can't trust them.
- 26:40Speaker 12: Point of clarification, it is on the WWE's podcast channel.
- 26:47Speaker 7: It is affiliated with them, and it's not affiliated with
- 26:52Speaker 7: That is not exactly true.
- 26:56Speaker 11: I mean I didn't I didn't think it was like
- 26:57Speaker 11: an official WWE podcast. But if it's on their channel,
- 27:01Speaker 11: then yeah, that would be because I mean, it has
- 27:04Speaker 11: its own YouTube channel by itself, and I don't know
- 27:07Speaker 11: that Stephanie has an official role with the company.
- 27:10Speaker 5: So I just got to figure it was.
- 27:12Speaker 12: But but all of the it's the Raw Recap show,
- 27:17Speaker 12: the Undertaker show, Cody show, they're all under the same
- 27:22Speaker 12: they're all under the Fanatics w W a podcast network.
- 27:27Speaker 7: I think it's I think it might be called Fanatics
- 27:30Speaker 7: x w w E or something like that.
- 27:34Speaker 11: Okay, so I know, I don't I know, No, that's
- 27:39Speaker 11: that's valid. I mean, there's a I guess there's a
- 27:41Speaker 11: level of affiliation there, so more fuel to the fire
- 27:46Speaker 11: that this is story something.
- 27:50Speaker 5: Yep, this is a work.
- 27:53Speaker 11: Story work, a real life work of real life of
- 27:58Speaker 11: real life events.
- 28:00Speaker 7: Possibly possibly maybe that's ass.
- 28:06Speaker 11: And oddly enough, as I got as I have the
- 28:07Speaker 11: match replaying it while we're talking about it, I didn't
- 28:10Speaker 11: even notice at first time that Naomi bit the living
- 28:13Speaker 11: ship out of uh when Rio was trying to sup
- 28:17Speaker 11: Lextra to the outside and Naomi blocked it, not by
- 28:21Speaker 11: you know, putting her foot on the rope to block
- 28:23Speaker 11: it or using power leverage. Nope, how she blocked it
- 28:26Speaker 11: biting a living ship out of real stone. That's a
- 28:31Speaker 11: subtle nuance that I that I appreciate. That's like character consistent.
- 28:39Speaker 7: Yeah, she really churned up to that match. Good for her.
- 28:42Speaker 7: I I.
- 28:43Speaker 12: Like Naomi a lot, but I was a little afraid
- 28:46Speaker 12: that she might get out signed by Rhea, and you know,
- 28:50Speaker 12: I don't.
- 28:50Speaker 7: I think she held her own so oh yeah, I
- 28:53Speaker 7: was happy to see happy to see that she did that.
- 28:56Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, she was definitely not. There was no weak
- 28:58Speaker 11: link in this match at all. No so, and I've
- 29:04Speaker 11: seen some people try to expect say that, you know,
- 29:07Speaker 11: if she is. If Naomi is going to be out there,
- 29:10Speaker 11: this is terrible timing for her because she's hot right now,
- 29:13Speaker 11: She's got the best run of her career going right
- 29:16Speaker 11: now as the champ and all that which valid, But
- 29:20Speaker 11: that does not mean that she can't come back and
- 29:24Speaker 11: be you know, hotter than she right, because they fans
- 29:30Speaker 11: love a comeback, ands love that appreciation, especially when somebody
- 29:34Speaker 11: was doing really good and then something takes him down
- 29:37Speaker 11: and they come back and they're bigger than they were
- 29:40Speaker 11: before they left. You know, think back to Triple h
- 29:43Speaker 11: two thousand and one and how he came back and
- 29:48Speaker 11: calltleus other wrestles. John seen it when he came back
- 29:50Speaker 11: in the rumble after tearing.
- 29:51Speaker 7: His pack and Tody's after he tore his pack, Right.
- 29:55Speaker 5: Cody, when he tore his when they come back from
- 30:00Speaker 5: precedent for people go down and come back.
- 30:04Speaker 7: Had leukemia, right was out for however long? Came back?
- 30:09Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 30:10Speaker 11: Well yeah Roman, Yeah, when he had the leukemia and
- 30:14Speaker 11: came back. So yeah, I don't think this is the timing. Yes,
- 30:19Speaker 11: terrible because yes, she is in a hot run right now,
- 30:23Speaker 11: but by no means does that mean you know, she
- 30:27Speaker 11: can't capitalize on it when she came comes back and
- 30:30Speaker 11: take it to another level.
- 30:32Speaker 7: M Yeah, but I mean, like I said, we still
- 30:35Speaker 7: we have no We have no idea. We can speculate.
- 30:38Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot of things that certainly look
- 30:40Speaker 7: to pregnancy, right, but who knows.
- 30:43Speaker 12: Maybe she she could have fallen down the stairs, she
- 30:45Speaker 12: could have been diagnosed with some skin condition.
- 30:49Speaker 5: Like, we have no idea.
- 30:51Speaker 7: We really don't.
- 30:53Speaker 5: Yep. All we can do is wait and see.
- 31:01Speaker 11: Moving on to match number two, twenty five years after
- 31:06Speaker 11: the first, they decide to give us another table, ladders
- 31:12Speaker 11: and chairs match, but this time double up, not three teams.
- 31:19Speaker 5: We got six.
- 31:23Speaker 11: Featuring the Wyatt Six defending against Andreide and Ray Phoenix,
- 31:29Speaker 11: DIY Praxium, MotorCity machine Guns, and the Street Profits. And
- 31:37Speaker 11: I'm I don't think I'm the only one who feels
- 31:41Speaker 11: this way in thinking that this was a great match
- 31:46Speaker 11: with a terrible finish because the wrong team won. I'm
- 31:52Speaker 11: not saying who the right team is that should have won.
- 31:56Speaker 11: I'm just saying why six should not have retained. And
- 31:59Speaker 11: I think that was reflected in the response from the
- 32:01Speaker 11: crowd when they'd won, because there was audible booze and
- 32:06Speaker 11: not that, Oh the Heels won booze because I don't
- 32:10Speaker 11: know that why six is ever supposed to have been
- 32:13Speaker 11: officially Heels. They're just in that gray area. The fans
- 32:17Speaker 11: definitely did not appear to be happy with the fact
- 32:19Speaker 11: that they retained these titles, and.
- 32:24Speaker 5: I'm setting that part of the match aside.
- 32:27Speaker 11: Yeah that the match was great and we got crazy
- 32:30Speaker 11: over the top wicked spots. Shout out to freaking Candice
- 32:34Speaker 11: Larray taking the insane spot off the ladder, through the
- 32:38Speaker 11: ladder to the outside.
- 32:39Speaker 5: And getting a gnarly bruise for it.
- 32:44Speaker 11: I mean, everybody was putting everybody through everything they could find,
- 32:47Speaker 11: hitting them with everything but the kitchen sink, jumping over this,
- 32:51Speaker 11: off that, through this, slammed onto this, slam through that.
- 32:55Speaker 11: I mean, they left it all. They ain't leave nothing
- 32:58Speaker 11: else in the ring. They left it all there. It
- 33:05Speaker 11: still just leaves a bad taste in my mouth because
- 33:08Speaker 11: the wrong team won.
- 33:10Speaker 5: M Where you at on this one where you had
- 33:19Speaker 5: on this one way?
- 33:21Speaker 9: Well, first of all, who do you really want to win?
- 33:24Speaker 7: Then?
- 33:24Speaker 9: I mean, I mean who predicted.
- 33:30Speaker 5: Just play that off?
- 33:32Speaker 7: Yeah, not after who.
- 33:34Speaker 9: We predicted, but after this match, who did you feel
- 33:37Speaker 9: I don't think.
- 33:38Speaker 11: I don't think I predicted anybody to win in our
- 33:42Speaker 11: preview episode because it was just I felt like it
- 33:44Speaker 11: was too many teams to predict.
- 33:46Speaker 5: And remember I was the one going into this match.
- 33:48Speaker 11: I thought it was good that was kind of down
- 33:50Speaker 11: on it because I thought it was too many teams
- 33:51Speaker 11: and that it was either going to be a great
- 33:54Speaker 11: match or a clusterfuck. And I'm happy to say that
- 33:57Speaker 11: it was not a total clusterfuck. But I mean, you
- 34:01Speaker 11: could have made an argument for arguably any of these
- 34:06Speaker 11: teams like Androdda and Ray Phoenix are about as hot
- 34:08Speaker 11: as they could be right now, have been putting on bangers.
- 34:13Speaker 11: There's an argument for d I Y even that they've
- 34:15Speaker 11: kind of been like the I guess you want to
- 34:18Speaker 11: say vocal leaders of the Tag division because there seem
- 34:20Speaker 11: to be the ones doing all the talking in the
- 34:22Speaker 11: backstage segments. Argument for Street Profits retaining their titles and
- 34:26Speaker 11: getting or not retaining but winning their titles back Praxium,
- 34:34Speaker 11: they're exciting. You know, they could have been the underdog
- 34:38Speaker 11: winners MotorCity machine Guns. They're the veterans, you know, if
- 34:42Speaker 11: you want to make them the two time champions. There
- 34:44Speaker 11: was an argument there, But what the hell is the
- 34:47Speaker 11: argument for the Y six retaining. Now we're back in
- 34:51Speaker 11: the same shit that we've been doing for the last
- 34:53Speaker 11: couple of months, all these teams fighting again just to
- 34:58Speaker 11: get another shot at the Y six, same scramble that
- 35:02Speaker 11: we've been doing for a while.
- 35:04Speaker 9: Now.
- 35:06Speaker 11: Eventually it's gonna get old and boring, and I think
- 35:09Speaker 11: in this case, it's gonna get old and boring really fast.
- 35:15Speaker 11: They gotta find some way to inject something interesting into
- 35:19Speaker 11: this tag division.
- 35:20Speaker 5: Or something to ignite it.
- 35:23Speaker 11: They've been doing a whole lot of work giving us
- 35:25Speaker 11: an actual competitive tag team division that we are tuning into.
- 35:31Speaker 11: But don't blow it if you just bogg the titles
- 35:34Speaker 11: down on a team that nobody wants to see hold them.
- 35:38Speaker 11: They gotta find another way to make this more dynamic
- 35:41Speaker 11: instead of just doing the same thing.
- 35:43Speaker 9: We know, teams like Axiom were big in NXT, a
- 35:49Speaker 9: fan favorite, and they brought up to the main roster,
- 35:51Speaker 9: and like you said, Andrade and Ray Phoenix have become
- 35:55Speaker 9: quite popular. So these are fresh teams and even City
- 36:00Speaker 9: machine Guns like they were kind of fresh for me
- 36:02Speaker 9: on this roster. But yeah, I don't I don't understand
- 36:07Speaker 9: where the Wyatt six are They just gonna take over
- 36:12Speaker 9: the Tag Division? Is that?
- 36:13Speaker 7: That?
- 36:13Speaker 3: Is?
- 36:13Speaker 7: That?
- 36:13Speaker 9: Just there's things? That is that where their stables stay
- 36:16Speaker 9: is just the Tag Division? Because uncle, how do he
- 36:18Speaker 9: ever fucking wrestle again? You know, his Nicky Cross ever
- 36:22Speaker 9: go for a title?
- 36:23Speaker 7: Ever?
- 36:23Speaker 9: Again? What what's Eric Rowan doing? I kind of I
- 36:29Speaker 9: kind of agree. I think the wrong team may have
- 36:32Speaker 9: won in this match. It was absolute chaos from beginning
- 36:35Speaker 9: to end. But I I fucking thoroughly enjoyed it though,
- 36:39Speaker 9: Like just you know, off the hype of the last
- 36:42Speaker 9: match being an opener, this was a great second match.
- 36:45Speaker 9: There's a lot of people just standing on their feet
- 36:48Speaker 9: during this match. You know, it's it's typical. I mean,
- 36:52Speaker 9: you got the numbers game here, so you see, you know,
- 36:55Speaker 9: one wrestler do with suicide die, There's gonna be three
- 36:58Speaker 9: others to follow. Everybody went through a fucking table, right
- 37:03Speaker 9: not to mention, like every corner had a table laid out,
- 37:07Speaker 9: which I thought was kind of cool. But the spots
- 37:09Speaker 9: they had there, you know, you were talking about the
- 37:13Speaker 9: anniversary of the of the last TFC match. They had
- 37:17Speaker 9: Summer Slam, they had the Dudley Boys, and the Hardy
- 37:21Speaker 9: Boys in the crowd. They promoted their TNA match coming up,
- 37:26Speaker 9: So I thought that was pretty cool that TNA got
- 37:28Speaker 9: a little rubbed for that, you know, and we're all
- 37:32Speaker 9: you know, all ww fans are familiar with the Dudley's
- 37:35Speaker 9: and the Hardy Boys, so it's great to see them there.
- 37:39Speaker 9: Probably great for them to sit here and watch this match. Uh,
- 37:43Speaker 9: plenty plenty plenty of slim gym tables got broken, you know,
- 37:50Speaker 9: just everybody got to snap into a slim gym. Uh.
- 37:54Speaker 9: I did love. I did see something kind of new
- 38:00Speaker 9: andrawda Ray Phoenix did it where Andrade was standing in
- 38:04Speaker 9: the middle of the ring and Ray Phoenix jumped up
- 38:06Speaker 9: on his shoulders to try to grab the titles without
- 38:08Speaker 9: the ladder. I thought that was pretty damn impressive.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Uh.
- 38:12Speaker 9: I guess the only thing kind of close to that
- 38:14Speaker 9: maybe is with what Chris Jericho was standing on Big
- 38:17Speaker 9: shows shoulders try to get the tag titles. But yeah,
- 38:23Speaker 9: I thought that was a pretty cool spot. Also, uh
- 38:26Speaker 9: them with Champa hanging from the belt upside down, like, man, damn,
- 38:34Speaker 9: that was impressive. Scary man, Like, you know, I'm just like,
- 38:40Speaker 9: as he started like, don't pass out, Man, don't let
- 38:43Speaker 9: all that blood rush your head and pass the fuck out.
- 38:46Speaker 11: Like get passing out. I was more concerned about not
- 38:49Speaker 11: necessarily him passing.
- 38:50Speaker 5: Out the rope, right, I'm like, how strong is that? O?
- 38:57Speaker 11: God, that strap these belts are on in that cable,
- 39:01Speaker 11: Mike boy, I hope they really tested that beforehand. Yeah,
- 39:06Speaker 11: or that thing is rated for a weight limit that
- 39:08Speaker 11: vastly out exceeds Chopper. When you look at it, it
- 39:12Speaker 11: just looks like a flat gold So I'm like, that
- 39:15Speaker 11: man had some cheap aluminum.
- 39:16Speaker 5: I hope that's steel.
- 39:18Speaker 11: Yeah, but obviously it held them, and it held them easily,
- 39:22Speaker 11: So thank God for that, because.
- 39:27Speaker 9: What a wild spot. And having you know, basically everybody
- 39:32Speaker 9: from this their you know, respected stables interfere, having the
- 39:37Speaker 9: women interfere, having Eric Rowan, basically the whole White six interfere,
- 39:42Speaker 9: and you know, that's really why the White six one
- 39:47Speaker 9: had the numbers game at the end of the day.
- 39:51Speaker 9: But I mean, yeah, dude, I enjoyed this match from
- 39:54Speaker 9: me and then I I guess at the beginning, I
- 39:57Speaker 9: think last episode or the productions episode, I kind of
- 40:00Speaker 9: wanted Ray and Andrada to win this. But it is
- 40:06Speaker 9: what it is.
- 40:09Speaker 11: But you know, thinking about the numbers game, does it
- 40:12Speaker 11: make sense for the WYAT six to win the numbers
- 40:15Speaker 11: game when they're facing five other tag teams?
- 40:19Speaker 9: Yeah? I know you would think, right, why don't.
- 40:25Speaker 5: And other motherfuckers like they should not have the numbers advantage.
- 40:32Speaker 9: It's wrestling matthre It's not supposed to make sense. Wrestling
- 40:37Speaker 9: math never does make sense.
- 40:42Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I get that good. At some point.
- 40:47Speaker 11: You can only ask us to stretch our belief so
- 40:51Speaker 11: far speaking of I mean, I get it logically it
- 40:56Speaker 11: makes sense because they didn't come until later on match
- 40:58Speaker 11: and everybody's tired warn but it's still ten other.
- 41:01Speaker 9: Motherfuckers speaking of a wrestling match that you guys.
- 41:05Speaker 5: Don shout help them? Damn why and get them.
- 41:07Speaker 9: Theers math quote the other day on Raw and goes
- 41:13Speaker 9: to elle Knight and seth rollins or not elle Knight
- 41:16Speaker 9: and Seampunk goes, what are you like forty and what
- 41:19Speaker 9: are you like forty seven? That's like one hundred years
- 41:21Speaker 9: old combined some stinder match that's pretty funny. And he
- 41:28Speaker 9: yelled at he was he even have the mic in
- 41:30Speaker 9: his hands. I thought he was even funnier.
- 41:34Speaker 5: YEP props to the camera man for being right there
- 41:36Speaker 5: to catch it. Yeah.
- 41:39Speaker 9: Uh, Doyle, what do you say of this match?
- 41:42Speaker 5: All right?
- 41:42Speaker 7: Now that I'm not on mute? Okay, it's okay. I
- 41:47Speaker 7: like this and everything that I'm gonna say from here
- 41:50Speaker 7: on forward, it is probably gona sound like I didn't.
- 41:53Speaker 5: I promise I did.
- 41:54Speaker 7: Uh. We said this was funny time yea since the
- 41:57Speaker 7: original PLC.
- 41:59Speaker 12: Unfortunately it was four months after that phenomenal TlCu.
- 42:04Speaker 7: What was it to go home to WrestleMania or the
- 42:06Speaker 7: week after? And that only had Yeah, that was so
- 42:12Speaker 7: much better than this.
- 42:13Speaker 6: Uh.
- 42:14Speaker 7: And I think it had I think it had too
- 42:17Speaker 7: many teams for one, it just had it didn't have
- 42:21Speaker 7: very much slow. It just seemed like a stunt show.
- 42:24Speaker 7: We were just going from.
- 42:25Speaker 12: Viral viral thing or thing we want to go viral,
- 42:29Speaker 12: the thing we want to go viral, the thing we
- 42:30Speaker 12: want to go viral, with nothing connecting any of it
- 42:34Speaker 12: like that. Uh that four corner spot where like they
- 42:39Speaker 12: had somebody on each corner, you know, and somebody went
- 42:43Speaker 12: through a.
- 42:43Speaker 7: Table, the outside table the outside. There was a ladder
- 42:46Speaker 7: set up in the ring and no one in the ring.
- 42:48Speaker 12: Why isn't nobody going for the fucking top tend titles
- 42:52Speaker 12: while all this other ship is going on, you know,
- 42:54Speaker 12: like that some of.
- 42:55Speaker 7: The wrestling logic was was a little laughing thought.
- 42:59Speaker 12: Uh, when there's so many moving parts, you can always
- 43:01Speaker 12: have somebody going for the going to the belts.
- 43:04Speaker 7: But that being said, come of the spots were great.
- 43:06Speaker 7: That that that fantas fly through the table from the
- 43:10Speaker 7: from the ring posts was crazy.
- 43:11Speaker 14: We talked about the chomper spot was fucking crazy. The
- 43:16Speaker 14: with a great finished jumping jumping up on Johnny Soldiers
- 43:20Speaker 14: was great. But there were there there were good things
- 43:22Speaker 14: about this match. It was a lot of fun, don't
- 43:24Speaker 14: get me wrong.
- 43:26Speaker 12: I just did it had a little more connectivity to it,
- 43:30Speaker 12: and it's just it's just hard not to compare it
- 43:32Speaker 12: to that incredible match from Sacktown a few months ago,
- 43:37Speaker 12: involved in the same teams.
- 43:39Speaker 7: Ah, it's just there was too much going on.
- 43:42Speaker 12: I thought thought, maybe if we had if we had
- 43:44Speaker 12: maybe had three or three one on one matches to
- 43:48Speaker 12: get to three teams to this match, maybe that's a
- 43:50Speaker 12: little more interesting.
- 43:54Speaker 14: But yeah, I mean it was fun, don't get it wrong,
- 43:57Speaker 14: I'll know it, Uh, but I just thought it needed
- 44:00Speaker 14: it lacked connectivity.
- 44:03Speaker 7: I guess you could say, yeah, you're.
- 44:10Speaker 5: Right about that.
- 44:11Speaker 11: It was more or less a glorified spot fest of
- 44:14Speaker 11: a match, albeit very entertaining, and had both those spots. Yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 11: but there was definitely some lacking and some connective tissue.
- 44:24Speaker 11: They could have maybe threaded these spots together or weaved
- 44:27Speaker 11: them together a little bit more, because, like you said,
- 44:30Speaker 11: the four corner table spot, imagine the fourth person and
- 44:35Speaker 11: how long you had to sit there and lay on
- 44:37Speaker 11: that table and wait for your turn to get splashed on.
- 44:43Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 44:43Speaker 12: Now, luckily this match didn't have too much of Oh
- 44:47Speaker 12: I've gotten to the second round from the top of
- 44:49Speaker 12: the ladder and all of a sudden, I forget how
- 44:50Speaker 12: to climb the ladder.
- 44:52Speaker 7: There wasn't too much of that, thankfully.
- 44:55Speaker 12: That's like my biggest ladder match type thieve is when
- 44:58Speaker 12: guys fly up and they get to the top lay
- 45:00Speaker 12: Oh fuck, I I can't remember how to time further
- 45:02Speaker 12: than it.
- 45:05Speaker 11: I can't reach. Yeah, I just can't reach. It's it's
- 45:08Speaker 11: right there. And if only there was more letter for
- 45:11Speaker 11: me to like really.
- 45:14Speaker 12: But yeah, I mean definitely some of the bumps were crazy,
- 45:17Speaker 12: you know, props, the canvas, the race taking that insane bumps.
- 45:22Speaker 12: There was another there were a couple of flying fair
- 45:25Speaker 12: spots that looks pretty dangerous. Uh, who would I think
- 45:31Speaker 12: Mark Ginando had hit Gaisy?
- 45:33Speaker 7: I want to say it was like a pretty nice
- 45:35Speaker 7: DDT through a table on the outside, So that's some
- 45:38Speaker 7: good stuff. It's just uh, it's just as a as
- 45:41Speaker 7: a it didn't flow for me.
- 45:46Speaker 11: Thing that kind of wasn't talked about that we haven't
- 45:50Speaker 11: talked about yet before the match itself, the fact that
- 45:56Speaker 11: all six of these teams came out and I don't
- 46:00Speaker 11: think a single one of them gotta pop or barely
- 46:04Speaker 11: any reaction from the crowd.
- 46:06Speaker 5: Because nobody knows their themes.
- 46:11Speaker 11: Wow, they changed up Street Profits theme from something that
- 46:15Speaker 11: may not have been great but at least was known
- 46:17Speaker 11: to whatever that trashes they have now none of the
- 46:21Speaker 11: other teams that really have recognizable themes. DY had a
- 46:24Speaker 11: theme that was somewhat recognizable for a while, changed up
- 46:27Speaker 11: it sucks MotorCity machine Guns. I mean, I don't say
- 46:34Speaker 11: their theme is bad, but it ain't. I don't think
- 46:36Speaker 11: they're hot enough to where people have gotten behind it.
- 46:39Speaker 11: And then there's why six, which your theme doesn't really
- 46:42Speaker 11: hit like that when it's freaking high noon sunlight outside
- 46:49Speaker 11: right doesn't really hit the same.
- 46:52Speaker 9: So yeah, I will say wrestling during the day is
- 46:56Speaker 9: vastly different. I remember there WrestleMania where we had Brea
- 47:00Speaker 9: Why versus the Undertaker and it was during the day
- 47:03Speaker 9: and I was like, oh man, this does not fit.
- 47:07Speaker 9: It just didn't work for me.
- 47:10Speaker 7: But yeah, what is speaking a seaking entrance themes? Oh?
- 47:21Speaker 7: This is the next mast featured a new interest theme.
- 47:24Speaker 5: It did a new entrance theme for Becky Lynch, which.
- 47:30Speaker 12: Is the song seems fine and I'm sure it would
- 47:33Speaker 12: be a fine entrance team for someone else, But why
- 47:36Speaker 12: when you're one of the few fucking people that has
- 47:37Speaker 12: an actual recognizable theme song, why would.
- 47:41Speaker 5: You even if? For years? Right?
- 47:45Speaker 7: And I don't John Michaels has had that stupid fucking
- 47:48Speaker 7: song for thirty years, you.
- 47:50Speaker 5: Know, and it did.
- 47:51Speaker 11: It didn't matter if he was a heel oor babyface.
- 47:53Speaker 11: He was coming out to sexy boy and.
- 47:55Speaker 7: The minute you're here, the first millisecond of it, you
- 47:59Speaker 7: know he's happy. What it is exactly like And and
- 48:02Speaker 7: he had one of my own songs, And I don't
- 48:05Speaker 7: know why the fun he would.
- 48:06Speaker 9: Chase right, But like when whoa Right, when Shawn Megel's
- 48:11Speaker 9: music would hit though as a heel, we weren't all
- 48:14Speaker 9: seeing sexy boy out loud, like you know, the crowds
- 48:18Speaker 9: are singing now. I think it's more or less that.
- 48:20Speaker 9: So the crowds aren't favoring Becky with the scene because.
- 48:25Speaker 5: They're still fucking boom.
- 48:26Speaker 7: They're still yeah, they they they they sing that song. God,
- 48:34Speaker 7: that was really hard. I mean, such a heel.
- 48:37Speaker 5: They still do his.
- 48:38Speaker 7: Ship, you know, they sing Randy Salo when he's a heel.
- 48:42Speaker 5: Right, Becky's been a heel with the theme she had
- 48:46Speaker 5: and came out with it.
- 48:47Speaker 9: Well, she was the man.
- 48:48Speaker 11: Yeah, when she was the man, when she was feuding
- 48:52Speaker 11: with Bianca, she was a heel getting booed coming out
- 48:56Speaker 11: to her theme. It's her theme, it's Becky. The people
- 49:01Speaker 11: identify it with Becky Lynch the remake the Wheel for.
- 49:07Speaker 12: Yeah, and especially the time when so few people and
- 49:11Speaker 12: just what you said about nobody knows six Tag Games,
- 49:14Speaker 12: you don't know any of their songs, right, Like, at
- 49:16Speaker 12: a time when so few essentially women, but so few
- 49:19Speaker 12: wrestlers in general, have a recognizable theme song, it all
- 49:23Speaker 12: this sounds like the same.
- 49:25Speaker 7: Jeath rebel garbage. Why would you?
- 49:29Speaker 5: It's nice one that works.
- 49:32Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it seems like such an own goal
- 49:35Speaker 7: or a cell phone or something. Its unforced or.
- 49:41Speaker 11: You guys aren't almost like devaluing your own star by
- 49:45Speaker 11: giving them a terrible theme.
- 49:48Speaker 9: You guys are not fans, I can tell I can tell.
- 49:51Speaker 7: No. It might be a fine song. I don't think
- 49:55Speaker 7: they've released it anywhere, so I don't think you listen
- 49:57Speaker 7: to it. I don't think like.
- 50:00Speaker 12: All kinds of Apparently the lyrics have like are very
- 50:04Speaker 12: personal and like have like have like a reference to
- 50:07Speaker 12: her daughter and her father and Setz and this and
- 50:10Speaker 12: that and the other thing, which is all well and good.
- 50:14Speaker 12: It's just that you have the theme that everyone knows
- 50:16Speaker 12: the minute and you shouldn't.
- 50:18Speaker 7: Talk with us.
- 50:19Speaker 5: That's nice. You know what you do with that?
- 50:22Speaker 11: Okay, we're gonna run this theme for a couple of
- 50:24Speaker 11: weeks in order to promote this album that we have
- 50:26Speaker 11: of w W E music, And then you go back
- 50:29Speaker 11: to the ship that works. You know, the rock didn't
- 50:33Speaker 11: always come out to if You Smell. There was a
- 50:35Speaker 11: couple of times. There were a few weeks where he
- 50:37Speaker 11: came out to some different ship which were which as songs,
- 50:41Speaker 11: were perfectly fine, you know for what they There was
- 50:44Speaker 11: the one time when the Rock had the song that
- 50:47Speaker 11: Meta Man did, which if you listen to the song,
- 50:51Speaker 11: nice song, dope song, Beth spitting beat nice. But they
- 51:00Speaker 11: did it for long enough to promote that thing, and
- 51:02Speaker 11: then we went right the fun back to if you Smell.
- 51:07Speaker 11: So if it's a case of that, if you have
- 51:09Speaker 11: some musical project coming out and you want to get
- 51:12Speaker 11: this thing out there to promote that, I'm okay with it.
- 51:15Speaker 5: But this ain't what that is. This is them just
- 51:17Speaker 5: changing her theme for no logical reason whatsoever.
- 51:26Speaker 7: Well, maybe a fine tongue, that's even an issue.
- 51:34Speaker 9: It's just the fact that.
- 51:37Speaker 5: Song yourself maybe okay, But that's not that. That ain't
- 51:40Speaker 5: the issue, you know what.
- 51:43Speaker 9: This could be one of those sayings. So it doesn't stick.
- 51:45Speaker 9: Because a few months ago we had aj Styles come
- 51:50Speaker 9: with a new theme music and I fucking hated it
- 51:54Speaker 9: because I like the theme music he has now. And
- 51:57Speaker 9: then a couple of weeks went by and then all
- 52:00Speaker 9: of a sudden, he went back to his original theme
- 52:03Speaker 9: music and hasn't changed since. I don't know, Maybe you
- 52:07Speaker 9: guys keep your fingers crossed.
- 52:08Speaker 4: He also had.
- 52:09Speaker 12: He also had a fairly He also had a fairly
- 52:11Speaker 12: recognizable theme song.
- 52:12Speaker 7: I think you know, it's if if if I got
- 52:19Speaker 7: a new sh yeah, I mean if if I don't know,
- 52:24Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of just a random person.
- 52:26Speaker 12: If often he ever got a new theme song, I
- 52:29Speaker 12: probably wouldn't even notice, and I wouldn't care because he
- 52:31Speaker 12: didn't have an iconic theme song to begin with.
- 52:35Speaker 7: He can only get better. But if you have it,
- 52:39Speaker 7: you might as well hang on to it.
- 52:40Speaker 11: I think, yeah, it's not everything they don't. There's too
- 52:48Speaker 11: much tinkering. You ain't got the tinker and fuck with everything.
- 52:52Speaker 7: M Yeah, change for change sake, because it's always right
- 52:56Speaker 7: up to right.
- 53:00Speaker 5: Take her till you find something that works. Once you
- 53:02Speaker 5: find something that works, stick with it.
- 53:09Speaker 11: But AnyWho, we were talking about Becky Lynch because she
- 53:14Speaker 11: faced Lyra Valkyria for the women's in a continental championship
- 53:19Speaker 11: and a match that went on for twenty five long.
- 53:27Speaker 5: Minutes second longest.
- 53:30Speaker 12: I mean, like I said about the Three Way, like
- 53:31Speaker 12: I said about the Three Way, it was at the
- 53:33Speaker 12: perfect amount of time, not too short, not too long,
- 53:35Speaker 12: this too.
- 53:36Speaker 11: Long, way too long, this was the second longest match
- 53:41Speaker 11: of the night, Like, why, yeah, what about this match
- 53:48Speaker 11: from twenty five minutes?
- 53:56Speaker 7: And I thought it was too long?
- 53:58Speaker 11: You're right, I mean they get they we know we've
- 54:01Speaker 11: said at times time, Yes they can wrestle, Yes they
- 54:03Speaker 11: can go in the ring. Absolutely with this match just fucking.
- 54:09Speaker 7: Dragged, especially after that car crash of a TLC match.
- 54:16Speaker 9: Yeah, this kind of brought me down a pass. It
- 54:20Speaker 9: felt like this. Yeah, it was just too long, man.
- 54:23Speaker 9: I guess it's the end of the feud match. That's
- 54:25Speaker 9: what we're getting in here, hopefully, I mean, yeah, challenge.
- 54:31Speaker 11: Yeah, because Becky wants a Lira can't challenge anymore. And
- 54:35Speaker 11: it wound up being Bailey costing Lira to win because
- 54:41Speaker 11: at some point during the match, while Becky was dog
- 54:44Speaker 11: walking the ship out of Lyra, h, she was about
- 54:48Speaker 11: to take her out with the crowbar, and then Becky
- 54:52Speaker 11: hops Becky Bailey hops the fence with that lovely red
- 54:56Speaker 11: outfit she had on.
- 55:00Speaker 5: With them red velvet cakes in the back and uh,
- 55:07Speaker 5: and Becky gives her the crow bar and gives Bailey
- 55:10Speaker 5: a chance to say, yo, take her out.
- 55:12Speaker 11: Meanwhile, Lyra's just laying there folded up in a chair
- 55:16Speaker 11: around her neck looking, oh man, it is Bailey gonna
- 55:20Speaker 11: take her out? Is Bailey gonna take her out? We
- 55:22Speaker 11: know damn well, Bailly ain't gonna take her out. And
- 55:24Speaker 11: Bailly does not take her out and proceeds to start
- 55:26Speaker 11: beating shit out of Becky. And then in the point
- 55:30Speaker 11: a little bit later, Becky invertly hits Lyra Bailly I
- 55:36Speaker 11: mean Becky, Bailey inadvertently hits Lyra. Becky hits the man handle, slam,
- 55:42Speaker 11: gets the pen, and the suffering is over and this
- 55:46Speaker 11: match finally ends.
- 55:49Speaker 7: See very good stuff. I thought, I like see I
- 55:53Speaker 7: like to use some zip ties. That was fun until
- 55:56Speaker 7: it wasn't fun anymore. And A on way too long
- 55:59Speaker 7: and b it's the pearl hands popped out and then
- 56:02Speaker 7: she put her hands back in the zip like her.
- 56:09Speaker 11: Her watching her put her like we can see you, yeah,
- 56:14Speaker 11: and forth is not hiding the fact that you're trying
- 56:17Speaker 11: to put your hand back in the zip tie.
- 56:20Speaker 12: And at this day and age where they're literally showing
- 56:22Speaker 12: us how they make the show, now, uh, why isn't
- 56:27Speaker 12: somebody going switch the.
- 56:28Speaker 7: Fucking camera angle? Like, why aren't we showing showing the
- 56:31Speaker 7: Crown show anything? Except her clearly out of the handcuffs,
- 56:35Speaker 7: you know, like, what the how hard is the tamert?
- 56:40Speaker 9: You know, I'm personally over the whole zip tie uses.
- 56:45Speaker 9: I mean the last time master we used them with
- 56:47Speaker 9: was Jay Huso.
- 56:50Speaker 11: If you're going to use a zip tie, fucking zip
- 56:53Speaker 11: tie somebody for real, Like, don't do this little bullshit like, oh,
- 56:57Speaker 11: we're gonna zip tie you, but they're gonna leave them
- 56:59Speaker 11: loose because then dumb ship like this happens when somebody's
- 57:02Speaker 11: hand pops out but looking like trying to put their
- 57:06Speaker 11: hand back in or sneak under the ring and come
- 57:08Speaker 11: back with magic my hands back in the zip tie.
- 57:10Speaker 11: Now zip time for real, and then come up with
- 57:13Speaker 11: a creative way to get him out of it. Yeah,
- 57:18Speaker 11: create the legitimate problem, then figure out the solution. Also,
- 57:21Speaker 11: I mean they had a whole toolbox at ringside, freaking
- 57:26Speaker 11: wire cutters in that bitch I'm tired, she's legitimately tired up,
- 57:30Speaker 11: and then she has to find a way to get
- 57:33Speaker 11: to the wirecutters. And hell, I would accept even the
- 57:38Speaker 11: referee clipping her loops over that dumb ship they just
- 57:42Speaker 11: did they pulled.
- 57:44Speaker 9: Yeah, it's when she did they to belly. That's when
- 57:49Speaker 9: they that's when they came off. Also, we got to
- 57:53Speaker 9: see the use of a crowbar, you know, or if.
- 57:57Speaker 5: You're gonna have Bailey get involved, lose.
- 58:03Speaker 11: Yeah, Bailey, who Becky's asked for a while name, grabbed
- 58:06Speaker 11: the ice and snip, snip, You're free.
- 58:10Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 58:10Speaker 9: This is why I hate zip ties, man. I just
- 58:12Speaker 9: think they're fucking silly and wrestling like that, and and
- 58:15Speaker 9: the use of anything in the toolbox. I've never been
- 58:18Speaker 9: like excited when they pull the toolbox out. Oh, here
- 58:21Speaker 9: we go. They're gonna get a wrench out maybe or
- 58:24Speaker 9: a screwdriver.
- 58:25Speaker 5: To plit somebody's fucking skull open.
- 58:28Speaker 9: Yeah that too, Like they're gonna lift up this heavy
- 58:30Speaker 9: ass Yeah, so seem punkers on lifting up that heavy
- 58:33Speaker 9: ass fucking toolbox. I'm like, no, there's plenty of other weapons.
- 58:38Speaker 9: I would have chose him under the ring, but apparently
- 58:41Speaker 9: we were using a crowbar, So now we're gonna commit murder.
- 58:45Speaker 9: Ah And by the way, crowbar beats kendo stick every time. Uh.
- 58:52Speaker 9: I did like the use of the chain wrapped around
- 58:55Speaker 9: her her mouth and then like around the ring post.
- 58:57Speaker 9: I thought that was pretty cool. With the foot in
- 58:59Speaker 9: the back of course, the many many Yeah, I mean
- 59:07Speaker 9: the typical uh match with her, you know, just feathers
- 59:11Speaker 9: everywhere all over the ring by the time the match
- 59:13Speaker 9: is over. Yes, I kind of feel like that's how
- 59:16Speaker 9: her matches go, you know, they just wrapping up this feud.
- 59:22Speaker 9: So uh, I'm glad we we don't have to revisit
- 59:26Speaker 9: this for a while.
- 59:29Speaker 7: I I.
- 59:31Speaker 9: Was kind of like, I don't know, man, there's a
- 59:33Speaker 9: split second. I was thinking that Bailey might have turned,
- 59:36Speaker 9: you know, her and her and Becky standing there, Like,
- 59:40Speaker 9: come on, why not just fucking turn you line yourself
- 59:44Speaker 9: with Becky? That'd be fucking cool. Ship, right, we got
- 59:46Speaker 9: Lexi and Charlotte lining together, there's a weird pairing. Why
- 59:50Speaker 9: not align Becky and Bailey as heels, right? And I
- 59:54Speaker 9: was like, nah, okay, let's not do it.
- 59:56Speaker 5: Women Power Trip two women power Trip.
- 59:59Speaker 7: Right.
- 1:00:00Speaker 12: Something's going on with Bile after that promo Monday.
- 1:00:05Speaker 9: Right, I mean, like when that have been pretty cool,
- 1:00:08Speaker 9: Like oh ship, like Bailey and Banking, like these two
- 1:00:10Speaker 9: women have like fought for years, and like now they're
- 1:00:12Speaker 9: gonna be like a heel tag team, like kind of
- 1:00:16Speaker 9: the opposite of what we're getting with Charlotte and Alexa, like,
- 1:00:19Speaker 9: you know, not the phase tag team of these two
- 1:00:21Speaker 9: girls who can't work together. How about two heels that
- 1:00:23Speaker 9: don't like each other?
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:00:26Speaker 9: But uh no, I mean never know. But yeah, there
- 1:00:32Speaker 9: was a there was an opportunity, you know, he says,
- 1:00:34Speaker 9: just give me that goofy ass look on her fucking
- 1:00:37Speaker 9: half her body sticking out of that steel chair.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: I wouldn't I wouldn't have been opposed to a two
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: women power trip.
- 1:00:44Speaker 11: I think, yeah, I think the women's division as a
- 1:00:47Speaker 11: whole needs something.
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: It needs something to.
- 1:00:52Speaker 11: They need like a faction, because right now it's just
- 1:00:54Speaker 11: a bunch of women and a cables little tag teams.
- 1:00:58Speaker 11: I think the Women's I don't want to say they
- 1:01:01Speaker 11: need a bloodline, but they need something similar. They need
- 1:01:04Speaker 11: something that will rally the rest for the rest of
- 1:01:07Speaker 11: the Women's division to rally.
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: Against something they need.
- 1:01:11Speaker 11: They need a central antagget antagonist for that division. I
- 1:01:17Speaker 11: think that could inject some some some life into it.
- 1:01:22Speaker 11: I'm not saying the division as lifeless as it is now,
- 1:01:24Speaker 11: but something like that could could really ignite the women's.
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: Division a big time.
- 1:01:34Speaker 11: If they had a big time women's like faction, really
- 1:01:37Speaker 11: not since Damage controls not since Damage Control.
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: They never really got over. Well, I say they didn't
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: got over. They never dominated.
- 1:01:47Speaker 11: Yeah, they were a women's fat, women's faction, but they
- 1:01:49Speaker 11: never they didn't dominate. They were constantly losing to the
- 1:01:53Speaker 11: bigger faces because uh, Bailey was the leader and she
- 1:01:57Speaker 11: could never be Bianca, who was the champion at the time,
- 1:02:00Speaker 11: in their primary antagonists. And then if it was a
- 1:02:04Speaker 11: faction thing, Bianca just grabbed all the biggest names and
- 1:02:07Speaker 11: then they would just whoop Damage Control. The closest thing
- 1:02:10Speaker 11: they came to being up there was initially when Dakota
- 1:02:14Speaker 11: and EO were tag champions, and then when EO got
- 1:02:17Speaker 11: the money in the bank and cashed in on Bianca
- 1:02:20Speaker 11: and became women's champion. But they were never really dominant
- 1:02:24Speaker 11: in terms of like lording over the women's division.
- 1:02:29Speaker 9: Right, and then we got how we got the finish here.
- 1:02:34Speaker 9: You know, Bailey hitting Lyra and you know Becky hitting
- 1:02:38Speaker 9: her finished her on her for the pen And I
- 1:02:41Speaker 9: was thinking, you know, given the state of this match,
- 1:02:46Speaker 9: and you know, being a no disqualifications match, you think
- 1:02:51Speaker 9: Bailey would maybe have broken up that pin.
- 1:02:55Speaker 11: But no, you know, yeh, no, no, needs for it
- 1:03:07Speaker 11: to because if she'd have broken up, did I mean
- 1:03:10Speaker 11: gone on even longer?
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:03:19Speaker 9: What MAT's all I got for that match?
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: Yep, nothing else.
- 1:03:27Speaker 11: We can move on to the match number four of
- 1:03:29Speaker 11: the night, and that was the steel cage match for
- 1:03:34Speaker 11: the ww United States Championship being Solo Socoa and Jacob Fatu.
- 1:03:42Speaker 7: Boy.
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: It was this match of letdown. I really thought this
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: match was gonna go a lot harder than it did.
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: It was pretty much just.
- 1:03:54Speaker 7: Help.
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: The Kings barely served a purpose in the match, honestly.
- 1:03:58Speaker 11: For the most of the match was just a basic
- 1:04:00Speaker 11: regular one on one with occasionally somebody getting thrown into
- 1:04:04Speaker 11: the cage. And then, in typical fashion, here comes damn ft,
- 1:04:12Speaker 11: here comes Jimmy Numbers, game gets to him. Solo wins,
- 1:04:20Speaker 11: and I hate I don't like steel cage matches where
- 1:04:25Speaker 11: you don't utilize the still cage. Apparently, like back in
- 1:04:30Speaker 11: the day, when you had a steel cage match, the
- 1:04:32Speaker 11: steel cage was the weapon.
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: It was a primary weapon.
- 1:04:37Speaker 11: A lot of people would use that offense would be
- 1:04:39Speaker 11: involved the cage, throwing you into a cage, slamming you
- 1:04:43Speaker 11: into a cage, breaking your face on the cage, all
- 1:04:46Speaker 11: of that. These motherfuckers were just wrestling a regular ass
- 1:04:49Speaker 11: damn match that just happened to be in a cage.
- 1:04:54Speaker 11: Every now and then somebody would get oh we threw
- 1:04:56Speaker 11: them in the cage. Oh god it yeah, this was
- 1:05:00Speaker 11: a real letdown. And then, of course Solo retains when
- 1:05:06Speaker 11: the tallest of Tongas comes in, kicks to both of them,
- 1:05:11Speaker 11: but both of them a head in the door, but
- 1:05:17Speaker 11: Jacob the only one that got fuxed up when he
- 1:05:18Speaker 11: kicked it, because Jacob's head was exposed and Solo's head
- 1:05:23Speaker 11: was apparently protected by Jacob's hands because he was grabbing
- 1:05:26Speaker 11: Solo by the head or whatever the fuck logic they
- 1:05:30Speaker 11: were applying to that. But and Solo just falls out
- 1:05:34Speaker 11: to win. And then they throw the dominions of mft
- 1:05:41Speaker 11: and and Tongala and the hell's out of the boy name, Well, y'all, no,
- 1:05:54Speaker 11: not the tallest of tongas, the other one, ah.
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: J James Franco, whatever the hell Ja C Mittel, Ja
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: ja C mittel and and tongue of law. They throwed
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: him in there just to catch a post match beat down,
- 1:06:13Speaker 5: which was.
- 1:06:14Speaker 11: Completely meaningless because you already fucking lost, So what you
- 1:06:19Speaker 11: just gonna vent your frustration. And then we get the
- 1:06:21Speaker 11: spot that should have happened during the match of him
- 1:06:25Speaker 11: doing the moon salt off the top of the cage.
- 1:06:31Speaker 5: After the match, when it's old like the.
- 1:06:34Speaker 11: Fuck match made the fucking sense and it was a letdown.
- 1:06:38Speaker 11: It was this match should have been way better than
- 1:06:40Speaker 11: what it was, Jim and Doyle where you had on
- 1:06:50Speaker 11: this one way.
- 1:06:52Speaker 9: I'm not muted. I'll tell you that. Uh uh, you know,
- 1:06:57Speaker 9: it's cool. We got to see him Jacob adds something
- 1:07:01Speaker 9: to his entrance and that's he wears a werewolf mask.
- 1:07:05Speaker 9: It looks like I thought that was pretty cool. Intgewing
- 1:07:09Speaker 9: something something new to his repertoire, so it his outfit
- 1:07:14Speaker 9: to his gimmick. Man, I agree, I was very let
- 1:07:19Speaker 9: down by this match. I am slowly becoming not so
- 1:07:23Speaker 9: much a fan of steel cage matches anymore. I don't know.
- 1:07:28Speaker 9: It's just something about, you know, them just going open
- 1:07:33Speaker 9: the door and I'm just gonna walk out to end
- 1:07:36Speaker 9: the match. Just it just makes it so boring. It
- 1:07:39Speaker 9: just makes it so boring for me. I just feel
- 1:07:44Speaker 9: like at one point there was.
- 1:07:47Speaker 5: So Now you agree with Jesse Ventura, Yeah, I'm starting to.
- 1:07:50Speaker 9: Man, Like I liked when we had to either make
- 1:07:53Speaker 9: them pin or submit, or or we had to climb
- 1:07:56Speaker 9: over the top, over the top, and you know, like
- 1:08:00Speaker 9: that's how it was in the video games back then,
- 1:08:01Speaker 9: Like you had to climb up, over and down, and
- 1:08:04Speaker 9: your opponent would always be pulling you off, and these
- 1:08:07Speaker 9: sick moves would happen off the top of the cage
- 1:08:09Speaker 9: a lot, because you know, you're trying, you're trying to
- 1:08:12Speaker 9: get out. I don't know, it just it got more.
- 1:08:16Speaker 9: It was more exciting, Like the crowd got more excited
- 1:08:20Speaker 9: when the two wrestlers will be at the top of
- 1:08:22Speaker 9: the you know, the cage, fighting to get over, get
- 1:08:25Speaker 9: both those legs over and having both of them touched
- 1:08:27Speaker 9: the bottom. But now it's like open the door. It's like.
- 1:08:32Speaker 11: I think, I think about the still cage match we
- 1:08:36Speaker 11: got last year between uh what was it, Tristtratison was
- 1:08:40Speaker 11: a Trician, Becky Lynch.
- 1:08:42Speaker 5: They had a banger of a steel cage match last year.
- 1:08:45Speaker 11: I think so, I'm pretty sure, Yeah, they had a
- 1:08:50Speaker 11: banger of a match last year.
- 1:08:54Speaker 9: This was not that, yeah, and not not just the
- 1:08:58Speaker 9: rules of this steel cage, but like I mean, isn't
- 1:09:02Speaker 9: the whole point of the steel cage. It's like you're
- 1:09:05Speaker 9: locked in here with me. You're locked. The door is locked.
- 1:09:09Speaker 9: We used to have a chain on the door with
- 1:09:11Speaker 9: locked you know. I I remember one time Mark Henry
- 1:09:15Speaker 9: trying to break into the ring but he couldn't or
- 1:09:17Speaker 9: into the cage because it was locked, and he was
- 1:09:19Speaker 9: able to break that chain off. You know, that was
- 1:09:23Speaker 9: that was a cool moment. But like now they're not
- 1:09:25Speaker 9: even unlocked. It's just you know, just.
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: Holding a pin.
- 1:09:30Speaker 9: Yeah, and you can have the interference because it's a
- 1:09:34Speaker 9: steel cage, So like what's the fucking point, Like just
- 1:09:38Speaker 9: it should be locked and like nobody should be able
- 1:09:40Speaker 9: to get in or out and and you know, yeah,
- 1:09:46Speaker 9: man I the gimmick of this match is what's killing
- 1:09:50Speaker 9: it for me. Uh And these two just couldn't put
- 1:09:53Speaker 9: it on, just couldn't keep me entertainment. Like like you said,
- 1:09:57Speaker 9: we got the the moon saw at the end of
- 1:09:59Speaker 9: the match, you know, and I get why, because you
- 1:10:01Speaker 9: needed enough people to catch him. Probably that's probably why
- 1:10:04Speaker 9: that spot was saved for the end, you know. But
- 1:10:11Speaker 9: poor Jimmy the carriage.
- 1:10:13Speaker 7: It's sound like they had the cage just for that spot.
- 1:10:16Speaker 7: If you only have the cage. If you only have
- 1:10:18Speaker 7: the cage for one spot, you don't need the cage.
- 1:10:21Speaker 9: And ste zip ties. We had handcuffs, by the way,
- 1:10:25Speaker 9: he was able to break.
- 1:10:29Speaker 5: That handcuff them to the top just for him to.
- 1:10:43Speaker 7: And right, yeah, what are you doing?
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: Yeah, and they completely missed it.
- 1:10:50Speaker 11: I guess the point of him being up there was
- 1:10:52Speaker 11: for them to actually catch the moment where he breaks
- 1:10:55Speaker 11: the chain by just yanking it, and then they completely miss.
- 1:10:58Speaker 7: It, missed it.
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: He next thing you know, he's down here, Like, wait,
- 1:11:03Speaker 5: how the fuck did he get down?
- 1:11:04Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 1:11:05Speaker 12: And I thought thee that I thought the tongue of
- 1:11:07Speaker 12: that slammed the cage was turning because I thought he had.
- 1:11:14Speaker 11: Yeah, right there, he hit both of them, but one
- 1:11:18Speaker 11: falls backwards and the other falls out just.
- 1:11:21Speaker 9: The way the match ends, just rolls out the ring.
- 1:11:25Speaker 11: Just I think it would have been a better finish
- 1:11:28Speaker 11: if he if Solo would have got out with Jacob
- 1:11:32Speaker 11: still cuffed to the top, that probably would have made
- 1:11:34Speaker 11: for a better.
- 1:11:34Speaker 5: Finish, way way better.
- 1:11:39Speaker 9: No, Yeah, that's that's my opinion on that match. Man Like,
- 1:11:45Speaker 9: it was definitely a downer. It was not an upper
- 1:11:48Speaker 9: for me. I was I was let down, and again
- 1:11:52Speaker 9: just the more and more of these dumb ass stipulations.
- 1:11:56Speaker 9: You know, slight changes can be made to this match
- 1:11:58Speaker 9: to make it better. You know, it's the rules and
- 1:12:01Speaker 9: and you know, Jesse even tours kind of right. The
- 1:12:03Speaker 9: whole opening the fucking door and walking out just seems
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: dumber and dumber the more I watch it.
- 1:12:09Speaker 11: Exactly In case we were wondering where the hell this
- 1:12:13Speaker 11: goes from here, apparently they're dragging Sammy into this ship
- 1:12:17Speaker 11: because they showed up this past Monday all wrong and
- 1:12:19Speaker 11: whooped his ass for no fucking reason whatsoever.
- 1:12:24Speaker 9: Talking about being confused as ship. He's getting asked with,
- 1:12:27Speaker 9: I'm like, what's going on here?
- 1:12:28Speaker 5: What did he do?
- 1:12:30Speaker 9: Why? Why is this happening? Yeah, they stop, He's already dead.
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: Tweets something to like or something like what the fuck him?
- 1:12:40Speaker 9: And car cross Man, Sammy's just spending his Monday night
- 1:12:45Speaker 9: rolls getting his ass beat. If it's not kring Cross I'm.
- 1:12:49Speaker 11: Never Sammy's ain't ass whooping, But that one just made
- 1:12:55Speaker 11: no sense in que back to oh Man like his
- 1:13:00Speaker 11: ass and in front of his people.
- 1:13:02Speaker 9: Yeah, just like I can just hear like you know,
- 1:13:04Speaker 9: the writers just like throwing that idea by standing. It's like, listen,
- 1:13:08Speaker 9: you're gonna have you win every one of your feuds.
- 1:13:11Speaker 9: You're gonna go to the pay per view and you're
- 1:13:13Speaker 9: gonna win the match, but every interaction in between that
- 1:13:19Speaker 9: you're gonna get your ass whoofed like bad, like real bad.
- 1:13:24Speaker 11: But you get to win the feud, win the match,
- 1:13:28Speaker 11: wearing ass whooping in between.
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So, I don't know.
- 1:13:35Speaker 11: It was just weird to me, like he's having his
- 1:13:38Speaker 11: match and then of all people to show up and
- 1:13:40Speaker 11: just start whooping his ass fu in the NFT out
- 1:13:43Speaker 11: of nowhere.
- 1:13:48Speaker 5: E mean, I.
- 1:13:48Speaker 11: Imagine I was surprised they didn't have him backstage, like
- 1:13:53Speaker 11: freaking Kathy Kelly or somebody trying to interview him backtats
- 1:13:56Speaker 11: like Sammy, are you okay?
- 1:13:58Speaker 5: And he just grabs Mike the what's that about?
- 1:14:04Speaker 9: What the fuck? Solo? Like the bloodline again?
- 1:14:08Speaker 7: Yes?
- 1:14:10Speaker 9: Is this about war Games? Still? That was years ago?
- 1:14:15Speaker 9: Let it go, Let it go, man, jeez, acknowledge you damn.
- 1:14:23Speaker 5: Damn you got any other thoughts on this match of Doyle?
- 1:14:30Speaker 12: No, I mean, it's it's never good when the when
- 1:14:32Speaker 12: the the highlight of the match happens after the match.
- 1:14:35Speaker 7: That's rarely a good time.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:14:41Speaker 11: Oh well, but you know what if if Sammy gets
- 1:14:46Speaker 11: dragged into this beef with the NFT to keep Jay
- 1:14:49Speaker 11: out of his or Ja can stay in the title picture,
- 1:14:52Speaker 11: then I'm okay with it.
- 1:14:54Speaker 5: That'll be my final thought on this.
- 1:14:58Speaker 11: So moving on to next match, Dominic Mysterio defending the
- 1:15:05Speaker 11: Intercontinental Championship against AJ Styles. Now, whereas the last match
- 1:15:11Speaker 11: was a surprising disappointment, this match was a surprising pleaser
- 1:15:17Speaker 11: in the fact that one dope match, good match, AJ
- 1:15:22Speaker 11: and Dom worked really well together, but also surprisingly pleasing
- 1:15:27Speaker 11: in the fact that Dominic Mysterio won clean.
- 1:15:34Speaker 5: Yeah, no judgment, day no nothing.
- 1:15:38Speaker 10: Pulled a little bit of Eddie Guerrero out of his bag. Well, okay,
- 1:15:43Speaker 10: a lot of in this match. A lot of Eddie,
- 1:15:46Speaker 10: I mean the whole match, Yes, was a whole.
- 1:15:50Speaker 5: Yeah, a whole lot of.
- 1:15:51Speaker 11: Eddie in the match, from from AJ Styles his entrance
- 1:15:54Speaker 11: with the low Rider to basically a colone of AJ
- 1:15:58Speaker 11: I mean of Eddie tights from the SummerSlam, the custody
- 1:16:03Speaker 11: of Dom match, the spot, Yeah if he did the
- 1:16:07Speaker 11: shoe spot that he pulled off WrestleMania against Kurt Angle.
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: Yeah that's from the chair spot.
- 1:16:12Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of homages to Eddie.
- 1:16:15Speaker 11: But nevertheless, Dom still retained and picked up a quote
- 1:16:19Speaker 11: unquote clean win.
- 1:16:21Speaker 5: And that surprised me.
- 1:16:22Speaker 11: And I like it because he needed a good, clean
- 1:16:26Speaker 11: wind to you know, legitimize himself even further.
- 1:16:36Speaker 12: I think we're looking at dormy two belts because I
- 1:16:39Speaker 12: think he's getting ready to win.
- 1:16:40Speaker 7: The Triple A Belts. Also, I guess I guess that's
- 1:16:44Speaker 7: uh that Saturday, Yeah, yeah, next Saturday.
- 1:16:49Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:16:50Speaker 7: Well, I wasn't surprised that this was a good match.
- 1:16:53Speaker 7: I was surprised that it was kind of an Eddie
- 1:16:55Speaker 7: Eddie Guerrero tribute, which is fine. Uh.
- 1:17:00Speaker 12: I think it was a little heavy handed. Uh it
- 1:17:03Speaker 12: could they could have turned that down a little bit.
- 1:17:06Speaker 12: Uh and I just think it would have made the
- 1:17:08Speaker 12: spots they did do a little more effective.
- 1:17:10Speaker 7: Uh. But yeah, it was fun. It was definitely fun.
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:17:16Speaker 7: You know, I love to see the the you know,
- 1:17:18Speaker 7: the he hit me with the chair, No, he hit
- 1:17:21Speaker 7: me with the chair. You know that that's fun. But
- 1:17:25Speaker 7: like I said, just just maybe we didn't need the
- 1:17:28Speaker 7: low rider for aging. I mean that kind of didn't
- 1:17:30Speaker 7: make any sense.
- 1:17:31Speaker 12: Uh, you know, maybe we could have We could have
- 1:17:34Speaker 12: I could have done without one or two of the
- 1:17:35Speaker 12: spots or one of the one or two or the
- 1:17:37Speaker 12: things just in the in the the theory that it
- 1:17:41Speaker 12: makes the other things shine a little brighter. But yeah,
- 1:17:45Speaker 12: definitely a fun match. Again, not too long, not too short.
- 1:17:50Speaker 12: So if anything, we could have maybe borrowed a few
- 1:17:54Speaker 12: minutes from Lion in fact for this one. Uh that
- 1:17:57Speaker 12: we should have been okay, But yeah, fun notice for sure,
- 1:18:01Speaker 12: and Don just continues to improve, you know, like I
- 1:18:07Speaker 12: remember the first time, first couple of times I saw Donald,
- 1:18:09Speaker 12: I said, what the fuck is this kid doing on TV?
- 1:18:13Speaker 5: He has no business being on TV.
- 1:18:15Speaker 7: He's green as gray at thinks he looks like a dork.
- 1:18:19Speaker 7: But man, is this kid. This kid's a joy to watch,
- 1:18:23Speaker 7: you know, it's really fun watching him improve. It seems
- 1:18:28Speaker 7: like every week.
- 1:18:29Speaker 12: And god damn, nobody's got that fucking stink heel character
- 1:18:34Speaker 12: he does right now, So good for him.
- 1:18:39Speaker 11: Yeah, I definitely agree with all that. Dom oh Man,
- 1:18:44Speaker 11: twenty's twenty six could be his year. He could really
- 1:18:50Speaker 11: see it. I'm not saying he's I am saying he's
- 1:18:54Speaker 11: gonna win the Rumble in twenty's twenty six and nothing
- 1:18:56Speaker 11: like that. But I can see him. I see money
- 1:19:00Speaker 11: in the bank in this in this future.
- 1:19:02Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got my world title in the next couple
- 1:19:05Speaker 7: of years.
- 1:19:06Speaker 9: Oh for sure. He's like destined for it. He was,
- 1:19:10Speaker 9: he was born into this industry. I mean, the kid's
- 1:19:12Speaker 9: been working with the company since he's what like eleven. Dude,
- 1:19:21Speaker 9: I was.
- 1:19:21Speaker 5: I was suppressed by this mash Man.
- 1:19:23Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it was such an uplifting match after
- 1:19:26Speaker 9: the disappointing one I had before this. You know, I
- 1:19:29Speaker 9: I agree with Doyle, it should have gotten a little
- 1:19:31Speaker 9: bit more time. I mean they had a little over
- 1:19:33Speaker 9: ten minutes. Uh, but I was entertained. And who penciled
- 1:19:39Speaker 9: in Dom winning clean? Because not I not I, But
- 1:19:45Speaker 9: I was impressed as hell, Like okay, like Dom can
- 1:19:50Speaker 9: you know, hold his own. He doesn't need judgment day
- 1:19:53Speaker 9: or you know, three Grand Americanos to save him every
- 1:19:58Speaker 9: every match, you know, every time he has to defend
- 1:20:01Speaker 9: his title, and you know, come on, it's against aj styles,
- 1:20:06Speaker 9: that's just nobody to uh, you know, the sweep under
- 1:20:11Speaker 9: the rug. You know, as agent, he's a former heavyweight,
- 1:20:14Speaker 9: multiple heavyweight champion, you know, former Intercongolal Champion, United States Champion, Like,
- 1:20:20Speaker 9: you know, I I definitely think the rub was good
- 1:20:22Speaker 9: for him for this match, you know. And I hope,
- 1:20:25Speaker 9: I kind of hope the feud's not over with these two.
- 1:20:27Speaker 9: I want to see it. I want to see what
- 1:20:29Speaker 9: else they can do. Uh, I don't think it is.
- 1:20:32Speaker 7: Yeah, A j creeping was fun the last past couple
- 1:20:36Speaker 7: of weeks.
- 1:20:37Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. I know a lot of
- 1:20:40Speaker 9: people were like, are you serious you flew him all
- 1:20:42Speaker 9: the way out here just to dress up like a
- 1:20:44Speaker 9: janitor or something like, yeah, dude, Like he just made
- 1:20:47Speaker 9: it funny. Yeah, just like every week he was just like,
- 1:20:49Speaker 9: you know, stalking Dom, even though Dom's like, you know,
- 1:20:53Speaker 9: I have a doctor's note, Like all the time. I
- 1:20:55Speaker 9: just thought that shit was funny, you know.
- 1:20:58Speaker 11: I apparently was used to cover up a legitimate injury
- 1:21:02Speaker 11: that Dom had. Apparently he dislocated, Yeah, two of his
- 1:21:05Speaker 11: lower ribs.
- 1:21:06Speaker 5: How to fuck do you a rib?
- 1:21:08Speaker 9: But yeah, And I always liked to creative find.
- 1:21:12Speaker 11: That was a nice, fun, creative use of storytelling in
- 1:21:17Speaker 11: spite of an injury.
- 1:21:19Speaker 9: Yeah, And and it's very rare that they do that,
- 1:21:22Speaker 9: you know. And I love that they they do that
- 1:21:24Speaker 9: to buy time and you know, to keep that that
- 1:21:27Speaker 9: wrestler relevant and on TV. You know, I remember like
- 1:21:32Speaker 9: early you know, I don't know, two thousand and two,
- 1:21:35Speaker 9: when Randy Orton had his shoulder injury, and to keep
- 1:21:39Speaker 9: him relevant, they had the Randy Report like every week,
- 1:21:42Speaker 9: So every week you get like like a few minutes
- 1:21:44Speaker 9: and him to sort of promo about his like shoulder
- 1:21:47Speaker 9: health and everything. And he's a snobby about it, but uh,
- 1:21:51Speaker 9: it kept it kept him relevant, you know, Uh while
- 1:21:54Speaker 9: he was out of the ring. I think who who
- 1:21:58Speaker 9: else did that? Recently?
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:22:00Speaker 9: Was it the Miz had an injury and he like
- 1:22:04Speaker 9: came in a wheelchair or something like that for a
- 1:22:06Speaker 9: while and work worth the injury just didn't wrestle. Yeah,
- 1:22:14Speaker 9: I respect Uh anyway, and Doyle, would you say that
- 1:22:22Speaker 9: he might be picking up another title possibly soon at
- 1:22:24Speaker 9: Triple Mania? Is that correct? I think I think they're
- 1:22:29Speaker 9: gonna do it, man, I'd be awesome. I mean, I
- 1:22:33Speaker 9: we did not think that they would let a w
- 1:22:35Speaker 9: W wrestler win and bring over the TNA title, but
- 1:22:39Speaker 9: they fucking did it. So now I believe anything spontis Yeah,
- 1:22:44Speaker 9: and now that they own Triple A. It's very possible.
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: Yeah, dom dos spelts, and like I said before, it.
- 1:22:54Speaker 11: Sets up a very interesting dynamic because he is over
- 1:22:58Speaker 11: as fuck in Triple A.
- 1:23:00Speaker 5: He's not not as a heel.
- 1:23:02Speaker 11: He's over his fucking babyface and Triple A. So it
- 1:23:06Speaker 11: creates a very interesting dynamic. If you have Dominic Mysterio
- 1:23:10Speaker 11: the heel Intercontinental Champion and Dominic Mysterio the babyface Triple
- 1:23:17Speaker 11: A World Champion. That creates a very interesting dynamic that
- 1:23:20Speaker 11: they could tell on TV of him trying to balance
- 1:23:25Speaker 11: the two personas that he would have to portray.
- 1:23:29Speaker 5: Or that exists within him and.
- 1:23:34Speaker 11: Right, and it would be a good way of how
- 1:23:35Speaker 11: you can transition him into being a babyface on the
- 1:23:40Speaker 11: main WWE roster. Like somebody tries to, you know, downplay
- 1:23:46Speaker 11: the Triple A title or you know, that's.
- 1:23:48Speaker 5: Like I mean, or you know, like the Intercontinental chain,
- 1:23:51Speaker 5: that's the real belt.
- 1:23:52Speaker 11: Anybody worry about that little toy belt, and then he
- 1:23:53Speaker 11: gets offended by it, like, now, don't disrespect this belt,
- 1:23:58Speaker 11: you know what I mean? Like to me, I hope
- 1:24:00Speaker 11: they go down that route because I want to see
- 1:24:02Speaker 11: that dynamic and I want to see that that storytelling
- 1:24:05Speaker 11: play out.
- 1:24:07Speaker 9: I did. Like I was just saying, I like how
- 1:24:13Speaker 9: we also got the We mentioned the chair spot where
- 1:24:16Speaker 9: they fake that they get hit with the chair, and
- 1:24:19Speaker 9: AG kind of turned that on him and put that
- 1:24:21Speaker 9: he wore the chair so he got hit. I mean, dude,
- 1:24:25Speaker 9: like twenty years later and that joke is still it's
- 1:24:29Speaker 9: still funny every time I see it, especially when a
- 1:24:32Speaker 9: wrestler does get away with it. You know, like, it's
- 1:24:34Speaker 9: just it's just funny, it's clever. H It's it's just
- 1:24:37Speaker 9: I don't know, you can use it anytime. I'm still
- 1:24:39Speaker 9: gonna like it. Go ahead, Doyle.
- 1:24:43Speaker 7: Oh, I was just gonna say it might be back
- 1:24:45Speaker 7: to the Triple A title. It might be a fun
- 1:24:47Speaker 7: way to put it on ray.
- 1:24:48Speaker 12: Because he's I don't believe it's ever held it, But
- 1:24:53Speaker 12: that kind of throws getting him over as a babyface
- 1:24:56Speaker 12: theory out the window.
- 1:25:01Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure at some point they might
- 1:25:04Speaker 11: put that side along rageous, just because.
- 1:25:11Speaker 9: Yeah, that'll be interesting.
- 1:25:15Speaker 11: Any other thoughts on this match or or AJ's future
- 1:25:21Speaker 11: moving forward.
- 1:25:23Speaker 9: I don't think the feud's over. I don't think we're
- 1:25:26Speaker 9: done yet.
- 1:25:30Speaker 5: I could be either way on it.
- 1:25:33Speaker 11: I mean, I would not be opposed to this feud continuing,
- 1:25:37Speaker 11: but with Dom getting a clean wind, I don't see
- 1:25:39Speaker 11: much reason for it to continue either.
- 1:25:42Speaker 5: So I'm good. I'm good either way.
- 1:25:46Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of U between the Triple
- 1:25:53Speaker 7: A stuff and the Jumpman Day drama and this AJ feud.
- 1:25:58Speaker 12: Yeah, something probably, you know, probably one of the one
- 1:26:02Speaker 12: of the stories probably is time to wrap it up.
- 1:26:05Speaker 7: And it seems like the Triple anything is just starting.
- 1:26:07Speaker 7: So I'm talking to read that I'm not going to
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: be the Judging Day stuff because that's been going on
- 1:26:11Speaker 7: since time began. That It's like, right, so then something's
- 1:26:17Speaker 7: gonna be get We'll see what happened.
- 1:26:22Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, we're ready to talk about this Match
- 1:26:28Speaker 11: of the Year candidate main event, so for Cody Rhodes
- 1:26:36Speaker 11: versus John Cena for the WWE Championship, a match that
- 1:26:44Speaker 11: went on for thirty seven damn near thirty eight minutes
- 1:26:49Speaker 11: and was a absolute banger of a match. This was
- 1:26:57Speaker 11: a this is the type of main event that you're
- 1:27:00Speaker 11: supposed to get. This, this is the match we should
- 1:27:05Speaker 11: have gotten at WrestleMania. They damn show made up for.
- 1:27:08Speaker 5: It in this one.
- 1:27:09Speaker 11: This was a main event all caps in every sense
- 1:27:13Speaker 11: of the word that you're supposed to get, so I'm
- 1:27:16Speaker 11: glad that they gave us that. But Cody Roads won
- 1:27:24Speaker 11: defeated John Cena to become a now two times WWE champion,
- 1:27:31Speaker 11: which apparently they have now finally dropped the undisputed from it.
- 1:27:37Speaker 11: I think I've seen some people towing like some screenshots
- 1:27:39Speaker 11: or whatever where I guess on ww's website it just
- 1:27:42Speaker 11: says WWE Champion and not undisputed anymore.
- 1:27:47Speaker 5: I don't know, let me look that up real quick.
- 1:27:48Speaker 11: But but while I seeking on that, I said the
- 1:27:58Speaker 11: match lived up to the hype that we had from
- 1:28:02Speaker 11: WrestleMania what we should have gotten. Okay, I'm wrong. Nope,
- 1:28:07Speaker 11: WW website still says undisputed w W Champion. They really
- 1:28:10Speaker 11: need to drop that. Stupid as shit.
- 1:28:13Speaker 12: H Well, Hayman said. Hayman referred to Seth's bout as
- 1:28:18Speaker 12: undisputed this week. First of all, none of them are disputed,
- 1:28:24Speaker 12: but they certainly can't both be undispirited.
- 1:28:27Speaker 5: Right like, just just say w W Champion and World
- 1:28:32Speaker 5: Heavyweight Champion.
- 1:28:33Speaker 7: That's how I always was in the in the.
- 1:28:37Speaker 11: Era, right exactly. Yeah, yeah, one was w W champion.
- 1:28:41Speaker 11: That one was the world heavyweight champion period. No need
- 1:28:47Speaker 11: to overthink it.
- 1:28:50Speaker 5: But AnyWho match ends, Cody's is won.
- 1:28:56Speaker 11: He walks off, Johnson is getting his flowers, getting the
- 1:29:01Speaker 11: adulation of the crowd.
- 1:29:04Speaker 5: Good show, everything's over.
- 1:29:08Speaker 9: And then oh, I could play it for you if
- 1:29:11Speaker 9: you like, sir, but you could have just hit the music.
- 1:29:17Speaker 9: Oh wait, not that one. Sorry, that was night one.
- 1:29:21Speaker 9: How can we ever raise the excitement higher than Night one?
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: Oh wait, waities, that gentleman enjoyed us while you can't.
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: We have four months left to enjoy the greatness that
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: is John Cena.
- 1:29:54Speaker 5: Sha. Yeah, so let's not kid ourselves.
- 1:30:05Speaker 11: Well, yeah, Brocklesner returned, and let's not kid ourselves. That
- 1:30:10Speaker 11: shit shocked every fucking body. Yeah, And in that regard,
- 1:30:18Speaker 11: it worked it because there was not a single rumor
- 1:30:25Speaker 11: anywhere about his return. Now, maybe in retrospect again, twenty
- 1:30:32Speaker 11: hindsight being twenty twenty, maybe we should have seen something
- 1:30:35Speaker 11: because there was virtually no talk about Brocklester whatsoever. And
- 1:30:39Speaker 11: then suddenly the week of SummerSlam, you got Daniel Cormier
- 1:30:44Speaker 11: talking out there talking about Brocklester's been blacklisted by TKO
- 1:30:48Speaker 11: and he's never going to return. Why the fuck are
- 1:30:50Speaker 11: you talking about Brocklesser out of nowhere all of a sudden,
- 1:30:54Speaker 11: So again hindsight twenty twenty. But in that moment, my
- 1:30:59Speaker 11: fuck jaw hit the floor, as did everybody else is
- 1:31:04Speaker 11: in that arena, and all that shock the shit at everybody.
- 1:31:09Speaker 11: Now after that, we'll see, but the moment did what
- 1:31:14Speaker 11: the mama was supposed to do. The match itself was
- 1:31:18Speaker 11: fucking phenomenal, you know. Dave Meltzer gave it a five
- 1:31:22Speaker 11: star for whatever that's worth nowadays. But I had no
- 1:31:28Speaker 11: complaints about this match.
- 1:31:29Speaker 3: It was.
- 1:31:30Speaker 11: It was at a point where, and it doesn't happen
- 1:31:33Speaker 11: too often, where I genuinely did not know who the
- 1:31:36Speaker 11: fuck was gonna win this match. It reached that point
- 1:31:40Speaker 11: after all the finishes and the potential, I mean countless
- 1:31:45Speaker 11: as AA's off the freaking top rope Cody Cuttings Crossroads, Huh.
- 1:31:52Speaker 7: I think it was an eight.
- 1:31:54Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:31:56Speaker 11: The finisher after finisher after finisher after spot after spot
- 1:31:59Speaker 11: after and they just kept kicking the fuck out. This
- 1:32:06Speaker 11: was definitely, this is the best match Scene has had
- 1:32:08Speaker 11: all year. This was seeing it definitely turned back the
- 1:32:12Speaker 11: clock on this shit. I mean, we even had Cody
- 1:32:17Speaker 11: doing helish tactics by taking off the freaking bottom rope
- 1:32:21Speaker 11: and laying seeing.
- 1:32:22Speaker 5: It out with it. That shit didn't want enough to
- 1:32:25Speaker 5: get a three. It was like goddamn.
- 1:32:29Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:32:30Speaker 11: So yeah, this match Chef's kiss five stars. Like I said,
- 1:32:37Speaker 11: match of the Year candidate. Definitely were you had on
- 1:32:42Speaker 11: this one?
- 1:32:42Speaker 5: Wayne?
- 1:32:44Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, man, Like definitely one of Johnson's best
- 1:32:47Speaker 9: matches since he's been back. Thirty or thirty seven minutes
- 1:32:52Speaker 9: and forty five seconds. Totally shit. I mean I got
- 1:32:56Speaker 9: the night prior, we got the punk Gunter Matchress about
- 1:33:00Speaker 9: thirty minutes long, so letting these guys really fucking cook.
- 1:33:07Speaker 9: But I mean the entrances were great. We had Cody
- 1:33:11Speaker 9: Rhodes had this really unique another unique mass that he
- 1:33:14Speaker 9: came out with. But really got me was the Johnson entrance.
- 1:33:19Speaker 9: You know, they got the black and white background and
- 1:33:22Speaker 9: you know, because this is he literally turned face the
- 1:33:24Speaker 9: day prior, you know, two days or two days prior,
- 1:33:28Speaker 9: so you know, what's he gonna come out with just
- 1:33:31Speaker 9: the that's what he's had us accustomed to right now,
- 1:33:34Speaker 9: just this black and white John Cena, you know background,
- 1:33:37Speaker 9: and they got us there you know, they they have
- 1:33:42Speaker 9: it and then all of a sudden, all the lights
- 1:33:44Speaker 9: come on, all the different colors, and the crowd just
- 1:33:46Speaker 9: fucking pops for it. Man, Like, I think this is
- 1:33:49Speaker 9: where I'm going to start really enjoying his retirement because
- 1:33:53Speaker 9: he's having fun now like he's having I mean, we
- 1:33:56Speaker 9: know he's been having fun, you know, running it back
- 1:33:58Speaker 9: with or and running it back Honkin, you know, other
- 1:34:01Speaker 9: guys that he's wrestled with before, you know, running it
- 1:34:06Speaker 9: back again with Cody. But this is this was the
- 1:34:09Speaker 9: what a lot of people are saying the passing of
- 1:34:11Speaker 9: the torch. You know, a lot of people believe WrestleMania
- 1:34:17Speaker 9: eighteen was the passing of the torch when when Hogan,
- 1:34:22Speaker 9: you know, got defeated by the Rock and then you know,
- 1:34:27Speaker 9: then we had the passing of the torch of Rock
- 1:34:29Speaker 9: and Sena and now this is the passing of the
- 1:34:32Speaker 9: torch from Sena to Cody. This match had everything, man,
- 1:34:38Speaker 9: it was fantastic. It had all the finishers, and I agree, man, like,
- 1:34:43Speaker 9: there there was there was times where I just I
- 1:34:45Speaker 9: was like, oh my god, like I can't believe it.
- 1:34:47Speaker 9: Like I was like, you know, that's it. There's no way,
- 1:34:51Speaker 9: he's done, he's cooked, you know, man kicks out. We
- 1:34:55Speaker 9: even had the unique uh John Cena me up out
- 1:35:00Speaker 9: of the stage with Cody Roads on his shoulders, going
- 1:35:03Speaker 9: getting ready for the AA just to look on his face.
- 1:35:05Speaker 9: He couldn't even contain it. He wanted to smile.
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: So that.
- 1:35:10Speaker 9: Spot, you know, we had, we had pile drivers, we
- 1:35:12Speaker 9: had Cody cutters, crossroads, you know as everywhere, we had
- 1:35:17Speaker 9: broken tables and now tables were broken. And finally, you know,
- 1:35:24Speaker 9: the crowd one nuts for for you know, he Cody
- 1:35:29Speaker 9: put like had to put two crossroads on him to
- 1:35:32Speaker 9: put him away, you know, and then then he did
- 1:35:38Speaker 9: our Cody cutter through the table like it was.
- 1:35:42Speaker 7: It was.
- 1:35:42Speaker 9: It was insane all the spots.
- 1:35:44Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:35:46Speaker 9: And to talk light on I guess well after we're
- 1:35:49Speaker 9: done when we'll talk more on Brockleisner. But uh, Doyle,
- 1:35:53Speaker 9: what do you.
- 1:35:53Speaker 7: Think the event? I did? Like this, but it's probably
- 1:36:02Speaker 7: gonna sound like I didn't.
- 1:36:06Speaker 12: I could have done without so many spam finishers and
- 1:36:09Speaker 12: so many takeouts, and it just seemed like.
- 1:36:13Speaker 7: A bit much to me.
- 1:36:15Speaker 12: Was it being in the WrestleMania match, Yes, but that
- 1:36:18Speaker 12: match is also fucking horrible, So it wasn't that hard
- 1:36:23Speaker 12: to beat.
- 1:36:24Speaker 7: I think Sena is definitely I think it's real for
- 1:36:29Speaker 7: him now, does that make sense?
- 1:36:31Speaker 12: And I think going forward the rest of his matches,
- 1:36:34Speaker 12: he was going to be progressively better and better and
- 1:36:37Speaker 12: more fun.
- 1:36:38Speaker 7: And I think he shook off some of the ring rust.
- 1:36:43Speaker 12: And be I don't think he's as worried about surviving
- 1:36:47Speaker 12: the year maybe as he was in February.
- 1:36:51Speaker 7: So I think he can.
- 1:36:52Speaker 12: Frankly let it hang out a little bit more, you know,
- 1:36:54Speaker 12: because there's not only probably only four or five matches left, right,
- 1:37:00Speaker 12: so it's kind.
- 1:37:00Speaker 7: Of like a leave it all out of the field
- 1:37:03Speaker 7: kind of thing for him, hopefully, Let's listen.
- 1:37:06Speaker 12: I mean, the story just made no fucking The hem
- 1:37:10Speaker 12: turn was awful. The back to the face turn was
- 1:37:12Speaker 12: pretty awful.
- 1:37:13Speaker 7: Like I I guess, if anything.
- 1:37:16Speaker 12: They saw that it wasn't working and they just said,
- 1:37:19Speaker 12: fuck it, let's just have fun with him for the
- 1:37:21Speaker 12: rest of the time we have him for But I
- 1:37:23Speaker 12: guess if anything into trying to come up with some
- 1:37:26Speaker 12: contrived ass thing, they just said, oh on the baby face,
- 1:37:30Speaker 12: now everybody loves me again, you know, I guess, instead
- 1:37:35Speaker 12: of wasting more time trying to come up with some
- 1:37:37Speaker 12: convoluted When I said I sold this, I sold in
- 1:37:41Speaker 12: the rock.
- 1:37:41Speaker 7: I didn't, you know, bring it him back and.
- 1:37:43Speaker 12: Trying to red col all this ship. I'm good they
- 1:37:45Speaker 12: didn't go that route. I thought that I thought the
- 1:37:50Speaker 12: women's triple threat matches. So I don't know if this
- 1:37:54Speaker 12: is my match of the year, but definitely, definitely. I
- 1:37:59Speaker 12: think somebody said the best matching has had to be back.
- 1:38:02Speaker 7: Absolutely no one. One of the better Accony matches in
- 1:38:06Speaker 7: a while. So I know, I know I liked it,
- 1:38:10Speaker 7: but I love like you guys did, but I didn't
- 1:38:14Speaker 7: like it very very much. That's for brock We'll get
- 1:38:19Speaker 7: into I guess should we just start.
- 1:38:23Speaker 9: Yeah, let's get right into it, man, and like come on,
- 1:38:25Speaker 9: like we nobody expected brock Lesson to return, like there
- 1:38:29Speaker 9: was there was like dras reports on other you know services.
- 1:38:34Speaker 9: I was just saying, like, you know, he's just not
- 1:38:36Speaker 9: coming back. He's done. He's he's happy with not never
- 1:38:40Speaker 9: wrestling ever again. You know, he has the money he needs.
- 1:38:43Speaker 9: We've seen him take public photos of him with his
- 1:38:45Speaker 9: family like he's out doing things.
- 1:38:50Speaker 7: Because he didn't want to right exactly.
- 1:38:53Speaker 9: We know that we know they originally had others.
- 1:38:57Speaker 7: He was, yeah, exactly, Yeah, well, I mean he well,
- 1:39:02Speaker 7: there's the thing.
- 1:39:03Speaker 12: It kind of gets what I was saying earlier about
- 1:39:05Speaker 12: like shock for shock's sake, which is what this.
- 1:39:07Speaker 7: Seems like, because he's still involved. I mean, granted, he's
- 1:39:12Speaker 7: not a defendant and he has not.
- 1:39:14Speaker 12: Been proven that he did anything untoward in the court
- 1:39:18Speaker 12: of law Shore, but he is named in.
- 1:39:20Speaker 7: This ongoing lawsuit against vinsic Man. If you read through
- 1:39:25Speaker 7: some of those documents.
- 1:39:26Speaker 12: Like it doesn't sound like he ever actually met up
- 1:39:29Speaker 12: with this woman, but he did send her horrible text
- 1:39:32Speaker 12: messages and did request and receive weird videos from her,
- 1:39:38Speaker 12: and it's and moreover.
- 1:39:40Speaker 7: It's it's and it's just it's w W. There's the
- 1:39:43Speaker 7: whole company's association with these sex pests that just never
- 1:39:48Speaker 7: goes away. You know, you have Vince obviously, who has
- 1:39:51Speaker 7: two cases against him. Linda is involved in one of
- 1:39:54Speaker 7: those cases. But then you had Triple A two also
- 1:39:58Speaker 7: just that very week, the same week that brought back the.
- 1:40:00Speaker 15: Guy who's incredible accusations of sexual assault is standing up
- 1:40:06Speaker 15: with the president who is incredibly charged with sexual assault,
- 1:40:10Speaker 15: next to Bobby Kennedy, who is incredibly germaned of sexual assault.
- 1:40:14Speaker 12: Uh, you know, and with Lawrence Taylor who's on the
- 1:40:16Speaker 12: fucking sex Offender Registry, And every.
- 1:40:19Speaker 7: Time the show ends, you see Lee Fitting who used
- 1:40:21Speaker 7: to work in ESPN.
- 1:40:22Speaker 12: Why doesn't they work in ESPN anymore because he gone
- 1:40:24Speaker 12: charge of sexual assault.
- 1:40:25Speaker 7: It's just like, what the fuck can we just say
- 1:40:28Speaker 7: we don't want anything to do with these people. At
- 1:40:30Speaker 7: a certain point, Practice been the highest paid performer.
- 1:40:35Speaker 12: And he's still been under contract this whole time. He
- 1:40:37Speaker 12: makes more money than anybody else. To not do anything
- 1:40:40Speaker 12: for the past two years, I think it is that
- 1:40:43Speaker 12: he hasn't been on TV, and it's just like, when
- 1:40:46Speaker 12: can we just stop fucking employing these fucking people. You know,
- 1:40:52Speaker 12: if he gets generated and they're saying he never did
- 1:40:54Speaker 12: any nothing, had nothing to do with anything, fine, But
- 1:40:57Speaker 12: until that happens, I don't want to hear from.
- 1:41:03Speaker 11: Yeah, very valid, very valid, granted, supposedly WWE legal cleared
- 1:41:10Speaker 11: him quote unquote whatever the hell that means.
- 1:41:12Speaker 5: And even if they cleared him of any.
- 1:41:16Speaker 11: Legal liability by whatever standard or metric they use, that
- 1:41:21Speaker 11: still doesn't clear him morally or clear him in the
- 1:41:26Speaker 11: public eye. And I think that's been seen in how
- 1:41:31Speaker 11: it's as shocking as the moment was and as viral
- 1:41:34Speaker 11: as the moment was.
- 1:41:35Speaker 5: Since then, reaction to his return has been very mixed.
- 1:41:39Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they canceled. They canceled after the prince conference,
- 1:41:44Speaker 7: after the town because.
- 1:41:45Speaker 11: They knew, good damn well, they wasn't trying to hear
- 1:41:48Speaker 11: them questions, right exactly. Yeah, like triple ah ain't wont
- 1:41:53Speaker 11: none of that smoke from people because they because probably
- 1:41:58Speaker 11: because they learned their fucking lesson from events ship.
- 1:42:02Speaker 16: Right, it feels like like, like I said, maybe he
- 1:42:05Speaker 16: didn't do anything, and maybe that will be proven, but
- 1:42:07Speaker 16: maybe he did do something, and maybe it's a lot
- 1:42:09Speaker 16: worse than we think, and maybe all that will come
- 1:42:11Speaker 16: out in the in this lawsuit, and if they brought
- 1:42:14Speaker 16: him back, they're gonna look even worse.
- 1:42:19Speaker 5: Yeah, Like imagine that they're gonna look horrible.
- 1:42:24Speaker 11: Yeah, Like imagine he has an upcoming major match at
- 1:42:27Speaker 11: a p l E or something like that, and there's
- 1:42:29Speaker 11: some new information comes out and that's a lawsuit that's
- 1:42:33Speaker 11: horribly you know, indicting on Lesner.
- 1:42:39Speaker 5: That's gonna be a hell of a bad look for them.
- 1:42:42Speaker 7: I mean, the ship that's in the court documents. Maybe
- 1:42:44Speaker 7: isn't criminal, but it's not a thing that nice people,
- 1:42:48Speaker 7: you know.
- 1:42:48Speaker 11: Yeah, it's definitely reprehensible. I mean, correct about that.
- 1:42:57Speaker 9: Do you hear that they uh, they brought Brock back
- 1:43:02Speaker 9: to face Sina for his last match. It's gonna be
- 1:43:07Speaker 9: on the same night.
- 1:43:08Speaker 12: As Yeah, Triple H is saying uh oh, Christina wanted
- 1:43:17Speaker 12: them to come back, and then seeing it comes out
- 1:43:18Speaker 12: and says I never said that.
- 1:43:20Speaker 7: I have no control over that.
- 1:43:23Speaker 12: And we want to cry, we want to cross, and
- 1:43:28Speaker 12: Triple You're there saying we want to Brook, we want to.
- 1:43:31Speaker 5: Broke, you want you got him? Not what we said.
- 1:43:35Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't think it's the last match, because that's
- 1:43:41Speaker 12: that's that's not in December.
- 1:43:43Speaker 7: I think seeing this last matches like the end of December, right.
- 1:43:46Speaker 12: Yeah, still show that they're putting up against a w
- 1:43:52Speaker 12: isn't that right?
- 1:43:54Speaker 7: That's when when Lesnar and Senior are supposed to face
- 1:43:58Speaker 7: the shooting for But that's that's not supposed to be
- 1:44:01Speaker 7: his last night.
- 1:44:03Speaker 12: Discussion who should get seen his last match is an
- 1:44:06Speaker 12: interesting discussion to have, maybe not.
- 1:44:07Speaker 7: Right the second.
- 1:44:10Speaker 5: Yeah, my early vote would be Drew McIntire, great choice.
- 1:44:19Speaker 7: I mean, I think it needs to be somebody that
- 1:44:21Speaker 7: can use the rob and isn't gonna.
- 1:44:26Speaker 11: Waste it, you know, like, Yeah, the first thing you
- 1:44:30Speaker 11: have to decide is is John gonna lose or win
- 1:44:33Speaker 11: his last match?
- 1:44:34Speaker 5: Well?
- 1:44:34Speaker 11: Yeah, is he going to have his last match to
- 1:44:37Speaker 11: go out on top with a win and the celebration
- 1:44:40Speaker 11: or is he going to use his last match to
- 1:44:42Speaker 11: do what the old wrestlers did and go out on
- 1:44:44Speaker 11: his back and give the rub to somebody else? Depending
- 1:44:48Speaker 11: on that decision, I think that determines who you go
- 1:44:51Speaker 11: for for his last opponent.
- 1:44:53Speaker 5: If he's going to go out on his bag, I
- 1:44:55Speaker 5: don't think it should be Bro.
- 1:44:58Speaker 7: Yeah, I think yeah, the Undertaker straight, I think that's
- 1:45:01Speaker 7: enough for him.
- 1:45:03Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:45:03Speaker 11: I think if he's gonna if he's gonna go out
- 1:45:06Speaker 11: on his back, then I would vote Drew as his
- 1:45:09Speaker 11: last dependent. Yeah, because I think Drew should win if
- 1:45:13Speaker 11: he's gonna.
- 1:45:13Speaker 7: Go actually capitalized right, if he's.
- 1:45:17Speaker 5: Gonna go out on a win. H Fuck.
- 1:45:22Speaker 11: I don't know, because I feel like it needs to
- 1:45:23Speaker 11: be a worthwhile name. But oh, you already pulled the
- 1:45:31Speaker 11: Rady card already, You've pulled to see him punk card already.
- 1:45:36Speaker 11: I don't know who that you haven't facing the final
- 1:45:38Speaker 11: match to go over with. Maybe I'll say, maybe be.
- 1:45:47Speaker 9: A good one. Yeah, I kind of like that idea,
- 1:45:52Speaker 9: him being the one to put him away.
- 1:45:56Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:45:57Speaker 11: Maybe maybe maybe a gunster could be a good candidate
- 1:46:00Speaker 11: a final opponent if he's gonna go out that way,
- 1:46:05Speaker 11: or maybe he just has a match just for the
- 1:46:07Speaker 11: fuck of it, Like it doesn't need a storyline, doesn't
- 1:46:10Speaker 11: need a heel. It's just like you, you like, he
- 1:46:14Speaker 11: picks some young guy, you know, like you give me
- 1:46:17Speaker 11: what you got, you're my last opponent, and he just
- 1:46:20Speaker 11: goes out there, just.
- 1:46:21Speaker 5: Has a banger of a fucking match with somebody.
- 1:46:26Speaker 11: Exactly who I was thinking, Yeah, like a Carmelo Hayes
- 1:46:28Speaker 11: or somebody, and he just gets the rub. And maybe
- 1:46:31Speaker 11: seeing against somebody that'd be a hell of Oh it
- 1:46:37Speaker 11: would be major. I don't be surprised if they did
- 1:46:39Speaker 11: an NXT call up for Sena's final match.
- 1:46:41Speaker 5: That'd be bold as hell.
- 1:46:44Speaker 11: I could see like a mellow somebody that could put
- 1:46:47Speaker 11: on a hell of a match with Sina and win
- 1:46:50Speaker 11: or lose, come out looking great just from getting the rub.
- 1:46:53Speaker 5: That could be a good a good idea.
- 1:46:56Speaker 9: Mm hmm. Yeah, I mean I'm really intrigued to see
- 1:47:02Speaker 9: where this goes with Rock. How long are they going
- 1:47:05Speaker 9: to drag this feud out? Is that if this is
- 1:47:07Speaker 9: the last few like I don't.
- 1:47:08Speaker 5: Know, but.
- 1:47:11Speaker 7: Then yeah, for Slackdown, it's like a month a month
- 1:47:21Speaker 7: the next cup.
- 1:47:22Speaker 12: Like it kind of seems silly also, Yeah, and it
- 1:47:26Speaker 12: just seems like we're doing a shock for the sake
- 1:47:28Speaker 12: of doing a shock without even thinking about what comes next.
- 1:47:32Speaker 7: You know.
- 1:47:34Speaker 11: Yeah, because you've got two basic part timers, you know,
- 1:47:38Speaker 11: seeing as part timing now because he's got limited dates,
- 1:47:41Speaker 11: Lesner been fucking part timing since twenty twelve or whatever.
- 1:47:48Speaker 5: So how do you build up this match?
- 1:47:52Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean remember one thing it was I said like, oh,
- 1:47:55Speaker 7: you know, grab a mic.
- 1:47:56Speaker 12: And I'm coming back for you sometime, or you know,
- 1:47:59Speaker 12: like we're just getting nothing for a month to two
- 1:48:03Speaker 12: just doesn't didn't think much of it.
- 1:48:07Speaker 7: Everything's gonna be.
- 1:48:07Speaker 5: Talking about it, okay, right, we'll figure out the rest later.
- 1:48:15Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
- 1:48:18Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll see.
- 1:48:21Speaker 11: Also sidebar side what I said, bar, but just getting
- 1:48:25Speaker 11: back to the match himself, John Cena yeating them goddamn
- 1:48:29Speaker 11: chairs and Cody Rhodes. I laughed my fucking ass off
- 1:48:34Speaker 11: when he threw them because he threw the ship as
- 1:48:37Speaker 11: hard as funk and I thought he I thought Cody
- 1:48:39Speaker 11: legitimately fucked up his arm, right, Oh, this.
- 1:48:42Speaker 12: Man, this match should made me laugh out loud a
- 1:48:44Speaker 12: couple of times, like in a good way.
- 1:48:49Speaker 11: Very I just wanted to bring up that moment because
- 1:48:52Speaker 11: that was one of the most where I audibly said
- 1:48:54Speaker 11: damn when it happened.
- 1:48:57Speaker 9: I'm wanting to bring up any of you guys finished
- 1:49:00Speaker 9: ww unreal.
- 1:49:03Speaker 5: I still have not gone back and watched the last
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: episode yet.
- 1:49:06Speaker 9: No, Okay, well, it's nice to slow burn. I mean,
- 1:49:09Speaker 9: like because you know there's gonna be another season.
- 1:49:13Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:49:13Speaker 11: They already said they're bringing more episodes next year, which
- 1:49:16Speaker 11: my guess is probably going to cover WrestleMania to Summer Slam,
- 1:49:20Speaker 11: if I had to venture a guess, or maybe the
- 1:49:24Speaker 11: maybe leading the build up to Summer Slam, and then
- 1:49:27Speaker 11: it'll probably be Summer Slam into the Fall. But it's
- 1:49:30Speaker 11: definitely gonna cover at least part of Summer Slam, right
- 1:49:34Speaker 11: or the build up.
- 1:49:36Speaker 12: Yeah, and you gotta figure they're gonna be building some
- 1:49:38Speaker 12: kind of only focusing on John Cen that kind of thing.
- 1:49:43Speaker 7: Oh yeah, last here in the last couple of months.
- 1:49:50Speaker 9: Doctor.
- 1:49:50Speaker 5: Definitely one episode.
- 1:49:52Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I could because that definitely see either one
- 1:49:56Speaker 11: episode of Unreal Being just John Cena or Johnson to getting.
- 1:50:00Speaker 5: His own documentary.
- 1:50:02Speaker 11: Yeah, like his own documentary like john you know, Johnson
- 1:50:05Speaker 11: to The Final Time is Now or whatever a Netflix
- 1:50:07Speaker 11: docuseries or something.
- 1:50:09Speaker 5: I could definitely see that happening.
- 1:50:13Speaker 7: Yeah, I watched some of it. It's pretty interesting.
- 1:50:16Speaker 12: I questioned how authentic some of it is, But then again,
- 1:50:20Speaker 12: I think anything to see on the promise show just
- 1:50:23Speaker 12: to stare as the work, even if they're telling me
- 1:50:26Speaker 12: explicitly it is not.
- 1:50:27Speaker 7: You know, some of those writing room scenes I think
- 1:50:29Speaker 7: are kind of are kind of put together or for
- 1:50:34Speaker 7: the cameras, right.
- 1:50:37Speaker 5: That's it exactly.
- 1:50:38Speaker 11: Yeah, it's some most where it definitely feels like they
- 1:50:41Speaker 11: know the cameras right there. Yeah, like you're not really
- 1:50:44Speaker 11: catching an authentic moment like you think you are. It's like,
- 1:50:48Speaker 11: here's the framing, all right, you stand here, you stand here,
- 1:50:50Speaker 11: and y'all talk about such and such and go.
- 1:50:53Speaker 12: That's something like you know, some of them, it is
- 1:50:55Speaker 12: certainly authentic, I think, you know, Chelsea Green giving us
- 1:50:59Speaker 12: a tour of her closet.
- 1:51:00Speaker 7: I think it's you know, I and that something's fun.
- 1:51:05Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, stuff like that is fun, but it's not
- 1:51:07Speaker 11: really unreal quote unquote.
- 1:51:10Speaker 5: It's just more of like a typical highlight.
- 1:51:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:51:13Speaker 12: And even like some of the some of the the
- 1:51:16Speaker 12: influencer kids that got the ship knocked out of him
- 1:51:19Speaker 12: at the Royal Rumble.
- 1:51:22Speaker 7: They almost play that like it was legitimate, and it's
- 1:51:26Speaker 7: just like, obviously this is not you know.
- 1:51:31Speaker 5: Yeah, they will be played it off.
- 1:51:33Speaker 7: Like it was like it was a surprise or something
- 1:51:36Speaker 7: behind the scenes.
- 1:51:37Speaker 11: You get of that is maybe Triple Ah when he's
- 1:51:39Speaker 11: talking to st saying all right, y'all go to talk
- 1:51:41Speaker 11: right here, like you know, setting up like the shot.
- 1:51:44Speaker 5: Yeah, like that's behind the scenes, yes, but it's about it.
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: H m hm.
- 1:51:51Speaker 12: I questioned some of the the reality of this reality show,
- 1:51:54Speaker 12: but it's fun.
- 1:51:56Speaker 7: Nonetheless, I like more than I thought I would.
- 1:52:04Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty much of the same mindset.
- 1:52:08Speaker 9: Yeah, I actually enjoyed pretty much too. I'm waiting for
- 1:52:11Speaker 9: the second season. I'm already amped up. I did watch
- 1:52:14Speaker 9: last night. I watched it again, but I watched Happy
- 1:52:17Speaker 9: Gilmore and I because now I knew a little bit
- 1:52:22Speaker 9: more going into it, and I did see Nikki Bella
- 1:52:25Speaker 9: like she wasn't it. I was like, oh shit, you
- 1:52:28Speaker 9: were in it a lot actually, just no real lines.
- 1:52:33Speaker 9: She looked like she was Becky Lynch's caddie in the movie.
- 1:52:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:52:40Speaker 7: And then MJF Becky La had like a line or
- 1:52:44Speaker 7: two yeah.
- 1:52:45Speaker 9: Yeah, really not even a big line either, so.
- 1:52:47Speaker 7: They had darted like she was. Thirdly, I know they did.
- 1:52:54Speaker 9: I love it. I love it when when, especially as
- 1:52:56Speaker 9: a heel wrestler, talking herself up like she had a
- 1:52:58Speaker 9: huge part in that movie. And then you find out what.
- 1:53:01Speaker 7: I can't wait till this till this Live Morgan movie
- 1:53:03Speaker 7: comes out and she has two lines in it. She
- 1:53:06Speaker 7: was the star and momby and she was back in
- 1:53:10Speaker 7: two weeks, Like.
- 1:53:15Speaker 11: Right, don't let that movie come out on a slow
- 1:53:17Speaker 11: box office weekend and they're funk around to be number
- 1:53:19Speaker 11: one or some ship.
- 1:53:21Speaker 7: Yeah, the number one movie in the world.
- 1:53:25Speaker 5: You ain't gonna be able to ship.
- 1:53:30Speaker 9: Yeah that's funny. Yeah, dude, that's that's all I got.
- 1:53:37Speaker 9: You guys, got anything else to want to plug and
- 1:53:39Speaker 9: talk about?
- 1:53:42Speaker 11: Nothing really of No, I haven't been checking out n
- 1:53:46Speaker 11: x T lately, so I can't speak to anything that's
- 1:53:48Speaker 11: coming up on heat Wave. I need to get back
- 1:53:50Speaker 11: on that next though. It's been since I really tuned in,
- 1:53:54Speaker 11: And other than that, I'm looking.
- 1:53:55Speaker 5: Forward to try.
- 1:53:58Speaker 7: It will be at n XT this next week. I'm
- 1:54:01Speaker 7: getting paid. I'll be getting paid to attend.
- 1:54:05Speaker 9: Fancy.
- 1:54:08Speaker 5: Yeah, so look for me.
- 1:54:10Speaker 7: Probably not right at all.
- 1:54:15Speaker 12: Collision in a couple of weeks to the Collision, and
- 1:54:19Speaker 12: AW is going to be at the DCW Arena for
- 1:54:23Speaker 12: a couple of weeks.
- 1:54:25Speaker 5: Yeah, a W has been here. I've gotten a ticket
- 1:54:28Speaker 5: to either one of the shows.
- 1:54:30Speaker 9: Alive.
- 1:54:33Speaker 11: It keeps falling on days where my work schedule doesn't
- 1:54:35Speaker 11: really work out, and even this back down that's coming
- 1:54:39Speaker 11: to Norfolk next month is on a If it had
- 1:54:43Speaker 11: been one week later, it would have been perfect for
- 1:54:45Speaker 11: me because it would have fallen on my three day
- 1:54:48Speaker 11: weekend where I'm off Friday, Saturday and Sunday. But nope,
- 1:54:51Speaker 11: Instead it wants to be on the weekend where I
- 1:54:54Speaker 11: work that Saturday and I'm not really trying to get
- 1:54:58Speaker 11: off work at six o'clock try to haul ass to
- 1:55:01Speaker 11: Norfolk to get to the show, which is going to
- 1:55:05Speaker 11: be hella traffic and all that, then get off from
- 1:55:11Speaker 11: whenever the show ends, get back across the water home
- 1:55:16Speaker 11: and then have to turn around Saturday morning and get
- 1:55:18Speaker 11: up for work. So I'm trying to see if I
- 1:55:19Speaker 11: can get somebody to cover that Saturday for me, and
- 1:55:23Speaker 11: if so, then I will probably attend SmackDown.
- 1:55:32Speaker 5: Right on, yeah, right on?
- 1:55:35Speaker 9: Uh, doil anything else you want to plug before we go?
- 1:55:38Speaker 9: Where can the people find you?
- 1:55:39Speaker 12: Oh? Oh, you know, just on the discord and uh,
- 1:55:43Speaker 12: if you're saying some time, just to give us this
- 1:55:45Speaker 12: Facebook page you like, I really appreciate it.
- 1:55:49Speaker 9: Ray, Where can people find you?
- 1:55:51Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 1:55:52Speaker 11: Always in the discord as always and Instagram, dot com,
- 1:55:56Speaker 11: slash PCW podcast, Yeah.
- 1:55:59Speaker 9: You can, and uh find all of us on the discord.
- 1:56:02Speaker 9: We've been having more join. Uh this is nice. We
- 1:56:06Speaker 9: can talk about wrestling twenty four seven. So all right, guys,
- 1:56:11Speaker 9: let's get the hell out of here. We got a
- 1:56:13Speaker 9: clash for two weeks. Yeah, uh oh yeah, let's see
- 1:56:19Speaker 9: this this.
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, Wadies and gentlemen, enjoyed this while
- 1:56:33Speaker 1: you can't. We have four months left to enjoy the
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: greatness that is John Stah.
- 1:56:44Speaker 4: What holy ship?
- 1:56:54Speaker 8: Oh by job It's the day the bag replace Dan's
- 1:57:02Speaker 8: black brock Laster, brock Laster, brock Laster, and that sumner slam,
- 1:57:27Speaker 8: Oh my god, well has come to the sattle Lands.
- 1:57:39Speaker 5: Wee it's been years.
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: Hold on, John, I'm looking at the look and jump
- 1:57:44Speaker 2: seen his eyes. It doesn't look like he's ready to
- 1:57:47Speaker 2: greet an old friend here.
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: That's a small man that let us let not use
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: the word friend when it comes to Lester and Sena.
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: This is a man that has seen the hell out
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: of John seen over the years.
- 1:57:58Speaker 3: This is a man who was a wolhe.
- 1:58:00Speaker 5: Hazard, a walking throat.
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: John Sita what's called this man is his greatest rival,
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: his toughest rival, his most physical rival. His brock Lester
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: is here and he's as mast as as effort. The
- 1:58:59Speaker 1: beast has not taken his eyes off John Cena since
- 1:59:03Speaker 1: he entered his stadium. He had a shit his jack
- 1:59:07Speaker 1: and he's taken off his hat.
- 1:59:10Speaker 8: This is a man built for one play and brocklessor
- 1:59:14Speaker 8: but Job sat on his shoulders Procklester with a futter.
- 1:59:18Speaker 5: Job Stata on the night when.
- 1:59:24Speaker 8: John Cena went through it up to Loute four with
- 1:59:28Speaker 8: Tony Rhodes.
- 1:59:30Speaker 2: Let's be honest, brock Lessner was never coming down here
- 1:59:34Speaker 2: to commiserate with anyone. A message has been sent and
- 1:59:40Speaker 2: everything we thought we knew about ww he just changed Waite.
- 1:59:44Speaker 1: What I said is John Cena's got four months left
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: and it could be a nightmare. A man who has
- 1:59:49Speaker 1: dominating this event has once again made headlines.
- 1:59:53Speaker 4: The beast is back.
- 1:59:56Speaker 5: You are the world's I missed sign up a bit.
- 2:00:03Speaker 17: In fact, that day in and day out for almost
- 2:00:06Speaker 17: six years, I improved everybody in the world that I
- 2:00:09Speaker 17: am the best on this microphone in that break given
- 2:00:13Speaker 17: in commentary, nobody can touch me.
- 2:00:16Speaker 5: You are not privates because the extreme perfect.
- 2:00:24Speaker 8: And we watched the sum your talk about your songs,
- 2:00:31Speaker 8: talk about John three sixteen.
- 2:00:34Speaker 1: Momstead three sixteen says, I just whipped your ass.
- 2:00:39Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you something, brother brock who.
- 2:00:50Speaker 4: New day.
- 2:00:52Speaker 7: Queen.
- 2:00:53Speaker 5: Praise to the top more year, my true madness.
- 2:00:57Speaker 8: Year, welcome to the top, and oh it show.
- 2:01:02Speaker 5: Lately he just hasn't been Harry Hoocy because I'm a business.
- 2:01:11Speaker 12: And I'm.
- 2:01:15Speaker 3: Oh my son, these rotten fastest.
- 2:01:26Speaker 7: Bye bye. It's