Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Candyman - A Murder in the Projects
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, So get this. We're diving into this story and
- 0:04it's pretty messed up. Oh yeah, it's about this woman,
- 0:06Ruthie May McCoy. Okay, and she was really, you know,
- 0:10trying to get her life together in like one of
- 0:12the toughest places you can imagine, what the Grace Abbot
- 0:15Homes in Chicago. Oh yeah, I know that place part
- 0:18of ABLA public housing projects, you know, notoriously bad for
- 0:23violence and neglect.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:25Speaker 1: But here's the thing that's really going to like get you.
- 0:29What's that The killers in this case, they actually got
- 0:31in through her medicine cabinet.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Oh my god, through the medicine cabinet.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Isn't that wild?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Yeah? That is both bizarre and sadly symbolic. Yeah, and
- 0:41we've got a whole stack of sources here, like news articles,
- 0:44court documents, even letters that Ruthie May wrote, wow to
- 0:48the Chicago housing Oh wow, to the cha trying to
- 0:50get help.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Really.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Yeah. So our mission today is to really like go
- 0:54beyond just the headlines, right and understand you know what
- 0:58led to this tragedy. Yeah, because it really is a
- 1:00story that speaks volumes about systemic failures and the human
- 1:06cost of neglect.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Absolutely. So let's rewind the clock back to April nineteen
- 1:11eighty seven. Okay, Ruthie May is fifty two years old.
- 1:15She's living in one of the high rises in the
- 1:17Abbot Homes, Yeah, which were considered to be like the
- 1:20most dangerous buildings in the whole project.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Oh wow, But she's.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Not giving up. You know, she's going to ged classes
- 1:26at Mount Sinai Hospital, trying to get back on her feet.
- 1:29She even started receiving SSI benefits.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Wow. So she's really so you.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Can sense that she's got this like little glimmer of
- 1:37hope for the future. Yeah, this dream of you know,
- 1:40maybe getting out of the projects.
- 1:42Speaker 2: That's what makes this so tragic. Yeah, here's Ruthie May.
- 1:45You know, she's actively fighting to overcome these incredible challenges
- 1:49in her life, right, and the systems that are supposed
- 1:52to be there to support her, Yeah, end up failing
- 1:55her in the most devastating way.
- 1:57Speaker 1: It really is like a punch to the gut. So
- 1:59let's let's walk through what actually happened on that night.
- 2:03It all starts with these nine one one calls.
- 2:05Speaker 2: It's a Wednesday evening, Okay, and Ruthie May calls nine
- 2:09one one a complete panic. Really, she tells the dispatcher
- 2:14that people are breaking into her apartment.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Oh my god, and.
- 2:18Speaker 2: She specifically says, they throw the cabinet down, they want
- 2:21to come through the bathroom.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Wow, through the bathroom. So they're already in.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Yeah. And you have to remember she was dealing with
- 2:27mental health challenges, so it seems like maybe the dispatcher
- 2:30didn't fully graft the seriousness of the situation. Yeah, you know,
- 2:34he sends a patrol car, okay, but he codes it
- 2:38as just like a disturbance with a neighbor.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Oh so, not even.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Not an urgent break in, not a break in at all.
- 2:44Really no, And that hesitation, that failure to recognize the urgency,
- 2:50you know, turns out to be fatal, because minutes later,
- 2:53more nine to one one calls come flooding in. Oh no,
- 2:56this time from neighbors.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 2:58Speaker 2: They're reporting gunshots and screams coming from Ruthie May's apartment.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Oh no. And so the police arrive at this point.
- 3:04Speaker 2: They do.
- 3:05Speaker 1: They don't break down the door though, No.
- 3:07Speaker 2: They knock, they hear the phone ringing inside, but ultimately
- 3:11they decide to leave without actually checking on her hold on.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Wait, why didn't they just break in.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It's almost as if they were more worried about a
- 3:18potential lawsuit than a woman's safety.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 3:21Speaker 2: And tragically, it took two whole days for someone to
- 3:25finally find Ruthie may Wow dead in her apartment.
- 3:29Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Two days, two days, just unbelievable.
- 3:32Speaker 2: And when they do find her, the way the killers
- 3:34got in is what really sends chills down your spine.
- 3:37Oh no, they entered through the pipe chase, okay, behind
- 3:41the medicine cabinet.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Design flaw that was apparently common knowledge in the projects.
- 3:47Speaker 1: No way.
- 3:48Speaker 2: So you've got this vulnerability built into the very structure
- 3:51of their homes.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 3:53Speaker 2: That's being exploited by criminals.
- 3:55Speaker 1: It's terrifying.
- 3:56Speaker 2: And it wasn't even a secret. The article we have
- 3:58here says this method of entry wasn't new. Residents knew
- 4:03about it, especially gang members. They used it to move
- 4:06between apartments, sometimes even to escape from the police.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Like this vulnerability just became part of the fabric of
- 4:14life and Abbot homes and the authorities has simply turned
- 4:18a blind eye.
- 4:19Speaker 1: So right, off the bat, we're seeing this pattern of
- 4:21systemic neglect. Yes, you've got this dangerous design flaw that's
- 4:27left unaddressed, right, nine calls that aren't taken seriously enough,
- 4:32and this underlying sense that the lives of people living
- 4:35in public housing just don't matter as much.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It's a pattern we see repeated time and time again
- 4:42in these kinds of cases, and when you connect it
- 4:44to the bigger picture, it really makes you question, you know,
- 4:48how societal biases and prejudices might have played a role
- 4:50in this tragedy.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we have to remember that Ruthie May was
- 4:55more than just a victim. She was a woman with
- 4:58hopes and dreams.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Absolutely, So before we.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Go any further, let's paint a picture of what life
- 5:03was actually like for her in the Abbot Homes, the
- 5:05kind of environment she was desperately trying to escape.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Well, the Abbot Homes were plagued by just violence and
- 5:13crime and neglect. Gunshots were a regular occurrence, the Paymaster
- 5:18gang had a grip on the drug trade, wow, and
- 5:22residents lived in a constant state of fear.
- 5:25Speaker 1: It sounds like a war zone, yeah, it does. There's
- 5:28even a quote from a janitor who describes the atmosphere
- 5:31as animalism.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Oh wow.
- 5:33Speaker 1: He talked about seeing kids as young as five or six.
- 5:36Oh my god, throwing bricks and bottles at each other.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Wow.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Their childhood's completely warped by the violence around them.
- 5:43Speaker 2: That image is so powerful. Yeah. And it speaks to
- 5:46the cyclical nature of poverty and violence. Right. You know,
- 5:49when children grow up surrounded by that kind of brutality,
- 5:52it becomes normalized. It impacts their development, the opportunities.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is the reality that Ruthie May was
- 5:57facing every day.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Every single day.
- 6:00Speaker 1: She was battling mental illness, poverty, and the constant threat
- 6:04of violence.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But it's important to highlight her resilience, Yeah, her sheer
- 6:08determination despite all of this. She was taking those ged classes,
- 6:13uh huh, going to Mount Sinai for treatment.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:16Speaker 2: And she even started managing a future for herself outside
- 6:18of the projects.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Yeah. She wrote in one of her letters to the
- 6:21cha Oh really, I am trying to better myself. I
- 6:24want to move out of here.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Wow. You can just feel her yearning for a better life. Yeah.
- 6:29Speaker 1: In her words, it's heartbreaking to think about how close
- 6:32she might have been to escaping that nightmare. But while
- 6:36Ruthie May was making strides towards this like brighter future. Yeah,
- 6:40there were these dark forces lurking in the shadows of
- 6:44Abbot homes.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, forces that would ultimately cut her life tragically. Short.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Let's talk about those forces in part two.
- 6:51Speaker 2: It's kind of remarkable about Ruthie may Is, even with
- 6:54all the chaos in Abbot homes. You know, she had
- 6:57these moments of triumph. She wasn't always just isolated and afraid.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, she actually worked before her mental health struggles made
- 7:05it tough to like hold down a.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Job exactly, And unfortunately one of those downs became a
- 7:09turning point in nineteen eighty six. Okay, it kind of highlights,
- 7:13you know, the complexities of her life. Yeah. So she
- 7:17was taking care of her four year old grandson's body
- 7:20when he was seriously injured. Oh no, she claimed that
- 7:24he fell down the stairs, but hospital staff suspected abuse, really,
- 7:29and they called child protective services.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Okay, So was there evidence of abuse? It must have
- 7:35been so stressful for her trying to manage her own
- 7:38mental health, yeah, and take care of a young child
- 7:40in that environment.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Right. There's no official record of abuse, Okay, but the
- 7:44sources suggest this incident put a lot of pressure on
- 7:48Ruthie May. Yeah, and it all came to a head
- 7:51when they tried to commit her to a psychiatric hospital.
- 7:54Oh wow, she had a complete breakdown. Oh no, and
- 7:57even had to be restrained.
- 7:58Speaker 1: You can only imagine howwelm she must felt at that point, right.
- 8:01Speaker 2: It's a stark reminder of those immense challenges she was facing.
- 8:05So this incident ultimately led to her diagnosis of residual
- 8:10type schizophrenia okay, and a recommendation for follow up care
- 8:14at Mount Sinai.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Okay.
- 8:16Speaker 2: And that's where things start to take a turn for
- 8:18the better. Really, you know, Mount Sinai Community Psychiatric Center
- 8:21became a lifeline for her. Wow, this place of support
- 8:25and community outside the chaos of the projects.
- 8:28Speaker 1: So she found like a safe haven in the middle
- 8:30of a storm.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Can you tell me more about her experience
- 8:34at Mount Sinai.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Well, it seems like she really blossomed there. She joined
- 8:38gd classes, participated in group therapy, and even found a
- 8:42mentor in Sandy Siegel, the clinical coordinator.
- 8:45Speaker 2: That's great.
- 8:46Speaker 1: It sounds like she was finally getting the help she
- 8:48needed and starting to build this new life for herself.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Absolutely. Sandy Siegel described her as engaged and opinionated. Uh huh,
- 8:56even offering advice to younger women. Oh really about the
- 8:59days of getting involved with the wrong men in the projects.
- 9:02Speaker 1: That's really telling, you know, even while she was struggling,
- 9:05she was still looking out for others, trying to help
- 9:07them avoid the same pitfalls that she'd faced.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Exactly, And her GED teacher, Linda Norman described her as
- 9:14a dedicated student. Wow, someone determined to improve her life.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Good for her.
- 9:19Speaker 2: She was on track to earn her GED certificate, which
- 9:22would have been a huge accomplishment.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Think about what that would have meant for her, you know,
- 9:26to finally achieve something she set her mind to, a
- 9:29tangible sign of progress.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Right. It's so sad.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It is so sad.
- 9:33Speaker 2: And remember all of this was happening while she was
- 9:36desperately trying to get out of abbot homes. Right. She
- 9:39had requested transfers, but the CHA ignored her.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Police it's like they didn't even see her as.
- 9:44Speaker 2: A person, right, just another case file.
- 9:46Speaker 1: It's infuriating. Here she is trying to do everything right
- 9:50to better herself and create a safe life. Yeah, and
- 9:53the system keeps failing her.
- 9:55Speaker 2: And the most devastating part is with her SSI benefits
- 9:59finally coming through, she was starting to see a glimmer
- 10:01of hope, a chance for a fresh start. But then
- 10:04you have these two individuals, Edward Turner and John Hondras,
- 10:07both residents of Abla, who preyed on her vulnerability.
- 10:11Speaker 1: It's just sickening. Did they know her? What was their motive?
- 10:14Speaker 2: Well, the sources suggest they targeted Ruthie May because they
- 10:17thought she had money stashed away. Really that SSI backpay.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Oh wow.
- 10:23Speaker 2: They knew she lived alone, was mentally ill, and therefore
- 10:27less likely to be believed if she reported.
- 10:29Speaker 1: A crime, so they saw her as like an easy target.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Yeah, someone they could take advantage of without consequence.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Right, And this wasn't just like a random act of violence.
- 10:37Speaker 2: No, they planned this really. They knew about the medicine
- 10:40cabinet vulnerability. They removed the cabinet and the adjacent apartment
- 10:44likely an abandoned unit frequented by drug users, oh wow,
- 10:48and broke through to her side. They even knew they
- 10:50could use the pipe chase to escape if needed.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It's just chillin that level of calculation and cold heartedness.
- 10:56It is Knowing all of this, it's even harder to
- 10:59process that the police didn't do more to help her
- 11:02that night.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Let's delve into that police response and the broader context
- 11:07of systemic failures that contributed to this tragedy in part three.
- 11:11Speaker 1: You know, it's just so frustrating to think about how
- 11:14many things went wrong, all those missed opportunities to save
- 11:18her life. It's like everyone, yeah, the police, the cha
- 11:22security yea, even some of the neighbors. Right, they were
- 11:26almost like conditioned to expect the worst, Yeah, just from
- 11:30the project. So they didn't see the urgency.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, that sense of resignation. Yeah, this belief that violence
- 11:36is just inevitable in places like abbot homes. It's a
- 11:39dangerous mindset, Yeah, because it just allows these tragedies to continue.
- 11:44It blinds people to the individual lives at stake, exactly. Yeah.
- 11:49Speaker 1: So let's go back to the police that night. Okay,
- 11:52they got those desperate calls, they went to her door, right,
- 11:55but they didn't force entry.
- 11:58Speaker 2: It's mind boggling, it really is. Their justification for not
- 12:01taking action is really revealing. They said they didn't have
- 12:05enough evidence to believe a crime was in.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Progress, but they could hear the phone.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Even though they could hear the phone ringing inside. They
- 12:12also brought it the fact that there are a lot
- 12:14of prank calls from housing projects.
- 12:17Speaker 1: So wait, are they saying they didn't take her fear seriously? Yeah,
- 12:20because of her address.
- 12:21Speaker 2: It's like they were profiling.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Her based on where she lived exactly.
- 12:25Speaker 2: It's just a chilling example of how those systemic biases
- 12:28can play out in real life situations. And it's not
- 12:32just the police real the cha security guards also discouraged
- 12:37the police from breaking down the door. Why would they
- 12:40do that even when they went back the second night,
- 12:43right after neighbors reported her missing.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Didn't they understand she might be in danger?
- 12:48Speaker 2: Their reasoning was that they were worried about a potential lawsuit.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Really, a lawsuit if.
- 12:52Speaker 2: They damage the property?
- 12:54Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
- 12:55Speaker 2: It's just a shocking display of bureaucratic indifference. Yeah, seemed
- 13:00more concerned about protecting the institution then protecting the people
- 13:03who lived there.
- 13:04Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. And the worst part is the CJ knew
- 13:07about this vulnerability, right, they.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Had reports of similar braakens.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Right, But they didn't do anything to fix it.
- 13:13Speaker 2: They blamed a lack of funds. But it makes you
- 13:16wonder if they truly grasped the severity of the situation. Yeah,
- 13:20did they not understand that this wasn't just about property damage?
- 13:24This was about people's lives exactly?
- 13:26Speaker 1: So what about the killers then? Okay, what happened to
- 13:29them after all this?
- 13:30Speaker 2: Well, both Edward Turner and John Hondras were charged with
- 13:33murder okay, home invasion, armed robbery, and a whole list
- 13:37of other offenses.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Wow.
- 13:38Speaker 2: The fact that they were charged with home invasion tells
- 13:41us that the state believed they knew Ruthie May was home.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Right, so they went in there to confront her exactly,
- 13:47probably to try to force her to tell them where
- 13:49the money was right.
- 13:50Speaker 2: And it seems like the police had a strong case. Okay,
- 13:52they found some of Ruthie May's belongings in one of
- 13:56the suspects apartments. Uh huh. They also had witnesses who
- 13:59placed the sub specs at the scene and described how
- 14:02they use the medicine cabinet to get in.
- 14:05Speaker 1: But even if they're convicted, does that really bring justice
- 14:08for Ruthie May?
- 14:09Speaker 2: That's a question I keep coming back to. You know,
- 14:12the legal system can punish the individuals. But it can't
- 14:15address those underlying issues, those systemic failures that really pave
- 14:20the way for this to happen. It can't bring her
- 14:22back or erase the trauma inflicted on her family and community.
- 14:27Speaker 1: It just feels like such a hollow victory. You're right,
- 14:30it does, like a tiny band aid on a gaping wound.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Sandy Siegel, Ruthie May's mentor from Mount Sinai, summed it
- 14:39up perfectly when she said, what kind of person would
- 14:42murder someone like Ruthie?
- 14:44Speaker 1: That question haunts me too. It speaks to that dehumanizing
- 14:47effect right poverty and violence and neglect. It forces us
- 14:51to confront this uncomfortable truth. Yeah, that society often fails
- 14:55to protect its most vulnerable members.
- 14:58Speaker 2: This deep dive into Ruthie May's story is a shark
- 15:02reminder that we can't afford to look away. It's easy
- 15:05to just dismiss this as an isolated incident, a product
- 15:09of a specific time and place, But the truth is
- 15:12the same systemic issues that led to her death are
- 15:15still present today.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't wait for another tragedy to happen before
- 15:19we demand change.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Exactly, we owe it to Ruthie May. And to ourselves.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Yeah, to do better, we have to remember that every
- 15:26life has value, absolutely, and we can't allow ourselves to
- 15:30become desensitized to the suffering of others.
- 15:34Speaker 2: This deep dive is a call to action, yes, a
- 15:37reminder that we all have a role to play in
- 15:40creating a world where everyone feels safe and valued, no
- 15:43matter where they live.