Latest / First Thing Today with Joe Thomas / "Abortion's Overton Window" (FTTxJT Thu 100126 hr4)
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- 0:17Speaker 1: on the Talk Media Network.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Joe works at.
- 0:20Speaker 4: A steel mill.
- 0:21Speaker 5: He's down here every day.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Leaves for work when the sun comes up.
- 0:26Speaker 6: Drops the kids to school and on the way.
- 0:29Speaker 7: Joe has everything he dreamed of.
- 0:31Speaker 3: All the treasures that he needs.
- 0:34Speaker 8: No wonder Joe's always smiling.
- 0:37Speaker 5: He only aims to please you.
- 0:40Speaker 9: Let me be your Joe.
- 0:42Speaker 7: Bless you for letting me be of service to you
- 0:44Speaker 7: this morning.
- 0:45Speaker 10: I want to be your Joe.
- 0:48Speaker 7: You know what we do here. I tell you what
- 0:50Speaker 7: went on last night. I will certainly tell you. Just
- 0:54Speaker 7: try and stop me when I try to tell you
- 0:56Speaker 7: what my analysis of it is or concerns. And after
- 1:01Speaker 7: all that's said and done, the dust settles. I want
- 1:03Speaker 7: to hear about how it's impacting you, where you are.
- 1:08Speaker 7: Thank you, Kareem. That story is on the docket. Our
- 1:11Speaker 7: friends from the Family Foundation are coming up. And yes,
- 1:14Speaker 7: we're going to talk about the two-year-old that was killed
- 1:18Speaker 7: in the Netherlands because the family decided he was not
- 1:22Speaker 7: getting better from, I guess, they're claiming brain damage there.
- 1:29Speaker 7: He was not old enough to espouse any conservative beliefs,
- 1:32Speaker 7: so I don't know what the whole story is, but
- 1:35Speaker 7: it's in all the networks. We'll get into it. Our
- 1:38Speaker 7: friends from the Family Foundation trying to mount with a
- 1:41Speaker 7: couple of matchsticks and a bottle opener a campaign against
- 1:46Speaker 7: $ 3 million worth of out-of-state George Soros-trafficked, Act Blue-laundered money
- 1:54Speaker 7: against the lives of the unborn. And the due process.
- 2:01Speaker 7: And I think this goes back to something Blair pointed out.
- 2:04Speaker 7: What is due process? And the Democrats, along with being
- 2:08Speaker 7: endorsed by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps yesterday, Democrats also
- 2:15Speaker 7: say they're against due process. They view due process as
- 2:20Speaker 7: an undue burden. Of course, what they want is right.
- 2:25Speaker 7: They're Democrats. You all voted for us. That's the premise.
- 2:30Speaker 7: It's not that they're ideas, but you all voted for me,
- 2:34Speaker 7: so therefore I have a mandate. And by you all,
- 2:37Speaker 7: I mean 51% of the 25% that turned out to vote.
- 2:43Speaker 7: And don't think that number is low. There will be
- 2:47Speaker 7: locales in this midterm election where voter turnout is somewhere
- 2:51Speaker 7: in the 30%, maybe 35 percentile. It's a shame and
- 2:57Speaker 7: it's sad and it It's going to lead to bad outcomes,
- 3:00Speaker 7: but it's real and you better brace for it because
- 3:05Speaker 7: it's coming. But our first things this morning. Pete Hegseth
- 3:14Speaker 7: dominating with a story that seven or eight that grow
- 3:19Speaker 7: out of his state of the force address to the
- 3:22Speaker 7: Marines and other soldiers and sailors at Quantico. Yesterday, it's
- 3:28Speaker 7: a second State of the Force address. None had ever
- 3:31Speaker 7: been delivered by the Secretary of War before. Six initiatives
- 3:35Speaker 7: were announced intended to, quote, govern the department's direction for
- 3:40Speaker 7: years to come. Amongst them include an Autonomous Warfare Command,
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- 3:52Speaker 7: development and deployment of autonomous and robotic systems through the military,
- 3:57Speaker 7: but establish a hierarchy in which those will be deployed.
- 4:02Speaker 7: Pentagon officials also said that cuts will be made, as
- 4:06Speaker 7: Pete Hegseth has ordered, 800 flag and general officer positions
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- 4:18Speaker 7: 20% decrease in those positions. And Pete Hegseth announced that
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- 13:12Speaker 1: We didn't make talk radio. We made it better. First
- 13:15Speaker 1: Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
- 13:41Speaker 7: Have you ever heard the expression Pandora's box? And it's
- 13:45Speaker 7: not where you get some jewelry. I know that there
- 13:49Speaker 7: are modern parlances about it. But what it's about is
- 13:53Speaker 7: opening up society to things that it doesn't know how
- 14:02Speaker 7: to handle or isn't prepared for. I think the phrase
- 14:05Speaker 7: has been bandied about a little bit in all this
- 14:07Speaker 7: discussion about artificial intelligence. But we're going to talk a
- 14:11Speaker 7: little bit about the organic kind of intelligence. Our friends
- 14:14Speaker 7: from the Family Foundation are battling in a way that
- 14:20Speaker 7: probably is only equitable to the George Washington's army fighting
- 14:26Speaker 7: the amassed armies of King George III. Three million dollars
- 14:33Speaker 7: plus in the war chest of the abortionists. And like
- 14:38Speaker 7: a couple of bucks and some paper clips in the
- 14:41Speaker 7: coffers of the grassroots. Yet they keep asking for more
- 14:45Speaker 7: money from the abortion lobby because they know that all
- 14:49Speaker 7: the king's horses and all the king's dollars don't change
- 14:52Speaker 7: what really is going.
- 14:53Speaker 4: On in the world.
- 14:54Speaker 7: And it's a true testament to the grassroots. Dr. Christina
- 14:58Speaker 7: Francis is on with us. She is one of about
- 15:01Speaker 7: 200 medical professionals that will be holding an event with
- 15:04Speaker 7: the Family Foundation today. on Friday at Richmond's Capitol building
- 15:10Speaker 7: there in the heart of the General Assembly. Dr. Francis,
- 15:13Speaker 7: thank you for taking some time out with us this morning.
- 15:15Speaker 7: And moreover, thank you for fighting for our unborn kids
- 15:20Speaker 7: and their due process.
- 15:23Speaker 15: Absolutely. Thanks so much for having me on, Joe.
- 15:25Speaker 7: So we were just talking about this story, horrific story
- 15:28Speaker 7: out of the Netherlands, obviously different constitutions there, different beliefs
- 15:32Speaker 7: on you know, who is a citizen and who has
- 15:36Speaker 7: the defense of the government, but a two-year-old. And I
- 15:39Speaker 7: bring this up simply because we've spent a lot of
- 15:42Speaker 7: time talking about the unintended consequences, that Pandora's box that's
- 15:47Speaker 7: going to be open with the constitutional amendments and the
- 15:51Speaker 7: ambiguity in them over the ability to end another human
- 15:57Speaker 7: life as a form and function of government and medicine.
- 16:01Speaker 7: The two-year-old child, I guess the doctor determined they were
- 16:09Speaker 7: severely mentally ill, and so they killed him, euthanized him,
- 16:15Speaker 7: or as one of my listeners called it, retroactively aborted him. Dr. Francis,
- 16:21Speaker 7: isn't this exactly everything we were warning about happening in
- 16:27Speaker 7: through the course of decades of discussing abortion law.
- 16:33Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, I think that slippery slope argument
- 16:37Speaker 15: is often.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Doctor? Doctor?
- 16:44Speaker 15: Can you hear me?
- 16:45Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry. You said it is often, and then
- 16:48Speaker 7: you were gone. It was like somebody planned it.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Oh, sorry about that.
- 16:53Speaker 17: It is often.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
- 16:55Speaker 15: That's right. That slippery slope argument oftentimes does come true.
- 16:59Speaker 15: And as you stated, you know, policies that maybe people
- 17:03Speaker 15: think are very limited oftentimes.
- 17:09Speaker 3: Oh, dear.
- 17:11Speaker 15: Oh, dear.
- 17:12Speaker 7: This is not good. She's important. We're going to tell
- 17:16Speaker 7: you what.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Is she back?
- 17:21Speaker 7: I'm just going to call her right back on, on
- 17:24Speaker 7: her line. Um, see if we can't get a better
- 17:27Speaker 7: connection there because it's just not good. Uh, this morning,
- 17:31Speaker 7: it almost intentional. It would be like, huh? Well, there's
- 17:34Speaker 7: a conversation we don't want everyone hearing. I know it's
- 17:38Speaker 7: not conspiracy theory. It's pattern recognition, recognition. Uh, Dr. Francis,
- 17:43Speaker 7: are you back with us?
- 17:45Speaker 15: I am. Can you hear me this way?
- 17:47Speaker 7: Yeah. We just, uh, Sometimes just things don't work. You know,
- 17:50Speaker 7: our technology has become so good there. So, again, we
- 17:54Speaker 7: were talking about the slippery slope that we wind up
- 17:57Speaker 7: going on and we wind up in positions where I
- 18:02Speaker 7: just don't think we're capable of realizing the ramifications of
- 18:06Speaker 7: what we're doing.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Right.
- 18:09Speaker 15: Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, and I was starting to say, just
- 18:13Speaker 15: as a little bit of background to understand where I'm
- 18:15Speaker 15: coming from, I'm a board certified OBGYN and have taken
- 18:19Speaker 15: care of women and their babies for over 20 years
- 18:22Speaker 15: now and also lead the American Association of Pro-Life OBGYNs.
- 18:27Speaker 15: And we have helped support a group, as you said,
- 18:31Speaker 15: of nearly 200 women. physicians and other medical professionals in
- 18:35Speaker 15: Virginia come together to form the Virginia Medical Professionals for
- 18:38Speaker 15: Women's Safety, who are talking about this potential slippery slope
- 18:44Speaker 15: and really expansive and dangerous constitutional amendment that is on
- 18:49Speaker 15: the ballot here in Virginia in November. And as you said,
- 18:54Speaker 15: you know, I think much like euthanasia laws in some
- 18:58Speaker 15: states here in this country, as well as in countries
- 19:01Speaker 15: like the Netherlands, They're worded very vaguely and people think, oh,
- 19:05Speaker 15: there's a limited scope of this, you know, that it's
- 19:08Speaker 15: going to be limited only to the most extreme circumstances.
- 19:12Speaker 15: But what we see in practice then is that it
- 19:14Speaker 15: becomes very expansive, as you mentioned, that even a two-year-old
- 19:17Speaker 15: could be killed. which, of course, is horrendous and not
- 19:20Speaker 15: consistent with good health care at all. And that's exactly
- 19:23Speaker 15: what's going on with this proposed constitutional amendment here in Virginia,
- 19:28Speaker 15: where the wording is so it just seems so common sense,
- 19:33Speaker 15: I think, to many people. And it seems very limited.
- 19:37Speaker 15: You know, they use things like protecting the freedom for
- 19:40Speaker 15: people to make personal decisions and protecting doctors and nurses
- 19:44Speaker 15: from being punished for taking care of patients. But what
- 19:48Speaker 15: we know is that that actually will lead to abortion
- 19:53Speaker 15: for any reason, essentially, through all nine months of pregnancy.
- 19:56Speaker 15: And it will lead to doctors and other even unlicensed
- 20:02Speaker 15: people doing abortions who cause severe harm to women being
- 20:06Speaker 15: protected from any repercussions whatsoever.
- 20:09Speaker 7: Meanwhile, and I see it the other direction, Dr. Francis,
- 20:12Speaker 7: I'd like your thought on this. It criminalizes the idea
- 20:15Speaker 7: of crisis pregnancy centers. So if a girl comes in
- 20:19Speaker 7: and says, I want an abortion, and somebody says, have
- 20:21Speaker 7: you thought this through? bam, you're in violation of medical
- 20:26Speaker 7: law in Virginia for even suggesting that there are alternatives
- 20:30Speaker 7: in these cases.
- 20:33Speaker 15: Yeah, well, you know, and this is something that I
- 20:35Speaker 15: think is really important to point out because that wouldn't
- 20:38Speaker 15: necessarily be apparent to people right away. But one of
- 20:42Speaker 15: the provisions, exactly, one of the provisions in this amendment
- 20:45Speaker 15: is that an individual's right to reproductive freedom, which it's
- 20:50Speaker 15: very important that it says individual because that could even
- 20:53Speaker 15: apply to a minor. So a young girl, her quote-unquote
- 20:57Speaker 15: right to, you know, again, reproductive freedom or abortion is,
- 21:02Speaker 15: cannot be directly or indirectly denied, burdened, or infringed upon.
- 21:07Speaker 15: And that's really the key language. So anyone that says
- 21:11Speaker 15: to her, as you said, if she goes to a
- 21:12Speaker 15: pregnancy center and the pregnancy center says, let's take a minute,
- 21:16Speaker 15: let's talk through this. You know, I want to make
- 21:18Speaker 15: sure you really understand and have you thought about alternatives
- 21:21Speaker 15: to abortion? under this new law, if this is adopted
- 21:25Speaker 15: into the state constitution, theoretically, a prosecutor in Virginia could
- 21:30Speaker 15: go after a pregnancy center by saying, you've infringed or
- 21:33Speaker 15: delayed her decision to have an abortion. And so because
- 21:37Speaker 15: of that, then we can come after you. And people
- 21:41Speaker 15: might think that we're fear-mongering when we say things like this,
- 21:45Speaker 15: but I would say the benefit that voters in Virginia
- 21:48Speaker 15: have is this is not theoretical anymore. We've seen what's
- 21:51Speaker 15: happened in other states. that have adopted very similar constitutional
- 21:57Speaker 15: amendments where.
- 21:58Speaker 4: Dr.
- 21:58Speaker 7: Frazes, hang on to that thought a second.
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- 28:30Speaker 7: Visiting with Dr. Christina Francis, part of an event going
- 28:35Speaker 7: on with The Family Foundation, who's really, this is David
- 28:41Speaker 7: versus Goliath when it comes to abortion and the abortionists,
- 28:47Speaker 7: the constitutional amendments coming soon to a state near you.
- 28:51Speaker 7: You were mentioning in the last segment, Dr. Francis, how
- 28:56Speaker 7: many other states have adopted things like this. And I
- 29:00Speaker 7: think more to come. in the years and months to follow.
- 29:05Speaker 7: I know you're not a politician, you're an OBGYN dedicated to,
- 29:10Speaker 7: talk about the other OBGYNs before we go too much further,
- 29:14Speaker 7: you know, that are part of this, because you're the
- 29:16Speaker 7: ones who have been sworn to, you know, care for
- 29:20Speaker 7: your patient. You know, and I remember all three of
- 29:24Speaker 7: my kids, it's two patients really you're caring for, aren't you?
- 29:29Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely.
- 29:30Speaker 15: In fact, that's one of our mottos at APLOG is
- 29:33Speaker 15: that when we're caring for pregnant women, we're taking care
- 29:35Speaker 15: of two patients at once. And our responsibility is to
- 29:39Speaker 15: both of those patients. And we do that and we
- 29:42Speaker 15: do it well without needing to intentionally end the life
- 29:46Speaker 15: of our pre-born patients, our fetal patients. Yeah, we are
- 29:50Speaker 15: so happy. As you mentioned, our Virginia coalition has nearly
- 29:54Speaker 15: 200 medical professionals. And on Friday, we are hosting a
- 30:00Speaker 15: press conference, as you said, at the General Assembly. And
- 30:03Speaker 15: people will be able to hear from two maternal fetal
- 30:06Speaker 15: medicine specialists. So these are doctors that care for high-risk
- 30:10Speaker 15: pregnancies day in and day out. So if anybody was
- 30:13Speaker 15: going to get up there and say that this constitutional
- 30:15Speaker 15: amendment was was medically necessary, it would be them. But
- 30:18Speaker 15: in fact, what they're going to say is, no, this
- 30:20Speaker 15: is not medically necessary and it's dangerous for our patients.
- 30:24Speaker 7: What time is this going on? And I know the
- 30:26Speaker 7: Family Foundation has a very good Facebook page and they've
- 30:30Speaker 7: web streamed a lot of things for those who are
- 30:33Speaker 7: just trying to steal to this before it hits them
- 30:36Speaker 7: in their states. Dr. Francis, do you know either of those? Yeah.
- 30:41Speaker 15: Yes, absolutely. So the press conference will start at 11 a.m.
- 30:44Speaker 15: Eastern Time, and it will actually be live streamed on
- 30:49Speaker 15: APLOG Action's Twitter page. So it's A-A-P-L-O-G Action, and there
- 30:56Speaker 15: will be a live stream available at 11 a.m. And
- 30:58Speaker 15: I do encourage, you know, people in other states could listen,
- 31:01Speaker 15: but I especially encourage listeners. people who are going to
- 31:03Speaker 15: be voting in the state of Virginia to tune into
- 31:06Speaker 15: that so that they can hear the medical realities, not
- 31:09Speaker 15: only so that they know to vote no, but so
- 31:11Speaker 15: that they can talk about these issues with their friends
- 31:13Speaker 15: and family here in Virginia.
- 31:18Speaker 7: So I want to go back to that point you
- 31:20Speaker 7: were making. I just had to run a moment there.
- 31:24Speaker 7: So go back to what you're saying about other states
- 31:26Speaker 7: have already done this. It's not theory. It's not, well,
- 31:30Speaker 7: could this happen or not? if you get the right
- 31:33Speaker 7: series of events, talk about what you were just saying
- 31:35Speaker 7: about this already being something that happens around the country.
- 31:41Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely. Well, so Virginia's, this proposed constitutional amendment was
- 31:46Speaker 15: written by the same national groups that are writing these
- 31:49Speaker 15: amendments for other states. And we've seen states like Missouri, Michigan, Ohio,
- 31:55Speaker 15: that have passed these constitutional amendments and shrined abortion through
- 31:58Speaker 15: all nine months of pregnancy with no You know, no
- 32:02Speaker 15: ability to block that in their state constitution. And what
- 32:05Speaker 15: we've seen is as soon as that's adopted into the constitution,
- 32:09Speaker 15: pro-abortion groups have come in and sued the state over
- 32:12Speaker 15: every single one of their safety provisions, even common sense
- 32:16Speaker 15: safety regulations, you know, things that require abortion facilities to
- 32:20Speaker 15: be inspected and be held to the same standards as
- 32:23Speaker 15: other outpatient medical facilities.
- 32:26Speaker 7: Shocking stuff.
- 32:26Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 32:29Speaker 7: So is there another aspect of this interfering portion of this?
- 32:36Speaker 7: And by the way, if you read what's on the ballot,
- 32:39Speaker 7: it really bears little resemblance to all this stuff that
- 32:43Speaker 7: is in this amendment to— and a listener brought this up— it' s
- 32:48Speaker 7: an amendment to Virginia's Constitution— in the due process clause.
- 32:53Speaker 7: And I think that's important because I think they're admitting
- 32:56Speaker 7: that this life deserves due process. So we must amend
- 33:00Speaker 7: the due process law to keep this life from getting
- 33:04Speaker 7: due process in its defense. But also it could, you know,
- 33:08Speaker 7: if you told a parent that some 15 year old
- 33:12Speaker 7: came to the school nurse and said, I need some Mifepristone,
- 33:17Speaker 7: if the parent is informed, That school nurse goes to
- 33:22Speaker 7: jail under this.
- 33:25Speaker 15: Well, you know, again, I think anything is possible because
- 33:29Speaker 15: of how protected anyone who aids or assists someone in
- 33:35Speaker 15: obtaining an abortion becomes under this new, if this is
- 33:40Speaker 15: adopted into the Constitution. And so, you know, yes, school
- 33:43Speaker 15: nurses who maybe do this without a parent's knowledge or
- 33:48Speaker 15: maybe tell a parent, then they could come under legal penalty.
- 33:53Speaker 15: Or if they do it without the parents' knowledge, they
- 33:56Speaker 15: would be protected, you know, if they assist a minor
- 33:59Speaker 15: in obtaining an abortion or potentially an abuser who, you know,
- 34:04Speaker 15: quote unquote, assist someone in getting an abortion could potentially
- 34:07Speaker 15: be protected. So this is very dangerous, you know, and
- 34:11Speaker 15: I think the important thing to point out, too, is that.
- 34:14Speaker 15: regardless of where someone stands on the issue of abortion,
- 34:19Speaker 15: everyone should be opposed to this amendment because it is
- 34:21Speaker 15: so dangerous for our patients. It completely eliminates health and
- 34:26Speaker 15: safety standards and it enshrines it into the Constitution, which
- 34:30Speaker 15: means it becomes very, very difficult to walk back in
- 34:34Speaker 15: the future as opposed to a law. If someone isn't
- 34:37Speaker 15: happy with the law in Virginia, there's a much easier
- 34:40Speaker 15: path for getting that change than if this becomes enshrined
- 34:43Speaker 15: in the state constitution.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Dr.
- 34:45Speaker 7: Christina Francis, one of the 200-odd medical professionals taking part
- 34:50Speaker 7: in the Family Foundation event at the Virginia Capitol tomorrow.
- 34:55Speaker 7: I wanted to ask, though, from somebody who does this,
- 35:00Speaker 7: I've always told my kids, if you can't tell us
- 35:02Speaker 7: what's going on, odds are it shouldn't be going on.
- 35:06Speaker 7: The way that the language is written on the ballot
- 35:11Speaker 7: bearing so little comparison to what's on the actual amendment,
- 35:15Speaker 7: doesn't that tell people right away that they're trying to
- 35:19Speaker 7: hide something? The fact that they wouldn't display the amendment
- 35:23Speaker 7: at the polling places like they were supposed to for
- 35:25Speaker 7: 60 days before voting began and that kind of thing,
- 35:29Speaker 7: isn't that indicative of the fact that they know that
- 35:33Speaker 7: they're pulling a fast one on the community? Well, yes.
- 35:38Speaker 15: I mean, I think it absolutely is shameful that they
- 35:42Speaker 15: know that if they put their true agenda out there,
- 35:44Speaker 15: which is they want a baby to be able to
- 35:47Speaker 15: be killed through an abortion. through all nine months of
- 35:50Speaker 15: pregnancy for any reason that voters wouldn't vote for that.
- 35:53Speaker 15: And so instead they put this very vague euphemistic language
- 35:59Speaker 15: on the ballot. And, you know, it's really important that
- 36:02Speaker 15: voters are informed before they go to the polls and
- 36:05Speaker 15: really important that people know that they need to vote
- 36:08Speaker 15: no on question one, when they go to the polls,
- 36:10Speaker 15: either in November or if they're doing early voting to
- 36:13Speaker 15: ensure that they vote no on to ensure that Virginia
- 36:17Speaker 15: women and children are protected and to ensure that Virginia
- 36:21Speaker 15: doesn't become even more of an abortion destination state for
- 36:24Speaker 15: even higher risk abortions.
- 36:27Speaker 7: That's a great point. I mean, it's not like we
- 36:29Speaker 7: don't have abortions going on here. As a matter of fact,
- 36:31Speaker 7: I think there was a 60 percent spike in one
- 36:34Speaker 7: quarter of this past year because of all the other
- 36:37Speaker 7: states coming up with more common sense laws than Virginia has.
- 36:41Speaker 7: So it's not like we've closed all the Planned Parenthoods
- 36:44Speaker 7: around here.
- 36:46Speaker 11: Right.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Correct.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:47Speaker 15: Actually, Virginia's current abortion laws are very permissive, you know,
- 36:50Speaker 15: allowing for abortion for any reason through 27 weeks of pregnancy. So,
- 36:55Speaker 15: you know, there is zero reason other than the fact
- 36:58Speaker 15: that the abortion industry is playing political games right now
- 37:01Speaker 15: with women's lives and with children's lives. There's zero reason
- 37:05Speaker 15: why this needs to be put into the Virginia Constitution. Again,
- 37:09Speaker 15: even for people who support abortion, quote unquote, rights, because.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Doctor? Oh dear.
- 37:19Speaker 7: See what you can do about getting a, but you know,
- 37:22Speaker 7: her point, well made. What is an abortion right? And
- 37:28Speaker 7: maybe we get back, we'll find out. But because that's
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- 37:50Speaker 7: were talking about drone armies. What about the idea that
- 37:53Speaker 7: you no longer have to go to an abortionist for
- 37:57Speaker 7: an abortion, thanks to Milfa Pristone?
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- 44:13Speaker 1: This is Independence from Virginia, again, first thing today, by
- 44:19Speaker 1: Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Network.
- 44:21Speaker 14: It's what we're going to call it these days.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Well, actually, it will now.
- 44:34Speaker 7: That's all you should do. You know, the same ad
- 44:37Speaker 7: agency that rebranded Hamas as a misunderstood, marginalized community should
- 44:44Speaker 7: be tasked with rebranding pregnancy as just a bad case
- 44:50Speaker 7: of loving you. Wouldn't it be so much easier to
- 44:54Speaker 7: pass these baby-killing laws if we just viewed pregnancy as
- 45:00Speaker 7: a virus that men give women? It's a sexually transmitted disease,
- 45:06Speaker 7: why we cure those all the time. I know I'm
- 45:11Speaker 7: being salacious about this, but when you look at what's the,
- 45:18Speaker 7: I mean, the total is right now about 3 million
- 45:22Speaker 7: to three quarters of a million in the coffers of
- 45:28Speaker 7: the people who want to take away an unborn baby's
- 45:31Speaker 7: due process. And again, I will always give credit where
- 45:34Speaker 7: credit's due. Our alert listener, Blair, and the world needs
- 45:39Speaker 7: more alerts, Blair. He is alert without question, was the
- 45:44Speaker 7: one that realized that this amendment amends the portion of
- 45:47Speaker 7: the Constitution regarding due process of law. What other things
- 45:52Speaker 7: do Democrats who support this legislation want to take due
- 45:58Speaker 7: process away from? What other Would you amend the Constitution
- 46:04Speaker 7: to eliminate their due process? But it would be certainly
- 46:14Speaker 7: much more understandable if we just called it a bad
- 46:18Speaker 7: case of loving you. Hey, doctor, I, you know, this guy,
- 46:24Speaker 7: and now I feel like I have a bad case
- 46:26Speaker 7: of loving him. You got a pill for that? Yes,
- 46:29Speaker 7: we do. We have new Milfa Pristone. I'm sorry. There's
- 46:33Speaker 7: no L. I'm sorry. You're right. There's no L.
- 46:36Speaker 4: It's Miff.
- 46:37Speaker 7: Miffa Pristone. And the best part is it's covered under Obamacare.
- 46:51Speaker 7: And we're making it egregious. Ellen, and I want to
- 46:55Speaker 7: give some background. So Ellen just sent me a story
- 46:58Speaker 7: by text. regarding a Canadian discussion in 2013. 2013, Canada
- 47:17Speaker 7: or America light, a third less calories in your irregular America.
- 47:34Speaker 7: I'm sorry, not 20, 23. So three years ago, not
- 47:38Speaker 7: 13 years ago. Teresa Wright in an op-ed says minors
- 47:45Speaker 7: should be eligible for assisted dying according to a parliamentary committee.
- 47:54Speaker 7: Parliamentary authorized committee over their MAID program. That's medical assistance
- 48:03Speaker 7: in dying. is what it stands for. Isn't that nice?
- 48:08Speaker 7: Send in the MAID committee hearing heard from some 500 people,
- 48:18Speaker 7: 150 people, 350 briefs on whether or not the MAID
- 48:24Speaker 7: program in Canada should be expanded to include children. We
- 48:32Speaker 7: like to refer to this on this program as postpartum abortion.
- 48:39Speaker 7: But the only places Canada did not adopt it, Canada
- 48:43Speaker 7: does not have postpartum abortion.
- 48:48Speaker 8: Yet.
- 48:50Speaker 7: But a committee of the actual government, people who were
- 48:53Speaker 7: elected to represent, albeit Bob and Doug McKenzie, but they
- 48:59Speaker 7: were elected by them. And these folks down here They
- 49:07Speaker 7: love to talk about them democracy. So they were voted
- 49:13Speaker 7: in by Bob and Doug McKenzie to represent them up
- 49:17Speaker 7: in the great white north. And they said, hey, let's
- 49:19Speaker 7: think about this. Should we? And you have to understand
- 49:23Speaker 7: how the Overton window works. How many people, and hopefully
- 49:30Speaker 7: it's not a lot in your world, but how many
- 49:32Speaker 7: people in your world in the last four years have
- 49:35Speaker 7: discussed minor attracted persons? How many people before, say you
- 49:42Speaker 7: heard the name Jeffrey Epstein, had ever discussed minor attracted
- 49:48Speaker 7: persons with you prior to the beginnings of the Epstein saga?
- 49:53Speaker 4: Hmm?
- 49:56Speaker 7: If you're anything like me, hardly any. I mean, we
- 50:00Speaker 7: would discuss pedophiles. And that's how the Overton window works.
- 50:11Speaker 7: We drag something absolutely insane into the town square, plop
- 50:18Speaker 7: it on somebody's desk, put the seal of whatever state
- 50:22Speaker 7: you're in on it, ka-chunk, and then have thoughtful discussion
- 50:28Speaker 7: about the insanity. And sure, the first time we discuss
- 50:33Speaker 7: the insanity, it's dismissed as, well... certainly something we should
- 50:39Speaker 7: discuss later. But it's not dismissed as insanity. It's dismissed
- 50:46Speaker 7: as maybe something we're just not ready for yet. And
- 50:50Speaker 7: that's how the Overton window works. Conservatives can do it too.
- 50:59Speaker 7: I try to do it when I talk about how
- 51:01Speaker 7: I would like to fight abortion, which is, and the idea,
- 51:05Speaker 7: the concept of of unwanted pregnancies. What a horrific thing
- 51:10Speaker 7: to think of. I mean, almost as horrific to think
- 51:13Speaker 7: of as medically assisted suicide for young children. Of course,
- 51:21Speaker 7: they would have to have parental consent, according to the
- 51:23Speaker 7: Canadian committees. I did look up, just because I was,
- 51:31Speaker 7: you know, I think I looked this up mostly because
- 51:37Speaker 7: I stop sometimes and look at car accidents. So under
- 51:46Speaker 7: that same rubbernecking, I was curious. Lord knows why. Belgium
- 51:52Speaker 7: and the Netherlands are the only places. Thus the story
- 51:55Speaker 7: from just the other day where the two-year-old was killed
- 51:59Speaker 7: because his parents said he was brain damaged. I guess
- 52:02Speaker 7: a doctor or two must have agreed. And we're participating
- 52:12Speaker 7: in this Overton window by even discussing the insanity of this.
- 52:21Speaker 7: That anyone who even thinks about this kind of thing
- 52:25Speaker 7: should have a padded room and no sharp objects, utensil restrictions.
- 52:36Speaker 7: Because the next thing you know, there will be a case.
- 52:38Speaker 7: Somebody in the activist community that wants to do this. Anyway,
- 52:45Speaker 7: it's time for me to roll out of here until
- 52:47Speaker 7: tomorrow morning at five. So long and thanks for all
- 52:50Speaker 7: the fish.
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