Latest / ChangeMakers with Katie Goar / Episode 125: Ann Bischoff, CEO, Star House
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- 0:05Speaker 1: This is change Makers with Katie Gore finding the right
- 0:09Speaker 1: solutions for the affordable housing community.
- 0:13Speaker 2: This week's change Maker is Anne Bischoff, the CEO of
- 0:18Speaker 2: Star House and Channels.
- 0:20Speaker 3: Over two decades of advocacy, policy expertise, and grassroots leadership
- 0:26Speaker 3: into empowering youth exiting homelessness, an issue that is very
- 0:32Speaker 3: near and dear.
- 0:33Speaker 2: To my heart. And welcome to the podcast.
- 0:37Speaker 4: Thank you, Katie.
- 0:38Speaker 2: It's so good to be here with you. And I'd
- 0:41Speaker 2: like to start these podcasts by learning more about you
- 0:44Speaker 2: before we go into the details. So can you either
- 0:47Speaker 2: tell us a little more about yourself or tell us
- 0:50Speaker 2: about your journey?
- 0:52Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure. I've had the opportunity a couple of
- 0:55Speaker 4: times recently to spend a little time thinking more about
- 0:58Speaker 4: what influences there were early on in my life. So,
- 1:02Speaker 4: like so many of my peers, I never set out
- 1:04Speaker 4: to be the CEO of a nonprofit. I never crossed
- 1:07Speaker 4: my mind, so that wasn't the goal. So I won't
- 1:10Speaker 4: rattle off my resume in terms of my journey, but
- 1:13Speaker 4: I do want to start early on in my childhood,
- 1:16Speaker 4: there were these two seismic events to me that occurred. One,
- 1:20Speaker 4: I was sexually abused by a church deacon and I
- 1:25Speaker 4: told my parents, and that event in my life had
- 1:29Speaker 4: a profound impact. I learned early on what it's like
- 1:32Speaker 4: to be a victim of crime, and I learned early
- 1:35Speaker 4: on the power of speaking up and using your voice.
- 1:39Speaker 4: And so later on in my life I had the
- 1:41Speaker 4: opportunity to volunteer in orphanages and get to know young
- 1:45Speaker 4: people who had been victims of crime and hear their experiences.
- 1:48Speaker 4: And I say that experience, coupled with my own experience
- 1:52Speaker 4: with surviving crime, really impacted the way forward for me.
- 1:57Speaker 2: So I decided to.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Lean into policy policy and devote my time to that. Initially,
- 2:03Speaker 4: so I worked at the State House I learned how
- 2:05Speaker 4: bill really becomes a law, and then from there worked
- 2:09Speaker 4: with Kids Ohio, which was a child policy think tank
- 2:12Speaker 4: devoted to helping decision makers make informed decisions with just
- 2:16Speaker 4: the facts. And there I learned how to ask really
- 2:19Speaker 4: good questions, how to not make assumptions, how to look
- 2:21Speaker 4: for the unmet need, and began focusing on again young
- 2:26Speaker 4: people in foster care, children who were making a go
- 2:29Speaker 4: of it without often the support of their family. There
- 2:34Speaker 4: So I met with the Children's Services director here locally
- 2:38Speaker 4: in Columbus, Ohio at the time, and I asked him
- 2:42Speaker 4: what are the unmet needs for youth in foster care?
- 2:45Speaker 4: He told me, and I thought certainly he would say
- 2:47Speaker 4: kids in foster care need, we need more foster parents,
- 2:50Speaker 4: or we need more adoptive parents, and certainly we did
- 2:52Speaker 4: then and we do now. But his response was, we
- 2:55Speaker 4: have two hundred and fifty kids on a wait list
- 2:58Speaker 4: for a mentor. Mentoring has been proven more successful than
- 3:02Speaker 4: therapy for youth have experienced trauma, and so I took
- 3:06Speaker 4: that as my marching orders. I found a friend who's
- 3:08Speaker 4: a counselor. We created a mentor program for small kids
- 3:12Speaker 4: in foster care so that they could continue on their
- 3:14Speaker 4: relationship with their camp counselor throughout the school year, and
- 3:18Speaker 4: that was part of the National Royal Family Kids Program.
- 3:22Speaker 4: And really got to know young people and their experiences,
- 3:25Speaker 4: learned what happens when they age out of foster care,
- 3:27Speaker 4: and that changed everything for me in terms of my
- 3:30Speaker 4: journey and the trajectory. From there, I heard from youth
- 3:34Speaker 4: who would age out of foster care, created a mentor
- 3:37Speaker 4: program for them as well, and they would tell me, look,
- 3:40Speaker 4: I've got a place to go in a couple of days.
- 3:43Speaker 4: But I have nowhere to go tonight. Can you help me?
- 3:45Speaker 4: Remember I was a policy wonk. I didn't know what.
- 3:47Speaker 4: I didn't know about the adult shelter system. I just
- 3:50Speaker 4: knew that these young people, these young adults, were afraid
- 3:54Speaker 4: to go to the adult shelter system for fear of
- 3:56Speaker 4: being victimized again. And so I started asking questions again,
- 4:01Speaker 4: what are the unmet needs or what is going on
- 4:03Speaker 4: with this population? What are the opportunities that are available?
- 4:06Speaker 4: And I finally asked the right person, the right question
- 4:09Speaker 4: at the right time, and they told me about star House,
- 4:12Speaker 4: which at the time was a research study at the
- 4:15Speaker 4: Ohio State University. Not a lot of people knew about
- 4:19Speaker 4: the program and the good work that they were doing.
- 4:22Speaker 4: And from there, the immediacy of access is what our
- 4:25Speaker 4: youth were looking for. So I was able to refer
- 4:27Speaker 4: young people from the mentor program to Starhouse, got to
- 4:30Speaker 4: know the organization, just fell in love because all the
- 4:33Speaker 4: things that youth in this foster alumni program that I
- 4:39Speaker 4: was part of, they were telling me what they needed
- 4:42Speaker 4: and Starhouse either already had it baked into their model
- 4:46Speaker 4: or if they had a plan to create housing, create
- 4:49Speaker 4: a jobs program that made sense for them. I've been
- 4:52Speaker 4: at Starhouse for nine years.
- 4:54Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you for trusting us with your
- 4:58Speaker 2: early story. And you are demonstrating how you're speaking truth
- 5:04Speaker 2: and to an area that's not often talked about. And
- 5:07Speaker 2: you just right right off the bat, you walked right
- 5:10Speaker 2: up to that line and you're going to You're speaking
- 5:13Speaker 2: truth and you're taking your own power back and I'm
- 5:17Speaker 2: in awe and respect you for that, because everybody's still
- 5:21Speaker 2: learning how to do that, and you clearly have already
- 5:25Speaker 2: figured that out. So I'm I know many of our
- 5:29Speaker 2: listeners are going to be encouraged by you being so
- 5:32Speaker 2: bold and your own story and your own messaging. And
- 5:37Speaker 2: obviously you are not just taking your own power, but
- 5:42Speaker 2: you are giving that power to other kids now. And
- 5:47Speaker 2: we're talking about a population obviously that is vulnerable and
- 5:51Speaker 2: exposed to lots of different challenges that other kids are
- 5:57Speaker 2: not experiencing. And just kind of making from my own
- 6:01Speaker 2: stint in homelessness, it's like, you know, we didn't ask
- 6:06Speaker 2: to be in that position. You know, we didn't ask
- 6:08Speaker 2: to be living in a tent when I was young,
- 6:11Speaker 2: and so you know it was through no fault of
- 6:14Speaker 2: our own, but yet you're exposed to other elements that
- 6:19Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to be exposed to. And so what
- 6:22Speaker 2: Star House is doing? You guys are in Columbus, Ohio, right,
- 6:27Speaker 2: but you're giving that power and that voice to kids
- 6:31Speaker 2: who are having to make their own way. Now, so
- 6:37Speaker 2: tell us about Star House. I mean, how you just
- 6:39Speaker 2: mentioned it. You know, what are like, what kind of
- 6:44Speaker 2: numbers are you meeting the need for or what kind
- 6:48Speaker 2: of numbers are still you can't get to because you're
- 6:52Speaker 2: at capacity. Walk us through that now.
- 6:55Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you look nationally, just in one year's time,
- 6:59Speaker 4: there are four million young people ages fourteen to twenty
- 7:02Speaker 4: four who find themselves in a circumstance of homelessness. That
- 7:06Speaker 4: is roughly the same size of the population of the
- 7:08Speaker 4: entire state of Oregon.
- 7:10Speaker 2: And it's happening every year in our country.
- 7:13Speaker 4: At our solutions that are working to help young people
- 7:15Speaker 4: not just get housed, but keep their housing and prevent
- 7:18Speaker 4: chronic homelessness into adulthood. So that's what we're focused on.
- 7:22Speaker 4: So let's zoom into central Ohio, just in Franklin County,
- 7:25Speaker 4: which is where Columbus, Ohio. The fifteenth largest city in
- 7:28Speaker 4: the country exists. There are upwards of ten thousand individual
- 7:32Speaker 4: young people in the same age group fourteen to twenty
- 7:35Speaker 4: four who find themselves in this circumstance every single year,
- 7:39Speaker 4: And the next question is usually why, why is this happening?
- 7:42Speaker 4: A lot of people have no idea that there are
- 7:44Speaker 4: youth experiencing homelessness anywhere in our country. They think of
- 7:48Speaker 4: someone holding a sign on the side of the street,
- 7:51Speaker 4: and that's their image of homeless in our country. This
- 7:54Speaker 4: is happening to babies and children all around our community.
- 7:58Speaker 4: So the top two reasons why they find themselves in
- 8:00Speaker 4: the circumstance, as you know, is number one, disconnection from family,
- 8:05Speaker 4: hapworn foster care at some point, disconnected from moms and
- 8:09Speaker 4: dads at a critical time. Some are pregnant and kicked
- 8:13Speaker 4: out of their home for being pregnant, others are kicked
- 8:17Speaker 4: out for other reasons. And then we have some young
- 8:19Speaker 4: kids who are running away from home. The fear of
- 8:22Speaker 4: the unknown, the fear of going and sleeping in a
- 8:24Speaker 4: tent site somewhere, becomes less than the fear of staying
- 8:28Speaker 4: where they are, and so they're leaving limited rights and resources,
- 8:31Speaker 4: especially if they're miners. And then if they're young adults,
- 8:34Speaker 4: they don't have the safety net, the support of the
- 8:36Speaker 4: proverbial mom's basement, if you will, during that critical critical time.
- 8:41Speaker 2: So when a person comes to you, a child comes
- 8:45Speaker 2: to you and says, you know, I'm I don't have
- 8:50Speaker 2: anywhere to go, and that is their ultimate human need
- 8:55Speaker 2: that needs met. They're not able to navigate. Oh, call
- 8:59Speaker 2: the seven shelters. Oh apply for a voucher. Oh like
- 9:04Speaker 2: that's not in their grasp to be able to do.
- 9:09Speaker 2: It's really hard to do. When you're settled and you
- 9:11Speaker 2: have all the tools. That's hard enough. So when that
- 9:15Speaker 2: person comes to you, what is kicked off by your organization?
- 9:20Speaker 4: Yes, And first of all, I will point back to
- 9:22Speaker 4: something you said early on about the voices of the
- 9:24Speaker 4: young people we're serving everything we do at Starhouse. This
- 9:28Speaker 4: is why I love it being sort of brought up
- 9:30Speaker 4: in research. Everything that we do at Starhouse is based
- 9:34Speaker 4: on the voices of the young people we're serving, listening
- 9:38Speaker 4: to them, understanding their experience. We were founded as a
- 9:41Speaker 4: federally funded research study at the Ohio State University. The
- 9:45Speaker 4: research is all surveys and by the way, if they're
- 9:48Speaker 4: compensated for their time to contribute to the research, which
- 9:51Speaker 4: is which is really important as well. But they're telling
- 9:54Speaker 4: us things like they need immediate access to safety. The
- 10:00Speaker 4: I don't know how the system works around the country
- 10:02Speaker 4: in every case, but in Columbus we have a homeless
- 10:05Speaker 4: hot line, and people need to call the homeless hot line.
- 10:08Speaker 4: Sometimes they wait only to be told that there's a
- 10:11Speaker 4: weight list. Our shelter here has a wait list.
- 10:14Speaker 2: A mile long.
- 10:15Speaker 4: Right now, Youth, vulnerable youth especially you are highly susceptible
- 10:19Speaker 4: to exploitation and assault and other victimization concerns out on
- 10:24Speaker 4: the street must have immediate access to safety. So that's
- 10:28Speaker 4: what sets this model apart. By being a drop in.
- 10:31Speaker 4: By offering drop in services twenty four to seven, youth
- 10:35Speaker 4: have access around the clock every single day and the year,
- 10:38Speaker 4: even on holidays, to safety. And then once they're inside.
- 10:42Speaker 4: The second thing you've told us from all the research
- 10:44Speaker 4: over the years, they need low barrier access. We don't
- 10:47Speaker 4: require an idea at the door. Once they're inside. The
- 10:51Speaker 4: third thing is they need to feel like they're in
- 10:53Speaker 4: control because they don't trust because of the experiences that
- 10:57Speaker 4: they've had. So they have complete autonomy they're inside and
- 11:01Speaker 4: they can come for as long as they need to
- 11:04Speaker 4: between the ages of fourteen and twenty four. There's food, clothings,
- 11:08Speaker 4: a safe place to be. And then beyond that, we
- 11:10Speaker 4: have clinical services on site. We're seeing people heal from
- 11:13Speaker 4: post traumatic stress disorder, and we're connecting them with all
- 11:17Speaker 4: the resources they need again not just to get housing,
- 11:19Speaker 4: but keep it long term.
- 11:21Speaker 2: I can't imagine what they're going through, but you know,
- 11:26Speaker 2: in some regards, I remember my own experience mentally thinking,
- 11:30Speaker 2: you know, there's got to be something better than this, right,
- 11:33Speaker 2: or let me take my own chances on my own.
- 11:37Speaker 2: And you know I have talked about sometimes you know,
- 11:42Speaker 2: I chose to run away and you're like, you know,
- 11:44Speaker 2: I can, I can do this better on my own.
- 11:47Speaker 2: And so there's a part that's saying, let me take
- 11:51Speaker 2: my own control, because then I'm not going to have
- 11:54Speaker 2: to go against the forces of whatever's happening in the
- 11:57Speaker 2: foster unit or whatever's happening on the street, whatever. And
- 12:03Speaker 2: yet that strength is limiting too because they are children
- 12:10Speaker 2: combating this and you but you mentioned the mentorship piece
- 12:15Speaker 2: being strong, and and that is like this part of
- 12:19Speaker 2: the secret formula for success. How one person is changing
- 12:24Speaker 2: potentially their life. Tell us about the mentors here. This
- 12:29Speaker 2: this seems like just different than a program or organization.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Describe some of that for us.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll tell you the story starting with talking
- 12:42Speaker 4: about trauma and then leading to the solutions that we're
- 12:46Speaker 4: uncovered here. Our clinical services director Joe Gores would tell
- 12:51Speaker 4: you that when she came to Starhouse as a clinical therapist,
- 12:55Speaker 4: she thought homelessness was simply a resource mismatch issue. Okay, right,
- 13:01Speaker 4: of course, there's a catch twenty two, and you got
- 13:03Speaker 4: to break out of the catch twenty two, get stabilized
- 13:05Speaker 4: and move forward. But what she learned is that the
- 13:08Speaker 4: vast majority of the young people coming through our center
- 13:12Speaker 4: don't just have one trauma one time. They have multiple
- 13:15Speaker 4: complex experiences with childhood trauma, current trauma. Homelessness itself is
- 13:21Speaker 4: a traumatic experience, but then you add to that assault, right, starvation,
- 13:26Speaker 4: all the way down the line, and you see young
- 13:28Speaker 4: people averaging on the ACES Scale Average Childhood Experiences scale,
- 13:33Speaker 4: a ten point scale measuring these one time traumatic experiences,
- 13:36Speaker 4: scoring an average of an eight, a war zone level
- 13:40Speaker 4: score on this assessment. And that is the kind of
- 13:44Speaker 4: trauma that literally rewires people's brains to distrust, which becomes
- 13:51Speaker 4: another barrier that they need to move through. So we
- 13:54Speaker 4: emphasize the couple of things at Starhouse that the research
- 13:58Speaker 4: has told us search again based on the voices of
- 14:01Speaker 4: the young people we're serving. One thing. I love many
- 14:05Speaker 4: things I love about all the research, but one thing
- 14:08Speaker 4: is there's this finding in nearly every study that we
- 14:12Speaker 4: do in partnership with the National Institutes of Health Nationwide
- 14:15Speaker 4: Children's Hospital OSU, that says unconditional positive regard. And that's
- 14:21Speaker 4: the academic term which most people would call unconditional love.
- 14:25Speaker 4: So the practice of welcoming people in time and time again,
- 14:28Speaker 4: regardless what they said or did last time. There are
- 14:30Speaker 4: triggers associated with trauma. That practice works to rewire people's
- 14:37Speaker 4: brains to trusts, connect and take the next step toward
- 14:41Speaker 4: their healing, which is meeting with a clinical therapist on
- 14:45Speaker 4: site at Starhouse, or a case manager working through breaking
- 14:50Speaker 4: out of the catch twenty two, getting connected with jobs, education, healthcare,
- 14:54Speaker 4: and therapy. And so now I'll talk about the power
- 14:57Speaker 4: of those relationships and the therapy practices in particular, we
- 15:02Speaker 4: are seeing young people heal from post traumatic stress disorder.
- 15:08Speaker 4: My master's is in educational psychology, and I learned that
- 15:13Speaker 4: you can learn to deal with PTSD like ab ME.
- 15:19Speaker 4: But I never learned until I came to Star House
- 15:21Speaker 4: that people can go from having one of the highest
- 15:24Speaker 4: post traumatic stress disorder scores that you can have to
- 15:29Speaker 4: after a time with therapy, no longer holding traumatic stress
- 15:34Speaker 4: disorder diagnosis. It happens when people work through the therapy
- 15:39Speaker 4: and go through that healing process, all of the good
- 15:43Speaker 4: things start to stick. Relationships are sticking, their jobs are sticking,
- 15:48Speaker 4: their housing is sticking. They're set up for the prevention
- 15:52Speaker 4: of chronic illnesses into adulthood. So we specialize certainly in
- 15:56Speaker 4: saving lives, and we're providing food and clothing and safe
- 16:00Speaker 4: place to be. But what we're really going for is
- 16:04Speaker 4: prosperity for young people complete healing from their traumatic experiences,
- 16:10Speaker 4: because when that happens.
- 16:11Speaker 5: We believe you can prevent chronic homelessness into adult and
- 16:16Speaker 5: that power of healing is creating a whole individual who
- 16:21Speaker 5: then can feed into and heal and create you know,
- 16:26Speaker 5: like that this ripple like, then they become whole so
- 16:29Speaker 5: they can help another person as well.
- 16:32Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me about the the technical side of this.
- 16:39Speaker 2: You partnered. I think I saw with OSU and how
- 16:43Speaker 2: did that work or you know, where were they in
- 16:46Speaker 2: the process because you mentioned, you know, all the research
- 16:50Speaker 2: side of this. We've talked about the heart, we've talked
- 16:53Speaker 2: about the person, and tell me about that organizational aspect.
- 16:58Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were so fortunate. A lot of nonprofits
- 17:01Speaker 4: just getting started don't have this opportunity. But we were
- 17:04Speaker 4: incubated i'll call it by the Ohio State University from
- 17:08Speaker 4: two thousand and six with that very first research study
- 17:12Speaker 4: all the way to twenty seventeen. So they actually brought
- 17:15Speaker 4: me on in twenty sixteen knowing that it was time
- 17:19Speaker 4: for Starhouse to spread its wings and become independent. The
- 17:22Speaker 4: reason we needed to become independent is so that we
- 17:25Speaker 4: could apply more of the solutions that we learned about
- 17:29Speaker 4: that didn't really operate well under an academic structure. So
- 17:32Speaker 4: we became independent in twenty seventeen. But the research that
- 17:37Speaker 4: we do is so important that we wanted to ensure
- 17:40Speaker 4: that that remained. So we do have two offices at
- 17:42Speaker 4: our drop in Center devoted to that ongoing research. They're
- 17:46Speaker 4: looking at traumatic brain injury research right now, the first
- 17:50Speaker 4: of its kind. Most of those studies are focused on
- 17:54Speaker 4: sports injuries or veterans. This is the first of its
- 17:57Speaker 4: kind study focused on childhood trauma and the impact that
- 18:01Speaker 4: that has on someone, and so we'll be able to
- 18:03Speaker 4: apply learnings in real time. Preliminary findings are telling us
- 18:08Speaker 4: that when you practice unconditional positive regard, again these therapeutic
- 18:13Speaker 4: practices that we offer, you can reinforce the barrier around
- 18:18Speaker 4: someone's DNA, and when you reinforce the barrier there, it
- 18:22Speaker 4: can prevent the chronic illnesses associated with traumatic experiences long term.
- 18:27Speaker 4: So this is powerful research, not the kind of research
- 18:31Speaker 4: that sits on a show for just finds its way
- 18:33Speaker 4: to a journal article, but applicable findings that we apply
- 18:37Speaker 4: every day, and we're excited to be able to share
- 18:40Speaker 4: it with more and more organizations around the country as well.
- 18:44Speaker 2: I hate to say this, but a lot of people,
- 18:48Speaker 2: I mean, there's this myth that has to be debunked
- 18:50Speaker 2: about well they're not going to change, or well what
- 18:53Speaker 2: can you do, or well you know the intervention wasn't
- 18:57Speaker 2: early enough, or you But yet you're proving that wrong
- 19:03Speaker 2: with research based facts that says, yes you can rewire
- 19:06Speaker 2: the brain, yes they can heal, and I think that's
- 19:10Speaker 2: what's phenomenal is like you're doing the twofold approach. You're
- 19:13Speaker 2: confronting that myth that is wrong with evidence that's proving
- 19:19Speaker 2: that there are techniques to work through that healing process
- 19:23Speaker 2: and that life correcting moment. Yeah, the beautiful thing is youth.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Youth are empowered and they understand what's happening and the
- 19:32Speaker 4: power of therapy and moving through. We've seen this phenomenon
- 19:36Speaker 4: over the past several years where we went from I
- 19:39Speaker 4: think it was forty five percent of our youth we're
- 19:41Speaker 4: choosing to meet with a therapist or a case manager
- 19:43Speaker 4: and she's twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen when I first started,
- 19:47Speaker 4: and more recently it's up to eighty nine percent. And
- 19:50Speaker 4: so I went to Jill or clinical services leader, and
- 19:55Speaker 4: I said, what is going on in these numbers are
- 19:57Speaker 4: so high And she said it's gen z. She said,
- 20:00Speaker 4: they're more comfortable talking about mental health, accessing okay, and
- 20:04Speaker 4: then telling their friends about it. And so we have
- 20:06Speaker 4: a whole new referral to the program now. And so
- 20:09Speaker 4: that's why we have the information now about how the
- 20:13Speaker 4: healing that's taking place when we use em dr I
- 20:17Speaker 4: movement desensitization of cognitive bhabal therapy and all of the
- 20:21Speaker 4: best strategies.
- 20:23Speaker 2: My sister has a couple of counseling centers that she started,
- 20:28Speaker 2: and a lot of it was birth from her own,
- 20:32Speaker 2: you know, our own shared experiences early on, and so
- 20:36Speaker 2: I'm sure when she listens to this, she is going
- 20:39Speaker 2: to just be like jumping up in her seat hearing
- 20:44Speaker 2: what you guys are doing, because that's a lot of
- 20:47Speaker 2: her world too, where she sees it working and she
- 20:50Speaker 2: sees that reprogramming. Another thing that I wanted to talk
- 20:53Speaker 2: about was another innovative thing that you guys are doing.
- 20:57Speaker 2: You just bought I believe it was as in a
- 21:01Speaker 2: vacant church and you're going through the conversion process, so
- 21:05Speaker 2: you're expanding. Tell us a little bit about that project.
- 21:09Speaker 4: Yeah, let's tell you and I'll answer the question you
- 21:11Speaker 4: asked early on that I kind of drifted away from
- 21:14Speaker 4: my rabbit trail is the numbers we're seeing and why
- 21:18Speaker 4: we are plant in the process of purchasing that second
- 21:22Speaker 4: drop in center location. So last year twenty twenty four,
- 21:25Speaker 4: we served sixteen hundred and six individual teenagers, young adults
- 21:31Speaker 4: and their small children. Seventy eight small children. Of our
- 21:33Speaker 4: guests last year as well, that is nearly double the
- 21:37Speaker 4: number that we served just three years before.
- 21:40Speaker 2: And while we have a.
- 21:40Speaker 4: Fourteen thousand square foot facility, half of that is a
- 21:44Speaker 4: warehouse and a lot of it much of it is
- 21:47Speaker 4: a gym. So if not for that full length gym,
- 21:50Speaker 4: we would be at capacity. Our unique service to our
- 21:54Speaker 4: community is zero youth turned away. And the way we're
- 21:57Speaker 4: people to do that is by you know, having enough space.
- 22:00Speaker 4: And so we are in the process. We're in contract
- 22:04Speaker 4: on an old church, convent and school on one property.
- 22:09Speaker 4: We'll convert that into a second drop and center, certainly
- 22:12Speaker 4: to meet the unique needs of young people in that
- 22:15Speaker 4: region of central Ohio, but also to offset any capacity
- 22:19Speaker 4: issues because we can't turn young people away. They're too
- 22:22Speaker 4: vulnerable to be left on the street.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Why do you think Columbus is a unique community to
- 22:32Speaker 2: be making this model work.
- 22:35Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting question because we're in conversation with
- 22:38Speaker 4: a couple of other communities and we're learning, you know,
- 22:42Speaker 4: the difference of developing and unique communities there.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Because it's not a given, is it.
- 22:48Speaker 4: It's not. I will say early on in the early
- 22:53Speaker 4: two thousands, when we came on the scene. There was
- 22:57Speaker 4: very little known about this population. There were people in
- 23:01Speaker 4: the community saying, we might have a few kids out
- 23:04Speaker 4: there living on the streets, but there can't be many.
- 23:06Speaker 4: We're Columbus, We're all these Fortune five hundred companies and
- 23:09Speaker 4: all these universities. You know, we're doing okay, And then
- 23:13Speaker 4: we come on the scene and we say, hey, look
- 23:16Speaker 4: they're At the time, the estimate was a couple of
- 23:19Speaker 4: thousand youth every single year who are CouchSurfing, disconnected and
- 23:23Speaker 4: trying to make a go of it, and we need
- 23:25Speaker 4: to support them now to prevent chronicle business into adulthood.
- 23:28Speaker 4: So the difference I think that it makes to be
- 23:34Speaker 4: in Columbus is when you make the case of people
- 23:38Speaker 4: listen to the facts, they listen to the details, and
- 23:42Speaker 4: you can't deny that the need is here at this point.
- 23:44Speaker 4: And we're so fortunate to have leaders in our community
- 23:47Speaker 4: that when given the facts, they want to step up
- 23:50Speaker 4: and support and help make things happen. So we've got tremendous,
- 23:53Speaker 4: tremendous support from all sectors of our community here.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Fortunately, using your policy hat, as you talked about your
- 24:04Speaker 2: expertise there, if policy makers were looking for a solution
- 24:10Speaker 2: for unhealthed and housed youth. What would you say, maybe
- 24:15Speaker 2: the three things that they need to do on a
- 24:18Speaker 2: more macro national level. I mean, you guys are doing
- 24:22Speaker 2: what you're doing in Columbus, right, but there are so
- 24:25Speaker 2: many other cities that need to have the push to
- 24:29Speaker 2: get going. So what would you recommend from a larger
- 24:33Speaker 2: national scale to make that happen.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, again, four million youth every single year,
- 24:41Speaker 4: and if we support all four million of those young
- 24:45Speaker 4: people into adulthood, ensuring that they have the right access
- 24:49Speaker 4: to careers and opportunities for affordable housing, that will save
- 24:53Speaker 4: taxpayers billions of dollars over the course of those young
- 24:57Speaker 4: people's lives. So we must step in and provide the
- 25:02Speaker 4: pathway that these young people need to prosperity and sure
- 25:07Speaker 4: fire housing and the way to do it. There are
- 25:09Speaker 4: so many organizations around our country that are doing good work.
- 25:12Speaker 4: So I don't want to make it sound like storehouses
- 25:14Speaker 4: the silver bullet. We have all the answers, although I
- 25:16Speaker 4: do know that the types of services that we have
- 25:19Speaker 4: work for this population, and that's immediate access to safety.
- 25:23Speaker 4: First of all, I'd say go out to the streets,
- 25:25Speaker 4: so we go to them to the tent site, soup kitchens,
- 25:28Speaker 4: college campuses, libraries, make sure that they know about the
- 25:32Speaker 4: resources that are available. For every one person, we find
- 25:34Speaker 4: out they're three more, followed by word of mouth, and
- 25:37Speaker 4: then the immediate twenty four to seven access is what
- 25:40Speaker 4: people are looking for. We've been out there on national
- 25:43Speaker 4: news and we've had people from all over the country
- 25:45Speaker 4: reach out to us wanting to learn about this model,
- 25:48Speaker 4: and every single time, they're looking for the immediate access,
- 25:53Speaker 4: the breaking down of all the red tape, to just
- 25:56Speaker 4: get into the door and get into a safe circumstance
- 26:00Speaker 4: ants where you can breathe about to begin moving forward.
- 26:05Speaker 4: And then flexibility is really important with this population. We
- 26:08Speaker 4: don't have a twelve week program. We don't have demands
- 26:11Speaker 4: that people have to walk through to get services and
- 26:13Speaker 4: to move forward. We make everything available in a one
- 26:16Speaker 4: stop shop and we have all the team members on
- 26:19Speaker 4: site available to coach them and walk them through the
- 26:22Speaker 4: process on their own unique timeline. From there, we have housing,
- 26:28Speaker 4: so we have a unique housing model as well that
- 26:31Speaker 4: was birthed out of asking good questions and doing the
- 26:34Speaker 4: research listening to youth. We took an old Motel six
- 26:38Speaker 4: and turned it into efficiency apartments. Yet but more importantly,
- 26:43Speaker 4: all the resources on site that a young person needs
- 26:47Speaker 4: not just to get housing, but keep it baked in
- 26:49Speaker 4: with full time staffing. So there's on site access to jobs, education, healthcare, therapy,
- 26:54Speaker 4: case management, laundry facility, food pantry, and we're finding that
- 26:58Speaker 4: youth have the space to get the traction they need
- 27:02Speaker 4: to sustain their housing long term. One young man came
- 27:05Speaker 4: in from the drop and center into housing, was able
- 27:08Speaker 4: to complete his high school diploma with education resources that
- 27:11Speaker 4: we have on site. Then he completed his real estate license,
- 27:15Speaker 4: and then he went on he didn't need us anymore.
- 27:17Speaker 4: He got his own apartment and we were able to
- 27:19Speaker 4: connect him with mentors in the real estate space to
- 27:22Speaker 4: help him get that traction as well. So it's a
- 27:25Speaker 4: pathway and it's hard work, and you have to have
- 27:28Speaker 4: team members committed to it to take their time with
- 27:31Speaker 4: a young person and walk them through the whole process.
- 27:33Speaker 4: And when you do, they come back and they tell
- 27:36Speaker 4: you the difference that it may it made, and it's
- 27:38Speaker 4: a beautiful thing.
- 27:40Speaker 2: I was just going to ask you if there was
- 27:42Speaker 2: some type of I hate to say storytelling, but some
- 27:47Speaker 2: type of testimonial, That's what it is and that you
- 27:51Speaker 2: like to talk about in changing public perception and really
- 27:55Speaker 2: helping garner support for your mission. Is there some type
- 27:59Speaker 2: of testimony all that. I'm sure you have a.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Ton holpless, countless stories that I could tell you, but
- 28:08Speaker 4: dispelling the myth. One thing is the idea that people
- 28:12Speaker 4: are homeless because they don't want to work. That is
- 28:15Speaker 4: not true. If you look at our data, you've you've
- 28:17Speaker 4: been with us for ninety or more days, seventy nine
- 28:19Speaker 4: percent of them are obtaining employment. The trick is keeping
- 28:23Speaker 4: it and so we've created a program Star Works that
- 28:25Speaker 4: brings the jobs to them. They can work when they
- 28:28Speaker 4: can when they can't work, there's no penalty. So what
- 28:31Speaker 4: I would encourage people to do is go to our
- 28:33Speaker 4: website Starhouse dot us slash c bus cbus c us
- 28:41Speaker 4: see us. There's a video there of a young lady
- 28:46Speaker 4: named Cale, and she's given us permission to share the
- 28:49Speaker 4: video of her experience while she was at Starhouse, she
- 28:54Speaker 4: came to us and she'll she describes in the video,
- 28:57Speaker 4: the circumstance of homelessness isn't something you have to do
- 29:00Speaker 4: wrong to fall into life, just sort of happens, and
- 29:03Speaker 4: you find yourself in this catch twenty two and it's
- 29:06Speaker 4: really tricky to break out of that catch twenty two
- 29:09Speaker 4: without the proper supports. And so that's where Starhouse stepped
- 29:13Speaker 4: in for her. She was connected with a group of mentors.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Since then she's moved on, she's married, she's got a
- 29:18Speaker 4: good job, and most recently she published an illustrated children's books. So,
- 29:24Speaker 4: oh wow, those sorts of experiences. And like the young
- 29:27Speaker 4: man I shared who got his real estate license, these
- 29:30Speaker 4: are the experiences of young people. They want to move forward,
- 29:36Speaker 4: they want relationships, and it is one of the most
- 29:39Speaker 4: beautiful things when after someone comes in looking forlorn, just
- 29:44Speaker 4: having lost hope, getting them connected and to the point
- 29:47Speaker 4: where you see that big smile in their face and
- 29:51Speaker 4: the weight lifted off of their shoulders. These are resilient
- 29:55Speaker 4: young leaders who want to be advocates for their peers.
- 29:59Speaker 2: What would you tell someone listening if they wanted to
- 30:03Speaker 2: make a difference, what's one small thing or one step
- 30:07Speaker 2: that they could take today? I mean, real quick, I'm
- 30:10Speaker 2: thinking they need to go hear the words of kal
- 30:14Speaker 2: What would be another thing that they could do or
- 30:19Speaker 2: make an impact? On.
- 30:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to say there's a place for everybody
- 30:23Speaker 4: if you have a little bit of time or a lot.
- 30:25Speaker 4: So if you have a little bit of time, if
- 30:27Speaker 4: you're in the Central Ohio region, you can come volunteer
- 30:29Speaker 4: in our warehouse, sorting through clothing or getting to know
- 30:32Speaker 4: some of the other opportunities for volunteering elsewhere. Look into
- 30:36Speaker 4: your local community and see what opportunities there are for
- 30:40Speaker 4: teens and young adults experiencing homelessness. Perhaps you could be
- 30:43Speaker 4: a mentor or make a donation. I'm encouraging everybody. Given
- 30:48Speaker 4: the circumstances for nonprofits in our country right now, a
- 30:52Speaker 4: lot of us are facing financial cliffs for the first time,
- 30:57Speaker 4: so I encourage you to look into organizations meeting this need.
- 31:01Speaker 4: If you've already given, give double what you gave last year.
- 31:05Speaker 4: That's one of the most important things that you can
- 31:07Speaker 4: do in this economic uncertainty that we're living in right now.
- 31:12Speaker 2: What does Columbus what what do they when when people
- 31:18Speaker 2: come into Columbus, what's the what's the thing that they
- 31:21Speaker 2: say about your city? And I got a reason for
- 31:23Speaker 2: asking this.
- 31:24Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was fortunate to have lived in two cities.
- 31:28Speaker 4: I moved here from West Palm Beach where I went
- 31:29Speaker 4: to high school. And uh and and I would say
- 31:34Speaker 4: about Columbus. Columbus is innovative and open to collaboration. And
- 31:42Speaker 4: you know, in Starhouse's circumstance, we had over ninety social
- 31:45Speaker 4: service partners last year. Our housing model is a joint
- 31:48Speaker 4: ownership model, so there's a lot of openness to working
- 31:52Speaker 4: together to make things happen. And when you have innovation,
- 31:56Speaker 4: creativity and collaboration, you can go further faster toward a solution.
- 32:02Speaker 4: That's one of the things I love about our community here.
- 32:05Speaker 2: And that's what I was noticing, the way that you
- 32:08Speaker 2: have partnered people who have come alongside you. I mean, yes,
- 32:12Speaker 2: you guys, as an organization and a nonprofit can go
- 32:15Speaker 2: it alone, but you guys have really unique partnerships. And
- 32:19Speaker 2: that's kind of a Columbus thing too. I Mean there's
- 32:23Speaker 2: something about that city that is willing to tackle the
- 32:28Speaker 2: hard thing in the room, willing to talk about the
- 32:31Speaker 2: hard thing in the room, and really trying to solve it.
- 32:33Speaker 2: But you guys are doing it with partnerships. Can you
- 32:35Speaker 2: talk about some of.
- 32:37Speaker 4: That, Yeah, yeah, it's people call it the Columbus way.
- 32:41Speaker 4: So it's nothing new, nothing unique to to star House.
- 32:46Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. I mean, I think in the early
- 32:48Speaker 4: two thousands, the trends here was Okay, here's an issue,
- 32:53Speaker 4: we form a commission to solve the issue, and then
- 32:56Speaker 4: you created a report and then you follow the steps
- 32:59Speaker 4: to do that. And there's still a lot of that
- 33:01Speaker 4: going on. In Starhouse's case, there's a Youth Partner coalition
- 33:06Speaker 4: and so that all the organizations in town that are
- 33:09Speaker 4: serving this population we get together once a month and
- 33:11Speaker 4: we talk about the issues. We're talking about ways that
- 33:14Speaker 4: we can share services, share facilities, and I think for
- 33:18Speaker 4: in this economic time now, that sort of conversation around
- 33:22Speaker 4: the country is going to be more more important than
- 33:25Speaker 4: ever before. We must share, you know, to move forward
- 33:30Speaker 4: in serving this population well.
- 33:32Speaker 2: And I really appreciate you taking the time. I am
- 33:36Speaker 2: encouraged by what you guys are doing, and I really
- 33:41Speaker 2: like that you're tackling a problem with the solution that
- 33:46Speaker 2: can be replicated too, so you know, we don't have
- 33:50Speaker 2: to resign ourselves to this whole shoulder shrug what can
- 33:53Speaker 2: be done, because you guys are now showing exactly what
- 33:58Speaker 2: the opportunity and the potential is for every single one
- 34:01Speaker 2: of those individuals and those kids who need stability and
- 34:05Speaker 2: who need that acceptance and they can relaunch their lives.
- 34:11Speaker 2: You know, I was able to relaunch my life by
- 34:15Speaker 2: the difference that one person had in our life. And
- 34:19Speaker 2: that's what you are bringing to the table, a group
- 34:22Speaker 2: of people who are united. They're the one person, right
- 34:27Speaker 2: just making a change. So anything you want to close
- 34:29Speaker 2: this out on, and I sure would.
- 34:31Speaker 4: We are in replication mode and so we're of course
- 34:35Speaker 4: replicating here in Central Ohio, but we're also in the
- 34:38Speaker 4: process of advising some other communities on how to create
- 34:42Speaker 4: a Star House or a program in their community. So
- 34:44Speaker 4: if people are interested in learning more, you know, just
- 34:48Speaker 4: want to see what's possible in their community, encourage them
- 34:51Speaker 4: to reach out. My website is listed there by my
- 34:55Speaker 4: name Starhouse dot us. If you want to reach out
- 34:58Speaker 4: to me directly, just put slash and a and at
- 35:01Speaker 4: the end of that and you can contact me.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Do you have a big annual fundraiser you want to
- 35:04Speaker 2: tell us about.
- 35:06Speaker 4: Absolutely, we have a couple of things going on right now.
- 35:09Speaker 4: One is the capital campaign for the south Side Project.
- 35:14Speaker 4: We'll call that Star Out south Side. We are at
- 35:16Speaker 4: seven million dollars so far toward that ten million goal,
- 35:20Speaker 4: and we have a two point five million dollar match
- 35:22Speaker 4: thanks to the Walter Foundation, the Wolf Family, and a
- 35:26Speaker 4: truly anonymous donor. I have no idea this person is,
- 35:29Speaker 4: and so we encourage people to contribute toward that. Our
- 35:33Speaker 4: greatest need right now is day to day operations funding.
- 35:37Speaker 4: Just like nonprofits all across our country, we're not immune
- 35:41Speaker 4: to the economic circumstances out there, and so we are
- 35:44Speaker 4: working now to fill in a one point five million
- 35:46Speaker 4: dollar gap in our operations funding that needs to be
- 35:51Speaker 4: filled in. This is urgent for us right now to
- 35:54Speaker 4: ensure that we can sustain twenty four to seven operations
- 35:58Speaker 4: you know here two four. So encourage people to take
- 36:01Speaker 4: a look at Starhouse dot us slash donate yes at the.
- 36:05Speaker 2: End, Okay, thank you so much and I appreciate it,
- 36:09Speaker 2: and God speak to all of you who are doing
- 36:11Speaker 2: such great work.
- 36:12Speaker 4: Thank you, Katie. I appreciate the chance to chat.
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