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Episode 160 | Attention · Corie Sheppard Podcast

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh.
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Speaker 2: Give me your wine now.
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Speaker 2: Give, give, give, give.
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Speaker 2: Give me your wine now.
0:43
Speaker 2: I love to make up for all this time.
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Speaker 2: Let me make up for all this time now.
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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, look who, in how long we already see you.
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Speaker 3: It could be both hi-yah or two call to drink out what we gonna do.
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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, long time been a while.
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Speaker 3: We have a sideline, nothing to change.
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Speaker 3: Just to look fine.
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Speaker 3: Look how you looking fine.
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Speaker 3: I taught you how to dance.
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Speaker 3: I taught you went foreign.
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Speaker 3: Look how things just happened now.
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Speaker 3: Look how things just happened now.
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Speaker 3: So let me hug a bad squeeze.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so long I see you, I don't know when we'll bounce up again, so let me take a little train until then.
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Speaker 3: So long I see you, give me your wine now.
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Speaker 3: Give, give, give, give.
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Speaker 3: Give me your wine now.
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Speaker 3: Give me the wine that I want long time now, now, long time, so long I see you Give me your wine now.
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Speaker 3: Give, give, give, give.
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Speaker 3: Give me your wine now and I will make up for all this time.
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Speaker 3: I will make up for all this time.
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Speaker 3: It was just last week when I called your name.
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Speaker 3: I did dance, your friend and them, but last day they talked to you.
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Speaker 3: So long I ain't talked to you, go for me, or in my sight, didn't know you was here tonight.
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Speaker 3: It looked like you're doing alright, like money running, real nice, I taught you how to dance.
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Speaker 3: I taught you went foreign.
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Speaker 3: Look how things just happened now.
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Speaker 3: Look how things just happened now.
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Speaker 3: So long I ain't talked to you, I don't even want to leave you.
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Speaker 3: I don't know when we'll bounce up again.
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Speaker 3: So long I ain't talked to you, so long I see you.
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Speaker 3: Give me your wine now.
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Speaker 3: Give, give, give, give, give.
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Speaker 3: Give me your wine now.
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Speaker 2: Give me the wine that I want long time now.
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Speaker 2: Now here's the episode number, looking for you so long I see you.
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Speaker 2: Give me your wine now, give, give, give, give.
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Speaker 2: Give me your wine now and I will make up for all this time.
2:34
Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 160 El Coris, shepherd, todd, cat.
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Speaker 2: I carry my mow-witch buttoness witch.
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Speaker 2: I carry my mow-witch holly.
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Speaker 2: I don't bear with me.
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Speaker 2: It go be rough.
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Speaker 2: I eased my way back in Pause.
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Speaker 2: Right, I eased my way back in.
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Speaker 2: I just come to tell all they hello, what's good.
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Speaker 2: All they go in.
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Speaker 2: I miss all they.
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Speaker 2: Very, very, very, very, very, very bad.
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Speaker 2: I miss all they.
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Speaker 2: I miss doing this.
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Speaker 2: And I appreciate everybody who send out messages For my eternally grateful for everybody who are Normally already gangsta me when I don't record all the episode later and everybody give me a little very gentle.
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Speaker 2: Nobody gangsta me, they just gently checking on me and they tell me I hope everything alright with your sister.
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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing good, take all the time you need.
3:17
Speaker 2: Now you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate all the messages with the undertone Of what going on me, needy and weak.
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Speaker 2: We in here for a long time and I want to say, too right, that I am a podcast fan Long before I recorded this.
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Speaker 2: I started my own podcast because of how I used to Love listening to other people and love talk.
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Speaker 2: Already, all they know the backstory right.
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Speaker 2: Let me say too that I appreciate all they for going back and revving up the numbers and all the old episodes.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for everybody who went back.
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Speaker 2: People went all the way back to episode one.
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Speaker 2: All they take the time off To catch up all they self on older episodes.
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Speaker 2: So, and now they have some day one people who went back and listen over to all episodes.
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Speaker 2: I thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: But I also very, very grateful for the people who would have gotten onto this podcast when we done reach big numbers already Only 80s, 90s people will come find and they take a little time and went back To the origin of the podcast and see where it came from and how it evolve, and I'm very grateful for that.
4:21
Speaker 2: I hope I end to know all you off with how Boring the older episodes was.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what was on them all episodes.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how I managed to get through it, but thank you for going back and tuning into some of them In my absence.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate everybody who reach out.
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Speaker 2: That was kind.
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Speaker 2: I felt a lot of love and support and I heard you and as a fan of talk radio and podcast, I know how it is when we come and yank episode.
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Speaker 2: Case in point Saturday, gone Until almost from a Joe Burton podcast, the day started and these days I needed more and I was just thinking my ears to carry my truthy day and it was not there due to some controversy With Joe.
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Speaker 2: Joe, he didn't want to talk about puff daddy and him.
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Speaker 2: It looked like you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Daddy accused the beaten up people and case settled, so he take off the episode.
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Speaker 2: So it was Saturday morning, miserable when I can't get my podcast.
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Speaker 2: So I know all you bear with me and I'm glad that you all chose to tune back in and stick with me here.
5:18
Speaker 2: As far as updates, I leave all in a sad but hopeful mood.
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Speaker 2: So I'll give you a quick update on that and I'll see you in the next episode and the topics of the week.
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Speaker 2: Everything is Most of us are showing very slow progress.
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Speaker 2: She's still with us.
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Speaker 2: She's still fighting a very, very good fight.
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Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately, at the end of the last time I talked to you all you had a euthany accident to the past, the way it's all on the second door, and since, the Cardinal family, who are I, got a chance to meet under the worst of circumstances and it couldn't be better people.
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Speaker 2: When people meet under circumstances like those, you never know how it will go.
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Speaker 2: But his mother and father, his sister, his grandmother, they could not be nicer People to be around, given the circumstances, and I want to just express my condolences to them.
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Speaker 2: I was at a funeral.
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Speaker 2: It was quite sad, and same with her Carissa, who also lost her life in the accident.
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Speaker 2: It was so sad.
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Speaker 2: But Condolences to their families.
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Speaker 2: But then it's there.
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Speaker 2: She's fighting, still in hospital, but fighting the good fight.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate all the kind words, everybody who reach out to me and say this, and in the prayers some people say Well, me praying man and noboshid.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate all of it, any positive thoughts, any positive energy.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it All the way she's fighting a good fight and putting up her battle and that battle will continue.
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Speaker 2: She'll be fighting that battle for some time, but we're here, we're here, we're here and I hope this episode really missing all, and my plan really was to play Songs in this episode that have to do with missing and going for long time and who wouldn't want to wait?
6:52
Speaker 2: Because as he sang so I thought he went foreign.
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Speaker 2: I'll take a little runway to foreign To which I will tell only about in this episode.
6:57
Speaker 2: I had a trip planned, Regular annual boys' lime In Miami For kind of like, in November.
7:07
Speaker 2: So I did that.
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Speaker 2: I was very hesitant, I was last minute.
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Speaker 2: I tell them, as I say here, what's going on.
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Speaker 2: If only Simone, the flight are coming.
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Speaker 2: But the way things went, I was happy that my sister was here, sultana's sister, janelle, who was here For all the time with the family, and Her being here gave my strength to go, because I know I mean she's.
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Speaker 2: When the king is absent, the queen could play a role and the queen came and played a role, so I felt comfortable enough to leave.
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Speaker 2: So my plan was to play episodes, songs through this episode.
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Speaker 2: I might still play some, because I have some lined up about missing all here.
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Speaker 2: The biggest missing song is how long.
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Speaker 2: I See with Nadia Batten I also had to open this episode to play Nadia Batten's song for this year Because Nadia Batten is a genius and she just know how to make song.
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Speaker 2: And when you know how to make song, this is the space for you.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad, this song is just bad.
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Speaker 2: This tune is just bad.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad.
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Speaker 3: This song is just bad.
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Speaker 2: Nadia Batten is a genius.
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Speaker 2: And every week we must always pause To recognize genius.
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Speaker 2: Somebody tell me once in life they say anytime you have a chance To witness greatness, try and witness it.
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Speaker 2: And when I was in Miami last in August With my wife no, let me say this Long time I used to bad talk People and say then people had no money, they always run in Miami.
11:12
Speaker 2: I turned into that guy.
11:14
Speaker 2: I have officially turned into that guy.
11:17
Speaker 2: I'm overdoing it.
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Speaker 2: Whenever I meet with financial people Again they are going to have a problem With me because by the end of this episode I probably go out and end up in Miami Again before the year done.
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Speaker 2: It's just completely overdoing it.
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Speaker 2: I can't afford it.
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Speaker 2: But again, when you get the chance to see greatness, don't ever miss that chance.
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Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I end up in Miami Last couple weeks was that we, the regular boys trip the fellas, know how to talk more.
11:45
Speaker 2: They go to Miami and take a new wildlife Not too much flora, more so fauna.
11:49
Speaker 2: Compared to Asafar I don't know where you want to compare it to Go and take a new wildlife, you make up that what you want and we had a chance in this trip To see.
11:59
Speaker 2: I love stand up comedy and I talk about that all the time.
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Speaker 2: All of you who went back to episode 1 you would have heard me say that one of the things I always wanted to do in life Was to be a stand up comedian.
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Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to do.
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Speaker 2: They used to say as a child people would say Fireman, lawyer, engineer, doctor.
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Speaker 2: The first thing I remember saying that I wanted to do my father would say.
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Speaker 2: When he asked what I wanted to be, the first answer I ever had Was I wanted to be a star, and the first one I remember Is that I wanted to be a comedian.
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Speaker 2: So hence the reason why Maybe this part of me living out my dreams In this podcast every week.
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Speaker 2: What we were able to do on this trip Is to see somebody who I consider one of the greatest comedians of all time, the great Bill B.
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Speaker 2: If you're on Netflix and you enter that kind of comedy, bill B is a man who takes serious topics and make jokes Like you remember.
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Speaker 2: Anybody you know Think that he's not supposed to be laughing at his make jokes, but it's, and salute to my guys, jp Edmundo and great Osman is now on this trip.
13:03
Speaker 2: It's a private.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean Old PNM money is now on the trip and I'm wealth.
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Speaker 2: So we had a chance to go and see Bill B At the Hollywood arena.
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Speaker 2: What is it called?
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Speaker 2: Anybody who Would go to Miami or Florida Know the big guitar hotel, if you want to call it that way, and they're trying to head up to Sawgrass and them kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: We went to Hollywood.
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Speaker 2: I keep wanting to say Cafe Hard Rock is not Hollywood, it's Hard Rock Cafe, the Hard Rock Cafe arena, I don't know what it's called, but it's a big, nosebleed section.
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Speaker 2: It was not cheap, but I remember being in Miami with Stacy last time and we could have gone and seen Messi, for it was $400.
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Speaker 2: When I see $400, I take it on a do some quick maths.
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Speaker 2: I say we're not going to see Messi.
13:51
Speaker 2: And the same thing with Beyonce.
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Speaker 2: The Beyonce ticket was about $400 and I was like not going to see Beyonce.
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Speaker 2: But again, this phase of my life here is where I realize how fragile life is.
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Speaker 2: You could be with somebody today and you could be not with Our person tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Right, that's serious.
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Speaker 2: So maybe this boy you want to call it middle life crisis YOLO, fomo, whatever, I suffer from all of it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going back to that guy who said when he get the chance to see greatness, don't miss it.
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Speaker 2: And we had the chance to get those billboard tickets.
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Speaker 2: We got them and we had a great time at the show.
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Speaker 2: I think Billboard is a white boy, he married a black woman and he stands on politics and he's a comedian a little bit more lenient To the democrat side where he's attacked both sides, but very, very funny.
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Speaker 2: Take him in on Netflix if you could, but you had to be open minded and not too.
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Speaker 2: You can't be easily offended if you're watching billboard, which the crowd there seemed to not know Because the crowd was Predominantly white Like when he start making jokes about black people and getting into slavery and saying I had to kind of look around to make sure everybody comfortable With me laughing at these things.
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Speaker 2: Same thing when he was making jokes about white people, because when the KKK jokes come up, ain't too much people laughing.
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Speaker 2: People wasn't finding enough money, but in four ways, four black people laughing in the middle of the thing.
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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to tell myself this could be how the 400 years got started.
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Speaker 2: We could be at year one of the 400, because there's no escaping this arena With all these white folks upset here, the tortures.
15:18
Speaker 2: We could be coming out fast.
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Speaker 2: But again, we had such a great experience then that we say, well, if we see Billboard and we had to check Chappelle Now in our mind we was checking Chappelle, kind of thinking that if we could get To see Chappelle somewhere where it's cheap Enough to get a flight and we could afford to do it Sometime next year.
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Speaker 2: But it turns out that Dave Chappelle will be in that same hard rock cafe or that hard rock hotel Between 26th and 30th December.
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Speaker 2: So I know how to go out and say this here as a way of asking for permission or trying to get my visa stamp home.
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Speaker 2: But when people are hoping that people are so excited To hear about recording because Nobody was more Gently concerned about the podcast Than my wife, you know what I mean she's not putting pressure on me to record.
16:07
Speaker 2: She never really say anything about me Recording or not.
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Speaker 2: Every now and again I would say I'm going on record and she's seen nothing come out and she's saying I'm recording, because every week I say I'm going on record and sometimes I just don't feel like I have it in me.
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Speaker 2: And she's just saying I'm recording and she's just leaving it and she doesn't tell me Because I don't think she's been very, very gentle with it.
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Speaker 2: So I'm using this because I'm expecting that when she see this pop up she's going to be excited to go on stage and when she hear it she's going to buy this reason that I'm going back to Miami again In December.
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Speaker 2: But let me see how that go right.
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Speaker 2: Only pray for me, but I don't want to again.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to miss out on greatness, because Bilbo is great, dave Chappelle is great, but he great Nadia Batzi.
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Speaker 2: I just want to take a moment to say how good she is, because when it comes to putting together a song, it's a great topic structuring the song, making the hook.
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Speaker 2: I just want people to appreciate how hard that is to do Because it can make a nice tune and a nice little melody.
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Speaker 2: It can make something catchy.
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Speaker 2: But when you make a song that could turn into slang, like I'm very interested in this era of song making too, because Somebody songs could become viral, like I was in one of the Part where you could see somebody talent of Miami.
17:19
Speaker 2: I was in one of those establishments.
17:21
Speaker 2: For people who might know, it's a place by the name of Cheetahs.
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Speaker 2: Let's just call it a safari A place called Cheetahs, and in the midst of the cheetahs we're having our enjoyment, we're enjoying ourselves, we're enjoying the scenery, and in the midst of the cheetahs I hear what they're waiting for Put their back in it and then he's bell following out in the club.
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Speaker 2: Now listen For how he jump off the table and start to dance and having a time and balling out and everybody in the club Is watching me like what the hell is going on with these four people.
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Speaker 2: But the DJ appreciated it and the DJ let the Denys Belfort play for the whole time.
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Speaker 2: It was, you know, trinys.
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Speaker 2: It feels so special here and not know Magdae Stallion version and the original Denys Belfort version, but they're back in it, so we enjoy ourselves.
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Speaker 2: We became a part of the entertainment.
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Speaker 2: We do a little dance too.
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: We do like a little one too.
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Speaker 2: When you make songs like those With a line that's so catchy, like put your back in it what you're waiting for them, things could go viral on TikTok or whatever is your new version of TikTok 10 years from now, and the songs get back life over and over and over and hopefully that could mind you for generations If you do it right and I'm feeling like there's nobody who better Doing that than Nadia Batten, because that line If you're looking For sweetness to put inside a basket, I am the whole, the whole, the whole In my gift.
18:48
Speaker 2: That is a winner by itself.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the salute, that and the song just giving more and more, because I really like the juiciness part, paitnes, only juiciness.
18:58
Speaker 2: I wish Cannaval was tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I wish Cannaval was tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I never played Mass or anything Between now and next year.
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Speaker 2: My birthday is after Cannaval next year, but between now and next year I've got to talk to all of you About whether I'll play Mass or not.
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Speaker 2: I'll write a songwriting and put everything together.
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Speaker 2: Everything about Nadia Batten is ideal, but Everybody know who's my favorite artist and who's my favorite songwriter and every week I try to come here and record and I can't get the energy to record.
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Speaker 2: But you know who gave me the energy to record?
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Speaker 2: Attention, I know if the start.
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Speaker 3: We're supposed to do it.
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Speaker 3: Hear lyrics, hear lyrics, hear lyrics, hear lyrics.
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Speaker 2: Listen, we're talking about great songwriters.
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Speaker 2: Nobody could escape the fact that Iowa George wanted greatest songwriters of all time.
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Speaker 2: Listen to how the song got no more valdez To look to valdez, because valdez is so flexible.
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Speaker 2: When you watch the video, all you need to do is go on YouTube and pull up this video.
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Speaker 2: This is Iowa George, happy People.
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Speaker 2: I'll play it back from the top again.
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Speaker 2: This is Iowa George, and every song that he sing and every word that he say is powerful, and I don't know how he come up with it Writing other songs.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing.
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Speaker 2: I've never heard a verse put together like this in my long legged life.
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Speaker 2: But valdez was the one who pointed out that An Iowa video on YouTube is a lyric video.
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Speaker 2: Somebody tell Iowa he need to do a lyric video for this song.
21:22
Speaker 2: Sometimes he need a lyric breakdown Because you can't understand it and the lover song so bad.
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Speaker 2: He want to learn the lines and things Somehow.
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Speaker 2: I feel like we didn't need a lyric video for this, but any lyric video for it.
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Speaker 2: Your boy, iwarn them, spell Tuesday wrong.
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Speaker 2: Attention.
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Speaker 3: If you know, it sing.
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Speaker 1: Send him trinny up in the air.
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Speaker 1: Tell them we have faith.
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Speaker 1: If I'm on the phone and trying to be okay If I choose to phone and something they free up, if I went there for a Sunday, we don't care when we can come, everybody hand in the air.
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Speaker 1: Send him trinny up in the air.
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Speaker 2: Tell them we have faith.
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Speaker 2: Our yandy people tell happy, well, well, happy, well, well.
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Speaker 2: Greatest songwriter in the history of Calypso Soka, kaiso music.
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Speaker 2: Great Neil PYI.
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Speaker 2: With George, you cannot beat him, can only beat him.
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Speaker 2: People listen to opera.
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Speaker 2: If you don't know any, I've been keeping up with it.
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Speaker 2: This song released weekend there, right, well, well, well, and people listen to opera.
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Speaker 2: So, to my surprise, I see this song and I say I have all the energy in the world Needed to record at this moment in time.
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Speaker 2: I used to wonder if I would have found Thing funny again, what I would have laughed at if I would have Be able to do this.
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Speaker 2: And, of course, great as I was George, my favorite Calypsoan, and he bring me right back to the microphone, I say no, okay, eric Corry, time to come out To his lumber, get to work, understand?
24:07
Speaker 2: I'm here with Marshall singing the pledge that it get that bad to be competitive.
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Speaker 2: So I want to know what people think, because I, surprisingly Stacey, send me a petition now With people petitioning to ban this song.
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Speaker 2: Asia Arte I can't remember the name now, who was?
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Speaker 2: Like he, jump on a rhythm In a fet sometime and try to sing.
24:32
Speaker 2: Try to sing me the Anthem over a dance hall rhythm, the name of which I shall not call I think it's Cary John and the police half way arrest him.
24:41
Speaker 2: The police say he will be on your lock up, so I'm not sure if it's illegal, like I was trying to look up to see if it's something illegal About singing the anthem or Making the anthem into a song.
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Speaker 2: I mean, definitely copyright on thing would be a SU, because I don't know what Pat Castani do If he leave it open or if he don't own the rights to the song or if when he write the anthem the country own the right but somebody had only rights to the song and just pops up the whole song and sing Every line, line for line is craziness.
25:07
Speaker 2: But I think I understand what I will go in for.
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Speaker 2: I will try to make everybody stand up in the fet when he first started singing the song and then break where he pointed all the trinidads in the.
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Speaker 2: It gonna work, right.
25:17
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you one time this song is a hit and it gonna work and it gonna be there forever.
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Speaker 2: I've learned over the years not to doubt Neil Iwo George, because, iwo George, I fed up.
25:31
Speaker 2: Here.
25:31
Speaker 2: People come and say Iwo said.
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Speaker 2: He said Iwo died.
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Speaker 2: All the time People say that all the time and, as a Iwo fanboy, iwo is one of the people who love Iowa George and I want to say Iowa.
25:46
Speaker 2: George Zamani is loving hindsight because for me sometimes when I hear Iowa like I scar ticket myself right and I want to.
25:54
Speaker 2: I want to play for you a couple of these songs that when people hear it, people say Iowa is the worst.
26:01
Speaker 2: I want to get loud and I want to hang on the disrespect in the art form and he and respect for these people saying he's thinking nonsense and not just talking about older people now, because I mean we are the older people now, I'm a forties.
26:17
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I hear what he's youth listening to, like I see it on Instagram now our young artist by the name of Nelly Kotoie Nelly Kotoie looking like she trying to promote her song by pretending she playing out her man, and you know I mean that many artists do this.
26:32
Speaker 2: I believe Prophet Benjamin had do some kind of thing with like some woman was he was he's Peltastomia and some woman cat, right cat and they was promoting.
26:41
Speaker 2: This seem to be a new thing on social media like to do some kind of controversy that caught on camera, hype up the name in social media for those who might not hear about them before, bring them back to the forefront for people who know who they are and then record a song and put it out.
26:53
Speaker 2: That seem to be the marketing plan for the songs now and I would definitely using this to propel his song to a higher level because he know that would be controversial.
27:03
Speaker 2: He know everybody would say I was thinking nonsense.
27:06
Speaker 2: But the nonsense going on with people signing petitions to get his song banned, people very, very upset or not, all, I would judge, post, which is that two and three comments before when he's showing here he monkey and he dog and take on our morning and he walking every morning.
27:21
Speaker 2: You know five, six comments.
27:23
Speaker 2: Now they have hundreds of comments with people talking about how disrespectful he is.
27:27
Speaker 2: But I want to go back to a couple of these songs where not just the older generation like maybe come when I would look at Nelly Kotoie song.
27:34
Speaker 2: Nelly Kotoie and them singing nursery rhyme.
27:36
Speaker 2: Their songs not good, they're not original, they're taking melodies from, literally melodies from nursery rhyme.
27:42
Speaker 2: So just like I was taking the anthem, them taking the ABCs, a twinkle, twinkle little star.
27:48
Speaker 2: This is the songs they taken and making hits in this Zess movement.
27:52
Speaker 2: Right, particularly Nelly Kotoie.
27:53
Speaker 2: They're not great songs, but the youths and them are love it.
27:57
Speaker 2: Youths love.
27:57
Speaker 2: Youths are the love their thing.
27:59
Speaker 2: And adults, or we are the rebell against the youth while the youths rebel against us.
28:04
Speaker 2: Right, that's just normal cycle of life.
28:05
Speaker 2: But why, talking about songs that I would like I talk about fat goers, now people who in the fat young people was fed up.
28:13
Speaker 2: I work coming and sing nonsense and I want to play some of them for you.
28:16
Speaker 2: When the, when they, when they come out, there was nonsense.
28:19
Speaker 2: You see this.
28:20
Speaker 2: When this launch, it was nonsense to people.
28:22
Speaker 2: People sing nonsense.
28:30
Speaker 2: What kind of thing is this?
28:31
Speaker 2: I said.
28:31
Speaker 2: And then what happened to this?
28:33
Speaker 2: Now, you remember when people were saying that was garbage.
29:03
Speaker 2: This is another one.
29:04
Speaker 2: The first time I hear this, I say I was really singing.
29:06
Speaker 2: People say I say this was nonsense the first time I hear it because he said I plan is a stop sing, so come and go and live in Green Hill.
29:50
Speaker 2: I just a job, job song.
29:52
Speaker 2: He'd lambi and drink, but that song too much to me.
29:54
Speaker 2: Like I plan is a forget calypso.
29:56
Speaker 2: I'm gonna plant peas in the bagel.
29:57
Speaker 2: It's song like just taking what people do already.
30:02
Speaker 2: I try to make it into something, but I remember being a woodford cafe at time and when he say come to man, the whole woodford cafe them days wasn't movie tongue and up on his stage with Iowa and then he say go away from everybody, went back of the stage and in front of the stage, class a great as Iowa George.
30:18
Speaker 2: I said great is Iowa George and he's not to be doubted or disputed.
30:23
Speaker 2: One of the ones I find was the worse.
30:25
Speaker 2: When I hear the first time I say I were overdoing.
30:28
Speaker 2: I was remember when he sing and and and the.
30:30
Speaker 2: After that when people say is too much and honey come, and he say a song with more hand now and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and and.
30:38
Speaker 2: He's overdue.
30:39
Speaker 2: It's with the nonsense.
30:40
Speaker 2: And when I hear this one I tell myself there is no way nobody gonna listen to this, nobody.
30:46
Speaker 2: This will fall by the wayside.
30:48
Speaker 2: This is garbage and this is either I will.
30:51
Speaker 2: George fanboy said this is the worst.
30:53
Speaker 2: Here, do and now.
30:54
Speaker 2: This is the biggest song on our performing.
30:57
Speaker 2: In fact, when I hear what's it take about, I said but what garbage is this?
31:26
Speaker 2: know, is the biggest song take a bed time to take a bed, I tell myself, is garbage, complete nonsense, complete nonsense.
32:01
Speaker 2: And you have to remember that I will reinvent himself, because now it's not just that he sing their song and take control of it.
32:09
Speaker 2: To the song, I will control the bookings for the near future.
32:13
Speaker 2: Anytime you have a water party, you have a fat in rainy season, the song translate into Spanish.
32:18
Speaker 2: Where you are think Renzo, one of them Spanish men singing and and Kyrie Lee song favorite stage.
32:23
Speaker 2: So I have no doubt that that national anthem song gonna become a huge song.
32:28
Speaker 2: The mistake they make is to take it so serious.
32:30
Speaker 2: They should have just ignore.
32:32
Speaker 2: I will, like I keep Stacy was reminding my brother.
32:34
Speaker 2: I was on a play where I was say you're bam bam looking pregnant, you're shaking it like ignorant.
32:41
Speaker 2: I just want to say that pregnant and ignorant already rhyme.
32:45
Speaker 2: But I will find me to say pregnant and ignorant on a song with Bravo.
32:50
Speaker 2: That song went nowhere, as I expected it to go nowhere, because that is garbage.
32:54
Speaker 2: Sanitation, you know, I mean twice a week we picking up, but it's all by the road when you're ready.
32:59
Speaker 2: But this song would also be sanitation.
33:04
Speaker 2: This was headed straight for the landfill Forest Park beta.
33:08
Speaker 2: You choose your choice.
33:10
Speaker 2: That was headed straight for the landfill.
33:12
Speaker 2: But now that only get a song, all this energy by signing petition and who writes in editorial and thing.
33:18
Speaker 2: Now everybody will never hear the song, hear it before, and I was not the kind of person who you want to show up on a stage with a song that you hate, you like or you're vaguely familiar with, because when he performs the song you are going to change your mind about everything you said about that song, because if you're right on the Iowa John song, it's not worthy paper.
33:39
Speaker 2: It written on.
33:39
Speaker 2: But when I were in front of you singing the song, something different has happened and I want to go back to where I work or a start, and my father's always tell me about this story.
33:47
Speaker 2: I get Kenny back on this podcast.
33:49
Speaker 2: It was a long time he came here and talk but he talks about playing in Kitchener's tent and I was coming with a song trying to get into the tent.
33:57
Speaker 2: He's a brand new artist the big artists and them done in the tent already.
34:00
Speaker 2: So if you had to do any kind of rehearsal, then you're trying to find your way in and he come and do rehearsal and sing a song.
34:07
Speaker 2: With time getting harder right and them fellas in the Kitchener game.
34:10
Speaker 2: They nod you inside.
34:11
Speaker 2: And then I was starting to start to hand out sheet music to the musicians and daddy's always talk about men saying boy you, what you doing, what is you doing?
34:20
Speaker 2: You're inside, you're handing out sheet music again and I was saying which you could imagine him saying in his own point 14 style, very, very laid back roots man style.
34:31
Speaker 2: He said no, but they my real junior, they my junior, they detune me at a play and according to daddy back then, it's only the heavy hitters singing two songs in the tent or singing in the first half and the second half, or doing more than one song at all.
34:43
Speaker 2: So men, watching him like brother, you're gonna spoil your chances.
34:47
Speaker 2: You're done inside.
34:48
Speaker 2: You're looking to mash up your chance now by hand.
34:50
Speaker 2: And now some other song.
34:51
Speaker 2: And I was.
34:53
Speaker 2: He said tears.
34:53
Speaker 2: Now I and I what I know this, I know at always used to hear this story growing up and one time at the other day I bounce up I will buy Simon's.
35:01
Speaker 2: I'm going looking at quattro in Simon's music shop and I see I work, coming to look for instruments and the guy say making a band.
35:07
Speaker 2: He say me I was good during COVID time to write.
35:09
Speaker 2: So he say he was looking for instruments to make a band.
35:11
Speaker 2: So he was studying his income basically because during COVID and not performing so he save our band I could do weddings and them kind of thing.
35:18
Speaker 2: And he was also saying he need a space where he could perform his own songs.
35:22
Speaker 2: He say when I gonna affect, I only have time to perform two, three songs, and only the two, three most recent.
35:28
Speaker 2: He say when I will get to sing my whole catalog, which he have a very big catalog, with all due respect, right.
35:32
Speaker 2: And I ask him.
35:33
Speaker 2: I say, but my father's always tell my story.
35:35
Speaker 2: I want to know if it's true.
35:37
Speaker 2: And I tell him his story and he say, boy, that is truth, that is truth.
35:40
Speaker 2: He say at the, at the cry to get him to play my second song, and it's since.
35:45
Speaker 2: Then they say they say in Iowa, second nonsense.
35:48
Speaker 2: So while he known as the water load, let me not forget that Iowa is your original Bum Bum Master, bum Bum Master.
36:26
Speaker 3: Bum, bum Master.
36:56
Speaker 2: Bum, bum Master.
37:25
Speaker 3: Bum Bum Master, bum Bum Master.
38:23
Speaker 5: Bum, bum Master.
38:54
Speaker 3: Bum, bum Master.
39:05
Speaker 2: I want to be honest with you guys.
39:06
Speaker 2: I know that Iowa George, show your age.
39:08
Speaker 2: Now tell me if you don't know it.
39:09
Speaker 2: If you don't know it, show your age, just want it to be known.
39:12
Speaker 2: So when people sign in petition and thing for them thing, right, I listen.
39:17
Speaker 2: You see the idea of banning a song.
39:20
Speaker 2: It is a bad idea.
39:23
Speaker 2: I want to say that in this era, we in, it's already impossible to ban a song because where you're banning it from back in the days I was saying Bum Bum time in 87, right, bum Bum time might have been banned, to be called Bum Bum in 87, just so right.
39:38
Speaker 2: We as girl, more less sensitive over the years but me and you know if you could have played Bum Bum time and radio them time, but back then you hear an all year music from one source.
39:48
Speaker 2: Radio is not the number one source where people consume music.
39:53
Speaker 2: Now people consume in music more on YouTube and them kind of thing, spotify, apple Music and them kind of places, more than waiting on your radio to play.
40:04
Speaker 2: So when you sign a petition and everybody make Iowa George song the most popular song, where it's not going to happen to the views on YouTube, the views going to go up and the comments.
40:16
Speaker 2: I could tell you, like the comment section on YouTube, iowa comment section for his average songs is taking years to reach a level where the comment section done.
40:24
Speaker 2: Richard, let me see if I could get a number comments for you.
40:26
Speaker 2: The song right now release a couple days ago it done at 111 comments and 16,000 views.
40:34
Speaker 2: All you want to check back with me next week to see how much views it's on and how much views it's on.
40:39
Speaker 2: Some people vex like hell.
40:40
Speaker 2: So people saying so suppose I suppose, to sign at attention for half the song.
40:43
Speaker 2: Yes, you've done that before, many, many times.
40:45
Speaker 2: You've done that in FETS before and nobody else will be thinking about being disrespectful to a song that should be special to their country.
40:53
Speaker 2: But again, mr George, isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
40:56
Speaker 2: Maybe this song is, maybe, maybe is a good song in the politicians.
41:00
Speaker 2: Anyone percent will learn the national anthem.
41:03
Speaker 2: So people, people going off on this thing, somebody here saying censoring songs is a necessity.
41:08
Speaker 2: There are many songs allowed on the radio.
41:10
Speaker 2: This is a standard.
41:11
Speaker 2: Once a DJ plays a song, then we okay, no, this could never be.
41:17
Speaker 2: People again say they want to ban.
41:18
Speaker 2: But this is useful.
41:19
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's useless.
41:22
Speaker 2: Trying to ban a song, okay, everybody going to the runabout, everybody have an opinion.
41:26
Speaker 2: And we just take Nadia Baton's song, which is as close to perfect as a song.
41:31
Speaker 2: I don't want the sweetness to put inside a basket, I am the whole song.
41:37
Speaker 2: Nice.
41:37
Speaker 2: We're going to making this now the most popular song for Cannaval 2024.
41:41
Speaker 2: Better than just if they had ignored it.
41:45
Speaker 2: It would have reached right where bam bam looking pregnant and you're shaking it like an ignorant to the being the same place.
41:52
Speaker 2: But now they make this the number one song and people probably can't wait for IWAT to come and see this song, to see if the police lock him up, to see where it has happened behind this song.
41:59
Speaker 2: But for all these songs that I say was nonsense, there's no reason for me to believe I went and go, come and mash up people.
42:06
Speaker 2: When he come with his tune, he go mash up just like he always does before he get locked up.
42:12
Speaker 2: Forge from the love of liberty in the fires of hope and I hope all this sign up every time I play this one.
42:22
Speaker 3: Well, well, well, well well.
42:50
Speaker 2: I was just playing that to say salute to the great Angersif.
42:52
Speaker 2: The great Angersif, another man who they keep doubting Somehow people.
42:58
Speaker 2: I don't know why it is about Angersif, I don't know if it's because he's a local and I'm not sure if he was people favorite player when he was a player and I'm not sure if he's in normalization committee and in fact that trend, that football and shambles.
43:09
Speaker 2: But or maybe it's just this social media era, because since social media come in and full swing, there's the first time our national team had half decent because we was alright under what he man named Johard Kevin Hart, called our heart Stephen Hart.
43:23
Speaker 2: We was playing pretty decent football under Stephen Hart at a point in time with dead BDUSA.
43:28
Speaker 2: No, steve Hart didn't BDUSA, he might have BDUSA, might have been, might have been St Fleet.
43:35
Speaker 2: Comment to think about it when, when, when Alvin Jones scored our goal was Trinidad coach boy, trinidad versus USA at Oboldon?
43:45
Speaker 2: Let's see if I could find this out.
43:48
Speaker 2: It might have been St Fleet, I think.
43:49
Speaker 2: I think Stephen Hart had already gotten fired back.
43:55
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can remember the words or you know the words.
43:57
Speaker 2: Christian Pulasic was there.
43:59
Speaker 2: Remember that.
44:02
Speaker 2: Who was the team at summary?
44:04
Speaker 2: Gonzalez.
44:05
Speaker 2: Alright, this is the right game I have here, but I'm not seeing who the coach was.
44:11
Speaker 2: I can't see who the coach was.
44:15
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, usually there's a man, just Dennis Lawrence.
44:17
Speaker 2: Sorry, but all due respect, dennis Lawrence.
44:19
Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
44:19
Speaker 2: I would hate to put Dennis Lawrence with Saint Fleet, but I remember Kevin Molino was injured and was in his stands really watching the game at that point in time, who I was?
44:31
Speaker 2: One of our greatest gold stars, recently retired.
44:34
Speaker 2: We'll see if you come back now, but somehow, angus, he figured out something because for the first time since that Atta Bolden fiasco where, if you remember the American players coming here and was bothered, the reason the plane at a bolden is because we had no chance to qualify.
44:47
Speaker 2: The stadium was never going to be full, so they really just went to a smaller venue to make it look like it full and sell tickets cheaper or whatsoever it might be, and make use of some of the venues that we have.
44:59
Speaker 2: I find more of our games should play in Mani Ramjohn, atta Bolden, larry Gomes, dwight York stadium and stuff, because all games don't really sell out like that until the team playing good.
45:08
Speaker 2: So maybe play it in the smaller stadiums.
45:10
Speaker 2: Let the communities come out and support it and hopefully get a bigger crowd where we could use our crowd to intimidate some foreign teams for the smaller tournaments too.
45:20
Speaker 2: But after that winning Atta Bolden stadium, since that 2-1, which we like to talk about a lot that was in 2017 we've conceded 22 gold against the US.
45:31
Speaker 2: Right coming and going is Licks, I think.
45:32
Speaker 2: Out of the 22 gold you can see we might have scored 1 over the years and we get Licks like dirt.
45:38
Speaker 2: The one we scored might have been on the anger, so I think we lose 6-1, but it's Licks like peas every time the US reaches, because that loss in Trinidad was enough to eliminate USA from the World Cup.
45:50
Speaker 2: That would have been in 2018 and it was a big scandal in the US media the way the team came in and they had a little flooding and men didn't want to get a pretty little boot wet on the track, so men ought to get them jockey back to come on the field and they kind of laugh at what we have stood with and pour on the Twitter, and then they get Licks coming and going.
46:08
Speaker 2: So that ended up propelling us to be in some kind of thing in the folklore of US football where we knock them out.
46:14
Speaker 2: You know these things is going sports right.
46:15
Speaker 2: It's kind of hung around for a while and become part of the story.
46:18
Speaker 2: So every time they had to come to Trinidad to play there's a big story around it.
46:21
Speaker 2: So it was with pride that they beat us 6-0 and 3-0 and 5-0 and they beat.
46:26
Speaker 2: You know.
46:27
Speaker 2: I mean it seems glad to whip us when they get the chance to whip us, but the start still remains.
46:32
Speaker 2: Out of the last four games we play against the States, they only win one when we play in Trinidad.
46:37
Speaker 2: So we win to draw one and lose one against the States in recent history.
46:42
Speaker 2: If you want to use numbers to build my argument for why Trinidad is the greatest football team in the world, we competed with the best team in Concord Calf right now, once we bring them here and last night proved that again.
46:52
Speaker 2: I was following the Concord Calf Nations League and I started talking about that since last time I recorded and talked about football and we had beaten Guatemala as expected.
47:03
Speaker 2: Somewhat we lost to Curious right, which I didn't like, but what I liked about the Guatemala game is we, as Dong Tunele believe we come back and win 3-2, the team showing a different level of fight under Angus.
47:12
Speaker 2: Clearly, angus, he figured out something right and I appreciate him for that.
47:16
Speaker 2: But it does seem as though it seems like as the only man who are fated Angus, save as a coach.
47:21
Speaker 2: They say he's changed up the side too much, he's played too defensive, the comments while and I remember one of the last things I was saying is that winning is shuts up most people.
47:32
Speaker 2: You could be critical of somebody as much as you want, but when somebody is, when you win games in sports, whether as a player or as a coach, you're going to silence your critic at some point, but somehow your boy, angus, is unable to silence any kind of critics.
47:49
Speaker 2: Is a rough life is a rough life.
47:51
Speaker 2: He not.
47:51
Speaker 2: People still don't have a lot of faith in them and I don't want to talk about this to one against his states as a win, necessarily on an isolation, because we did lose an aggregate 4-2 and that game could have taken us to the, to the Copa America, right, but the reality is that we play against the US.
48:09
Speaker 2: We got ourselves here by having to convince and wins over Curacao and Guatemala and then we lost to Curacao and some strange.
48:17
Speaker 2: I didn't like that because I mean them kind of sides we had to be whipping, we had to be beating them.
48:21
Speaker 2: When we catch them right, we can't play with them kind of teams we had to separate ourselves.
48:25
Speaker 2: We back any top 100 can't start the season because our results before if there was deplorable on the Fenwick under who else was he coach?
48:35
Speaker 2: Before if our results were deplorable, the team was unwatchable.
48:39
Speaker 2: We just getting licks from the small side and think country where, since you stay sure as them first about 36 people, the whole team on them team, the prime minister is bliss the center back and and and and we get licks from them.
48:51
Speaker 2: Fellas are struggling and drawing a Puerto Rico and then Puerto Rico.
48:54
Speaker 2: Now they now open the Dexport in good in Puerto Rico.
48:57
Speaker 2: Now start a self-booting and and and and we struggling to them team.
49:01
Speaker 2: So at least we at a point now where we we looking decent and we competing and we went to the states earning a quarter final booth and we compete for 80 minutes.
49:11
Speaker 2: Now I don't know no powder if you're watching him.
49:14
Speaker 2: No powder, get a red card right.
49:15
Speaker 2: This is a what we know about his place central defense or central midfield, like defensive midfielder.
49:21
Speaker 2: But whatever you blame he make, one of you was tackles.
49:24
Speaker 2: I've ever seen you on a yellow card the man in your own half.
49:26
Speaker 2: You make a tackle and get a red card, but up to that point USA had all the possession, all the shots on goal.
49:32
Speaker 2: We didn't have much, but USA didn't have a single shot on goal.
49:35
Speaker 2: That was very threatening.
49:37
Speaker 2: Up to that point the team was getting frustrated by not be able to break us down.
49:42
Speaker 2: Reminds me a lot of playing against Sweden in Dortmund, where we was able to hold the team.
49:47
Speaker 2: We went down to 10 minutes, about 60 minutes, and we still hold them for another 20 minutes and people might forget that.
49:54
Speaker 2: The goal, this corners, I mean I like how.
49:57
Speaker 2: I like how we keepers began beat full sports.
49:59
Speaker 2: I didn't like that too much, but other than that, the keeper had a great game, or keepers was great Smith, but he really got.
50:08
Speaker 2: I mean that was a world-class goal.
50:09
Speaker 2: It was across that.
50:10
Speaker 2: Come out on the man, take a flick and it's squandering.
50:12
Speaker 2: I think we kind of lose shape.
50:13
Speaker 2: But again, with 10 minutes gonna be difficult.
50:15
Speaker 2: No problem.
50:16
Speaker 2: Born in the states and also watching, no problem different.
50:18
Speaker 2: I know if you sell out to each thing and I know his situation, I know we're gonna know powder, but I was a terrible tackle.
50:23
Speaker 2: So we end up losing 3-0 over there and then by the time we come to, trinidad was always uphill task.
50:29
Speaker 2: We had to win 4-0.
50:31
Speaker 2: So to go through which, I mean a 4-0 win against the state, would be just short of a miracle.
50:36
Speaker 2: But if anybody could pull over miracles and we can see the early, then in boy, I thought no powder red card was ridiculous.
50:46
Speaker 2: That you dust from the states is one of the most stupid red like he wanted to go back home because he kicked away the ball from nothing.
50:52
Speaker 2: Customary referee for nothing.
50:55
Speaker 2: When you won up in a game with over two legs, you, you 4-0 at this point comfortably bossing me game, and I mean credit to Angus, to the game, to the number 8.
51:04
Speaker 2: We squawk.
51:05
Speaker 2: Soon after I read card, I think we struggle to squagging.
51:09
Speaker 2: I mean I was, I like all.
51:10
Speaker 2: He made three changes and it was supposed to get, you know, young, strong legs on and they never looked threatening to USA.
51:18
Speaker 2: After that second goal and again the great Alvin Jones scoring a world class free kick.
51:23
Speaker 2: I mean I said I'm not sure what you're giving.
51:25
Speaker 2: Zachary has never going in the stadium for that, but so to them.
51:28
Speaker 2: So to them our winners are.
51:29
Speaker 2: Win is not exactly a win because we lost 4-2 in aggregate, but we beat USA, which bodes well for my qualifying campaign for 2026, because now we don't beat USA again, but at least we know home time.
51:42
Speaker 2: The best team that they have that they sign here should be frightened when they come to our stadium.
51:47
Speaker 2: And I saw one comment that like somebody was saying, listen, when you lost Trinna LeBron, the better thing to do is that, like advertising game heavy, make it free and fully.
51:56
Speaker 2: Stay there, man, see if you can get intimidation factor.
51:58
Speaker 2: You know, because I mean you had to go all out.
52:00
Speaker 2: You could lose that game 6-0, it doesn't matter, it wouldn't matter if you win by a small margin or you lose.
52:05
Speaker 2: So it would be good to see us go all out.
52:07
Speaker 2: But for Angus Eves legacy, for his tenure and everything, next game is in March, where we have some chances to qualify for Copa America.
52:15
Speaker 2: Still, I know what happened to me when you go Copa America, but he might play with 9 defenders and 2 keepers.
52:22
Speaker 2: But let me say I would go.
52:24
Speaker 2: At least we get an exposure so that by the time we come for qualifying for the World Cup.
52:27
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be beaten people.
52:28
Speaker 2: I'm sure this result will help us move.
52:30
Speaker 2: I think we're 99 in the world now, but America is 11, so hopefully this gets to jump.
52:36
Speaker 2: A few more points.
52:37
Speaker 2: Sorry about the long sports thing, but all you know, all you know how I feel about the Warriors, right, you know how I feel about the Warriors and we looking like we headed in the right direction.
52:47
Speaker 2: So please let me try and put with support behind Angus, because I'm not sure why.
52:58
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he's such a hated figure.
53:02
Speaker 2: I'll put in it up to.
53:05
Speaker 2: I put in it down to the fact that people don't like the normalization committee and Hagenaz was he Hagenaz?
53:12
Speaker 2: My name again had had.
53:13
Speaker 2: I put in it down to that and hopefully we get somewhere beyond this point.
53:19
Speaker 2: Right, but I did promise only some songs about missing people and I just want to play a slice of this before coming and talk about some articles that this episode not overly long.
53:28
Speaker 2: I just get back into the group, but they have some things that I want to point out, but before that I want to play one of my favorites when it comes to missing people.
54:01
Speaker 5: Don't you remember?
54:03
Speaker 5: Always fought together.
54:05
Speaker 5: We know that we would, would never leave each other.
54:09
Speaker 5: Pampampueyo, pampampueyo, pampampueyo Pampampueyo.
54:16
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
54:19
Speaker 5: I'm too hungry.
54:21
Speaker 5: I never heard you shudder.
54:23
Speaker 5: I ask you, please forgive me.
54:27
Speaker 5: Come back to me, baby.
54:29
Speaker 5: Don't let us Now break up all of me.
54:33
Speaker 5: Strong God in love with me, and let us make up Pampampueyo, pampampueyo, pampampueyo Pampampueyo.
54:45
Speaker 5: Don't you remember?
55:03
Speaker 5: Always fought together.
55:05
Speaker 5: We know that we would, would never leave each other, don't you remember?
55:10
Speaker 5: Don't you remember?
55:13
Speaker 5: Always fought together.
55:15
Speaker 5: We know that we would, would never leave each other.
55:19
Speaker 5: Pampampueyo Pampampueyo, pampampueyo Pampampueyo.
55:27
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:29
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:31
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:33
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:35
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:37
Speaker 5: Come on back.
55:38
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
55:41
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living creative.
55:45
Speaker 5: Melvinas are living forever.
56:04
Speaker 5: Sina, come on back.
56:06
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't you remember?
56:10
Speaker 5: Always fall together.
56:13
Speaker 5: We know that we will Never leave each other.
56:17
Speaker 5: Don't you remember?
56:18
Speaker 5: Always fall together.
56:21
Speaker 5: We know that we will Never leave each other.
56:26
Speaker 1: Come back way yo, come back way yo, come back way yo.
56:33
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name these singers.
56:34
Speaker 2: You know, kaisa, listen, I see articles in the papers.
56:39
Speaker 2: I want to point out this is for the long.
56:40
Speaker 2: I had one set of old things here to be outdated, but I had to go back to some of them.
56:44
Speaker 2: I had to go back to some of them.
56:46
Speaker 2: I'll let you forgive me, but I had to go back because there was one thing that I had in my notes for a long time to talk about.
56:53
Speaker 2: This is a girl I believe is in SEPARIO, and they were talking about who in SEPARIO.
57:00
Speaker 2: Oh, they had a video going viral, sorry, where she she caught some of the teacher, right, she caught some of the teacher.
57:06
Speaker 2: This is something I had to talk about for a long time and I mean you all know I mean plenty of people who listen from back in the day know my philosophy about fairness and grace and second chances, so they're probably seeing where I'm going with this already, right, Especially people who get a chance to go back and listen to episodes before.
57:24
Speaker 2: Well, you know I always beg for somebody, right.
57:26
Speaker 2: So I come really to beg for the young girl, because the article, really the history of events, was that she followed the teacher.
57:34
Speaker 2: She was extremely disrespectful.
57:36
Speaker 2: There's nothing he could do to excuse her behavior.
57:39
Speaker 2: Right, I want to put that out there and a part of it.
57:41
Speaker 2: The teacher was.
57:42
Speaker 2: The teacher seemed shocked and a little bit afraid of the little girl and the girl was getting in the teacher's face and I was planning to tell some stories about my very disrespectful ways in school and so on.
57:52
Speaker 2: But I now come back.
57:53
Speaker 2: I can't tell you all about that now.
57:54
Speaker 2: I'm fresh back.
57:56
Speaker 2: I can't expose myself at this point.
57:59
Speaker 2: Some of the things I've said.
58:00
Speaker 2: Right, the teachers I can't tell you all how.
58:03
Speaker 2: I was in a class I wasn't supposed to be in a time in Fatima, and this is not my, I don't do in sciences, I do in business, but any science class, lime and talking.
58:12
Speaker 2: I'm back to the teacher while she's teaching and I can't tell you all that.
58:15
Speaker 2: I was Miss Lutrimon, who was a very young teacher.
58:17
Speaker 2: When he think about it now she might have been 21, 22.
58:19
Speaker 2: Fresh out of school, teaching in school, fresh, fresh out of Convent and teaching in Fatima, and I ain't gonna tell her how.
58:28
Speaker 2: She told me I had to come out of the class and I ain't not even in this class and she going on around and I ain't even turn around and I was like Miss, take your time with me and everybody laugh because I've been living for a laugh since then, right, and she was so upset she said I go into the dean and say, miss, I don't business, but no, dean Me, I'm not even turn around to watch you.
58:45
Speaker 2: Woman in the dark, that is what I can tell her in this story.
58:46
Speaker 2: And then she say, young man, you are so disrespectful, you need somebody to blow your trumpet.
58:52
Speaker 2: And I say only my girl could blow my trumpet.
58:55
Speaker 2: Looks like fire.
58:59
Speaker 2: No one much beg.
59:00
Speaker 2: I had to beg not to get suspended when the dean come and take my dean and also find out how it's funny.
59:04
Speaker 2: So look, miss, I'm tapping at the time he find out how she does funny as hell.
59:07
Speaker 2: So he ain't suspended.
59:08
Speaker 2: But she was very, very disrespectful and I depended this life on the second chances and the grace of many, many, many people to be able to see my way.
59:20
Speaker 2: And I mean now that, dealing with as the amount of tragedy I see in the last month and a half, no self.
59:26
Speaker 2: I want to get everybody grace, everything I do.
59:28
Speaker 2: I want to tell people sorry and I want, I want, I want nobody had to tell me sorry ever.
59:32
Speaker 2: I want to forgive fast because I know the reality of life now.
59:35
Speaker 2: Where you could be here today, go on tomorrow.
59:38
Speaker 2: I could be here today and be a completely different person tomorrow.
59:41
Speaker 2: I see in that live and it's hard, the it's hard to grasp, so even more want to offer people grace.
59:48
Speaker 2: So I was really coming here to say that when they expelled the little girl from school, yes, she had to be punished, right, and yes, it was bad that in the midst of the things she say I'll call my mother and she call and she say mommy, and those talking to the mother, and if I know what I will tell you, is that story about the trumpet.
1:00:04
Speaker 2: This going to be the first time my mother ever heard our story because right now, right now, right now, right, my mother, I was doing them things for a fright.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: That was never a catalyzed story.
1:00:14
Speaker 2: I can't tell you the story about when the teacher called me out and I making noise and it's, it's, it's rockers in the class and the teacher told me listen, you take, pack up all your bags and come to the top right hand corner of this class and stand there for this whole class.
1:00:29
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you how I take my time and must be put every book.
1:00:33
Speaker 2: It must take me 15 minutes to the whole class.
1:00:35
Speaker 2: Stop in the place quiet now and I take my time and empty my desk.
1:00:38
Speaker 2: I take my time because they taken my time thing right and the before I say the trumpet thing, it was really to get everybody attention, you know, because it's 40 people in the class and everybody might not see what going on.
1:00:50
Speaker 2: So since then I have a little comedic timing.
1:00:52
Speaker 2: You know which I learned from Bilba and them.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: Right, I see in how Bilba and them is doing now.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: But I had to get the whole room attention before I do.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: I do so.
1:01:00
Speaker 2: I take my time and I pack up and when the class gets silent I take my time and walk up to the class.
1:01:04
Speaker 2: Now, when I reach any corner I drop my books up in the corner and the ceiling and I start to climb up.
1:01:09
Speaker 2: He said young man, what are you doing?
1:01:10
Speaker 2: I said, sir, you tell me when you top right on corner the class, when you talk about class clones, professional class clones, they're dealing with right living for these moments when I go to school, once again out of bag of suspension.
1:01:24
Speaker 2: But again, there's no point in life where I will think God out my thoughts to even say the words call my mother or call my father, because my mother mad and my father mad and I ain't calling them to come in the school.
1:01:40
Speaker 2: So when I see the girl call her mother I say, oh Lord, what is happening at home where you could be so comfortable to pick up your phone about mommy?
1:01:49
Speaker 2: I would have never tried to let my parents on and me and talk about my parents alone and bigger cousins, me and then Caroline Barney and them.
1:01:56
Speaker 2: No, I know, listen his problems is probably I wouldn't, I wouldn't let them know the things I do in school, not an aunt, not an uncle, not a big cousin, I just play in the fool on my own.
1:02:08
Speaker 2: So I realize this girl, coming from a household where certain things not as tightly run as they were in my school, I can't play it for you because it really song bad and I feel for the teacher.
1:02:19
Speaker 2: But I really feel for the student when I see she get expelled from school and now I mean we can't do that.
1:02:24
Speaker 2: We had to punish them.
1:02:25
Speaker 2: But to punish is not to condemn.
1:02:28
Speaker 2: You know my feeling about jail and all them things.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: I don't find them things right.
1:02:31
Speaker 2: You cannot end somebody life because of a mistake they make or bad choices that they make.
1:02:36
Speaker 2: What we had to do is be more there for them and give them support.
1:02:40
Speaker 2: Yes, she shouldn't be able to show back up to school the next day and do that again.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: I agree with that right.
1:02:45
Speaker 2: But it can't be just kick you out of the school system and like offend for yourself.
1:02:48
Speaker 2: Because what do you think wouldn't happen if somebody who Emboldened enough to do that at that age and talk to adults like that and call them mother when they left by the wayside out of the school system and we don't put something in place to replace that?
1:03:02
Speaker 2: Or what she needs is extra love and extra care and extra discipline, not less.
1:03:07
Speaker 2: So when she have less structure and less to look forward to, one way I think wouldn't happen to her.
1:03:14
Speaker 2: But Marley say, could run by Karen from yourself.
1:03:16
Speaker 2: You know she's a part of us, she in the same society we live in and if we just leave it to be where, she, expelled from school and she know we had to face her again in life, we had to face her again when, when it's when.
1:03:29
Speaker 2: It's when.
1:03:29
Speaker 2: I don't want to put it on her that she would end up in a life of crime, but when, when society showing you what it's showing you and turn it out today, again, I don't like to talk about migrating too much.
1:03:41
Speaker 2: This podcast teach me a lot about people who live in abroad.
1:03:44
Speaker 2: To be kind, I used to say, boy, once they leave trying to die, they're a fraud.
1:03:46
Speaker 2: But now I stand to understand what people going through when they live in abroad and so on.
1:03:50
Speaker 2: And now I think you know what migrating more and more.
1:03:55
Speaker 2: Because this thing where you see that thing yesterday a man going in insurance thing, kill the ex-wife, shoot the ex-wife.
1:04:00
Speaker 2: I think the woman there run out, shoot a man and kill him.
1:04:03
Speaker 2: The man just driving.
1:04:04
Speaker 2: He came in with his right share driver, he just parked up outside, kill the fella, grab, take the car and go on and kill yourself.
1:04:10
Speaker 2: A man who just I, just in my car, the woman just doing her insurance thing.
1:04:15
Speaker 2: It doesn't leave this man, you and this man done.
1:04:18
Speaker 2: But society cannot escape the way we raise people If we, collectively, we can't keep saying this thing where is the parents responsibility?
1:04:27
Speaker 2: That is true, your household is responsible for raising you, but if your household dropped the ball and society don't pick up the slack, we still going to be living here.
1:04:37
Speaker 2: And then when your wife leave you or you get a little horn and you want to kill the driver outside the thing, you didn't even just shoot in here or you just kill random people.
1:04:44
Speaker 2: We can't escape the way we raise people.
1:04:47
Speaker 2: We can't escape what society is, society we live in here.
1:04:51
Speaker 2: Even for people who live in abroad and get a chance to come back.
1:04:55
Speaker 2: Imagine you live out there and you work.
1:04:58
Speaker 2: I see so many examples of people who went out there Clean people, flow and see about people, white chair and do them thing for years.
1:05:05
Speaker 2: Collect their money now buy a nice house and trend out and I feel like it come and relax Somebody kicking in your door as an elderly person.
1:05:12
Speaker 2: We had to change the way we see and use and who responsible and think.
1:05:17
Speaker 2: Because when I was growing up, my mother and them my mother and them was over responsible.
1:05:22
Speaker 2: They was too responsible as far as I concerned.
1:05:24
Speaker 2: But it wasn't just my mother, it was my uncles and my aunts and my big cousins and them On my father's side.
1:05:30
Speaker 2: Now it's same thing.
1:05:31
Speaker 2: Uncles and aunts, I will always remember I will have a cousin to this podcast.
1:05:34
Speaker 2: So this is my guy, marlon.
1:05:36
Speaker 2: I always remember he was a cousin to us, so he's not like an authority figure.
1:05:41
Speaker 2: But he and our next cousin, carla, they were the older of all the cousins, they were about 15, are we?
1:05:46
Speaker 2: But them wasn't.
1:05:48
Speaker 2: No, them wasn't your friend.
1:05:50
Speaker 2: These cousins on their, laughing and thinking about them and in charge when they home and my grandmother and my grandfather going to work, my grandmother going one way or she can't control me again.
1:06:00
Speaker 2: I'm a father out here working or whatever he doing, everybody out the house.
1:06:04
Speaker 2: It's not like you could have just run riot when my other than Carla number on them, them playing in your place.
1:06:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not just a free fall.
1:06:14
Speaker 2: And then when a Sunday come, no, as you, least religious money could ever come over.
1:06:18
Speaker 2: So when a Sunday come back in the day, I go in send Christmas church on a morning, then unity midday, then Sunday school in Ebenezer in the evening.
1:06:27
Speaker 2: So the church player role.
1:06:28
Speaker 2: I was going to play football.
1:06:30
Speaker 2: Now in the park in St James, a man named Kujufi.
1:06:33
Speaker 2: Up to now, like I wonder sometimes, like what make people like Kujufi give his life to be in a football coach and could you just coaching us.
1:06:42
Speaker 2: I don't know that he ever used to get pay.
1:06:44
Speaker 2: I don't know how we use organized transport for us to go.
1:06:47
Speaker 2: Me and my mother used to send money to pay for us to go games.
1:06:50
Speaker 2: We have water to drink, we are.
1:06:51
Speaker 2: We are not mean we play football.
1:06:53
Speaker 2: I don't know what make people like Japan, them who run a, who say, yeah, organized cricket thing, and we go and play people in cricket in the center.
1:07:01
Speaker 2: I not sure always make people do those things, but a big part of it is the community was seeing about.
1:07:07
Speaker 2: It wasn't just, it wasn't just left to your parents.
1:07:10
Speaker 2: So, even using our area I can call no names right, but I use to know a parent wasn't stable, there wasn't also structured like my mother and there was a little over stable, but it wasn't like that.
1:07:22
Speaker 2: They didn't have much of a household, but they still had the community, they still had the block, they still had the sports, they still had the church.
1:07:30
Speaker 2: So if money block right, the block was a place for my father never liked to see me on the block, but one of the things I use to have money block all the time is that I fell on him, carlos, living on the corner.
1:07:39
Speaker 2: You still.
1:07:40
Speaker 2: I remember him every time I come from school and I want to lie money block because I want to be one of the boys.
1:07:44
Speaker 2: Carlos always say go man, change that uniform, don't stay on the thing with your school uniform, which is a kind of discipline in itself.
1:07:53
Speaker 2: You know, I can't disrespect Carlos.
1:07:55
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have taken God out of my thoughts because Carlos is going to hit you some sl listen that not going anywhere, carlos, going to some slap.
1:08:02
Speaker 2: So they had a certain amount of structure and discipline and consequences and reward that was happening in different parts of the society, in the church and the community and the sports and all those different things.
1:08:14
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that our generation was any better than any other.
1:08:17
Speaker 2: I think this young generation is the best that the world had to offer and the one after them will be better than the ones who take any world ahead.
1:08:25
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit about Diane Gadsby, dolly, talking about the education system and whether we're producing winners or losers.
1:08:33
Speaker 2: But we can't leave this, we can't go steps backward now because these families get more.
1:08:43
Speaker 2: Nuclear is just mommy and daddy and the children.
1:08:46
Speaker 2: So, which means if mommy and daddy disappear, the structure fall down completely.
1:08:49
Speaker 2: I grew up in a household where if mommy and daddy disappear, I still had 10, 15, so the different people to answer to.
1:08:55
Speaker 2: It was a big household.
1:08:56
Speaker 2: So we go into our society now where neighbors don't know one another.
1:09:00
Speaker 2: We isolate ourselves from everybody the children growing up on their own.
1:09:05
Speaker 2: So when mommy and daddy go on and they get, or mommy and daddy don't have the structure, don't have the tools or you know they had they dealing with addiction or something that the parents dealing with.
1:09:14
Speaker 2: That cause any household to fall apart.
1:09:15
Speaker 2: We just let them come out in society and be whatever.
1:09:18
Speaker 2: I think is a huge step backward and I want to play a little tune here, a little tune from an artist that I love by the name of Brie Go, and is one of the best songs I could find in relation to this little girl getting expelled and I hope she finds plenty guidance with this expulsion Taking this little tune.
1:09:43
Speaker 4: When I was a little fella, growing right here in this land, I used to see the other little fella showing respect to the elder one.
1:09:55
Speaker 4: But today I run the corner.
1:09:59
Speaker 4: All of that change entirely.
1:10:02
Speaker 4: Today.
1:10:03
Speaker 4: They marching you, squeezing your bones in you, shooting you without saying sorry, like if you walking in the dark, like if you walking in the dark as long as man have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:10:22
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark, like if you walking in the dark as long as man have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:10:35
Speaker 4: When I was a little fella and my parents and me to school, all why beat around the corner.
1:10:45
Speaker 4: I had to show respect as a rule.
1:10:49
Speaker 4: But today it got some little fella, my friend, they don't know their place.
1:10:55
Speaker 4: They will see I and you, walking up on Dung De Street and crossing in front of me, feels Like if you walking in the dark.
1:11:05
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark as long as man have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:11:15
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark.
1:11:18
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark as long as man have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:11:28
Speaker 4: When I was a little fella Growing in my parents place, I used to see a lot of supper.
1:11:38
Speaker 4: I had to borrow and see me grease.
1:11:42
Speaker 4: But today it got some little fella, my friend.
1:11:46
Speaker 4: They don't know their place.
1:11:48
Speaker 4: They will see I and you walking up and down the street and crossing in front of me feels Like if you walking in the dark.
1:11:58
Speaker 4: Like if you, walking in the dark as long as man, have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:12:08
Speaker 4: Who are you Like if you, walking as long as man, have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land?
1:12:23
Speaker 4: When I was a little fella Growing in my parents place, just before I go to take my supper, I had to borrow and see me grease.
1:12:35
Speaker 4: But today it got some little fella, my friend.
1:12:40
Speaker 4: You tell him time to eat.
1:12:42
Speaker 4: They will not give thanks to the man above the one that have them on the feet.
1:12:50
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark.
1:12:52
Speaker 4: Like if you, walking in the dark as long as man, have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:13:02
Speaker 4: Like if you walking, like if you walking and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:13:16
Speaker 4: When I was a little fella Growing in my father's land, I used to see a lot of maran papa showing respect to little children.
1:13:29
Speaker 4: But today it got some maran papa going to be.
1:13:34
Speaker 4: The children don't fall Because a lot of us just starting cash, not starting to trade with kids and pawns, like if you walking in the dark.
1:13:46
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark as long as man have no respect for man and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:13:56
Speaker 4: Like if you walking in the dark.
1:13:59
Speaker 4: Like if you walking and all to catch good hell in this land.
1:14:11
Speaker 2: Like if you walking Kaiso, kaiso, kaiso.
1:14:16
Speaker 2: So I'm going back to Gatsby Daliere.
1:14:17
Speaker 2: She say are we producing winners or losers?
1:14:20
Speaker 2: Education Expert highlights the challenges in the school system.
1:14:23
Speaker 2: The education system in Trinidad de Bego is producing winners and losers.
1:14:26
Speaker 2: This is the view of Education Expert Professor Pedro Antonio Noguera of the USR-Rossier School of Education University of South Carolina in the US.
1:14:36
Speaker 2: We weren't there for many years and we were only lost in about anyway.
1:14:39
Speaker 2: Speaking to the United States, speaking to UE and the Guardian, life Premium Open Lecture Series 2023 on the theme of redefining educational success post pandemic challenges and opportunities at the Senegal St Campus, noguera said the inequity in schools in the country was glaring.
1:14:55
Speaker 2: He said, no matter where.
1:14:56
Speaker 2: Eleventh, trinidad de Bego, we know the school your child attends is supposed to provide an education that is sound, stimulating and safe.
1:15:03
Speaker 2: If that's not the case, then we are producing winners and losers and we cannot afford to lose anyone.
1:15:08
Speaker 2: We also know that part of the tradition we've inherited is in education, is colonial tradition, and that needs to be.
1:15:15
Speaker 2: There needs to be more of a cultural process.
1:15:18
Speaker 2: Noguera was born in New York, but is Trinidadian, venezuelan and Jamaican heritage.
1:15:22
Speaker 2: Your father was all wrong.
1:15:23
Speaker 2: The schools that function in a colonial system are designed to reproduce a colonial world.
1:15:29
Speaker 2: He said that they were designed to produce passive, obedient pupils.
1:15:33
Speaker 2: Let me repeat that right.
1:15:34
Speaker 2: He said that the school system the function in a colonial system and is designed to reproduce a colonial world.
1:15:42
Speaker 2: He said that they were designed to produce passive, obedient pupils.
1:15:46
Speaker 2: Tell me if that was what your school experience was like.
1:15:49
Speaker 2: I find so, to be honest, because a big part of the school experience was really to make us obedient and passive.
1:15:55
Speaker 2: I want to say not just not like obedient in terms of discipline, more obedient in terms of simply do.
1:16:04
Speaker 2: As I say, it doesn't matter.
1:16:06
Speaker 2: If you have a, you can't question it.
1:16:07
Speaker 2: You can't get to the root of why you do things, and it was difficult to do that in school.
1:16:12
Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't what it was about.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: It was about making cogs.
1:16:16
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:16:16
Speaker 2: You had to fit in a space.
1:16:17
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: We, we, we.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: We build schools to create factory workers.
1:16:21
Speaker 2: So he went on to say these schools are designed to serve these old needs.
1:16:25
Speaker 2: So as we contemplate our future and think about this generation of younger people that we serve, ask how many of them will be forced to lead, and how many of them will end up in the USA and Canada or somewhere else, and it will seek an opportunity.
1:16:36
Speaker 2: We can't continue to lose so much talent, and so, while we want our schools and universities to be positioned to respond to the news of society and prepare for the future, we have to ask ourselves how are they doing this with?
1:16:50
Speaker 2: How do we teach critical thinking, communication, collaboration, creativity and character?
1:16:55
Speaker 2: How do we ensure that when we, when they leave our schools, they are prepared for not just another test, but for life?
1:17:00
Speaker 2: As we contemplate how to go about this change, we have to ask ourselves how do we strike balance between the purpose of education and life?
1:17:08
Speaker 2: I liked his stance, and somebody thinks he was saying this a little bit of a long article, right, and he was quoted.
1:17:14
Speaker 2: While I appreciate the express for putting forward this, uh, this piece of information about him and the things he had to say about our system, because that's one of the things I find is a a critique that we hear often about our education system, I don't think it's designed uh, it's designed for mass, and if you don't fit into the mass, you could, you could, you could get very hard on yourself and start to feel like you're duncey, like I went through a big part of primary school feeling like I, that is a dance.
1:17:42
Speaker 2: Like I'm not, I can't cope with what it's hard.
1:17:44
Speaker 2: It's hard to follow.
1:17:45
Speaker 2: I didn't know until I was almost an adult that when I was in new tongue boys my grades were good and I was coming to some thing in class.
1:17:53
Speaker 2: I was always in the A stream.
1:17:54
Speaker 2: I never thought about that.
1:17:56
Speaker 2: I never thought about the fact that, corey, you're in the A stream and you're qualifying for the A stream classes all the time, which means you already have something in you.
1:18:03
Speaker 2: My problem was that I was last in the A stream so every time I had a carry on my report book and it's saying to something in tests and the class had to be something.
1:18:10
Speaker 2: People are feeling real bad Now watching the boys who come in first and second in tests and I was like amazed by how bright they were.
1:18:18
Speaker 2: When you look back at it now, they were coming first and second in class on 99% and I was coming to Tiot with 92%.
1:18:26
Speaker 2: So even in the way it communicated to you how you're coming along and what you're doing at the all standard five teachers.
1:18:33
Speaker 2: So God bless us all.
1:18:35
Speaker 2: Missing clear Uh would have always had me down as going to my first choice.
1:18:40
Speaker 2: But I didn't know these things because, again, according to no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, these systems designed to produce passive, obedient people.
1:18:49
Speaker 2: So if I feel like I doing bad or you telling me but I hold on to a lot of them, things all through, life is really in you, we I might have started to accept, or possibly A levels, repeating, a levels that I started to accept, that okay, I could actually do this education thing and I think that's why, more than ever, I enjoy lecturing, I enjoy doing.
1:19:08
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could teach, turn and all.
1:19:10
Speaker 2: To be honest, I know I don't have the patience to keep the class quiet Like so little Stacy, and then all the teachers who listen to this, like you see the the talking while I talking and I have to keep you quiet and try to get you focused.
1:19:21
Speaker 2: I deal with adults.
1:19:22
Speaker 2: So if I teach in our class here and I talk into all the pain, attention, and you always started to talk to one another I just turn the next direction and sort of talk to somebody else on zoom.
1:19:31
Speaker 2: I just do the class.
1:19:33
Speaker 2: If people feel not answer questions, I go on as you.
1:19:35
Speaker 2: You paying for this on the parents and pay no more.
1:19:37
Speaker 2: So I kind of like adult education.
1:19:39
Speaker 2: But the reason I enjoy it, to be honest, is that I like to hear the struggles people have with education and the way they see education and the way they see themselves as being capable or not of learning a topic or passing an exam or whatever, and kind of meet people where they are and help them to unlock something in themselves.
1:20:01
Speaker 2: That, for me, right when I was learning elders lessons and there were a few teachers to who I mean I can go through a whole list of people, but Mr Ram Singh in Fatima was one of them people who teach me economics and they were not just teaching you to pass the class at that young age.
1:20:17
Speaker 2: You think about it.
1:20:18
Speaker 2: When you did the economy is 13 and 14 years old.
1:20:21
Speaker 2: I had concept of grasp.
1:20:22
Speaker 2: I never work for a dollar a day.
1:20:23
Speaker 2: Why know about economics?
1:20:24
Speaker 2: I don't know.
1:20:25
Speaker 2: I don't have any practical examples of it that could fall back on to relate to what you're saying, but I felt as though people like Mr Ram Singh, mr Gibson, they was teaching you a lot about life, like to prepare you to learn anything more than just econ.
1:20:40
Speaker 2: Because one of the things I miss around saying all is you to focus on was how you're taking notes.
1:20:44
Speaker 2: So he would look at how you take the notes and come and gently I look like people ball at me up to now I can't take people balling and me to talk to me nice.
1:20:52
Speaker 2: But when he come he will tell you all right, but if you take the note like this, how you're going to remember?
1:20:56
Speaker 2: That is four things why you're operating bullet points and make it.
1:20:59
Speaker 2: Something's also obvious now.
1:21:01
Speaker 2: But when you're young and you're now learning the world, I was like, well, yeah, and you remember we in school and turn up all points you know.
1:21:06
Speaker 2: So I had to say, well, all right, the fourth part of our economy is land, labor, capital and enterprise.
1:21:11
Speaker 2: And I put them in four lines now and I could visualize my notes.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: I could understand it, you know.
1:21:16
Speaker 2: So he was teaching me econ.
1:21:18
Speaker 2: Yes, but if I applied that in physics it could help me to learn it and see it clearer too.
1:21:24
Speaker 2: So I appreciated him for the way he approached education as a whole, not just as a passing, as an exam.
1:21:31
Speaker 2: So I tried to listen to students a lot and hear where their insecurities are, where the weaknesses might be and I ain't just preparing you for my class and my exam and them kind of thing.
1:21:40
Speaker 2: I try to show you listen exams possible.
1:21:43
Speaker 2: You're not going to know how to do some, quite that's fine.
1:21:45
Speaker 2: You know the material.
1:21:47
Speaker 2: You could fall back on your own experience.
1:21:49
Speaker 2: You could talk about your own working life and so on.
1:21:51
Speaker 2: And I had this opportunity recently where salute to star broadcasting and Nigel Nicholson where was a student for a long time.
1:21:58
Speaker 2: I learned radio broadcasting and he reached out to me and they are very reluctantly accepted his, his call for me to come and teach podcast into these.
1:22:10
Speaker 2: Well, I say in youths, right, but it's people of all ages, same adult teaching, right, all learning and more fear in doing it.
1:22:19
Speaker 2: I'm very reluctant to do.
1:22:20
Speaker 2: It was really because I feel like listen, I don't know much about it.
1:22:23
Speaker 2: I figure now this as I go along, I try to learn this as I go, I try to figure out how to like.
1:22:30
Speaker 2: I tell them when first time I get a mixing board and decided I want to do a podcast, I take more four hours just to figure out how to work the mixer.
1:22:36
Speaker 2: Then they tell me how to come on YouTube and take me along.
1:22:40
Speaker 2: Or let me see how much episodes I have where it's auto focus.
1:22:42
Speaker 2: I hope this one not auto focus, but I don't know how to use the camera very well.
1:22:47
Speaker 2: Plenty people reach out to man help, more than plenty people Like every now and again.
1:22:50
Speaker 2: So the boy now don't tell me, listen, try this, try that.
1:22:53
Speaker 2: Or my guy from affordable import to tell me, try this, try background.
1:22:58
Speaker 2: You know, I mean you know a lot of people reach out and help man say well, all right, listen, do this, do this differently.
1:23:03
Speaker 2: And I learn as I go along because most of my learning has come from a formal education system.
1:23:09
Speaker 2: Sometimes I underestimate how much I've learned in an unstructured way to be able to do this.
1:23:13
Speaker 2: Because, to tell you the truth, if you want to start a podcast tomorrow, I can help you, I can help you save money, I can help you with where to go and, as I told you, I'll be fine.
1:23:22
Speaker 2: A few episodes like I do produce a few podcasts for people now where I could get their episode out and take the work away from them, but when Nigel's, I'm going to come and teach it.
1:23:30
Speaker 2: I kind of off from the school where to teach something you have to have a master's degree in it in my mind.
1:23:36
Speaker 2: So I always hesitant and Nigel tell my boy people want to.
1:23:40
Speaker 2: You know the calm using my and Nigel, and so we'll tell chest or some brand new teachers it was chest, or from CNC tree right, the students come there to do TV and they say they get a lot of traction with students when they say podcasting is part of the, the learning.
1:23:55
Speaker 2: So why Chester is always introduced me as the number one podcasting.
1:24:00
Speaker 2: He kind of is like oh Lord, I don't know and I'm not sure if I could give these people anything and I don't want to waste people time and people money.
1:24:07
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste my money on my time either by going up there to do something that not worthwhile.
1:24:11
Speaker 2: But this is the second time I did it here recently and I really appreciate the opportunity to do it because it's just like lecturing anything else.
1:24:19
Speaker 2: See young, enterprising people who want to try this.
1:24:23
Speaker 2: You could see they have a love and a passion for it.
1:24:25
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this when you're teaching, a class of broadcasters die people who like to talk it.
1:24:30
Speaker 2: So how to learn how to control people talking and them kind of think I want to talk out the whole two, three hours and they want to talk it out too.
1:24:35
Speaker 2: But it was nice to see people who enthusiastic about it, who was genuinely interested in why I do.
1:24:41
Speaker 2: Why do you know why?
1:24:41
Speaker 2: I was hesitant with a lot too Like why going to tell these youth about all this in a brie, going on, all this in a boring thing I play, that's very, very boring to them.
1:24:48
Speaker 2: But I need to stop saying that because when I go to episodes like there are a few students who recognize me from little clips and things that we do that went viral.
1:24:57
Speaker 2: And when I play clips of it, you'd find that in every class students hold on to a lot of things.
1:25:04
Speaker 2: I say, oh, you get some young person who started listening to it and I didn't know all this calypso, so hopefully one of them listen to the final.
1:25:10
Speaker 2: I was a bomb, bomb master, not just the water lord, but it's like that.
1:25:15
Speaker 2: You know, I have a purpose for why I do this and I could see and hear and feel their purpose and why they want to do it and I could tell them that listen, what you're looking at now is not what I started off as and is not what I want to be either.
1:25:29
Speaker 2: It's still a work in progress.
1:25:30
Speaker 2: I try in this and to be very, very open.
1:25:32
Speaker 2: I learned something from that.
1:25:33
Speaker 2: From one of them students I want to say her name is Candice and I should have recorded we got that happened because I think it's Candice but it's not to see or something I can't remember but what she was trying to tell me and she said it's a few times in class before a grasp.
1:25:48
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, you just had to show up as yourself, it don't matter if you're funny, it don't matter if the podcast, the music good or the thing she say.
1:25:55
Speaker 2: You show up as yourself, the audience going to like you the way you are.
1:25:59
Speaker 2: And I don't want to do that a lot because them times are struggling to record, because this thing with Dana on my mind, I don't be in the mood or any hospital at one point twice a day and you know it's quite.
1:26:09
Speaker 2: I live in Chicago and I say I drive so to go and I'm tired, I can't get done.
1:26:12
Speaker 2: And she was like, boy, just record and talk about where you're feeling, it don't matter what, and a part of why I was hesitant to record was that I'm not reading the papers, I don't know what happened and not current to everything.
1:26:22
Speaker 2: And she's like just talk about how you're feeling about Dana.
1:26:25
Speaker 2: Like she kept saying it and I was like you know, I think you're right, because I was surprised at the response.
1:26:32
Speaker 2: I recorded that last episode, really, because I've like, I tell you, nina can't come up in the dream and I was like, okay, let me do this.
1:26:37
Speaker 2: And I did, but it was very, very, very hard to do that.
1:26:42
Speaker 2: That was hard to do, that was hard to talk about and I didn't know how hard it would be.
1:26:47
Speaker 2: I was planning to record that episode like a few times, and eventually I was feeling good and I said let me go for it.
1:26:52
Speaker 2: And then it was emotional.
1:26:53
Speaker 2: So she's like boy, listen, and this is what I teach any class.
1:26:58
Speaker 2: But she's teaching me completely because she's like listen, you have to suffer with your audience.
1:27:02
Speaker 2: You have all the ups with your audience and have all the dogs with them to the there for you.
1:27:06
Speaker 2: And that's something that I saw over the course of the weeks, where people was reaching out just to see how it going, how you going.
1:27:13
Speaker 2: You know, I mean people, people was very, very gracious to do that all the time, to tell me that, listen, we missing you and we here whenever you come back.
1:27:20
Speaker 2: We good One man to look at, cassius is all that he says.
1:27:25
Speaker 2: Just give you one for the Christmas.
1:27:27
Speaker 2: I was like no, cassius, I will do better than that.
1:27:29
Speaker 2: It's so bad.
1:27:30
Speaker 2: I'll come back and I will get back in a group, but I appreciated that them.
1:27:34
Speaker 2: Things go a long way to know that you know people there for you in a way, and it reminded me.
1:27:40
Speaker 2: I mean I lectured about 10 years now.
1:27:42
Speaker 2: One of the things I always tell students is that I learn more from these classrooms than you will ever learn.
1:27:48
Speaker 2: I only here to teach you economy, marketing or whatever the thing is.
1:27:53
Speaker 2: I say, but from you, from your feedback, from your question, I get the whole life and I get into here from a hundred people in some classes or 40 people in a room like that, but my Nigel and them 10 very energetic young people who looking at me when I watch the way they're watching me as somebody who accomplish something is like I don't know.
1:28:12
Speaker 2: I still try to figure this thing out, but the point I'm making.
1:28:15
Speaker 2: Going back to the school system, is that the school system misses some of that, I think.
1:28:20
Speaker 2: I think the teachers and them under pressure and they're not any best environment sometimes and maybe they're not well treated and underpaid and underappreciated by society.
1:28:30
Speaker 2: And they also know that they work in a system that is created, to use Noguera's terms, they really try and make up, they really trying to make passive obedience pupils designed to go into a capitalist system to work for people, and maybe that's not where teachers passion lies.
1:28:51
Speaker 2: So they, frustrated by the curriculum too, don't ever feel like these teachers happy with the curriculum or they see in students that not going to fit into this mold and they had to be demoted.
1:29:04
Speaker 2: They had to move them from all the class or get them to stop talking so that everybody else can think about every report book I had said I wanted to talk too much.
1:29:14
Speaker 2: Query's thing was he's talked too much.
1:29:15
Speaker 2: And later on in life I write on every career that is talk and I try to pursue all and I pursue in all the ones I enrich, yet I enrich.
1:29:25
Speaker 2: The lawyer is the one I enrich yet.
1:29:27
Speaker 2: But again to lecture, again to do journalism, again to do presentations and work, you know so.
1:29:33
Speaker 2: So they people could fit into all kind of different spaces, like when I watch a football game, for instance, I don't know how good Angus doing school.
1:29:40
Speaker 2: I don't know how good Aubrey David, who to know to be one of the best defenders and captains we had in a long time.
1:29:47
Speaker 2: I don't know how good he doing school and I don't care.
1:29:49
Speaker 2: It does not matter to me how.
1:29:51
Speaker 2: How good you doing school should never be a measure of what your success is.
1:29:55
Speaker 2: It is.
1:29:55
Speaker 2: It is a.
1:29:56
Speaker 2: It is a flawed measure.
1:29:58
Speaker 2: The system is poor, the system designed for 20% of the people to excel at it and 80% of the people to struggle.
1:30:05
Speaker 2: Some part of the 80% will figure it out and do well enough and some gonna be left by the wayside.
1:30:10
Speaker 2: But some of the people could be left by their wayside is Alvin Jones, and then we have nobody to score against his states not saying that he didn't do well in school.
1:30:17
Speaker 2: But I just don't know and I don't care A lot of the people who we see as successful, even by capitalist measures like what kind of drive and how much money you make, and a lot of them have zero education in the system that we're talking about.
1:30:33
Speaker 2: So while I could go and salute again to my aunt, dr Therese A Charles, which I will say as often as I could, find a route to success that was not traditional by any means I don't want to give away her story right, because I want her to come here and talk about it.
1:30:50
Speaker 2: And for Pudge here, I want to come and talk about his story as well, which we'll do.
1:30:54
Speaker 2: But when you hear her talk about her path to being a PhD, that not traditional at all.
1:31:00
Speaker 2: If it's for me, I had to spend 3 years in undergrad, probably a year for thesis or something.
1:31:05
Speaker 2: Then I'd have spent 2 or 3 years again in Masters and then I'd do a PhD.
1:31:09
Speaker 2: It could take me 6, 7, 8 years to ever get a PhD and then I would be seen by some people as successful in this academic world.
1:31:18
Speaker 2: But when you look at over the last few weeks I was able to see Allison Heinz, collector PhD from UEE, and Beris Hammond, collector PhD from UEE.
1:31:31
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how well they did in school and it does not matter, because even by capitalist measures like how much money and how much car and how much travel, all those things they way more successful than the average academic and they we can define our lives by things they have done.
1:31:50
Speaker 2: Like I remember in UEE I used to play Sizzler Solid, as a Rock can't keep a good man down.
1:31:58
Speaker 2: I used to play that all the time before every exam.
1:32:00
Speaker 2: I don't know well.
1:32:01
Speaker 2: Sizzler is a bad example because I think he has some kind of masters degree in architecture or something.
1:32:05
Speaker 2: But you get the point I make it.
1:32:06
Speaker 2: It would not have mattered if he studied and do well in school and went through his first choice and all these kind of foolishness.
1:32:11
Speaker 2: It is inconsequential because success had to be defined by the person you pursue in it and you, successful as it is Lara Tarnishing his legacy by being a coach in IPL, unsuccessful, and I keep saying, like, suppose that's what Lara wants to do.
1:32:35
Speaker 2: Lara has nothing to prove to anybody to be a success.
1:32:38
Speaker 2: He is by success, by any measure you could possibly imagine.
1:32:42
Speaker 2: So then why would we use the one little part of his life where he might not have achieved massive success that he would achieve, being a double record holder and one of the best batsmen in the world?
1:32:55
Speaker 2: How you could take one little narrow part, the shortest stint he have, which still is incomplete?
1:33:03
Speaker 2: He's not where he needs to be in coaching yet and he knows that.
1:33:07
Speaker 2: How do we use those little things to say that somebody tarnishing the legacy is equivalent to saying somebody who got expelled from school or failed common entrance.
1:33:16
Speaker 2: You could use that to define a person whole life.
1:33:19
Speaker 2: How bears happen doing common entrance and why would it matter when you could say you're gonna talk, you're gonna talk, you're gonna talk.
1:33:27
Speaker 2: They're gonna say a lot of things about us when you could do that and you know where you was when you was listening to that.
1:33:34
Speaker 2: Doesn't worry what the people say when they see me with you.
1:33:40
Speaker 2: You remember when he was when them kind of song played.
1:33:45
Speaker 2: You can't do people that.
1:33:47
Speaker 2: You can't pigeonhole people into education system that designed for most people to fail and then define them by it for the rest of your life.
1:33:55
Speaker 2: It don't make sense and it does not work.
1:33:58
Speaker 2: Again, I wanna say a quick minute to salute to Denzel Streets who was picking up a leading role at MIT.
1:34:04
Speaker 2: All remember that discussion.
1:34:05
Speaker 2: They say move on, youth, because again, some of the things that we do.
1:34:09
Speaker 2: I saw something near they saying that the number one factor for how wealthy somebody is going to be, it had to do with what school it went, what, what kind of job you have, what kind of qualifications you get, how you invest.
1:34:25
Speaker 2: None of that, you know, is the number one factor for how wealthy somebody would be is your parents wealth.
1:34:31
Speaker 2: So when I see Denzel Streets grow up and move, I tell me a story about his parents wealth.
1:34:37
Speaker 2: But he is able to go into MIT and be a dean for one of the most important areas that the school is heading into.
1:34:43
Speaker 2: I like stories like that.
1:34:44
Speaker 2: I like a comeback story like Angus Eve.
1:34:47
Speaker 2: You know, I mean a dong, two nil and a score tree, or they hate you and you come and you get some success out of nothing.
1:34:52
Speaker 2: I think we need to sometimes give people enough latitude to let these stories unveil and let we really find what success is.
1:35:02
Speaker 2: Salute again, salute.
1:35:04
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this in passing at all.
1:35:06
Speaker 2: Ever salute to the great Alison Hines and the great Barry Salmon for being to honor graduate PhDs from the.
1:35:15
Speaker 2: Let me make sure I say this right, because when I say this about Lord Nelson, I was wrong like hell.
1:35:20
Speaker 2: This is from Alison Hines and I've done it wrong already.
1:35:23
Speaker 2: Forever grateful.
1:35:24
Speaker 2: Reposed from UE Cable campus.
1:35:26
Speaker 2: Mrs Alison Hines Walcott, who has conferred the degree of Doctor of Letters that deal it honoris causa addresses the company.
1:35:36
Speaker 2: Alison is a vital element to the Caribbean music scene and a major force in the eruption of the innovative urban influence Caribbean based music.
1:35:45
Speaker 2: Similar to artists such as fellow Bayesian pop star Rhianna, sean Paul and Shaggy, alison has made an impact on music worldwide and has left an indelible mark on the Caribbean music scene.
1:36:01
Speaker 2: When Alison is not performing, she takes time to work as an advocate for such causes such as AIDS awareness, women's rights, diabetes cancer foundations, as well as organizations for disabled and physically challenged.
1:36:14
Speaker 2: You can be that reading from the Jamaica Observer Kingston.
1:36:20
Speaker 2: Jamaica reggae icon bears Hammond will be conferred with the honorary Doctor of Letters by the?
1:36:25
Speaker 2: U by the University of the Westinies at Monaco campus at an annual graduation ceremony on Saturday November 4th.
1:36:33
Speaker 2: He will be among four other recipients to receive honorary degrees during the University's four graduation ceremonies which are scheduled to take place over two days, november 3rd and November 4th.
1:36:44
Speaker 2: They went on to talk about some other people are sure they did great right.
1:36:47
Speaker 2: I just hit the top of bears Hammond, right.
1:36:50
Speaker 2: So bears conferred his deal and, as a doctor, one of the things that I wish you we would do right is because I feel so good when I see Lord Nelson bestowed the same deal it's on, or Alison Heinz same with bears Hammond, that it would be great if they could do a sort of joint campus ceremony so you have the people who graduate everywhere, right.
1:37:12
Speaker 2: But when we have global superstars like Nello or bears Hammond, it would be great if we could bring all of them together so that we have a ceremony for the deal it that moves island to island.
1:37:24
Speaker 2: You know, I mean that would be such a nice thing where we could celebrate them in a bigger way and let them feel the love throughout the region, so that it doesn't just it's not just in Barbados for Bay Jons or in Jamaica for Jamaica.
1:37:37
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
1:37:38
Speaker 2: Because we supposed to be a regional body.
1:37:40
Speaker 2: So when you give, it's almost like if you, we send Augustine couldn't give bears Hammond or a deal it.
1:37:47
Speaker 2: If you understand where, coming from the you we send, augustine should be able to do it as well.
1:37:51
Speaker 2: So maybe if there's some joint ceremony that brings all the deal it people together, because imagine having a ceremony where you had Jetsamaru, lord Nelson, bears, hammond, alison, heinz, all them in one way or another, and hopefully, hopefully, you feel that way, you feel that way, you feel that way, I like that and I like.
1:38:09
Speaker 2: I like the idea of celebrating, of celebrating greatness.
1:38:13
Speaker 2: I watch it in time, right.
1:38:16
Speaker 2: There are a few things I want to talk about and listen just like.
1:38:20
Speaker 2: Just like in class, when I miss a class always had a makeup session.
1:38:27
Speaker 2: I do some makeup podcast, right.
1:38:29
Speaker 2: But I just want to talk about one thing before the express the express.
1:38:36
Speaker 2: The express, I know, I know when zone, I know, and only the express right.
1:38:41
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what is when zone, the express, but yesterday was in international men's day, right, which, to tell you the truth, as men, I don't know if we care too much night, I'm not sure.
1:38:55
Speaker 2: Men only care about international men's day.
1:38:57
Speaker 2: We, I don't know if we care about these things all that much.
1:38:59
Speaker 2: You know, I was listening to Bill Bain and show and he said boy, listen, his role now in this also is to be agreeable.
1:39:05
Speaker 2: He just want to be agreeable with people.
1:39:08
Speaker 2: So as a man you ain't paying up much of a resistance and he wise words a bear is Hammond, you just going along with it.
1:39:14
Speaker 2: And I mean you know at least the old school men, if you want to call us that.
1:39:18
Speaker 2: You kind of know you have a roller, protector and provider for your family, and I suppose it's on whether whether there's gratitude that comes with that or you feel underappreciated, I don't know if people care, I don't know.
1:39:35
Speaker 2: I don't know if men cared how much, to be fair, you know.
1:39:38
Speaker 2: I mean it's like what, what?
1:39:39
Speaker 2: Who studied that?
1:39:42
Speaker 2: Whereas with woman, if you miss them on our mother's day or any of the days made to celebrate them, the household could get dark.
1:39:49
Speaker 2: Right, I don't deserve it so many.
1:39:51
Speaker 2: So everything they could get out of this life and in this life for everything that they contributed to this life, right, but I'm international men's day, fine, either here or there.
1:40:01
Speaker 2: Mean expecting nobody to show up for me, no gift, none of them kind of things are not saying that if those things will happen it would mean nice or it would be received.
1:40:09
Speaker 2: But men have a kind of way.
1:40:10
Speaker 2: I know if I talking for all men, but we have a kind of way that we don't want to.
1:40:13
Speaker 2: We don't want to see him as if we.
1:40:16
Speaker 2: I find express wins are a little far in that, rather than just celebrate us or ignore the day completely, which most of us would have preferred.
1:40:34
Speaker 2: I got a reason for something the other day that said men on their birdie just like to stay home and do nothing because he is feeling burden of their responsibility all the time and planning and paying for this, or financially, whatever the burdens are that you have in your household he is feeling that.
1:40:48
Speaker 2: So even when they say let me do a trip for the birdie, I feel like okay, it's not that I don't want to do the trip, it's just that the trip is at cost which, whether the woman pay for it or not, you just want to pay for it in the end.
1:40:59
Speaker 2: You know your whole soul is work but you got to pay for that in the end and we are also going to do some logistics and the planning and I leave home and now I, when I drive and I consume from a family and there's a lot of there's a lot that goes with that.
1:41:12
Speaker 2: So sometimes when men tell you for their birdie they just want to stay home and do nothing, is because it's almost like for that day we want to have no responsibilities or no, nothing to do or nothing to plan or nothing to pay for anything like that.
1:41:24
Speaker 2: So it seems strange.
1:41:26
Speaker 2: It just seems strange to me too, because I just saw it in an article last week and I was asked to send people that because when I said I don't want to do nothing for them but it's, but you should do this and you should do that, and then when they do it for me and they're like he was looking so stressed out, he wasn't looking like and I was like, because today's a working day at work, I can't be just down the islands fighting out there, just don't do something, don't feel right.
1:41:45
Speaker 2: But again, it's not that I do appreciate it, but I find express colleges leave it alone or go in the next direction, because, if you don't know, the express printed or put this in their papers and in the only social media page.
1:41:59
Speaker 2: The big question on international men's day, with a picture of international men's day with a whole set of cartoon figures of international men we ought to put it like that and the question is, how have men lived up to their responsibilities?
1:42:13
Speaker 2: Is like what's so weird?
1:42:14
Speaker 2: What happened?
1:42:15
Speaker 2: What happened?
1:42:16
Speaker 2: I don't understand why it couldn't be just a celebratory message, but they are just say happy international men's day.
1:42:22
Speaker 2: Nobody would have paid attention to that at all.
1:42:24
Speaker 2: But, um, gratefully, women take a ton behind the express on this.
1:42:33
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes we wait in front of want to say something good about man and because all is all, man is dog and man is this and man is that, is all it's like.
1:42:40
Speaker 2: Okay, so we, we take up this role voluntarily of protector and provider and planner and all these different things that we do it for the household and we mean accent for nothing in return.
1:42:51
Speaker 2: But the least you could do is don't be calling me dog all the time.
1:42:54
Speaker 2: It's a dog and man is dog and all other man is.
1:42:56
Speaker 2: We don't like to hear that.
1:42:57
Speaker 2: To be honest.
1:42:58
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that one man is dog and who don't want to hear that's all the time.
1:43:02
Speaker 2: But the woman, the woman, step up in a big way.
1:43:04
Speaker 2: The woman was all up and express comments.
1:43:09
Speaker 2: Christian say this is stupid, irresponsible and ignorant and it says about, says a lot about you.
1:43:13
Speaker 2: Thank you to all the men who continue to stand as men and do what you know is right, the men who love, protect, respect and take care of themselves and their families.
1:43:22
Speaker 2: I want to let you know that your love respected, admired, appreciated and certainly needed.
1:43:26
Speaker 2: Thank you, men.
1:43:27
Speaker 2: Happy international men's day.
1:43:28
Speaker 2: I feel good.
1:43:29
Speaker 2: No, christian name is Christian.
1:43:32
Speaker 2: Sweet Trinidad bling Thompson, which makes tells me something about to be a street man.
1:43:37
Speaker 2: You know I mean, but the comments was much like that they said.
1:43:40
Speaker 2: Just a reminder to men don't let the word fool you into believing that you're not valued and appreciated unless you make a certain amount of money or have high quality things.
1:43:48
Speaker 2: You are loved, you are valued and you are appreciated regardless.
1:43:51
Speaker 2: Nice from Akilah Sukhansing appreciated Sherry Welsh say on the day we should be educating the nation and on the fact that it is a son of our soil, professor Jeremy Luxing, who founded this day.
1:44:05
Speaker 2: It was a female activist who got it recognized as a global celebration in honor of men to show appreciation for the sacrifices and the value added to society and the world.
1:44:14
Speaker 2: Men are great men.
1:44:15
Speaker 2: We are grateful for your inputs in our lives.
1:44:17
Speaker 2: You are valued and appreciate.
1:44:18
Speaker 2: I want to cry.
1:44:19
Speaker 2: You are valued and appreciated.
1:44:21
Speaker 2: As a reminder, men, you were raised by women and she laughs.
1:44:24
Speaker 2: She had to give you a job that I sure you will, but you know Jeremy Luxing had anything to do with this and as a trinidad like why express take this angle?
1:44:32
Speaker 2: And people say it had to be a very bitter woman who start this article in the first place with a question like that.
1:44:38
Speaker 2: So I want to tell all you on international men's day, on behalf of all men and the men of the term.
1:44:44
Speaker 2: We call this again the Corey Shepherd podcast.
1:44:46
Speaker 2: I forget the name.
1:44:46
Speaker 2: We appreciate all you for defending we here because, to tell you the truth, right, most of the comments here is woman.
1:44:53
Speaker 2: There are few men who responded, but most of the comments is woman and it just goes to show you that men don't care.
1:45:00
Speaker 2: I would have never see this article.
1:45:01
Speaker 2: I would have never read the caption.
1:45:03
Speaker 2: All I see, is international men's day.
1:45:04
Speaker 2: I would have assumed they had a happy day and I would have moved on in my life.
1:45:07
Speaker 2: We really don't care about none of these things, but it feel good to for the woman to step up in this way and say that.
1:45:14
Speaker 2: You know, I mean they, like all the express, come at men, because sometimes the messages that men create is like a kind of heavy load and you have a big burden on your back right.
1:45:24
Speaker 2: And while you had this big burden on your back, somebody commented all these dog, all you and all your friends.
1:45:30
Speaker 2: Like I'm going alright, alright, alright, alright, alright with dog.
1:45:33
Speaker 2: Okay, but give me a easier level, put on this first, because I have for her to go with this and don't worry, you will be safe and you will be taken care of and you will be protected.
1:45:41
Speaker 2: Another thing that I want to say, in spite of all the crime and everything that happened in the country, and not talk about that article yesterday is that one of the ways we've evolved in life is that when we get to things like mother's day or woman's day and so on, we tend to come here and say all mothers and all women, we love you all and appreciate you all.
1:46:03
Speaker 2: I think that if we go in for this international men's day and all they really care about it, stop qualifying it, stop saying, well, the men who this pay the bill.
1:46:13
Speaker 2: Now, they didn't say that.
1:46:14
Speaker 2: But the men who is protect and protect and know the role of a real man.
1:46:17
Speaker 2: Stop saying all that.
1:46:18
Speaker 2: Just say happy international day to all men.
1:46:22
Speaker 2: Because when we say happy women's day or happy mothers day to all mothers, we know it, how mothers who might be fit or deserve it, whatever you want to label, you want to put on it, but we want to celebrate all mothers at this time, on this day.
1:46:36
Speaker 2: We celebrate in all of you all, because it have nobody who do all evil and do everything wickedness.
1:46:42
Speaker 2: It have nobody like that.
1:46:43
Speaker 2: All the who you're calling bad mother and the this and the that they had moments with their child they was loving at some point somebody love them and them love somebody.
1:46:51
Speaker 2: So just say all women, happy mothers day to all the mothers.
1:46:55
Speaker 2: So when it comes to men's day and fathers day, and think, do start with the dead beat that thing we know it had them.
1:47:00
Speaker 2: Do start with the men and them who is a man.
1:47:02
Speaker 2: Do start that just say happy fathers day to all men.
1:47:06
Speaker 2: You don't know which one of them men who abusive and wicked and struggling with addiction, you don't know which one of them could change based on that little message that say boy, we love you and we appreciate you.
1:47:19
Speaker 2: We love you and we appreciate you regardless.
1:47:22
Speaker 2: You don't know how that little spark could make a man say better, don't be cheated more.
1:47:27
Speaker 2: You know I mean, but hey, listen, I coming out ahead, I work to go and do.
1:47:33
Speaker 2: I'm a little brother by the name of Stefan.
1:47:34
Speaker 2: This man don't make joking, this man is a very hard task master and a hard pay master and he done message me here and I'll go back to work.
1:47:40
Speaker 2: And I always have a deadline every day now to go and see my sister for the only visit and I will tell her.
1:47:47
Speaker 2: I always tell her.
1:47:48
Speaker 2: So listen, I do a episode.
1:47:50
Speaker 2: I hear you say something and plenty people reach out and send love.
1:47:53
Speaker 2: The more love you send is the more.
1:47:55
Speaker 2: I will continue to tell her and I just like, just like.
1:47:58
Speaker 2: I say nobody men, I never show what message will get through today, not to keep fighting, but I give her all the messages I could give and I just let her share in this.
1:48:05
Speaker 2: With all this right, I've a new life goal.
1:48:09
Speaker 2: I've a new life goal.
1:48:10
Speaker 2: I just share in this one only before I go to play, because I played that little one, brigo.
1:48:14
Speaker 2: I just like Brigo a lot and I just want to leave only with some Brigo in this episode.
1:48:18
Speaker 2: But one of my new life goals is to make sure that every interaction I have with somebody I could leave them on a positive note.
1:48:26
Speaker 2: So I'll leave it on a positive note with a few of my favorite Brigos.
1:49:07
Speaker 3: Thank you.
1:49:07
Speaker 3: To do the next dance.
1:49:25
Speaker 3: We love to do the elbow dance, to do the hand dance.
1:49:33
Speaker 3: We come to show the world how to break, to defeat the tight soles.
1:49:38
Speaker 3: Join the lettuce team To do the next dance.
1:49:49
Speaker 3: We love to do the elbow dance, to do the hand dance.
1:49:53
Speaker 3: We come to show the world how to break, to defeat the tight soles.
1:49:57
Speaker 3: Join the lettuce team.
1:49:59
Speaker 3: Oh young, oh young.
1:50:08
Speaker 3: They brought dancers from London.
1:50:20
Speaker 3: They said they were hardest to move the dancers they brought to compete against.
1:50:29
Speaker 3: They said they had to watch quick and admire quick.
1:50:31
Speaker 3: We love to do the back dance.
1:50:35
Speaker 3: We love to do the shoulder dance.
1:50:40
Speaker 3: We love to do the hand dance.
1:50:43
Speaker 3: We come to show the world how to break, to defeat the tight soles.
1:50:51
Speaker 3: Join the lettuce team.
1:50:52
Speaker 3: Oh young, oh young.
1:50:55
Speaker 3: They brought the leg and up, the elbow leg and up and the leg and up.
1:51:03
Speaker 3: We come to show the world how to break, to defeat the tight soles.
1:51:08
Speaker 3: Join the lettuce team.
1:51:10
Speaker 3: Oh young, oh young.
1:51:31
Speaker 2: Break, break, break, break.
1:51:36
Speaker 2: I could leave you with one of the less popular ones, ones that I just find sweet.
1:52:16
Speaker 3: I will never forget.
1:52:17
Speaker 3: Long ago no, just before I leave this country People used to live here like one for money.
1:52:27
Speaker 3: Long time.
1:52:27
Speaker 3: Easy for us again.
1:52:28
Speaker 3: Bad neighbors used to attend to you.
1:52:36
Speaker 3: They used to bring you some half point phone.
1:52:40
Speaker 3: They used to bring them to medicine too.
1:52:44
Speaker 3: People do this to live.
1:52:45
Speaker 3: So Come on, come on, tell Brie go.
1:52:51
Speaker 3: I want to know, want to know, want to know Do you need to do this to live?
1:52:58
Speaker 3: So Long ago?
1:53:04
Speaker 3: Mama, mama, let me tell you more about long ago, when I was a little fella, I got this from a stranger.
1:53:18
Speaker 3: A stranger caught a whip on me Me for stealing a gold chain.
1:53:28
Speaker 3: When I go home and I tell mama Me you know me.
1:53:34
Speaker 3: Mama, beat me again.
1:53:36
Speaker 3: Oh, you're your way.
1:53:37
Speaker 3: People do this to live.
1:53:40
Speaker 3: So People do this to live.
1:53:42
Speaker 3: So I want to know, want to know, want to know Do you need to do this to live?
1:53:55
Speaker 3: So Long ago?
1:53:58
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about long ago.
1:54:00
Speaker 3: Long time when we go out to party, we used to be well dressed and looking tight.
1:54:09
Speaker 3: Long time.
1:54:13
Speaker 3: If you marry a woman, you're hard to sing.
1:54:17
Speaker 3: She both fall out tune.
1:54:18
Speaker 3: Then take she on her little eye On her dream or sunny moon.
1:54:30
Speaker 3: People do this to live.
1:54:31
Speaker 3: So People do this to live.
1:54:33
Speaker 3: So I want to know, want to know, want to know Do you need to do this to live so Long ago?
1:54:50
Speaker 3: Let me tell you more about long ago House and land here in this country.
1:54:57
Speaker 3: Never use this to cause no big Long time.
1:55:04
Speaker 3: If you want a room to rent and Lord used to have you a key For you to choose your own apartment, men, before they land, not receive money.
1:55:18
Speaker 3: People do this to live.
1:55:22
Speaker 3: So I want to know, want to know, want to know Do you need to do this to live so Long ago?
1:55:33
Speaker 3: I'm always thinking about long ago.
1:55:35
Speaker 3: Long ago, I'm always thinking about long ago.
1:55:52
Speaker 3: I will never forget.
1:56:00
Speaker 3: Long ago.
1:56:01
Speaker 3: I will never forget.
1:56:11
Speaker 3: Long ago.
1:56:13
Speaker 3: I will never forget.
1:56:14
Speaker 3: Long ago, I will never forget long ago.
1:56:36
Speaker 2: Mama Popo might be my favorite brigo, but I live in here with this one.
1:56:40
Speaker 2: This might be everybody else's favorite.
1:57:08
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:57:08
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:57:22
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:57:27
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:57:46
Speaker 2: I'm not a man.
1:57:47
Speaker 2: I'm not a man.
1:58:04
Speaker 3: Let me go.
1:58:04
Speaker 3: She came in on breakfast Last week Saturday.
1:58:22
Speaker 2: I got so delirious.
1:58:24
Speaker 3: I throw it away.
1:58:25
Speaker 3: I don't.
1:58:29
Speaker 2: I'm not a man.
1:58:38
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:58:39
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:58:48
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
1:59:05
Speaker 3: Let me go.
1:59:11
Speaker 3: I'm not a man, I'm not a man.
1:59:51
Speaker 3: I'm not a man.
2:00:12
Speaker 4: I'm not a man.
2:00:13
Speaker 4: I'm not a man.
2:00:29
Speaker 5: I'm not a man.
2:00:38
Speaker 2: Let me go.