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- 0:00This is thoughts from the metal cabin, where only one opinion
- 0:04matters, and it's not yours. We're tuned now for Australia's
- 0:10men's football team. The soccer ruse it's been a
- 0:14disastrous few months winning. Only one of their last seven
- 0:17qualifying matches for the World Cup this year.
- 0:21And as a result failed to make automatic qualification for this
- 0:25year's walk up now, they face an uncertain to knockout games
- 0:29against good opposition. In order to be in Qatar later
- 0:33this year, But is it a matter of poor planning and response over
- 0:38recent times with covid-19, possibly as a reasonable excuse
- 0:42for the downturn or has this been a long-term downfall one
- 0:47that has been seen to be coming? But the Hope was that it
- 0:51wouldn't eventuate look to be honest.
- 0:54I'm a novice when it comes to the detailed ins and outs of
- 0:57soccer and its repercussions, but it doesn't take a genius to
- 1:01see. Just where on the surface at
- 1:04least, The sport in Australia is still falling down.
- 1:08That's today's talking point on this episode of the podcast.
- 1:12Where one person's opinion, can make a difference here on
- 1:17thoughts from the middle cabin. Hi there, and welcome to today's
- 1:58discussion. So Australia have finished their
- 2:03qualification period for this year's World Cup.
- 2:08And to say that it's been anything, but a disaster, I
- 2:11think would be underrated. So the last seven games
- 2:17Australia has failed to win more than one of those games.
- 2:22So they won their first three games in their group.
- 2:26They then lost to Japan. They drew with Saudi Arabia
- 2:30nil-nil which left them in third spot there after that first
- 2:34round. So they had to find some wings
- 2:36in the second part in the And of the hi Mona.
- 2:39Why E-Series, they drew 1-1 with China?
- 2:43They defeated Vietnam for nil, hooray, and then Drew 2-2 with
- 2:48Oman. And this week, they've lost to
- 2:51kneel to Japan and then one kneel to Saudi Arabia again.
- 2:56So they finished third in their group of the Asian
- 3:01qualification. So, now, to make the World Cup,
- 3:06they have to boot the United Arab Emirates.
- 3:08It's in a one-off game on June 7, the winner of that game has
- 3:13to play Peru to decide on the final spot for the World Cup
- 3:17finals. And what's our record like
- 3:20against Peru? Well, they are really a group at
- 3:22the last World Cup in Russia, in 2018 and we lost to nil.
- 3:30It's an interesting thing because soccer in Australia is
- 3:33still we're still all casual viewers of soccer.
- 3:36I think in the long run and we all want to see Australia.
- 3:40Make the walk up, I want to see them play in the World Cup and
- 3:42hopefully progress, but we've qualified for all the World Cup
- 3:47finals since that breakthrough in 2006, when Australia's
- 3:52probably greatest ever team was able to make the quarterfinals.
- 3:58Was it? Or the Of 16 at least them so
- 4:01they did. So we'll it's really been easy
- 4:05and even though we've made those playoffs we haven't really ever
- 4:11extended ourselves beyond that and it always seems to be the
- 4:14same for things that seem to crop up every time we get to
- 4:18this point of the campaign and we never seem to be able to find
- 4:23a solution to get beyond that. So one a defense always seems
- 4:29watery Australia had some excellent Defenders over the
- 4:33years, they really have, but it always appears that when we get
- 4:37to the big matches. They sometimes seem to get in
- 4:40each other's way or they seem to be out of position.
- 4:44And they just allow what seemed to be easy.
- 4:49Goal scored against them in the big games.
- 4:52That's probably unfair and an over simplification of it.
- 4:55But other teams These seem to be able to find a way to get
- 4:58through our defense. Now, it's not the goalkeepers
- 5:03fault because I mean, we've had two of the best since 2006 who
- 5:08have more often than not being Our Saviors in these big games.
- 5:12And originally it was Mark schwarzer, who was just an
- 5:15absolutely brilliant goalkeeper and then in recent times it's
- 5:19been Matt Ryan who has played in Premier League in England as
- 5:24well and he's been Rific. So the goalkeepers aren't
- 5:28necessarily to blame but a defense just seems to be able to
- 5:32be a bit leaky. To Air Attack is never good
- 5:39enough to score enough goals, to win enough games ever.
- 5:45Now we had Tim Cahill up the front for so long, who scored
- 5:48most of our goals, whenever he was playing.
- 5:51And we didn't be seen to be able to find anybody else who could
- 5:55come in and help him out, and help the load and score goals as
- 5:58well. And since Tim's retired, we are
- 6:03lacking a genuine world-class striker Ryker with enough
- 6:07quality bull. Put through to him by a Midfield
- 6:11to produce enough. Good finishing to produce enough
- 6:13goals to win these big games. I mean it's as tough as it is on
- 6:20a defense to say that they need to be able to stop other team
- 6:23scoring. If we can't score goals, we
- 6:26can't win games, it's as simple as that.
- 6:29And apart from Tim. Hi Tim Cahill.
- 6:31In the last decade. We just haven't had enough
- 6:35people up front able to be scoring enough goals for us to
- 6:39win games. Now, that possibly comes back,
- 6:43two point three and point three is finding the right manager who
- 6:48then Has the right plan to help us, not only make the World Cup
- 6:53but then be a force at a World Cup or an Asian cup.
- 6:58So we started off with Ozzy Gus old.
- 7:00Good old Gus hiddink, who was our manager back in 2006 when we
- 7:05finally break through and made the World Cup finals, Now,
- 7:09following Goose, we had Pim verbeek who was our manager,
- 7:15coach. Whatever you want to call it in
- 7:16Australia, who got us to the 2010 World Cup finals, and they
- 7:21were in South Africa. And again, our plans seemed not
- 7:29in line with the way other teams were playing in that World Cup.
- 7:34Then we had whole goal seek who was our next manager, who didn't
- 7:38even get us to the next World Cup.
- 7:41We started getting our asses handed to a six nil by other
- 7:43teams. Just before that woke up and he
- 7:46was sacked and then we had engine postecoglou, who come in?
- 7:50Who was it? Australian who'd been a very
- 7:52successful straining coach. And he took us through to the
- 7:562014 World Cup. Where again we were unable to
- 8:00win a game but we scared the crap out of the Netherlands and
- 8:04Really seem to stick it up to them.
- 8:06And then we of course won the Asian cup, the next year.
- 8:11But before the next World Cup, the one that he'd been booked to
- 8:14take us to in 2018 in Russia, he was shown the door because our
- 8:18qualification period hadn't been good enough.
- 8:21And then Bert van marwijk came in and he changed the way and
- 8:27had been doing it and should be having throughout the back and
- 8:30and Burt brought in for and we never seem to get out of first
- 8:34gear in that Whole World Cup in 2018.
- 8:36We just sitting around in the Midfield not scoring and
- 8:40concerning enough that we keep losing these games and since
- 8:44then we've had gray Model, come in another one, another strength
- 8:46coaches had a lot of success at domestic level and now of
- 8:50course, After the last week, his head's on The Chopping Block.
- 8:57So is it the plains of these managers that are not allowing
- 9:02us to do our best in World Cups? Or is there a different reason?
- 9:07Point for are highly is still not becoming the breeding ground
- 9:12and the excellent competition. It needs to be for Australian
- 9:16football to go forward. To be honest at the moment, it
- 9:19feels as though football is going backwards in Australia.
- 9:21Again now again I haven't been in the last two years.
- 9:26Probably in the covid period, I haven't paid as much attention
- 9:29to the a-league as I probably did before that.
- 9:31And the fact that it's changing stations and free-to-air is not
- 9:36really their Available is part of that but it just feels like
- 9:41all the excitement that we used to have about Australia, making
- 9:45the walk up and the a-league starting and the quality of
- 9:48teams and players. We had in the a-league that
- 9:50seems to be going backwards. I could be wrong, but that's
- 9:54just my feeling. So, what's the answer?
- 9:58I don't know. I'm no expert.
- 10:02Look, I think we need to take out of the equation making this
- 10:08walk up. Now, if we make this world cup,
- 10:11that's fantastic. If we can win the next two games
- 10:13and make the World Cup finals, that's brilliant.
- 10:16But there needs to be some tough decisions made as to, where
- 10:21Australia needs to improve and how to go about it and that's in
- 10:25all areas, players managers. Competition.
- 10:31Where do we make the world cup or not?
- 10:32These decisions have to be made now, and they have to start
- 10:35being followed through, because we've got the Asian Cup coming
- 10:38up again. And then we've got to start
- 10:40looking thing about four years down the track for the next
- 10:42World Cup. Now, it always seems to be that
- 10:45we are thinking of these things in for you periods, but we
- 10:49absolutely need to improve the standard of the a-league and do
- 10:53something about that. Now I don't know what that is.
- 10:56I really don't but something has to be done about that.
- 11:00We have to and a way to not only improve our players who are
- 11:04coming through but get them playing, hi domestic competition
- 11:08here and overseas to improve their play and then we've got to
- 11:12find a manager who not only gets on with the players gets on with
- 11:18the administrators gets on with the Australian public, but also
- 11:24has a decent bloody plan for how teams are going to play.
- 11:30So that we Just sit in the Midfield and not be in have our
- 11:36destiny in our own hands and allow teams to dictate to us.
- 11:41I know you've got to have good players to play attacking
- 11:44football and be an attacking team.
- 11:47But Australian teams in all sports have always been
- 11:50attacking. We've always looked to win, not
- 11:54to draw, not to hold that the opposition but to go out there
- 11:58and win. Now, maybe that's against what.
- 12:01The thoughts of international managers are but we need to find
- 12:04someone who wants to take that mindset.
- 12:07And then we need to find the players who are want to take
- 12:09that mindset into the games with them.
- 12:10And we need to mold them into a team that can do that for
- 12:14Australia. Because for me, that's what we
- 12:17have to do if Australian football is going to improve.
- 12:22The simple answer at the moment. In regards to this world cup,
- 12:25isn't it? Just doesn't feel like we have
- 12:27the quality or the depth of player to be serious contenders
- 12:31for any of those tournaments and look at it, if Italy are missing
- 12:35their second consecutive World Cup and what hope does Australia
- 12:39have We need to rebuild for the next Asian cup and find a way to
- 12:44go forward from me. So instead Eyes episode of
- 12:48thoughts for the middle, Kevin? Hopefully it will have given you
- 12:51something to consider and discuss among your own group of
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