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The danger of governing by headlines not principle · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's the tip of the spare in the epic battle to defend the United States of America.
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  The national security hour exposes the wolves in sheep's clothing and the nefarious plots to undermine and destroy U.S.
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  national security.
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  Welcome to the National Security Hour on the America Out Loud Network.
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  I'm your host, Juanquita Cullum.
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  And joining us, a man of mystery, an international political analyst, head of strategic operations for the real America.
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  Vote my friend for many years, Brian Maloney.
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  Brian, there's so much going on.
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  I don't know if we can keep up with it all.
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  Keeping up with it is a full-time job in itself.
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  And the headlines just come fast and furious.
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  And you know, I guess better that than a slow news day, but I'd rather we weren't at war.
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  No kidding.
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  And the other thing, it looks, it appears that the president is taking a bit of a delay on his ultimatum for hormous.
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  What do you make of that?
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  What's the plan behind that?
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  Well, I think that what actually happened this morning at 7 a.m.
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  Eastern time is that Trump hit the panic button on what was probably going to be at least a minor stock market crash and acceleration in oil prices going higher.
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  And you know, I don't know how true this was, but the bottom line is this story emerged that there's going to be a joint deal to run the Strait of Hormous together with the regime, which I don't think anyone on either side believes, but it did do what it was supposed to do, and that has prevented the stock market crash.
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  So bottom line is now Trump's being accused of chickening out, but I don't think it was anything like that.
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  And I think in a day or two, this will be forgotten.
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  The regime immediately uh shot back and said, No, there's nothing of the sort going on.
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  We're not in any talks here.
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  So Trump was trying to stave off financial collapse.
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  Let's explain to people who don't understand strategically the importance of the Strait of Hormuz, because it affects so much.
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  But for the folks that really don't know about that, since something that we learned in school, explain it to them.
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  Well, I mean, the bottom line is such a large percentage of the world's oil flows through that straight, but it comes with a caveat, and that is the United States and Israel, we don't use the Strait of Hormouth ourselves.
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  So people have said, well, then why should we care?
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  Well, when there is a chokehold there when ships are being blocked from passing through, it increases oil prices for everyone globally.
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  It still ends up affecting us in the same way because the global supply is then hit.
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  Uh, and then that affects prices here and everywhere.
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  So, you know, in terms of direct supply, what it hits first is India and China in terms of running out of oil or having to, you know, some of these countries in Asia are already having to ration fuel.
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  The other thing it affects is liquefied national natural gas supplies.
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  So there are other issues like that that affect us as well.
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  So when these supplies tighten, prices go through the roof, and you know, we start paying at the pump almost immediately because I mean, sometimes I'm I'm hate to say it, but some of these gas stations really do take advantage and they raise the price five minutes later.
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  It's like, well, they're the supply they got yesterday or the day before was not at the higher price.
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  They don't need to do that right away.
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  But they do it.
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  So they're taking advantage of us a little bit.
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  Well, I keep wondering when they're gonna bring back the issue of fracking and a lot of the other things that were very popular when George W.
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  Bush had been president, kind of stopped when uh President Obama came in and certainly came to a stalemate when President Biden was in office, but it took forever for a lot of these oil and gas guys to even get leases uh uh to continue and fracking completely came to a halt in places like the state of Texas.
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  You think we're gonna see a resurgence of that, and even our relationship that we had transporting oil from Canada on a pipeline, uh we had to go back to sending it on a train.
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  Where does that stand?
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  Well, I'm surprised Trump isn't talking more about this because I think that one of the most effective ways he has one of his most effective tools to jaw boning oil prices down.
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  And remember, what we've had for the last eight days is Trump jaw owning markets lower, job owning works until it doesn't, and it's been working so far because we're early enough in this war, basically.
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  But a great jaw owning tool would be to say, as you just mentioned, that hey, you know, we we can go back to fracking, we have the uh Alaska oil leases issue.
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  We have, as you say, the pine uh pipelines from Canada, we can open up more drilling in Texas.
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  You know, I want to hear more about drill baby drill in Dakota's, you know.
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  I haven't been hearing drill baby drill, have you?
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  No, not at all.
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  In fact, it's been really quiet.
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  It's strange.
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  It's very strange, and especially when you think about what's going on with Venezuela that had made that uh relationship, that concractual relationship with China because they were so broke, and then China was losing patience with them because they weren't fulfilling their obligations.
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  And the concern I have is not just with China and oil, but when I was in Venezuela and a lot of those countries, who was there?
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  Iran.
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  Right, because you know, uh, it's the same thing in uh Bolivia, the same thing.
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  All those countries were making nicey nice was Iran and Russia and China, and China and China's really the puppet master above above Iran and above Russia, China's the ultimate authority here.
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  Now, Trump has had those oil, you know, what little Venezuela is still exporting, because remember, Venezuela's infrastructure, oil development infrastructure has been rusting away for 20 years under Hugo Chavez and this this you know clog we just got rid of.
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  And yeah, Maduro, and and the bottom line is you know, all the engineers fled the country.
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  Anyone with you know, where the knowledge and the training was, they left and they went to work for Exxon or whatever, you know, they went to work for somebody else.
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  They went to Guyana, where all the oil's being drilled.
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  But what it is uh exporting now is being diverted to the U.S.
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  The problem with Venezuelan crude oil, as we know, is that it's very thick, it's very uh dirty, it's not it's not easy to refine, so it's less appealing oil.
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  Whereas the Iranian, they send it to Houston, they send it to Texas.
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  Texas has the capability to refine that oil, but that's that's problematic on its own right.
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  Well, it comes at greater cost, and when it's more difficult to refine, and as you say, there are less places to refine it.
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  It's very unappealing oil.
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  However, do you still want Venezuela to get its infrastructure back and start exporting a lot more of it here?
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  You bet.
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  Um, and and Guyana is the country where that is really filling the void because massive amounts of oil were discovered off the Guyanese coast about 15 years ago, and the pumping is now underway.
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  And that is that's going to be our savior.
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  Uh, but the thing is the Iranian crude, it's very light, very sweet, and and very easy to refine, and everybody loves it, you know, because of that.
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  When it's easy to refine, it commands a premium, and it's in high demand.
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  So, but the Strait of Hormuz in this closure, you know, it is hitting the oil supplies for China and for India and for Russia, and you know, I mean, it is hitting them.
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  So it's really fascinating to see how all the paces move on the chess board.
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  Um, I just, you know, I I just question Trump's strategy today.
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  You know, I'm a supporter of his.
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  I don't have to.
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  Yeah, okay, I want to make that clear.
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  It doesn't mean I always I call it.
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  But it doesn't mean that you can't question and you can't ask.
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  I mean, that's you know, people are not, I mean, uh, you know, what is what was the term that they used to use um when we were in school, they'd say, Are you a blind chauvinist?
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  In other words, that you would follow without even asking anything, and and that results in its own problems.
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  Well, it really does, and I'm an analyst, so I can support him, but still question uh what you know individual decisions, and I like to call balls and strikes basically.
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  You know, if you strike out, I'm gonna say so because I'm just being honest.
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  But I've also had a lot of criticism of some of the people that are in Trump's inner circle in the White House, who I think steer him the wrong way and also lead to bad hires, and then that creates bad policy.
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  So that's been one of my key criticisms that has been shared by many, many, many supporters of Trump.
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  That's a common sentiment, bad hires.
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  So that I'm not saying overall that Trump is blowing it on this war at all.
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  It's just that today's stock market job owning was excessive and I think ill considered.
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  I know what he was trying to do, but I think he needs to worry less about stock market prices and a lot more about winning the war.
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  Because look, stocks can go down in the short term.
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  We can then win the war, and stocks prices will go back up.
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  But if you're paralyzed by every small stock market drop or every small increase.
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  In the price of oil or even moderate price of uh, you know, increase the price of oil.
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  If you're paralyzed every time that happens, you won't win the war because your focus is on the wrong things, you know, and we've already seen gas prices go up.
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  We know they're going to be up for a while, and it probably is hitting his popularity, I'm sure.
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  But you know, do you operate on popularity or do you operate on trying to get things done?
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  Do you operate that's the problem is in the past because we had you know limited outlets.
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  We didn't have this massive social media.
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  We didn't have you know, pretty much the end of regular television.
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  You know, we at the at the time when a lot of these presidents like Reagan, he was just dealing with the uh the new newly formed CNN.
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  You didn't even have MBC at that point.
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  Well, that's a good point.
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  Now you you have more outlets to to cancel you in effect.
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  Well, you do, and you have social media reacting and responding to what you're doing in real time every single second.
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  So that's a problem.
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  So you have back seat drivers everywhere, like I guess me.
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  You know, but I mean, uh some of these people are not, you know, they're not really considering all the facts when they do criticize.
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  So my criticism is just more specific, more direct.
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  Let's look at that for a minute because there's criticism, there's analysis, and then there's sabotage.
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  There, you know, and there are choices legitimately that you'll say, Well, you know, he didn't do such a great job picking that person for that position.
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  It kind of hurt his image.
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  It hurt the whole plan of where he was trying to go with his make America great again.
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  And they were limited.
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  Um, the the question is, you know, you think about well, how do you separate that?
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  Because certainly you've had other presidents have made terrible choices, and then going back to Reagan, where Reagan was successful, he did a pretty good job on picking the people that he selected for the cabinet positions.
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  Well, he really reagan really did.
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  He only had one or two bad apples, and when he uh discovered them, he got rid of them, as you may remember.
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  He he wasn't afraid to fire people.
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  And first term Trump wasn't afraid to fire people at all.
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  Second term Trump, uh, you know, other than Christy Nohm, um, which was you know, that was so necessary.
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  It's uneven uh, you know, in question.
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  But you know, there are 20 more people I would fire right now that are in his inner circle, and you used the correct word, and that is saboteur, because these people are sabotaging him.
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  They are all in it for their personal gain and their deep state political agendas that are not Trump's that are not ours, and yet these people, how they ever got hired, much less kept their jobs.
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  So it's you know, Trump is a strong leader, but he uh the the weakness has always been in the betting process, the hiring process.
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  Well, you know, and and I want to bring you back to that too, because you've been around for a while, you know, White House personnel.
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  They had very qualified individuals back in the day that's who was going to serve a president.
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  You know, I served a president, I know how that is, and they really went through it.
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  I mean, when I had to go through Senate confirmation, you have no idea how I had to go through the FBI clearance, and you had a clearance that came from the Congress, and you had another clearance that happened.
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  You were cleared by so many people that you felt cleaner than clean by the time you got through it.
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  And probably violated, probably violated.
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  But the main thing is it's a different.
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  I don't know whether it's more casual, ironically.
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  Maybe it is, maybe it's not.
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  One of the people that worked for him in the first term, and I can't tell you online, but I can tell you offline was one of the biggest leakers that hurt him and came across on camera as one of his strongest allies and did a lot of terrible things privately.
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  Well, and and you know, I I'm not even sure which person you're talking about because there have been so many of those, there have been dozens of them, and maybe one stands out to you.
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  But this situation with Joe Kent last week, you know, was just one where it got so bad and so out in the open.
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  Uh, and the leaking was so obvious that he jumped out in front of the news cycle and turned into a never Trumper.
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  Uh, you know, it now he tried to play offense essentially instead of having to play defense when being caught.
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  But I think that a lot of the problem here is that Trump's hires him and based on who he sees on the box news channel when he's watching and who he thinks come, you know, come across.
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  Well, the problem with any of those folks is they are, you know, by their nature self-serving, which isn't a bad thing when you're pursuing a media if they're smart and they know what they're doing, and they're acting in the interest of the bigger perspective for the American people.
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  It's the old George Burns line.
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  Don't forget the folks who buy the tickets, you know.
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  And if you're working for everybody else and you're working for yourself because you want to be seen as the great and powerful wizard of Oz instead of really serving the people, that's the problem.
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  Well, it is the problem because you end up with people who are self-promoting.
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  And I think Christine Ome was the worst example of spending 200 million plus in taxpayer dollars to create an ad campaign.
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  By the way, the money went to a friend of hers who created a business days earlier, you know, all the money went there, and then we have these ads that are touting who they're touting Christie, you know, so they're promoting Christy with taxpayer.
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  It was really a huge ridiculous situation.
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  And that was tragic.
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  It was like watching her wearing her chap's boots over there by Mount Rushmore.
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  Oh posturing, and you know, great.
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  This is not a Vogue magazine shoot.
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  We're not trying to, you know, this is you don't need to be glamorous.
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  I would have liked to have seen her, and believe me, I'm a Latina, I love my makeup.
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  But when you're out there, you need your hair pulled back, you need your cowboy boots on, but the ones that have got the dirt on them and getting out there really and working your exactly broken, you know, well, look at the when you were in the airport security line, you know, there was a Christy Gnome ad, you know, playing over and over and over, even in the line.
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  And I just found that to be uh ridiculously excessive.
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  So these people that end up in the Trump administration, uh, then are really there to promote their next book deal, their next cable talk gig, hopefully on Fox News channel or newsmax or wherever they're hoping to land a contract.
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  So everything is about their own personal career positioning, and none of it is about serving the president of the United States.
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  That has been lost, I think.
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  Maybe it will be found.
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  We're gonna take a little break here, talking with our good friend international political analyst, my friend Brian Maloney.
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  Welcome to the National Security Hour.
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  I'm your host, Martita Cullum on the America Out Loud Network.
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  Joining me, my good friend, the international political analyst, the great Ryan.
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  Vote.
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  And people are, and I don't want to make sure I say vote, because a lot of people, Brian, are wanting to make sure that the vote is legitimate vote.
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  That, you know, while we have to show uh an ID to get a pack of cigarettes or to get a bottle of champagne or buy beer.
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  Yeah, you don't have to show anything under some people's advice from another side of the aisle that's saying, no, no, no, no, that's we don't need to do that.
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  But I think we should.
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  What do you think?
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  Well, I mean, we have 80% approval for the idea of voter ID in this country, and almost every country around the globe has a voter ID card.
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  I mean, including Mexico, including almost all Latin American countries.
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  Uh I mean, you know, I've seen images of these, and they look a lot like our U.S.
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  passport cards, very, very similar to those, actually.
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  And you know, and that is a standard operating procedure that everyone understands.
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  You don't vote in Mexico without showing that card.
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  And that's why would we have that here?
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  But the problem is it's not just that Democrats in the Senate are opposed to it, it's that we have Republican turncoats in the U.S.
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  Senate who are either blocking it, who refuse to vote for it, who are siding with Democrats, you know, there are a variety of schemes with this handful of senators that are making sure that we can't move this forward.
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  And then it came down to Trump trying to make a deal over the uh Texas U.S.
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  Senate race, which would have been a bad, bad, bad deal to support John Cornyn, who needs to be has have his butt kicked out of office very, very badly.
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  Uh, you know, Paxton's doing very well.
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  He's the clean very well.
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  Ken Paxton is the is the candidate of choice for Republican voters who can win in November.
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  John Cornyn will be defeated by the Democrat because Trump's voter base will stay home in protest in November.
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  And that's true.
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  It's interesting.
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  I've I've known Cornyn since he was a judge in San Antonio when I was just starting off my career.
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  I couldn't even use my real name.
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  They wouldn't let me use Blanquita.
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  I had to work with a guy by the name of Tom East, and they called it the Tom and Tony show.
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  And uh, but he was a kind of a different guy.
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  And what happens when they assume this great mantle of becoming the this of that, becoming the United States Senator.
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  Uh that power that that cloak of power becomes almost hypnotic to them.
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  And they believe that they're more important than the people they serve, and that's tragic.
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  Paxton, ironically, is kind of a funny guy, but he's pretty down to earth.
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  And I think even though you know he's got one eye that's a little messed up, and but people don't care about that, they kind of know he's the real deal.
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  It's gonna be interesting to see how that turns out.
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  Well, he is the real deal, and that's why there has been this multi-year smear campaign against Ken Paxton with these uh various uh ethics charges that have been thrown out the window ultimately because they weren't real, and I'm not saying that anybody running for office is an angel or a saint, but what I am saying is what they've thrown at him absolutely is not stuck, and it has been thoroughly investigated from top to bottom.
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  And if there was anything on Ken Paxton, we would know about it by now.
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  Yeah, they would have found it.
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  They would have found it.
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  They would have definitely one of the most yeah, one of the most thoroughly scrutinized uh attorney generals you've ever seen in your life, and now you have Senate candidates.
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  So the thing is I truly believe Ken Paxton can wipe the floor with the Democrat in November, and Corny will go down in flames because no one wants him back in office.
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  He has no support base, and I'm amazed he got as many votes as he did.
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  But look, he got 40% of the primary vote, and as we saw, the 60% that voted against him was split with a spoiler candidate getting 20%.
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  So, you know, and that's how we ended up with what we did.
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  I mean, it's just you know, it it was a and that spoiler candidate, as you I'm I'm sure you know that he was put in that race to spoil it, and that was an obvious ploy.
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  Um, and you know, very transparent ploy, but we won't have that.
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  Texas voters right now are very engaged, though they care, they're not messing around.
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  And and I know a little bit about the voters in Texas having spent so many years there and working closely with a lot of the people that are involved in politics there, they're not wasting any time.
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  They're getting out there and they're gonna try to make it make it better.
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  It's interesting because you know, when I first worked as a tour guide at the state capitol a thousand years ago, the first thing that happened.
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  I mean, Texans are crazy guys, they called the bombs bomb scare because they didn't want to have a vote.
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  And I thought, wow, uh, this is interesting.
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  I'm telling you, I've seen a lot of interesting plays politically in Texas, but I really believe that this may be Mr.
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  Corny and Senator Corny's last election.
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  We we want to get rid of the country club, the genteel atmosphere in the U.S.
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  Senate, as you were talking about a few minutes ago.
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  We need to get rid of that.
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  And these you can't get rid of these senators, they are you know attached to the Capitol like Barnacles on a boat and scraping them off is hard.
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  They don't want to be scraped off, and you know, they want to serve for some reason until they're 99 years old.
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  And look at you know, you know, you've had Nancy Pelosi, you've had you know, you had Diane Feinstein who who you couldn't even remember who the name of her members of her staff.
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  I mean, she had some really problems mentally at her age, you know, God bless her.
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  But at some point you say, okay, isn't it better to leave while you're on top than to leave before they're going, oh god, please, you know, enough is enough.
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  Well, as you say, with with her, you know, she had a 50-year political career, and I think that in the end, she's most known for hanging on to power for too long, and that's not what you want.
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  You know, go out with the bang at an earlier age and enjoy the rest of your life or whatever.
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  You don't need to be running the U.S.
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  Senate um with the but they're clever.
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  Okay, let's talk about this even more.
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  For example, I mean, you know, you can have term limits for senators, you can have term limits for the members of the Congress.
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  You don't have term limits for their staff, their staff can continue there forever.
• 26:39
  You have allies that were like, for example, I worked with Ted Kaufman, Ted Kaufman was the governor on the broadcasting board of governors with me.
• 26:49
  But when uh Joe Biden decided he was gonna run for the presidency, who did he put in there?
• 26:54
  But he put in his old chief of staff who became his best friend, Ted Kaufman, who became Senator Ted Kaufman.
• 27:00
  Now I didn't have a problem with Ted Kaufman personally, because I like Ted Kaufman, but the problem is there's it's like they haven't created a way where they can have a farm team where they can bring in new talent, fresh blood, younger people, right?
• 27:15
  Right.
• 27:16
  You know, they it's like uh almost a rest home for a lot of these politicians.
• 27:22
  Well, and you know, I I think to kind of illustrate your example, if Ken Paxton were to win the U.S.
• 27:28
  Senate race in November, which I know he can once we get past May, you know, if he were to keep Corning staff, let's say, you know, it would just be, and I and I hope that Paxton wouldn't do that.
• 27:39
  But you know, as you say, sometimes you inherit that last person staff, you know, and so unless you're willing to clean house to get entirely new staff, it's just gonna be a corn and repeat.
• 27:50
  Well, I think that's to be no better.
• 27:52
  You just made me think of something on that, Brian, because the other part of that is look, there are all like I don't want to use the term mafia in the Italian corrupt version of mafia, but like little groups, like if you need to, you've got military people, you've got religious people, you've got anti-religious, got pro-choice, pro-life.
• 28:12
  You've got all these different pockets of members of staff that control more seniority than a member of Congress that they may be working for that operate more powerfully and underneath than even the elected member of Congress.
• 28:27
  Well, I'll give you an example of that, and that is you know, that staff controls who the senator gets to meet with, you know, that staff can block meetings with people they don't want, you know, within reason, not with a majority leader or anything, you know, of someone of like a like a citizen, like you exactly.
• 28:47
  Yeah, yeah, they can wave you off and and not get you the appointment with the senator, and that's what they spend 99% of their time doing, actually.
• 28:55
  So, you know, they are controlling the information channel, the information flow to the senator.
• 29:01
  And when you go in, uh, it's very interesting when you go in and you meet with senators, staff, you know, what you find is they're not from the state, the senators from usually maybe one or two of them at front are, but usually in the back, they're not, and they just have completely different agendas of their own that may have nothing to do with what the senator stands for at all.
• 29:23
  And it makes you wonder where they find these people sometimes.
• 29:26
  Well, part of it is that they if they if they come in and they're so green, and they've never done that before.
• 29:32
  They say, Oh, you gotta get Joe Johnson.
• 29:34
  Joe's been around, he knows everything.
• 29:36
  He can help you write those bills, he knows what to look for.
• 29:38
  Joe knows how to work this operation, right?
• 29:41
  Right, right, right.
• 29:42
  You hear that from someone, you think, Well, God, you know, I gotta go in there, I've got to run an office in my home district, but I gotta run an office here.
• 29:49
  And I I don't know.
• 29:50
  I I I don't have time to read all this stuff.
• 29:52
  Maybe just exactly right.
• 29:54
  Well, that so you've nailed another point.
• 29:57
  When you do meet with these folks, what they are really
• 30:00
  Really trying to do is what anyone's trying to do in any job, and that is work avoidance.
• 30:04
  You know, it's like, well, I've got a lot on my plate.
• 30:06
  I don't have time to review all this.
• 30:08
  And as you say, this person comes recommended.
• 30:11
  This lobbyist knows how to write this bill.
• 30:13
  So we're going to let this lobbyist write the bill because I don't have time.
• 30:16
  I've got a lot of other things to worry about.
• 30:18
  And then the lobbyist writes the bill.
• 30:20
  So the system, I think, is flawed inherently.
• 30:23
  Um, and then you end up with bad bills, and you end up with this weird language inserted into bills, and nobody knows where it came from.
• 30:30
  And we have that every day of the week.
• 30:32
  You know, we have these writers attached to things that make no sense.
• 30:36
  And yeah, so I think I think you'd people don't know to look for that.
• 30:39
  The public didn't understand that here you'll know a bill that looks like it's going to help the homeless.
• 30:45
  And that sounds good.
• 30:45
  Everybody wants to help the homeless, but then you see 52 million dollars that's going to some other thing that's happens to that benefit the a bridge or some event, uh something and somebody's district, and they're not going to help you to pass that bill unless you give that money to them and that on that particular that little writer uh in the bill.
• 31:07
  That's exactly right.
• 31:09
  And that ends up wasting trillions of dollars.
• 31:11
  And you know, even the SAFE Act right now, as it stands, has a bunch of other issues attached to it, like that of tangential issues uh or totally unrelated issues, and you see that all the time.
• 31:23
  So, how many more of those writers you have to add to get the Save Act passed?
• 31:28
  And how many bridges do you have to build in blue districts?
• 31:32
  And that never really get completed.
• 31:34
  Yeah, they never get completed either.
• 31:36
  So, and that's probably, you know, if the Save Act ever does pass, um it will be because enough people were essentially bribed by having this or that or uh, you know, another thing done in their district.
• 31:48
  And that's not to me, that's not okay because the safe act is fundamentally an issue of honesty and decency and uh and fairness, you know, and having a system that we can trust.
• 32:01
  I mean, there was who is the guy that wrote the book on pork.
• 32:05
  Who was the one that wrote the pork book?
• 32:08
  And he, you know, you remember saying, you know, you're paying, you know, 15 million dollars to be able to get the toothbrushes, uh, you know, Grover Norquist.
• 32:18
  Maybe it was Grover that did the pork book.
• 32:20
  It might have been, yeah.
• 32:23
  Uh, but yeah, no, absolutely where they would track all of those things, and and we still have some people that are tracking those things.
• 32:29
  I guess we could use AI to do that now, probably.
• 32:33
  But um, but the bottom line is all that stuff adds up to massive amounts of money.
• 32:38
  There's massive amounts of waste and fraud that are going on.
• 32:42
  And and yeah, so we have basically a broken government.
• 32:46
  I think you know, it's so people come to me and they're they're so adamant that their side, their party has everything figured out and the other one doesn't.
• 32:56
  And and I just always look at them and say, you know, I have been there, I've seen it.
• 33:01
  I can tell you it's broken.
• 33:03
  There really aren't two parties.
• 33:05
  There isn't one you can really put your faith into in any way.
• 33:09
  It's well, I have a friend, I don't know if you know him in DC.
• 33:13
  And the ironic thing is his other career, other than being an analyst and a financial analyst as well, he's a magician, okay?
• 33:21
  He's a very good perfect.
• 33:24
  His name is David Morrie, and he wrote this book talking about the missing middle.
• 33:30
  That, you know, it's usually when people get elected, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, they somehow, as a president, end up going more toward the middle to be able to represent all the people.
• 33:43
  Right.
• 33:44
  The missing middle.
• 33:44
  Now you've got a real extreme right, and you've got a real extreme woke left.
• 33:49
  Right, right.
• 33:50
  And where is that missing middle?
• 33:52
  Well, the missing middle is now the majority of the American people.
• 33:56
  And I could tell you, you know, in my state, the which is a very, very, very liberal state, uh, the one of the most liberal in the country, the majority of voters now, not even just a plurality of voters anymore, but now a majority are are registered independent.
• 34:14
  So even the Democrats now have a shrinking percentage of registrations and Republicans a tiny sliver of that.
• 34:23
  So that when you have a majority of voters registered independent, uh, you know, there's an incredible opportunity to go in there with an independent campaign, an independent voice, but you have to have independent money, and that's the problem.
• 34:38
  Until somebody comes.
• 34:40
  Yeah, until somebody comes in with a bankroll because you're not going to get it from your party.
• 34:44
  You don't have one.
• 34:46
  Um, and so and if you try to start kind of a moderate party or whatever, it doesn't really get off the ground because people aren't motivated to really, you know, it's the it's the far left and far right that are motivated to get out there and do things not the middle.
• 34:58
  And really, you have to do the old Woodward and Bernstein line, and that is follow the money.
• 35:04
  Follow the money, absolutely.
• 35:06
  So it's coming from because it may look like it's coming from a corporation, but that corporation could be housed in China, could have ties to least, you know.
• 35:16
  So to be that's often the case, yeah.
• 35:19
  It was a lot.
• 35:20
  Well, that's it.
• 35:21
  So we, you know, so what we end up with are candidates who um, you know, have to top the party line of one or the other.
• 35:27
  But what we find are in these uh solid states that are either solid red or solid blue, you know, you just tend to get the same incumbents running over and over again until because we're talking about a few minutes ago until they're 90 or whatever, because the machine is set up to perpetuate their power, not to bring in new people, and that and so you have them until they die, basically, and that's what ends up.
• 35:50
  So you don't so what you have in a let's say a deep blue state, dark blue state, is a Republican Party that barely exists.
• 35:58
  You have a Democrat Party that is rusted and rotten and and really not very active.
• 36:05
  It doesn't have to really do anything other than put people on the ballot, it doesn't have to work at it, it just wins.
• 36:11
  Um, or or just you know, incumbents run unopposed.
• 36:15
  So the dominant party is actually surprisingly weak.
• 36:19
  Um, surprisingly, you know, kind of kind of like we were talking about Venezuela, you know, and its oil facilities were all rusted and but what they did in Venezuela, and we're gonna talk about this a little bit too, and that is they had the media police, the media police, according to Chavez, and believe me, I know about that firsthand because I was threatened by the media police.
• 36:40
  I'm sure you were.
• 36:41
  And the fact of the matter is they just didn't know that I was a Latina and that I spoke Spanish would save my life.
• 36:47
  But what they would do is they'd literally go to every television or radio station and shut them down if they weren't running what Chavez wanted.
• 36:54
  Right now, we have a situation right that is we don't have a media police, but we have a media that feels that it's influential, and that you know, if people don't play the way that they want to play, they can get canceled.
• 37:11
  Well, that's hold that thought.
• 37:13
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• 37:14
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  And I'm lucky to tell him with a great guest with a good friend for so many years.
• 38:38
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• 38:43
  International political analyst, Brian Maloney, real America.vote.
• 38:48
  Tell me about that.
• 38:50
  Yeah, so realamerica.vote is essentially a new tool that is being developed to find fake voters and weed them out, get them off the voter rolls forever.
• 39:02
  And what is surprising to many people when voter fraud is discussed, is that very few people are aware of how many totally invented names are on the voter rolls, especially in these blue states, but can happen anywhere actually.
• 39:19
  Isn't that just I can't remember whether it just happened in California where they discovered thousands?
• 39:24
  I mean, how do they how do they mask that?
• 39:26
  How does that happen?
• 39:28
  Well, they mask it by us not examining it, and they mask it by refusing to turn over the voter rolls in some states or some counties.
• 39:36
  So what real America.vote is doing is uh first of all, pressuring some of these governments to cop up the voter list, number one, but number two, to use a variety of high-tech methods to figure out who the fake people are, you know, fake individuals are that are on the rolls.
• 39:53
  And you know, because people joke about dead people voting or whatever, and that happens to say that about Chicago.
• 40:00
  Sure, sure.
• 40:00
  And they I think they still do, but they still do.
• 40:03
  But but the bottom line is you have people on there, and they're not necessarily listed as Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck.
• 40:10
  Right.
• 40:10
  But you know, maybe it's Joe Smith or something, and they don't exist.
• 40:13
  And how do you determine that they don't exist?
• 40:16
  Well, our group utilizes private detectives, most of which have a background in law enforcement, and they can utilize all the tools and they have tools at their disposal that the rest of us don't.
• 40:29
  Um, they have access to special databases.
• 40:32
  But one thing what they can determine is that look, these people don't have, say, a mobile phone, they don't have an internet, you know, line, they don't have um, they don't have a a credit card, you know, they don't have there's no sign of a mortgage or paying rent or a utility bill.
• 40:51
  So they go through and they just go down this list, and eventually you come to the conclusion that any person living in this society functioning is going to have one of these things.
• 41:02
  Uh, you know, I even if you live with family or whatever, you're still gonna have a phone of your own.
• 41:08
  Who does it?
• 41:08
  Right.
• 41:09
  You reach a point where if it walks like a duck, you know, uh quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
• 41:16
  And and that's you know, where any reason or not, or you call foul, sorry.
• 41:21
  But you call foul.
• 41:22
  Hey, listen, I want to I want to talk about want to go back to something while we were here in our last segment because you and I talked about the issue of the president not picking some of the best people, and you know, uh I mentioned briefly that when I first came here many years ago, gosh, it's not been 30 years ago.
• 41:45
  Um, and they had very smart people and presidential personnel.
• 41:51
  There was a criteria, not just for the people that work there, but they would have different people that have would have to interview you if you were being considered for a specific agency, and you had to have so much background and education.
• 42:05
  And I don't know, it just seems like that's kind of gone by the wayside.
• 42:11
  You know, the first thing they would say, did you vote?
• 42:13
  And then, but right now there's been some very bizarre choices, and then ultimately, I'm gonna throw this also for your consideration.
• 42:24
  Sorry, folks, it's a little split here.
• 42:27
  You have this group of people who had seemingly were very close to the president, and they've gone off the rails, whether it's uh Marjorie Taylor Green or a Tucker Carlson or a Candace Owens, or I mean, they've gone way off the radar.
• 42:43
  Let's first of all talk about the selection and go to the second part of that.
• 42:48
  Yeah, so I think the selection process uh changed from as you pointed out in the past, where people would be selected because they had some distinguished history of uh maybe scholarship or leadership or or past government experience or whatever, to a situation where people are picked because they have the largest Twitter following, you know, have the largest, uh, you know, so the algorithms on social media favor them over other people, and we've had some really bad, and that's going to be where we launch into the second part of your question there about these characters, right?
• 43:25
  It's algorithms that are picking these people, and it's also as I said, who was on Fox the most or whatever, who impressed the president.
• 43:33
  I get that.
• 43:33
  I mean, I think that I'm not gonna totally uh you know go after him about that.
• 43:38
  Maybe somebody does present well on Fox or whatever, you know, it probably does mean they can present well on camera on behalf of his administration.
• 43:46
  But the problem is you need to know what their agenda is behind the scenes is it to serve the president, or is it to serve themselves?
• 43:54
  And it's almost always to serve themselves.
• 43:56
  And Marjorie Taylor Green, and we're even seeing this with Lauren Bovers turning into the next Marjorie Taylor Green and some of the other names that you pointed out, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, these folks, it's more than just corruption, and it's more than just you know, taking a check from the highest bidder, because I think some of these people are on the payrolls and some very bad global actors, I mean, very, very bad actors, and it's incredible to think they were bought off so easily.
• 44:28
  But it's something else too.
• 44:30
  It's it's clearly that these folks pretended to be conservative, they pretended to be America First, MAGA, and then in the end, what they showed is that they were never anything of the sort, they were just deceivers, and so Brian, because you know, for me, what struck me is if you're gonna bail on somebody that you were such an advocate for that makes you question why should you trust them ever?
• 45:02
  You know, the question is if, you know, unless they did something so heinous and you know, you're completely heartbroken, and you and and you take a stand-up principle, but I'm not quite convinced that those people were.
• 45:18
  Well, one thing I can say is that you know, the day that Tucker Carlson was fired from the Fox News channel, we were all in shock.
• 45:24
  You know, he had the number one show, and there was no clear reason, there was actually no reason ever given for his termination, as you may recall.
• 45:31
  No reason was given by the company to this day, and we were all stunned because Tucker was at the time doing a pretty darn good job with his show, and he was number one, you know, and he had picked up basically Bill O'Reilly's audience and and kept most of it, and not all of it, but most of it, and that's pretty good because Bill O'Reilly was number one when he was fired.
• 45:53
  But as time went on, it became very, very clear that Fox executives obviously knew something about Tucker that we didn't know, because in hindsight, the decision to fire Tucker Carlson was was absolutely one of the most necessary and in brilliant decisions made.
• 46:12
  But it's a shock to your point.
• 46:14
  It was absolutely it was a shock, but but they knew something about him, and we still don't know what it was.
• 46:21
  You know, now we do have those private emails uh that were subpoenaed that were part of that lawsuit that came out in Discovery, you know, with the vote with the Dominion lawsuit that that Fox had to pay that $800 million settlement.
• 46:35
  And you know, what we saw in the emails and the text messages that were revealed was that Tucker was celebrating the end of Trump's first presidency, which is the exact opposite of what he was saying on the air.
• 46:50
  So they at least I'm I'm thinking that Fox looked at all of his emails, looked at his text messages and everything else, and realized we at best we've got a phony here.
• 47:02
  At worst, we've got a very dangerous loose canon.
• 47:06
  I'm still shocked because you know, they've had a lot of phonies that have worked on these networks, you know, you've had a lot of phonies that worked at these networks, yeah.
• 47:14
  And they were charming, they dressed well, they had good hair, yeah, or nice suits.
• 47:20
  Um, but you've had uh uh I I think I was surprised where I was surprised later with him was when he was had that uh that guy, what's this the griper of this Fuentes?
• 47:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:38
  Dick Fuentes, is that his name?
• 47:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:41
  And uh I thought to myself, that was bizarre.
• 47:44
  And when he went to Russia, that was bizarre.
• 47:47
  I don't question anybody going to Russia.
• 47:50
  I think we have to have journalists after overseeing Voice of America and Radio for Europe.
• 47:58
  I can't tell you how much respect I have for the journalists that are fearless.
• 48:02
  Oh, sure, sure.
• 48:03
  But that's not what Tucker was there.
• 48:05
  But that was different, yeah.
• 48:07
  He wasn't there to do, he wasn't there for the purpose of journalism, he was there for the purpose of propaganda.
• 48:13
  And I think in in for example, I think this uh this video tour he did of a Russian supermarket was bizarre.
• 48:21
  I mean, I don't think any of us were under the impression that Russians don't have grocery stores and produce to buy, and the whole purpose of I I just thought he must think we're really stupid, you know.
• 48:33
  So yes, Russians have groceries, you know.
• 48:35
  I would have had been more interested to see if North Koreans have a grocery store.
• 48:39
  Yeah, now that would have been interesting.
• 48:41
  Yeah, yeah.
• 48:42
  But you know, the Russ, the Russians have a grocery store.
• 48:45
  Yeah, the Soviet Union's been gone for over three decades.
• 48:49
  We know they have grocery stores, and they do look like ours.
• 48:51
  Yes, okay, fine.
• 48:53
  They you know, they ditched communism, great.
• 48:55
  I mean, so the trip was weird, and I think that uh what first of all, I think Tucker is under the influence of foreign agents who are paying him, but I don't think you're necessarily Russian.
• 49:06
  I think they're probably cutter or some other Middle Eastern country.
• 49:08
  That's I hope not.
• 49:10
  That would break my heart.
• 49:11
  I would be I think he probably is, but number two, I think he is also, and I base this on a person that I know who went to Tucker's studio in Florida to be a guest on one of his shows.
• 49:22
  This is before Tucker started having these weird guests on.
• 49:25
  Um, this was a while back, and who who described the experience to me and said that it was really like entering a cocoon or something where Tucker had so much protection around him, and I don't just mean physical security protection.
• 49:39
  I mean that he was protected, you know, he had the gatekeepers uh had gatekeepers, you know, had more gatekeepers.
• 49:46
  You know what I'm saying?
• 49:47
  But we're basically wondering did he did he have, you know, again to to give him the benefit of the doubt.
• 49:54
  Did he have threats?
• 49:55
  Did he have people?
• 49:57
  I'm sure he has threats.
• 49:58
  I mean, that the so I'm not.
• 50:00
  I'm not disputing Tucker Z for security, but I guess the guest arrived there as a huge fan of Tucker and left there scratching their head, wondering a skeptic, like what's going on here.
• 50:13
  This is weird.
• 50:14
  You know, now I I used to work with Rush Limpa, as you may know, years ago.
• 50:18
  And the one thing uh about him was he was incredibly down to earth, despite also having you know, kind of a lot of people around him, but he let certain people in uh to keep his feet on the ground.
• 50:31
  He let a handful of people in, and I was one of them, and I you know, I was very, very um uh honored to be one of those handful of people.
• 50:39
  Well, but he was also a big thinker.
• 50:41
  I mean, at that time he was a big thing.
• 50:43
  You know, a big thinker, and you know, I I'm a big First Amendment free speecher.
• 50:48
  I mean, I'd get out there and defend Rush Limbaugh and I'd defend Howard Stern at that point and Don Imus because in and really I would like to have a free speech off right now, where you have a battle of the free speech, right?
• 51:01
  Those guys did not feel compromised to have people that had different points of view because they knew how to fight for the for what they believed in, you know, even if I didn't agree with him.
• 51:11
  If I didn't agree with Howard Stern, he still knew how to do it.
• 51:14
  He was a talent.
• 51:15
  Well, and I think that you know, and the reason I bring up Rush is that Rush always kept his feet on the ground despite essentially being a billionaire when he died, and and also living in a protective cocoon, which was one out of necessity.
• 51:29
  I mean, I so when I was uh talk show host at KVI in Seattle in 1998, uh Rush Lumpaug came to visit us for a couple of days, and the amount of security at the station was essentially at Secret Service levels.
• 51:43
  In fact, I think some of them were former Secret Service agents, to be honest.
• 51:48
  And I saw, and back then we used fax machines, as you may recall.
• 51:53
  Unfortunately, yeah.
• 51:55
  Yeah, the newsroom had faxed machines and the wire service that print papers, and you know, but anyway, I saw the fax machine when Rush was in our studio, and I don't even know how some of these people had our newsroom fax number, but they did, and there were hundreds of death threats pouring through the fax machine, wasting all of our paper and ink.
• 52:14
  Uh, and you know, and all these threats at Rush, and and I was seeing them pour through as I'm trying to get ready for my own show.
• 52:21
  And I'm realizing, wow, I don't know if I would ever want to be Rush Limbaugh because I couldn't be able to go for a walk or he had a lot of courage, but he had a lot of courage, and and as you recall, he was genuinely collegial with everybody, despite their opinion.
• 52:38
  He wasn't uh oh yeah, and I mean, I think about a lot of the guys that I was on the different programs in that period in the 90s when you had very opinionated hosts, but the great thing was, you know, like uh I I talk about my friend Gloria Alridge.
• 52:55
  She and I would go on all the time together, and she'd say, Well, I'm gonna talk about this, and I'll come from here.
• 52:59
  And I said, Okay, well, I'm gonna talk about this, and I'll come from there, and we'd fight great on camera, and then we'd go out and have dinner.
• 53:05
  We're still good friends to this day.
• 53:07
  Exactly.
• 53:07
  And all the thing of it is that's the beauty of the freedom of speech, and that you didn't sit out to destroy each other.
• 53:14
  You sit out to have a good fight intellectually about the principles of what you believed and what they believed.
• 53:20
  Yeah, I it we used to have a lot of that.
• 53:22
  We used it in our business, we used to have a lot of camaraderie, even if you didn't agree.
• 53:27
  You know, I'll give you an example, and and you'll I know you'll agree with me on this, but Alan Combs was one of those people.
• 53:33
  Oh, he was a good friend of mine.
• 53:34
  Oh, he was the nicest guy, you know, and I know he drove people crazy on camera or whatever, but you are off camera, he was the sweetest guy.
• 53:43
  Oh, he was, he was.
• 53:45
  Um, and I I was at a Claremont gala uh recently, and his sister, I think, was sitting next to me at the table, his sister, I think it was.
• 53:56
  He was a good brother, and and we ended up talking about him the whole night.
• 54:00
  It was funny, and I'm sure I know you knew Alan a lot better than I did, but I it was it was just amazing.
• 54:05
  And so back then, you know, we could just disagree, we could scream at each other or whatever, but like you said, you could have a drink afterward or whatever, and well, the other guy that thought that is Tom Hartman.
• 54:15
  Tom Hartman and I would fight on camera, and then off the air, he and his wife and I we're good friends, you know.
• 54:22
  Absolutely.
• 54:23
  Part of it was the intellectual depth that you could go to on a topic to be able to decide whether you agree or you didn't agree.
• 54:32
  I mean, that was half the fun of it.
• 54:34
  But now it's you either agree or I'm going to destroy you and cancel you.
• 54:39
  Well, and it's more than that, we're not going in depth anymore on things.
• 54:43
  What we're doing is we're tweeting out garbage, you know, we're tweeting out things, everything is in these little tidbits now, and there isn't a depth to any arguments anymore.
• 54:52
  There is just a seven-word uh street or what you know, or what ti rate or whatever, and then another one and another one.
• 55:00
  And so there isn't so that's I think that's why what we're seeing elevated to the top of our food chain and social media are these clowns who are basically uh also grifter thieves.
• 55:12
  Um, is that they are the best at screaming the seven-word tweets, you know, they are the best at that.
• 55:18
  They got some notoriety at some point.
• 55:20
  The algorithm helped them pick up a million followers, and all of a sudden they're at the top of our food chain, but they are unvetted.
• 55:26
  Uh, we don't know who they really are, and they have no broadcaster media or journalism experience at all.
• 55:32
  They have got nothing, they were just whoever until one day when the algorithm said you you know you're the new chosen person.
• 55:40
  You're the new influencer.
• 55:41
  You was the here's the new influencer.
• 55:43
  So when they're the influencer that has so many so many uh, you know, viewers or whatever that enough clicks.
• 55:50
  I want to make sure as we're running out of time.
• 55:52
  I can't believe it.
• 55:53
  This happens every time we're on the air together.
• 55:55
  Um, that people go to the real America dot vote.
• 56:01
  Tell us where that tell us any other information that we have.
• 56:04
  We don't have a little bit of time.
• 56:06
  Well, so we really need everyone's support out there.
• 56:09
  And to you should find us on Twitter X, whatever I still call it Twitter.
• 56:13
  I know people call it X, whatever, Twitter, X, whatever.
• 56:16
  Real America.vote is very active there.
• 56:19
  Marley Hornik oversees that.
• 56:21
  Yes, I know she's been on with you.
• 56:24
  Um, and yes, and uh also on um that I mean that's a really important thing to do.
• 56:31
  So we need that support, but also go to the website realamerica.vote and a lot of information is there because some studies are about to get underway where the fake voters are going to be rooted out of the system.
• 56:44
  All right, we're gonna well you'll be back on when that comes out because you know you don't have to be a stranger to this show and we'll gonna have you come back on more frequently.
• 56:54
  Brian Maloney, my wonderful friend, real America dot vote.
• 56:59
  Thank you.
• 57:00
  And I'm Blanquita Kellum.
• 57:02
  We'll talk again very, very soon.
• 57:03
  Like, how about next week?
• 57:04
  Is that like that'd be fabulous?
• 57:07
  I would love it.
• 57:08
  Bye bye.
• 57:09
  Thank you, folks.