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Cancer Patient Becomes Drug Smuggler to Save His Own Life w/ Rick Hill · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So one of the things about doing this show, Man in America, that keeps me going, that gives me the energy to keep doing this and to not stop. Even though I get a lot of people that don't like what I'm doing and don't like the topics I'm covering because they question the narrative. They're not, they're they're something that will get you banned on Facebook if you share.
• 0:39
  But to me, this is the most important information, and I feel so blessed to be able to have a platform to have guests on that can help give you important information. And that's what really drives me is because I can whether it's, you know, a guest talking about finance or alternative medicine or geopolitics, I have the ability to help give you tools and information that you're not gonna find watching CNN or even Fox News or Newsmax. And so my guest today is a guy who's he's quite alright. He's a lot of fun. His name is Rick Hill, and he's someone that fifty years ago had a basically terminal cancer.
• 1:16
  And fifty years ago, he traveled down to Tijuana for some sort of very secretive cancer treatment that helped cure his cancer, and he had to smuggle this stuff, the medication he was taking to smuggle it back into America to finish his treatment. Now fast forward to today, he's still alive and kicking and full of energy, but now these basic treatments are available here in America. You don't have to go down to Mexico. And so the the center, the foundation of his treatment was actually just lay it real. So b seventeen amygdalin.
• 1:50
  I did a lot of shows on this before. If you're not familiar with it, perhaps you've seen people talking about eating apricot seed. They say, oh, if you eat apricot seeds, you can cure cancer. Well, it's actually because there's a substance called amygdalin within the apricot seeds that specifically targets cancer cells, and there's a whole lot of research. I've done a lot of shows on this, so you you can go back and you can find some of them.
• 2:11
  But Rick, in his story, again, you know, fifty years ago, he went through this process of having to go down to Tijuana for some obscure treatment that ended up curing him even though he was being before then treated at the Mayo Clinic at, like, the top, top, top in the country, and their only solution was, well, maybe we can give you some chemotherapy and keep you alive a little bit longer. So this is gonna be a great story not because it's some advanced doctor that's revealing some groundbreaking new information, but because we're talking to the guy that has lived this, the guy that was on his deathbed and trusted his gut, did what was unconventional at that time especially. Right? And just and and sought treatment outside of this Rockefeller run Western medical system. And so we're gonna be able to hear his story, what he did, the response, his family's response, the response of the doctor at the Mayo Clinic who would refuse to acknowledge what what he was able to do without, you know, advanced surgeries and chemotherapy and radiation.
• 3:11
  So, hopefully, this is an entertaining, which it will be, interview because this guy's got really fun energy to him, but I hope that you learn something. I hope that and I guess, fundamentally, my hope is that you have a little bit less fear of the c word. And That's one of the big things. That's why enjoy these interviews so much is because it can help dispel this fear. Like, okay.
• 3:30
  So say you get cancer. It's like, okay. Well, there's a lot of ways to treat it. There's a lot of different very affordable options, and it's not this thing that we have to be, like, so scared of. And it's like, okay.
• 3:40
  The only option is to be injecting poison into my body and losing my hair and hoping I survive. There's a lot of other ways to approach this, and so I'm I'm very grateful for him to be a guest on the show. I think you're gonna enjoy it. If you do enjoy it, please share this interview with a friend or your, you know, friend or family. Also, before we jump in, just a reminder that every show that I do is a podcast as well as a video.
• 4:01
  So if you're watching on video and you also like to listen sometimes, just go to very podcast app, search for man in America, and follow me on there. Alright. Let's just go and dive into this interview with mister Rick Hill. Mister Rick Hill, it's an honor to have you as a guest on the show. Thank you very much for being here with us today.
• 4:20
  Rick Hill: You're welcome, Seth. You come highly recommended, at John Richardson store. Wonderful. Yeah. Everybody's excited about this interview.
• 4:31
  Me too.
• 4:31
  Seth: Well, good. Good. So we have we have a very unique opportunity to have a discussion here about cancer. A lot of I I cover cancer a lot, and, you know, you know, health and and kind of alternative health are big parts of what I talk about on this show, but oftentimes I'm interviewing doctors that are currently treating cancer or people like John Richardson, who's talking about Laetrile and b seventeen and the legacy of his father or G. Edward Griffin, but you're someone that has survived cancer.
• 5:00
  Actually, you know, here here's your book, you know, too young to die, which, you know, you've survived cancer, been cancer for free for, what, around fifty years. And Yep. I I think that one thing that's really important to me so I I lost my brother to cancer. You know, he died when he was 33. He had non Hodgkin's lymphoma.
• 5:21
  He went through chemotherapy, radiation, the whole gamut.
• 5:24
  Rick Hill: Too young. Yeah.
• 5:25
  Seth: Way too young. I've got a lot of, you know, family and friends. I've got a friend right now, a woman in her forties that just found out she has breast cancer, and and they're exploring doing a double mastectomy because of it. And these are, you know, unfortunately, they're they're people that they don't understand that there are a lot of treatments that haven't been taught here in America or have been suppressed. But also, think it's really important.
• 5:48
  This is why I'm really excited about your story is to help dissolve the fear around cancer. Because to me, that's the real cancer. The real cancer is the cancer of the mind that there's this mind cancer where you think, oh my gosh, what if I have cancer? Like, I'm gonna probably die or I have to have chemotherapy. I'm gonna lose my hair.
• 6:08
  Like, there's such a massive collective fear around cancer, because the only ways that we believe you can cure cancer are through the slim chance of surviving chemotherapy, or a very destructive surgery, or radiation, And so, anyway, walk us through your story because your story is very, very important for people to hear.
• 6:31
  Rick Hill: Well, the the hallmark maybe of of, why I get interviewed and why I'm excited to be interviewed, I I open a show by saying I'm excited to be here. Actually, I'm excited to be anywhere, you know, after fifty years of having had a Mayo Clinic doctor look at me and say, well, you do have cancer. The challenge here is that it's in your lymphatic system now, and that is a super highway. So in a matter of a month, maybe month and a half, this cancer is gonna be in every organ group in your body. Your time is gone.
• 7:15
  And we're gonna start chemotherapy. Their attitude was, not when it's in the lymphatic system like that. And so I got right up against the wall. There was nowhere to go. Well, I'm sure some of your listeners at least have read the Bible, have a belief system, maybe not, doesn't matter what happened happened, But the chemotherapist had spoken to me on a Friday, and they're gonna start chemo on Monday.
• 7:52
  And they use an assumptive close for your salespeople out in your listenership.
• 7:59
  Seth: Assume the sale.
• 8:00
  Rick Hill: No. You're you assume your buyer is gonna buy. And they said, so we'll start chemo on Monday. And I'm going, I didn't know. I'm not a doctor.
• 8:11
  I'm dying.
• 8:12
  Seth: How old were you at this time?
• 8:13
  Rick Hill: 24. Yeah.
• 8:15
  Seth: You were 24.
• 8:17
  Rick Hill: Yeah. In fact, I've got a a photo here somewhere among the facts. Here you go. That show, that's what I looked like
• 8:30
  Seth: Wow.
• 8:31
  Rick Hill: At the Mayo Clinic. Yeah. That was one hundred and twenty pounds there. So, I got a letter, Seth, in the mail, Friday. I and I think God's got a sense of humor.
• 8:46
  Do you? Sometimes? Yes. That I think God goes, oh, no. No.
• 8:51
  No. Don't let that letter arrive before Friday. We want this guy you know, we want him ready to make a decision. And so Friday, I get this letter. I opened it up.
• 9:04
  It's from a a John Bircher, if you know what that is. It's like MAGA on steroids. So this guy just pinned me a sentence and said, if you want to live, you're going to have to leave the Mayo Clinic.
• 9:27
  Seth: So did you did you know who this guy was?
• 9:30
  Rick Hill: Yeah. He was a Baptist pastor in Minnesota, and I knew him. And I I just we weren't pals or anything, but, you know, word travels, especially through churches and temples and all that. And so I called him up. They had his phone number on the piece of paper, and I called him up and I said, John, do you know where I am?
• 9:56
  He said, Yeah, you're at the Mayo Clinic, I know. I said, It's a citadel of modern medicine, and you want me to leave. Could I ask why? And he said, Yeah, I agree. It is the citadel of modern medicine, but I'm not convinced it's medicine you need.
• 10:19
  I think you need to go somewhere where they understand the immune system, and I'm not seeing that there or any place like it. I said, oh, okay. Well, where do you think I ought to go? He said, are you sitting down? No.
• 10:38
  If somebody says to you, Seth, are you sitting down? You know this is gonna be a sphincter tightening announcement. Nothing good can come after that. I said, yeah, John, I'm sitting down. And this was his name was John Ballantyne.
• 10:57
  And he said, well, you get to fly into San Diego. I thought, okay. Who doesn't like that? And then I just felt this thing creeping up on me. I said, and then?
• 11:09
  Yeah. And then you're gonna get on a bus, and they'll take you down to Tijuana.
• 11:18
  Seth: That's suspicious.
• 11:20
  Rick Hill: What? I mean, especially in in the early seventies.
• 11:25
  Seth: Oh, god.
• 11:25
  Rick Hill: I thought I've been to Tijuana. It I had a Switchblade knife I bought there. I I bought some Chiclets. You know? My family was drinking some tequila.
• 11:36
  I was a little young. But no, not a modern Mecca of medicine, I'm sorry, and I'm not against the Mexican people. I grew up in Detroit. I don't make fun of any groups, but no, not leave the Mayo Clinic and go to Tijuana. And he said, Well, look, let me give you, write down some phone numbers, call a few patients that have been there.
• 12:02
  And then I got the number for the doctor and he'll talk. Just take an hour and check this, Rick. I said, all right, thank you for thinking of me. I call those people and they all gave me glowing reports, didn't lose their hair, didn't throw up, been alive for a couple of years afterwards, you know all that stuff. Then I called the doctor, told him my story, and he said, I'm just going to ask you one question.
• 12:35
  Are you willing to do whatever we ask you to do when you get here? Because if you're not, save your money and take a cruise, do something else. Because this is participatory medicine. If you don't help us, if you don't do the things we ask you to do, it won't work. And what we need down here is your immune system as an ally.
• 13:05
  This is not something we're going to do to you. This is something we're going to do with you. Is such a careful distinction that modern medicine has no clue on. And I said, I thought for a second, I said, yeah. I said, I just got word that my church, that then it was the First Baptist Church in New Ulm, they were willing to take a big collection, send me down there.
• 13:36
  And I said, but I'm gonna need to talk to my family. They gathered in Rochester to say goodbye, and so we'll have a come to Jesus meeting tonight, and then I'll let you know for sure. He said, okay, click. My family sat looking at me, I stood up barely, and I said, I am thinking about leaving the Mayo Clinic and going to Tijuana. To a person, my family went.
• 14:10
  And I looked around the room, and my older brother, Sam, Sam Hill, you can believe that, stood up and said, we always knew you were stupid. We just didn't know how stupid. If you leave the Mayo Clinic and you go to Mexico, I will never speak to you again.
• 14:33
  Seth: Lymphatic system. What what what what stage was it? Was it terminal? Like, where what was your overall diagnosis and what
• 14:42
  Rick Hill: It was
• 14:42
  Seth: What the doctors tell you? What what was your expectation?
• 14:45
  Rick Hill: I have it in writing. Yeah. From the Mayo Clinic. I had high grade.
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• 16:14
  Rick Hill: Stage three embryonal cell carcinoma that had quickly spread to my lymphatic system. And high grade stage three is pretty much like stage four. It is virulent, if that's the word. It's coming after you.
• 16:31
  Seth: It's aggressive. Right.
• 16:33
  Rick Hill: It's not a lounging in the, you know, the green room. It's it's after you. And, so I looked around the room hoping for some support. Nobody said anything except dirty looks. I learned more swear words in five minutes than I learned growing up on the streets of Detroit.
• 16:56
  They were and it wasn't that they didn't like me. It's that they thought I was committing suicide. And Seth, a lot of your listeners are gonna go through this. They want the loving support of their family and friends and people they've known their entire life will attack them as an obscure anus, as dense dork, Whatever names you can come up with, I've heard them, believe me. The American Cancer Society accused me of lying about this.
• 17:32
  And so I've got a letter from the American Cancer Society that says, No, you're not lying about this. You actually did have cancer. And here it is right here from the yeah. The Mayo Clinic says, let me hold it this way, that, yep, in regard to the question whether people have asked whether you actually did have cancer in the first place, you are entirely right that you had stage three high grade embryonal cell carcinoma, and it's signed, it's a Mayo Clinic stationary, and it is signed by my doctor. Not making it up, and my family was furious, but my father-in-law stood up.
• 18:25
  And he looked around the room, and he could see that I was sinking quickly, and he said, I like it. I will take him down there, and I will help pay for it. Well, I looked at him and said, Deal. Because later that evening, I had already talked before the family thing with the chemotherapist, called him up and said, I got this letter, Tijuana, what do you think I should do? Long pause, the chemotherapist said, It is warm this time of year in Tijuana.
• 19:05
  In other words, we can't help you. They can't help you. You might as well sit in the sunshine and have tequila. I'm glad he was that honest.
• 19:21
  Seth: Yeah. That's surprising. Been in
• 19:23
  Rick Hill: a fix if he just said, are you kidding me? You know? And done what my family had done. But he he knew that I was a a goner. So two days later, I'm cutting to the chase here for you.
• 19:37
  Two days later, I left for Tijuana, Mexico with my father-in-law, and we went down the rabbit hole. Imagine a greaser growing up in Detroit, going to San Diego in order to learn how to be a tree hugger. Some of your listeners will not blend with the new culture that they're gonna have to adopt to make this work. How do I know? The first time they took me to a health food store.
• 20:12
  I don't know if there were health food stores in Detroit in the seventies. I don't know. I'd never been to one. We ate at McDonald's three nights a week. My mother was from Sand Mountain, Alabama.
• 20:27
  There wasn't anything she couldn't fry in lard and not make it better, including jello. My mom fried everything. And I'd stop on the way home from school, and I'd get a big Coke and a bag of chips and some candy every day, but all the kids did. So that health food store, I walked in the door, I could hear Ravi Shanker music playing in the background. Everybody's in a % cotton wrinkle clothes, filtering food out of barrels, holding the food and going, oh, wow, I can feel it.
• 21:14
  And I'm thinking, oh, how am I gonna do this? And they're talking about colonics and they're talking about fasting and juicing. And I thought, I don't know if I can do this. Now sometimes you talk to these people and they'll say, you gotta believe. If you don't believe, it won't work.
• 21:42
  Do you think I believed? Do you think that I wasn't more confident in the Mayo Clinic than I was a little teeny clinic in Tijuana, Mexico surrounded by all these people that just seemed weird to me? I said, you know what? I made a commitment. My church paid my way down here.
• 22:04
  I made a commitment I'm gonna do it, whether it makes sense to me or it doesn't. I'm gonna close my eyes and just do it. Sometimes, Seth, you gotta go it alone. You're not gonna get the support you were hoping for. Sometimes you just have to kinda go, I'm here.
• 22:27
  I'm staying. I'm gonna do it. So what kinda early questions do you have?
• 22:33
  Seth: Well, I'm just I'm just curious what it looked like going to Tijuana and arriving at this clinic, and what what would even happen there. Because it it see you know, to hear the story, it you know, you conjure up these things in the imagination of, like, some dark alley. There's, like, there's, like, a chicken fight over here, and there's a cartel member over there, and you're
• 22:55
  Rick Hill: Couple of mules over here.
• 22:56
  Seth: Exactly. And there's, like, the the three amigos with their sombreros over there with a little good, you know, good mariachi, know, band playing. And but I guess, like, what what was it like going down into Tijuana, and what was that experience like? And obviously, I I wanna hear about, like, what the treatment was Yeah. What happened.
• 23:13
  Obviously, you're still here fifty years later. They did something right, I'm guessing. But walk us through that experience.
• 23:20
  Rick Hill: Well, this was the seventies. Let me always preface it with that. And Tijuana was a very, modest. You're always struck when you cross over the border from San Diego with nice modern roads and the nice buildings and manicured lawns and all this stuff, and all of a sudden you cross that border, and you see all these tin shacks along the border. And it just like going way back in time.
• 23:55
  You get near the clinic I went to, called the Oasis of Hope, was near the ocean in Playas. So he just followed the fence down to the ocean, and there's a big bull ring down there. I mean, a bull ring right there at the clinic across the street. And I'm like, oh man. And back then Oyster Hope was just this sort of like Quonset hut building, not very nice.
• 24:28
  I mean, wasn't dirty, but it was just modest. And there were like a hundred of us gathered in there to get this new treatment. And I was so sick that I could not sit in a chair. See that painting behind me on the wall? Do you see it?
• 24:50
  That's the Good Samaritan. You've seen it. That hung in the clinic only 20 feet long. And my father-in-law found a rug in the clinic, spread it out underneath that painting and said to me, Lay down on this and I'll get you registered and I'll do the legwork. Yeah, it was something.
• 25:21
  And they called my name finally, my father-in-law helped me up. We went in the back room, and I looked down the hall and I saw Doctor. Contreras, because I'd seen his picture and doing a little research. And I yelled, I said, Doctor. Contreras.
• 25:37
  And he turned around and I said, It's Rick Hill, Les Bardwell from Minnesota. We're here. And he turned and he said, and I'm glad you are. Come on in right now. Let's chat for a few minutes.
• 25:49
  Took me into his office, laid me on his exam table, opened my shirt up, and he went like this. And I looked up and said, I'm fuzzy on you mean you can't help me? What what is it you're you're communicating? He said, none of this had to happen. None of this.
• 26:15
  Had you come here first? And I said, I don't want to hear that story. Me tell you, Rick, the thousand ways you've failed so far. He said, but the good news is, like we agreed, if you'll do what we ask, I think you can have a full recovery.
• 26:33
  Seth: So Is this the doctor you saw here?
• 26:37
  Rick Hill: Well, his dad, her dad. Yeah. That's Francisco in the in the picture.
• 26:44
  Seth: Oh, it makes sense. Right? This is fifty years ago. He he would have been 10 years old.
• 26:49
  Rick Hill: Francisco is probably close to my age.
• 26:51
  Seth: So Ernesto was his father.
• 26:53
  Rick Hill: Saw him one time when I was down there early, early, early, like in the early '80s. There he is right there. Good for you. That's Doctor. Ernesto Contreras.
• 27:02
  That's the doctor I went to. And these were all guys that were blazing the trail. John's father, John Richardson, MD, Doctor. Contreras, these guys were all maligned. All of them were told they were quacks.
• 27:20
  Doctor. Richardson really paid the price because they, at gunpoint, raided his office twice, this is in California, took away his medical license and threw him in jail. This is what John Jr, the guy you've had on your show lived through. It horrifying that big pharma wanted money so badly that even though people like me were getting well, they outlawed And and then turned me into a criminal when I left the clinic, I had to smuggle the stuff out of the country. Do I look like a smuggler to you?
• 28:02
  You know what we do to stay alive, I guess.
• 28:07
  Seth: So so he he looks at you on his exam table, and he he's looking shaking his head saying, you didn't have to go through this.
• 28:17
  Rick Hill: Yeah. And and I I said, well, I did agree to do what you you guys will tell me to do. So let's cut to the chase. What did they tell me to do? There were only three products, Seth.
• 28:29
  This is so simple and so inexpensive. It's too simple. It's a food that they use. They take the apricot plant, the fruit. You've eaten an apricot.
• 28:45
  I have. It's not my go to fruit, but I do eat them when they're in the grocery store and they're in season. And you take that pit in the middle, you break it open, and inside there's an almond looking nut. And have you ever eaten an apple seed when you were eating an apple? Okay.
• 29:08
  What what what was what struck you about it?
• 29:10
  Seth: They're bitter.
• 29:12
  Rick Hill: They're bitter.
• 29:13
  Seth: Yeah. Well, I've eaten eaten a of of apricot seeds also, and they're even more bitter than apple seeds.
• 29:18
  Rick Hill: They're more bitter. Yeah. Yeah. I but then, you know, how I counter that, I say, listen. Do you remember the first mouth of beer that you drank?
• 29:27
  I mean, didn't you make a faith? I did. I was probably eight years old, and I snuck up, you know, a bottle from my dad's pantry, and we we started. And I thought, why? Why would somebody drink this?
• 29:45
  Today, I don't feel that way. Now I don't drink a lot because it's not good for you, but I do like the taste. I got used to it, And I feel that way about apricot kernels. They are bitter, but they have a nice flavor to them as well. Bakers even buy it in bulk to make baked goods out of them because that amaretto flavor comes through, and it's quite nice.
• 30:19
  But I get it if you eat a few of those seeds and go, what is he thinking? No, I'm thinking they're very good for you. And cultures like the people in Hunza who ate those regularly, the culture knew almost no cancer at all, good teeth, good eyesight until 100, one hundred and 20 years old. So it's a little bit like the Brits who cured scurvy just by getting the sailors to eat limes. It was a deficiency disease.
• 30:59
  Is it possible that cancer could be a metabolic deficiency? I think so. That's how I salt it, by using a food product. So they make it in a liquid form that they inject IV, right here in the arm. I got a three to six gram injection daily for twenty one days.
• 31:24
  Basically that was it. And then they gave me digestive enzymes like chymotrypsin and bromelain and some other good ones, but I wasn't eating meat at the time because they said it's hard to digest. So that isn't why they were giving me enzymes. They were giving me enzymes between meals, because those particular pancreatic enzymes, according to Doctor. John Beard and Doctor.
• 31:54
  Ernst Krebs, Krebs cycle guy, famous guy, they said that those digestive enzymes break down the protective coating that cancer cells have, and then your immune system, Seth, can see them. So they're floating along in your stream and all of a sudden you've been eating those digestive enzymes and they go, Over there, over there, let's get them! And there's a war going on in your system. That's what Doctor. Contreras meant when he said, We need to form an ally out of your own immune system.
• 32:36
  Without that, we can't succeed. There you go. So I took Laotrole, he's 17. Now your listeners can buy this from rncstore.com. You've got it there on the screen.
• 32:53
  And they can also buy a liquid form if they need treatment. They'd have to have a physician to help them do that. But if they are just trying to not get sick, we have a, back it up a little bit, yeah, prevention bundle. Pro three would be for someone who wants treatment, go a little farther down and you'll see a little more, the prevention bundle. Three products, see, Laotro B17, Pro Enzymes and B15.
• 33:25
  So I've talked about two of them. The B15 is an oxidizer, athletes use it. It helps you oxidize your system, and cancer hates that. So I'm saying that I use these on a daily basis, probably cost me less than a dollar a day. And people go, oh, those people are just after my money.
• 33:54
  How much do you think it cost me to undergo nine hours of surgery at the Mayo Clinic?
• 34:00
  Seth: I mean, brother's cancer my brother's bill for his, it was a he had hit a lot of other issues, but fundamentally, it was the non Hodgkin's lymphoma. His medical bill was around $1,500,000. That was his medical bill.
• 34:15
  Rick Hill: Well, I I'm not here to throw rocks at things because I'm not a doctor and I'm not that smart. I was always voted not even to succeed. They said he's a class clown. I'll take it. It's some notoriety, but when it comes to cancer, cancer's not funny, but Seth, what they do to you is kind of hysterical.
• 34:43
  You say, okay, we got these chemicals here, okay? And they're poison, really bad poison, but you might survive it. And we're gonna charge your insurance company about a half mil to give you these. Your insurance is gonna run out way before that. But this is what we're recommending.
• 35:07
  When I was at the Mayo Clinic, I pulled all the needles out of me and I walked down the hall to the chemotherapy ward. And I went into three or four rooms and sat down next to the patient and said, My name's Rick, I live down the hall. I'll be down here next week. Could I ask you one question? Yeah.
• 35:26
  If you had a to do over, would you take this chemotherapy you're taking to a person? They said, nope. Now how smart would you have to be if you were gonna buy a Chevy and three people told you they were the worst cars I've ever bought? And I'm not picking on Chevy. It could be a Dodge.
• 35:49
  You know? And you said, thank you. And then you got in your car and you drove to a Chevy dealer and bought one. How smart would you have to be? Well, I went back to my room that night, and I thought, I don't know if this chemo thing is such a good idea, but I don't know what else it can't radiate my whole body, and it is in my lymphatics.
• 36:14
  So those those three products were the products I used. So And on our website or even for sale, as you see there, it's, like, 90 what is it? $99 or something?
• 36:29
  Seth: Or $1.19. Hundred bucks? Yeah. So I think the so, basically, this is Laetrile b seventeen, which I've I've I've done a lot of interviews with John Richardson to to simplify. It's it's basically what's inside of the apricot seed or the apple seed.
• 36:45
  Right? It's there's a which is you know, amygdalin is the think the technical name for it, right? So you've got B17, B15, which is an oxidizer and the enzymes, and this is it. Fifty years ago, when you were in Tijuana, they were basically giving you this exact thing. That's and that's it?
• 37:08
  Rick Hill: Yep. Only difference was I took the capsules after my treatment for a while.
• 37:16
  Seth: Intravenous when you were there?
• 37:18
  Rick Hill: When I was there because I was fighting in a forest fire, and you don't charge hell with a squirt gun. You know? Good idea, but not enough firepower. But if if your listeners are thinking about prevention, that's all they'd ever have to do. One of those a day even.
• 37:36
  And that would last them three months. I mean, come on. And and you know? So I you set up a discount with your, with RNC store so that your listeners could get, I think, a 10% discount. And what is that code that they fill in at the end?
• 37:56
  Seth: Oh, it's just my name, Seth. Just promo code Seth. Yep.
• 38:00
  Rick Hill: S e t h. At the end of the order, it'll say, do you have a discount code? And they write your name and they'll take 10% off the order and it's already low priced on sale. So I'm not gonna keep selling it. I'm saying what we've got here is an inexpensive food product that the Mayo Clinic pretty much gave up on me, but I used in Tijuana, Mexico 50 Years ago.
• 38:28
  By the way, I have right here. I'll show you. That is a trophy that the Mayo that Oasis of Hope gave me for surviving fifty years. Somebody said, Oh, you got a nice recognition there. What'd you do to get it?
• 38:48
  And I said, Kept breathing. That's it. But I learned how to fast, short term. I learned how to do colonics. Now there's a day at the beach, Seth.
• 39:03
  Mean, the first time, imagine a greaser from Detroit goes in for his first colonic, they came in and said, all right, Rick, we need to start your detox. I said, okay. Alright. Good. Yeah.
• 39:15
  I've eaten a lot of McDonald's. I've eaten a lot of candy, so I I get it. And I said, how do you do that? And they said, well, have you ever changed the water and the radiator of your car? I said, oh, yeah.
• 39:26
  Got a '57 Ford, slick tires, first floor shift, handling it. And she said, well, yeah. But how'd you change the water? Well, you you know, you unscrew both top and bottom, put the garden hose in there. When it when it flows clear, take the hose out, cap it up, and lay rubber out of the parking lot.
• 39:46
  That's it. She's standing there with a hose. She looks at me and goes, that's it. And I said, where does the hose go? This was not this was not what I wanted.
• 40:01
  They don't hurt. They're not embarrassing, but I've never enjoyed one. Not one. And I did a colonic a week for five years. Wow.
• 40:14
  Because I would fast a couple of days, watermelon juice, I like that fast because I like watermelon. And and then your whole system thinks it's being killed, and it makes your immune system go into hyperdrive. You can read all this on the Internet. And and then you you this crazy guy is trying to kill us. Come on.
• 40:35
  Send the troops out there to save him. And then at the end of it, I would do a colonic because your whole system goes to sleep. You know? And I don't wanna take laxatives. So I would do a colonic, and I did this for five years.
• 40:52
  Now people, I don't know, we're raising a generation of weenies because you say to them, now this program is for life. You really need to detox for at least a year, and then you need to use in low levels these products that we're talking about. Cheap, low levels. Are you willing to do that? Oh, yeah.
• 41:16
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then they get home, and within a month, they're back at the pizzeria drinking beer. And you ask them why, and they go, I got bored.
• 41:26
  And, know, I mean, I ate a lot of salads and I ate a lot of fruit bowls, but I got bored. How exciting is it, do you think, when you're dead? You know, I I think there's an heaven. I hope, I believe I'm going there, but part of me is in the ground. I don't think that's exciting.
• 41:53
  You know, I don't know what people are thinking. One man, J. I. Rodale said, Cancer is a Well, the title of the book was Happy People Rarely Get Cancer. In other words, that's our backdoor out of this thing.
• 42:11
  Well, I don't I think that's overstated, way overstated, but I do think this. When you see these people who pay money to go, get the Laotryl, get the diet, go home, and don't even practice it a month or two, What is your conclusion? Do they wanna live? I don't know. I did.
• 42:37
  I'd walk into bakeries And and my daughter said, dad, why are we going in here? And I'd say, because I'm gonna look at what I'm not gonna do. It was clear to me what I was willing to do and not do, but I just want to smell that stuff cooking. And I want to walk into a pizzeria, and I want to look at fried chicken. Why?
• 43:07
  Because I miss all that stuff. I do. But the longer you're in this, you can learn how to cook with organic, you can learn how to properly prepare food, and really, it it isn't bad. But it's a it's a shocker in the beginning. And I think your listeners should know that, but we're looking for a few good men and a few good women that wanna watch the Seth show, Man in America, and and they wanna go, you know what?
• 43:41
  I heard that guy. Seth believes in this. I know where to buy it. I'm gonna I'm gonna try it. And and as the criticisms flow in and your good friends say, are you absolutely out of your mind?
• 43:58
  Then you just look at me and go, maybe. But I think what I'm not doing makes a lot more sense than what I am doing.
• 44:10
  Seth: And so
• 44:11
  Rick Hill: Did I say that right?
• 44:12
  Seth: I think so. So Yeah. They had you on twenty one days of a more intensive leotrol b seventeen drip, in addition to b fifteen and, enzymes. So, what happened after that? Did they did they didn't release you?
• 44:32
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• 46:30
  Rick Hill: Okay. We did the Dentense program for twenty one days, and then they sent me home. I had to smuggle the Leotrope capsules out of there. I didn't continue to take the shots, but I had to take the little capsules. And I had them in my underwear.
• 46:47
  I had them everywhere. It was just like a crazy person. Here I am on a Delta jet with all this stuff crammed into my you know, I mean, is it just golly. Give me a break. I'm so glad Bobby Kennedy is here.
• 47:08
  If he can look. I don't think Bobby Kennedy has to tell Rick Hill that what you did was really smart, and I agree with you. I don't care if he never says that. Here's what I want from Bobby Kennedy. You have the freedom to try.
• 47:26
  Rick, that's it. If I'm gonna fight with all those congressmen and if I'm gonna do battle out there, do battle just to get permission and freedom of choice. That's what we need. I don't need Bobby Kennedy to think I'm a smart guy. I've never met him.
• 47:53
  So after the twenty one days, I went home, and that is where the rubber meets the road. Because can imagine, I walked into my home, opened the refrigerator door, looked at my wife and said, There's nothing in here we can eat. Bam. Open the cupboards. Nope.
• 48:16
  Everything's got preservatives, food coloring, canned, you know. We boxed all that stuff up and gave it to our next door neighbor. Didn't like them much. Had to find places. This is the seventies.
• 48:34
  We once drove 35 miles in the dead of winter to find a farm that raised organic chickens. Because after a year and a half, I said, I would really like some chicken. I'll eat four ounces broiled, but I need an organic one, and those stores never had them back then. So the rubber meets the road, not when they're at the clinic and there's people watching you. The rubber meets the road when you get home and your friends call you up and say, okay.
• 49:07
  You went down the rabbit hole. I hope you said hi to Alice, but we're going out for hamburgers tonight. We want you to come. Probably not organic hamburgers. Probably not gluten free buns.
• 49:25
  Probably not organic ketchup. No, my doctor took me off that kind of food. I can't go with you. But hey, I appreciate you thinking of me. Well, how long is this gonna last?
• 49:40
  I don't know. I'm only 25 now. Thirty years? And some of the friends never come back over this. They never come back.
• 49:56
  And because it's associated with a conservative movement anyway. And so all your not so conservative friends think, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big conspiracy here.
• 50:07
  You can't get the you can't get you can't get the jab. You can't do this. You can't do that, and they just don't have any time for you. Okay. So I would encourage your listeners to get over to RNC store, get that three little products.
• 50:26
  That's not much money hydration that I drink. And I also filter water and you can get distilled water and etcetera. No more Cokes, no more smoking, no more heavy duty candy. Now do I treat myself well? I've been at this a long time.
• 50:48
  Yeah. Usually at Thanksgiving, I have one slice of gluten free pumpkin pie. That's not so bad. And and at Halloween, I'll have some organic candy, a little bit, one or two pieces. I weigh one hundred and sixty pounds.
• 51:09
  I'm five'nine. People come up to me after I speak and they say, You know, you act like if we ever eat at McDonald's, we're never going to heaven. I said, really? I don't believe that. In fact, I think you're gonna get there quicker.
• 51:29
  So I don't get many questions, but, yeah, I'm hoping your listeners leave this show frustrated because they've got to deal with it. Yes or no. And I'm thankful for people like you, Seth, who have spent the money to bring yourself on the air, did the work to find people that are not mainstream, you're saying, here's a choice. I'm not telling you this is what to do, I'm just giving you a choice. And if Bobby does his job, we will have that choice, and we'll be able to do it.
• 52:18
  So what kind of questions do you have?
• 52:21
  Seth: Well, I'm kind of just I'm on the edge of my seat thinking, so when when were you finally cancer free? And and then the second question of that is what did you ever go back to the original doctors that knew you knew your condition and explain how you cured yourself? So, so walk us through that. So when did you finally hit that point where this what you're doing worked, and what was the response of the though of the kind of the, modern Western medical?
• 52:51
  Rick Hill: But doctor Contreras would do blood slides to measure what they call tumor markers. He would, I'd send in slides every ninety days or so, and he'd get ahold of me through his staff and say, you know, you're on the way up. You're doing the right things. Don't stop whatever you're doing. And I'd be lying to your listeners if I didn't say, it took about a year for me to get my feet back under me because 120, eight and a half, 10 hours, to many of you, of surgery.
• 53:38
  And by the way, that was just exploratory. That was not curative. They just didn't have scans in those days. So the only way they operated on my neck, they found it. They operated on my feet, they found it.
• 53:52
  That pretty much covers the real estate I've got. And, you know, so I was always feeling a little better. And then after a year, I was ready to go back to work. Some people get to that stage way earlier, like in a month. It depends how sick you are, how much surgery you've had, what kind of surgery you had.
• 54:18
  I don't flip answers out there, you know, and say, Oh yeah, ninety days max. I don't know. But for me, it took a while, but that's okay. And I did go back to the Mayo Clinic and met with my surgeon, and I just said, Hey, I'm feeling better, I'd like to come in and chat with you. He said, Fine, set the appointment.
• 54:43
  I was living in New Ulm, Minnesota at the time, which was, I don't know, two and a half, three hour drive to Rochester, I think, roughly. And I walked into his office and here I am, by that time, fifteen pounds heavier and tan and standing straight up. And I walked in the door and he went, And he went like this. Like, stop. And I stopped.
• 55:14
  And he said, I want before we get started in this conversation, I want you to know that what you did in Mexico could have had nothing to do with this apparent recovery that you've had.
• 55:30
  Seth: That was his first response?
• 55:32
  Rick Hill: First response. So I looked at him, and I said, you know, doc, you seem like a bright guy. But this is what I know about you. You're not a healer. Because a real healer would have gone crying in a bucket.
• 55:49
  What happened to you? I I mean, I can't believe any of this is real, but sit down. I'm gonna take notes. You talk. Tell me what you did and why you did it.
• 56:00
  I'm at least gonna research this. Nope. Nope. Can't make a Porsche payment with that approach. Yes.
• 56:13
  He was close to the idea. I said, Well, you are, doc, you're not a healer, you're a drug dealer.
• 56:23
  Seth: Told He
• 56:23
  Rick Hill: wanted to give me terribly expensive drugs, which in my opinion and the opinion of other doctors I've talked to would have been the hill I died on two years ago. But I said no, and I went somewhere where they understand the immune system. So you're not a healer in my mind, and no, we're not going to have a discussion. And I turned around and walked out, and that was it. Never saw him again, nothing.
• 56:58
  Now the letter that they sent from the Mayo Clinic that he signed was very cordial. It said, You know, we're not unhappy that you did this. We don't hold it against you. We don't know much about this. It was political.
• 57:14
  But when face to face and there's no recorders running and no one you know, he told me what he really thought.
• 57:24
  Seth: It's it's crazy that that that would I mean, it shows how deep the indoctrination is they don't even want to look at it. There's no curiosity. There's no, like the old doctors if you look at, you know, whether it's the traditional Chinese medicine or even the old school doctors, they were experts at their own senses. Like they knew how they could look at somebody and see how they were walking, could smell them, they could, they could hear them talk, they could detect the illness and everything in health, just through their own senses, not just through some a clipboard they're looking at. Do you do this?
• 58:02
  Okay, do you do this? It's just the whole system has changed so much.
• 58:08
  Rick Hill: Yeah, and modern medicine, I mean, I don't know if you get an annual checkup, but I have medical insurance through Medicare, and I go for checkups. Get the flu once in a while, although I did not have a COVID shot, but I get regular flu. I've had COVID twice. I'm human. And I didn't feel well, but it only lasted three days both times.
• 58:35
  And I've had regular flus that were worse, actually. But I go to the doctor and it's so weird. They walk in, shake hands, wash their hands, and they sit down at a computer that's on a thing. They started, the nurse has already taken your vitals that's on the screen. And he says, Anything you wanna report?
• 58:59
  And he's not looking at you or she. And in my hospital, they changed my personal provider three times in the last four years, and I never requested it. And I'm not hard to get along with. There's so much turnover and people are so disgusted with modern medicine. They don't look at, they're typing.
• 59:25
  And have you had any fevers? No. Have you had any unprotected sex? No. Are you drinking a lot?
• 59:32
  No. Okay. How about your sleep? Are you sleeping? Okay.
• 59:36
  Are there any prescriptions you think you need? I mean, this is crazy. These are not healers. They're order takers. I spend more time with your viewers than any doctor almost in the system would take, explaining as carefully as I can why I did what I did, and then I'm showing you proof of concept.
• 1:00:13
  I'm here. I got my little award. You wanna see it again?
• 1:00:18
  Seth: Well, so one question I have is that as you obviously, you wrote a book. I'll pull up your book right here, which is also on RNC store. So too young to So as you became more vocal about this, because obviously you've had fifty years to discuss this, and you and fifty years ago, someone going to Tijuana and curing themselves from a very aggressive cancer using something that no doctor can make much money off of. Right? These these lay a trail, you can get I mean, if if you look here, just as an example, right, if you look at this apricot seeds, right, you can get a bag of apricot seeds.
• 1:01:00
  This is, you know, two pounds for $36. Right? So this stuff that'll last you? Exactly. You eat a couple of those a Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:09
  So And that'll
• 1:01:10
  Rick Hill: last you months for 20 what is it? $25 or $20?
• 1:01:14
  Seth: 20 5 for a pound and 36 for two pounds. So
• 1:01:18
  Rick Hill: I mean, crying in a bucket.
• 1:01:20
  Seth: There you go. So did you ever get any pushback for talking about this publicly? Because I know that you you know, you're someone that won't just sit quietly and go along with something. You're obviously someone that is not afraid to buck the system, and so after you got healthy, and you went through that and saw the difference between these two medical systems, did you start making some noise about that? And was there any pushback?
• 1:01:46
  Rick Hill: Well, the reason I have that letter that I showed you from the Mayo Clinic is because I was vocal when I got out. And I would start speaking to churches, libraries, civic groups. Know, people would recommend, hey. There's a guy living over here that I don't know. He didn't take chemo and that kind of thing.
• 1:02:09
  Women's groups, I didn't care. Living rooms, I'd speak to five or six people. But when I do a little group like a church, especially a large church, the American Cancer Society would send a representative to those bigger meetings, cause they were advertising the meetings in the paper. That's how they knew. And the next day, especially in smaller towns, they would run an article about me, picture me, statements that I made, da da da, but then the American Cancer Society would run a column right across the page.
• 1:02:48
  And this happened again and again and again, and the people, did you ever see on CNN or whatever where a bunch of news people will give the same statement with over 20 different people in a short time. So somebody's feeding the information. Well, somebody fed this lady information and she said, and I quote, As for the testimony offered, comma, it may be that he never had cancer in the first place. In other words, I'm lying. And they didn't do me again and again and again.
• 1:03:32
  And so finally I got fed up and I overnighted a letter to the Mayo Clinic and I said, I'm smart enough to do this. The American Cancer Society has accused you of misdiagnosing me. So that eight hours of surgery that you did on me would be malpractice, wouldn't it? So I'm gonna get an attorney, and American Cancer Society can't be wrong, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this, and if you did misdiagnose me, I'm gonna own one of the floors of that hospital. Rick.
• 1:04:13
  Overnight, the letter that I read to you came back. All flowers and nuts. No, you really do have it. They said your slides are preserved in paraffin for eternity and any licensed MD can come look at them. You had stage three high grade embryonal cell carcinoma, Bud.
• 1:04:40
  So I had it, and when I went back, I got, and people, like I said, they come up after talks, if they don't want to change. They come up, I'd be signing books, and I'd say, did did you want a book? Nope. I just want you to know that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Okay?
• 1:05:00
  Alright. Well, thanks for coming. I mean, imagine if no one came tonight, I wouldn't have had any fun. And when they get madder yet, they turn around, walk out of the place, or that the gag I said about McDonald's and not going to heaven that I made that up. But the worst part of it is the delusion.
• 1:05:23
  Somebody will come up and they weigh three fifty pounds, and they'll say, I really enjoyed what you said tonight. I said, great. I've been on the program you're on for years, results you're looking for. But in my heart, I'm going, if you ate what I ate now, metabolisms are different, I get that. There are no skinny elephants in the world, but they're not gonna look like I look and be three hundred pounds.
• 1:06:02
  Mean, two and two is four, last I checked. So I do. Every time I speak, I can tell, oh, always walks out. Every time I'm doing, you know, anything over 40 or 50 people, somebody about two thirds, I don't know why it takes that long, about two thirds of the way through my thing, they're sitting there like this. And then they're talking to the person next to them.
• 1:06:27
  And then they see him get up and noisily walk out. Okay. As long as Bobby comes back and says, I I think Laetrile is a joke. I wouldn't feed it to my dog, but you have the right to try it. We're done.
• 1:06:51
  Give him some salary. First time I saw a Kennedy walk across the stage at the Trump inauguration, I practically wet my pants. I'm watching this. I went, is that is that what's going on? That's a bizarro world I live in now, and Christmas came early this year.
• 1:07:15
  So I hope we keep the house and senate for all four years just to give Bobby the time he needs to make enemies and try and stay alive. I mean, his family does not have the best history. Terrible. Terrible. So we're on the right track, Seth.
• 1:07:44
  You are on the right track. You are saving lives, and your viewers and listeners need to appreciate that and then not do what I told them, because I didn't tell them what to do. I told them what I did. If one of your people gets my phone number, calls me up and says, What should I do? Let me tell you what I did.
• 1:08:09
  Well, we know what you did. We watched that stupid video. Okay. Alright. Then you know what I think.
• 1:08:17
  More than that, I cannot say. Anything for me? I'd I'd wanna keep talking
• 1:08:24
  Seth: to No. This we're already over an hour. I mean, it's it's it's it's it's it's apparent that you've spoken a lot about this because you're very fluid, and you're talking. And it's easy to sit and listen to you because you're you're an entertaining storyteller, which is good.
• 1:08:38
  Rick Hill: Oh, good.
• 1:08:39
  Seth: Which is a good thing. I wanted to just just make sure that I got this right. So this is basically the what you had.
• 1:08:47
  Rick Hill: The liquid form.
• 1:08:48
  Seth: Exactly. Okay. Well, because you you were stage three, and and that's obviously it's you you treat it differently. Right? Right.
• 1:08:54
  If your backyard fire, goes a little run amok, you get a hose out. If if the forest is burning down, you're you're dropping water from a plane. Right? It's And then and then so just to also so this this is the location that you went to. It's just oasisofhope.com.
• 1:09:09
  So this is the place That's where went. To Iwana. It looks like it's probably grown a lot since then, which
• 1:09:14
  Rick Hill: is great. You think? Yeah. It's grown a lot. But there are let's say someone says, well, I don't really I don't wanna go to Mexico.
• 1:09:23
  I say, okay. Fine. We've got a doctor in Phoenix. Yeah. He will, when his schedule opens up enough, he will take you as a patient, and he will use these products in Phoenix, and he will treat you.
• 1:09:42
  And he's been doing it for twenty five years, and it's just astonishing to me. And if you go to cancerdoctor.com, for example, it's not my website, I'm not getting paid to say this, there's 50 doctors on there who are treating people. I think I went to a really good clinic, but it's somewhere on there it says, yeah, look at all the match. Yeah, there they are, top doctors. There is no shortage of people that are qualified and capable of treating people here in These United States.
• 1:10:30
  Seth: I got sick again and I don't answer the healing. Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Rick Hill: No. That's one that's in the Phoenix area.
• 1:10:36
  Seth: Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  Rick Hill: Yeah. Lodi is his name. Yep. Good guy, great clinic. But if I got sick again, I'd go back and see Doctor.
• 1:10:47
  Contreras. It's just why? Because I have the history, and they like me, and they gave me a gift.
• 1:10:58
  Seth: They gave you a reward. Yeah. An award. I can't
• 1:11:00
  Rick Hill: Gave me a reward for eating all that squishy food all those years. Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Seth: Well, this is great. Well, Rick, thank you for thank you for still being here. Thank you for fighting and and still being here, but also for being a voice for this. And that's I'm glad that you can approach this with humor and and more of a jovial attitude because it's such a scary topic, and it's so overwhelming. And Mhmm.
• 1:11:29
  You know, like, grew up in Columbus, Ohio, and you walk through the airport there, every single advertisement, cancer, cancer, cancer. Do you have cancer? Do you have cancer? Do you have heart disease? It's it's everywhere.
• 1:11:41
  It's every it's such a huge business. And the beautiful thing is is that it doesn't have to be insanely scary and 6 figure medical bills. Like, there's actually really, really affordable treatments. And what the great thing is, actually, lot of these things you can now get in America, whereas, you know, before you had to go down to Tijuana, but, you know, like I said, and this is just, you know, I know John's in America, right? So he's got the this, you know,
• 1:12:11
  Rick Hill: way to go for the rnc.com.
• 1:12:14
  Seth: Yeah, rncstore.com.
• 1:12:16
  Rick Hill: Like the one you're showing. The guy that's in our neighborhood is Doctor. Murphy. You can look him up, John, Jonathan Murphy, or you can go to cancerdoctor.com. Doctor.
• 1:12:26
  Lodi is on there. There's just some great people that I've met, Knealy. I'm not going to go through the list because I will have left out a bunch of people, but it is easily solvable if you will do what they ask you to do. It is a participatory medicine that demands, that depends on your cooperation. It is not someone who's going to do something to you, and you're just a bystander.
• 1:13:02
  Not like that. My life is not like it was fifty years ago. No. I do different things today, And that's what I want your viewers to get. Otherwise, take the money and take a cruise and eat everything that won't eat you first.
• 1:13:20
  At least you'll die happy. And and people use that argument. They'll say, no one lives forever. You know? I said, yeah.
• 1:13:30
  But I don't wanna be riding in agony the last twenty years of my life. Yeah. Or you're And I see these people that are on some of these treatments that they get their blood filtered and they get, oh, you know, and they're they can't walk. You ever see these people my I'm 74. You ever see people my age leaving the grocery store, Cart full of sugar, and they're leaning on the handle.
• 1:13:59
  Seth: Or they're more like the the electronic carts. They're sitting down with part of their body hanging over the sides of the seat.
• 1:14:07
  Rick Hill: I I went to a health conference two weeks ago, and I know you've had this happen. And the guy right in front of me got the middle seat. He spilled this far over both sides of the seat, that far. And here's these two guys sitting on either side going for three hours. How are you doing?
• 1:14:34
  I'm golly. And I and I'm not I'm trying not to be critical. Maybe they had a very difficult childhood. Maybe lots of things. But I do know this, that the god that I worship says, come unto me, all of you that are weak and heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
• 1:15:04
  In other words, I'll help you. I didn't go down there with a lot of faith. I went down there with fear and trembling. I said to my wife when she got actually, that back then, she got on the airplane to kiss me goodbye. Could you imagine that world?
• 1:15:25
  And we were both crying, and I said to her, I think it's a one way ticket. I didn't I didn't I really wasn't sure it would work, but I was willing to do what they asked. And that's all you can ask. Get Bobby to say yes and you to say, I'll try it. And I'll do it, not I'll try it.
• 1:15:52
  I'll do it. And and I think they're gonna be happy they know a guy named Seth. That's what I think.
• 1:16:01
  Seth: That's my hope. That's that's why I do this is to try to give people this information. I'm guessing CNN's not knocking your door down to have you come on and talk about the benefits of treating cancer outside of big pharma.
• 1:16:18
  Rick Hill: Not a word. Yeah. Not a single and I'm on Facebook, I get my stuff deleted from time to time, but I've never been what do they call it? Kicked off for any length of time. For one thing, I'm not bombastic.
• 1:16:35
  I don't say this will work. I just say, Hey, this is my fiftieth year of health. I didn't have to take chemo or radiation. Celebrate with me, I take that approach. The right person will look at that and go, what did he do?
• 1:16:52
  Well, he's on Facebook, we could message him. What do you think? Or they're members of your group. And they say, well, I did hear that guy. Let's contact Seth, find out how to get some of that stuff, and maybe we'll come to a conclusion for ourselves.
• 1:17:13
  Ralph Waldo Emerson called it self reliance. That's a missing thing today.
• 1:17:20
  Seth: Yeah. It is. It is. Well, Rick, I gotta wrap up now, but I really appreciate your Thank you for sharing your story with us. Just one final thing, the website rncstore.com.
• 1:17:36
  The promo code is just Seth, and your book is on there. There's all kinds of other stuff on there, but this is it's a great website, Good People, American. So it's against rncstore.com. I'll put that information in the show description as well. And Rick, thank you for just being a beacon of light and hope, and and, for, gracing us with your your presence and your your positive energy.
• 1:17:58
  It's it's refreshing.
• 1:17:59
  Rick Hill: Well, let's do this again.
• 1:18:01
  Seth: Sounds know, a year from now or whatever. That sounds good.
• 1:18:04
  Rick Hill: I have to be I was told by Jan, You're gonna love Seth. He's one of my favorites. I said, Well, okay. I'll be receptive and love Seth. But she said, You're a good friend, and she was happy to get the booking, and I was happy to get the booking.
• 1:18:24
  Imagine while I was here in this room all by myself.
• 1:18:27
  Seth: Not anymore.
• 1:18:28
  Rick Hill: Give me that program, but no one's looking. That'd be pretty discouraging.
• 1:18:34
  Seth: Yeah. Well, wonderful. I'm sure this this video will reach far and wide. I'm sure we will be hitting a lot of people with this information, which is important because we have to dispel the fear. That's that's key.
• 1:18:45
  Rick Hill: Yeah. Send me a copy of it when you're done.
• 1:18:48
  Seth: I will.
• 1:18:48
  Rick Hill: And I will post it on my Facebook account, and, you know, we'll do what we can Yes. To get the word out.
• 1:18:57
  Seth: Perfect. Well, Rick, thank you again. Take care, and God bless you.
• 1:19:01
  Rick Hill: Okay, Seth. Thank you. Bye bye. Do you
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