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Clydesdale Media Roundtable - It's Cat's Birthday and Dave Said What? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:24
  What's going on, everybody?
• 0:25
  Hello.
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  Welcome to the roundtable,
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  our weekly roundtable.
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  Cat's on a train.
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  Yes, I am.
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  Is it to celebrate your birthday?
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  No, it's a work trip.
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  Okay.
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  I'm traveling to an
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  undisclosed location for an
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  all-day meeting tomorrow.
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  Uh-huh.
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  I have a couple of guesses,
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  but I'll keep it off air.
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  Okay.
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  Yes, please do that.
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  Yes, I will.
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  You know,
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  my mom sent me a text today and she said,
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  she said, you're not 50 anymore.
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  I thought that was a good
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  way of looking at it.
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  I thought, yeah, you're right.
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  I'm not 50 anymore.
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  You're right.
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  Yeah.
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  You elevated.
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  Right.
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  That's 26.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  I wish.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't.
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  Anyone.
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  Anyone.
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  Nick,
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  I am in my work desk in my main floor
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  of my house.
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  I just didn't want to do the steps today.
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  So it makes it a lot easier.
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  It doesn't wear me out as much.
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  So this way I can do a show
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  where otherwise I probably
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  would have canceled.
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  So you get me for a week.
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  Nice.
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  Sorry, guys.
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  I didn't have time to go
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  into hair and makeup before
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  our podcast today, but...
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  because I've been I got up
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  at 3 30 and coached and
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  worked out and working and
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  all the things all the
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  things so you've been lazy
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  all day well I I'm already
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  at 10 000 steps and it is
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  12 30. so cool doing pretty
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  good nap in your future you
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  know that may or may not can you um
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  Good, OK, that may or may not happen.
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  My nap because I have to
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  come back for an event
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  tonight at the school so.
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  We'll see, but I am.
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  I am going to leave here and
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  go get a pedicure.
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  OK,
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  I have an important event this weekend
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  that need to be prepped.
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  And a gorgeous dress I did.
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  Cat has seen my dress is.
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  So I have to go to a charity
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  event with the hubby.
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  He's requiring eye candy,
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  so I have to get ready.
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  Speaking of toes, Scott,
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  can you pull up the picture
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  of my son's fractured toes?
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  Is it somewhere public?
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  On our tech street.
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  I sent it to you.
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  Yeah, I don't.
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  I can't hold it up from my phone.
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  No worries.
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  I could if I know how to do it.
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  We'll send it later.
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  Anyway.
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  Tell us what happened.
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  The big B, the power lifter guy, my son,
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  who's in Williamsburg now
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  at the College of William & Mary,
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  dropped a metal plate on
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  his foot at the gym.
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  And a compound fracture of the big toe,
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  fracture of the second toe, stitches,
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  and a boot for the next
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  four to six weeks.
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  And he was getting ready for the Arnold,
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  not as a competitor, just as a spectator,
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  because he wanted to look his best.
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  So now he sent me a text yesterday.
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  He said,
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  hobbling around with mama at the Arnold.
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  That's right.
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  That's what we'll be doing.
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  Poor kid.
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  So, yeah, but it was this first big boy,
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  like go to urgent care, you know,
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  figure it out for yourself
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  kind of a thing where you had to get,
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  you know, supplies and.
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  I don't know how you spell toe,
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  but that ain't it.
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  Not that kind of toe.
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  I'm trying to hurry.
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  Are you going to toe the toe?
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  I'm just curious.
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  But we need an update on you, Scott,
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  after you get this.
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  So we'll ask Charlie.
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  Charlie.
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  What?
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  You worked out today.
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  I did.
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  It was not pleasant.
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  How'd those 50 clean drinks feel for you?
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  Terrible.
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  I feel like I've never
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  worked out in my life.
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  Hey, thanks for the tip.
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  I did stick with 85,
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  and I felt really good.
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  Good.
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  But 85 was what I could do.
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  It was five clean jerks every minute.
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  Oh, wow.
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  But we've been doing it for, like,
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  four weeks.
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  So, like,
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  it's not like I just started out
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  this time, but it's still.
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  It hasn't gotten any better
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  in the other four weeks.
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  You haven't gotten any better?
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  No.
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  I am.
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  I'm dropping into a box
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  tonight before dinner.
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  So I will let you know how it goes.
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  It's my first CrossFit
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  workout in a very long time.
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  Good.
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  Right in time for the Open.
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  I'm training.
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  It's day one.
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  All right, Scott.
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  How are you feeling today?
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  So I feel better every day.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not anywhere near where I want to be.
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  You look better.
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  Yeah, you do.
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  Mostly because you shaved.
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  And my voice is better.
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  But, yeah, it's still, like,
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  I'm really winded, especially on stairs,
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  getting around the house.
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  Yesterday,
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  I drove myself to Delaware to
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  have my EKG done.
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  I probably should have had
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  Julie do it after I kind of
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  got in the middle of it and
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  was kind of stuck.
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  So...
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  But there it is.
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  Just waiting on next steps,
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  waiting for the call from
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  the doctor to set up an
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  appointment to shock my
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  heart back into rhythm.
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  I've had a lot of people
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  reach out to me who've had
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  the procedure done,
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  said it's really quick and easy,
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  and they feel like 100
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  times better right after it's done.
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  So the other complications
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  around everything are
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  starting to come into...
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  into form.
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  My sugar is down consistently,
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  not completely where we need it to be,
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  but way less than 380.
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  My heart rate,
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  I started wearing the watch
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  again so I could track that.
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  It's all over the map.
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  And that's really the AFib.
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  And it's funny,
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  sometimes I'll look at my
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  heart rate and while I'm looking at it,
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  it bounces 20 beats per minute
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  Wow.
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  Like all like in 15 seconds,
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  it'll have 10 different readings.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, so it's pretty crazy, but, um,
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  other than that, I'm getting better.
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  I'm eating better.
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  Um, yeah, let's hear that.
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  How's nutrition today?
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  Nutrition today is good.
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  Um, got up, had some eggs, uh,
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  some Turkey sausage and
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  some Dave's killer bread.
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  Uh, cause I'm,
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  I'm struggling getting fiber in.
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  Um, and I,
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  the Dave's killer bread really
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  ramps up the fiber and it
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  gives you a little bit of protein.
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  Those are two things I'm falling short of.
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  Um, but yeah, I have a recommendation for,
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  for fiber.
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  It's a cereal.
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  It has like 44 grams of
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  fiber in like a half a cup of cereal.
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  Not a lot of calories.
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  Delicious in some skim milk
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  or almond milk.
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  It was recommended by a guy
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  that did Mike's colonoscopy.
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  And he said that's the best way to do it.
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  He said fiber supplements, no bueno.
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  This is like the best bang for your buck.
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  So if you can tolerate it.
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  Don't go crazy and like eat
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  four cups in one day
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  because you'll be sorry.
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  But...
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  Cheryl's the one that's
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  talking me into getting more fiber in.
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  We're doing a show today at four,
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  but I'll try that.
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  I'll try anything right now.
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  And she does not want me supplementing.
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  Yeah.
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  It's funny you brought up colonoscopy.
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  I just got a message today.
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  I've got to schedule mine.
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  time you know what I've
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  heard it's the best sleep
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  of your life so I'm
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  actually I'm all in for
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  that it's true fine that
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  has to be put a camera up
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  there as long as I can
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  sleep good as long as you
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  don't wake up in the middle
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  of it I won't uh so
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  christopher alford says how
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  does the killer bread taste
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  I actually like it better
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  than regular bread
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  It has nuts and seeds in it.
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  I think it has way more flavor.
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  It is more dense than a regular bread.
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  So it's hard to make like a
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  sandwich out of it.
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  But just for like a piece of toast,
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  it's fine.
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  Chris, Christopher,
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  are you talking about after
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  the colonoscopy?
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  After I have the best sleep ever,
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  I'm going to have so much gas afterwards.
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  Oh, my God.
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  Great.
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  Scott, after you get...
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  back, your heart shocked,
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  can you then do you think start exercise?
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  So I don't know.
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  I've got to talk to doctors
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  and kind of see where that's at.
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  I've talked to some people
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  who have gone back to full
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  CrossFit workouts.
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  I've talked to others that say CrossFit,
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  the way it affects your heart,
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  it's not good for someone
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  with AFib or who has ever had AFib.
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  And they've modified it to
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  something a little bit different.
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  Yeah.
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  But again,
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  I'll have discussions with
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  people that I trust.
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  I'm in communication with
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  Pat and Christy about all
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  this and everything that's
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  going on back and forth.
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  So my hope is to get back to
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  full CrossFit.
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  Sure.
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  Well, yeah,
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  just I'm just thinking any kind
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  of movement with general
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  health and your body
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  healing and that kind of stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Good thing is we're getting
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  close to spring and I've
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  got a garage gym so I can
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  move and you have all the tools.
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  Yeah.
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  Yep.
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  So what's happening in the CrossFit world?
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  There's so much.
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  I don't even know if we'll
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  get through it all because
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  I didn't get your take.
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  First of all, let's start with Mal.
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  Mal announcing she's not competing.
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  Okay.
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  she's not doing the open your thoughts.
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  Not surprised.
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  I think that that was to be expected.
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  Um,
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  I think she is enjoying her life and
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  that she hasn't really had
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  any balance yet.
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  And I think she's somebody
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  that I think she's active.
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  Um, and I think she's just honestly,
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  I mean, I know,
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  I don't want to say being a
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  kid cause she's, I mean, an adult now,
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  but kind of being a kid again,
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  like she's just,
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  taken some pressure off of herself.
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  And so I think it's great.
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  And if she wants to come back or even,
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  you know, come back,
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  but not be an elite athlete, you know,
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  just, I think it's fine.
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  Not surprised.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't care if she ever comes back.
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  I don't think that's important.
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  I'd be surprised if she doesn't.
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  I'd be surprised if she doesn't.
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  She's so talented.
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  I agree.
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  I agree.
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  Yeah,
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  she's definitely got the talent and I
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  think she's,
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  she had that competitive vibe,
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  but I think that, yeah,
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  she was training at such a high level for,
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  you know,
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  starting so young that I think it's, yeah,
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  she's looks like she's really, you know,
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  she's got the boyfriend, she's in Hawaii,
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  like living it, living her best life.
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  Uh, Nick, yes,
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  I am wearing the watch at
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  sleep as while I'm sleeping
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  to track that.
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  Just so you know.
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  Did you see they've
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  announced the two locations
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  for 24-1 and 24-2?
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  24-1 is at CrossFit
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  Pleasanton in California,
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  and CrossFit in Open
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  Announcement 2 is going to
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  be at the Shred Shed at
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  Justin Medaris' estate.
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  But in that announcement,
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  when Medaris talked about it,
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  he leaked part of the workout.
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  How does he even know?
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  you know,
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  supposedly the athletes do not
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  know what the workouts are,
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  but he makes a statement
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  where they couldn't do one
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  of the workouts at the
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  shred shed because they
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  didn't have enough room for lunges.
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  So it could be one of those workouts.
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  So someone is telling
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  Madaris that there are
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  lunges in a workout.
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  Yeah.
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  So this whole facade that
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  the athletes don't know
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  what they're getting into?
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  I need clarification.
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  Let's get Boz on here.
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  So my question to you is,
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  as the CrossFit HQ team,
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  do you scramble and change the workout?
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  It sounds like they already
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  knew that people knew the movement.
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  So you're saying scrambled
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  for our benefit?
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  To hide the fact that they
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  leaked some of the
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  movements to the athletes.
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  I mean,
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  I think it's annoying that they leaked,
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  but at the end of the day,
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  they still have to perform it.
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  It's the open.
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  Yeah, it's the open.
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  I mean,
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  you can do it multiple times anyway.
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  And they're not going to not make it.
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  Right.
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  Because the theater did not know.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I know what it is.
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  That doesn't mean I'm going
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  to do any better.
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  Right.
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  Yeah, it's definitely shuttle runs.
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  There are definitely shuttle
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  runs up in here.
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  We've heard of athletes say
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  that they believe that
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  sometimes athletes get an
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  advantage and not just at the open level.
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  So I just find it fascinating.
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  I think it's something to watch.
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  Let's see what comes out.
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  What advantage do you get by knowing?
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  That you practice it?
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  Unless it's a movement that
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  you've never done or
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  they've never done before,
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  I don't see how you get a... I mean,
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  if they're like,
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  we're going to do 50-foot lunges, okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean,
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  just knowing what some of the
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  components are maybe isn't
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  that much of an advantage.
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  I mean,
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  we pretty much know what all the
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  workouts are going to entail anyway,
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  to a certain extent.
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  If they're talking about burpees.
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  Okay.
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  Now you practice a little bit.
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  I mean,
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  do we think they leave the entire workout,
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  the details, or just, hey,
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  you need space to lunge?
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  I don't think it matters in the open.
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  I don't think it matters in the open.
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  I think, though, it does lead...
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  lend credence to people like
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  in the 22 games,
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  people knew about the
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  crossovers before the games
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  and others didn't.
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  So some were prepared with
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  the right rope and some were not.
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  Yeah,
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  it definitely is a slippery slope and
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  it leads people to think what, you know,
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  if that's happening,
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  what else is happening?
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  I agree with you there.
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  Right.
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  So I just,
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  I'm anxious to see what the
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  reaction of reaction to this is.
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  So CrossFit has not come out
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  and said anything after that?
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  No.
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  Not that I've seen.
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  But speaking of open announcements,
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  Dave Castro in his week in
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  review made two statements
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  that I found very fascinating.
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  One is he will be doing the
• 16:44
  very first announcement himself.
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  People have been asking for
• 16:49
  him to come back and do that.
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  And he is getting two people
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  to do the other two that
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  are not really directly
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  affiliated with the CrossFit space,
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  but are indirectly into CrossFit.
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  Like Jocko?
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  Who?
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  Yeah,
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  I'm thinking that or like a celebrity
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  that does it.
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  Hunter Sharon.
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  Kevin Hart.
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  I don't know.
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  He did not say.
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  He said they would be announced soon.
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  But I think that's going to
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  be interesting because
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  everybody's been clamoring for Dave.
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  But I think it'd be
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  interesting someone outside the space.
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  What do they bring to the table?
• 17:34
  Tom Brady.
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  Chris Pratt.
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  I asked Dave who was doing his...
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  his reals for him and he
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  said some local kid that he
• 17:48
  was paying some local kid
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  to do it and you're like
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  where's my money and I
• 17:52
  wanted to be like okay did
• 17:57
  my invoice not get to you I
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  didn't I asked him I sent
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  him a note one time and
• 18:01
  just said hey instead of
• 18:02
  paying me could you give me
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  like a scholarship to an l1
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  because I'd like to take it
• 18:05
  again and they got no
• 18:06
  response so is that the tb
• 18:11
  is mom brady yes
• 18:14
  No way he believes in CrossFit.
• 18:18
  Well, no.
• 18:22
  You're right.
• 18:22
  You're right.
• 18:24
  You're right.
• 18:24
  So the other thing he said
• 18:26
  is that he was asked about,
• 18:29
  does he miss doing all the
• 18:31
  programming for the games?
• 18:33
  And he said that last year when he came in,
• 18:36
  it was last minute and he
• 18:37
  was more in an advisor role,
• 18:39
  giving his input,
• 18:40
  giving his stuff this year.
• 18:43
  He's played the same role
• 18:44
  for the open through semis,
• 18:47
  but he got sucked in to the
• 18:50
  games programming and he's
• 18:53
  actually taking part in the
• 18:54
  creative aspect of games programming.
• 19:00
  What do you think that means
• 19:02
  for the programming?
• 19:03
  at the games?
• 19:08
  I don't know.
• 19:11
  So he's, is he, hmm.
• 19:18
  So Boz and Dave essentially
• 19:21
  doing it together or Dave's
• 19:24
  just advising?
• 19:28
  So he said advising up through semis.
• 19:31
  Okay.
• 19:31
  But he's actually putting
• 19:33
  together the schedule for
• 19:35
  the games himself in like the next week.
• 19:40
  Okay.
• 19:41
  So I don't know if that
• 19:42
  means doing it with Boz or.
• 19:45
  Right.
• 19:46
  Or maybe Boz is advising him.
• 19:49
  Maybe Dave's drafting some
• 19:52
  workouts and then Boz is
• 19:53
  going to fine tune them.
• 19:56
  Yeah.
• 19:56
  He,
• 19:57
  he said he got sucked into the creative
• 19:58
  process of like coming up
• 20:01
  with the workouts.
• 20:03
  Yeah.
• 20:03
  So I think it's been shown
• 20:06
  that Boz and Dave program differently.
• 20:08
  Yeah.
• 20:10
  And so I think,
• 20:11
  I think it'd be cool if
• 20:12
  they both were part of the
• 20:14
  creative process and both
• 20:16
  did a little bit of it.
• 20:17
  So you get a little flavor of each.
• 20:19
  And then I think it's even more well,
• 20:21
  well-rounded than the past.
• 20:23
  Um,
• 20:26
  So I don't know.
• 20:27
  Yeah,
• 20:28
  I think it could be a nice benefit to
• 20:33
  really see them kind of... Oh,
• 20:35
  Kat lost connection.
• 20:37
  To see them both... I think they're both,
• 20:39
  yeah,
• 20:39
  creative in their own... But they
• 20:42
  both have their own kind of
• 20:45
  processes on how to do it.
• 20:47
  And that could be another
• 20:49
  cool collaboration.
• 20:50
  And maybe it is Boz advising it this time.
• 20:55
  Versus the other way around.
• 20:57
  Yeah.
• 20:58
  One thing that I've always
• 20:59
  appreciated with Dave is the show, right?
• 21:02
  You get,
• 21:03
  it's clear to see who's winning
• 21:05
  because of the way he designs a workout.
• 21:07
  And I don't think anybody
• 21:08
  has done it as well as him since, um,
• 21:12
  from being at a lot of events.
• 21:14
  Um,
• 21:14
  and I know that it goes into my finish
• 21:16
  line rant that I always have,
• 21:19
  but dramatic with all that, what, what I,
• 21:23
  um,
• 21:24
  What I find fascinating,
• 21:26
  and I think I lost my train
• 21:28
  of thought here,
• 21:29
  is that in the behind the
• 21:34
  scenes that came out this year,
• 21:38
  and it's now coming out for free.
• 21:40
  I think they're on episode three now.
• 21:43
  It's out for free.
• 21:46
  So go check that out.
• 21:47
  But at one point,
• 21:49
  Brian Friend calls Dave out
• 21:51
  on the sidelines at the games that
• 21:55
  somebody was allowed to do
• 21:56
  something that and it was
• 21:57
  Justin Madaris did not
• 22:00
  advance his sandbag or
• 22:03
  whatever to the place that needed to be.
• 22:06
  And it gave him an advantage
• 22:08
  because everybody else had
• 22:10
  to carry that sandbag, like 15 feet,
• 22:13
  and he did not.
• 22:15
  And
• 22:17
  Those are things that if
• 22:19
  Dave knew they were going on,
• 22:20
  because he lost it.
• 22:23
  When he found out it was 15 feet,
• 22:25
  he's like, yeah,
• 22:25
  that's a distinct advantage.
• 22:27
  And that can't happen.
• 22:28
  And it's a really cool interaction.
• 22:31
  And those are the things you
• 22:32
  get in behind the scenes that...
• 22:36
  that seven can only get
• 22:37
  because of his relationship with Dave.
• 22:39
  Sure.
• 22:40
  Right.
• 22:40
  Yeah.
• 22:41
  Right.
• 22:41
  Yeah.
• 22:42
  Um,
• 22:43
  some of the stuff I think any anybody
• 22:46
  can get, but those little moments, um,
• 22:49
  were really good.
• 22:50
  And, um,
• 22:52
  and I think that's what Dave will
• 22:54
  bring in the creativity is like,
• 22:57
  there will be a penalty for
• 22:59
  someone who doesn't execute
• 23:01
  it the way it should be.
• 23:03
  Yeah.
• 23:06
  So the other thing I didn't
• 23:13
  get your opinion on that I
• 23:15
  would love is Masters and
• 23:19
  Teens going on the same
• 23:20
  weekend and Wheel WOD and
• 23:24
  Waterpalooza California
• 23:26
  going on the same weekend.
• 23:28
  Are we killing the age
• 23:32
  groups and adaptives
• 23:34
  before we even let them get started.
• 23:40
  I think you are the adaptives,
• 23:44
  not the age groups.
• 23:49
  If people know both are on a weekend,
• 23:53
  you can kind of watch both.
• 23:55
  Unless you're talking about
• 23:56
  going to the events then.
• 23:59
  Well,
• 23:59
  you won't be able to go to the events,
• 24:00
  but will they be live streaming?
• 24:05
  none of that's known at this point.
• 24:06
  Right.
• 24:07
  And I think that's, I mean, I don't,
• 24:11
  I don't know.
• 24:11
  I think we,
• 24:12
  I think we have to wait and see.
• 24:13
  I don't think we can answer
• 24:14
  that question until we see it put in.
• 24:19
  How many masters athletes do
• 24:22
  you know that are coaches
• 24:24
  of a teen athlete?
• 24:28
  So I think that's,
• 24:29
  that's a big thing that got
• 24:30
  missed because,
• 24:31
  Because how many mothers and
• 24:34
  kids or fathers and kids
• 24:38
  are in the masters and teens?
• 24:40
  Because you know, Amy,
• 24:42
  your whole family goes to CrossFit.
• 24:43
  You know what I mean?
• 24:46
  And the adult's going to give in.
• 24:48
  They're going to go to the teens.
• 24:55
  I know there aren't that many, Andrew,
• 24:57
  but it
• 25:02
  So example, Rudy Berger,
• 25:04
  two-time CrossFit Games champion.
• 25:07
  His daughter is really, really fit.
• 25:09
  Yeah.
• 25:10
  And I think she just aged in.
• 25:13
  She just aged in to the teen division.
• 25:17
  If she makes the teen games, I know Rudy.
• 25:20
  He's not going to go for himself.
• 25:22
  He's going to go for her.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:26
  And when you lose a two-time champ,
• 25:29
  then that sucks.
• 25:31
  It sucks for the growth of your sport.
• 25:37
  Yeah, and it's not in close proximity,
• 25:40
  the location.
• 25:41
  No.
• 25:41
  Yeah.
• 25:44
  Carolyn was on with us Thursday night.
• 25:46
  Why aren't they just together?
• 25:48
  Why aren't those two,
• 25:51
  the whole age group thing in one venue?
• 25:54
  You're only adding four age
• 25:56
  groups from the teens to the master's.
• 26:03
  And then you're saving on
• 26:05
  one venue instead of two,
• 26:07
  one set of judges,
• 26:10
  one set of event coordinators.
• 26:14
  Well, again,
• 26:15
  I say we got to see how it plays out.
• 26:20
  So, yeah.
• 26:27
  So there's that.
• 26:29
  Have you guys been watching
• 26:34
  any of the Hill or Athena thing?
• 26:37
  I have.
• 26:38
  I have been watching some of that,
• 26:42
  although one of the
• 26:42
  episodes was two hours long.
• 26:43
  That is just way too long to be consuming.
• 26:47
  I told Athena I listened to
• 26:49
  her no slower than 1.5 speed.
• 26:53
  But you were you were on there.
• 26:57
  They were talking about you.
• 26:58
  It was very nice of them, what they said.
• 27:01
  And they said he was going
• 27:04
  to call you on there or something.
• 27:07
  But I...
• 27:10
  My question to you is not about me.
• 27:12
  It's about some of the
• 27:14
  interactions between them.
• 27:16
  I find it fascinating.
• 27:18
  I love, so they did a video,
• 27:20
  a Hiller video together.
• 27:22
  I don't know if you've seen it yet.
• 27:23
  It's about Sporty Beth.
• 27:25
  It's on my list to watch today.
• 27:27
  So it is really, really good.
• 27:29
  And what I loved about it is
• 27:32
  that Hiller makes his
• 27:34
  claims and Athena questions
• 27:36
  why he's making the claim.
• 27:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:39
  like right there in the moment.
• 27:42
  And then they talk it
• 27:43
  through and it gives it like a,
• 27:45
  a completely different perspective.
• 27:48
  Then what I love overall
• 27:51
  about it is you have Athena,
• 27:53
  a larger bodied athlete,
• 27:54
  you have sporty Beth,
• 27:55
  a larger bodied athlete,
• 27:57
  two completely different
• 27:58
  perspectives on how things should be.
• 28:00
  Yeah.
• 28:02
  And to see that contrast was really,
• 28:04
  really good.
• 28:07
  think that hillar and athena
• 28:08
  have magic going on right
• 28:09
  now I i agree um I'm loving
• 28:13
  how they're talking things
• 28:14
  out meaning like she gets a
• 28:16
  text and and reads it one
• 28:18
  way right and then she
• 28:21
  talks to him about it he's
• 28:22
  like that's not at all what
• 28:23
  I meant by that and so like
• 28:25
  just seeing that kind of
• 28:26
  displayed I think it's
• 28:27
  helpful for a lot of people
• 28:29
  too because I think it also is you
• 28:31
  you know,
• 28:31
  maybe kind of reviewing some of
• 28:33
  her self-talk,
• 28:34
  which is important that she's expressing,
• 28:37
  you know, like if she's thinking, oh,
• 28:38
  he called me a foodie.
• 28:39
  He thinks I'm fat or,
• 28:40
  you know what I mean?
• 28:41
  Versus no, he's just saying, you know,
• 28:43
  a lot about food, like in gourmet stuff.
• 28:47
  They,
• 28:47
  they did a whole piece on yesterday's
• 28:49
  show about miscommunication
• 28:52
  and that they had to go to
• 28:52
  the whiteboard because she
• 28:54
  actually spent the weekend with them.
• 28:55
  Yeah.
• 28:56
  And they went to the
• 28:57
  whiteboard to kind of map
• 28:59
  out the communication and
• 29:01
  And Hiller was all about
• 29:03
  what he was trying to get
• 29:04
  into her head was you have
• 29:06
  a goal and that goal is weight loss.
• 29:08
  So your goal is not CrossFit.
• 29:13
  Are you,
• 29:14
  I'm going to write to something to
• 29:15
  cat on here, but go ahead.
• 29:17
  Okay.
• 29:20
  So, um, they,
• 29:23
  they mapped it all out and here, what it,
• 29:28
  I lost track on that, but he wanted,
• 29:30
  he said, your goal is not CrossFit.
• 29:32
  Your goal is weight loss.
• 29:34
  So like you shouldn't have,
• 29:37
  basically you shouldn't
• 29:38
  have CrossFit goals like a
• 29:39
  deadlift total or a pull-up
• 29:43
  or a box jump.
• 29:45
  It's not your goal.
• 29:46
  Your goal is to lose weight.
• 29:49
  And the other stuff is fluff.
• 29:50
  And you don't want to get
• 29:51
  like wrapped up in that.
• 29:55
  And
• 29:56
  Athena said,
• 29:56
  I want to work on my strength.
• 29:58
  So I want to try for the box jump.
• 30:00
  I want to try for.
• 30:02
  And their miscommunication was that.
• 30:07
  Athena was saying she needed
• 30:09
  emotional and mental
• 30:11
  strength of overcoming these obstacles.
• 30:14
  And Hiller thought she meant
• 30:17
  strength is in muscle.
• 30:19
  Yeah.
• 30:20
  And it really threw them off.
• 30:24
  their course and they had to
• 30:25
  map all this out,
• 30:27
  which I found extremely
• 30:29
  fascinating from a
• 30:31
  perspective where I've been.
• 30:36
  No,
• 30:38
  most people don't know how to
• 30:39
  effectively communicate.
• 30:41
  That includes with their partner,
• 30:43
  with a coworker, just family members.
• 30:47
  And so I think it takes
• 30:49
  practice learning how to
• 30:51
  communicate effectively to number one,
• 30:54
  do it in a respectful way
• 30:55
  when you misunderstand or
• 30:58
  don't understand and to
• 31:00
  keep your intentions like
• 31:02
  assuming positive intent.
• 31:05
  you know, in a situation like this, like,
• 31:07
  you know, but I wrote on here too,
• 31:10
  because Kat was talking
• 31:11
  about conversations.
• 31:13
  And in my hallway,
• 31:14
  in my building right now is
• 31:16
  a quote that says, in times of conflict,
• 31:18
  increase communication.
• 31:20
  And I think that's just important.
• 31:21
  The more, if you're not understanding,
• 31:23
  that means you need to keep
• 31:24
  talking and keep
• 31:25
  communicating until you can
• 31:26
  figure it out.
• 31:28
  Yes, Kenneth.
• 31:32
  The other thing that I found
• 31:33
  interesting in the episode yesterday was,
• 31:36
  and it came from the Sporty Beth thing,
• 31:39
  that she could do pull-ups
• 31:41
  and that she wanted to,
• 31:48
  she's scaling that because
• 31:49
  of her pregnancy,
• 31:50
  some different things like that.
• 31:52
  And Athena has like a really
• 31:54
  big issue with that.
• 31:57
  Because there's an
• 31:57
  assumption that everybody
• 31:59
  can do pull-ups.
• 32:01
  And she's like,
• 32:02
  for the person that's
• 32:03
  coming down from like 500 pounds,
• 32:07
  you never learn the mechanics, right?
• 32:10
  Because you were never in
• 32:12
  the right body type to get it.
• 32:15
  So your struggle to learn a
• 32:17
  pull-up is much harder than
• 32:19
  someone that was skinny,
• 32:20
  learn the pull-up and then
• 32:22
  got heavy because they
• 32:26
  they learn the mechanics at
• 32:27
  one point in time.
• 32:28
  So those are ingrained into your body.
• 32:31
  And so there was a talk
• 32:33
  about like learning things
• 32:35
  as you're going up in
• 32:36
  weight and learning things
• 32:38
  as you're coming down in
• 32:38
  weight and how the,
• 32:40
  how much the difference is.
• 32:43
  Um,
• 32:44
  and that that's not always understood
• 32:46
  by CrossFit coaches in her opinion.
• 32:49
  Hmm.
• 32:54
  Okay.
• 32:55
  Oh, okay.
• 33:00
  I'm considering that processing it.
• 33:03
  Yeah.
• 33:05
  I mean,
• 33:05
  I'm all about foundations and building.
• 33:07
  So that's why that's,
• 33:08
  I'm trying to process
• 33:08
  looking at it from both perspectives.
• 33:12
  Yeah.
• 33:13
  I can say like, when I learned to pull up,
• 33:16
  like...
• 33:23
  Yes, I needed to start way earlier,
• 33:24
  because clearly.
• 33:27
  You're so close.
• 33:29
  Those last videos.
• 33:30
  It's my hip drive, guys.
• 33:33
  Like, you're close to a strict.
• 33:36
  I know.
• 33:38
  That's what I've been focusing on,
• 33:40
  is doing the strict.
• 33:41
  Like,
• 33:42
  I haven't even really been attempting
• 33:44
  the other stuff.
• 33:45
  But it's just gotten better
• 33:46
  because of my strength.
• 33:49
  So when I,
• 33:49
  when I went from 500 to 260 and
• 33:52
  I learned to pull up like,
• 33:54
  like it was a lot of bands
• 33:56
  and a lot of like trying to
• 33:58
  get rid of bands.
• 34:00
  Yeah.
• 34:00
  But even when I got it,
• 34:02
  it was the most important
• 34:04
  factor was still losing more weight.
• 34:06
  Like it was always, it was always lighter.
• 34:12
  You get the easier they'll get.
• 34:15
  Right.
• 34:16
  And it wasn't necessarily
• 34:17
  about mechanics because
• 34:19
  hanging two 60 from meat
• 34:21
  hooks is still not easy on
• 34:24
  the shoulders to work a lot on mechanics.
• 34:29
  Yeah.
• 34:29
  But I think both need to happen.
• 34:34
  Well, I don't disagree.
• 34:36
  I'm just,
• 34:37
  it has its own difficulties is
• 34:39
  all she was pointing out.
• 34:43
  So we're, we're yeah.
• 34:48
  but I'm going to go watch that one.
• 34:49
  It's on my list today after my pedicure,
• 34:51
  maybe before my nap,
• 34:52
  before I come back to work.
• 34:55
  It's an hour 30.
• 34:55
  It's an hour 30.
• 34:57
  So definitely 1.5.
• 34:59
  I'll put it on.
• 35:00
  Yeah.
• 35:05
  The last thing we want to talk about is,
• 35:07
  I don't know if you guys saw this.
• 35:09
  I have it pulled up.
• 35:10
  So I'm going to share my
• 35:11
  screen real quick.
• 35:19
  So this is Myra Brandt.
• 35:23
  She made this post just a
• 35:26
  few days ago talking about
• 35:28
  how due to health concerns,
• 35:30
  she was not going to be
• 35:30
  able to compete in the 2024 season.
• 35:33
  She's a training think tank athlete.
• 35:36
  She competed at the games
• 35:37
  three times in 2017, 18 and 22.
• 35:43
  She made this post and just
• 35:45
  a day or two later passed
• 35:47
  away from the complication.
• 35:50
  And with everything that
• 35:52
  I've gone through in the
• 35:53
  last week and a half,
• 35:55
  like life's short and
• 36:00
  squeeze the ones around you
• 36:02
  you love and hold on to
• 36:03
  your friends because you
• 36:05
  don't know when it's time.
• 36:08
  And it made, man, I'm tearing up now
• 36:13
  Going through everything I'm going through,
• 36:15
  it just made it really, really hard.
• 36:19
  Kat, we don't know.
• 36:20
  They said something about that she,
• 36:23
  on her original post,
• 36:23
  she said something about
• 36:24
  she was needing to have
• 36:25
  surgery and recover.
• 36:27
  And then it was
• 36:28
  complications of her
• 36:29
  surgery that caused her death.
• 36:34
  That's all the details that
• 36:35
  are released about it right now.
• 36:40
  So.
• 36:41
  yeah I know I know our paths
• 36:43
  have crossed um I've been
• 36:45
  to enough masters events um
• 36:48
  legends did a tribute to
• 36:49
  her that was the training
• 36:51
  think tank um uh thing to
• 36:55
  her tribute to her um and
• 36:58
  for all accounts she always
• 36:59
  had a big smile she was
• 37:01
  also an affiliate owner um
• 37:04
  and mom and so yeah our
• 37:08
  hearts go out to her and her family
• 37:10
  And all of our friends down
• 37:11
  there at Training Think Tank,
• 37:14
  we're with you.
• 37:14
  I know it's got to be hard.
• 37:18
  And if there's anything we
• 37:19
  can do from a distance,
• 37:21
  please let us know.
• 37:22
  But, yeah, really sad story.
• 37:26
  Yes.
• 37:29
  For sure.
• 37:32
  So just not to finish on a sad note,
• 37:34
  we want to wish our very own catch here.
• 37:37
  Happy birthday.
• 37:39
  She's no longer 50.
• 37:40
  She's no longer 50.
• 37:44
  So hope she has a good day on the train.
• 37:51
  Let us know about your dropping experience,
• 37:53
  Kat.
• 37:57
  Yep.
• 37:57
  And we'll continue to do
• 37:59
  these even with everything
• 38:01
  I'm going through,
• 38:02
  as long as I can do it from my work desk.
• 38:05
  hopefully we'll eventually
• 38:06
  get back down to the pod
• 38:07
  center after we get this
• 38:09
  thing shocked back.
• 38:11
  But with that, you guys got anything else?
• 38:16
  No, no, no, no kids visiting Amy.
• 38:20
  No,
• 38:20
  I did have a kid visit over the weekend
• 38:22
  and then she refused to
• 38:24
  take the bus back home.
• 38:26
  So we had to drive her back home.
• 38:28
  So that was a fun,
• 38:30
  extra three hours out of my
• 38:31
  day that we weren't planning on a Sunday.
• 38:35
  But I didn't have to work
• 38:35
  yesterday because it was a holiday,
• 38:36
  so that's good.
• 38:38
  The go bus?
• 38:39
  Yeah.
• 38:42
  Yeah.
• 38:42
  Corey would refuse.
• 38:45
  Well, next time,
• 38:46
  this is how clearly we
• 38:47
  communicated this time.
• 38:49
  We said, next time you choose to come home,
• 38:51
  before you come home,
• 38:52
  we're going to have a plan
• 38:53
  of how you will be returning to school.
• 38:58
  So that we don't get into this
• 39:01
  Well, she had a plan.
• 39:04
  Yeah.
• 39:04
  And she had a bus ticket
• 39:06
  because we told her to do a
• 39:08
  bus ticket and then there
• 39:09
  was some guilting and her
• 39:10
  dad drove her back.
• 39:11
  So that's easy.
• 39:13
  That's easy.
• 39:13
  Yeah.
• 39:14
  Yeah.
• 39:16
  Yeah.
• 39:16
  We, uh,
• 39:17
  we went through the same things and, uh,
• 39:21
  eventually it was,
• 39:22
  if you want to come home,
• 39:23
  you are taking the bus back, um,
• 39:26
  or you're stuck your choice.
• 39:29
  Yep.
• 39:30
  That's, that's what we're going to do.
• 39:32
  That's the,
• 39:34
  we're going to lay down the
• 39:36
  expectation prior.
• 39:39
  It's only a 90 minute bus ride.
• 39:42
  Oh no.
• 39:42
  Oh, she thought it was more.
• 39:45
  She was because it makes stops.
• 39:49
  Like one.
• 39:50
  Yeah.
• 39:51
  She's fine.
• 39:52
  But, and I told her, I was like,
• 39:55
  it's 90 minutes for you,
• 39:56
  but it's three hours out of our day.
• 40:00
  It's not a bad drive.
• 40:01
  It really isn't, but you know,
• 40:02
  it's... I'd rather stay if
• 40:05
  I'm driving there.
• 40:08
  Nothing so bad about it, Kenneth.
• 40:10
  It's just them... I don't know.
• 40:13
  Wanted to bust our balls.
• 40:16
  Alright,
• 40:17
  I gotta go get this pedicure so I
• 40:19
  can get into hair and makeup.
• 40:20
  Just gotta.
• 40:21
  Just gotta get there.
• 40:22
  I do.
• 40:24
  Ridiculous.
• 40:26
  My toes are gonna be showing.
• 40:29
  Where?
• 40:29
  Where?
• 40:30
  At the charity event I'm going to Friday.
• 40:33
  Well, they got closed-toed shoes.
• 40:35
  No.
• 40:36
  Not for this.
• 40:37
  Can't be eye candy with closed-toed shoes.
• 40:41
  See?
• 40:42
  You're right.
• 40:44
  I know why you're not
• 40:45
  wearing closed-toed shoes.
• 40:46
  You don't want that
• 40:47
  perception out there anymore.
• 40:52
  I'm trying to sell feet pics,
• 40:53
  so I need my feet to look good.
• 40:55
  I have to do advertising.
• 40:58
  Now you're talking.
• 40:59
  Get them done.
• 41:00
  There we go.
• 41:01
  Charlie,
• 41:02
  you talking about she doesn't want
• 41:03
  to put out the vibes like
• 41:05
  she did in Madison?
• 41:06
  Correct.
• 41:10
  We got stories to talk about that later.
• 41:13
  All right.
• 41:14
  Okay.
• 41:14
  With that, guys,
• 41:16
  we will see everybody next
• 41:17
  time on the Clydesdale Media Roundtable.
• 41:21
  Bye, guys.
• 41:21
  Bye.