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- 0:02Speaker 1: Polish football hooligans are renowned for some of the worst
- 0:05Speaker 1: violence the game has ever seen.
- 0:08Speaker 2: A lot of people have died in this country from
- 0:11Speaker 2: the hooligans.
- 0:12Speaker 1: They have close links with the extreme right wing and
- 0:15Speaker 1: Nazi groups.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Your ringtone is a speech of Hitler.
- 0:20Speaker 4: And are feared throughout Europe.
- 0:23Speaker 5: It really is like martial law has been declared. It's
- 0:25Speaker 5: that threatening.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I've traveled here to Krakow in Poland to find out
- 0:30Speaker 1: why it's such a problem and to come face to
- 0:32Speaker 1: face with some of the most violent fans in the business.
- 1:07Speaker 4: Krakow is a beautiful city.
- 1:09Speaker 3: In fact, it's a World Heritage Site. Tourists flock here.
- 1:12Speaker 4: For its history and its stunning architecture.
- 1:16Speaker 1: However, I'm not here to sample the culture. I'm off
- 1:19Speaker 1: to a railway station on the outskirts of town to
- 1:21Speaker 1: meet some of Europe's most violent football hooligans. I'm about
- 1:30Speaker 1: to get my first taste of the problem here by
- 1:32Speaker 1: joining an elite squad of riot police. they're going to
- 1:36Speaker 1: make sure that any violence here is immediately stamped out.
- 1:40Speaker 1: There's some 300 guys tooling up right now to go
- 1:43Speaker 1: to the football match. They've got shotguns, tear gas, batons.
- 1:48Speaker 3: They're all wearing body armour.
- 1:52Speaker 1: They look more like they're about to invade a country
- 1:53Speaker 1: rather than actually police a football match.
- 1:55Speaker 4: The visiting Lech Poznań supporters have such a reputation for.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Trouble that they will be met on the outskirts of
- 2:03Speaker 1: the city and escorted all the way to the ground.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I'm stunned at the police presence here, just to meet
- 2:17Speaker 1: a few hundred fans. Today, one of the local Krakow teams,
- 2:24Speaker 1: Vizsla Krakow, are playing Lech Poznań. The lake's supporters have
- 2:32Speaker 1: travelled over 400km to get this far. Once they arrive here,
- 2:37Speaker 1: they'll be searched and put onto police buses and driven,
- 2:40Speaker 1: escorted to the ground. I have to say, if I
- 2:43Speaker 1: arrived at this railway station, I wouldn't be getting off
- 2:45Speaker 1: the train, I'd be staying on it and going home.
- 2:50Speaker 1: The shout's just gone down that the train is five
- 2:52Speaker 1: minutes away, so the guys now are putting their helmets on.
- 2:55Speaker 3: These guys are not messing about.
- 2:57Speaker 1: You can really feel there's an energy here now element
- 3:00Speaker 1: of that anticipation.
- 3:02Speaker 6: The train, we've been waiting for some time, has finally arrived.
- 3:12Speaker 7: These supporters have been on that train for five hours.
- 3:15Speaker 1: We've been waiting for some time.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Has finally arrived.
- 3:20Speaker 4: These supporters have been on.
- 3:21Speaker 5: That train for five hours.
- 3:23Speaker 4: We've been waiting for some time, has finally arrived.
- 3:26Speaker 3: We've been waiting for some time, has finally arrived.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Football hooliganism in Poland is well-planned.
- 3:32Speaker 1: Amongst the ordinary supporters are the hardline leaders and organisers
- 3:36Speaker 1: who coordinate the violence. Some of those guys there are
- 3:41Speaker 1: trying to hide their faces.
- 3:44Speaker 8: It's possible.
- 3:46Speaker 9: Hooligans take special suits, such jackets, and when they're fastened,
- 3:49Speaker 9: they can't see their faces.
- 3:50Speaker 7: They can't identify them.
- 4:00Speaker 1: The police reception seems to have had its effect on them.
- 4:02Speaker 1: You know, the detective said if they're not chanting, then
- 4:07Speaker 1: we've won the first battle, so they're not singing at
- 4:09Speaker 1: the moment.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Police 1, support is nil. So far. We're approaching the ground,
- 4:35Speaker 3: we're in convoy.
- 4:36Speaker 1: I have to say this entire thing has been organised
- 4:39Speaker 1: like a military exercise. Highly organised, extremely efficient.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Quite exciting.
- 4:49Speaker 1: At the Wiesbaden Stadium, the visiting LEC supporters are searched again.
- 4:53Speaker 1: To avoid any contact with the home supporters, they're herded
- 4:56Speaker 1: into their enclosure two hours before the home fans are
- 5:00Speaker 1: let into the ground. The security is so tight that
- 5:11Speaker 1: once inside the ground, the Lek supporters are caged in
- 5:14Speaker 1: and surrounded by high fences and private security. On either
- 5:19Speaker 1: side of them are the home Wiesewa fans, and clearly,
- 5:23Speaker 1: there is no love lost. The Lek supporters, there are
- 5:28Speaker 1: not many of them, but they're certainly making up for
- 5:31Speaker 1: the fact that every time the Wiesewa fans shout Wiesewa,
- 5:36Speaker 1: these guys shout back whore. Within seconds of kick-off, trouble
- 5:44Speaker 1: erupts on the home-side terraces. Unable to get to the
- 5:48Speaker 1: visiting Lek fans, Vizsla take on the security guards employed
- 5:52Speaker 1: to keep the rival gangs apart.
- 5:55Speaker 4: I'm surprised at how quickly the violence escalates.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Things are being thrown. It's only five minutes into the gang.
- 6:02Speaker 3: They've got the tear gas going off. It has seriously
- 6:05Speaker 3: kicked off.
- 6:07Speaker 7: Police went in there within seconds. Now, don't hang around here.
- 6:12Speaker 1: As the home V's while fans battle with the security guards,
- 6:15Speaker 1: the visiting supporters keep up their chants. They're going to
- 6:19Speaker 1: start this way again, look. I mean, this is just madness.
- 6:22Speaker 3: HE COUGHS.
- 6:41Speaker 9: I can't see!
- 6:44Speaker 3: I've just got it all in my face.
- 6:47Speaker 4: The security.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Are crowding into one corner. All the fans have pushed
- 6:56Speaker 3: them into the corner and they're threatening them. They're heavily outnumbered.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Not to be outdone, the visiting LEC supporters try to
- 7:18Speaker 1: kick through the steel fence that separates them from their rivals.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Police in white helmets are deployed into the ground to
- 7:25Speaker 1: prevent a full-scale riot.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Stopped for a period of time.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Because the left fans nearly pushed that wall down. I
- 7:37Speaker 1: would say, no security, don't look like there's enough of them, because.
- 7:40Speaker 10: Heavily outnumbered, heavily outnumbered by the fans here.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Someone who knows a lot about Polish hooligans is British
- 7:53Speaker 1: journalist Bob Graham.
- 7:55Speaker 4: I've arranged to meet him at the match.
- 7:58Speaker 1: So, Bob, what we just saw behind us, was that
- 8:01Speaker 1: typical of Polish football?
- 8:03Speaker 2: Very normal Saturday afternoon, Saturday evening game. Happens all the time.
- 8:08Speaker 2: It's traditional tribal, traditional rivalry, hatred.
- 8:12Speaker 11: And you see from the use of the.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Batons that the police use how much hatred is felt
- 8:18Speaker 2: between one team and the other. And they're getting in
- 8:21Speaker 2: the middle.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Of it all. We've had a hooligan problem in the
- 8:27Speaker 1: UK for many, many years.
- 8:29Speaker 3: How hard are these guys?
- 8:30Speaker 7: How do they rate?
- 8:32Speaker 3: They are hard.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Hard in terms of the destructiveness of them. They hurt people,
- 8:37Speaker 2: they stab people. A lot of people have died in
- 8:40Speaker 2: this country from the hooligans.
- 8:45Speaker 7: But why has Poland got such a bad problem with hooligans?
- 8:49Speaker 11: It's a phenomenon that goes back to the Second World
- 8:52Speaker 11: War and then went through the communist era. And to
- 8:54Speaker 11: understand it, you need to go back to the post-communist
- 8:58Speaker 11: towns that have been neglected and left almost to total neglect,
- 9:03Speaker 11: where the only thing that a lot of young people
- 9:05Speaker 11: have got is violence and hatred and this animosity.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Between one another.
- 9:23Speaker 1: It's obvious the violence is endemic. The levels of hatred
- 9:27Speaker 1: seem out of control, and I want to find out why. Well,
- 9:40Speaker 1: taking on Bob's advice, we've decided to try and get
- 9:42Speaker 1: to the root of the problem. So we're going to
- 9:45Speaker 1: leave Krakow, which is down here, and make our way
- 9:48Speaker 1: up to a place called Gorzow, which is virtually on
- 9:51Speaker 1: the German border.
- 9:53Speaker 3: Apparently, there's a gang.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Of notorious football hooligans there called the Steel on Fighters,
- 9:57Speaker 1: and we're going to try and make contact with them.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Gorzow is said to be Poland's forgotten city. It's had
- 10:12Speaker 1: a turbulent past. Before World War II, it was part
- 10:16Speaker 1: of Hitler's Germany. In 1945, during their push to capture Berlin,
- 10:25Speaker 1: the Russian army flattened the city. When Gorzów was rebuilt,
- 10:37Speaker 1: it fell to the austere eye of the communist planners.
- 10:44Speaker 1: This is Poland's grassroots, and home to a gang of
- 10:47Speaker 1: hooligans who have.
- 10:48Speaker 4: A fearsome reputation for violence and off the pitch.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I want to meet them and to find out why
- 10:55Speaker 1: they fight and why Poland is struggling to control them.
- 11:01Speaker 4: I've been put in touch with a man called Tomek.
- 11:03Speaker 4: He claims to have contact with the local hooligans, the
- 11:06Speaker 4: Stelon fighters. But our presence here is already causing trouble.
- 11:12Speaker 3: So, what happened to your face?
- 11:14Speaker 12: Well, with those guys who are always there, So you
- 11:20Speaker 12: actually got beaten up because of us?
- 11:21Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Steel on Gorzhov may be a third division team, but
- 11:52Speaker 1: the steel on fighters have a reputation for fighting well
- 11:56Speaker 1: above their weight.
- 11:59Speaker 4: I thought that meeting up with them may have been difficult.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I needn't have worried. They already knew exactly where we were.
- 12:06Speaker 3: So how long have you lived here? Come out of
- 12:12Speaker 3: the way. He's kicked off and he's gonna get some...
- 12:14Speaker 3: Stop filming.
- 12:15Speaker 5: You have to stop filming now because they've asked us.
- 12:17Speaker 13: They're gonna hurt us, so we're gonna stop filming now.
- 12:42Speaker 1: It just kicked off, and we've been left in no
- 12:54Speaker 1: mind other than the fact that we are really, really
- 12:55Speaker 1: not wanted here. We were talking to Tomek, then all
- 12:58Speaker 1: of a sudden one guy turns up, starts pushing the camera,
- 13:01Speaker 1: then another one turns up, and obviously that's the way
- 13:03Speaker 1: they operate in gangs. Then all of a sudden there
- 13:06Speaker 1: was more than three or four, there were about 12
- 13:08Speaker 1: to 15 of them. And they were the steel-on fighters.
- 13:12Speaker 1: These are the guys, the hoolies, as they call themselves,
- 13:14Speaker 1: for the local football team here. And we thought because
- 13:17Speaker 1: we were atomic, we'd be OK, but.
- 13:19Speaker 4: Obviously we weren't.
- 13:20Speaker 1: So we've upset them, so we have to leave. The
- 13:30Speaker 1: steel-on fighters are determined to stop us filming them. But
- 13:33Speaker 1: we're not giving up just yet.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Yes, me.
- 13:41Speaker 4: Our research has found.
- 13:42Speaker 1: That this city has several right-wing groups, some of which
- 13:46Speaker 1: are connected to the Stelon fighters. In order to get
- 13:50Speaker 1: in with the Stelon fighters, I've travelled to the other
- 13:52Speaker 1: side of town, where our researchers uncovered some of their
- 13:56Speaker 1: neo-Nazi friends. Going up to meet them, I think the
- 14:00Speaker 1: guy I'm supposed to be meeting is a guy called Python,
- 14:02Speaker 1: and they're twins.
- 14:03Speaker 3: There's Python 1 and there's Python 2.
- 14:04Speaker 1: And obviously they're like letting everyone know that they're here,
- 14:08Speaker 1: That's your white power sign. This gang is part of
- 14:19Speaker 1: a rising tide of fascism sweeping Poland.
- 14:22Speaker 4: They don't regard themselves as hooligans, but as skinheads.
- 14:27Speaker 1: They fight alongside the Stelon fighters and support the same
- 14:30Speaker 1: football team, but have different beliefs. Can you tell me
- 14:35Speaker 1: what made you take up this ideology? What caused you
- 14:39Speaker 1: to want to be the way that you are?
- 14:41Speaker 9: I've not seen any black people here, so why do
- 14:44Speaker 9: you dislike them out of interest?
- 15:05Speaker 4: And their existence in my city.
- 15:08Speaker 9: I think Asfalt has its place.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Yes, because.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Jews are fighting for everything.
- 15:15Speaker 9: They want to stand on the highest podium. They don't
- 15:20Speaker 9: have their own country. There was not enough space for them.
- 15:23Speaker 13: Not all of them.
- 15:35Speaker 3: They should repeat it.
- 15:36Speaker 7: It's true. We like to bully each other a bit.
- 15:37Speaker 3: We go to the stands. We try to do our best.
- 15:39Speaker 7: And it's good for us.
- 16:00Speaker 8: A communist-backed chemical plant called Stilon used to provide most
- 16:03Speaker 8: of the employment in the city.
- 16:04Speaker 9: Now unemployment in Gorzów runs at around 20%.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Since the collapse of communism, there's been a rapid rise
- 16:34Speaker 1: in right-wing groups throughout Poland. The boys are meeting up
- 16:39Speaker 1: with other Nazi sympathisers at a local pub, and I've
- 16:42Speaker 1: been invited.
- 16:43Speaker 3: To tag along.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Promoting Nazi ideology in Poland is illegal, but here the
- 16:50Speaker 1: whole gang are blatantly wearing 88 T-shirts.
- 16:55Speaker 4: Eight represents H, the eighth letter of the alphabet.
- 16:58Speaker 1: 88 is short for Heil Hitler. I saw a.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Black girl come in there earlier.
- 17:05Speaker 8: With a white man, and you went up.
- 17:08Speaker 4: And you told them to leave.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Is that the policy here?
- 17:11Speaker 9: Most of the gang are unemployed.
- 17:27Speaker 1: But a few of them earn extra cash by working
- 17:30Speaker 1: as bouncers in clubs and bars. Even on a night off,
- 17:34Speaker 1: they're prepared to put in a bit of overtime.
- 17:39Speaker 11: Thank you.
- 18:14Speaker 1: One thing that history tells us is that the right
- 18:17Speaker 1: wing rises in times of economic downturn. I find it
- 18:21Speaker 1: astonishing with this country's past that.
- 18:24Speaker 4: Some people here can behave like this.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Nazi dogma makes it easy to blame others, and picking
- 18:29Speaker 1: on self-targets gives them status. Well, it's the morning after
- 18:43Speaker 1: the night before with the neo-Nazis, and while I detested
- 18:47Speaker 1: everything they stand for, they actually seemed to like me.
- 18:50Speaker 1: So the Python brothers have invited us round for a
- 18:53Speaker 1: cup of tea.
- 19:00Speaker 4: Three generations live in the Python household.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Here, above a bakery, in a tiny three-room flat, live
- 19:07Speaker 1: five adults, a baby and a dog. What are you doing?
- 19:17Speaker 5: Hello?
- 19:18Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
- 19:20Speaker 5: Come, dog.
- 19:22Speaker 4: That's your phone going. That's Zeke Hyatt.
- 19:24Speaker 7: It says Zeke Hyatt when it goes off.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Your ringtone is a speech of Hitler.
- 19:32Speaker 3: There's some other stuff here. There's a swastika there. And
- 19:37Speaker 3: that's an SS armband.
- 19:39Speaker 1: And there's a spoon with a German Wehrmacht Nazi stamp
- 19:46Speaker 1: on it.
- 19:48Speaker 3: This is Mum, yeah? Yeah. to meet you. Hello, Pieszko.
- 19:53Speaker 7: You're very proud of your two boys, your two twins?
- 19:55Speaker 4: Yes, of the twins, and of the boys as well.
- 19:58Speaker 9: But what they're doing, no.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Do you get worried?
- 20:01Speaker 4: Of course.
- 20:03Speaker 9: Whether they come back or not, whether they hurt anyone.
- 20:08Speaker 4: It's... It's their instinct.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Python too makes pizzas part-time. He's the only earner in
- 20:16Speaker 1: the household. He, his wife and his baby live in
- 20:20Speaker 1: one of the rooms.
- 20:23Speaker 7: So how did you two meet each other?
- 20:25Speaker 14: And when did you get married?
- 20:42Speaker 3: So it was love at first sight?
- 20:44Speaker 11: Really?
- 20:48Speaker 1: And now you've got some big responsibilities, I've been told.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Does it worry you now, him going off to the matches?
- 20:53Speaker 5: I'm afraid.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Sometimes he.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Chooses between family or the match.
- 20:59Speaker 8: And what he chooses, you ask him. Otherwise, I wouldn't
- 21:01Speaker 8: be able to live.
- 21:09Speaker 15: After tea with the pythons, I'm going to put their
- 21:11Speaker 15: clout and my neck on the line.
- 21:13Speaker 4: It's Saturday and Stylian Gurzhov are playing at home.
- 21:35Speaker 1: The Stilon fighters will definitely be at the match, and
- 21:38Speaker 1: this will be my only opportunity to meet them.
- 21:45Speaker 14: CHANTING We're heading on to their turf, at their ground,
- 21:59Speaker 14: to stand on their terrace.
- 22:03Speaker 5: CHANTING CKS!
- 22:06Speaker 3: CKS! CKS!
- 22:11Speaker 1: As soon as we arrived, the Stelon fighters noticed the camera.
- 22:15Speaker 5: CKS! CKS! CKS!
- 22:24Speaker 1: The guys aren't happy about us being here.
- 22:27Speaker 3: The guys are in.
- 22:29Speaker 4: Masks, and it's around their mouths.
- 22:30Speaker 12: So, they saw me kicking off, people having a go
- 22:32Speaker 12: at me, because we're here.
- 22:33Speaker 1: So, it made it seem like a very nice summer's off.
- 22:52Speaker 3: There's a very horrible undercurrent in this place.
- 22:54Speaker 5: At this minor league match, there.
- 22:59Speaker 10: Are only 2,000 to 3,000 people.
- 23:03Speaker 3: However, the level of aggression surprises me.
- 23:04Speaker 4: The guys down the front are just facing the.
- 23:22Speaker 1: The opposition fans arrive under a heavy police escort. With
- 23:26Speaker 1: half-time approaching, it would appear.
- 23:28Speaker 4: They're less interested in watching.
- 23:31Speaker 3: The game.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Are more interested in the fight to come.
- 24:03Speaker 1: The Stilon fighters now have a target for their aggression.
- 24:11Speaker 1: The pythons have persuaded one of the gang to talk
- 24:13Speaker 1: to us on the condition we protect his identity. CHANTING
- 24:20Speaker 1: There's not a lot of you guys over there, but
- 24:22Speaker 1: you seem very passionate about it.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:25Speaker 4: Why is that passion inside you?
- 24:27Speaker 12: These guys, these all are from poor families.
- 24:31Speaker 4: Poor backgrounds, yeah.
- 24:32Speaker 5: From the States.
- 24:33Speaker 12: Yeah, they haven't any money, and they live on the street,
- 24:39Speaker 12: and on the street, the most important is strong, yeah?
- 24:46Speaker 1: We spoke to some of the other guys who have
- 24:48Speaker 1: got right-wing views.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Are you of the same feelings?
- 24:51Speaker 12: I think it's my country, yeah? And the most important
- 24:57Speaker 12: in this country are Polish people, yeah? I'm not nazi,
- 25:02Speaker 12: I'm patriot, yeah? I love my country and my city, yeah?
- 25:06Speaker 3: Of course. What about those lot over there?
- 25:10Speaker 4: What do you think about them?
- 25:12Speaker 3: The opposition.
- 25:14Speaker 8: If they want, we take his telephone numbers and we
- 25:18Speaker 8: meet in the water and we fight for 20, 20
- 25:22Speaker 8: or 30, 30 people.
- 25:24Speaker 4: Do you use weapons or is it fists?
- 25:27Speaker 5: No.
- 25:27Speaker 3: Any weapons?
- 25:29Speaker 1: No weapons.
- 25:29Speaker 12: No, only hands.
- 25:30Speaker 1: All right, so there's laws and rules inside. The strength
- 25:37Speaker 1: of the police presence, even at small matches, may have
- 25:39Speaker 1: reduced some of the violence on the terraces, but it's
- 25:42Speaker 1: also served to push it underground. We've managed to uncover
- 25:48Speaker 1: some fight footage which shows the hunger for violence amongst
- 25:52Speaker 1: the hooligans. Prearranged fights like these take place in secret
- 25:57Speaker 1: locations without the knowledge.
- 25:59Speaker 7: Of the police.
- 26:01Speaker 1: During these running battles, the reputation of a gang is
- 26:04Speaker 1: made or lost. I've seen the level of violence that
- 26:15Speaker 1: surrounds Polish football and how the right wing have infiltrated
- 26:19Speaker 1: the terraces. Jacek Perski works for an organisation called Never Again.
- 26:26Speaker 1: They expose officials who turned a blind eye to these
- 26:29Speaker 1: extreme gangs.
- 26:31Speaker 4: I ask him why they attract so many new recruits.
- 26:36Speaker 16: They are looking for belonging in a group, you know.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Identity. Identity, yeah, exactly.
- 26:42Speaker 16: Sometimes, of course, it's economical problems. There's a huge unemployment
- 26:46Speaker 16: and they simply have a lot of time to and
- 26:49Speaker 16: must do something in their life. And it might be
- 26:52Speaker 16: a reason for them to do something, you know, going
- 26:56Speaker 16: on the stadium, looking for a fight.
- 26:58Speaker 1: All the hooligans that I've spoke to expose right-wing views.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Is there a connection between the football hooligans and the Nazis?
- 27:05Speaker 16: Some of the far-right organisations... They've got some, let's say, volunteers,
- 27:11Speaker 16: people who are going on the terraces and looking for
- 27:14Speaker 16: new members. They know that the terraces, they've got a
- 27:18Speaker 16: very good ground there to spread their idea, their nationalistic
- 27:22Speaker 16: and racist idea.
- 27:25Speaker 1: So do you think the government turns a blind eye
- 27:27Speaker 1: to right-wing organisations here?
- 27:29Speaker 16: Unfortunately, like, for example, All Polish Youth, this is the
- 27:33Speaker 16: organisation that was recruited through the culture of skinheads. And
- 27:40Speaker 16: in the moment, they are now in the government.
- 27:42Speaker 3: So hang on a minute.
- 27:43Speaker 1: There are people who are in the government who used
- 27:46Speaker 1: to be skinheads?
- 27:47Speaker 3: Yes.
- 27:48Speaker 16: Like, for example, Vice Minister of Sports, Radoslaw Parda. He's
- 27:52Speaker 16: the guy who was a skinhead and a hooligan.
- 27:57Speaker 7: And that's just accepted, is it?
- 27:59Speaker 3: Unfortunately, it's accepted.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Jacek's outspoken views has led him to being placed on
- 28:05Speaker 1: a right-wing hit list called the Red List. Poland is
- 28:14Speaker 1: a country going through some fundamental changes. Since 2004, almost
- 28:19Speaker 1: three million Poles have left to find work and a
- 28:23Speaker 1: better life abroad. We're looking at the people that have
- 28:26Speaker 1: been left behind. It's not the first time that I've
- 28:29Speaker 1: seen the connection between unemployment and gang membership. The Gorzow
- 28:34Speaker 1: gangs were tough, but the hooligans that I'm going to
- 28:37Speaker 1: try and contact next are simply.
- 28:40Speaker 3: In a different league.
- 28:43Speaker 1: I'm going back to Krakow just in time for one
- 28:46Speaker 1: of the most brutal clashes in Polish football. In a
- 28:51Speaker 1: few days' time, Wiesław Krakow will take on Krakowia, their
- 28:55Speaker 1: most bitter rival. The hooligans of these two teams are
- 29:08Speaker 1: the most vicious and the most feared gangs in the country. Here,
- 29:15Speaker 1: the hooligans have no rules and there is no honour
- 29:18Speaker 1: between enemies.
- 29:20Speaker 4: The hatred runs so deep that people are killed.
- 29:28Speaker 1: As I walk around, it's obvious that there's a street
- 29:30Speaker 1: war being fought here as the whole city is plastered
- 29:35Speaker 1: with graffiti. John Adkins is a football fan and a
- 29:44Speaker 1: tour guide in Krakow. He's going to help me to
- 29:47Speaker 1: understand what's behind the hatred here.
- 29:50Speaker 9: John?
- 29:51Speaker 3: Yeah. Ross, pleased to meet you, mate. Nice to meet you.
- 29:53Speaker 16: How are you?
- 29:53Speaker 3: All right, mate.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about this town and the
- 29:57Speaker 1: two teams that exist here.
- 29:59Speaker 5: Well, here in Krakow, we have two teams. One team
- 30:02Speaker 5: is called Krakowia, and the other team is called Wisła.
- 30:05Speaker 1: And historically, the supporters in this town have always been
- 30:08Speaker 1: in each.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Other's throats, is that correct? Yeah.
- 30:10Speaker 5: The supporters of the Krakow clubs have the reputation of
- 30:13Speaker 5: having the most, let's say, intense and often violent rivalry
- 30:17Speaker 5: in the entire country. This neighborhood right now is very
- 30:19Speaker 5: much a Krakowia neighborhood.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:21Speaker 3: As you can see by the walls.
- 30:28Speaker 1: So, John, Cracovia, that's pretty self-explanatory. But something's been written
- 30:33Speaker 1: after it, hasn't it?
- 30:35Speaker 5: Over here, we can see where a Wisła supporter put
- 30:38Speaker 5: kurwa after Cracovia, which means something like whore.
- 30:42Speaker 3: So Cracovia whore.
- 30:43Speaker 1: But this town differs from other places we've seen in Poland.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Doesn't it, in terms of the hooligan element? Yeah, that's right.
- 30:48Speaker 5: Elsewhere in Poland, there's an informal agreement among supporters not
- 30:52Speaker 5: to use weapons when they fight.
- 30:55Speaker 3: But here in Cracovia, they do.
- 30:56Speaker 5: Knives, baseball bats... Sticks, pipes, anything that can be useful
- 31:00Speaker 5: in a fight.
- 31:02Speaker 1: And do they have the prearranged fights that we've seen
- 31:05Speaker 1: in other places?
- 31:05Speaker 3: No, they don't.
- 31:06Speaker 5: Actually, here in Krakow, they have something called polovania, which means, like, hunting,
- 31:10Speaker 5: something like that. And they just go around in packs, five, ten,
- 31:14Speaker 5: twelve people or more, and just look for supporters of
- 31:16Speaker 5: the other team to fight with.
- 31:19Speaker 4: John and I now cross into a Wiesbaden neighbourhood.
- 31:28Speaker 5: And here we can see a rather large mural identifying
- 31:31Speaker 5: this as very much a Vizsua neighborhood. We can see
- 31:33Speaker 5: the white star of Vizsua in the middle. And it says,
- 31:37Speaker 5: we'll show you a feeling or a vision that you've
- 31:39Speaker 5: never known. Loyalty.
- 31:40Speaker 3: It's Viernos. Loyalty or fidelity. What's the bottom of it say?
- 31:43Speaker 5: Today an enemy. Yesterday a brother. What does that mean then, Jack?
- 31:47Speaker 3: Do you know?
- 31:47Speaker 5: Well, you know, you can be in the Vizsua family,
- 31:51Speaker 5: the Vizsua club, the fraternity. But if you cross them,
- 31:54Speaker 5: if you leave it, you're no longer a brother. You're
- 31:57Speaker 5: an enemy.
- 31:58Speaker 3: So it's a threat?
- 32:00Speaker 5: Something like that, yeah.
- 32:01Speaker 1: John, Krakow and Wiesbaw are playing each other in a
- 32:04Speaker 1: couple of days.
- 32:05Speaker 3: What's this town going to be like when that happens?
- 32:07Speaker 3: It's incredible.
- 32:08Speaker 5: Police everywhere in full riot gear, shields and batons, helmets,
- 32:12Speaker 5: horse-mounted police water cannons. It really is like martial law
- 32:16Speaker 5: has been declared. It's that threatening.
- 32:18Speaker 3: The atmosphere is really that heavy. It's amazing.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Throughout its history, Krakow has played host to many invading forces.
- 32:27Speaker 1: And for many here, it's still reeling from the impact
- 32:30Speaker 1: of a communist rule that left it isolated from the
- 32:34Speaker 1: West for over 40 years. Historically, Krakow has been the
- 32:38Speaker 1: home of Poland's artistic and intellectual elite, whose views contradicted
- 32:44Speaker 1: Stalin's communist ethos.
- 32:46Speaker 4: In one of the first.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Examples of social engineering, the gigantic Lenin steelworks was constructed
- 32:51Speaker 1: on the edge of the city. It provided employment for
- 32:54Speaker 1: over 35,000 workers who came from all over Poland. To
- 32:59Speaker 1: house them and their families, a Soviet-style suburb called Nowa
- 33:04Speaker 1: Huta was built. In 1989, the Polish people won their freedom,
- 33:11Speaker 1: but their industry paid the price, losing its economic protection. Today,
- 33:16Speaker 1: Nowa Huta suffers chronic unemployment and is now home to
- 33:20Speaker 1: some of Europe's most violent football hooligans. The gang are
- 33:28Speaker 1: reluctant to speak to us. The big Vizsla-Krakowia clash is tomorrow,
- 33:32Speaker 1: and security is being stepped up all over the city.
- 33:37Speaker 1: John has been trying to arrange a meeting. Eventually, we
- 33:40Speaker 1: make some progress with the Vizsla gang. They instruct us
- 33:44Speaker 1: to drive to a quiet part of Nowa Huta and
- 33:46Speaker 1: wait for their call.
- 33:48Speaker 10: We're just about to arrive at the location where we've
- 33:51Speaker 10: arranged to meet the hooligans. We've got about five minutes
- 33:57Speaker 10: before they're supposed to be here.
- 34:17Speaker 2: No, Yak.
- 34:18Speaker 3: What's the matter? What happened?
- 34:26Speaker 7: Benjamin.
- 34:27Speaker 5: All right. What was that? Not going to be here
- 34:34Speaker 5: at three. You're going to be here at seven. I
- 34:38Speaker 5: like herding cats.
- 34:44Speaker 4: Three hours later, they call, telling us to head to
- 34:47Speaker 4: a different part of the city.
- 34:57Speaker 1: We've spent weeks tracking down the Vizsla hooligans. This gang
- 35:01Speaker 1: is violent, unpredictable, and unfortunately, they're calling all the shots.
- 35:08Speaker 1: We've just seen three guys up the road in balaclavas,
- 35:14Speaker 1: so unless we're about to meet the Provisional IRA, I
- 35:16Speaker 1: think they're our boys.
- 35:27Speaker 5: Yeah, but he says he's waiting on the rest of
- 35:35Speaker 5: the guys to show up. And because they don't strike
- 35:39Speaker 5: the numbers, and when they all show up, they'll call me.
- 35:41Speaker 3: I'm supposed to go there alone. I'll come with you.
- 35:43Speaker 3: That's what he says.
- 35:47Speaker 7: Bye.
- 35:54Speaker 5: He says that the eight guys there are waiting to.
- 35:56Speaker 3: Talk to us. Can we go with them there? And
- 35:59Speaker 3: we can take the camera with us, yeah? Yeah, we
- 36:00Speaker 3: can go. Go now.
- 36:08Speaker 1: As we walk out to meet the gang, we see
- 36:10Speaker 1: another 15 of them on top of a nearby building,
- 36:13Speaker 1: watching our every move.
- 36:15Speaker 4: Please don't film the top.
- 36:22Speaker 5: These guys who are on the building, they're not on
- 36:23Speaker 5: the building.
- 36:24Speaker 7: No, no, they'll just be on me. So I'm going
- 36:27Speaker 7: to ask you some questions, if that's all right.
- 36:30Speaker 1: First question is, could you identify yourselves, not your names, obviously,
- 36:33Speaker 1: but who you are and what team you support?
- 36:35Speaker 16: Yeah, and you're hooligans, yeah?
- 36:39Speaker 7: What kind of things do you get up to, then,
- 36:41Speaker 7: when you go to a football match?
- 36:43Speaker 3: Well, nothing.
- 36:44Speaker 7: We're just watching the match.
- 36:45Speaker 3: That's the question. Nothing. So you're hooligans.
- 36:50Speaker 13: But you don't do anything. I don't understand.
- 36:59Speaker 1: It's not a good sign that my questions are irritating them.
- 37:02Speaker 1: We're outnumbered, and I'm told they all carry weapons.
- 37:06Speaker 3: So, do you have.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Is there another team in this town, obviously, that you
- 37:11Speaker 1: have enemies in this town?
- 37:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:12Speaker 3: They're the Jews. Why is that your enemy?
- 37:20Speaker 5: Why?
- 37:20Speaker 7: Because that's how it is. That's how it is and.
- 37:22Speaker 3: It will always be. That's how we were raised. That's
- 37:25Speaker 3: how we were raised.
- 37:25Speaker 7: From generation to generation.
- 37:27Speaker 3: That's how it should be and we keep the tradition.
- 37:30Speaker 9: And this tradition will never die.
- 37:32Speaker 3: We come to the stadium as a child.
- 37:36Speaker 13: If you're walking down the road on your own and
- 37:38Speaker 13: you saw a Krakowian.
- 37:39Speaker 7: Fan, Would you want to attack him? Do you attack him?
- 38:00Speaker 3: And that's the reason that we.
- 38:02Speaker 13: Came here, because this town is famous in the whole
- 38:04Speaker 13: of Poland because of this situation. But what I don't
- 38:07Speaker 13: understand is why it exists. I don't understand why the
- 38:09Speaker 13: hatred is.
- 38:09Speaker 4: You can always say that's the way it was handed down.
- 38:12Speaker 3: But Why is there such hatred? Why is it so
- 38:27Speaker 3: extreme here?
- 38:28Speaker 1: Why is it more extreme here in this area than
- 38:30Speaker 1: it is anywhere else in Poland?
- 38:32Speaker 12: Here are the most fanatical people of Witwa.
- 38:34Speaker 7: Exactly.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Here are two clubs that are fighting for the center.
- 38:37Speaker 4: The oldest clubs in Poland.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Yes.
- 38:39Speaker 15: It's the longest war. This is life. This is life,
- 38:42Speaker 15: isn't it? Life is beautiful. Everyone chooses the road. We
- 38:47Speaker 15: chose this one. I don't understand why it's.
- 38:52Speaker 12: So bad.
- 38:55Speaker 5: They're sorry about the stupid questions.
- 39:00Speaker 1: They start to argue amongst themselves and the mood goes
- 39:03Speaker 1: from bad to worse as they threaten to hurt the
- 39:06Speaker 1: crew unless the camera is switched off.
- 39:10Speaker 5: Stop recording.
- 39:11Speaker 12: Stop recording.
- 39:12Speaker 5: Switch off the camera.
- 39:13Speaker 7: Switch off the camera.
- 39:22Speaker 3: Well, they were pretty intimidating.
- 39:25Speaker 1: It seems to me they've actually forgot what they're fighting
- 39:27Speaker 1: about and this ongoing war, I suppose it gives them
- 39:32Speaker 1: credibility and identity, a bit of kudos.
- 39:36Speaker 3: And without it, well, they probably have nothing.
- 39:39Speaker 1: And if that's what they're like on an average day,
- 39:42Speaker 1: can you imagine what they're like when the two teams
- 39:44Speaker 1: play against each other?
- 39:51Speaker 4: Today is the biggest match of the season.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Krikovia invite their bitter rivals, Vizsla, into their stadium.
- 39:59Speaker 4: With an hour to go.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Before kick-off, Krikovia fans are gathering outside their ground. The
- 40:04Speaker 1: opposition fans supporting Vizsla are due any minute.
- 40:09Speaker 4: The police are desperate to keep the fighting gangs apart.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Amid massive security, the Wiesbauer fans are busting. They've just
- 40:28Speaker 1: loaded the shotguns.
- 40:30Speaker 3: Here we go, watch out.
- 40:30Speaker 7: This bottle's coming.
- 40:32Speaker 15: Watch out.
- 40:36Speaker 4: Well, boys, it's certainly... The anti's certainly gone up.
- 40:44Speaker 3: Watch out for this stone, mate. Watch... I'm just telling you,
- 40:47Speaker 3: hang on. Watch for your head.
- 40:52Speaker 1: The Cracovia fans try anything to get to their sworn enemy.
- 40:55Speaker 1: They know this could be their only chance to make
- 40:58Speaker 1: an attack. Once inside the ground, they will be kept apart.
- 41:15Speaker 1: You can see the bottles coming over the top there.
- 41:29Speaker 1: The guys will be throwing the bottles, throwing the bottles
- 41:31Speaker 1: at the Vizsla fans, just to make an assault. But
- 41:35Speaker 1: you know, but it's... Let's see what happens now.
- 41:39Speaker 4: Let's follow this lot.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Oh.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Watch out.
- 41:59Speaker 1: I think we should get out of the way right
- 42:02Speaker 1: in the middle here, boys.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Can I just say something?
- 42:08Speaker 3: That was really one of the.
- 42:10Speaker 1: I keep doing very silly things, but we just managed
- 42:12Speaker 1: to walk ourselves into the crossfire between the two opposing teams.
- 42:15Speaker 4: Really bright, Ross.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Have I said that? Then there's a lady doing the rubbish.
- 42:22Speaker 3: There's a lady taking out the rubbish, look.
- 42:24Speaker 1: You've seen it all before. With the game underway, the
- 42:33Speaker 1: fans mount an attack. There's a series of flares going
- 42:39Speaker 1: back and forth from the Krakowian fans over into the Vito.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Not for the first time in a Polish football match,
- 42:47Speaker 1: the game has been stopped. That's the manager of the
- 42:51Speaker 1: Krakowian team, and the.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Manager has just been screaming at the.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Fans, Krakowian fans, to give him and his team a
- 42:58Speaker 1: bit of a break. Since we started making this film,
- 43:03Speaker 1: it's been announced that one of the countries that will
- 43:06Speaker 1: host the European Championships in 2012 will be Poland. Supporters
- 43:12Speaker 1: of Europe's top 16 footballing nations will come to Poland
- 43:16Speaker 1: in great numbers and policing them will be a challenge.
- 43:21Speaker 1: Police now have actually moved in to the.
- 43:25Speaker 4: Hardcore supporters of COVID-19. They're actually moving them. back in
- 43:30Speaker 4: so they can't throw stuff.
- 43:34Speaker 1: Here in Poland, most of the real supporters come to
- 43:37Speaker 1: show their devotion in an energetic but non-violent way.
- 43:48Speaker 17: That said, the hooligan problem exists at every level in
- 43:58Speaker 17: Polish football.
- 44:11Speaker 1: It's easy to blame economic disadvantages or the political climate,
- 44:16Speaker 1: but solutions need to be found. In 2012, Europe's top
- 44:24Speaker 1: footballers will turn up to play the beautiful game. Advertising
- 44:28Speaker 1: and sponsorship will earn Poland millions of euros. I just
- 44:36Speaker 1: hope that some of the revenue generated filters downwards to
- 44:39Speaker 1: help alleviate some of the social problems that underpin the
- 44:42Speaker 1: hooligan element here.
- 44:43Speaker 7: The majority of.
- 44:44Speaker 3: Fans are in law abiding and just want to watch
- 44:46Speaker 3: a great game of football.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Let's hope by 2012 it's their voice that's heard above
- 44:52Speaker 1: the hooligan minority.