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Monday Mini: The R. Kelly Trial · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Steph.
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  Speaker 1: I've never told to your protection of iHeart Radio. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of Monday Mini. And we
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  Speaker 1: are going to go ahead and time stamp this because
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  Speaker 1: this is current events in the US. But today is
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  Speaker 1: September twenty nine, and this week has been fairly significant
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  Speaker 1: as the recent trial for R. Kelly, or actually Robert
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  Speaker 1: Sylvester Kelly has been happening. So we go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: put this here. Content warning, trigger warning. We're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: go to in depth on details specifically with the victims
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  Speaker 1: and or any of the acts being alleged, but there
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  Speaker 1: is some conversations about sexual violence, kidnapping, abuse, manipulation, so
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  Speaker 1: many things that are toxic and vile pertaining to R. Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: So if this is not something you want to hear today, understand,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and flip it off and come back. Although
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  Speaker 1: right now there's a little bit of good news, so yes,
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  Speaker 1: this miss caveat there. Yes, um, so for those of
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  Speaker 1: you who somehow we're able to avoid the atricious things
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  Speaker 1: that Kelly has been accused of and recently convicted for,
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do a quick review, right so he's
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  Speaker 1: become one of the most talked about predators to date.
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  Speaker 1: And even though rumors have swirled around him for a
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  Speaker 1: very long time, especially after what I would call odd
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  Speaker 1: relationships because nothing was confirmed, even though we all assumed
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  Speaker 1: and it turned out to be correct, that he had
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  Speaker 1: with Aliyah Um Yeah again, it was later confirmed that
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  Speaker 1: he did get married to her. They forged her age,
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  Speaker 1: they forged her I d And that he went and
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  Speaker 1: pretty much paid off a bunch of people to get
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  Speaker 1: this done, and that he did it possibly because she
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  Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time and by the way, that
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  Speaker 1: would mean that she was under the age of fifty
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  Speaker 1: when all that happened. Just put that there, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't until recently he was arrested with charges of sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking and racketeering. Many victims have alleged severe forms of abuse, manipulation,
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault, controlling tactics, and even being forced to write
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  Speaker 1: letters that he used against them if they tried to
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  Speaker 1: leave are good away from him. And if you have
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  Speaker 1: been keeping up with the stories, you know that many
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  Speaker 1: of the victims suffered intense trauma at the hands of
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  Speaker 1: this man and his associates who have only enabled him
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  Speaker 1: right um and Kelly was initially arrested in July twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen and has been held for trial, which was delayed
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  Speaker 1: due to the pandemic. Don't feel bad about that and
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  Speaker 1: has arrested did not happen until after an investigative report
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  Speaker 1: from BuzzFeed which followed the case of a one specific
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  Speaker 1: girl whose parents desperately were seeking away to get her
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  Speaker 1: out away from Kelly, who had a giant house here
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, as well as the very detailed documentary of
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  Speaker 1: Surviving R. Kelly, which was on I Believe the Lifetime network,
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  Speaker 1: and the six hour documentary looked at the different allegations
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  Speaker 1: that had been around him for years, including several different
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  Speaker 1: court cases which resulted in civil suits and payouts for
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  Speaker 1: some of the victims. Kelly was charged for multiple offenses,
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  Speaker 1: including eleven charges of sexual assault and abuse against a
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  Speaker 1: minor aged thirteen and sixteen. The documents described quote sex
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  Speaker 1: and oral sex with a minor by the use of
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  Speaker 1: force or threat of force. And he has brought a
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  Speaker 1: lot of controversy from so many including the fact he
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  Speaker 1: tried to intimidate and harrass witnesses before the trial before
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  Speaker 1: being arrested and tried to defend himself and one of
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  Speaker 1: the most cringe worthy interviews with Gail King after the
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  Speaker 1: documentary was released, right and he even released a new
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  Speaker 1: song talking about how he kind of got away with
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  Speaker 1: it um and then no one can touch him real stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And throughout his trial, his lawyers have tried everything in
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  Speaker 1: the victim blaming playbook, and by the way, right before
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  Speaker 1: his trial, a couple of his representatives at that time resigned,
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  Speaker 1: saying that he couldn't work with the other lawyers that
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  Speaker 1: he had hired, so he had a kind of a
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  Speaker 1: big switchover. And so the things that they actually tried
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  Speaker 1: to use against a lot of the people who were
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  Speaker 1: testifying into claiming that these victims were groupies who were
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  Speaker 1: bitter that Kelly in the relationships, or that they were
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  Speaker 1: trying to get money, or that they were just out
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  Speaker 1: for fame. All sounds familiar. They also tried to paint
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  Speaker 1: Kelly as the victim of rabid fans who tried to
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of him. Always this giant flips, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if you've been following, and if
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  Speaker 1: you have, many of the people that the defense tried
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  Speaker 1: to put on stand to defend Kelly they've watched it
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  Speaker 1: up pretty hard, contradicting themselves throughout their own testimony, so
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of a mess. Uh, delightfully that they
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  Speaker 1: were being called out quickly for their contradictions. And since
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the trial, which started on August eighteen
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  Speaker 1: this year, many witnesses have come forward to relay the
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  Speaker 1: trauma and abuse inflicted on the victims, and if you
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  Speaker 1: do go and see some of the testimony and some
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  Speaker 1: of the reports, it's harrowing and heartbreaking. And to the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he and his associates were depicted in organizing
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  Speaker 1: to recruit and transport underage girls over state lines for
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  Speaker 1: illegal sexual purposes, including the production of child sex abuse images,
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  Speaker 1: as well as conspiracy to obstruct justice by destroying evidence
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  Speaker 1: and bribing our threatening witnesses. He was charged with sex
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  Speaker 1: trafficking and violating the Man Act, which makes it illegal
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  Speaker 1: to transport anyone across state lines for any immoral purpose,
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  Speaker 1: and on September, after nine hours of deliberation, Kelly was
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  Speaker 1: convicted on all counts, and as victims watched to see
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  Speaker 1: if justice would be served, many were able to breathe again.
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  Speaker 1: Right Um and Jarhanda Pace, one of the brave women
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  Speaker 1: who testified at his trial stated in an Instagram post
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  Speaker 1: after the verdict was read, quote today, my voice was
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  Speaker 1: heard for years. I was told for speaking out about
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  Speaker 1: the abuse that I suffered at the hands of that predator.
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  Speaker 1: People called me a liar and said I had no proof.
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  Speaker 1: Some even said I'll speak me out for money. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: about abuses not easy, especially when you're an abuser. Is
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  Speaker 1: high profile and founders of the hashtag mute r Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: who pushed organizations, record labels, radio stations, and concert venues
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  Speaker 1: to drop R Kelly, also spoke out in regards to
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  Speaker 1: the verdict. They said they hoped the verdict quote brings
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  Speaker 1: some sense of justice to the brave survivors who came forward,
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  Speaker 1: and creator or Nique Ordelay said right now, I'm so relieved.
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  Speaker 1: Um And she said that moments af their verdict and
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  Speaker 1: went on, I am sure happiness and elation will follow.
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  Speaker 1: This has been such a journey for me and Kennetta,
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  Speaker 1: but most importantly for the women who have been asking
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  Speaker 1: for justice for close to three decades. UM. He's also
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  Speaker 1: facing charges in Illinois and Minnesota and will be back
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  Speaker 1: for sentencing on May four. Right, so there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on. And I don't know about you, Annie, but
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  Speaker 1: when our Kelly's name comes up, there's so much controversy
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  Speaker 1: and so many conversations. As in fact, over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: someone was playing a playlist off Spotify and it was
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  Speaker 1: just one of those generic Spotify created lists, so you
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  Speaker 1: just kind of like, oh, ninety said it's cool, and
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  Speaker 1: our Kelly song came on and I got very like Adam,
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  Speaker 1: really angry. I like, can you please turn this? And
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  Speaker 1: they kind of were like shocked, and one person was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's bad, but man, this song is still rocks. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, nothing about this makes me happy,
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  Speaker 1: and even complimenting it and I know you're joking. It's
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  Speaker 1: such a slap in the face for any victim. It
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  Speaker 1: just made me very sad that he's getting that reaction,
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  Speaker 1: that whole acceptance of yeah, but separate the artist. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's both. He actually sung about being with younger women
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  Speaker 1: and actually being completely uncontrolling over these women and really
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  Speaker 1: saw that as a flex and it's so disgusting to
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  Speaker 1: be in so many ways, but to have people defend him,
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  Speaker 1: even to this day, with so much testimony and so
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  Speaker 1: many similar stories like that's the part that blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: It's like this cannot okay once they're taught twice. I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you a small percentage of maybe. But for these many,
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  Speaker 1: this many stories, after years, years and years of victims
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly coming out like come on, there's so many out
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  Speaker 1: there that is unreal. And I'm really happy to see
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  Speaker 1: that this justice has come about, especially after what how
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  Speaker 1: already happened with Bill Cosby. And hopefully it'll stick um,
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  Speaker 1: as well as the fact that the two other states
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  Speaker 1: will also be having trial with him soon. He's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be sentenced for several more months, so a very
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  Speaker 1: least we know he's going to be just sitting there
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  Speaker 1: at that point in time, So there's some justice to that, um.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope that this gives some of the women
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  Speaker 1: who have gone through so much. And actually there was
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  Speaker 1: a couple of young men who had talked about he
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  Speaker 1: had victimized them as well, But I hope this brings
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  Speaker 1: them some type of relief and some type of healing
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  Speaker 1: on this giant journey in order to get past all
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  Speaker 1: of that trauma. Yes, for sure, and I'm sure we'll
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  Speaker 1: be keeping an eye on this, revisiting in the future.
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