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Ep. 150 : Sorting Through The Deadline Fallout · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one fifty of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I am Mike Coolard from Baseball Prospectus, joined
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  Speaker 1: per usual by my very good friend Jeremy Brewer from Rasball.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing tonight, buddy? Did you get traded away?
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  Speaker 1: Did any of your belongings get traded away? Did any
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  Speaker 1: of your family get traded away? Are you safe?
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  Speaker 2: I believe I'm safe, but I'm probably a high likelihood
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  Speaker 2: of the players be named later pool is. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that's kind of my skill level here as I'm
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  Speaker 2: the players being named later. It's not the like high
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  Speaker 2: draftic they just couldn't trade yet with like the we
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  Speaker 2: couldn't decide and so we're just gonna take this guy
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  Speaker 2: later type of thing. But nope, still here, still excited. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: we're moving things up a little to talk trade deadline
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  Speaker 2: because man, it was a fun one almost you but
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  Speaker 2: I always love trade deadline day, a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we are speaking here on August fourth, the Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: right after the trade deadline yesterday. So honestly, I'm still
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  Speaker 1: kind of like trying to pick up the pieces and
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  Speaker 1: figure out where everything was at because traditionally when we've
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  Speaker 1: done this the past couple of years, we've gone like
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  Speaker 1: trade by trade and analyzed it. I think the cleaner
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  Speaker 1: way to do it this year will be going through
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  Speaker 1: and analyzing each team and the transactions they made. It's
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  Speaker 1: sectually going to be quicker because I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a shade over sixty total trades. It was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of volume. So we were talking about it a little
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  Speaker 1: bit last week, where you know, I think there were
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  Speaker 1: some folks out there that were maybe a little wary
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  Speaker 1: about how much volume would be seeing in this trade deadline,
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  Speaker 1: but it was all over the place, and there was
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily a great rhyme or reason in terms of
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  Speaker 1: some of the teams that were on that dividing line
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  Speaker 1: in each division or in each league definitely went through
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  Speaker 1: and also some sold, some bought, So it made a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of an interesting deadline. We're gonna cover that
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  Speaker 1: our main segment, but I am gonna talk to you
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  Speaker 1: first about really the big one that kicked off everything
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  Speaker 1: and that happened and broke on Saturday night was Teak
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  Speaker 1: Schooble going to the Los Angeles Dodgers and the discourse
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of happened in terms of what it could
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  Speaker 1: be mean, especially as we're going into the negotiations of
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  Speaker 1: the CBA this offseason and just the Dodgers having every
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  Speaker 1: superstar that exists. So what is your take, Bin, Are
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  Speaker 1: you in the doom and gloom camp or are you like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's the trade deadline. Pony pony up if you
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  Speaker 1: want to Treeak Scooble.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I maybe I'm still on the fence.
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  Speaker 2: And this one, for the part of me is yeah,
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  Speaker 2: pony up if you want Toree Schooble. The other part
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  Speaker 2: of me goes Detroit. What were you doing? Like they
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  Speaker 2: traded him early and this was the biggest piece at
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline, and I feel like they could have
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  Speaker 2: gotten more for him if they had held out, Like
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  Speaker 2: there were some good players traded, and it felt like
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  Speaker 2: his capital as a player was significantly higher than almost
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  Speaker 2: anybody else in the market. And I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: you're not trading him for you know, two maybe three
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  Speaker 2: top fifty prospects. And you know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: talk about River Ryan an old prospect. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: townsed player, But again that doesn't make as much much sense.
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  Speaker 2: They are hope nothing against him great prospect, but it
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  Speaker 2: feels like they just took like they just knew they
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  Speaker 2: were going to tradem to the Dodgers, and so they
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  Speaker 2: just took the Dodgers like first offer and just moved them.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like a little let down by the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, everybody else knew he was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be on the market, so go put your best foot
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  Speaker 2: forward and don't get caught behind the eight ball by waiting.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's what happened to a lot of
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  Speaker 2: teams is they did not show up with their best offer,
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  Speaker 2: trying to play the slow game, expecting to be moved
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  Speaker 2: like midday or late Monday, and Dodgers probably looked at him, go,
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  Speaker 2: nobody else's offering us anything. I'm taking the best deal
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  Speaker 2: of moving on and get those things figured out because
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of other guys I want to move.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, the only other thing I look at
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  Speaker 2: it is the Dodgers know that there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 2: pretty heavy discussions on salary cap of those types of things,
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  Speaker 2: and they go, well, that's not yet, So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: make my moves and I'm gonna pay what I can pay.
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  Speaker 2: Let my money talk and I'm gonna go try and
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  Speaker 2: win another World Series and we'll deal with the fallout later.
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  Speaker 2: That's a future Dodgers problem. Now it's a day Dodger problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm with you too. Where
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, it's not like other teams seem
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  Speaker 1: to be trying as hard as the Dodgers are right
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  Speaker 1: now too, so Slash there was certainly I do. I
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  Speaker 1: wish I was on the Tiger side to see like
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  Speaker 1: what the offers worried does sound like the Brewers offer
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  Speaker 1: involved like Luis Payana, Jet Williams and josh Am Chevsky,
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  Speaker 1: which it's not a bad opening lot. You would think
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  Speaker 1: that you could negotiate from there, And honestly, I would
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  Speaker 1: probably have rather have Louise Payana than say your hope.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would too.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, certainly, I think River Ryan put that deal over
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  Speaker 1: the line a little bit. But also like you could
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  Speaker 1: have gone back to the Brewers. They have plenty of
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  Speaker 1: pitching a Bishop Letson or I mean even somebody like
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  Speaker 1: a Logan Henderson.
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  Speaker 2: And brings exactly the name I was thinking was Logan Henderson.
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  Speaker 2: Like Logan Henderson might be a little bit more untouchable.
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  Speaker 2: Henderson has been so good because he might he was
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  Speaker 2: good again, or at least he has been so far
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  Speaker 2: and night I saw at least through the third inding
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  Speaker 2: he was he was doing prettymuch darn good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And so there is that factor I think
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  Speaker 1: from the Tigers as well. On top of like it
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  Speaker 1: does feel like if I were the Tigers, I would
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  Speaker 1: have been asking for just a little bit more from
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers, Like it's not going to kill the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: to chip in a few extra pieces, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: even trying to ask for somebody like an Emeo Morales
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  Speaker 1: or somebody in their kind of complex system where they've
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  Speaker 1: been recently signed and you know that the Dodgers have
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  Speaker 1: a great eye for it, slash or just more pitching.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't see how the Dodgers would have said
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  Speaker 1: no if the Tigers have been, like, okay, throwing a
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  Speaker 1: couple of these high A low A arms just to
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  Speaker 1: kind of give me a little bit more assurance and
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  Speaker 1: a few more shots at something really turning out from this.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it does speak a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more towards like there's just a lot of teams out
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  Speaker 1: there that are coasting and I think it's really kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny to see all the spouting of the propaganda
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  Speaker 1: from the MLB side when you're watching an MLB network
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  Speaker 1: and MLBtv about like we need a cap because it's
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  Speaker 1: for the integrity of the game. All the fans want
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  Speaker 1: it because of make everything even and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like just try, Like the Dodgers are out
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  Speaker 1: there giving their best effort. It feels like every year,
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  Speaker 1: every deadline, every free agent period where it does feel
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  Speaker 1: like you've got some of these other behemoths, especially the Yankees,
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  Speaker 1: I look at where it's like, come on, guys, like
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  Speaker 1: you gotta put some skin in the game, make some
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  Speaker 1: and make some risks of try to overtake the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, let's also not
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  Speaker 1: forget how close the Dodgers were to losing that World
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  Speaker 1: Series in twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: They were.
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  Speaker 1: Multiple times, so like, yeah, this isn't like an unstoppably
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  Speaker 1: hemoth that is wrecking the sport. I think if anything,
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  Speaker 1: it's making all the other teams. In my view, it
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  Speaker 1: shines a light on some of the just less than
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  Speaker 1: stellar ways that they're running their teams when they could
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  Speaker 1: step up to the plate. I think a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more at the Dodgers. Obviously the financial might allows them
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  Speaker 1: to have like a scooball Glass now snell Otani and
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  Speaker 1: just like sign tons of pitchers and figure out which
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  Speaker 1: ones are healthy. But like we'll talk about a little
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  Speaker 1: bit like the Cubs too when we get to that topic.
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  Speaker 1: Because they had to go out and trade for almost
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  Speaker 1: entire rotation. You could have backfilled a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of kind of talent that was sitting
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  Speaker 1: there late towards the end of the off season, or
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  Speaker 1: you know, go out and pursue a Foster Griffin harder
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  Speaker 1: that there's ways to improve your team that. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of teams outside of Los Angeles they're not
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  Speaker 1: pulling those levers in the same way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's outside of Los Angeles and San Diego. I
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  Speaker 2: just think Proler doesn't pull them quite as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's act. You're a pretty good example though. The Padres
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  Speaker 1: do try all the time even though they've got nothing,
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  Speaker 1: and he keeps showing up and keep stacking onto that roster,
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  Speaker 1: trying to make sure that the.
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  Speaker 2: One are the teams that we thought might sell and
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden just decides to buy randomly. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: we're trading our number three and five and seven prospers
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  Speaker 2: on what the numbers were. And then there's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not really saying much in that system.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I mean, they just keep crapping up out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere. Even think he'd run dry, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he ever can in San Diego. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: before we get into the full fallout and focusing mostly
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  Speaker 1: on the fantasy side, but I think there will be
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  Speaker 1: some Baseball card implications on some of these tradeline dead
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  Speaker 1: lie fallouts, especially on the prospects that are moving around
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  Speaker 1: and ones that you might want to be investing in.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into that, though, we still have other
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  Speaker 1: news and notes that happened in terms of call ups
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  Speaker 1: and injuries across the league, So let's dive straight into them,
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  Speaker 1: because along with the trade deadline, the nice thing is
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  Speaker 1: it kind of finally gives you another time to shuffle
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  Speaker 1: rosters and open up spots for big prospects that have
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  Speaker 1: been working their way through the miners. The biggest one
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  Speaker 1: that came up in the last week, Max Clark, outfielder
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  Speaker 1: for the Detroit Tigers, made his debut, got a nice
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  Speaker 1: little off landing spot for the weekend in Sacramento to
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  Speaker 1: be able to play, so he did hit his first
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  Speaker 1: home run and ended up putting up a five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: six hundred and nine to seventeen slash line over three
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  Speaker 1: games against the A's in Sacramento, and before his call
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  Speaker 1: up in TRIPAA was slashing two seventy six, three sixty
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  Speaker 1: eight four thirty four. That's a one to sixteen WRC
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  Speaker 1: plus with eleven homers, twenty one stolen bases, sixty five
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  Speaker 1: runs in ninety games. You know, not a crazy sterling
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  Speaker 1: performance there, but he was only a twenty one year old.
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  Speaker 1: Was drafted in twenty twenty three as the third overall
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  Speaker 1: pick out of high school. So what's your take here
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  Speaker 1: on Max Clark? Is he somebody where you see a
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  Speaker 1: huge upside in his game where that number three overall
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  Speaker 1: pick could portend launching him into fantasy stardom. Or is
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  Speaker 1: this a guy who you know, great fielder, great everyday
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  Speaker 1: baseball player, but maybe not the star for fantasy that
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  Speaker 1: you might be expecting with that draft pick draft pedigree.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if anything, the guy I compare him
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  Speaker 2: most to, it might actually be his teammate and Kevin McGonagall,
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  Speaker 2: Like they're both, you know, complete all round players, not
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  Speaker 2: a single i'll say, exceptional tool, multiple multiple really really
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  Speaker 2: good tools. So this is not like the case of
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  Speaker 2: these guys are above average in a lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: They're really really good in a number of things. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Clark has really strong plate discipline. He's a
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  Speaker 2: speedy guy. He's been always been an efficient based stealer,
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  Speaker 2: probably a top fifteen twenty percentile speed type of guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's probably gonna be a twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 2: homer guy. He's gonna fill out more. He is not.
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  Speaker 2: He's on the smaller side, five eleven, but still he's
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  Speaker 2: two of five. He's going to be built pretty well
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  Speaker 2: at that, a very strong fielder, and like I said,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna get on base. He walks a decent amount.
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  Speaker 2: So he's just a very very complete player at a
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  Speaker 2: young age, being only twenty one. He won't be twenty
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  Speaker 2: two until you know, almost the end of the year here,
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  Speaker 2: and so I look at that very similar to like
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  Speaker 2: a seven gone gole guy. This is going to be
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  Speaker 2: really really solid Philip the stat sheet. He's probably not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be your go crazy kind of guy that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get on these hot streaks like a Elle de la
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  Speaker 2: Cruz or a James Wood or any like that who
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  Speaker 2: just does these phenomenal, amazing things with these crazy tools.
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  Speaker 2: But day and day out, he's gonna be a guy
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  Speaker 2: that shows up, puts the numbers up, and just continues
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  Speaker 2: to plug away. And you're gonna come back and look
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the season and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: like a twenty five to twenty five two ninety type
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  Speaker 2: season and you're gonna be absolutely thrilled with it. So like,
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  Speaker 2: put me in between the McGonagle and the PCA type
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  Speaker 2: of thing with Max Clark, And I know that's high praise,
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  Speaker 2: but I really think that's the kind of guy that
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  Speaker 2: he will. He can't peak to. Is that gonna be
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  Speaker 2: right now? Probably not. He's gonna have some growing pains,
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  Speaker 2: But I think I really I like Max Clark a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I am close to you,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little less effusive where I mean. I think
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  Speaker 1: that it would be a real long shot to see
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  Speaker 1: Max Clark I think reach the heights of like a
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  Speaker 1: PCA or Corbyn Carroll. For me, I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more in like the Jackson maryli Ish mold.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean Merril has been in and out of
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  Speaker 1: that kind of conversation from time to time, and I
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  Speaker 1: think there will be a couple of peak years in
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  Speaker 1: Clark's profile where you know, he starts giving more of
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  Speaker 1: like second round value in terms of fantasy. But I
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  Speaker 1: think you're looking more at like a day in, day out,
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  Speaker 1: play him every every week, number two, number three outfielder
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  Speaker 1: sort of situation. I mean, maybe number one, where it's
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  Speaker 1: like you can get by with him as your number one,
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  Speaker 1: But I think I preferm as my number two, just
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  Speaker 1: because I think the power is probably a little capped
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  Speaker 1: at like twenty five, especially in the ballpark. Two. This
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  Speaker 1: taculus changes a little bit if it's not in Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: and the speed will We'll see, like, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: stole down on the miners, but not like prolifically, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. He put up twenty nine stolen
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  Speaker 1: bases at twenty twenty four nineteen last year, but was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more nicked up I think last year too,
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like he's one of those dudes who's
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  Speaker 1: putting up fifty sixty stolen bags in the miners. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, something like a two sixty
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  Speaker 1: to two eighty average with twenty to twenty five homers,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five steals, maybe even closer to thirty steels
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, great, great counting status as he is at
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  Speaker 1: the top of that what should be a pretty solid
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  Speaker 1: Tigers lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of funny to talk about the Tigers
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  Speaker 2: of school and calling up Clark here as far as
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  Speaker 2: like kind of a change into the garden a way,
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  Speaker 2: like this team looks like they're going to continue to
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  Speaker 2: get better and better. Yeah, just not as on the
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  Speaker 2: pitching side of things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Like I mean, there's a good shot they
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  Speaker 1: still win this division. I mean they're five and a
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  Speaker 1: half out now as we're speaking, because they fell apart
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  Speaker 1: over a little bit over the past couple days. But
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  Speaker 1: Jackson jobs to be back soon. Jack Flaherty should be
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  Speaker 1: making his way back. Unfortunately, that's about where it drives
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  Speaker 1: out because after trading Maze and Schooble, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of holes in that rotation. But the lineup is fine,
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  Speaker 1: So you'll see what the Tigers can do down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: Next call up, we have is George Lombard Junior being
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  Speaker 1: promoted in New York as the Yanks sent Anthony Volpi
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  Speaker 1: down to the miners again. So George Lombard Junior homer
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  Speaker 1: tonight actually off of the off the Cardinals and going
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  Speaker 1: Appo Taco there for his No, it wasn't Opa Taco,
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  Speaker 1: my bad. I've for some reason thought he was left handed.
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  Speaker 1: He's right handed. But George Lumbard Junior had a pretty
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  Speaker 1: solid stat line down in Triple A and across two
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  Speaker 1: levels this year. It was a two eighty four four
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  Speaker 1: to eleven four eighty nine, four ninety eight slash line,
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  Speaker 1: a one forty WRC plus twelve homers fourteen stolen bases,
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  Speaker 1: So a little more power that he showed for Max
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  Speaker 1: than Max Park, which maybe he's a little unexpected because
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  Speaker 1: he's a wiry dude, but a little bit bigger frame
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  Speaker 1: on George Lombard Junior where he's still filling out. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm never gonna shake it. Maybe the worst
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  Speaker 1: photoshop bowman first card I've ever seen, So shout out
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  Speaker 1: to that for George Lombard Junior really kind of wrecked
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  Speaker 1: his reputation. But son of a big leaguer. You know
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  Speaker 1: that played a long time for the Braves and others.
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  Speaker 1: So what's your take here in George Lombard junior, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe how he compares to Max Clark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I do like Lombard. I'm definitely gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a step back from from Clark here. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the power is as strong for Lombard. He did
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  Speaker 2: hit twelve homers across twenty one games the Miners this year,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit elevated home run for fly ball rate
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  Speaker 2: for kind of his his profile historically throughout the minor
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  Speaker 2: leagues until this year, he was like a five or
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  Speaker 2: seven percent homewned fly ball rate kind of guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: been more than double that this year. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: think with that wiry frame that he all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden just grew into this power. And so I think
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  Speaker 2: he's probably a teens power guy, but with a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more speed upside to your point the wirey frame.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been historically with Yankees prospects, Yes, Ben Rice
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: has been phenomenal and he's worked out, but when was
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the guy The last guy before been Rice that that
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: was probably Aaron Judge. And we've had a lot of
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of zeros in between there with the Volpays
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: of the world, and I'm still still far a Allen
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Spencer Jones, so I've already written him off, which is
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: probably not fair to any means. But I'm a little
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: more hesitant in this profile. I think there's some speed here,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: but I do think that there's gonna be a little
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: bit more of an adjustment period for this kind of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: bat so I'm hopeful. I want to see what happens,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: but I think this is a guy that's more in
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: your speed specialist type category, and there's a decent amount
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of guys in that type of role across the majors
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: right now, and that's why I'm not gonna be investing
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: too heavily on Lombard unless I can see him really
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: carrying a batting average. But I think it's probably gonna
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: be i'll call it the two fifty range type of
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: batting average, and if you look at any of the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you know, steam or anything like that, they're calling for
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like a two fifteen. So I maybe a bullish I
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: guess on that, but I don't know. What are your
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Lombard?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, I'm I don't know where they're getting
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: those projections from. You know, it is two fifteen to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: two thirty, but he's never I mean, I guess he
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: did that in twenty twenty five at Double A, but like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: here's a twenty year old at Double A at the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: end of the season, like getting his feet wet, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy who The thing here is
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that the glove will carry Lombard pretty far. And the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yankees I think are just done with Anthony Volpi. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: think they're done with the kind of negativity that seemingly
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: surrounds him, even though it's mostly just from online bases,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think, and I mean there's an element to it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: in the park from those from the Yankee bleacher creatures,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but I think that gives Lombard a pretty decent runway
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to stick at shortstop here for the Yankees, probably not
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: expecting a ton of from him this year. But I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't think it's actually as low as the projection, So
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I would take I would take maybe like a two
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to fifty batting average here and something like the pace
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of like ten homers and twenty five stone bases, so
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: certainly usable at m I in plenty of leagues and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, but you know nothing world being At
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the same time, I will say that the fact that
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he got to the bigs so quickly is more hopeful
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I think for the long term impact here on what
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you're looking at for George Lumbard Junior. But I think
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a little bit more of like a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: batting average upside with speed and kind of counting stats
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: around it, almost like a Auto Lopez ish but maybe
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not as much batting average because I don't know if
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: he's quite got the same back control that Lopez does.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: The other X factor will be whether or not the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: walk rate from the minor league sticks, because you see
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this sometimes and it really strikes me with guys that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: maybe don't have the prospect report power the way that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Lombard has is that is the walk rate real? Is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the I reel or is there an element of he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is the son of a big leaguer and knows that
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: in the minor leagues they can't hit their spots and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: if you get on base, you can rack up a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: good OBP and move up the ladder quickly. So we'll
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: see if the If the walk rate sticks, it's a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: little bit of a different story because then I think
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you have the upside for maybe like a forty stolen
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: based season out of Lombard. But you know, as long
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: as the OBP is, you know, in the three twenty
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: ish average, it's gonna be a little bit more of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like an m option I think in most leagues.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fair.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. Next call up we have is Hector Rodriguez, outfielder
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Reds. I mean, all he's been doing
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: is mashing throughout the mind. It's been kind of a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: long time coming for him. You know, started in DSL
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: as a seventeen year old in twenty twenty one and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: has pretty much hit his entire way up through the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: minor leagues, but has never really kind of gotten that
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: next level of prospect pedigree because of the aggressiveness at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the plate. We're talking about a guy who is regularly running,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you know, eighteen percent k rates with like less than
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: five percent walk rates in the minors. But in TRIPA
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: A he did bring up the k rate and the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: walk rate added some more power. Twenty seven homers and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: six dolen bases over one hundred and four games with
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a two seventy four, three forty seven, five thirty three
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: batting average, a one to twenty three WRC plus somebody
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: who I've always I'm not totally sure like where I'm at,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: because like, the numbers are great. The numbers are great,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: but then like it's really hard to find prospect evaluators
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that are in on him, and I can't tell if
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it's somebody who's gonna be who he is or can
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: play to the numbers that he put up in the miners.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: One kind of X factor here is that he plays
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, gets a great ballpark. They should give him
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: full run if he can hit and stick. So what
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: do you see out of Hector Rodriguez here with the Reds.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is definitely one that I'm not too excited about.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'll just be just very very blunt about it. The
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: numbers look good, and you can't deny that, right. A
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: guy that has twenty seven homers in the miners is
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: hard to ignore. The bill is not necessarily there for me,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: but it is really the plate discipline that scares the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Jesus out of me here. If you look at what
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: he does as far as just this year, at his
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: swinging that pitches outside the zone, he has a thirty
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: seven percent swing rate outside the zone at Triple A.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: For context, Triple A averages like twenty five percent, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that this was is his best year by ten points,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: not ten percent, ten points from his minor league career.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Last year in the miners, he was a forty six
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: percent chase rate outside of the zone. This guy is
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a free swinger, and when you got the got some pop,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you can make make that work. But at the same time,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: he's got lucky again. From the home run flyball rate,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it's double his career. So if you take his twenty
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: seven homeworns, cut it in half and you get some
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: guys that are exploited this aggressive style outside the zone,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you're looking like a two twenty hitter with with like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: ten homers like that. That's what I'm scared about. Yes,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Great Great America Ballpark can do some things for you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: There are just red flags all around this profile for
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: me that I feel like we're having a career year
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: at Triple A, and I just I just don't see
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: him like cementing himself unless this is like the second
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: coming of you. Heenemosures for the Reds here, so I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: generally out of that. I try to be terribly negative
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: about the minor leaguer's coming up. But I just I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: not seeing much here that I'm interested in.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm there with you where I think it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Although it's a little bit of a different approach, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: think it kind of gets into the same mold as
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: like a Joe Adele where it's gonna be a lot
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of strikeouts. Part of it is because Joe the way
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Adell comes by is because he's got a pregrooved swing.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Hector Hector Rodriguez does not have that. He's a very
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: dynamic swing because like he's chasing that much, but he's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: still only caing eighteen percent of the time. That's I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: think this is part of why it's so hard, been
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: so hard to evaluate. I don't I can't think of
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: anybody that's in this mold, Like you don't find players
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that swing outside the zone that much, make that much
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: contact with decent power. You know. It's it's a Luisa
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Rise approach with like a Joe Adell outcome, and it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: gonna be really intriguing to see if it can work.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So like, I think that gives him like a little
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: bit of like a question mark factor to where he
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he could surprise, because like, we don't see profiles like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: this a lot in Major League Baseball, partly because it
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: just it's really hard to move up through the miners
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: with this. But he produced at a different level and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the Reds really need to give him a shot to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: see if it can stick. If it can, I mean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I like I said, I think the median outcome is
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Adell, But there is a little bit more intrigue
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: for the upside for me, because like, if it does,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: if there is something like pre natural about his just
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: eye and the ability to put the bat on the ball,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you can morph that a little bit, I would think
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: at the big league level and we'll see if it
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: can work for Rodriguez. But for twenty twenty six, it's
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit more of like a hey, I'll pick
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: him up if I need him a fourth and fifth
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: outfielder desperately. But it will be fascinating to see what
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: he does on the stretch, because I think he's gonna
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: be a fun evaluation going into twenty twenty seven. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I agree, Okay, let's get into our last call up.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Who also, I mean, he's already gone down. He got
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: promoted on Saturday. I believe and then demoted. Here as
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we're speaking on Tuesday, we're talking left hander from the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, Quinn Matthews, who looked okay in that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: debut over the weekend, held his own with a debut
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of five innings and two earned runs, three walks, three k's.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: You know, the biggest thing is I just like to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: see a guy not really like fall apart nerves wise,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and I think Matthews held in that vein for us. Now.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: It has been a very up and down performance for
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Matthews the past couple of years. You know, twenty twenty
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: four off the charts great, put him on every type
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of prospect list you can think of. Twenty twenty five
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: was down and was bad, and injury came out. The
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: gate could not find the zone in twenty twenty six,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the last month or so, you know, you look at
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: his production in trip La since the beginning of June
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: until his call up, it was a one to fifty
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: five VRA over fifty two and a third innings and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: fifty nine k's during that time. The walks are still
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit high at nineteen there, but certainly better
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: than they had been. And it seems like he also
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: had found a ticker to more of velocity. I've been
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: kind of tracking him a lot for my VP pieces,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: so covered them this past week if you want to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: go check that out. What's your take here on Matthews,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: because obviously he got sent back down I think he'll
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: probably be up pretty soon again, that the Cardinals especially
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: might move to a bit of a six man rotation
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: because Kyle Lay He's going to start running out of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: innings at some point, as well as some of these
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: other younger arms. So is Matthew somebody worth adding and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: stashing even though he got sent back downe to the.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Miners for you, Yeah, I mean, I think in deeper
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: leagues it's worth it. I mean, to your point, he
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: was really really strong for the last two months in
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the miners. Walks is the concern here, That control is
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a concern, But there's not a lot standing in the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: way at that major league raw stir for for the Cardinals.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: You can literally look at almost every spot in that rotation.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe not your your your boy Michael McGreevy here, but
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: between one hundred Dobbins, Andre Polante, Kyley and Matthew Lebator,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: like there's nothing like he could He could slot into
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the number two right now if he wanted to. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that's not a compliment actually, Quinn Matthews. It's maybe more
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of a detriment to the rest of the way that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the team is pitched. But I think he's a deep
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: league streaming option at this point in time. But we
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: really have to see that that control improve and stick
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: for us to consider him as much more in my opinion.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And again, big Cardinals fan, uh and see a ton
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of potential in him, but for what we're looking at
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: this year, it's more of a streaming option for me.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm there with you, although I will
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: stand up for my boy Andre Polante, who has been
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: pretty good this year. I don't know. I mean, I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I kind of do, you know, because I've been watch
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the fastball has improved, like he tweaked the fastball and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it's really helped. And yeah, he's been great.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: He's a very good real world pitcher rather than a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: fantasy pitcher. That's the problem.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He's been a useful fantasy pitcher too. He's he's been
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: sneaking by nothing special from the strikeout side, but the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: ratios have been pretty solid. But yeah, I do agree
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that there's some something a little Matthew Libertre esque with
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Quinn Matthews, but I have a little more faith in
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Matthew's making it work because the fastball just plays better
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: than what Libertur has got in his arsenal. So yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I think that he's an ad in stash. Probably in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like fifteen teamers, twelve teamers, you can make him more
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of a watch, but I'd be adding him right when
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it comes back up. Yeah, all right, you're ready for
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: some injuries because we've.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Got some no.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Big ones again, so we've just got a handful. But
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the theme of this year has been injuries to first
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: rounders back in our March drafts. Now we're getting injuries
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: to maybe first rounders in our future March drafts for
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. The one that just happened before we
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: started recording this evening, James Wood hitting the IL for
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals oblique strain left the game on Monday night,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and I think they're still waiting for like everything to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: come back because the MRI, I think happened this morning,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: but they knew it was a significant enough oblique strain
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: that an il stint was needed, right away. So I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: looking at maybe six to eight weeks, and as we're
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: speaking on August fourth, twenty twenty six, eight weeks is
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the end of the season. So so what are you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: doing with James Wood. Is this somebody where hey, if
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you're desperate enough in a redraft league, you might need
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to clear out the space, drop James Wood. Or is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: it such a great profile that you're not worried about
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: just the roster space at this point that you just
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: want the talent and you'll even take the last week
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: or two of James Wood at this point.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's fresh enough. And the initial kind of
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: commentary is that it's subtle or mild, like it it
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't read to me a that we we're we've really
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: done something that reads to me that we're being a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: little cautious. And so because of that, like you absolutely
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: cannot cut James Wood. I get the like frustration and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: want to do it, But he could be back in
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: two weeks, it might be eight weeks. Like I it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: hard to know with this one, but I think the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: histogram of options sorry talking like an actuary, it sounds like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: but the probability of options between weeks two, three, four five, Like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I think it's on the shorter side of that. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: this guy has such a dynamic capability that even if
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he is eighty percent of himself when he gets back,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that's still a really, really good player. And so I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I'm parking on my il, parking my bench of my ful,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: which feels like at this point it probably is, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: hoping for the best. You're probably not going to find
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a better guy to pick off the waiver wire than
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: James Wood coming back in two three weeks and being
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: a partial, partial guy relative to where he's been the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: whole season. So I'm sitting status quo. We learn more
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: about this one. I think that is fair that if
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the Nationals fully fallout and this ends up being worse
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: than what we're kind of seeing right now, then yeah,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: you can start having that consideration, because that's when you
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: get mid September with these these types of things, you're
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: shutting down. You're getting shut down. So don't don't don't
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: sit on this one. Pay attention to it, but for
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: now you got to hold yep.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. If it is the end of
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the season, it would be an incredible value for where
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: he was going in drafts. Would put up a two
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: sixty five, three ninety three, five thirty five slash line
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: in five hundred and thirty five plate appearances, thirty homers,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: seventeen song vases, got two triple digit runs for you,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So that's pretty huge. Easy first rounder next year, right like.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely mid mid first rounder. It's not better.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: It's he right behind probably the big five that we
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: always talk about of Otani Judge with Jose Ramirez, Ellie is,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is would six for you?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I I think I might actually would five. I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I may have pushed him ahead of Jose Ramirez this,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but he's right there. And a lot of
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: this comes down to health for some of those other guys. Well,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe all of those guys as we talk
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: about it, I'm trying to think of, like which one
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't hurt at some point this season. I think they've
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: all been hurt. So what that's next year's storyline is,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: is your first round We're gonna be healthy this year?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Yep. And I think I'm there with you that I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: would rather have them PCA as well, just because the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: power does not sleep.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Scars of the Jesus out of me. He's so gushed,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: are and talented, but like he feels O'Neil cruz estiny
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: at times. We're like, man, he's playing just hair on
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: fire and the wheels could fall off at some point.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but man, the guy scares of
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the cheeses out of me as my first rounder.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that boils down. That's going to be a fascinating
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: conversation I think for us in twenty seven because with
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: PCA as well, like he is definitely one of those
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: players where we talk about it sometimes where there's a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: roto player and there's a head to head guy, and like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in head to head you need a little more steadiness
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and you might fade them down your draft board. PCA
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is classically that, because he's so hot and cold. In
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a roto league, you just put him in your lineup
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: set forget all year.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: You just wish he was on the West Coast and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: so you could go to bed and just wake up
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: at tomorrow and not really realize what happened.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, but in a head to head league like it
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: can cost you weeks because if the hot productions all
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: clustered in a few weeks, that doesn't really help you
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: as much when you're trying to get steady production. Okay,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: well the other one we're talking about, I mean, I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: think he probably will be going at the back end
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of first rounds. Nick Kurt's first basement of the athletics
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: going down with this is a weird injury. This is
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a thumb injury where they're being a little bit facetious
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: about what it is slush because like, I don't know
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: if they can quite put their finger on it, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: pun intended. It's a little bit like Roman Anthony, where
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony has been dealing with like a sprain slash
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: tear in one of his tendons in his hands, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Nick Kurts this is in the same
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: sort of range. So they are making it sound like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it's a relatively minor injury and that he should be
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: back relatively quickly and just got placed on the IL today.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But it's also his second IL stint of the season
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: after also going down with the hand injury, I mean,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago. So you're also talking
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a guy who went down with a hip flexus strain
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: last year. There's a lot of tendon niese strains in
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: poles and sprains for Nick Kurts that are racking up
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: pretty quick. So I am pocketing it in the back
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of my head for that. But is this a concerning
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: pattern for you or is this kind of like a Hey,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz is getting used to what it takes to
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: play one hundred and sixty two games a year, and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you got here of your ups and downs, but you're
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: not terribly worried. Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm not terribly worried yet. And I think it's
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: because it's more of that thumb injury. Like if we
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: were talking a back or a wrist or something like that,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: then I might be a little bit more concerned. It's
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: not typically you see that like hand injuries themselves ten
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: like recurring, especially in the younger guys. So I'm kind
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: of chucking it up as they did love to get
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: healthy and or he pushed too hard and he just
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: needs the time off. I'm actually a little more worried
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: about Kurtz getting back this year than I am James
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Wood because the athletics are so far out of it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I did look to see what the draft position was
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: last two off seasons, and who knows what the CBA
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. But I you know, they're in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: kind of the race of the bottom right now as
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: as things are concerned, and they have every reason just
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: let all the They have a lot of guys that
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: are in this kind of middling like are they going
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to be something or not? And they have all the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: reason in the world to let those guys, uh, you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Tommy White's and honestly, Lawrence Butler, Henry Bolte, Carlos Cortez
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like all those guys trying to figure out who they're
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be and rushing Nick Kurtz back. I don't think
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: it really gains you anything. So I think this is
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: what I'm a little bit more willing to watch and see.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Have we seen the end of Nick Kurtz for this year?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Hey? I mean in terms of gaming things. Don't tell
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that to the Nick Kurtz Red Card RC or the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: red RC cards, yeah bos that are hanging out out there.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think that's a very fair take.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Next injury, we have first baseman slash outfielder from the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates, Bryan O'Hearn going down with a left quad strain. Again.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: This one's it sounds like it's six to eight weeks,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: so he's going to be right on the precipice of
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: coming back this season or not. I think this one
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: is firmly in the camp if you can go ahead
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and cut them if you're running out of space, because
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it's been steady production, but it's not otherworldly. So especially
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: where you drafted Ryan O'Hearn the two seventy three thirty
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: four four fifty four slash line one fourteen WRC plus
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: over three hundred and ninety eight played appearances was fantastic.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Matched career high seventeen homers put up sixty nine RBI
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: for you, which was also career high at this point.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Was a steady corner infield, outfield option, I think across
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the board. So with this conversation, I think I want
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to shade a little bit more towards what are you
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: doing with this profile going to twenty twenty seven, because
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: o'hearne has certainly carved out a great spot for himself
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: on this Pirates roster, and we'll be there through twenty
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: twenty seven the end of next year, so I mean
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: we'll be another one of those guys where the Pirates
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: are out of it. May be on the trade block,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: but has shown some pretty good things. So what does
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: o'harn look like for you going forward? Yeah, I think.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: O'Hearn is solidly in that back of the corner infield
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: type of conversation.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? And a big part of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it like he has been solid to your point, very
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: very solid, and that's kind of what you're looking at
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: in that position. The problem I have with O'Hearn is
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: he is a platoon bat, playing every day, and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: think that's really hurt him against lefties this year, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: he's sixty three games somehow only managed one hundred twelve
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: bats against lefties there, hitting two twenty three with four homers,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: fifteen r runs and seventeen RBIs. That's not very good,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: but it's good for a seventy one WRC plus. And
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: so he's done all his damage against rieties, not much
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: against lefties. But he's in there all the time, and
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: so he gives you the mirage of a full time
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: player with the stats of a part time player. And
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I think that intentionally putting it on your team versus
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: falling back into it is different strategies. I would not
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: target this kind of profile. I happened into it because
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this is of what's left out there, and then you
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: kind of cobble some platoon guys together and ended up
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: being very happy. So I'm kind of, like I said,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: putting them towards the back of the corner infield conversation.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: But I probably won't own a whole lot of shares.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yep. I think that's all very fair because on top
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: of it too, like that's a great call out. If
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: you're in a daily league, like you can just play
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: them only against Righty's, certainly that value goes up. But
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: if you're using him in weekly leagues, it does start
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: to degrade faster as you get shallower and shallower. But
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: great deeply option, great daily league option, and somebody who yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: certainly great name to readd at the end of any drafts.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I think. Next injury, we have Shane McClanahan going down
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: with a back injury. It's been called just back toiteness
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: for now, and uh, we'll see how it unfolds for
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season. But honestly, it's been better
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: than I expected on McClanahan this year that he certainly
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: started rounding into form. It didn't look great at the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: beginning of the season, but he found a little bit
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: more of his groove, starts stretching out more, starting to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: find a little bit more of his velocity. Ninety nine
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: innings of a three h nine RA with a one
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: twelve whip, and the PIP was at three point thirty
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: one three thirty six at BP compared to other places.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: The FIP calculations off by like just a little bit,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: so I have to like look at that every once
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: in a while. Because the other component here too is
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I've really been leaning into DRA minus from BP because
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it's been better for me when I use that as
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: an evaluation tool than FIP or stuff plus or anything
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like that. And there it's been a DRA minus that
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: matched his twenty twenty three DRA minus of a ninety,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: so he's been a little bit better than league average
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: under the hood. And A minus also has a like
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a future looking component to it as well, that it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: not like FIP where it's just only looking at your
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: production without kind of like I don't know how the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: calculation works. I'm not going to try to up that
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I do, but it's been pretty solid from Shane McClanahan
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: is what I'm getting to. And you know, I'm okay,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: strike out right at twenty two point two percent, but
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: another injury cropping up here. So what do you do
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in with Shane McClanahan in any kind of future looking sense,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: especially in like dynasty keeper situations, somebody that you are
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: willing to hang your hat on as somebody you might
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: want to be pursuing for a twenty twenty seven By.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say he's more on the watch list
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: for me long term, like the rest of the season.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: You know, they think he'll miss a few starts and
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: hopefully we'll be back, but he's definitely in that kind
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: of hurt a lot category and it makes me feel
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: like Sus Spencer Strider two degree, which I can you
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: know is not probably fair to either of them, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the guy that had an amazing talent, the injuries wrecked up.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like they've been the same absolute
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: powerhouse they were before. Mcclanahan's actually probably looked better by
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: many means, but the stuff doesn't quite It just hasn't
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: quite been there. And so we're talking probably a high threes,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: low fors era, a type of guy middling strikeouts like
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's just one of those profiles that I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: don't think is as in demand is what the name
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: value would would probably suggest. So I'm kind of fading
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: him a little bit. I'm maybe maybe he's just gonna
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: continue to build things up up up, and get back
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to that same velocity that he had. But it seems
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: like guys coming back from from these types of injuries
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: over the years lose a little bit of spin, lose
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit of velocity, and that just kind of
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: takes him back steps. So I'm watching, I'm probably not
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: actively investing. Maybe I'm just learned finally over the years.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe talking to me in the spring, and I'm actually
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: fully on board to the injuries. But I think that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: this is one of those guys that I just don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: have the long term faith in. And you look at
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: actually how they've handled this year. He's barely made out
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: of the fifth inning on almost every game. They're playing
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: with kids gloves, and I think we sometimes underestimate the
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: workhorse value of guys. And you look at the rate
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: stats and things like that're like, hey, this is great,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: but then you forget you're getting five innings out of
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: them every start, and somebody else you're getting seven. And
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the fact that they have a little bit lower k
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: raid or something like that, they still come out way
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: way far ahead. You get the wins, you get those
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: other options. So I'm soured a little bit on a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: clean hand, and I'm probably not investing very high next year.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think what I'm a little torn here.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm a tick higher than you, just
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: because like I know myself as a fancy player that
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I can plan around, like the injuries and the lower
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: valume where this reminds me it's a lot of like
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: prime Rich Hill, and so like that's how I'm trying you. Well,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, primary Chillill was.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Was valuable, was on the mound. I guess I just
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I exposed Brent Woodruff like two weeks ago, how amazing
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: he was with the same argument. So I have no
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: no room to stand.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, when you're looking at like kind
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of piecing together your entire team for a season, if
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: you have McClanahan out of the draft, I'm really only
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: counting like one hundred, one hundred and twenty innings. So honestly,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: right there, it's probably already disqualifying in a redraft. So
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the only spot that I'm going to end up with
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: McClanahan is in a keeper of Dynasty situation where I've
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: gotten him cheaper than what the market's valuing him at,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And then you got to know if that works for
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: your strategy or not. Are you somebody who finds pitching well.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Are you ready to go with the roller coaster ups
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and downs of trying to stream two starters and find
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: new guys. Are you willing to really pinpoint in on
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: streamable guys when they're pitching, you know, in Saint Louis
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: and in Texas and some of these other spots and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: really stay on top of the game. Or are you
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: somebody you want a rotation where you can just plug
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: it and let it play. Then if you're in that
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: ladder camp McLanahan, you can't be easing because you've got
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: to be able to work around the fringes of your
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: roster to be able to make sure that you have
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the support behind McClanahan to go the entire season. So
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: on top of it too, I do think that there's
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: a chance that the Rays stretch him out a little
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: bit more next year. They did this with Drew Rasmussen
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: when he came back from his latest elbow surgery where
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: that first season he came back, it was like five innings,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: four innings, five innings, four innings, and so he was
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: killing you if you're in a QS league especially, But
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a little less concerned about that with
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: McClanahan into twenty seven, because you know, he just put
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: ninety nine good innings underneath his belt. If this back
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: injury isn't anything, then he should get up to like
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: one twenty ish, which is pretty crazy considering he hadn't
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: pitched since twenty twenty three. But there is also a
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: slipper of like that back injury when you're talking these
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: injured guys. When you said Spencer Strider, I was thinking
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: that too, because it's like, it doesn't take much when
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: these injured guys start getting their mechanics off or something's
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: barking a little bit, it can really get out of
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: whack fast. So it's a high risk approach, but I
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: think if you know what you're doing and you know
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: how to build around your team for it, he can
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: be a useful number two, number three fantasy starter. I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: think going forward, for you, all right, we have one
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: last injury, and this one really had some domino effects
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: on the trade deadline, because we'll get into it with
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers talk. Dalton Rushing catcher for the Dodgers, going
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: down with an injury and placed on the IL with
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: a mild elbowster is what they're calling getting his right elbow.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Has been fantastic two fifty three, three thirty five, four
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: seventy five slash line with twelve homers and thirty six
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: RBI in seventy four games as a twenty five year
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: old was mashing it out of the park. And now
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: we'll be on the IL. We'll see what this elbow
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: entry turns into. But how has your view of Dalton
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Rushing changed with this stretch run that he's had in
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if it's actually decreased my faith in
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: him long term, and that's because I think people don't
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: realize how bad he's been since that early hot start,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: so since the beginning of May. So we're talking three
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: months now, and he was full, full time starter that
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: whole time. Because Will Smith's been kind of around. He's
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: a few weeks away. You mentioned his his line since
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: the beginning of May two twenty eight, three eleven three
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: seventy four, he's been pretty bad. He's struck out thirty
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: percent of the time since that. He's got five homewors
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: over those three months. And do you know where the
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Dodgers had him batting last, dead last in the lineup?
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It is the Dodgers. I get it, but it seems
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: like that they had they were souring on him, and
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: he just hasn't been producing. And it's not like he's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: had bad luck his baby. It's actually three h nine
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: for his with that kind of uh say, speed and
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: things that should should actually be lower than that, So
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: he's actually been gotten some luck. So I'm I'm a
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: little bit concerned that if I have Rushing, I'm probably
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: trying to move him, because his overall line still looks
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: pretty gosh darn good, but it looks like he's been
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: exposed to some degree by the majors and hasn't quite
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: figured it out. And Will Smith will be back, and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Will Spith isn't going anywhere, and so I think Rushing
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: is gonna be I hate to make the comp I
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: think he's also and Barnes, I think he's gonna be
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: this this guy that had one or two hot months
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna be stuck in purgatory between behind will
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Smith and then cast off. Maybe I'm being a little
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: too negative here, but I'm not really thrilled, and that's
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: probably not the popular opinion about Dalton Russian.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it was a little bit
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: of an unlucky stretch in May two. Since Junior's been
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit better and the x wobas in league average,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's fine as a catcher. Like I think
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that there's not a whole much a whole bunch more upside,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: but like he's probably a top fifteen catcher for me,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's kind of like, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he's nothing like super duper special where I'm out there
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like thinking that he's the next hot thing and in
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: fantasy dynasty keeper situations where like, honestly it's still probably
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: rather have like an anal Haandro Kirk or a Yanyar
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Diaz in a little bit more of a long term situation.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So I think he's fine, is what it's.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Been where you're valuing because I think there's a lot
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: of folks that see him as the top five catcher
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: long term, and I think that's the issue is to
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: you when you said top fifteen. I'm actually not that
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: far off of that. But I think people are treating
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: him like he should be a top five catcher because
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: he's on the Dodgers and he looked really good in
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: his overall stat line's pretty solid. But I since June one,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: he struck out thirty four percent of the time, like
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: he has struggled.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You can do that as a catcher, Yeah, you can
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: He's still hit two Sunday forward during that time frames
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: like it can it can play. But if you're looking
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: at him as a catcher too, I'm a lot more
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: comfortable with that. I just think people are expecting that
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a catcher one on the better
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: half of that as well.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is very fair. Yeah, I'm not
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: certainly in that territory. But yeah, in terms of the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: kind of massive mid portion of catchers that we have,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: he's writing that lump with me. With me, I'm not
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: in that lump, but with everybody else. Okay, Well, let's
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: check out that baseball card release calendar in the show
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: notes that we've got. So the couple of changes that
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: we have. Our Tops Museum collection pre order is set
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: for August seventeenth. We are speaking on the fourth actually tomorrow,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: if you're in New York, you can swing by the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: MLB store to get twenty twenty six tops chrome logo
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Fractor will be in store at the MLB store. Doesn't
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: release widely, you know, to hobby shops or online until
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the nineteenth, but get you a little bit of a
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of an insider track if
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: you're trying to get some of those hot kind of
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Griffins or something out of that. Those boxes will also
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: be totally wrecked if like the one of one auto
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: gets pulled out that out of the New York City store,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: which also maybe tells you it might not be there.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but those people love those logo fractors, So
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: if you're in New York, buy as many as you can,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: because you you're going to build like double your money
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: on them on the other resale market with those boxes,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: like people are gonna want them. If they it's two weeks,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it is a pretty big gap to have to get
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: them actually in stores across the rest of the the country.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: So if you're in New York, pick up some logo
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Fractor boxes. Send one our way, just as maybe research.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I'm very open to that.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I'll take one as well. I'm not going to turn
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: that down. Okay, well, let's going to wrap us up
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: for this portion. We're gonna take a small break, collect
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: our wits so that we can return and talk about
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: all those trade deadline boobs. All right, Welcome back, everybody.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: We're going to just run through every team and the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: implications of their trade deadline moves what it's going to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: shake out for on the fancy side, And like I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: said in the in the intro of this pod, I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: think there's also going to be some hard implications here
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: too because of the prospects that moved. You know, we
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: did have a handful of top one hundred guys move,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: which has not happened quite as often, it feels like
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: over the less few deadlines, as most teams have become
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: prospect huggers. But we've got some movement and young guys too,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: some other young guys where you know, some challenge trades
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: going on and stuff like that. So I think there's
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a lot to unpack from all these trades. I'm also
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: going to touch a little bit on like there's some
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: other movements in terms of like DFAs and cuts and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: options and promotions that have kind of happened in the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: wake of these things, as well as other kind of
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: each team, you know, they have to now rebuild some
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: rotations where looking at you, New York Mets woke up
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: today and did not have more than like two pitchers
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and they're starting rotation, so trying to figure things out
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: from there. I'm just using the MLB Trade Rumors list,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: so if I miss one, blame them, but hopefully we
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: can maybe catch it too. But I have faith in them.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I think they did a pretty thorough job. I respect
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: everything that they put together. It's a lot to cover.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Shout out to anybody that was doing any of the
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: writing for this that I didn't have to do it,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: thankfully on the BP side from the fantasy, because the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: homepages on all of the websites out there for baseball
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: writing are just littered with transaction analysis after transaction analysis
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: because of the volume of trades we're talking. So we're
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: gonna go alphabetically. You ready, This is gonna feel little
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: bit weird because you should we go alphabetically like AL
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and NL when we do these types of previews. Are
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you going to be ready for an all MLB a dise.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to handle this,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: but I'm glad that we have you at the helm
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: to direct us through this. So let's see. Let's see
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: where we go.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's start in Arizona with the Dbacks. Pretty
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: straightforward little trade deadline for them. They picked up Lars Newtbar,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: sent Daniel Egan, a pitcher, and Sondra Santana over to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals in relief. Well, Santana is in relief, but
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: in exchange for Newbar, Santana's a little bit more of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like a lefty reliever. Probably not a lot of fantasy
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: or Baseball card implications. Egan was one of the bigger
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: pitching prospects that the Dbacks had and was pitching for
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: them in Double A, so probably more of a twenty
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: twenty seven person to look forward to for the Cardinals.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Lars Nubar is the name to focus on here. Who
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: will be kicking? It looks like currently Ildomaro Vargas is
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the loser, which not a big deal. He's really fallen apart.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So Newbar should be sliding right into a big side
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: platoon role for the Dbacks. What's your take here on
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the impact it could have for him.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Newbar is one of the interesting guys
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: that he There's a lot of talent there, and I
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: feel like this is one of those guys that should
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: be able to to deliver more than he has. He's
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: just struggled with health issues. But I will say the
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: stack cast Darling two degree, he's always been the guy
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: that has a strong exvelocities, he's got a solid plate approach,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: he's able to get on base. He just hasn't put
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: all together. And I think it's a perfect example of
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: a guy that just needs to change the scenery and
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: a chance to get healthy. It's really what it comes
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: down to. So I like the trade for the Diamondbacks
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: here clearly you know they get I think it's a
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: year and a half control here, so that's a little
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: bit longer, longer play. Yeah, they did give up a
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: decent prospect and egan here, But but this is one
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: of those Yeah, look at the system you're coming from.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: An Arizona's system is not the strongest. Is probably about
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: of ten in the majors. So again, I think it
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: was a fifth overall on a list, not not a
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: big give up. For me. So I think news got
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: some hidden potential and if he can just be healthy
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and get a good run, then I think he can
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: do some pretty good things for the Diamondbacks. I've got
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: him kind of the watch list guy that if I
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: get into a bind, I'm willing to invest in. But
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: beyond that, I think I still need to see him
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: actually come through and produce against those fancy stack coast metrics.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's all very fair. I think
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I am pretty much right on board with you across
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: all that analysis and a new part. It's not going
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to be somebody who crosses the ale in Al divide,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: so we'll kind of highlight that as well. But probably
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: was on like fifteen teen sort of like consideration, maybe
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: some twelve teamers up or down arrow for large new
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: bar from you.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I give him a slight up arrows slight up arrow.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: It's not a huge up arrow, but I think a
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: little better environment, a little bit better park, and just
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the chance change of scenery, So give him a slide
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: up arrow.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think that is all very fair. Let's move
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: on to the athletics. Unfortunately, MLB trade rumors that's not
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: labeled them as Sacramento Athletics, and I'm not going to
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: try to figure out where we have to slop that
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: in later, so we're going to do it now. Slash.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Not too much going on here, So a bunch of
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: relievers that kind of shuffled around. They got rid of
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Aaron Savali. Honestly, I don't even know if I've really
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: got anything to cover from the Athletics to you.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just sad that Colby Thomas never never panned out.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Thought I thought I was a big Colby Thomas guy,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: and now he's tossed over to the Phillies and we'll
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: move on. So, Yeah, there's not a whole lot going
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: on here for the Athletics, beyond not knowing where to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: name them, so we just put them number two exactly.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, some unthrilling wants to start with, and I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: mean the third one is also not terribly thrilling, because honestly,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the Braves, for me, were one of the deadline losers.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Because you also want to talk about another franchise that
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: could have ponied up pretty easily for Tarik Schoble put
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: him right next to Chris Sayle as a dirty one
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: two punch in the playoffs and just kind of fell down.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: They didn't really acquire much of anything. So they shipped
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: out Eli White, they shipped out Joey Bart, they shipped
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: out Nacho Alvarez. Junior White went to the Red Sox
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: in exchange for Tyler Uberstein, a reliever. Joey Bart went
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: out to the White Sox Duncan Davitt for another depth arm,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Nacho Alvarez going to the Angels for Brent Suter, another reliever. There,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: you've got Tyler Molly coming in from the Giants in
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: exchange for Anthony Molina. And they then they picked up
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Lane Thomas and Bailey Falter from the Royals in exchange
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: for Lucas Brown and Carter Holton. What were the Braves
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: doing and any anything that you think could be fantasy
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: interesting guise for Lane Thomas, because that is one of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the guys who will be crossing that ALNL divide, so
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: is gonna have some intriguing in all only leagues and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: was relatively hot for the Royals before this trade was
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: starting to get picked up even in like twelve teamers.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: But looks like he's going to be on the short
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: side of a platoon here for the Braves. So what's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: your take on the situation in Atlanta.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I think my big take is they really like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: and dislike Joey Bark brought him in and send him out.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But beyond that, yeah, I think Thomas is the most
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: interesting piece here. The question is does he you know,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: push like a Mauricio Dubon out of role or something
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: like that. I think he has the potential to do it.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Lane Thomas has always been one of those guys we've
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: talked about him on this podcast so many times of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: just being good, good enough at everything that he continues
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to have fantasy relevance, but not the kind of guy
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: that you want to rely on. And so that's kind
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: of Lane Thomas. I think if he gets hot, he's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: worth it, especially in an n L only league. I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: think Tyler Mallley has has a little bit of intrigue here.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: He's definitely had some some pretty rough luck this year
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: for the Giants. Got a five thirteen ERA but you know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: rocking a four h nine XCRA four thirty seven FIP
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: and a lot of that's come from some baby bluck
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and left on base luck that's just not gone his way.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: That rotation is a lot thinner than I think people
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: realize with all the injuries that they've had and just
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: some of the young guys not making the impacts you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: expected to have but haven't been. Ronaldo Lopez, Schwellenbach, Strider
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: all hurt, trying to figure out what you're gonna do
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: with Ms Shaver, Owen, Murphy, guys like that. They just
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: nobody's not all kind of worked out. So Molly slots
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: in as their number two or three here, which is
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: saying something. So he's also another interesting one for more
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: of a streaming perspective for me being at least in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: a better team but maybe worse ballpark.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it is not great looking at that rotation.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously they have some minor le depth, but man, if
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: the Braves don't go very deep into the playoffs, I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: think lots of people are going to be pointing fingers
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: back at the front office for not making the moves
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: of the deadline to really put the finishing touches on
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: this team that's been running the table in the NL
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: East and might get caught from behind by the Phillies
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: if the rotation falls apart on them. Okay, the Baltimore Orioles,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: let's get to them next. One of the most active
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: teams during the deadline, and honestly, I think they had
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: a pretty good deadline. I mean don't know if I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: would have trusted Mike Elllias to guide me through this deadline.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: As it appears the Orioles are kind of reselling and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: turning into a bit of a rebuild again, which have
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: fun with that Pete Alonzo. But it was quite the list.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So they picked up Cody Hueer from the Brewers for cash.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: They picked up Rhys Hines from the Marlins for cash.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: They picked up outfielder Christian Franklin from the Nationals for
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Joey Glassie. They reacquire Michael Farrett, a pitcher from the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Rays who they traded him to the Rays for Shane
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Boz in the off season. Uh, but traded Tyler Wells
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to get Fourrett. The big one. They shipped out Adley
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Retchman and Jake Rodgers to the Red Sox in exchange
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: for Anthony Anson, Carlos Narvaez and Esco s car As
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: as O car sorry and they asocr Yes and Kyson Witherspoon.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: So that's gonna be the big haul. You're getting catcher
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: nirvaas back and Witherspoon and Iansen, two of the top
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: arms in that Boston system back. Uh. Then they got
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: a poo poo platter back for Taylor Ward of Alex
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: hop brock Moore and Harrison Kreeling from the Mariners. They
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: traded out Dean Kramer for Joe Gamnardo Reyes from the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: from the Twins and outfielder who they've mentioned him on
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Our Our Our Friend's Dynasty Baseball pickups. They've had some
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: intrigue on Reyes and really deep leagues, but is still
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: working his way through the Miners. They obviously picked up
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Jake Rogers before they sent him out, and a lot
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: of other kind of smaller back end trades. Obviously, the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: big focus here is going to be the return for
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Adlee Ritchman getting back Ansen getting back Witherspoon, but don't
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: overlook for Ratt and Franklin's decent as well. Should be
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: joining the big league team. I believe Franklin as a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: short side putoon player. Impacts on the big league squad
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: are that it really solidifies the rotation spot for Brandon
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Young going forward, you're going to be seeing I think
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: it shows that psio is going to be back relatively
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: soon at catcher, But otherwise the Brave or the Orioles
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: really didn't have too many extra holes to fill because
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: they had all those young players they've been shuffling around
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: and now they've just got full playing time, Like Dylan Beavers, So,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: what's your take here on the Orioles and what do
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: you see them doing going forward, especially with some of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the favorite arms we've seen this season between Iansen and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon from the Red Sox.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the first point is something you touched on,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: which is, uh, they kind of have to let some
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: of these young guys run now in Baltimore, and so
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: this is your Kobe Mayo's, your Christian and Carassi and strands.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Dylan Beaver's Like, I'm interested to see what takes place
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: here because I think there's a ton of talent there
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: that they just they need the time to run and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: see what they actually have. But you look beyond that.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Clearly the Adlie trades, the big one. Adlie just couldn't
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: live up to all the hype, and with Basillo there,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was time to move on. That said,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: they got a good return. They got a good return
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: for for adli Ironsen to me is the is the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: gem here. He has flown up prospect lists this year.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: He's looked absolutely dominant. He He's gonna be at the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: top of Amber of starting pitching list, and I'd say
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: probably one of the best five, uh, starting pitching prospects
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: in the Miners, and you can argue a lot of those.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe once Kate Anderson gets out of there,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I don't really consider him the miners anymore because he
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be there. Witherspoon, I think is a bit more
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: of a gamble first rounder from last year, but he
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a whole lot of innings and the miners
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: under his belt, so definitely a further off than Iensen.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I think Ianson's uh definitely in the conversation next year.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: So I think that's the big piece there is that
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: we got some young guys getting a run in the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: major league roster, and then they did kind of reinforce
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: them that that pitching, which is which has continued to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: be Baltimore's problem. It's not hitting has not been the problem.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: They have not developed their hitter as well, but they've
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: They've had plenty of them that have been talented. They've
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: just really struggled in that rotation with the guys like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Povich and uh Brydon Young, Bass, like they just don't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: have that found it. Even bradish has been a little
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: rough this year or so, they this this is a
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: good move for him.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think maybe the one thing
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: that concerns me a little bit with Ionsen Witherspoon and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Fourrette ending up in Baltimore is, I don't know what
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: it is, but they've been slow cooking pitchers for a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: couple of years now that they've been doing it with
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Brandon Young. They were doing it with Kate Povich for
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: a long time. They were doing it with Trey Gibson
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and continue to do Trey Gibson. They've done with Luis
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: de Leone, and it's almost like they don't trust them
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: and they don't want them to mess up, and so
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: they're trying to protect them from the big leagues. And
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: maybe there's a little bit of like Michael Isis's ego
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: tied up in that too, where you know, he needs
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: to produce them pitching to be able to get this
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: team fully finished off and turned around, but hasn't been
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: able to do it. So that gives me a little
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: bit of a pause for Ionsen, Witherspoon and Florette, but
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I think the talent will come through. And Ironsen certainly
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: has not been quite as good at double A and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: the velocity is ticked down a little bit and from
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the big gains that he had earlier in the season.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But I mean, part of it is he's just like
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: thrown so many innings compared to where he has in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: the past, and you know, it's his first season in
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: any sort of professional environment, so you got to give
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: him a little bit of grace for that. But yeah,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: certainly big time haul for the all Orioles to be
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: able to rework a lot of that rotation going into
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. All Right, let's get to the Red Sox,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: who were on the receiving end of Alie Retchman obviously
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: as we talked about that, but they also picked up
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Eric Miller and Carlos Gudiers from the Giants in exchange
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: for Marcelo Mayer, which is a pretty big one. Picked
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: up Eli White, as we talked about, who should just
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: be a short slide platoon fourth fifth outfielder type. Picked
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: up Chris Mead, who we talked about last week. They
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: also had added Jamai Jones and Brett Harris for a
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of death. Let's focus on Adley here joining
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox and gonna have extra control. So
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: he's going to be in Boston next year and currently
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: is on the IL right now with wrist inflammation, but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: it should be relatively minor, and you would think that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Adley should be back in the next week or two,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: right in the middle of that lineup. Great opportunity him
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: for him to reset his career. What do you think
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Richmond can do going forward with the Red Sox.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I he continues to be a guy
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: that when he plays, he does pretty well. Like he's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: not like when he first came up. This was the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: guy that we thought was gonna be a three hundred
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: hitter thirty homers, one hundred rbi every year, year in
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: year out. We thought like this next coming of Joe
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Mauer type thing, right, And because he has not quite
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: delivered on or not quite, he's not delivered on that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: even when he's been not as good, it's I think
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: it's been overshadowed by the overall hype because even this
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: year sixty seven games, he's had eight homers, hitting for
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: two fifty one average forty seven rbis's good for one
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: fifteen w BRC plus. That's really solid for a full season.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: That that's a catcher hitting twenty plus homers, hitting two
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: point fifty probably could break ninety RBI. That's a really
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: really good catcher. Maybe not as flashy as some guys
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: that we've had. He's you know, we got the Drake
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Baldwin's got Dylan Dingler doing some crazy things, right, But
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I still see him as an easy top ten catcher.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: And I think getting out of Baltimore, who just cannot
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: figure out how to develop a bat, going into Boston,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: which is another team that hasn't been great developing bats,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: but I still think it's an upgrade for him. I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: think that this is a great reset. So I actually
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: think Rutchman is kind of a sneaky value going Intoto
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: next year just because he's been in a better lineup,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: better spot. I think he's gonna have you better off season,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: all those kind of things. So I'm I actually like this,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: And to your points, he's got a few years of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: time here before he's that free agent in twenty eight
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: and so this might be a match made in heaven
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: to a degree with the Red Sox.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think if you're looking for
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you could have really found a much better landing spot
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: for Attlee Watchman, especially when you also add in that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: like the Waltimore pushback in that park certainly started hurting him.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I think from a right hand perspective, now you go
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: to the full opposite side, where you've got one of
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the easiest left field porches to be able to hit
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: homers and smack just line drives into the Green Monster
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: that I think you could see a pretty good average
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: boost from Adley. And as you said, it's a good lineup.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: They'll continue adding around him that Unlike the Orioles, the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Red Sox are a little bit more on the Dodgers
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: end of the spectrum in terms of making sure that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the talent keeps coming and stays on the field. So yeah,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a pretty big
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: up for Adlee. It'll just be fascinating to see where
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: that price settles in twenty twenty seven drafts, because I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: could also see it going too far, you know, Red
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Sox tax as well as people, yeah, really taking this
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: hype and running with it. That's fair, Okay. The Chicago Cubs,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: another very active team, pretty much put together an entire
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: starting rotation at the deadline so early, you know, not
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: kind of within the days of the deadline. They picked
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: up Aaron Savali and David Peterson, but then they went
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: out and added Clay Holmes and Tyrone Taylor from the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Mets for Jefferson Rojas. They picked up Braxton Garrett from
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the Marlins for Jonathan Long and Jason Beck. They picked
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: up Kevin Goussman from the Blue Jays for Brett Bateman
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: and Tie South the scene, and they let go of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Jamison Tyan and also added Ryan Zephyr John in exchange
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: for Moises by Steros and Mason McGuire. So let's focus
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: on the guys that came in here for the Cubs
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: as opposed to the ones that went out, because we'll
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: get to them when we talk about those other squads.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I think, obviously the biggest name is Kevin Gusman. He's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: been a little bit unsteady the past two months or
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: so with the Blue Jays. I dove into it at
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: BP recently, and a lot of it was dealing with
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: splitter location. He just was leaving and hanging in the zone,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: but has started to look a little bit better in
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: his latest outing, and we'll see if the Cubs can
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: continue that progress. Clay Holmes will be returning from his
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: broken leg and Brex and Garrett is currently in Triple
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: A but has been pitching there well down there, and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I imagine, I don't know, they've actually gone to a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: six man rotation here in Chicago, so who knows if
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Garrett can find the daylight, but it's certainly in great depth.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Another kind of impact kind of fallout from this Zephyr
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: John will enter that closing committee there with Jacob Webb
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: and Trent Thornton as well as Cale Thielbar. I think
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: web is still the one to go with, but we'll
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: see if you have a different opinion. And also this
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: should open up very much a full time ish gig
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: for Pedro Miraz, who's been hitting really well and was
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: one of the main subjects of your piece this past weekend.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: So what's your take on the guys in Wrigleyville.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I look at the brand new rotation there.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I think Gossman, you know, he's not been.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Perfect this year.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: But he's still been solid and he is a solid
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: veteran guy. Holmes, he's going to be back now and
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: he should slot in as a solid two three. Yes,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Savali Peterson, Garrett like their their depth, and I think
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: the Cubs knew that. They just they've had a litany
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: of issues in that rotation, so they had to get,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: you know, have somebody come in uh and try try
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to kind of close that. But between having Boy, Gossman
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: and Holmes, I think it's a solid top three now.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: I do think Zephyrigen has the potential to be the closure.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I think he's got some pretty nasty stuff and so
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: I I think he's a guy that has opportunity to
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: kind of run away with that being the youngest guy
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: of that kind of bullpen mess. At the end of
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the of the the bullpen for the Cubs, I think
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: they do want to rely on one guy, uh to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: to really make it happen. So lots lots going on here,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: but I think that they made some really strong moves
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: just to do the one thing they had, which was
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: really anchor into that rotation. And they say they have
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: a good lineup, they have one of the best lineup.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: I would say the best, but they have some of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: the best hitting and run production in the in the majors.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: They're you know, i'd say a top five lineup out there.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: So these pitchers are gonna gonna get a nice boost.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I'm maybe not quite as high end
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Zephyr John. It's just it's too many walks, Like it's
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of walks, you know, a career
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: thirteen point four percent rate, a fourteen point three percent
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: rate this year that I don't know if they're going
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: to give him the full on closer's mantle, but certainly
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a great, high leverage arm for strikeouts,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit wild, and I don't know if they're
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: going to quite go all the way of making him
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: the anointed closer. Gossman's going to be the fun one
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: crossing one the fun ones crossing the ALNL divide because
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: of just not only what he's done in the past,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: but like what can he do in the future. And
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: it is a good defense in Chicago behind him, especially
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: in that infield, So I'm intrigued to see what they
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: can do. But also there's a lot that's changed in
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Chicago where this is very anecdotal, But I feel better
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: if Gossman was in a situation where he was the
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: only new pitcher in town and the pitching coach and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: staff and front office could focus on diving into what
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: was ailing Kevin Gouseman as opposed to trying to figure
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: out a game plan for an entire new rotation. And essentially,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: so that is maybe like the one kind of thing
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I'll throw out there with this Cubs team is that
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: like it might be too much new stuff and it
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: might kind of really throw things off a little bit.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: But you can't fault them for what they were doing,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: because I mean, I guess you can fault them a
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: little bit because they should have made some of these
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: moves in February where they should have been signing.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Foster anytime prior to this exactly.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: They didn't need to be in this situation. And so
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: now they've they've already opened up that question of whether
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: or not it's too many new people because of what
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: they didn't do back in January and February. So we'll see.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: But should be a pretty strong playoff team on the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: north side. Let's go to the south side because we're
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: going alphabetically and nice little fun trade deadline for the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: White Sox, who two years ago almost at the all
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: time loss mark and now are buying at the deadline.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: The big buye was bringing in Luis Castillo from the
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Mariners in exchange for Sir Anthony de Mingez, outfielder Noah
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Jones and catcher Boston Smith. So they will get Castillo
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: for next year as well. So it was a little
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: bit of a salary exchange because Sir Anthony Dominguez is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: also signed for next year, but that should give the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: White Sox a pretty solid mid rotation piece for twenty
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: twenty seven as well as the rest of this year. Obviously.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: They picked up Joey Bart, as we talked about from
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: the Braves, who's now their starting catcher. They demoted Edgar Carro.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Bart should have full rain because I don't know if
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: TiO will get back, so that's a big question. They
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: picked up Brenton Doyle from the Rockies in exchange for
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Mason Adams and Carlos Vilma. Right now, Russ Resource has
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Doyle sitting out looking in at playing time as the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: fourth outfielder. They also previously picked up hoose Erkidi. They
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: picked up Wasscar Brazerbond from the Mets. A lot of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: little nice additions, I think for the White Sox, but
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: the big ones. Louis Castillo, I know we've been down
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: on him the past few years on this podcast. Do
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: you think there's a chance he could bounce back and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: be worth rostering again in twelve teamers with the White Sox.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I'm too intrigued with KSTO here.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: It's not like he's moving to like a way better
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: ballpark or a way better defense or anything like that.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Like it, it feels relatively neutral or maybe even a downgrade,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: because that Seattle is a pretty nice place to pitch,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: you know. He just he just really struggles with a
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: little of that control and really having that outpitch. The
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: home the gopher ball is his downfall and I can
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: continue to be an issue for him. Is a guy
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: that just like likes to let everybody put it in
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: the air. So, yes, he had some luck issues, sure,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: I just I don't see this going terribly well for Castio.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: He is an upgrade for the White Sox and for sure,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: but they also had definitely a pretty thin group there
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: that they were trying to kind of get through, So
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: I like the moves on it from a baseball perspective
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: for a team that doesn't couldn't really mortgage the future
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: to try to go after this year because they know
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: they're on a razor's edge here. They're probably not the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: division winning team where they're kind of sitting in the standings,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: but they made some moves, plugged some holes, took some
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: gambles and guys like Doyle and Bart, and it'll be
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: interesting to see. I think your equity is actually an
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: interesting one because he's definitely got a lot of talent.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: He's just been dinged up and hasn't quite found his way.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: So I think, to your point, lots of good little pieces,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: nothing that I'm really like jumping up and down to
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: go play with him.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: From a fancy perspective, yeah, I think I'm right there
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: with you. The only kind of intriguing option is that
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: now I can maybe make use of that Joey Bart
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: collection that I put together in twenty twenty one and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: just have a lot of twenty one Joey Bart cards
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: tucked away. So he's actually just entering ouritration. So he's
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be with the White Sox for at least another year,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: maybe they can turn it around for him. But yeah,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. The big thing here is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: that they didn't have to sell a lot of the future,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: and if anything, they kind of got the buying for
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven already out of the way, where they
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: needed just a guy who would show up and make
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: thirty to thirty two starts as a good veteran arm
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: like Luis Castillo, and so I think he'll be a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: good fit for the actual real life baseball team from fantasy.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Still pretty mixed bag. I think yep. Okay, let's go
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati, where it was a pretty muted trade deadline
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: for them. We already talked about Hector Rodriguez coming up.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Who's that reason he came up? Is because they dealt
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Lao Lao. No, that one's low.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Think this one's low.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's of Nathaniel Low to the Guardians in
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: exchange for an a ball pitcher, Alejandro Rivera. They also
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: sent out Caleb Ferguson also brought back in a separate trade,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Juan Brito from the Guardians, which is a little bit intriguing.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there. He's had some good
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: years in the miners for the Guardians, but it's been
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: battling injury. But second base is kind of a hell
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: hole for the Reds and Brito could be right in
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: the middle of that. We talked about Hector Rodriguez already,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's a lot more intrigue
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: unless there's something on the Reds you want to add.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Nope, I think you've done a great job on the Reds.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: This is one of the few that really wasn't a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: big but big deadline, and I think that's maybe the
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: story of anything. That folks expected the Reds to make
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: some move. They had guys like Suarez, Stevenson like guys
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: they probably should have moved, and they just kind of
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: stood pat. So I think disappointing deadline for the Reds overall.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, also shows you how much the rest of the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: league really believes in Brady Singer because he's a free
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: agent after the year, and there was no Brady Singer chatter,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: so nope, nobody even wanted that. Let's move on to
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: those Cleveland Guardians. So, like I said, they picked up
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Lowe, who should be entering the lineup every day
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: because to make room for him. They demoted Kyle Manzardo
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: and David Fry to clear way for Low should be
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: the every day first baseman or you know a little
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: bit of dh here and there. They also picked up
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Joe Adele from the Angels in exchange for pitcher Jerk
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Jacob Cozart. They picked up Blake Perkins and Craig Yoho
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: from the Brewers in exchange for Bo Naylor and Cody Huer.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: So Hure got moved twice actually and ultimately settled in
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I already forgot where Baltimore if you were paying attention there,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: because he got shipped to Milwaukee, then shipped to Baltimore.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: So he had a couple stops and that really a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: couple of other small Oh I almost missed our boy
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Foster Griffin, my bad, who was been a favorite of
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: mine this year. That was another when pitchers Will Dion
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: and Josh Hardle are the big returns there for the Nationals,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: along with a couple of other pieces. So lots of
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: stuff here going on in Cleveland. Low has been pretty solid.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Actually has another corner infield option. Joe Adell has been
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: doing Joe Adell things, and you've got Foster Griffin entering
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: one of the best starting pitching situations in all of
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: the league in terms of pitching development. So what's your
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: take on those three players joining at the Guardians. Yeah,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: I mean definitely for Low and Griffin. For AL only league,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: these are gonna be some priority ads. I think Low
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: is an intriguing corner infielder. I think he ends up
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: in a little bit better position than he was previously.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I think Griffin is the big call out here to
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: your point, better situation, better development package, and he doesn't
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: have to carry that rotation that's a deep rotation. I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's like a top heavy rotation by any means.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Messik has been solid, Kevin Williams has actually been fantastic,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: but can Tino bib Like those guys across the board,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: they just have really solid young pitchers. I mean that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: those guys average age is like twenty six years old.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: So Griffin's now the elder statesmen coming here, being the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: thirty one year old joining that group. But I think
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: that they can get a.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Lot out of him, and knowing that they are in
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: a spot in the standings that it's just them and
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: the White Sox that are really battling here for the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: central and I'm sorry, Twins and Tigers, I'm kind of
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: dismissing you, but I don't know that you're really going
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: forward either. Well, the Twins, we'll talk, But I think
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: that this has kind of separated for me as the
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: favorites in that division the rest of the year, because
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: they just seem like a better team top to bottom.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, I mean they've got a strong bench
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: now with Austin Hedges, Reet Haskins, Gabriel Arius and not
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: how Martinez. The question mark though for the Guardians is
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez. I think has come back too fast from
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: that handmade injury, and that's going to be the make
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: or break question. I think for the guards the rotations there,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: but if they don't have a fully healthy Hosi Ramirez,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they've gotten a juice in that
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: lineup to make it past the White Sox unfortunately. But yeah,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: you can't complain if you had Foster Griffin if this,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: if anything, it's an upgrade because now he's not facing
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: the Phillies, now he's not facing Atlanta, and now even
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: the Mets. I get a little bit of a braid
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: up every once in a while when he was out
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: there throwing much easier division to throw Foster Griffin in
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: pretty much becomes like a set and forget starter for
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year for me. With the Guardians, yep,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, Colorado Rockies actually doing some work at
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Look at this. They were involved in
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: multiple trades. They picked up Connor Norby and Aiden May
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: in exchange for Victor Vodnik from the Marlins. They sent
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: out Antonio Senzatela for couple of players from the Brewers,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Mark Man, Freddie and Juan Martinez. They shipped out Brenton
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Doyle as we alluded to. They also shipped out, you know,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: the week before, Seth Halverson for Nick Frasso and Landon
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: fired Videruk. I don't know if I'll have to really
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: worry about Landen too much in the future. Sorry, so
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: which could go down. Honestly, it's a pretty terrible trade
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: because Halferson throws heat and the Dodgers I think jumped
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: all over that. Maybe the one to call out is
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Connor Norby. You've had interest in Connor Norby in the past,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: But it does give me a little bit of like
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Edward Julian vibes here where you know, I think there
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: is a little bit of intrigue. But I think the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: allure of a hittery you've previously had interest in from
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: a prospect perspective, going to Colorado probably outstrips the actual
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: value for Norby. But what do you think?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right like it. It's like, on the surface value,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: this one's like man Connor Norby, like he's he's got
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: some hidden pop here. He could do some damage. You
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: put him in Colorado. That's it's a thirty Homer bat right.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: It's it's not but like you can, you can dream
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: on it two degrees. So that's the one here I'm watching.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: Almost everything else doesn't really do much for me. We'll
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: talk about how we'll probably wont to talk about how Verson
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: of the Dodgers, But I do think you're right that
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: one's a little steaky there, that there's a there's an
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: upside there. I'm surprised he didn't hang on to him,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: But I think Norby's gonna gonna get get little a run,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: a little playing time. Uh. The Rockies have seemed to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: be a spot for some post hype guys to to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: do something so I'm not picking him up. I'm not
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: rushing to grab him, but I definitely am giving a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: good watch to Connor Norby here to see if he
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: gets a little reset getting out of Miami and get
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: into a new environment, a new thin air environment, and
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: see if that's gonna let that that power power eat
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not too much of an impact on the
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: big league roster there. For the Rockies, Doyle was already
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: kind of in a fourth outfield position and they called
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: up Jordan Beck to refill that position. Now, so you
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: know something, keep in mind if any other outfielder goes
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: down there in Colorado, that Jordan Beck is, you know,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: one hamstring away from a full time job again with
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: the Rockies. Let's go to the Detroit Tigers, who you
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: know we've talked about. They were the movers and shakers
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: here because of three Scooble and you know also might
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: have just wrecked the twenty twenty seven baseball season for
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: us all by sending him to the Dodgers. But in
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: exchange they got back that your hope at River Ryan
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: and Brady Smith. Hope is going to be obviously the
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: big intriguing piece here because that could give them an
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: outfield next year of Hope, Max Clark and Riley Green,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: which would be up there I think in terms of
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: outfield pedigree. They also sent out CAZy Casey Miz and
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: gauge workmen to the Padres in exchange for Cash Mayfield
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and Jackson Wolf a couple of arms there. Cash Mayfield's
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: got certainly some intrigue, but is still in the lower
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: levels of the miners. They've also sent out a couple
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: of other small trades we talked about in terms of
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Jami Jones, Jake Rogers, Wusuck Go, Matt Seelinger, but all
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: of them were really small and really the prospects coming
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: back not really significant from a lineup perspective. The lineup
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: itself is pretty unvarnished, but the rotation will now probably
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: be including like a bullpen day every day. They've got
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Drew Anderson slotted in currently for roster resource. He was
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: kind of a swing band anyway. I do have intrigue
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: in Anderson if he gets stretched out more and is
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: starting a little bit more, But otherwise this has been
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: the problem for the Tigers all year. They haven't had
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: any pitching depth, I imagine. Sorry Gibson, Long probably comes
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: up to fill in that other rotation spot, but Jack
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Flaherty Jackson Job will be back from the ale pretty soon.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: In Job especially should be back this week. It'll be
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: kind of a question of how many innings they'll be
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: able to stretch him for. So what's your read here
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: on the Tigers.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of little interesting pieces,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: but I think that the big the big move clearly
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: is the school trade with with Zeyer, Hope and River
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Ryan coming in. I agree. I think Hope he's pretty
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: much done what he needs to do in the minors.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: I still think he's raw to a degree still twenty
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: one year old in Double A, but seems to have
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: not had a whole lot of issue at that level.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna gonna be I don't think
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: he's gonna break camp next year, but I think he's
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: gonna definitely be a guy that is forcing the issue,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: you know, mid season next year. And there's a lot
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: to like at this profile long term. River Ryan, we'd
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: kind of mentioned he is on the older side here.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: He's he actually turns twenty eight like a week and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: a half, but he's been hurt as soon as he
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: gets healthy. I think he's plugged in right in the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: middle of that rotation. And frankly, like, I think he's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a steaky value going going forward because he's you know,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: he's pitched well whatever, healthy, Like, he just hasn't had
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: an opportunity. He's been the wrong system, and he was
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: an absolutely late bloomer as far as the Dodgers are concerned.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: So I think those two are the big big gets here.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: This team has a lot of holes, and so I'm
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: not sitting here investing across a lot of the rest
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: of the team like Flaherty or anybody else there. So
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: hope's the big one. Ryan. I think he could give
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: you some value this season. The rest is kind of
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: playing out next year.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, river Ryane can also be a sneaky kind of
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: al only pick up because he is on the I L.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: But I also I don't know when he's going to
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: be back off the I L. That's kind of like
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: his mo so, but if he does make it to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: a mount like it is nasty stuff, So I don't
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: you're not probably gonna get him for like absolutely nothing
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: in an Ale only fab run. But I think if
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: you go a little bit above that, I think you'd
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: be surprised at how cheap River Ryan might still come across,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: because he is on the IL and he's not going
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: to be useful right away, but certainly worth adding and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: stashing if you've got the space.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the Houston Astros, who have moved
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: into first place in the Al West and bought at
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: the deadline. Really only made one move, picking up Dalton
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Varshow in exchange for Spencer Raghetty. And it was a
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: very much needed Dalton Varshow because they had been working
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: with a load bearing Lamont Way junior for a while
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: before bringing in var Show, and he should slot right
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: into center field for them. That's the other thing they've
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: been missing on this Astro squad actually for ever, Like yeah,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: it was something that had really since George Springer like
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: kind of lost that extra step and you might be wondering, like, hey,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: isn't the issue for the Astro has been starting pitching
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: why this shipping out Spencer Agedty? Well, one Aragedty's not
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: that great and two Hayden wes Neski and Kristin Javier
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: have recently come back along with Bronel Blanco, so they
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: do have a full enough rotation that they actually put
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: a May into the bullpen for now, where he looked
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: really good on Monday, that they might find some success
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: kind of allowing you mind to focus in shorter stints
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. They've also got Miguel Uyolo and
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: Kaiwai Tang, Jason Alexander, those types of guys down there.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: But Ethan Peco has been pitching out of his mind
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: down at Triple A for the Astros, So I think
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: that's where they're going to turn if they run into injury.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Varshow obviously pretty much the only move they made here,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: But what's your take overall on the situation in Houston
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: between adding Varshow, who's now their clean up hitter, and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: the rest of their rotation.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Varshow to your point, was like, there's
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: probably was not a better player to insert into this team.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: They have struggled time and time again at center field.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: That is a tough ballplay to place in our field,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: and var Show is one of the best. He's also
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: just a steady, steady presence. He he does great getting
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: on base and kind of causes a little bit of havoc.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: He's still got a little speed, a little pop, like
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: he just does everything a little bit, a little bit
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: better than the next guy, and so I and he
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: also has that kind of grit to him which is
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: completely irrelevant for the fantasy game, but from a pure
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: real world like, he's a great get here that rotation.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: I agree with you that sending Spaghetti out was was
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: not a problem at all, just because you know there's
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: a ton of upside there, but it's it's very volatile.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned with this rotation beyond Hunter Brown though, like
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: I think Wesnewski is is intriguing Javier, I feel like
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: we've been on this train before. Lambert and Blanco not
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: too intrigued in So, like, this lineup actually is a
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: lot stronger, I think than people realize. I think cam
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: Smith's better than he's he's been. I think Paina is
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: better than he's been, and so there's really not a
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: whole lot of holes in that lineup. But they've got
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: pretty much one starter that you can rely on, and
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: that's what I think is going to be going to
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: be the issue for him going forward. So I'm a
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: little surprised that they didn't try to do something with
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: that rotation. Maybe they did try to. You never know
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: what actually took place, but I think that they really
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: needed another strong arm. This would have been the spot
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: for a Gosman or somebody else like that to fit in,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: and I'm surprised that they didn't. They didn't make that play. Granted,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: they don't necessarily have a strong farm system to go from.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: I think Houston and San Diego are like lining up
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: for the worst farm system in the majors here. San
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: Diego may have just taken the crown on that one.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks a j. Preller for sitting out like three or
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: your top few here. We'll talk about it. But yeah,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: I think they're a decent team. I think they're missing
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: some pitching them.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Yep, I think that's all fair. Next team on the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: list the City Royals, where you know we talked about
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: them shipping out Lane Thomas and Bailey Falter. The biggest
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: get there will be Lucas Braun and he is in
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: TRIPAA is not on the forty man. But the Royals
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: do have an open rotation spot because also over the
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: weekend they lost Linda Alvila went down and is already
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: like slated for Tommy John surgery. It was very very
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: quick that they knew what he needed. So that has
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: also allowed Randy Dobnik to move into the rotation full time.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Bron's probably too far off. They
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: also sent out Chris Bubich to the Dodgers in exchange
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: for Carlos Deran, and they sent out Cameron Meisner to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: the Phillies. Nothing really too crazy from the lineup perspective.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: This team is real bad. So I think from both
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: a streaming bats against them and string pictures against them,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a pretty big time target it
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City. What do you think?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you've got a pretty strong top three
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: or four bats in here, like between Jensen with cac
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Leione and Perez. I mean, forgive me, but did you
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: see his triple that he was it just yesterday or
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: the day before? Oh? Please please find it. It's it's
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: it's a cinematic TV. I'm surprised he can still run
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: to first base like Perez. Looks like he's pretty much
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: coached at this point in time. And this rotation is
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: is pretty rough. The bullpen even rougher. Uh So there's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: there's not much going on here. If anything, I'm a
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: little surprising Mumitch, but there wasn't much reason to hold
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: on to him, so I thought that there was maybe
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: some a chance they try to get him back and
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: keep him in the fold, because when he's healthy, he's
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: a pretty solid, solid player. But not much going else
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: else here for the Royals. Pretty rough situation.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, well in rough situation except for I mean,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: their deadline was pretty good. I think the Lost Angels
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Angels where honestly John is Sela cooked here a little bit.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Where sure they're still sitting on Reed dett Meer's but
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: he was able to ship out Jose Soriano surprisingly to
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, but brought back Argin Namala, who just
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: we talked about last week last week. Yeah, and so
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: he should be the number one prospect now in the
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Angel system and has a good chance to move quickly
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: just because it's the Angels. Eddie Mitchelletti and on Hell
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: Rivero also came back in that deal. They got back
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Jake Cozart, a pitcher from the Guardians in exchange for Odell.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: They got Nacho Alvarez Junior back from the Braves for Suitor,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: which I've lot, I've liked Nacho Alvarez in the past,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: but it is a very like Luis Arisian patting approach
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: with a stone glove to picked up moises by Asteros
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: and Mason McGuire. McGuire is a the son of Mark McGuire,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: a reliever, but bias Teros is going to be the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: full time DH. They cut J. S. Hilaire today as
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: well as they're letting Biasteros figure it out at DH
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: for two straight months. For the Angels, it's gonna be
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: I think, a pretty big target in ale only leagues
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: because of that, because he's going to get the actual
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: volume sent out Kirby Yates in exchange for Kyle Robinson,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: a pitcher from the Pittsburgh Pirates, and then a couple
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: of days before the deadline, they'd shipped out Chase Silseth
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: and Logan o'happy to the Rangers for on hell Rodondo.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: That's mostly like, hey, get rid of Logan o hoppy
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: so we don't have to worry about him anymore. But
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: a nifty little trade deadline I think for the Angels
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: restocked this farm system a little bit as well as
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: taking some shots on guys who weren't getting full time
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: at their current locations, but have had prospect intriguing in
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: the past. So what's your read on some of these
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: new Angels.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Lamal is the big one there coming in.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: It'll be interested also to see Biasteros, to see if
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: there is truly something here. There's been a I think
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: I feared he's a quada player, and there's not much
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: better a quad A team than the Angels, so if
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: it's well, I mean, the biggest thing I take away
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: here is Mozaylac and this is coming from being a
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Cardinals fan of over the years. The guy drove me nuts,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: but he actually came in and did some things and
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: like this it was still an Angels deadline, but they
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: actually made some moves that made logical sense. And I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: mean they still had to throw in him Aguire in
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: there to like get some oddity because it feels like
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: how they not do that. So I think this was
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: a strong deadline for them, not a whole lot long term.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: I think mallag maybe gets a little downgrade just because
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: we've been the system has been so hard developing prospects.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: But I'm excited to see what happens with a few
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: of them, to see if they get a full run
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: because they have better paths than the Majors than they
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: did on most of the other teams.
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  Speaker 1: They're coming from. YEP. I think that's all very fair.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: Let's go a little bit up that I five Highway
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Dodgers where they picked up two catchers.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: They because of what we talked about in terms of
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the injury to Dalton Rushing, and also have Will Smith
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: on the io. Hunter Fiduccia came back from the Rays
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: along with Jacob Kamatz in exchange for Jack Swinsky in
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: some international bonus pool. Bunny. We'll talk in Swinsky when
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: he gets when we get to the Rays, because the
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Dodgers Dodgers to him for sure. They also brought back
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Ben Wertvett, who also was an X ray too, so
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: brought him back from the Mets in exchange for Chase McDermott.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: You might remember that name. He was a bigger prospect
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: back when he was in Baltimore system, but is now
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: just a reliever at this point. So nothing terribly intriguing there.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Got Suth Halverson, as we talked about, talked about Chris
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Bubich joining this team from the Royals, which I do
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: want to call that one out because if you're in
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: like A, I'm some of these leagues where actually there's
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: value in high K per nine, save holds, guides like
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: put up like an inning or two because those are
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: categories that either in the head to head or in
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: the rod So Boobitch could be an intriguing pickup in
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: some leagues that are like that, where you've got saveholds
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: and innings are consideration because guys who can strike out
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: players from the left side are real big targets in
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: those types of leagues. And then obviously saving the big
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: one for last week Schooble that we talked about in
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: exchange for Hope, Ryan and Smith, because Scooble's joining the rotation,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: they are bumping out and Shehan, who's already been shipped
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: down to triple A, probably was dropped in most leagues
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: anyway because she has been real rough recently. So what's
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: your take here on the Dodgers and the impacts of
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: their moves.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Dodgers doing Dodgers things here, Like
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: buobitch is a dart throw, He'll be interesting. I like
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: your call out there. He's intriguing for some of those
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: deep reliever type of values. Halverson is like one of
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: the best fastballs in the majors. That's maybe all he is.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: But they love trying to take those types of projects.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: And we talked about scoobl earlier, but I think it
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: really comes down to what he does in that rotation,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: and part of it is not about Scuoble at all.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: But the guys that are actually making an impact of
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: this rotation are not the guys you would have expected.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki has looked really good, and that's I think
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: doing some things to to the Dodgers of like where
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: is he is he ultimately going to be a bullpen arm?
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Is he ultimately going to be a back and starter?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: What's this going to be? Clearly they're waiting for some
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: health to come through here with the likes of glass now,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: so I think they've set themselves up for probably the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: best one two in the game between Yaomodo and Scuball,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: and then there's got like this race for the third guy,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: Like is glassdown going to be healthy enough to be
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: that that that guy? And what's gonna happen with the
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: rest of these these young youngins. I am disappointed to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: see Sheehan demoted. He's he's pitched better than his numbers
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: this year, quite a bit better than his numbers this year,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: but things, for whatever reason just haven't come together. So
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: hoping he gets down to the to the to the
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: miners figures that is out and we don't have another
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Bobby Miller situation on our hands where things look so
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: fantastic and then they just were never So, yeah, Dodgers
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: will Dodgers. Schooble's the big, the big take here World
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Series favorites for sure.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think so as well. Okay, next team, we
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: have Miami Marlins, who were involved in a lot of
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: littler trades, did not There was no really chatter of
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: Cindy al Contra, which is kind of surprising, but I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: guess he also does have a they have a club
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: option on him for next year that I wonder if
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: they saw enough intrigue in the way that the Marlins
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: have performed this year that the front office thinks they've
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: got a shot at next year making a wild card run.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: So maybe they want all Contra around for that, But
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: they may, like like I said, made a lot of
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: little moves. Pick up Victor Vadnik from the Rockies, for
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Norby in May. The intriguing move, probably from an actual
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: comeback on the prospect side, is Jonathan Long came back
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: from the Cubs in exchange for Braxton Garrett, which I
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: think we should probably talk about. They did also pick
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: up Brayden Taylor, Adrian Santana, and Jacob Kissing from the
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Rays in exchange for Liam Hicks. Pretty great capitalization on
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: a Rule five pick there. In terms of Liam Hicks,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Braiden Taylor has had his ups and downs within the
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays organization, but should slot in to the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: mix probably next year for them on the corner, so
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: somebody to watch some of the fallout from the rest
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: of the roster. Augustin Ramirez is back up now with
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: this team currently a roster resource has him slated to
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: be the backup catcher, but I think he might carve
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: out time at DH, you know, especially as they find
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: some ways to move around that outfield, shuffle the outfield
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And Jacob Marcy's back has also been
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: barking a little bit the past few days too, so
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: something to consider there. Otherwise, rotation stays the same bullpen,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: pretty much the same pecking Gord Victor Vodnik does not
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: really play into the safe picture, even though he did
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: in Colorado. So what's your take here on Miami and
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: some of the prospects they got back, especially Jonathan Long,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: because he's sometimes been a hot name, but I've never
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: been a huge fan. I want to get your take
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that Jonathan Long is terribly exciting.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: I think he's he's one of those fifth outfielder types
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: from a fantasy perspective, where like he might be something,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: but he's never going to be the guy that I'm
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: you're really targeting. He's he's going to be a decent batting,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: average type of guy, good play, discipline. I think obp
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: leagues is really where his money's gonna be made. And
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: he's got middling power, so like just your average average
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: guy coming up, and that feels very Marlin's esque. I
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: think that's really where Long Long lands. I really think
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: the big the bigger thing with the Marlins here is
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: that they tried to clear the deck a little bit
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: by moving on from Garrett and Norby a few of
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: those guys Hicks, just to get some other guys playing time.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: I think you're right, Augusta Ramirez is probably the ideal
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: d H here. Roberto Hernandez is kind of pegged in there,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: but he's been playing well enough that I think he
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: might steal some time from Casey or honestly, Marcy love
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: the guy, but man, he's he's been rough this year.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: So I think that some of these guys are going
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: to get some longer playing time. They also have a
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: number of platoon kind of bats like Griffin Conine that
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: has been hitting really well, but there's gonna be plenty
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: of a basket go along, So I think really clearing
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: the deck and seeing what happens with some of these
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: other young guys is really the story here With the Marlins,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: pretty much nobody coming over actually does much for me
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: on this team.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm there with you as well.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: So Milwaukee Brewers are next, and I think this is
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: another team that have pretty disappointing deadline in my eyes,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: just because you know, this is what they've been doing
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: now for the past what three or four years. Great
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: in the regular season because it works in terms of
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: the depth and making sure that they're not giving up
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: zeros anywhere, but the heights of the roster aren't quite there.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: And I think this is especially disappointing considering like you've
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: got the Miz on the mound for twice in a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: seven game series, like it's miz and who is the
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: part of the problem, Like Logan Henderson certainly has been good,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: but it's a different it would be a different atmosphere.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: I think if they had brought in Schooble where, you know,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: it would have harkened a lot back to when they
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: brought in CC Sabatia and the magic of that run.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: That they've got so much prospect capital, and they just
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: kind of of seemed to sit on it because really
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: the only one that they dealt out from the top
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: of their kind of list was Alexander Fries to the
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Cardinals in Division in exchange for Dustin May and Jojo Romero.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: They also treated Josiah Ragsdale in that trade. Otherwise, really
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: the only thing that came back was Antonio since Tella
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: bow Naylor, Cody Hoyer, who they then sent out, and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: Cody or bow Naylor himself is nothing special at this point,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: not even probably going to be on the big league
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: team down the stretch because they've got Gary Sanchez behind
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: William Contrere's there, So certainly Dustin Main is a decent
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: get and I think he's going to do well in Milwaukee.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Also will look pretty cool I think in some of
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: the just the the uniforms there, with his big puffy
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: red hair, but also a little bit of a coup
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to be able to get Alexander Friaz
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: out of this Milwaukee system. So what's your take on
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: the Brewers here?
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right that the Brewers
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: their issue is that they're they're short on star power.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: It's hard to say that with Misserowski in Cheerio, but
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of guys that are just really
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: good role players and contributors or are still trying to
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: find their spot kind of guys. With your Louis Lara's
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: and Cooper Prats coming up, you got your Terrans and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Jake Bauers kind of guys. With William Contreras is kind
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: of taking a step back, Yellows is still as a
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: shell of himself. They've got a really good lineup, but
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: not a great lineup. I think Dustin May was actually
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: a really good get for them here because with Miserowski,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: Henderson and even Robert Guesser. I think those guys could
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: do some damage in the postseason. I don't, but they
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: have to get there and they need some depth to
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: do it because they were really thin in the rotation
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: beyond those kind of guys. With losing Woodriff and Priester
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: and Harrison like that, that was really the issue for them.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: So I think Dustin May is a good get. Joseh
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Romero coming overs and also helped that that bullpen, but
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: pretty much of everything else coming over didn't really change
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: their outlook. And we'll talk about free us in Risedale
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: w we get to the Cardinals here, but I'm pretty
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: sure the Brewers fans aren't too happy about that. That
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: deal all up at this.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Point, Yeah, especially interdivision. It's very strange to see that. Okay,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Twins very lightly buying here at this deadline, but
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: it was a buying and mostly they were building out
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: the bullpen. They picked up aj Mentor from the Mets
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: for Billy Amick and Bruin Agbayani, who I believe is
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: related to Benny Agbayani.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: He is like kind of remember how but he definitely.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Is yes and is out of Honolulu, Hawaii there too.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: So I mean not necessarily a big time prospect, but
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: we'll be in that met system now where Agbayani also
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: came through, which would be kind of fun. They double
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: tapped the Blue Jays for paral levers. They got Tommy Nantz,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: then came back and got Jeff Hoffman, but they sent
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: out a decent haul for Hoffman, Desaun Hill, John Klein,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: Murray Pana there also picked up Dean Kramer from the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: Orioles in exchange for John Nardo Reyes. I got to
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: say it again, so that'll be a little bit of
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: a loss from their system going forward because he's actually
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: got some intrigue, an eighteen year old Dominican that will
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: be working his way through the system now in Baltimore. Really,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: the biggest intrigue to discuss is is Jeff Hoffman the
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: closer for you now in Minnesota that u Andres Gomez
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: has been holding down the job has looked shaky here
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: and there, but has been decent at it and Jeff
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: Hoffman has had his ups and downs this season, but
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: it's currently looks like he's on an up. So if
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: you had to choose one for most saves in that Minnesota,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Polpan the rest of the year. Is that Hoffman or Gomez?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's To me, it's pretty pretty clear
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: of this Hoffman Gomez has. He feels like the guy
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: that's just on his last leash at all points in time.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: And I what was his uh pip was? I think
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: pretty pretty gustur and scary here four and a half
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: actually five thirty six. So I think, you know, he's
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: been better, I'd say throughout the portion of the season
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: that he's been with the Twins, because he was also
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: with Tampa Bay and he's he's made some good adjustments.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: But we're talking about u x are of four Phipps
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: on that three to zero range mid nineties fastball versus Hoffman,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: who just he's a little bit of a wild child,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: but he he can make things happen. I think he's
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: just more dominant presence on the mounds. So I think
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Hoffman's the kind of go to here and he's the
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: guy to be trusting for the saves. And I think
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: he's got I saw some interviews with him. He's got
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: a little chip on his shoulder now uh with uh
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: with with against the Blue Jays here, and so I
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: think he's gonna to come in hot and hot and
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: heavy for the for the Twins.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Yep, I think that's all fair. And then yeah, maybe
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: one other thing to consider is Zebbie Matthews got demoted
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: to make room from Dean Kramer. But the Twins are
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: just going to be flip flopping those guys, I think
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: the rest of the way, because they're both kind of
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: right on the fringe of being big league starters right now.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the New York Mets, who
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I think they did pretty well at this deadline all
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: things considered, and reloaded just enough within the minor league
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: ranks to be able to point them in the right
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: direction for next year. So, like I said, they shipped
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: out aj Minter to the Twins. They also shipped out
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Wasker Brozabon to the White Sox, as we mentioned, for
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis and Zach Franklin. They shipped out Brooks Rayley
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: to the Phillies for a couple of minor leaguers Luke
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Gabriisch and John Spikerman. I think most of those dudes
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: they shipped they got back for those relievers aren't going
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: to be too much. They did get back Sammy Steffura
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: from the Pirates for Luke Weaver, which I think has
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: a little more intrigued. Steffura has been a pretty solid
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: infielder coming through the Pittsburgh system and you know, really
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: could turn into something useful, I think, so somebody to
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on. While they also traded their what
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be their number one start this year
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: but has really fallen apart. Freddy Peralta went out to
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: the Rays, Aden Smith, Amelian Petrie, and Gary gil Hill
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: coming back. Gil Hill's probably the biggest name there, although
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: I think his upside is pretty limited in the big leagues.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: It is going to be a little bit more of
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: like an Inning Zeter, a little bit of like an
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Adrian Hauser type. I think sent out Ben Rhtvett as
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: well for Chase McDermott sent out Clay Holmes and Tyrone
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Taylor to the Cubs from Jefferson Rojas, which is probably
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: the biggest win for them, getting a solid and intriguing
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: shortstop middle infielder option in Rojas, who's been and heating
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: up pretty well for the Cups as the season has
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: been going on too. So what's your take here for
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: the Mets.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it kill right. I think, you know,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: Rojas and maybe Aiden Smith are kind of the the
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: bigger prospect gets here, But I don't know that either
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: of them are guys that I'm like really high on.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: I think Smith is a longer term project. I think
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: Rojas has maybe the higher upside, but both guys I
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: think definitely need a season or two more to kind
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: of figure out what they're gonna be. I think the bigger,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: bigger story for the Mets here is that they dealt
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: with some dollars on this book and moving some things
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: off that they just didn't want to be involved with anymore,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: which is important because this this team has bloated from
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: a payroll perspective. It was some bad contracts and it's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: gonna it's a few years that they need to work
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: through this. You know, Louis Robert should be off the
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: payroll after this year, unless they decide to extra size
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: that twenty million dollars club option, which I wouldn't expect.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: But you're sitting at fifty seven million on one so
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: next year, forty two on Bobo, chet, thirty four on
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: the Door, twenty six pillion on Marcus Simeon, twenty three
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: on our Hite Pilanco. They got some bad, bad, big
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: contracts here and they had to they had to move
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: from guys uh to free up some of those fun
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: So I think this was more of trying to clear
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: house and reset this team because they've got guys on old,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: bad contracts that are that are going to be kind
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: of dragging this this team down. So overall, nothing like.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: I think it was a good deadline for them, just
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: to clear house and do what they need to do.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: Got some decent prospects back that I think have some
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: long term potential. But outside of I said I think
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: Rojas might be the biggest get here, I still think
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions on what he he becomes.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: And I mean this is only a guy that's got
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: just under UH. This was around five hundred bats at
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: double A over the last two seasons. Really struggled there
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: in twenty five. It's done pretty well this year, but
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: I think still has a ways to go from a
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: maturity perspective.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yep, I'm right there with you. So the New York
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: Yankees were taking the subway just up the road and
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: it was limited but impactful. I think deadline for them,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: you know, they trade out Camulodvalla to the Pirates for
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of minor leaguers, and they also brought in
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: Elliott Ramos from the Giants in exchange for pitcher Henry
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: l Lane, which was a big, big send out, big prospect.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about him a little bit more. I think
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: when we get down to the Giants and Kayden Kent.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: They also acquired Luis Garcia Junior from the Nationals to play.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: It looks like first base going forward for Yovannie Cruz,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: Jack Severt, Ben Grabile and Jake Bird, where honestly, that's
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: the Nationals just needed bullpen arms like period and that's
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: essessie with the Yankees scent in exchange for Louis Garcia Junior,
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: which is a little bit sad if you're the Nationals,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: but Severt and Bird, you know, I think we're probably
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: the biggest gets there with Jack Sebert honestly has some
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: potential rotation impact. So because of that, the Yankees actually
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: have a little bit more to discuss from the actual
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: lineup changes. You know, this is why they part of
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: the reason why I think they made the shuffle with
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi sending him down. There's a good time to
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: just make that swap out, but they also sent down
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: Jason Dimingez to me able to make room for Elliott
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Ramos and then also sent down Max Schuman to be
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: able to make sure that the roster spot for Louis
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Garcia Junior. Garcia Junior should be the three hitter every day,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: Ramo should be the four hitter every day going forward.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: So they acquired the middle of their lineup to make
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: up for Judge and Bellinger being out. What do you
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: think about Garcia and ram Else going forward? Where I
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: think Louis Garcia Junior is already homered is gonna be
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: a great, great fit for that short porch I think
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: in Yankee Stadium.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start with Ramos just because I'm not too
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: intrigued one way or the other. Like, definitely got a
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: power bat there, Gonna be in a strong lineup, better field,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: So I think a little up arrow overall. But he's
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: he's the bridge, He's not the solution on that team.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: They're hoping for other things to work out and have
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: Ramos more in kind of a plug and play bench perspective,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: I think is where they're actually going to be happy with.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: But for now, with over injuries. He's gonna be right
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: in the middle of that lineup, and he does have
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: enough pop that they can be they can be dangerous,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: but he does struggle with lefties to a degree, so
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a little platoon risk there
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: Louis Garcia, though he's the big get I to your point,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the Nationals didn't get more for Louis Garcia.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: The guy has been on a heater for a while now,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: and I think he's made some real adjustments that he
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: is actually a better hitter. Don't get me wrong, there's
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: some luck in here. Like is he truly this like
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: thirty five Homer kind of guy that what he's on
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: a pace for. I don't think so. But there's probably
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: not a better landing spot for this lefty than that
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: short porch there in Yankee Stadium. And I think he's
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: gonna just fit in, and he's gonna have lineup protection.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: You know, he had some there in Washington, but that
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: line protection just went on the il and James Wood.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: But I think he's gonna have better lineup protection, better
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: run producing opportunities here in New York. And I think
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: he's gonna fit right in. He's kind of kind of
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: got a little chip on his shoulder type of guy.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a big up arrow for Luis
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: Garcia here and who's already having a kind of a
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: breakout year for what was the Nationals now the Yankees.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: So he's the big get for me. And I think
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: the Yankees have done what they need to to try
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: to plug the holes while they're waiting for some health
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: to get back into that team.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Ye yep, I think that's all very very great to
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: call out because yeah, that's the other component too, is
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: like once Bellinger and Judge are back, which I mean
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: they might.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: Not standing don't don't kin staying out of anything, he'll
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: at least be back for a game.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it'll only be in September for us
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: fantasy players, like for maybe a couple of weeks, but
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a formidable lineup for the playoffs. And
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: then that's exactly the type of rotation we're talking about,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: like the Brewers need you know, they've got Schlitler and
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: Cole and probably Rodon and Freed there that it's gonna
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: be a much more dangerous squad than I think it
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: has been during the regular season. When we get to
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, well, as long as any boon doesn't implode
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: per usual. Yeah, Okay, Let's go to the Philadelphia Phillies,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: where you know they were making additions kind of around
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: the corners, but then added a big one, Louisa Rice
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: coming across with Caleb Hillian to bolster that bullpen as
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: well exchange for Roman Marquez, who's been a breakout arm
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: for the Phillies and the low Miners this year, and
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: Marty Garet a reliever. They also added Kolby Thomas that
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: you talked about earlier, Camra Meisner we talked about to
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: add a little bit of corner outfield depth, added Brooks
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Brayley as well from the Mets. But the really intriguing
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: thing obviously adding the Luis Rice, who's been really really
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: good this year, not only with the bat but also defensively,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: like he's been a really good irl baseball player, and honestly,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: he's been hitting for enough power this year that he's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: not the batting average, empty stat line fantasy player that
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: I think we've usually dogged him for in the past.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: We'll see if he keeps it going forward, but certainly
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: I think is certainly a viable second baseman in just
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: about any league, getting anymore just because second base has
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: become such a dark spot across all fantasy just kind
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: of a black hole. The other thing to consider here, though,
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: is Lisa Rice coming to town is pushing Bryce Harper
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: back to the outfield. So the way that they're going
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: to handle this is the philly is going to move
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: Bryson Stock to third base, Alec Bohm to first base,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: and then Bryce Harper to right field. So Bryce Harper
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: should pick up outfield eligibility this time next week. So
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: what's your take on Louisa Rice joining the Phillies and
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: any concerns about Bryce Harper wandering back out into the grass.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we all know I'm not a big
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: Luisa Rias fan, so I'll try to leave that to
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: the side. But he's had a decent year. He has
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: had a little bit more power. It's in the extra
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: base hits, not the homers where we're seeing that, and
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: so that's led to some better rum production. Again, not
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: in a strong lineup with San Francisco, so I think
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: it is an up arrow for him coming over to
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: a better lineup, better opportunity so yeah, again he is
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: that kind of corner infield type of guy that that's
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: what you're looking for. Ariah's probably better real world use here,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: I think the bigger I.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: Will say though, with a rise when he hitting three twenty,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: it's much better from when it's like three hundred, So
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: that three twenty mark it can just really allow you
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: to hang tight in average. So as long as he
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: stays there, it's a pretty big boost. I think he's.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: Actually run he's ten for ten and soul in bases
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: this year, so he's on pace to pass his his
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: career high and actually he's probably on paces past his
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: career high in RBI as well, so like he's filling Sashi. Yeah,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: the homers aren't there, but overall, think things have worked
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: out pretty gush darn darned well for him, and it's
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: it's just been a better year kind of what he
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: was doing, uh back for the for the Twins, uh
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: you know a few years ago. Harper, that's the one
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned with here, and it's if there's any guy
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: that doesn't know how to meter things down the right way,
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: it's Bryce Harper. And he's again having another solid Bryce
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: Harper year. He's gonna be a thirty homer bat, a
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: two sixty average, He's gonna probably flirt with one hundred
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: runs one hundred RBIs Like this is then just Bryce Harper. He's,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: you know, a Hall of Famer. In my mind, I'm
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: worried he's gonna run to the wall and or throw
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: his arm off or something like that. Like that's my
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: word with Bryce Harper. He doesn't have an off switch
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't know how to handle it, and I
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: think this is a big risk for him. The value
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: for Harper goes up because he gets the other eligibility.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: We love the guys that have that, you know, first
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: base outfield type eligibility, and you know for him, he's
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: he's gonna pick up that. It's actually funny Fangrafts listen
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: as an outfielder completely, which is he hasn't been for
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: some time. I was throwing me off. But I like
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: the positional flexibility that it's going to give teams. I
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: just I'm worried about him staying healthy in it.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm a little bit more worried
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: about just a leg injury because he hasn't been putting
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: in like the having to stretch out all season, But
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: big uparo for twenty twenty seven. Bryce Harper though, too,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: because he's gonna have first base outfield eligibility. That's gonna
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: be really clutch. Taking him in the second round of
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: drafts next year to be able to switch him around
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: and use them wherever it makes the most sense for you.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: So big for the fantasy side, but yeah, for the
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: rest of twenty twenty six, it's gonna be fascinating to
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: see how it works as well as like a little
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: bit of like you might want to watch it a
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: little bit with your Phillies pitchers in terms of where
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: they're at, what the lineup kind of is like, and
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: what the right field situation looks like, because the question
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: mark will be there on Bryce Harper's range until he
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: shows us otherwise.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of double switches in this one,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: Marpa moving to the infield late in the game, putting
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: a somebody else in the outfield to take things home.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I actually love your call for for twenty
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: seven though, because arias I wouldn't expect to stick around.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: Harper's moving back to first base with that extra eligibility,
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: that actually is a pretty big, pretty big boost in
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: drafts for for anybody trying to build out a team,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: getting that early flexibility is huge.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, let's go to the Pittsburgh Pirates across Pennsylvania. Honestly,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: they just traded for a new bullpen, which they needed
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: because this Pirates team looks like it's going to the
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: playoffs and the bullpen was the sore spot. And so
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: they brought an Andrew Moore from the Padres for Hunter Stratton,
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Kirby Yates from the Angels for Kyle Robinson, Lake Becker
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: from the Marlins for Brandon bidoit He and Son Lee,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: and Brian Sanchez, Luke Weaver for Sammy stephf Fura, Camille
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: Diddle Fall for Omar Alfonso and Louis Cruz. They also
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: brought in Ron Marinaccio from the Padres just for some
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: straight up cash, and that's pretty much what it was.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: So like that you've also got Yates, Weaver, Deval in
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: the mix now for saves certainly has not been the
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: finest hour over the past like month or so from
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Greg Grisoto. Mason Montgomery actually got the save last night.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: What are you doing with this Pirate's bullpen? Because the
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: thing is, it's not like they're like crushing teams. So
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: there actually are a lot of saves in this bullpen,
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: and if it can all be concentrated with one guy,
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: it's something to pursue you doing that. Or is this
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: the situation where they're just gonna mix and match us
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: all the way down the stretch.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: I think this is an eighty twenty share situation. I
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: think Luke Weaver is the guy. He's done it before.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: He's I know he's not been absolutely the perfect closer,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: but he's done it with the big lights in New York.
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 2: He's he's had some strong runs in the playoffs, like
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: he's he's a strong that there for me to be
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: that closer and pick up a majority of saves. I
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: think the second guy's actually made some Montgomery. He's kind
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 2: of the young up and comer. He has some nasty
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: stuff when you can control it, and I think he
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: gets the other twenty percent. I think Doval and Yates
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: and the rest of that bullpen, which is literally is
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: a half new bullpen. I think that that those guys
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: are just trying to be the bridge between a I
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: mean a solid, solid rotation and which I think between
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: Montgomery and Weaver could be a pretty solid back end
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: of the of the bullpen. So I really love what
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: the Pirates did here, Like this is kind of like
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: the Cubs. It's it's really interesting to see the NL
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: Central making moves, which is ale Central didn't really do
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: a whole lot as we talk about it. But Cubs
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: went out got a whole new rotation. The Pirates went
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: and got a whole new bullpen, and the Brewers went
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: and got a lot of things and that didn't do much,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting how it plays. But I think
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: this is really really good moves by the Pirates, and
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: I'm all in on Luke Weaver here.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think the other thing that's an up
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: arrow is just Pirates starters as well, that you don't
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: have to worry about that bullpen blowing any of the
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: wins as much so that like the wins, when the
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: Pirates starters come out of the fifth sixth inning, that
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: lead has a better chance of holding all the way through.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: So a little bit of an up arrow, I think
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: two for ashcraft and not schemes that like, I mean,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: there might be a discussion for a different day, but
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: lots more intrigue I think for wins leagues, for Pirates starters.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: All right, San Diego Padres, your boy aj Peller, he
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: couldn't stand pat He went out and acquired Casey Maes
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: and gauge workmen from the Tigers for cash Mayfield and
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: Jackson Wolf acquired Robbie Ray from the Giants for Miguel
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: Mendez and Yoniel Hernandez. Pretty much drained all of the
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: starting pitching prospects they had between Mayfield, Wolf and Mendez
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: there in San Diego. That you know, it is just
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: when you thought that they couldn't get shallower, AJ Peller
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: is like, hey watch me. So really the only pitcher
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like in their system right now is
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: Cruise school Craft. So something to watch, I think for
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: the Padres. But they also just find a way to
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: reload and reset every time. The impact here is because
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Mayes should walk in and be the number
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: one starter now for the Padres, Robbie Ray probably number
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: two or three there. It is pushing Randy Vasquez and
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: Griffin Canning to the Bulfin for the Padres, but I
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: think they'll also kind of swap in and out with
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: Harmon Marquez there where you know, the three of them, Marquez, Canning, Vasquez,
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: they're going to make up like a long relief slash
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: fifth starter combination. So yeah, another guy crossing the ALNL
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: divide here with Casey myiz and he's been pretty dang
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: good this year. Robbie Ray, it was a rougher start
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: to the season, but he steadied out and his more
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: of like a mid to upper threes option and great
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: landing spot in Sandygo because we know that it's a
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: nice park to pitch in. It'll get colder as the
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: year goes on, and that Marine Pacific layer comes in
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: into that ballpark and just allows it to play better
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: for pictures in general. So what's your take here on
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: the addition of these pictures for the Padres.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. Casey Mice is the big
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: get here. He's been solid. You know, he's he's adapted
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: as a pitcher and he's been really really good this year,
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 2: running with a two to seveny Ray. But the numbers
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: back it up, like all the underline numbers back it up.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: I think this is a decent move for him. You know,
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: the ballpark's probably relatively neutral, maybe a little step back,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: but maybe a little step forward with some of the
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: rest of the team there for him, So maybe a
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: better chance for wins because he threw sixteen games Starry
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: who was only four and six this year, even though
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: he's running that two seventy era. So I think some
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: off setting, maybe a slight arrow up for myz Robbie Ray.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: It's still a streamer for me, like the guy scares
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: me to no end. That three three oh eight e
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: ra is definitely a bit of a mirage. You're gonna
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: he's gonna blow up with Walks and uh and Homers
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: and uh. The the X fit at four seventy five
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: is a little bit more of the truth for for Ray.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: But give the Padres credit. They're gonna try to make
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: that run. They're gonna try to somehow get out of
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: the the NL West and and make something happen. And
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, there only two games back behind behind the
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: the d Becks there and they're in definitely in the
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: hunt for the wild card. So they're they're trying to
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: do what they can. But I think really the big
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: git here is Myze. Unfortunately, a lot of these guys
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: are gonna look gonna be free agents, and so I
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: think the Padres are they're gonna be interested very in
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: for a very interesting uh point in time this offseason.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 2: Another team that actually could have gone for some good
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: trimina payroll, uh for for for the team with Machado
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: and Bogarts and Teas and Musgrove taking up quite a
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: bit of cash going forward. But and I think I
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: saw Nick Povetta actually came out of his rehab injured
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: off the side, so not looking so good there, But yeah,
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: up arrow from eyes, I'd still stay away from Robert Ray.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the nice thing here is that, like
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: you might be a little bit worried because Mais and
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: Ray are both flatball pitchers, but because of what we
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: were talking about, that Marine layer in park in San Diego,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: it helps them out a little bit as well as
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty decent outfield. I mean, Sheets is out
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: there and left now, but you know you got a
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: good center fielder and the platinum Glover and right field
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: the Tatis. So yeah, it'll be fascinating to see what
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: the Padres do, maybe like the number one team out
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: there rooting for a lockout next year. So yeah, okay,
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: let's go to the Seattle Maners. Another I think loser
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: of this trade deadline that this team I think just
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: needed more help and as pretty obvious as the season
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: has been going on or finding a path forward, that
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: they could have freed a rotation spot very unanimously for
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson, because you know, shipping out Luce Castillo certainly
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: opens up a little bit of a spot there, gets
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: rid of the piggyback situation. But I think they probably
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: should have capitalized on Emerson Hancock while they could have that,
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of intrigue around him and probably
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: still just needed another bat that I don't know what
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: it would have been or where it would have come from,
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: but it would have made me feel better about them
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: being able to chase down the Astros as the stretch goes. So,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier when we were talking to the White Sox,
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: they shipped out Luis Castillo, bringing back sar Anthony Dominguez,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: who should be nothing for fantasy, but we'll be in
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: the middle of that bullpen. Nolan Jones, who is just
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: battling back issues in the miners. I don't know what
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: his long term outlook looks like. And then Boston Smith
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: is also came across there too, Catcher probably more of
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: a depth piece going forward. But they also picked up
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: Taylor Ward from the Orioles in exchange for Alex hop
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: brock Moore and hear some kreeling. So really just like
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: a poo poo platter of prospects that nothing really too intriguing.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: They're going back to the Orioles. But let's talk Taylor
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: Ward because it's been a really strange season from him,
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: where the power has evaporated and the walks have gone
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: through the roof, like he's one of the highest walk
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: dudes just in the entire league. What the fallout is
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: currently is that Luke Rayley went on the IL, So
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: really the rest of the lineup here in Seattle should
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: be the same with just Taylor Ward. Considered to write
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: so tough ballpark to hit in. But are you intrigued
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: by Ward joint the Mariners.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: I have to say, I've never really been a Taylor
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: Ward guy, and I was always worried that that home
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: run power was a little bit of a mirage, and
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: he's had some pretty rough luck this year. Things have
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: just not made out. I think that ballpark in Baltimore
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: just was not a fit for his bat. He had
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: a lot lot of long, loud outs there, and I
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: think that that hurt him. So maybe this is an
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: actual upgrade in ballpark. Maybe we don't really talk about
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: that often for Seattle. The big thing that I'm worried
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: about him, and it's something that he's always struggled with,
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: is I just keep looking at underlying stats. They've taken
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: a step back, and that bat speed continues to drop
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: and it feels like he's compensating. I don't know if
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: he's hurt or something, but we're going down the cave
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 2: on Bigio route of being overly patient and not to
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: the point that you're not even swinging at good pitches.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: And I think that's that's that's concerning. Like, if you
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: actually look at his chase rate, it is down under
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: fifteen percent, which is just amazing, but his swing rate
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: in the zone is down very well and is what
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: they call meatball right down the middle. Swing percent is like, well,
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: I think, twelve points worse than major league average. He's
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: just being so gush darn picky that he's not swing
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: at the pitches he needs to, and then when he
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: does that bass pie is just not caring what it
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: needs to. So yeah, you can't like fully cast off
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward here. But I'm just I'm really having a
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: hard time buying this version. Even when he was going
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: to Baltimore, we thought there was a little more intrigued
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: there because he could let the big the big flies
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: go and he could swing away at things. But yeah,
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's just not come through here and he's turned
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: into a completely different guy.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's also going to be the
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: free agent case for Taylor Ward's gonna be rough. I
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: think where it's gonna be a little bit reminiscent of
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: like Michael Kuinfordo, where I think Ward's gonna go into
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: the offseason thinking that he's gonna be in line for
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: a decent sized contract, but I don't think anybody's gonna
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: give him anything more than like a one year like
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: eighteen million to be a corner outfielder. And he's probably
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: got a couple of contracts like that in his future
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: and he's just gonna fade away after that, where especially
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: without the power, like there's just I don't know what
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: else is in the profile forwards, So certainly in leagues
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: where maybe you had him, it's such a ballpark downgrade. Honestly,
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: he might be cuttable at this point because he also
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: is adjust to that ballpark on the fly. Where's it's
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: gonna be tough?
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely tough.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay. Seeing those Cardinals, I think they had a pretty
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: nifty little deadline, So I think that they put together
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of the pieces that they really were looking
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: to while keeping the or going forward at the right pace. So,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: like we covered already, I mean, actually I could probably
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: say that for all of these Yes, So Caleb Ferguson
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: coming over from the Reds for money, Lars Neupar out
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: the door for Danielle Egan, right hander who should be
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be in the discussion for Cardinal's rotation
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: spot towards the end of the year. Has been a
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: double A for the d Backs. It's been tough. Four
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: ninety five R five sixteen FIP over eighty seven and
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: a third innings, but that's a tough environment to pitch
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: in as well. Has a good K minus BB has
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: consistently run over twenty percent over a couple of levels.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: You've also picked. They also picked up a lefty who
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: will probably just be a bullpen piece, Sandro Santana from
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Dbacks there too. Then for Dustin Main Jojo
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 1: Ramiro picking up maybe like it might end up being
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: the best guy that moves at this deadline, to be honest,
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: like their hope is the the highest rated right now.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: But Alexander Friez is an eighteen year old in a
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: ball Dominican signed out of their last year, and so
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: it's been great for him across mostly most of this
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: work was on the complex, I will say that where
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: the pitching has been pretty weak this year, but across
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: two levels complex and low a as an eighteen year
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: old eight homers nineteen Stone bases over sixty games with
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: a three forty two four twenty seven, five point fifty
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: three slash line and also just has the frame that
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: you want to see six foot two one seventy five
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: frame that you can build out and is rated as
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: a fifty future value by fangrass with pretty solid grades
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: across the board forty five hit future, sixty game power,
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: fifty speed. And then they also well they added Scott
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: blew It, but or centaway Scot blew It, but that
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: was before the deadline. So let's talk Egan, Let's talk
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: free Es and then we talked a little bit about
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: the rotation post dustin May with the Quinn Matthews discussion
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: at the top of the of the pod here, So
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: probably not too much more to go through there, but
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: free Es and Egan, what are you thinking?
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Egan is one of those
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: guys that he was a pretty good draft pick, and
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: I think he was pretty high in that system. He's
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: had a few rough years, but he's also not pitching
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: the best environment in the minor leagues. There definitely a
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: run producing environment, so I think he's a kind of
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: changing the scenery guy, somebody that's got some intrigue. But
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think he's like a huge, huge prospect.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: I think he's one of those guys that is a
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: development project, but he I don't know if he can
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: play a role this year. I think he's more of
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: a guy. It's I almost got like the hundred Dobbins
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: kind of position that they where they picked him up,
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: was like, it's interesting, he's on the precipice quickly know
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 2: if we have something or not. That's kind of where
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: I'm with Egan. But still a good gift for for
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 2: New Bar. I think Frius is the the the gym
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: here by by all accounts, it's always interesting when you
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: walked the fans of, you know, both teams. A lot
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: of the times are like they're talking about how they
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: got this great deal and both team fans are arguing
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: with how their team won, Like the Brewers fans were mad.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: They were just mad about this. And Freus, outside of
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: h he's number three in that system, arguably by some rankings.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 2: Others haven't quite a bit lower, so they just haven't
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: been updating this year. But number three is saying something
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: when it's behind Haesus, Madday and Louis Paina, and you
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: know that's that's being a guy above guys like Jefferson, Cuero,
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 2: Cooper Pratt, Luis Lara, you know Andrew Fisher who has
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: just been hitting, you know, hitting seventy home runs, it
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: feels like in the minors this year, I think it's
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: thirty seven or something like that. I don't know exactly
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: what number he's at. It's crazy, though, and he is
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: a guy that just seems to have all the talents
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: in the world, very toolsy player, and he is flying up.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a top fifty prospect
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: by the end of the season. And I mean we're
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 2: talking about an eighteen year old at a ball and
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: I think a lot more is going to come with
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: this one. So I think for you us, look still,
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: I think even Ragsdale is kind of in the same
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: boat as well. Very toolsy player, you know, twenty two
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: year old here at double A, who's really held his own.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 2: He's at a WRC plus of four and twenty six
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: games at double A, hitting two ninety two with twelve
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 2: homers and seven steals, walking almost twenty percent of the time.
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: A little free swinger at at point too, So it's
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: a little contact questions. But I think both of those
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: guys have big, big up arrows, so big big gets
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: for the Cardinals here exactly what they needed to do him.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: Bloom is doing some good work.
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And even with Egan, like
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 1: just strike out upside, which is something the Cardinals have
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: been lacking. So yeah, nice, nice little deadline for them.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Tampa Bay Rays, who this is gonna be
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: an impressive list just because you're going to hopefully know
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: all the names and I'm going to rattle off that
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: they acquired so picked up Freddy Peralta from the Mets
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: who got shelled tonight in Colorado, and I was worried
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: about Freddy Perlta, And that's also why Peralta they were
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: able to trade Aiden Smith, Amelian Petrie, and Gary gil
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: Hill for him, because that's not a great return for
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: Freddy Pralta type player. I think Freddy Peralta has been
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: nursing something because the release angle has been dropping all year,
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: the extension has been lower, and I think he's been
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: trying to battle through something just to be able to
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: get to free agency. And I don't know if there's
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: actually much upside in that arm that the Rays can
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: extract from right now. So something keep in mind for
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: fab bidding on him, because he's going to be a
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: hot commodity crossing that n AL divide in ale only leagues.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: But I might just like sit it out because I
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: don't know if I want to shell out the cash
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: that it will take because I just don't know how
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: useful he's gonna end up being. They also picked up
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: Liam Hicks from the Marlins to solve their catcher situation,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: which is I mean, they've always seems to have had
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: a hole there, so I'll be great for them. Tyler
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: Wells joining the bullpen, and then I alluded to this
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: during the Dodgers talk. They added Jack Sawinski, who is
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: in Triple A and is looks like he's staying there
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: right now for the Rays, but the Dodgers reworked him
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: that So far this season, since he's been with the
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: Dodgers and in their system, it's all been at Triple
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: A two ninety one, three, eighty six, five, sixty two
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: slash line cut his k rate from it used to
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: be well over thirty percent down to twenty two point
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: one percent twenty one bombs in ninety three games. This
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: is exactly the type of the type of player the
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: Rays are gonna turn into a strong sight platoon behemoth.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: I think. So if you are in an ale only league, honestly,
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: I would, if you're able to, I would put in
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: like a minimum bid on Jack Sewinsky to stash him
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: on the bench just to see if he comes up.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: Because right now they have Victor Mason Junior playing this
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: role at the big league level for the Rays, but
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: it's kind of been more defense forward and if they
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: want to switch the gears to be able to get
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: a little more offense. There's not much of a difference
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: I think between Sewinsky and Mesa, and he could be
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: up pretty quickly. The only thing holding back is he's
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: not on a forty man roster, so they're gonna have
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: to make a forty man move to get Sewinsky up
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: in Tampa. Otherwise, other fallout in terms of the rotation,
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: Shane McClanahan hitting the IL opened up the spot for
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta, So no impact there. Nick Fortes, I mean
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: he was hot. He was getting picked up in some
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen teams leagues, So sorry, if you have to go
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: find another catcher and you were using Nick Fortez, I
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: would go maybe pick up Joey Bart. But not a
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: lot of other fallout here for the Rays that otherwise
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 1: they've been able to keep the rest of their big
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: league team pretty much intact. So what do you think
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: about this? For the Rays? What do you think about
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: their deadline? Because I'm a little mixed. It was good,
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 1: but like you also want to talk about another team
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: that could have been in on two week school a
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: little bit more. I think the Rays had the prospect
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: cash to do it and probably could have pushed it
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit harder.
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they did. You know, THEO Gillen
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: was the was the trade ship. They didn't want to
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: let go, and if they would have been willing to
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: part with him, they could have done some damage. But
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, overall, this is a very raised deadline. They
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: plug some holes. I think you're right on with he's
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: that he is a Quada player and maybe something better
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 2: and probably not a you know, Dodgers seem to get
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 2: a lot out of their guys in the miners and
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: then when they ship them out. I think Rays might
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 2: have been one of the best slanding spots from him,
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: So I think that's intriguing. Peralta like I I think
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: he's cooked. It's it's not looking good. I was looking
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: at his uh savant page and then you know, doing
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: the whole similar pictures to to Peralta. We got the
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one versions of Glenn Otto, Christian Xavier, Daniel
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 2: Ponce de Leon, and Alec Manoa. That's that's that's your list,
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: and don't worry. The kicker is twenty twenty six version
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: of Spencer Strider like and it's just it's bad. Like
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: across the board, everything just has taken a step back,
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I guess if there's a team that's gonna
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: figure that out, you know, this is one of the
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: top two or three I would I would be willing
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: to gamble on, but I'm I'm avoiding so lots of
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 2: interesting pieces. But it's much more better baseball, real life
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: baseball moves then fantasy moves.
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And because I should have brought up this name
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: when we're talking Sewinsky, because did the exact same thing
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: was rebuilt by the Dodgers and then traded to the
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: Rays Luke Raley, That's exactly who Swinsky is. But Luke
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: Rayley has his fits of being useful for fantasy, so
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: I think Swinsky is right in the same mold. Let's
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: get to the Texas Rangers. Another pretty boring deadline here,
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: sent out Josh Smith for Adam Maco with the Blue Jays,
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: shipped out on hell Arun Dondo for Chase Silseth, and
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: Logan o'happy from the Angels. And I do want to
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: focus here on o'happy because the Rangers didn't have a
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: catcher and then they demoted Ohapi. So that just shows
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 1: you kind of like where things have kind of fallen
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: for Ohappy where you know, was certainly solid in twenty
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: twenty four, but it's been real tough in twenty twenty six,
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five was even fine at the gate and
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: then fell apart late. The injuries have certainly mounted up.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: He turns twenty seven in February, surprisingly and couldn't catch
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: on with a team that had no catchers. You know. Currently,
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: Elias Diaz as a starting catcher for the Texas Rangers
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 1: with Austin Wins backing him up. So any any intrigue
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 1: you know hoppy here or is this a situation where hey,
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: maybe the Rangers have a fix for him. They're sending
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: him to Triple A first and you think that there
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: might be something in that bat.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's always one of those things where
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: a guy that could produce like he did look so
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: good like he did, you're always gonna want to put
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: him on the watch list. But right now I'm pretty
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: much out and just check in every once in a
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: while see if if he's tweaked anything and making a move. Honestly,
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: the only thing I'd even be interested in at this
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 2: point was maybe Chase Stills this and see if he
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: maybe sneaks some saves out might be the only thing
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: going on this deadline for the Rangers, and that's just
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 2: a pretty a electric arm, but electric being dangerous and
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: not knows where it's going at all points in times.
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 2: So I think this is relatively a non event for
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 2: the Rangers, this trade deadline. I think they could have
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: they just didn't want to pick a direction. Of all teams,
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: they pretty much were the most docile.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they were trying to sell too, because
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: it sounds like Jacob de Gram turned down this trade
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: to Atlanta and exercise the snow trade clause, which I
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 1: mean maybe in hindsight that's what Atlanta was trying to
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: do to pair with Chris Sale, but certainly could have
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: pivoted a little bit better, it feels like. So yeah,
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: it also just kind of strange to me because like
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: Texas has a solid roster and that ale at last
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: is up for grabs, and especially when you're talking like
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram at the top of that rotation and
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: Nathan Uovaldi right behind him with you know, Kumar Rocker
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: has been looking a lot better and you know, it's
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: not a bad lineup. It's an intriguing playoff team that
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: it's strange that they were trying to sell is what
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, the Toronto Blue Jays, so they
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: had a lot of moves going on. If anything, I
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: think what they mostly were focused on was just totally
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: restocking the depth of their pitching going into twenty twenty seven,
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: partly because in twenty twenty six it was awful. I've
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: been writing about this for BP when I do my
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: piece on just looking at the different depth charts for
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: starting pitching, and the Toronto Blue Jays had nothing all season.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: That's why they had to bring in Patrick Corbin at
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. So they've really built out
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: some of this by you know, picking up Spainseraghetti for
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: Dalton varshow Arraghetti should walk right into the rotation from
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: that spot that Gausman filled up, along with Jose Soriano
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: walking into the rotation. Like I said, we said, shipped
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 1: out Namala for Soriano. They added Josh Smith just from
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: the Rangers, as we discussed who should be a part
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 1: of the rotation. We'll see how they deploy him, but
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: could get some more at bats. As you know, Ernie
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: Clement has kind of faded down the stretch. You've also
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: got an infusion of Jasan Hill, who great arm I
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: like him, but trouble with finding the zone. The nice
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: thing is that the Blue Jays seem to have some
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: pretty good pitching development. Might be able to figure out
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 1: a tweak there also, I mean, honestly could figure out
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 1: a tweak or two for Arraghetti and Soriano. Picked up
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: Tie south Scene and Brett Bateman from the Cubs, and
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: that Kevin Gassman trade, which South Scene is going to
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: be a pretty decent prospect for them, I think going forward,
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: and was hitting pretty well for the Cubs. The Cubs
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: have been pretty good at finding players like south Scene
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: at good points in the draft to be able to
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: ship out in trades like this. But obviously the two
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: big gits are going to be focused on Soriano and Arraghetty,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: who actually he is on the IL right now, so
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: I should call that out, but should walk right back
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: into the rotation. Also, looks like Chaya Savage has left
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: his start tonight, so that might open a little more intrigue.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: They did bring in Jameson Tayan, who is cut by
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: the Cubs, but I just know just the dude is
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: a Homer machine waiting to happen. So, yeah, Soriano, I
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the main one to talk about
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: here for the Blue Jays. But what do you think
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: about their situation overall?
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right, they were trying to restock
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: some arms and they've kind of put themselves in a
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: rough spot where they've gone really really veteran heavy outside
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: like the guys like you, Savage. So I think that
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: that was the move bringing the Soriano's and Arraghetti's Josh
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 2: Smith is. I think what they wanted to add some
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 2: barger to be and that clearly hasn't worked out this
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: year from a health perspective. Dayson Hill is probably the
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: most exciting arm here. I made fun of sil Seth
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 2: for not being able to control where the ball's going.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 2: Dayson Hill makes Silseth look like Vin to Shane Bieber,
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: and so I think there's some projects here. Honestly, I'm
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit lower on Jose Soriano, like he's he
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 2: had a really good first month and a half of
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: the season and he's been pretty up and down since then.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: So I think the Angels were kind of selling trying
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: to sell high here and I'm a little supply prized
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: they gave it Namala to get them, But I think
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 2: they're looking ahead and going, Man, my rotation is aging
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: very very fast. We get forty two year old Max
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: stures Are, I feel like forty two year old Shane Bieber,
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: even though he's actually thirty one. You know, Cees is
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 2: only thirty but feels much older. Is the way he's
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: kind of uh, he's been around for a long time.
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 2: And so I think that they they have a big
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: challenge in the rotation. So they're just trying to find
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: a three or four starter, which I think that's fair
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 2: for Soriano. So nothing jumps out at me here. Like
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm kind of generally shying away from Soriano.
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: I think Arigetty's just a really interesting project forum that
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 2: might be in the grand scheme of things we look
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 2: back in a few years, might be the biggest get
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 2: out of all this. Just he uses a big range
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 2: of potential outcomes.
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I think I'm right there with you on
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: all those guys. Okay, let's finish this off now with
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals, who did most of their work earlier
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: by trading Curtis Mead for Connelly early so early, still
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: on the aisle with the the elbow inflammation and will
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: hopefully get his way back before the end of the year,
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 1: but also a situation where Washington's probably not going to
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 1: be rushing early that like, They're going to want to
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 1: take their time with him because he should be probably
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: their number two starter going in the next year unless
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 1: they really get crazy adding maybe even number one honestly
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: the way that the artation is shaping up, but a
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 1: good deadline for them, I think in terms of building
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: some of that pitching depth that just kind of you
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 1: need to be moving forward, as you know. I think
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: they've got a lot of their young corps together on
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 1: the hitting side, especially if they lock up CJ. Abrams,
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: but Abrams and Wood and Cruises coming along, and you're
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: going to be seeing, I think a team that's starting
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 1: to round the corner and want to compete in twenty
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 1: twenty seven for a wild card and not surprised for
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: one the way they did this year. You know. So
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: in exchange for Foster Griffin, they picked up will Dion
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: Josh Hardle. Hardle's actually a pretty intriguing arm down double
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: A from Cleveland. I think could make some hay coming
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 1: through the Washington system. Dion had been a starter but
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 1: has been more of a reliever, So we'll see what
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: the Nats do with him. Like we talked about with Baltimore,
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: which pretty much opened this segment, picked up Christian Franklin,
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: who has had some prospect pedigree. So is currently going
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 1: to be playing in Triple A? I think no, he
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 1: should be on the big league roster. He was earlier
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 1: when I was looking at this and has since disappeared.
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe I just was crazy when I was looking atarly,
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 1: but it does feel like he should get a little
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: bit of corner infield play a little bit down the stretch.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: Out of Franklin, you are also going to be seeing
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 1: I think Jack Sebert from the Louis Garcia junior trade
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 1: could make a debut here. If not, it should be
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: early next year. Has been pretty solid at Double A
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: for the Yankees. It's a tougher environment there, but has
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 1: been pitching decently well on the season, with a K
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: minus BB that hovers around twenty percent across two levels.
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: And because the guys that they moved on, there's a
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: little bit more intrigue in terms of what's opening up.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 1: Aba melech or Tees is going to be the big
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 1: winner with Louis Garcia going out, should be the strong
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: side platoon, first basement for the Nats going forward, with
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: the possibility of kind of just taking that job for
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: himself if he can show that he can just hang
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: against lefties. The problem is it's got Andre Schaparro right
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: there with him, who's like a lefty masher. So even
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 1: though our Teez is twenty four and a little bit
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: of like more of the future first base for the Nationals,
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: we'll see how much run he actually ends up getting.
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: So what do you take from the Nationals trade deadline moves?
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is just a solid deadline for
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 2: the Nationals. Just a lot of depth rebuilding, especially on
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 2: the pitching side. I don't know if there's one guy
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 2: this was like I'm really excited about. I think Hardle's interesting.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 2: I think Cruz has a little interest. I think Suburb
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 2: I think was of all of them, is the one
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 2: that does jump out. And I don't think he's like
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 2: a huge prospect. He's a guy and the guy that
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 2: could you know, continually be in the back of a rotation,
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 2: more of a pitchability guy than like a stuff guy,
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: and so I think he's a guy to keep an
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 2: eye out. I know early was early was early in
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 2: the deadline. I think he's the biggest intrigue for me overall.
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 2: But like I said, I think the Nationals were really
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 2: just trying to restock the upper system of some some
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 2: decent arms, because they they have some strong hitting at
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: least half their lineup. Right, you have the Abrams Dylan
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: cruises looked better, clearly, James, would you know. I think
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 2: there's a good, nice core there, but they yea. Even
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 2: Kate Cavelli from a starting perspective has been strong. Bullpen's
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: actually been a little bit better I think than people realize.
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 2: So I think they're just trying to find some depth
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 2: overall with the Nationals here. So decent deadline, but nothing
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 2: to jumping out too.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: Much for me. Yeah, okay, well we did it. We
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: wrapped up all the teams. It was quite the little marathon.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: But I think we've been finding that these are a
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 1: marathon every year. So marathon every year unless unless the
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: volume slows down, which I don't know if it ever will.
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 1: Given the third wild card spot in both leagues and
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: the teams that are coming in going at the same time.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 1: There's as well as just there's not that waiver period
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 1: anymore that teams have to make their deadline moves at
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 1: the deadline now, so it's created a lot of intrigue
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 1: going to really shuffle the deck, I think for fantasies.
• 2:45:20
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• 2:45:23
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• 2:45:25
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• 2:45:29
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