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- 0:00Welcome to Buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Saturday, December sixteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Cotton Bowl game against Missouri is in thirteen days,
- 0:07the game against Michigan in three hundred and fifty days. Early Signing Day is
- 0:12four days away at this point, that is Wednesday, December twentieth, and
- 0:16the Buckeyes are most of the way done with their class. But could they
- 0:21add some folks between now and early signing Day, but they lose some folks
- 0:25between now and early signing Day. We're going to be talking about that today
- 0:28with Mark Givler of Buckey Huddle dot Com. He just dropped a really,
- 0:31really interesting and in depth insider report for all our Buckey Huddle dot com members
- 0:38on the Huddleboard, presented by Jeff Ruby Steakhouse, talking about some of the
- 0:41stuff we're talking about today. Also plenty of stuff on the transfer portal,
- 0:46a lot of interesting info there, and then some stuff on Buck guys who
- 0:51maybe coming back, may not be coming back where things doan with some of
- 0:54those guys as well, So lots of really interesting information there. But Mark,
- 0:58today we're just gonna be talking about high school recu even though there's a
- 1:00lot of other stuff going on. Let's start with four star defensive tackle Carlin
- 1:04Jones. He's someone who the Buckeyes are hoping to add to their class,
- 1:08but he still has another visit to make this weekend. So where do things
- 1:12stand with him and his recruitment as they head into the home stretch before next
- 1:18Wednesday's early starting. Yeah, he'll be sneaking in this visit to USC.
- 1:22That'll wrap up before the end of the weekend, and that's pretty much the
- 1:27battle right now as Ohio State versus USC for the former Nebraska commit. He
- 1:32told me going into this week, he said it's really just those two at
- 1:36this point. So High Street hosted him last week. Everyone seems to think
- 1:42that went really well. They've got some stuff they can sell them in terms
- 1:46of early playing time, especially now with Justin Scott flipping to Miami here later
- 1:52in the process, so there's not a ton of defensive tackles ahead of him,
- 1:57so they're really working that angle. NFL development has been very key for
- 2:00him, and we'll see what goes here. I think the only thing Ohio
- 2:06State needs to be concerned about right now is visiting Ohio in December and then
- 2:09going out to the LA in December. I hope the weather, the difference
- 2:14in weather doesn't play a role there for the kid from Texas. But you
- 2:17know, Larry Johnson's been handling that one for the Buckeyes and I like where
- 2:23they stand. And now it's a matter of, you know, we see
- 2:24Alice us Eve as it goes and what the thought process is coming out of
- 2:29that. And defensive line feels like one spot where they really would like to
- 2:34add at least one more body, and Carlon Jones is one of the people
- 2:37they're looking at. They're also potentially in the running for a current Florida commit,
- 2:40Amarus Williams. He is also a four star defensive lineman And you had
- 2:46a very funny note in there. He's currently committed to Florida. Mark who
- 2:49are the top three teams in his recruitment right now for this current Florida recruit.
- 2:53Yes, it's Georgia, Auburn and Ohio State are are the three schools
- 2:58that have the best chance of landing him on when of signing him on Wednesday.
- 3:04Yeah, it's he's been committed to Florida for a while. I don't
- 3:07think Florida has led in several months. I think Ohio State has been kind
- 3:10of in the driver's seat the last couple of months. Georgia really started getting
- 3:15involved here the last few weeks. Same with Auburn. So he's he's got
- 3:20an official coming up or this weekend it will be his Georgia official. He
- 3:23had his Auburn one last week. He previously made an official to Ohio State
- 3:27and on a return on officials. So this is what they felt great about
- 3:31a few weeks ago. Do they still feel great? I think that's kind
- 3:36of the question. Now, the Auburn visit, now the Georgia visit.
- 3:38You would have liked those two maybe not happen and just kind of be an
- 3:42Ohio State Florida thing. So I think this is kind of muddying the waters
- 3:46a little bit. But you know, I still would would give the edge
- 3:47to Ohio State, but it's not something that maybe has moved that well in
- 3:53their direction the last couple of weeks. Just now that you're not just trying
- 3:58to flip them from Florida, you're trying to keep them from Er, You're
- 4:00trying to keep him from Aubourne as well, So that one's probably tightened up
- 4:04a little bit here the last few weeks, and he is listed just as
- 4:09a defensive lineman. Carlin Jones is listed as a defensive tackle and Williams listed
- 4:13at two hundred and seventy pounds, you would think, well, certainly they
- 4:15will just bulk him up a little bit and put him inside. But you
- 4:18know Edwick Houston is i think listed about two hundred and seventy pounds as well,
- 4:21and they've got him planning to play the edge. So do you have
- 4:25any sense for if Amarus Williams ends up in the class, if he starts
- 4:29at edge, or if they maybe start him at three tech or what what
- 4:30the plan is for him. Yeah, they're recruiting to play defensive end.
- 4:35Now when you look at him, it's kind of interesting. He looks like
- 4:40an end when you look at him. So he's carrying that weight very well.
- 4:43Now the question to that is, well, what does that mean once
- 4:46he gets into a college strength conditioning program? Is he going to balloon to
- 4:48like three point fifteen right away? Because he's carrying the two seventy so well,
- 4:51So we'll kind of see how that goes for him. But they are
- 4:56telling him defensive end. They're telling Jones, defensive tackle. They would love
- 4:59to land. This is not an either or where you know, they'll take
- 5:00one and that'll be it. They they would love to land both of these
- 5:03guys, all right. And someone else they would love to land is four
- 5:06star stafety Koy Perridge. He is currently committed to Minnesota and the buck Eyes
- 5:13have brought him in and have made their pitch to him. And where do
- 5:15things stand with him right now? Or are they going to be able to
- 5:18flip the flip him away from PJ. Fleck. I think they are.
- 5:24I'm pretty confident they're gonna land Koy Parrich. We'll see this. This could
- 5:29be coming down here pretty soon, probably the next forty eight hours. I
- 5:33don't think he's gonna wait until Wednesday. I think he's gonna make a decision
- 5:36on Sunday or Monday. He was supposed to visit Florida State this weekend.
- 5:41That's not happening. So it's it's Ohio State or Minnesota. The coaches are
- 5:45supposed both staff are supposed to have in homes, you know, over the
- 5:47next course of the next couple of days or you know, day and a
- 5:51half, whatever it may be. And then he'll sit down and make a
- 5:55decision before signing day. So I like where Ohio State is right now.
- 5:59I really like that he canceled to Florida State visit. He's spoken to me
- 6:02glowingly about Ohio State, the winning tradition and just you know, the NFL
- 6:06path and everything else about the program. He's he they really impressed him on
- 6:11his official visit recently, and so I think they're going to get this done,
- 6:15especially you start to look at you know, Minnesota has got a new
- 6:16defensive coordinator. They've got to make a defensive coordinator higher. They just lost
- 6:20their defensive coordinator. They've lost some other commits in that class along the defensive
- 6:25side of the ball, and it just it feels like it's lining up for
- 6:28an Ohio State flip. But this is a kid who I think people are
- 6:32are going to be, you know, maybe not as excited about as they
- 6:36should be. You know, he has jumped the recruiting rankings. There's some
- 6:41services think he's a top one hundred player. Now, he didn't have much
- 6:45going on in the summer. He was just kind of a top player in
- 6:47Minnesota, committed to Minnesota and Florida State. USC Ohio State get involved again.
- 6:53He cancels the Florida State visit, which is great news for Ohio State.
- 6:57So these are some big schools that started to chase him in Ohio State
- 7:00was not in a position where they had to take another safety. They just
- 7:02want to get this kid. So this is a guy I think people should
- 7:05be maybe more excited about than they currently are. Yeah. I just looked
- 7:10in two four to seven has a busy number eighty five overall player in the
- 7:13class, which you know, for a name that you hadn't really heard a
- 7:15whole heck of a lot about even a month or two back. Boy,
- 7:18that's a higher rating that you might expect. Do you have any sense for
- 7:24which of these safety positions they're looking at him at or is this a get
- 7:29him on campus and just sort of see where he fits best situation. I
- 7:32think it's that because it is kind of I was talking to Kevin Noon about
- 7:39this. We were recording something else for a potential signing day show if in
- 7:44fact Coy is in the class, and we talked about there's some parallels here
- 7:48with like Lincoln Keyholes obviously completely different positions, but he just looks like a
- 7:54man among boys playing there in Minnesota against the competition he's going against. He's
- 7:58just such a superior at Fleet that I think you'd like to get him on
- 8:01campus and kind of see, Okay, is he as fast as he looks
- 8:05or is he you know, is out of kind of a product of competition
- 8:09and things like that, and get to look at him. But you know,
- 8:09I think he's probably a free safety. He's a sub eleven hundred meter
- 8:13guy, so he's he's running the like the ten eight range, and the
- 8:18hundred meters runs four or five forty, great size, so I would think
- 8:24he could probably play back there. But yeah, I think they're gonna want
- 8:26to get a look at him and kind of let him run around with some
- 8:30of the type of athletes they have. Kind of figure that out. And
- 8:35he is from Esco, Minnesota, which based on some quick googling, is
- 8:39somewhere maybe an exurb of Duluth maybe some is a good way to describe it.
- 8:46A small town, two thousand people. And you know, you mentioned
- 8:50the weather might be a little bit of a factor. I don't think the
- 8:52winter weather in Columbus is going to scare anyone from northern Minnesota. So Buck
- 8:56guys may have that going for them as well of you know everyone, I'm
- 9:01sure as would be very happy if the Buckeyes and ended up flipping you know,
- 9:05one, two, three of those guys. But Mark boy lips can
- 9:09go two ways this time of year. And there has been plenty of smoke
- 9:13around four star running back Jordan Lyle, who's been committed to the Buckeyes for
- 9:18a while. Those Miami Hurricanes, Mark, are they going to do it
- 9:20again? Are they going to flip another Ohio State running back late in the
- 9:24cycle, another South Florida guy, and flip flip him to the Miami Hurricanes.
- 9:28How big a concern is that right now? Oh, it's it's it's
- 9:33red alert. I mean, it's the highest possible concern right now. He's
- 9:37he's scheduled to be back in Miami this weekend. And they've been hanging on
- 9:41for dear life here for a couple months. And I thought it's been it's
- 9:46been a hard guy to hang on to for them, And I thought it
- 9:48got much harder when they were unable to flip Chance Robinson from Miami. Chance
- 9:54as a four star receiver Brian Hartline was pursuing and trying to flip from Miami
- 9:58Saint Thomas aquinas teammate of Jordan Lyle's their buddies. And when Chance said Nope,
- 10:03I'm sticking with Miami, he obviously has since refocused his attention on flipping
- 10:07his buddy to Miami. And I would be a little surprised if they're able
- 10:13to hang on to him. And that's going to bring up all sorts of
- 10:16questions now, because if that happens, that's two years in a row they
- 10:20lose Mark Fletcher late out of South Florida to Miami. And here we are
- 10:24again in twenty five, looking ahead talking about a Miami Ohio state battle for
- 10:28American heritage stud running back Byron Lewis. And I've already been told they are
- 10:33not going to let the Jordan Lyle situation deter them from recruiting Byron Lewis in
- 10:37twenty five, And so you know, we're we're getting close to fool me
- 10:43twice with Jordan Lyle. So I don't think we want to get to a
- 10:46fool Me thrice with with Byron Lewis. But we could be three years in
- 10:52a row having these same conversations about Miami trying to flip one of their running
- 10:56backs late well, and there are some pretty goodrunning backs in the class of
- 11:01twenty and before we get to twenty five, let's let's just really quickly remind
- 11:03people they do have two other running backs currently committed for twenty twenty four.
- 11:07So this is not a you know, last year they lost Mark Fletcher late
- 11:11and did not end up taking a running back in the class. This year,
- 11:15that is not a concern they had. They still have Sam Williams Dixon
- 11:18from Pickerington, They still have James Peoples out of Texas. So this is
- 11:20not a you know, all or nothing situation with Lyle regardless of how it
- 11:26goes. But looking forward to next year, you know, we've talked about
- 11:30a whole bunch of guys. We talked about running backs out of California and
- 11:33Florida and all over the country. But there's some really good running backs in
- 11:35the state of Ohio too. And you wonder if they look at a multi
- 11:39back class, do you bring you know, do you look at someone like
- 11:43Bo Jackson plus someone else like Byron Lewis or whoever else. Yeah, I
- 11:48think it's certainly going to be a multi back class in twenty five. So
- 11:50the question is are you going to play things right with the in state guys,
- 11:56because really like Byron Lewis, and obviously they're in on Jordan Davison as
- 12:01well from Modern Day Out in California. You know, do you take two
- 12:05Ohio guys and tell the two Ohio guys, look, we're going to recruit
- 12:09a third back if it's one of these two guys, or do you pick
- 12:11your favorite Ohio guy and then chase your out of state guys. I mean,
- 12:15they've got some serious decisions to make. But one thing I was told
- 12:18this week is that they are definitely not going to stop for hurting Byron Lewis.
- 12:20Even though it looks like, you know, Mark Fletcher and Jordan Lyle
- 12:24may go the same direction here on them, that's not going to deter Tony
- 12:28Alford from Byron Lewis, who the Buck guys are probably leading for right now
- 12:33with Miami being the main competition. So it's going to feel like Groundhog's Day
- 12:37again next year as we talk about this battles, this running backs from South
- 12:43Florida battle that they'll be engaging again, I would imagine, and there I
- 12:46mentioned Bo Jackson's name. They also have another really solid running back, Marquise
- 12:52Davis out of Cleveland Heights. He's, you know, sort of a top
- 12:56one hundred ish back, top one fifty ish back, depending on which service
- 12:58you want to look at. But yeah, there are definitely some names to
- 13:01know for next year already. And you already dropped your what top thirty in
- 13:05Ohio? Was it top thirty, top twenty in Ohio for twenty twenty five?
- 13:11It was twenty five for twenty five. Oh, very clever, very
- 13:16clever. I should have figured that one out. Yeah, yeah, so,
- 13:22yes it was. And then it was fifteen for twenty six. Yes,
- 13:24so yep, got some early rankings up all right. So if you
- 13:28want to get a little bit of a local insight on the topart prospects of
- 13:33the state of Ohio, there's a pretty good offensive lineman who Ohio state's looking
- 13:35pretty good four for a class at twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five,
- 13:39And then some of the early names to know for twenty twenty six. You
- 13:43can find that all on the huddle board at bucke huddle dot com. Mark
- 13:45has been very busy on the recruiting, recruiting into things just sort of skimming
- 13:48the surface and the recruiting into things on today's show. We'll try and have
- 13:52him on in the coming days, because boy, there's a lot to talk
- 13:54about in the transfer portal. There's a lot of interesting stuff to talk about
- 13:58in terms of how many Buckeye might be coming back. A lot of the
- 14:01guys who are maybe sort of in between the all the guys who were sort
- 14:03of fifty to fifty when we talk to guys on Tuesday, where those guys
- 14:07might be leaning, maybe you're getting a few more guys back than you might
- 14:11expect. Mark took a look at all that stuff this week on the huddleboard
- 14:15atucke huddle dot com. His skull Session column one of the great insider only
- 14:18features you can get there at bucke huddle dot com if you are a member.
- 14:22It is all on the huddleboard, presented by Jeff Ruby steakhouse. Great
- 14:26great community, great spot to get some insight and analysis that you can't find.
- 14:31Uh, you know, you can't just find this just anywhere. Mark
- 14:35has been doing this for quite a while, has some pretty good connections,
- 14:37has some pretty good info. You can find that all at bucke huddle dot
- 14:39com. That will do it for today. I thank you guys all for
- 14:41joining us, have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.