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Mark interviews Gossip columnist Rob Shuter. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Maximore live from the WR Life Back studio.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hey with us right now. Rob Shooter, the great
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  Speaker 2: writer and columnists. Make sure you follow him on Substack
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  Speaker 2: is Substack is a Rob Shooter, naughty but nice. Follow
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  Speaker 2: him on Substack. Make sure you get his book, his
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  Speaker 2: best selling novel, You'll love it. It's called It Started
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  Speaker 2: with a Whisper. It's available now. It's Started with a
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  Speaker 2: Whisper by Rob Shooter. Rob. How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, good to be back, my friends?
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  Speaker 2: How are you good? He speaking of being back? I
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  Speaker 2: thought Rosie O'Donnell left the country. What the hell is
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  Speaker 2: she doing back here?
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  Speaker 1: She got help us off Rosies back in New York.
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  Speaker 1: She's been doing this controversial one woman show. I actually
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  Speaker 1: saw it last week. So she's doing this one woman show,
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  Speaker 1: and then I think next week she's filling in for
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  Speaker 1: her pal Jimmy Kimmel's on vacation.
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  Speaker 4: And now she's announced that.
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  Speaker 3: She's returning to the viewers next.
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  Speaker 1: It's the thirtieth anniversary of The View Blabomouse.
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  Speaker 4: Rosie with her loose.
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  Speaker 1: Lips has announced to the world but she's coming back.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hit the phones. Nobody hit the view knows.
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  Speaker 4: Anything about the shit, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They said, next year is a big anniversary and will
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  Speaker 1: they be celebrating it? And often these TV shows they
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  Speaker 1: do retrospectives. They look back over the last twenty thirty
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  Speaker 1: years and they pull up old clips and they bring
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  Speaker 1: back old hosts. So is there a possibility that Rosie
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  Speaker 1: might be invited back to be a guest on the show,
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  Speaker 1: not a host.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, But as of this moment, as we speak now, my.
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  Speaker 1: Friends, there's nothing on the books. Nobody knows about it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody at ABC is scratching their heads, including.
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  Speaker 4: The current host, the Whoopi Goldberg's and the Joys. There's
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  Speaker 4: just nothing there yet.
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  Speaker 1: They could be forwards again, Rosie is ahead of a skis.
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  Speaker 2: Hi can't believe she was. Why what did you say
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  Speaker 2: the thirtieth anniversary of The View?
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  Speaker 1: Do you imagine that thirty years I was a young
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  Speaker 1: publicist in New York. I had just arrived in New
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  Speaker 1: York and The View was one of the hottest shows.
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  Speaker 1: And I used to go there taking different celebrities, and
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  Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to work with Barbara Walters for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit in my PR days. And at first,
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  Speaker 1: everybody made fun of that show. Everybody who taught Pet
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  Speaker 1: show was going to get canceled after the first season.
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  Speaker 1: The numbers weren't very good, and I think if ABC
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  Speaker 1: hadn't had Barbara Walters attached to it, they would have
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  Speaker 1: canceled it. But they didn't want to upset Barbara, so
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  Speaker 1: they gave it a second chance, and in year two,
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  Speaker 1: year three it took off. But initially that show was
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  Speaker 1: a tough sell, and now it's been on for thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, originally Joy behar was like a once a
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  Speaker 2: week that was it?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember? Besides Barbara Walters who were the original.
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  Speaker 1: Gedby Metamophilis, she was like the MTV young person.
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  Speaker 4: Who always said things that annoyed Barbara.
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  Speaker 3: And then there was Star. Joe Star was heavy.
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  Speaker 1: Star was on there, and Meredith Vierira I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: who Meredith was called the view so it's Meredith Barbara
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  Speaker 1: Star and then.
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  Speaker 3: Joy was the Phillip host.
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  Speaker 1: Joy was, I mean, Joy was a savvy player to
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  Speaker 1: go from being a part time host on a TV
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  Speaker 1: show to be in a full time host for thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: She's the only original one left is Joy. She made
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  Speaker 1: a penny or two, so she negotiated the politics the drama,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff that goes on at ABC. She's still standing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, when it was Barbara Waters running it for
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  Speaker 2: many years, it was kind of down the middle, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some politics, some entertainment. But then it became crazy, just
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  Speaker 2: strictly left wing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's wild, isn't it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're in a lot of trouble at the moment with
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  Speaker 1: the FCC. The view is claiming that they are a
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  Speaker 1: political show, not an entertainment show.
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  Speaker 3: And ABC moved the view.
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  Speaker 1: When Barbara was there, it was in the entertainment division
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  Speaker 1: and really they focused on celebrities and cooking segments and
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  Speaker 1: fashion and occasionally a little bit of politics, but it
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  Speaker 1: is more of a lifestyle type show. Then they took
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  Speaker 1: a hard turn, which I don't think they would have
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  Speaker 1: done if Barbara had still been alive.
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  Speaker 3: Barbara's successes.
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  Speaker 1: Even though she was an incredible newswoman, she knew the
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  Speaker 1: power of entertainment. Her dad used to run the Latin
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  Speaker 1: Quarter here in New York. He was a showman, and
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  Speaker 1: so Barbara loved celebrities and she wanted that show each
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  Speaker 1: day to be kind of fun, not so heavy. If
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  Speaker 1: they were disagreeing about something, it would be Princess Diana's dress,
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  Speaker 1: not taxes or immigrational. But now they've took a hard turn,
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  Speaker 1: and there was recently a study I think not ninety
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  Speaker 1: percent of the guests lens to the left.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, but you know, on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: the aisle you got high IQ shows, low IQ shows.
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  Speaker 2: Like on the left, Rachel Matter, that'd be a high
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  Speaker 2: IQ show, and the view is the low IQ show
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  Speaker 2: and you need that. Yes, so it's okay. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 2: what are they on against? The price is right? I
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  Speaker 2: mean it doesn't have to be that smart. Hey, Carson Daly,
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  Speaker 2: what happened with him?
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  Speaker 3: Matt, Oh, this is trauma.
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  Speaker 1: So I've just announced the kiki. Yeah, this is not
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  Speaker 1: good anybody. He's been on the Voice since day one.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the original cast member too. All those
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  Speaker 1: judges and people spinning around in those red chairs, most
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  Speaker 1: of them have changed. Carson's the last connective tissue to
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  Speaker 1: the original Voice when it first debuted and it was.
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  Speaker 3: A huge success. He's now dropping out, is the official statement.
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  Speaker 1: The official press release is put out by publicists, and
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  Speaker 1: he wants the focus on his work on this day show.
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  Speaker 3: But he has been doing that and the view for the.
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  Speaker 1: Last and the Voice for the last decades, and so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's suddenly changed. It isn't like this
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  Speaker 1: is a new job and he's under a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: He's been juggling both for a really long time. And
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, he ain't the lead of the Today Show.
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  Speaker 1: He's on, you know, for a few minutes every day.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the host like Savannah. But he's been pushed out,
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  Speaker 1: so he's no longer on the Voice and Kiki Palmer
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  Speaker 1: is taking over. I'm told that even though the press
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  Speaker 1: releases and all the all the interviews are positive and happy,
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  Speaker 1: there's drama there. You and me have done this a
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  Speaker 1: long time. People don't leave jobs like that, they get
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  Speaker 1: pushed out. That is a fat job. It pays really well.
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  Speaker 1: It's an easy job. They fly him back and forth
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  Speaker 1: to la on a private plane and he tapes for
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  Speaker 1: a day. He comes back, they put him in a
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  Speaker 1: posh hotel. He's not sleeping on someone's gout. It's a cushy,
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  Speaker 1: cushy job, and it pays millions of dollars. And so
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  Speaker 1: the fact that NBC has pulled that from him, that's
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  Speaker 1: not a good sign.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think it really is. They want somebody younger, thinner, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I think they want someone younger, someone of color, that
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  Speaker 1: shows a little dated, that shows a little boring. They
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  Speaker 1: like to woke things up, don't they Over at NBC,
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  Speaker 1: They're always bringing in new faces. Look how they destroyed
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  Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. That was such a great show,
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  Speaker 1: and then they kicked off Tom bergeron.
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  Speaker 3: I think Tyra Banks they brought in.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted a personal color, they wanted a woman, they
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  Speaker 1: wanted someone younger. These shows ain't broke when bosses start meddling.
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  Speaker 1: And we've seen this in our careers that everybody else
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  Speaker 1: is our friends. When bosses start meddling, it never turns
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  Speaker 1: out well. My rule is, if it ain't broken, don't
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  Speaker 1: fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, rap shooter, Hey, get his book. You'll love his book,
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  Speaker 2: his new novel. It started with a whisper and you
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  Speaker 2: can follow him on a substack naughty but nice as
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  Speaker 2: his substack. What's the deal with Travis kelcey Now that
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  Speaker 2: they're married, they're together, still married? Right there?
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  Speaker 1: He's back at work, so training has begun, so he
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  Speaker 1: thought already back. She's laying low. What Taylor's success has
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  Speaker 1: been over the last ten to fifteen years. Is she
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  Speaker 1: knows when she's overexposed, and she disappears. When celebrities pretend
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  Speaker 1: that they can't disappear, it's a lie. They can. I've
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  Speaker 1: worked with them for a long time. They get attention
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  Speaker 1: when they want attention. Jennifer Anderson, she can disappear in
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  Speaker 1: LA when she don't want us to see it.
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  Speaker 3: We don't see it.
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  Speaker 1: Julia Roberts disappears, Sandra Bullard disappears. Taylor is feeling the
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  Speaker 1: backlash from that wedding, that massive, ridiculous, kind of vulgar,
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  Speaker 1: over the top wedding at Madison Square Garden. It was
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  Speaker 1: not perceived the way that they wanted it to be perceived.
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  Speaker 1: My sources are telling me they were stung by some
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  Speaker 1: of the criticism. People are struggling, and they shout shut
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  Speaker 1: down New York on the fourth of July weekend on
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  Speaker 1: a major transit and there were above a major transit hub.
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  Speaker 1: Everything about that wedding was odd, including the thousand people.
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  Speaker 3: There're many of which they did not know.
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  Speaker 1: They're not close with Robin Roberts or George Stephanopolis know.
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  Speaker 3: Him, are you?
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  Speaker 4: And so I think that.
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  Speaker 1: Backlash that has stung them a little bit. He's back
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  Speaker 1: at work, but they're both deliberately keeping a low profile.
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  Speaker 1: When you've got her money and you've got private planes,
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  Speaker 1: you can disappear. So at the moment she has done that,
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  Speaker 1: they have disappeared. I don't think we'll see her for
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  Speaker 1: quite a while, and I think, to be honest, it's
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  Speaker 1: probably a good thing. I think everyone's sick of Taylor
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  Speaker 1: Swift at the minute. She needs to lay low, and
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: So people didn't like the wedding so much. You think
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  Speaker 2: for a wedding, the perfect venue for a wedding is
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  Speaker 2: not a basketball stadium. You think you wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very funny question.
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  Speaker 4: I would think already.
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  Speaker 1: It is about love and commitment, not Steven Spielberg sitting
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  Speaker 1: there on the front row looking, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get a job.
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  Speaker 3: Like I just think it's so weird. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I love the guards and I've seen Billy Joel there.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen concerts there, We've seen great sports and events
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  Speaker 1: that you ain't the first place that comes to mind
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  Speaker 1: when you think about it into the robotic It was rididulous.
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  Speaker 1: Everything about it was odd and I think that it
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  Speaker 1: was a misstep for Taylor. She hasn't made many her
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  Speaker 1: fans love her, but you know, she's always painted herself
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  Speaker 1: as the underdog, as a person that's on our side,
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  Speaker 1: and I think she looked totally out of touch and
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  Speaker 1: got stones like. It was a bad look all the
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  Speaker 1: way around, and Adam Sandler being the officians here, who
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  Speaker 1: are you like?
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  Speaker 3: Everything about it was stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, But the word was the reason she had all
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  Speaker 2: these celebrities there and him doing the ceremony is that
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing has been a videotaped for a Netflix special.
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  Speaker 2: Do we know if that's happening.
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  Speaker 3: We do know that it's been taped.
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  Speaker 1: I know a couple of the camera men who were there,
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  Speaker 1: and they're not videographers for weddings. This is not your
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  Speaker 1: cousin Vinny with the camcorder. They're a professional, professional people.
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  Speaker 4: Who work on morning shows, on evening shows.
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  Speaker 1: These were some of the best photographers, some of the
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  Speaker 1: best camera people working today.
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  Speaker 3: So it has been videoed. The other thing about that wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a lot of people felt as if it
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  Speaker 1: was a branding experience rather than a wedding, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it felt as if she was trying to
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  Speaker 1: get him work. We know he's probably going to leave
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  Speaker 1: the NFL after this season. It might be his last season.
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  Speaker 1: He desperately wants to get involved in entertainment. And so
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people at that wedding. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: invited so that Travis could shmooter.
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  Speaker 3: Them a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's how Hollywood works, Like, don't hate the game. That
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  Speaker 1: is the game, and they play it really really hard,
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  Speaker 1: getting connections, getting your foot in that door. And now
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  Speaker 1: he is mister Taylor Swift. Everybody's going to take his call.
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  Speaker 2: It started with a whisper Rob Shooter. Thanks for being
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  Speaker 4: Great to see you.
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