Latest / The Family Teams Podcast / Ep. 306 | Stage 1 of Parenting: The Comforter
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- 0:00Me and Alyssa joke that the exiting ritual of this stage is when the baby basically starts to drop the sippy cup off of the table on purpose and look at you. Totally.
- 0:13What's up guys, welcome to 5 Minute Fatherhood. So we're gonna do something we haven't done before, which is to do an actual series. So we're gonna do six episodes where Jeff and I are gonna walk through six different stages of parenting. And in our homeroom and our online community right now, we do different themes every month. And this month's theme is called The Skill of Stage-Based Parenting.
- 0:36And this has really been a huge deal for our parenting, for our family over the years, because oftentimes, you know, you get a hold of a book or some overarching parenting philosophy, and it sort of claims to be like the one way to think about parenting that will revolutionize your family. And what we've discovered is that, well, it usually does revolutionize your family in a good way, but for a particular stage, right?
- 1:00And so I've learned to like slot a lot of these, what are often pitched as sort of total parenting philosophies into particular stages. But parenting is really complicated. I mean, it changes depending on what's going on. And so what we are encouraging folks to do in Homeroom is to adapt your parenting style, at least try, because I know that's easier said than done a lot of times, to the season of...
- 1:23that your family's in and to the season your kids are in. So we're going to talk about all six of these stages. They all start with the letter C. And the first one we call the stage comforter or the kind of comforting stage. It starts with really pregnancy or even pre-pregnancy to your children are about 18 months to two years old. And what this stage is a lot about is attachment.
- 1:46what you really want to accomplish during this stage is bonding with your baby. And especially when talking to fathers, I oftentimes emphasize that this is a time where a lot of sort of modern Western dads sort of check out a little bit and they aren't as engaged. And a lot of times they're like, you know, the sort of proverbial thing they'll say is,
- 2:08You know, when they get a little bit older, a little more interesting, when they can kick a ball back or something like that, I'll be more interested, you know. But until then, they just kind of poop and, you know, cry and sleep. And, you know, what am I supposed to do with that? And so we talk a lot to dads about what's happening in this stage is you are changing. You are accepting things.
- 2:32your identity as a father, and you are deeply bonding with that baby. And that's a really big deal. It's really big that you resist the urge to sort of separate yourself or become kind of independent. And this happens a lot of days. A lot of times we subtly and don't even realize we're kind of rejecting...
- 2:52our infant, because we're rejecting the identity of fatherhood. It feels really weird to us. We feel like, I like being a friend. I like being a worker. I like other identities that I have in my life. This is a new one. It feels a little weird. It feels kind of heavy. It feels like maybe more of the mom's thing. And so all those messages sort of add up to kind of like, just kind of pulling back. And as opposed to the exact opposite of that, which is to lean in,
- 3:19to attach to that infant, to really feel like your life, your heart, all those things are opening your heart, opening your life. And that really is created by spending time with your infant during the stage. But yeah, Jeff, you've been through this a few times now. I
- 3:36Yeah, we're in the thick of this stage right now. You know, third time in a row, six years in a row, basically. But yeah, no, we love it. A couple of quick things I'll say. One, you can know when you're exiting this stage. Me and Alyssa joke that the exiting ritual of this stage is when the baby basically starts to drop the sippy cup off of the table on purpose and look at you. Totally.
- 3:57That's like the ritualistic rite of passage of like, and they're exiting the stage. Now, first, let me say, too, I think some parents overreact to something like that, and they think that's like defiance. That's not defiance, at least that we've seen. That's kids pushing and poking curiosity, but just entering into a new stage of like then learning, teaching, shaping, shepherding, et cetera. But I think some go...
- 4:17heavy handed on that one. And then some don't do anything. They just think it's cute. You know, it's like, no, that just shows that like, okay, now they're trying to test boundaries in a curious way, not a defiant, sinful way to just be like, Oh yeah, that's when you're going into that stage of like, now we need to shape our kid and teach our kid and train our kid. But zero to two,
- 4:32Just attach, attach, attach, attach, read attachment theory, read books like Hold On To Your Kids, even though the problem of that book is later. The research is very pertinent early. You know, the co-author of that book, I don't know. I never know how to pronounce his name. Gabe or Gabe Gabor Matei, whatever, something like that. He's got brilliant work on it. Podcast speeches that are just so good. And I would just say, you know, put down your phone those first two years. Like he even talks about that, like your eye contact.
- 4:58is so important with your kids at that stage. Well, what they see you kind of giving your affections to, your energy to, your eyes to, should be them, not a device. And that stuff actually does affect the later years, I think. And he shows that with his research. But so yeah, so lean into that. And especially like Jeremy said, with fathers, this is such a time to let your heart be captured by your kid, by your attachment to the kid, not just their attachment to you.
- 5:24the relationship, the marriage, just lean into that full on. I think that's what we've fumbled around with with kid one, which most people do, that I was just convinced of after that, you got to go all in on this. And it's actually very beautiful and amazing and helpful to do that. And actually is so enriching to my heart as a father and dad and even husband in the marriage. So that's what I would say to that. And I think that's certainly a stage that I think some people just kind of, like you said, just skip over. Right.
- 5:50or just think it's a little bit more biological, natural of just like, let's just do the needs and the feedings and all that and just get over with it. When it's like, no, lean into it. It's really powerful. Yeah. And we have like a four word description for the style of parenting for each of these. This one's low stress, high presence. One of the things you want to do is take the stress off of your wife during the season and let your infant feel your confidence, feel your strength, feel your presence. No, that's why we call this the comforter stage.
- 6:17You want kids to feel like they're safe. And the father has a huge impact on that feeling because when kids feel safe, they really mature in a very healthy way. If not, they go into survival mode and lots of things can happen to them due to that.
- 6:36really try your best. And this can be hard. You got a young family and you got a lot of responsibility and your wife could be really stressed out. But that's kind of the goal is to create that low stress, high presence environment. And that you'll see your family really thrive and your infant oftentimes really thrive if you can pull that off.
- 6:56Also, you guys keep in mind, if you want to have deeper conversations, especially about this stage, this comes up all the time in our five minute fatherhood Facebook group because we have so many new dads in there. They're like, all right, I'm pregnant. You know, like we got a new baby. What's next? Give me your best ideas. Those conversations pop up. Pretty much the intro post. Most people. Yes. So jump on there. Search five minute fatherhood on Facebook and join us.