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Women’s Liberation Enslaved Women · UK Column Radio

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  Rachel Wilson, thank you for joining me in the trenches
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  again. Well, thank you for having me
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  back. I'm so happy to be back.
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  It's been a minute. You and Andrew have been
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  fighting on Piers Morgan's show with feminists.
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  Yes, we got to go a few rounds with Clementine Ford, one of the
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  most notorious and annoying feminists anywhere in the world.
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  So that was that was pretty golden.
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  She was as rude and awful as I could have imagined her to be,
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  and I was able to fire right back.
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  So it was. It was actually a pretty fun
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  exchange I finally got to. She's like an avatar of
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  everything that's wrong with feminism and feminist mindsets,
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  you know? She insisted to me that my
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  husband does not respect me and called him a loser.
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  So I was able to fire back and ask her who the hell she is, to
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  tell me if my husband respects me or not and call him names
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  straight to my face. They get this idea that because
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  I submit to him that like, I'm not going to give them any
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  trouble. Like I'm just going to sit
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  there, you know, quietly and take it.
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  And then they get to find out differently, which is always
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  very satisfying. So I was happy.
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  To do it. Tell me a bit more about that.
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  Actually that whole submission thing.
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  I mean, you can understand where the feminists are coming from.
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  They don't. They don't get it.
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  Yeah, I mean, they don't know that they've been subjected to
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  about 150 years and billions of dollars in propaganda telling
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  them that, you know, submission to a husband is tantamount to
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  slavery. And it means that you don't have
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  a brain of your own and that you can't leave the kitchen, you
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  can't read, you can't drive. You know, it's like all these
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  these crazy myths that are still persist so heavily, especially
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  if these women like Clementine have been like really immersed
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  in the feminist propaganda, like the the feminist literature, the
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  gender studies garbage, right. If you've been in that world a
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  long time, you're convinced that men are the evil oppressors and
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  that women are in this perpetual fight for liberation and that
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  your husband is the most dangerous person to you.
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  Having a husband, you know, is puts you at risk of being
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  abused. And so they hear something like
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  the word submission and that word triggers almost all women,
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  even even myself, You know, when I, I was younger, if I heard
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  that word, I probably would have had just a knee jerk reaction to
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  submit that I don't have now, now that I've realised that
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  there's kind of been the spell cast to, to programme us to
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  react that way. If you say submit to your
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  husband, women's instant knee jerk reaction is never, you
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  know, I'm not a slave. I've got a mind of my own.
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  No one's going to tell me what to do.
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  And it it kind of tells you just how much it has pitted men and
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  women against each other and made women believe that the men
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  that love them the most are simply there to put a boot on
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  their neck. It's crazy.
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  But what do you mean by submission then?
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  So submission is, is not like a I think people would associate
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  it with like, you have no will of your own.
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  You don't have a voice. Like these are all propaganda
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  buzzwords We've heard like women didn't have a voice, which is
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  not true. If you've ever read my book, I
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  go in detail over the history that women have always had a
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  voice. Just because they didn't
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  participate in politics in the same way that men did doesn't
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  mean that they didn't have a voice there.
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  So submission is just this idea that you and your husband are
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  the 2 are one flesh and that, you know, wherever there are two
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  consciousnesses, you can't have this perpetual wrestling for
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  dominance or there's just going to be never ending conflict.
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  So one consciousness has to submit to the other to some
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  degree, right? Doesn't mean your husband
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  doesn't love you or he's not going to take your well being
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  into account. It's actually the opposite.
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  It's actually this idea that what's best for him is what's
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  best for me because it's best for us.
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  So I'm not going to fight him on his leadership.
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  I'm not going to constantly be in a state of perpetual
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  revolution against his leadership.
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  I'm going to submit to his leadership.
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  Maybe even at times that in the back of my mind I have questions
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  or things like that. It's really the only way that
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  relationships can work. And that doesn't mean it's
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  slavery. It doesn't mean I don't have my
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  own brain. Germs talk to me plenty.
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  And I think he would tell you that I indeed do have my own
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  brain and my own thoughts about things.
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  So just the word. We've been conditioned to think
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  submission. Is this like slavery, you know?
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  And if you're a Christian, you're actually following a
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  biblical principle. Absolutely.
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  And by the way, men submit as well.
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  Men are supposed to submit to God and to the Church.
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  So it's not like we believe in Christianity that men can be
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  these awful tyrants and they can do whatever they want to.
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  You certainly if your husband and you are in the Church, like
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  Andrew and I are Orthodox, he has to submit to what our priest
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  and Bishop would say. So if, if he was doing something
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  abusive or, or something like that, you would definitely think
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  that our priest and Bishop would, you know, tell him he
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  can't do that. And then he would have to submit
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  to them or be, you know, punished, excommunicated,
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  something like that. No, of course, we've never had
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  to do that. This is the magic, right?
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  Is that when women try this submission thing, this crazy
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  Christian submission idea that I'm always talking about, you
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  find that it doesn't, it doesn't feel like work because there's
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  so much less conflict in the relationship.
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  There's just the woman gets to relax, right?
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  It's like this big weight off your shoulders that you don't
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  have to fight your husband on everything.
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  You don't have to battle him for for dominance and prove that you
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  can make the decisions too. And he trusts that you're going
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  to that he's got your well being in his hands and so he has to do
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  a good job. So men tend to like, rise to the
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  occasion when this happens and so it doesn't feel like a
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  struggle anymore and it doesn't feel difficult.
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  It feels like much more relaxed and the conflict just kind of
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  melts away. It's not like we never disagree
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  on anything, but it's certainly nothing like it was, you know,
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  the first few years of our relationship when I was still
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  really programmed with all the feminist stuff that I didn't
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  even realise I was doing, that I don't think most women realise
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  they're doing. I guess a standard feminist
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  response would be OK, but why must you, the woman, submit?
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  Well, there's a whole bunch of reasons.
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  So if you're not a Christian, you probably wouldn't care that
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  this is what God's design is for us.
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  This is what the Bible says we were.
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  Women were created for man. We are created to be a helpmeet
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  to man. Now that doesn't mean we're not
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  equal in the eyes of God or that, you know, we don't have
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  equal worth or value to God in his eyes.
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  Of course we do. But we don't live in this
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  egalitarian utopia that and we can talk about where that came
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  from, but this, this idea people have that everyone should be
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  equal and everyone should be the same is just not the actual
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  world God created. He created a very hierarchical
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  world where it's God, man, woman, child.
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  And then we have like the the earth is man's dominion.
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  It's our nature and the way we were created has a hierarchical,
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  hierarchical structure to it. So you can see this in our
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  biology, for example. It doesn't.
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  There's a reason there's never been a true matriarchal society.
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  There are some societies, like tribal societies that have had
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  some matrilineal elements to them where maybe you know, the,
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  the women have a role that's, you know, very honoured or maybe
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  the last name or something is passed through the woman.
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  But certainly Christian societies, we haven't ever had
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  that. And even in the world, through
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  the history of the world, there's never been a matriarchy.
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  And you might ask yourself why. And it's because ultimately any
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  notion of women's rights or women's autonomy, we don't have
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  the use of force at our disposal.
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  Men collectively will always be above women in that way.
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  So you can you could never have a situation where women
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  collectively overthrow the male power structure because we
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  simply can't use force to do that.
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  We rely on men to use force to enforce any notion of our
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  rights, to protect us, to provide for US.
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  Men are this protective circle around us, between US and nature
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  and the big bad world. And they've always been.
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  But since we have such that this cosy technological world that we
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  live in now, it gives women this illusion that that doesn't exist
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  anymore, that we don't need men, that we can do anything men can
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  do. And all that is it really truly
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  is just a technological illusion.
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  How do I know this? How can I prove it?
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  Because when the power goes out, nobody's a feminist anymore,
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  right? When there's when there's a
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  hurricane, the feminists aren't out there, you know, rescuing
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  people from the floodwaters and putting the power lines back up.
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  It's always men and it will always be men.
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  And it's part of our ontological being.
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  It's the way we're we were created.
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  And there's nothing you can do about that.
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  Now, as I said, that doesn't mean women are slaves.
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  It doesn't mean I'm advocating for the mistreatment of women.
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  It means that we should embrace the fact that men by nature are
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  very benevolent and they love us and they want to take care of us
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  and provide for us and protect us from the men who might be a
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  problem, Right. And what feminism has done is
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  it's separated women from the good men, from all the men in
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  their lives who do have this deep vested interest in their
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  well being, their fathers, their husbands.
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  And it tells them be aware of those guys, they're going to try
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  to tell you what to do. They're going to try to impose
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  their will on you and you need to be liberated.
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  So go live with your boyfriend, play the field, have a roster,
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  you know, stack up a huge body count and waste all of your
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  child bearing years in college. And then, you know, maybe think
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  about getting married when you're 3540.
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  Terrible idea. And in the book, I go over a lot
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  of statistics of how negatively this is affected, not just men,
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  but women primarily. Women are the primary
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  benefactors of patriarchy. It benefits us the most.
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  And when you try to destroy that, you end up with single
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  mothers, you end up with cohabitation, you end up with
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  women having the highest rates of alcoholism and drug use that
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  we've ever seen and, and much, much more.
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  But it's been, it's been terrible for women for their
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  well being, for their protection, and for their
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  provision to completely separate them from the men in their lives
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  who want to do those things for them.
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  Well, you've just created my Segway into your book.
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  So let's talk about your book, Occult Feminism.
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  It's one of the best books on feminism and the history of, I
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  suppose, feminism that I've read in a long time.
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  And it very, it very clearly shows that, Rachel, you can
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  think for yourself. Isn't that amazing?
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  That's incredible you didn't ask your husband for permission to
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  write this book. You know what though?
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  He did. He was one of the people who
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  encouraged me. There were two men who really
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  encouraged me to do it. Because if if the listeners
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  don't know, I have 5 kids. I skipped college.
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  I had my first baby at 20. Everybody told me it was going
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  to ruin my life. I was making the worst decision
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  ever. I was never going to recover.
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  I could never be anything and I could never do anything if I
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  went about life this way. But I'm 44 now, and the kids are
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  pretty much grown up. The oldest three are all grown
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  up and moved out adults. And then the younger 2 are in
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  their, you know, teens. And they're pretty independent
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  at this point. They're homeschooled, so they're
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  very competent. They don't need me all day
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  anymore. So a few years ago, I was kind
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  of like, I should probably start preparing for this next phase of
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  life where I'm going to have an empty nest and like, what am I
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  going to do then? And I have so many interests
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  that it was hard for me to kind of choose something to focus on.
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  And my husband was like, you know, you're so good at, like,
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  this feminism stuff and you know so much about the history of it.
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  He's like, you should really do something with that because you
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  just know all this crazy stuff that people just don't know.
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  And my friend Aaron Cleary, who's a a really great author
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  who has multiple books out there, he was like, maybe try a
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  book, you know, give it a shot. You're pretty smart.
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  You should probably do it. I don't hear anybody who talks
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  about this the way that you do, so you should try that.
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  So it was two guys who kind of encouraged me and pushed me a
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  little bit to try to try to do that, which is so funny when you
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  think that they want me chained to the stove.
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  I mean, yeah, they sound completely sexist, right?
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  And yeah. Exactly so.
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  Let's talk about your book. Let's talk about your book.
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  All right, so take me through it.
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  So, well, when I started writing the book and I started the
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  research phase, which lasted about 2 1/2 years, I knew that I
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  was going to make claims in this book that we're going to
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  completely go against the current narrative.
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  And whenever you do that, you'd better have your research in
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  order and you'd better have your facts straight because people
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  are going to really tear into it and see if they can dismantle
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  it, catch you in a mistake, anything like that.
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  So I knew I had to do to really nail the research.
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  So I took 2 1/2 years to do this and I went through all of the
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  primary sources, like feminists writings themselves.
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  I read stuff like Mary Wolston crafts, you know, and all of her
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  written work that I could find. Susan B Anthony, Elizabeth Cady
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  Stanton, and then a lot of the other more obscure figures in
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  early feminist history because I wanted to know from their
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  worldview at that time. We're talking the late 1700s all
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  the way through the 19th century.
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  Like in their world, in their mind, what were they thinking?
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  Where were they coming from? What were their foundational
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  beliefs that led them to, you know, become feminists and and
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  do this writing? So I went through and read all
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  of that. And what was shocking to me, I
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  thought it was going to be, I thought the book would be about
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  like the funding of feminism and who kind of pushed it and
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  propagated it. And I definitely go over all of
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  that. There's a lot there, but as I'm
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  reading and I'm doing profiles of these early feminists, I find
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  this common thread that almost all of them were either very
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  outwardly opposed to Christianity.
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  Like Matilda Joslin Gauge wrote a book called Woman, Church and
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  State which was basically about how Christianity is the problem
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  and is the patriarchy and we need to get rid of that and then
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  eventually get rid of the rid of the state.
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  She was kind of this proto anarchist.
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  I'd say that's what I would class her as.
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  Maybe other people wouldn't, But she felt that the church in the
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  state were what oppressed women, and she thought Christianity was
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  the problem and needed to be done away with.
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  And I thought that's interesting, you know, And then
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  Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who was supposed to be a Christian, like
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  if you read her Wikipedia, it would say that she was a
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  Christian. But in her own book, she wrote a
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  book called The Woman's Bible with a couple dozen other
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  feminists, where they gave an entire commentary on the whole
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  Bible from the feminist perspective.
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  And they're writing this in 1895.
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  OK, this isn't 1969 or 2025. This is 1895.
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  And in the foreword she says herself, and she doesn't really
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  believe what's in the Bible at all.
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  She doesn't believe God ever came down and incarnated or
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  spoke to man. She doesn't believe that the
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  Bible was truly divine. She thinks the Bible was written
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  by oppressive men for the purpose of keeping woman in her
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  place and oppressing her. And so this whole project, she
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  said, if I could erase, you know, the Bible and Canon law
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  from the face of the earth, I would.
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  But it's too influential. Everyone's got a Bible in their
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  home. It's it.
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  People believe it. So instead, we're just going to
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  subvert it. We're going to twist the meaning
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  and change the meaning to make it more feminist.
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  And, you know, those two things were a big impact on me.
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  And then I started noticing this other thread of a lot of them
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  being full, what do you call it? Theosophists.
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  So theosophy and spiritualism was huge in the 19th century.
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  They were spirit mediums. They were tarot card readers.
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  A lot of them claimed to be automatic writers.
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  So a lot of the early feminist literature, the writers said it
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  what? This isn't coming from me.
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  I'm channelling a spirit which is giving me this information.
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  And a lot of historians will say, oh, they were just saying
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  that because they didn't want to kind of get in trouble for their
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  views. They didn't want to say it was
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  their own thoughts because there could be some backlash.
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  And that might be true. It probably is.
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  But I do think many of them really believed this.
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  A lot of them, you know, practised this stuff as as a way
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  of life and it really formed their worldview.
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  And so multiple aspects of like a cult religion, proto New Age
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  religion was involved in this. And so I found this great book.
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  It's a PhD thesis that I reference in my own book a lot
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  by Parafaxnell. He's a Scandinavian professor.
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  It was his PhD thesis that's now on Amazon.
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  So you can buy this yourself and read it now.
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  From his perspective, he's a Satanist, so he thinks this is a
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  good thing. He and I have come to a lot of
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  the same conclusions, even though I'm a Christian and I
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  think that's bad and he's a Satanist and thinks it's good.
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  But we both agree that in the 19th century, Lucifer was the
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  symbol of women's liberation. They claimed Lucifer as their
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  symbol. A lot of these early
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  suffragists, they had either a, you could say it was a Gnostic
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  view, you could say it was an occultic view, or you could say
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  it was a straight up Satanic view that the God of the Bible
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  is actually the bad guy and that Lucifer was the one trying to
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  enlighten and liberate woman from, you know, the evil
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  oppression of man. And I thought to myself, why do
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  we never hear this? You know why in gender studies
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  classes and women's studies classes are we never told this?
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  How come when we're going over the basics of suffrage and in
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  high school history class, even nobody mentions that these
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  suffragettes, you know, who are always portrayed as heroes?
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  They're they're across the board portrayed as brave, courageous
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  heroes who did something good. Even by most people who don't
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  like feminism, they'll say, well, it's gone way too far.
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  But first wave was good, right? First wave was fine.
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  Women's voting rights, women's property rights, at least in the
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  West. And they don't know that these
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  women were deeply opposed to Christianity and had either a
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  true occult practise that informed their world view or at
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  least a symbolic one that informed their world view.
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  And looking into that further, what I found is that a lot of
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  the history of first wave has literally been whitewashed.
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  And they took out large portions.
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  There's a paper by a professor named Josie Miller who studied
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  college history textbooks that went over suffrage, first wave
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  feminism. And he found that from 1920 on,
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  as the decades progressed, a lot of stuff was actually taken out
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  and removed. So they removed things like the
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  fact that there was much higher membership in anti suffrage
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  groups among women than pro suffrage groups.
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  It was so bad and and women were so unsupportive of the suffrage
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  movement, especially towards the beginning, that when they did
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  let them vote in like a referendum on whether they even
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  wanted the vote on the ballot, the few women that came out to
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  vote voted against it. It was only like 4% in in the
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  largest referendum I found, which was in Massachusetts, only
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  4% of the women who came out to vote voted for the 19th
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  amendment, that they even wanted it on the ballot.
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  It was so bad. That the Women's Suffrage
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  Association stopped any further referendums.
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  They said women can't vote on this because they're just, you
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  know, they're too comfortable. Susan B Anthony said this.
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  She said women already have pretty much everything they
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  want. They can work outside the home
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  if they want. They can go to college if they
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  want. They have higher literacy rates
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  and high school graduation rates than men.
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  And they enjoy all this provision and protection under
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  patriarchy that they don't want to give up.
• 20:45
  So we can't ask them if they want the vote.
• 20:48
  We have to just push it on them because they just they don't
• 20:52
  know what's good for them, which is so ironic.
• 20:56
  Yes. So women didn't want to vote,
• 20:59
  which would mean therefore Rachel, that the husband voted
• 21:03
  on behalf of them. Yes, yes.
• 21:06
  And that's, that's the system they wanted to keep.
• 21:09
  And if you go back, you can find anti suffrage documents and read
• 21:13
  what they wrote. There was a lot of public debate
• 21:15
  between the groups, between the anti suffrage groups and the pro
• 21:18
  suffrage groups. And they would publish these
• 21:20
  things in pamphlets and newsletters and newspapers and
• 21:24
  they had, you know, posters and stuff they would circulate on
• 21:27
  this. You can go back and read their
• 21:28
  their reasoning. And I include a lot of this in
• 21:30
  the book as well. I think they had fantastic
• 21:33
  reasons. It's almost like they could see
• 21:34
  what was coming. They knew where this was going
• 21:36
  to go. And they said, look, why would
• 21:39
  we want a husband and wife to be able to vote against each other?
• 21:43
  You know, they're they're going to naturally have different
• 21:46
  interests. You know, women are going to be
• 21:48
  more focused on protection. They're going to want like, you
• 21:51
  know, things like welfare, maybe a nanny state.
• 21:54
  They're going to want less risk and more safety and security,
• 21:59
  and they're going to want to vote that way.
• 22:00
  And men are going to want to vote to have more freedom and
• 22:03
  more liberty, to pursue greatness and to take risks and
• 22:07
  chances and provide for their family.
• 22:09
  They're probably going to want less taxation, things like that.
• 22:11
  And they're not going to want, you know, the same things.
• 22:14
  So why do we want to pit households against each other?
• 22:17
  We're going to see marriage start breaking down.
• 22:19
  We're going to see family start breaking down if we do this.
• 22:22
  That was one reason. Another great reason they had
• 22:25
  was they said, what if we end up being drafted?
• 22:27
  What if they include women in the draught?
• 22:29
  If we're now political equals with men, we might have to do
• 22:33
  jury duty and hear the details of grisly, awful crimes that we
• 22:36
  don't want to be subjected to. And we'll I'll have to leave my
• 22:40
  house for two weeks to go do jury duty.
• 22:42
  And who's going to take care of my children if I do that?
• 22:45
  And now we do see a lot of some feminists in Congress in the
• 22:49
  United States have tried to get bills passed to draught women.
• 22:53
  They're actually floating the idea of having a selective
• 22:56
  service for women. And I think there's other
• 22:58
  countries as well there are doing, they're doing this now.
• 23:01
  And the, the anti suffragists were very opposed to that.
• 23:06
  They also thought that it was going to mean less children.
• 23:10
  Women are going to have. If you take women out of the
• 23:12
  home and you make them politically active, you know,
• 23:14
  they're not going to have as much time for raising kids if
• 23:17
  they're out, you know, doing political activism.
• 23:20
  Which is funny because if you ever go back and watch the movie
• 23:23
  Mary Poppins, the Disney movie with Julie Andrews at the
• 23:27
  beginning, it opens with the the Jane and Michael's mother is
• 23:31
  this big suffragist and she needs a nanny for the children
• 23:35
  because what's she doing? She's always out marching with
• 23:38
  the suffragettes. She's out doing political
• 23:40
  activism and her husband's a banker.
• 23:43
  And so they have to hire a nanny, you know, to take care of
• 23:45
  the kids. And the the moral of the story
• 23:48
  is the parents weren't paying enough attention to the kids.
• 23:50
  It's so funny. So they could see like a future
• 23:54
  where families are going to be broken down and women are going
• 23:58
  to be too busy with these kind of things to really devote time
• 24:02
  and effort to the family. And that that would be bad, that
• 24:05
  this is going to be a bad thing. And they had many other reasons
• 24:08
  as well. They thought that if they lost
• 24:11
  their neutrality, their political high ground, they
• 24:14
  would no longer actually be consulted.
• 24:16
  They would just be another voting bloc and that they would
• 24:18
  just be targeted by, you know, which they are.
• 24:22
  Women are very highly targeted by like NGOs and super PACs, and
• 24:26
  we're very easily subjected to propaganda.
• 24:29
  So now, I mean, I don't know how it is in your part of the world,
• 24:32
  but here, every time we have an election cycle, all of the ads
• 24:36
  are very much targeted at emotional appeal.
• 24:40
  It's not like if you go back and look at political ads from the
• 24:43
  1800s and you see like them debating the issues here.
• 24:48
  Now when we debate the issues, it's just an emotional appeal.
• 24:51
  It's always, you know, scaremongering that the other
• 24:54
  side's going to take away your welfare or the other side's
• 24:56
  going to, you know, deport illegals, Yeah, or you're going
• 25:00
  to lose your right to abortion. And this is what it's ended up.
• 25:03
  They they were right. The anti suffragists were right
• 25:05
  because the only issues that feminists care about generally
• 25:10
  abortion's the number one. That's all the it's their main
• 25:14
  issue. There's a tonne of feminists
• 25:16
  that are 1 issue voters. They only care about the right
• 25:19
  to abortion. It's their only measurement for
• 25:21
  whether women are liberated or not is if they have the right to
• 25:25
  to kill children. Rachel, just sorry on that, just
• 25:29
  for a moment. I used to be pro abortion and
• 25:35
  and and God bless COVID because that whole era changed me and
• 25:40
  changed a lot of people in the way we see the world and the way
• 25:43
  we think. If you just take a moment to
• 25:48
  think about it, right, you have been given the right, the you've
• 25:53
  been given what liberation you have the freedom to kill your
• 25:57
  child. Just let that sink in for a
• 26:01
  moment. What is it that that you
• 26:04
  actually doing? It's disgusting.
• 26:07
  Oh yeah. That's why in the book I take a
• 26:09
  whole chat, a whole chapter to talk about Margaret Sanger and
• 26:13
  Planned Parenthood and the founding of that and all the
• 26:16
  lies it was built on. I mean, lies, lies, lies.
• 26:20
  It's crazy what they got away with the, the myths that persist
• 26:24
  to this day about things like back alley abortions, about
• 26:28
  overpopulation, about, you know, women just dying in childbirth
• 26:32
  because they were having too many, right?
• 26:35
  This idea that if you have more than one or two babies, it's
• 26:37
  going to destroy your body and wreck your health and you're
• 26:40
  going to die young. The the amount of lies that the
• 26:44
  abortion rights movement was built on would boggle your mind.
• 26:48
  I was, it was so upsetting to me to write that chapter that I
• 26:52
  actually had nightmares because I was just so filled with anger
• 26:56
  because so many women and men are completely psyopped into
• 27:01
  believing that unless women can can get abortions, they are
• 27:06
  oppressed. And it's just so pervasive, the
• 27:09
  amount of money and the amount of propaganda.
• 27:11
  And it's not just here in the US with Planned Parenthood, the
• 27:14
  Marie Stopes International in the UK, same thing, possibly
• 27:17
  worse. I've been meaning to get around
• 27:19
  to writing a Substack article about that because it's the same
• 27:24
  kind of story. Like, you know, rich, wealthy,
• 27:27
  progressive industrialists who wanted, you know, women in
• 27:30
  factories and not at home with kids are, you know, providing
• 27:34
  all the funding and all the money.
• 27:35
  And there's all kinds of crazy, funny business going on behind
• 27:38
  the scenes to convince people that children are oppressive,
• 27:43
  that having families is bad for you, that you're going to be
• 27:46
  poor, you're never going to have anything.
• 27:48
  Just the fear mongering. And I see it now when I go on
• 27:51
  panels and I talk to these girls that are 2025 years old.
• 27:54
  They're convinced that having a child will ruin their life, ruin
• 27:58
  their body, ruin their prospects, that they'll be a
• 28:01
  loser. And I was told this, by the way,
• 28:03
  when I was 20 and having my first baby, which is what your
• 28:06
  body is supposed to do when you're 20.
• 28:08
  When you're 20 years old is the best time to have children.
• 28:11
  You're going to have the lowest rates of complications.
• 28:13
  You bounce back much faster. Ask any woman that's had a baby
• 28:16
  at 20 and then a baby at 35, which was easier, right?
• 28:21
  We are made to be having families when we're young and
• 28:24
  there's a lot of life after that, you know, after 40 for us
• 28:29
  to do all kinds of other things if we want to at that point.
• 28:32
  Or maybe you'd be like me and just hope for huge amount of
• 28:35
  grandkids and to be busy with that.
• 28:37
  But until I get the grandkids, I'm just going to try to break
• 28:40
  this spell for as many people as possible because women just
• 28:44
  believe that children and motherhood are this evil,
• 28:47
  oppressive ball and chain that they have to escape from.
• 28:50
  And you can see that when you look at quotes from Sanger, who
• 28:53
  said women woman will never be free until she can decide if and
• 28:58
  when she'll become a mother at all.
• 29:01
  But there's the tug of war, right?
• 29:03
  It's it's having kids and then not being able to have a career.
• 29:07
  Right. Yeah.
• 29:09
  And I just would like to ask the women listening if they're
• 29:12
  listening to this and they're feeling confused and upset and
• 29:14
  like, why is this woman saying this?
• 29:16
  Why does she hate herself? Why does she hate women?
• 29:19
  Ask yourself, who gave you this idea that having a job in a
• 29:24
  cubicle somewhere is the best thing you could do with your
• 29:27
  life? That going to college and
• 29:29
  getting into an average of like $60,000 in debt to earn a degree
• 29:33
  in psychology and then go and, you know, listen to people's
• 29:38
  problems all day in a field where the replication crisis
• 29:42
  kind of proves that it's practically not worth doing.
• 29:45
  I mean, the psychology, I think 80% of the field is now filled
• 29:50
  with women and women are just doing the same things they've
• 29:54
  always done. If you look at the top 20
• 29:56
  careers held by women now and held by women in 1920 at the
• 30:01
  passage of the 19th amendment, they're almost exactly the same.
• 30:04
  The only category that really changed is they don't do much
• 30:08
  farm labour anymore. They're doing HR work instead.
• 30:11
  So what? What do women do for careers?
• 30:13
  Just despite 40 years of trying to force women into STEM fields,
• 30:17
  trying to force them to do male oriented jobs, trying to make
• 30:22
  them be CEOs. Like think of all the propaganda
• 30:25
  of the 80s, nineties and early 2000s from Oprah, from Sex in
• 30:29
  the City, convincing women that they need to be the CEO.
• 30:32
  They got to own a business. They got to close the big the
• 30:35
  business meeting, you know, they got to close the business deal.
• 30:38
  You want to be in the cubicle, you want to pay the taxes,
• 30:42
  right? You want to get up and do the
• 30:44
  9:00 to 5:00 for your whole life and then just, you know, die
• 30:47
  shortly after you retire and they'll replace you with someone
• 30:49
  else. It's awesome, It's empowering.
• 30:51
  Like, why do we think that having a middle management
• 30:55
  retail job, which that's what most of us are going to get, OK,
• 30:59
  most of us are not going to be head of Google.
• 31:03
  Most of us are not going to be a powerful attorney or a senator.
• 31:06
  What most women do is retail work, child care, early
• 31:11
  childhood education, nursing, bookkeeping, their waitresses,
• 31:15
  their cooks. They are doing all the same
• 31:19
  things they would have done in the home for their family for
• 31:23
  free. But instead they are paying to
• 31:26
  have a have a separate wardrobe, have a second car, have
• 31:30
  insurance on that car, leave for work everyday.
• 31:33
  The average American family spends over 25% of their income
• 31:36
  on daycare. We're paying now and then we pay
• 31:41
  you know how much of what you make in income tax as well.
• 31:45
  So you're actually paying the state and paying daycare so that
• 31:50
  you can have the privilege of having a cubicle job because
• 31:54
  that's going to be what makes you meaningful and fulfilled and
• 31:58
  and happy. Not OK.
• 32:01
  Here's the contrast, right? What my life looked like.
• 32:04
  You have a bunch of kids, you get up.
• 32:06
  When they get up, everybody has breakfast and the rest of the
• 32:11
  day I get to decide what my schedule is.
• 32:14
  I get to decide what I want to do with them, what we want to
• 32:17
  focus on in home school, what I want to teach them.
• 32:20
  I can look at each child and say, oh, this one has different
• 32:23
  needs than the other one. You know, he's doing great in
• 32:25
  math and she's struggling, but she's doing great in English and
• 32:28
  he's struggling. Let's put them together and have
• 32:30
  them help each other out. Let's have fun here.
• 32:33
  Let's go to the park. Let's get outside and exercise.
• 32:36
  Let's cook our own food at home and have healthy food rather
• 32:39
  than the processed garbage that kids are given all day at
• 32:42
  daycare and public school. My days belong to me.
• 32:46
  I am the empowered one. Now, if I and I have worked, of
• 32:50
  course that's chunks of my life where I have worked a full time
• 32:53
  job. My days didn't belong to me.
• 32:55
  I wasn't empowered. I just had to go and submit to
• 32:58
  my boss instead. And my boss's boss, right?
• 33:01
  And then I had to pay the government and pay a daycare for
• 33:04
  the privilege of going somewhere and being told what to do all
• 33:08
  day. But I'm supposed to believe that
• 33:10
  by being a stay at home mother, I'm oppressed, that that I have
• 33:15
  no freedom, that I can't do anything with my life.
• 33:19
  It's, it's so inverted and it's so backward.
• 33:22
  It's just another sign that this is a very Luciferian satanic
• 33:26
  agenda, because it's telling you not to believe your own eyes and
• 33:30
  your own experience. To add to what you're saying, if
• 33:36
  both parents are working, the kids either go go somewhere else
• 33:43
  or they come home to an empty house.
• 33:46
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. And what I always say to people
• 33:50
  is I don't think there's any coincidence that the passage of
• 33:54
  the 19th Amendment, by the way, this happened around the world,
• 33:57
  the Western world at the same time, and actually in the East
• 33:59
  as well. I've got a second book coming
• 34:01
  out about like Russia and the Eastern Bloc.
• 34:03
  I'm hoping to get it finished this year, but here in the West,
• 34:08
  women's suffrage all came about kind of around the same time.
• 34:11
  Australia, the UK, America, around 1920, we start to see the
• 34:17
  passage of women's suffrage. And in the United States, you
• 34:20
  have the creation of the central banking and you have the income
• 34:25
  tax, all passed right around the same time.
• 34:28
  And then there's another thing that passed around the same
• 34:30
  time, which was compulsory public education.
• 34:34
  So this was a giant project. And you don't have to believe
• 34:37
  me. Again, the source material is
• 34:38
  the people themselves writing and telling you that they did
• 34:41
  this and why they did this. You can go to the Rockefeller
• 34:44
  family archives and read about it.
• 34:46
  You can go to the Vanderbilt archives and read about it.
• 34:49
  What happened was we had this crop of new wealthy
• 34:53
  industrialists from, you know, the 19th century who built
• 34:56
  railroads and built a lot of the infrastructure in America,
• 34:59
  factories and became incredibly wealthy in a way that, you know,
• 35:03
  we really hadn't seen in the world before where it's not just
• 35:07
  a king or a politician who has this tremendous power.
• 35:09
  We now have billionaires who have endless money.
• 35:12
  And because they have endless money, they can buy politicians.
• 35:15
  They have their own banks. They can, they have tremendous
• 35:18
  power, arguably more power than a monarch would have, I would
• 35:21
  say. And what these guys wanted and
• 35:24
  needed, they couldn't get enough immigrants into America to work
• 35:27
  in factories and on railroads fast enough.
• 35:30
  And they saw women as this huge pool of very cheap, easy labour.
• 35:36
  They're already here. We don't have to pay them as
• 35:39
  much as men. And if we can get all these
• 35:41
  women out of the home and into the factory, we can also tax
• 35:45
  their income. So we double our income tax
• 35:48
  revenue overnight. And and if the mothers are not
• 35:52
  at home, the children have to go somewhere.
• 35:54
  So we'll create this public education system.
• 35:58
  There's a whole video on my YouTube about the founding of
• 36:01
  the American public school system and how it's based on the
• 36:05
  Prussian military model, which was meant to create good
• 36:08
  soldiers and good factory workers.
• 36:10
  That's why we have bells, you know, at the beginning, bell at
• 36:13
  the end, a bell to leave class, a bell to start class.
• 36:16
  It's actually a Pavlovian mechanism to train you to do
• 36:20
  what you're supposed to do, right?
• 36:22
  So it's public school was never about creating like these kids
• 36:25
  who could critically think about the world and solve problems and
• 36:29
  be innovators. It was literally created to make
• 36:33
  good little cogs in a wheel who are going to do what the state
• 36:35
  tells them to do and, you know, follow the narrative and follow
• 36:39
  the programming. That's what it's there for.
• 36:42
  So all day while mom and dad are at work making these people
• 36:45
  money and making the government all this new income revenue, the
• 36:48
  income tax revenue, the children are going to be educated by the
• 36:53
  state with the values of the state and whatever the state
• 36:56
  wants them to have and believe. And that's exactly what we did.
• 36:59
  Then in 1970, the Ford Foundation, with some help from
• 37:02
  Rockefeller and some others, created women's studies.
• 37:06
  And what happened in 1970 when they created Women's studies as
• 37:10
  a discipline in universities? They gave, you know, huge grants
• 37:13
  to multiple big universities to create a gender studies
• 37:15
  programme. We see this huge dissemination
• 37:18
  of propaganda telling women to go to work. 1970 was a huge year
• 37:24
  for this because not only the creation of gender studies, but
• 37:26
  also the founding of Miss magazine by Gloria Steinem and
• 37:30
  the CIA, it's ACIA funded magazine.
• 37:34
  It was part of a much broader propaganda programme.
• 37:36
  The CIA had to tell women, you know, that the home life was
• 37:41
  oppressive, that they need to have a career, that they need to
• 37:43
  have a college education. Otherwise you're not informed,
• 37:46
  you are ignorant, you will never do anything with your life and
• 37:50
  you are just a slave. And then we see this massive
• 37:53
  amount of propaganda come out. So in the 70s you had a tonne of
• 37:55
  movies and TV shows like Mary Tyler Moore Show, The Stepford
• 38:00
  Wives, all this propaganda convincing women that being a
• 38:04
  housewife, being a mother is this oppressive, boring, stuffy,
• 38:08
  awful thing. You could be out.
• 38:10
  You could be out having 5 boyfriends and doing cocaine.
• 38:13
  Why do you why do you want to be at home?
• 38:16
  You could be the fancy businesswoman and have an
• 38:18
  exciting life in the city where you're working, but you're in
• 38:21
  the suburbs and you're bored and it's unfulfilling.
• 38:26
  And it's really created this view you that women did not
• 38:29
  have. If you look at what women were
• 38:32
  saying 50 years before that, none of them felt this way.
• 38:35
  There was never this idea that the family life was a
• 38:38
  suppressive drudgery. It was this horrible, boring,
• 38:41
  awful thing that women were just forced to do because they
• 38:44
  weren't allowed to do anything else.
• 38:46
  I have an interview with my 99 year old grandmother on my
• 38:49
  channel asking her, you know, being born in 1926, growing up
• 38:53
  in the 30s and the 40s, what it was like for her and her
• 38:56
  friends. And I asked her, did you guys
• 38:58
  ever have this sense that you were oppressed or that, you
• 39:01
  know, you didn't have options? Did you feel like you were just
• 39:04
  going to be stuck at home bored and you've had to get married
• 39:06
  and have all these kids? And she thought it was crazy.
• 39:09
  She was like, we, no, she's like, we've never felt like
• 39:12
  that. We never did.
• 39:13
  That wasn't even a topic that ever came up among her and her
• 39:16
  sisters and her friends. So this was all a culture
• 39:20
  creation project to convince women of this.
• 39:23
  And all I'm trying to do with my work is break this spell and
• 39:26
  help women understand. Like, why do you think going to
• 39:29
  work 40 hours a week is liberation?
• 39:31
  Where did you get that idea? Because if you stop and think
• 39:34
  about it for five seconds, it's ridiculous.
• 39:37
  Of course, that's not freedom and liberation for you.
• 39:41
  And who benefits from that? Let me see if I can quickly
• 39:45
  summarise where where this conversation is at.
• 39:49
  OK, so men and women have obviously got certain roles that
• 39:55
  we just simply can't change. It's just it's just how it is,
• 39:58
  all right. And men drove this idea to bring
• 40:04
  women into the workforce to help the central bankers create more
• 40:12
  income tax and and effectively lower the wages of men.
• 40:17
  Which which then? Made it more difficult for a man
• 40:24
  to provide for the household because he was not earning less
• 40:28
  because now he was competing against a woman, which also is a
• 40:31
  bad idea because men should compete against men, not against
• 40:34
  men and women. All right, OK.
• 40:37
  Then on top of that, you've got all these organisations who
• 40:41
  think this is a great idea to break apart the family.
• 40:45
  And we have a situation today where we have a decline in birth
• 40:49
  rate. Yes, yes, you nailed it.
• 40:52
  So what? When we were talking about the
• 40:54
  70s, this is exactly what happened.
• 40:56
  Because this is my most common pushback that I get from people
• 41:00
  when they say, well, it's really nice that you got to stay home
• 41:03
  with your kids, but not every woman has this privilege.
• 41:06
  And with the first thing I would ask is OK, but wait a minute,
• 41:09
  you probably believe that your grandmother's and your great
• 41:12
  grandmother's bought this hard won fight for you to be able to
• 41:16
  be a career woman, that you didn't have that choice before.
• 41:19
  Which isn't really true by the way.
• 41:21
  Women have always been allowed to work.
• 41:22
  It's maybe they weren't as accepted in certain professions
• 41:26
  for very practical reasons, but they were never like across the
• 41:30
  board, barred from having a job everywhere.
• 41:33
  But you believe this, right? You believe that women had to
• 41:35
  fight for the right to be a career woman.
• 41:37
  But now you're also telling me that me being able to stay home
• 41:41
  like my great grandma did is a privilege that I'm only afforded
• 41:46
  because I must be wealthy or something, which is not true.
• 41:48
  Andrew and I were not wealthy when I was staying home with the
• 41:50
  kids at all. We had to sacrifice a lot.
• 41:52
  We had to change our lifestyle. We had to make a lot of
• 41:54
  accommodations to make it work. And I'm very, very aware of how
• 41:58
  tough it is for most women to stay home with their kids even
• 42:02
  when they want to. Number one, they're afraid to
• 42:04
  say they want to because if you even say that, you're probably
• 42:07
  going to get, you know, a bunch of wrinkled noses and people
• 42:10
  telling you that's silly and why would you want to do that?
• 42:12
  There's all kinds of reasons. It's bad, but they do want to
• 42:16
  stay. Frowned upon.
• 42:18
  Oh yeah, it's frowned upon. And then also people, it's
• 42:22
  practically difficult. It's very difficult and they
• 42:25
  say, well, most people can't afford to raise a family on one
• 42:28
  income. And I go, yes, I know, but have
• 42:30
  you ever asked yourself why and what they'll say as well as the
• 42:34
  economy is bad, right? The economy is bad, or maybe we
• 42:37
  need better wages, or this is no, here's what happened and you
• 42:40
  can go back and look at economic graphs and things that will
• 42:45
  completely highlight this for you.
• 42:46
  In 1970, with the creation of gender studies, Miss magazine
• 42:50
  and all this propaganda I was telling you about, we doubled
• 42:53
  the workforce in the West in about a decade, decade and a
• 42:58
  half, 10 to 15 years. We had like less than 6% of
• 43:02
  women with children under 5 in the workforce prior to this.
• 43:06
  After 1980, it becomes like 40%. By the 90s, it's almost half,
• 43:11
  right? Almost half the workforce is
• 43:12
  women now. We doubled the labour pool in
• 43:15
  such a short period of time and men's wages have never
• 43:18
  recovered. The buying power has never
• 43:21
  recovered. Now, are there other factors
• 43:24
  that you could probably point to because economics is very
• 43:26
  complicated, yes. But this is by far the biggest
• 43:29
  correlate. It's the biggest change.
• 43:31
  We've never had this happen in all of human history where we've
• 43:34
  taken the majority of women out of the home and plopped them
• 43:38
  into the labour force in such a short period of time.
• 43:40
  And it has my, my friend Erin Cleary I was talking about,
• 43:44
  about has a great book on this. It's called A World Without Men.
• 43:48
  And it's this female based economy we have now, which is
• 43:50
  like a consumerist economy. Women have like 80% of all the
• 43:56
  buying power now. We, we revolutionised our
• 43:59
  economy and our home life in such a short period of time.
• 44:04
  And when you add the fact that we had no fault, divorce and
• 44:08
  hormonal birth control come about right at the same time as
• 44:11
  well. We shouldn't be shocked that the
• 44:13
  family has dissolved that most children are in homes with no
• 44:17
  dads. And if you look at the risks for
• 44:19
  that, it's like it puts kids at risk for every possible negative
• 44:23
  outcome to not have their dad in the home, to have a broken home.
• 44:26
  And it's also not very good when you look at the stats about how
• 44:29
  children are abused in daycare, about family cohesion when both
• 44:33
  parents work outside the home. It's just destroyed everything
• 44:37
  and it has made it practically impossible to afford raising a
• 44:41
  family on one income. Whereas in the, you know, prior
• 44:44
  years to that men could have five to seven children and
• 44:48
  afford it on one income for all of history until 50 years ago.
• 44:53
  So you're never going to convince me because we, of
• 44:55
  course, we've had bad economic conditions.
• 44:57
  We've had all kinds of of things happen throughout all of human
• 45:00
  history, and it never produced this outcome of all the women
• 45:03
  having to work outside the home. The women all have to work
• 45:06
  outside the home because all the women went to work outside the
• 45:09
  home, if that makes sense. So we did it to ourselves.
• 45:13
  And to the extent that we can get more mothers to stay home
• 45:15
  and more women to stay home, it will increase men's wages.
• 45:19
  It will increase demand for men's jobs.
• 45:22
  But Rachel, it does appear to me that it's still ultimately the
• 45:27
  fault of men. I would say it's a handful of
• 45:32
  very powerful men who orchestrated this and
• 45:35
  perpetuated it on everyone. And I think that what happened
• 45:38
  is historically, only about 40% of men throughout all of history
• 45:44
  have been able to reproduce, while 80% of women throughout
• 45:48
  all of history have been able to reproduce.
• 45:50
  And this is according to like genetic studies.
• 45:53
  The reason for this is all you needed to do throughout all of
• 45:55
  time and history as a woman to have a baby is just be fertile.
• 45:59
  If you're fertile and you live long enough, someone's probably
• 46:02
  going to inseminate you and you're going to have a baby.
• 46:04
  If you're a man, though, it wasn't like that.
• 46:06
  Men have always had to like prove their worth, prove that
• 46:10
  they could support a wife and a family.
• 46:12
  They had to be chosen. Even if you were in a like a, a
• 46:16
  past history where there were dowries and things like that,
• 46:18
  the, the woman's father still had to approve and things like
• 46:21
  this. So not every man could just get
• 46:23
  a wife and have a kid. And a lot of men ended up just
• 46:26
  cannon fodder in a war or dying young in a very dangerous
• 46:29
  occupation or from disease or something like that.
• 46:32
  So I think when the sexual revolution came along, it took
• 46:36
  this large swath of kind of disenfranchised men and
• 46:39
  convinced them that if they went along with this women's
• 46:42
  liberation stuff, they could get access to sex.
• 46:45
  And you see this like in the 60s.
• 46:47
  Think of your boomer parents at Woodstock, you know, dropping
• 46:50
  LSD, rolling around in the mud and doing free love, this free
• 46:55
  love stuff, which this is not new.
• 46:56
  Free Love's been around for at least a couple 100 years, and
• 46:59
  it's always been a tenant of feminism, even going back to
• 47:02
  like the 1700s or before. I think men went along with it
• 47:07
  because they thought the free love stuff was going to work out
• 47:10
  for them and because women, I mean, when the voices of these
• 47:14
  feminists got loud enough, they made it seem like all women were
• 47:18
  demanding this when that wasn't the case.
• 47:21
  But they were. They.
• 47:22
  They put Gloria Steinem on TV, they gave her her own magazine.
• 47:25
  They gave Betty Friedan A bullhorn.
• 47:27
  You know, they put these these really loud feminists out there
• 47:31
  and saturated the, the new telecommunication system with
• 47:35
  it. And I think men thought that
• 47:38
  everyone wanted this. And I think they, they love
• 47:40
  women and they want to please women.
• 47:42
  So they thought, well, if it'll make you happy and if it'll give
• 47:44
  me sexual access, I'll go along with this.
• 47:46
  It's, you know, they're making it sound like a good deal.
• 47:49
  The feminists are telling me that, you know, if I just give
• 47:51
  my wife, you know, whatever she wants and I let her go to work
• 47:54
  and that this will work out for me.
• 47:56
  So I think men did allow it, but I think that they don't realise
• 48:01
  they were completely duped. I think they're starting to now
• 48:03
  for sure, for sure. We're starting to see men wake
• 48:06
  up and go, wait a minute, we've been had.
• 48:09
  This is a terrible idea. It was not a good deal for us
• 48:11
  and it's not a good deal for women or for kids either, right?
• 48:15
  But it does seem like it's a bit too late now.
• 48:21
  Yeah, I mean, that's the big question, is like, what do we do
• 48:23
  now? Because we've opened Pandora's
• 48:25
  box and you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
• 48:27
  However, I don't think that this is good news necessarily, but we
• 48:33
  are on the precipice of another revolution.
• 48:36
  I do think I've made this prediction before.
• 48:39
  We'll see what you think about it.
• 48:40
  But I think that in about 200 years or so, people are going to
• 48:43
  look back on the feminist experiment and they're going to
• 48:46
  say, wow, that was crazy and silly and awful.
• 48:49
  And I'm sure glad we got rid of that.
• 48:51
  And here's why. Because countries like South
• 48:54
  Korea are facing a birth rate crisis that is literally
• 48:58
  civilization ending. I think the average South Korean
• 49:02
  woman now has 0.7 children per woman.
• 49:06
  They're not even replacing themselves.
• 49:07
  They're not even coming close. And everywhere in the world,
• 49:12
  everywhere in the world except for a handful of African
• 49:14
  countries, is well below replacement and has been for
• 49:18
  decades. And we are, you know, here Elon
• 49:20
  Musk talking about this. I don't think he has the right
• 49:23
  reasons for talking about it, but at least he's talking about
• 49:26
  it. That that we are on the
• 49:29
  precipice of like a serious global birth rate crisis and
• 49:33
  people have been fed anti natalist overpopulation
• 49:36
  propaganda for 200 years now. So they're having a really hard
• 49:40
  time understanding it. Like, but we have billions of
• 49:42
  people in the world. We have too many people.
• 49:45
  It's actually not true. We've practically solved hunger
• 49:49
  and people don't think about this.
• 49:50
  Remember all the farm aid stuff in the 80s and all the
• 49:54
  everyone's starving. People are dying.
• 49:56
  It you don't hear it too much anymore because in most of the
• 49:59
  world, except for a few like really poverty, like third world
• 50:02
  nations where it's more of a logistics and corruption
• 50:06
  problem. It's not that we don't have a
• 50:08
  global food supply that can feed everyone.
• 50:10
  We do. And we do have like the
• 50:12
  logistical infrastructure to get food pretty much everywhere now.
• 50:16
  So the places that are still starving, it's, it's more of a,
• 50:19
  a geopolitical type of a problem than it is a practical problem.
• 50:23
  That's never been the case before in history.
• 50:25
  And it's because we have this massive global population that
• 50:28
  can support this. And so if you see that
• 50:30
  population contract really fast, you know, like I think China is
• 50:36
  expected to lose like 1/4 of its population over the next several
• 50:39
  decades. If you see the population
• 50:42
  contract that quickly, it will cause massive disruption to food
• 50:46
  production, to logistics, to getting the food where it needs
• 50:50
  to go, to being able to treat water, to the medical
• 50:53
  infrastructure. It's a very big problem.
• 50:56
  And the UN, even the corrupt UN has a tonne of stuff they're now
• 51:00
  putting out. They, they had all this anti
• 51:02
  natalist overpopulation propaganda up until about 10
• 51:07
  years ago. And in the last 10 years the UN
• 51:09
  has even switched and changed its tune and said, oops, wait a
• 51:12
  minute, we overdid it. Now we're going to have problems
• 51:15
  from population collapse and we need to address this.
• 51:18
  So you see countries like Japan and Canada offering free
• 51:21
  euthanasia for the older population because they know
• 51:25
  that in just a few years they won't be able to support the the
• 51:28
  ageing population because there's not enough young people
• 51:31
  to take care of them. So I mean, that's the situation
• 51:34
  we're facing. And in a situation like that,
• 51:37
  feminism will die out of necessity.
• 51:40
  It will die out of necessity. And on top of that, I think men
• 51:43
  are far starting to figure this out.
• 51:46
  That's why there's this huge popularity.
• 51:48
  Even if you don't like Andrew Tate, right?
• 51:50
  Even if you don't like what he says, there's a reason this red
• 51:53
  pill stuff is so popular. And it's because men are
• 51:56
  starting to figure out, wait, this is a really bad deal.
• 52:00
  We, we're not doing well. The women don't really seem to
• 52:03
  be doing that well either. 26% of American women are on at
• 52:07
  least one psych, psych, prescription medication,
• 52:11
  depression and mental illnesses like through the roof and women.
• 52:14
  So is addiction. We have two huge studies on
• 52:17
  women's happiness, the paradox of female happiness, and then a
• 52:20
  big follow up study that was done a few years ago showing
• 52:23
  that to the extent around the world, in every culture that you
• 52:26
  liberate women is the extent to which they get more miserable.
• 52:29
  And it doesn't seem to matter what country you're in, what
• 52:31
  religion you are, what your socioeconomic status is.
• 52:35
  The more we liberate women from, you know, motherhood and family
• 52:39
  and home life, they seem to do worse.
• 52:43
  They seem to be more stressed. They report higher levels of
• 52:45
  dissatisfaction and loneliness and addiction and mental
• 52:49
  illness. So I think people are waking up,
• 52:52
  I think they're realising that this was a terrible mistake and
• 52:56
  the only question for me is how bad is it going to get before
• 53:00
  things have to turn around and it could get really bad?
• 53:03
  I hope not. I hope that we catch it in time
• 53:06
  and start to reverse the trend. There's some hope that that
• 53:09
  could happen. I'm seeing glimmers of hope
• 53:11
  about it, but it may get really, really bad before it gets
• 53:15
  better. The suffragette movement.
• 53:19
  Women's Liberation. Rachel.
• 53:21
  What were women liberated from? Well, that's the big question,
• 53:26
  isn't it? And nobody asks that question.
• 53:29
  When you hear feminists talk about women's liberation, they
• 53:32
  they'll say the patriarchy. But it's like, OK, for a
• 53:35
  practical woman, what does that mean?
• 53:37
  It means her dad. It means her husband.
• 53:40
  It usually means like her pastor or priest at her church.
• 53:43
  It means don't let a man tell you what to do, and don't let
• 53:48
  yourself be held back in life by children, by childbearing, by
• 53:53
  all the obligations that you might have to your family and to
• 53:56
  those men who love you and care about you.
• 53:59
  You'd be better off alone and in a cubicle all day working for a
• 54:04
  boss. And let's let's just say you
• 54:06
  don't have a job you hate. A lot of women will tell you
• 54:08
  they like their job, and that may be the case.
• 54:11
  You might like your job, but how do you know that you wouldn't be
• 54:14
  happier at home with kids instead?
• 54:17
  And maybe maybe you say, well, I have both.
• 54:19
  I have my job and I have my kids and I like both and I like to
• 54:22
  have a work life balance. You may say that, but you cannot
• 54:28
  be everywhere at once, and you only have 24 hours in a day and
• 54:31
  there's only one of you. So if you are at work all day,
• 54:35
  someone else is with your kids for most of their waking hours,
• 54:39
  you will spend 95% of all the time you'll ever spend with your
• 54:43
  children. By the time they turn 18, it's
• 54:46
  gone and you can't get it back. Once they're adults, you see
• 54:50
  them when they can see you, and some more than others, But most
• 54:55
  of that time is gone and you can never get it back.
• 54:57
  And you don't know how things would have been different had
• 55:00
  you not been distracted by 40 hours plus a week of work, how
• 55:04
  you might have done things differently, or how you might
• 55:06
  have bonded with your children if they were spending all day
• 55:09
  with you, not with the daycare lady.
• 55:12
  So I think what we liberated women from is our greatest
• 55:15
  purpose. It's like only men can build
• 55:19
  infrastructure and use force to protect women.
• 55:23
  Only men can do that. And only women can bear and
• 55:27
  raise the next generation of human beings because the men are
• 55:30
  busy building the infrastructure and maintaining it and, you
• 55:33
  know, keeping things peaceful and keeping borders protected.
• 55:36
  These are things that no matter how much feminist propaganda you
• 55:39
  put out there, you cannot and you never will change them
• 55:43
  unless, unless you're one of these gender abolitionists that
• 55:45
  wants all of us to be a they them.
• 55:47
  And you want the men to be, you know, low T, you know, non
• 55:52
  binaries. You want the women to be
• 55:54
  hypermasculine lesbians or something, which there are
• 55:56
  feminists that want that for this reason, because they know
• 55:59
  that biology is the final like stopping block for them and that
• 56:03
  they can't change it. But I mean, that's
• 56:05
  transhumanism, ultimately. It is.
• 56:07
  It absolutely is. Yeah.
• 56:09
  And this is another point is that most of these early
• 56:12
  feminists we're talking about in the 1840s, Margaret Fuller, she
• 56:17
  was probably the first popular feminist writer in the United
• 56:20
  States. She was writing about gender
• 56:22
  abolition. She was writing about
• 56:23
  transhumanism and a future where technology would allow us to no
• 56:28
  longer be male and female. She wanted that world and she
• 56:31
  she was imagining that world in 1840, you guys.
• 56:35
  So this is these are old ideas and again, the underlying belief
• 56:39
  system. Like you asked yourself, why
• 56:41
  would she want something like that?
• 56:42
  Because they are transhumanist, because there's usually an
• 56:45
  occult religious foundation, like a type of Gnosticism where
• 56:50
  they believe that biology is oppressive and that ultimately
• 56:54
  what women need to be liberated from is biology.
• 56:56
  Alexander Colentai was another highly influential, a popular
• 57:01
  feminist writer in Russia. She was part of the Bolshevik
• 57:03
  regime, one of the most powerful women in the world at the time.
• 57:06
  She was writing the stuff. And she imagined a future just
• 57:10
  like this, where the final frontier was going to be
• 57:12
  overcoming nature and biology and that in a future technocracy
• 57:17
  we could make men women and women men.
• 57:18
  Or that we would all be these non binary beige people with no
• 57:23
  differences among us, right? That this was the and she
• 57:25
  thought it was the final goal of communism as well.
• 57:28
  And when they started gender studies programmes in the 70s,
• 57:32
  they fused the Western and the Eastern ideas of feminism.
• 57:36
  They fused the Marxist feminism with the liberal feminism and
• 57:40
  created this hybrid feminism that we have now which
• 57:43
  incorporates all these Marxist ideas.
• 57:45
  And what they wanted was to get rid of the patriarchy.
• 57:50
  Well, how do you do that? You get rid of patriarchs.
• 57:52
  So you get rid of the dads. You get rid of.
• 57:54
  You take the dads out of the home.
• 57:55
  You make the state the dad. And Colin Tie is a person who
• 58:00
  was writing this explicitly. It wasn't a secret agenda.
• 58:04
  It wasn't implied at all. She has papers you can go read
• 58:08
  on the Marxist archivemarxist.org where she's
• 58:11
  imagining a future where children do not know who their
• 58:15
  biological father is, where we will intentionally have, you
• 58:18
  know, no marriage. We won't have partnerships.
• 58:22
  We'll all have, you know, throuple or we will all have
• 58:25
  polycules. We will all have multiple lovers
• 58:28
  and nobody will know who the father of the child is because
• 58:31
  that's the only way to stop private property ownership,
• 58:35
  transfer of wealth from one generation to the next and
• 58:38
  eliminate fathers from the home. And she said Lennon should be
• 58:42
  your father. It shouldn't be, you know, your
• 58:45
  child's dad. He's just another worker.
• 58:47
  It should be Lennon who is your daddy.
• 58:49
  Like, literally. So this is what they wanted.
• 58:53
  And they've been really successful at sneaking this into
• 58:56
  universities and then through their getting it into the pop
• 58:58
  culture and making everybody believe this without even
• 59:01
  knowing it. And now we have a situation
• 59:05
  where girls are trying to sleep with 506 hundred 700 guys in six
• 59:12
  hours. Yes, exactly.
• 59:14
  Yeah. And we have a culture that
• 59:16
  believes that, you know, being a virgin when you get married is
• 59:21
  silly and stupid and passe, and it's unrealistic.
• 59:25
  You know, my own mother told me this when I was growing up.
• 59:28
  It's unrealistic to get married as a virgin now.
• 59:31
  I don't think that's true at all.
• 59:32
  But you know, I was raised in the 80s and 90s with a Marxist
• 59:36
  feminist mother who told me, you know, that that was fine and
• 59:40
  that you can just, you don't need marriage and you should
• 59:43
  have a career and all this sort of stuff.
• 59:45
  So it's kind of a miracle I ended up where I am, but it's I
• 59:48
  had to learn the hard way. So like I had to go through
• 59:51
  mistakes that made me think about all this stuff because I
• 59:53
  was just as programmed as everyone else.
• 59:55
  Every girl growing up now only knows what Taylor Swift and
• 59:59
  Beyoncé and Megyn Kelly. And like maybe not all the young
• 1:00:03
  girls listening to Megyn Kelly, but she's, you know, women like
• 1:00:05
  that are influential. They see the TPUSA boss babe.
• 1:00:08
  So even on the like Republican right in the United States or
• 1:00:12
  even on the Conservative right in the UK, the women are all
• 1:00:16
  politicians. They're career girls, they're
• 1:00:18
  boss babes, they're CEO's. And these are the women you see
• 1:00:21
  in media. And then you see Instagram
• 1:00:24
  models and you see only fans models becoming overnight
• 1:00:27
  celebrities. By doing the crazy sex stunts
• 1:00:29
  that you're talking about right now.
• 1:00:31
  And it's so common that it barely raises people's eyebrows
• 1:00:36
  anymore. People barely even notice.
• 1:00:38
  They're like, oh, it's just the way it is now.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah, basically it's cooking, holding a baby in your one arm,
• 1:00:46
  doing your job in the other arm, wearing a bikini and and then
• 1:00:51
  doing that Hock to a thing that that girl did, whatever that
• 1:00:54
  thing was. But it's it's also stupid.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, yeah, It's very stupid. And it's like my big thing when
• 1:01:02
  I'm trying to help break women out of this and help them see
• 1:01:05
  that they've been totally conned is that, you know, what were the
• 1:01:09
  promises that feminism made us? What were you told that we were
• 1:01:13
  going to get out of this deal? Right.
• 1:01:14
  You're going to be liberated. That means your your husband
• 1:01:17
  can't tell you what to do if you're unhappy in your marriage.
• 1:01:20
  You can just leave. You don't even need a reason.
• 1:01:23
  You're going to have your own money, you're going to have your
• 1:01:25
  own stuff. You're going to be powerful.
• 1:01:29
  You're going to be empowered and and sexually liberated.
• 1:01:32
  You can sleep with whoever you want whenever you want and you
• 1:01:35
  can, you don't have to have babies, you've got birth control
• 1:01:37
  and you've got abortion. So you don't ever have to be a
• 1:01:39
  mom if you don't want to. And you're going to be safer,
• 1:01:42
  right? Because we're going to liberate
• 1:01:44
  you from all the abusive husbands, which we get into that
• 1:01:47
  too. And that's not what happened.
• 1:01:50
  It's not what's happened at all. So when now that they've had a
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  few decades to study this, we have a massive report that the
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  government in America does about every decade or so.
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  It's called the National Incidence Study.
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  And they do this periodically. And what they do is collect from
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  every type of agency that would get reports about abuse from of
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  women and children in the United States.
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  So like socialist school workers, policemen, women
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  shelters, CPS, like, so it's not just one data set, it's all the
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  data. And we have four of them now.
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  And what we see over the last 45 years is that as we've broken
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  down the family and we've liberated women from marriage
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  and liberated them from the home, is that women are in more
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  cohabitation situations where they're just living with a guy.
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  That's the most like common thing now is just live with a
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  guy, whether he's your boyfriend or your baby daddy or whoever it
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  is, or maybe you divorced your husband and now you're living
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  with your new boyfriend. And what we see is that in those
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  situations where women are cohabitative are the situations
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  with the highest rates of abuse. I like 12 old, it's the most
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  abusive situation. Whereas we see the safest family
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  situation for both women and children across the board by a
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  huge margin. We're talking like a factor of
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  10 to 12 times For a woman to live with her children's
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  biological father and be married to him is the safest situation,
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  the safest living situation with the lowest rates of all types of
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  abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse,
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  everything. So what we've done is actually
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  make women more vulnerable, make children more vulnerable to the
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  men who are going to be the most predatory.
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  Because if you're say you're some kind of kid creeper, of
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  course you're going to want a single mom with no dad around
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  because you're going to have easy access to her kids.
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  She's going to need you for resources.
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  You can get trapped. You can get trapped more easily
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  into a cohabitative situation. I would argue then you're going
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  to be trapped by being married. So it's like you don't have
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  rights as you know, you don't have any property rights or
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  anything like that if you're just living with a guy.
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  So what feminism has promised US versus what it has delivered us.
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  Oh, let's see, women are more abused, they're more miserable,
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  they're more stressed out. They have higher rates of
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  alcoholism and disease. We have raising.
• 1:04:16
  We have rising rates of babies born to alcoholic mothers for
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  the first time ever. Like women's rates of alcoholism
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  historically have been much lower than men's, and that's no
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  longer the case. Women are now making up the
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  majority of Alcoholics for the first time in history, and 26%
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  of us are on at least one psychiatric medication for
• 1:04:37
  mental health problems. And women who live alone are
• 1:04:42
  much more economically vulnerable than married, their
• 1:04:46
  married cohorts. So all the things feminism
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  promised you, it was going to protect you from, it actually
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  made you more vulnerable to Women are not safer, they are
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  not happier. They're not doing better overall
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  than they were in the 60s or the 40s or the 1840s.
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  Rachel, there's an interesting by product of all of this, I
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  mean, we're talking a lot about the effects on women, but the
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  effects on men have also been very negative.
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  Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, what we've done to men
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  is take away any incentive they had to overcome obstacles, to
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  strive for greatness, to have purpose and meaning.
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  And what men, men really need like a mission, they need a
• 1:05:31
  purpose and they need a meaning. And when they don't have that,
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  we have what we see now, which is like this, this rising group
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  of young men who do not ever move out of their parents house.
• 1:05:43
  We have the lowest rate of male labour force participation in
• 1:05:47
  the United States that we've ever had.
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  So we have this strange new phenomenon of men just not
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  working, which has never happened.
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  And then men's mental health is worse.
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  Men's suicide rates are on the rise.
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  It's it's been very bad for men as well.
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  And now there's like a huge chunk of the younger generation
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  that have never been in a real relationship.
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  A lot of them are completely sexless.
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  But even of, of the ones that are having sex, it tends to be
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  hookup culture. And they're not even thinking.
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  They've kind of decided I don't want to do the marriage and
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  family stuff because men get shellacked so badly in the
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  family court systems that they look at the risk and decide it's
• 1:06:29
  not worth it. And this is another really huge
• 1:06:32
  catastrophic problem that we have on our hands because if men
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  are looking at family and going, it's not worth it because I have
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  no way to protect myself if anything goes wrong.
• 1:06:41
  If my strong independent wife decides the neighbour makes her
• 1:06:44
  feel sexy, she can take my kids and half my stuff and I get
• 1:06:47
  zeroed out and I have to start over in my midlife like I'm not
• 1:06:52
  doing that. And they've this younger
• 1:06:54
  generation has seen it happen to their dads and a lot of times to
• 1:06:56
  their grandfathers. And they're just saying, no, I
• 1:06:59
  don't think so. And by the way, this how did we
• 1:07:02
  end up with family courts? How do we end up with no fault
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  divorce? How do we end up with marriage
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  being in the state it's in? It's that same woman I was
• 1:07:10
  telling you about Alexander Cole and I in Russia became Russia
• 1:07:15
  became the first country to take marriage and make it no longer
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  like a sacrament that was tied to the church and made it simply
• 1:07:21
  a certificate that you get from the state.
• 1:07:23
  She completely removed church from the equation and they had
• 1:07:26
  no fault divorce in Russia in like 1918 and the the marriage
• 1:07:33
  rates just plummeted there. The divorce rates skyrocketed
• 1:07:36
  and Russia has not really recovered from it.
• 1:07:39
  And other places around the world followed suit with that
• 1:07:43
  shortly after. So like in the United States,
• 1:07:45
  there was an organisation called the National Association of
• 1:07:47
  Women Lawyers and they had been working since about 1911 to get
• 1:07:52
  no fault divorce pass to make it easy cheap to get a divorce.
• 1:07:56
  And basically, I mean, their stated goal was to kind of
• 1:07:58
  destroy marriage. So we're in this situation where
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  for a man, does it make sense if there's literally there?
• 1:08:08
  First of all, there's no spiritual purpose to marriage
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  anymore, right? Everybody thinks it's like a
• 1:08:11
  living arrangement. It's like a roommate contract,
• 1:08:13
  Like, oh, we split the bills and we'll live together and we'll
• 1:08:16
  have a kid. So why are we surprised that
• 1:08:19
  nobody stays married anymore? It's practically meaningless.
• 1:08:22
  It's kind of like your gym contract, you know, it's, it's
• 1:08:25
  harder to get out of your apartment lease than it is to
• 1:08:27
  get out of your marriage now. And men are just looking at this
• 1:08:30
  and going, why would I do that? And to be frank, I think that
• 1:08:34
  they're correct to think that now.
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  It doesn't mean I'm against marriage.
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  I think it means that we need to turn it back into a sacrament,
• 1:08:41
  make it meaningful again. And I don't think it should be
• 1:08:44
  so easy to dissolve a family just because you're not into him
• 1:08:47
  anymore. And women leave 75 to 80% of the
• 1:08:50
  time. Most divorces are initiated by
• 1:08:53
  women and feminists love to say, well, that means that the men
• 1:08:55
  aren't doing enough. The men aren't trying hard
• 1:08:58
  enough. The men need to get it together.
• 1:08:59
  It's what you'll always hear in the media especially.
• 1:09:01
  This is my big bone to pick with the conservative right.
• 1:09:04
  They always want to completely blame the man.
• 1:09:06
  And I'm not saying we shouldn't make men responsible, but
• 1:09:09
  generally we hold men responsible more than we hold
• 1:09:12
  women responsible for anything. So this idea that men just need
• 1:09:16
  to do better, I don't know. What's their motivation for
• 1:09:20
  doing better? What do?
• 1:09:21
  What do men get out of anything anymore?
• 1:09:23
  We've taken away all the incentive.
• 1:09:25
  What is the moral of the story? Oh, man, that's a big question.
• 1:09:31
  But I think the moral of the story is that Christendom had it
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  right. You know, we had 2000 years of
• 1:09:37
  history where nothing is guaranteed in this life.
• 1:09:40
  There, there are no guarantees that everything's going to work
• 1:09:42
  out for you, that you're going to be happy.
• 1:09:45
  Happiness isn't the goal. Happiness is kind of a byproduct
• 1:09:48
  of living a meaningful life and striving toward virtue and
• 1:09:51
  trying to avoid vice. It's just like a a happy side
• 1:09:55
  effect of righteous living. And when the Enlightenment came
• 1:10:01
  and all of its secular anti Christian attitudes, the
• 1:10:06
  egalitarianism, the feminism, the scientism, right following
• 1:10:10
  science as a God instead. And then we had this big
• 1:10:13
  industrial boom that created this technological world that
• 1:10:17
  has convinced us that we're God and that we can remake reality
• 1:10:21
  in our image. Instead, I think what we're
• 1:10:24
  learning is that when you try to do those things, when you try to
• 1:10:27
  make men, women and women men, and you try to blur those lines
• 1:10:30
  and you try to negate nature and you reject human ontology,
• 1:10:35
  meaning like, what's our purpose?
• 1:10:37
  Why were we created? Who were we created by and for
• 1:10:41
  what reason? When you try to say I don't need
• 1:10:43
  any of that, I'm going to, I'm going to completely go against
• 1:10:47
  all of reality and all of nature and against God himself, which
• 1:10:50
  is really what feminism is at the end of the day.
• 1:10:53
  It's not a rebellion against men, it's a rebellion against
• 1:10:56
  God the Father and the structure and the nature he created.
• 1:11:02
  You're going to have a really bad time, right?
• 1:11:05
  Everything. When you take on this Luciferian
• 1:11:07
  agenda of trying to invert God's order and make it your own and
• 1:11:10
  do things in your way, you're going to end up with strife,
• 1:11:14
  suffering, chaos. We're seeing, you know, the
• 1:11:18
  family breakdown. We're seeing nations and
• 1:11:20
  infrastructure breakdown. We're seeing birth rate
• 1:11:23
  collapse. It literally is a death cult.
• 1:11:27
  Feminism is a death cult. And all the abortion and
• 1:11:31
  antinatalism that comes with it, and it causes suffering for
• 1:11:35
  everyone. It's not good for women, it's
• 1:11:37
  not good for men. It's certainly not good for our
• 1:11:39
  children. And I think we're learning it
• 1:11:41
  the hard way. And I just hope that we can
• 1:11:44
  correct the ship before things get like infinitely worse
• 1:11:48
  because they're bad now, but they could get worse.
• 1:11:50
  So I hope that how people think about this stuff and kind of
• 1:11:55
  stop trying to do this crazy Luciferian project of inverting
• 1:11:59
  all of reality. How can I follow your work and
• 1:12:05
  get your book? You can get my book on Amazon.
• 1:12:09
  Good news by the way, my Kindle book has been down for like a
• 1:12:12
  year because crazy feminists wanted it taken down so they
• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:19
  So I had to go through this whole legal process to prove
• 1:12:22
  that it was indeed mine. And then I had to do some work
• 1:12:25
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• 1:12:27
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• 1:12:31
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• 1:12:38
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  If you type me in the search, all kinds of videos with me will
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  X at Rach for patriarchy. You didn't mention your book's
• 1:12:56
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• 1:12:59
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  And if you don't, if you're not sure you want the book, you can
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  on there that'll kind of give you a taste of that and what my
• 1:13:09
  writing and research is like. And my sub stack is R
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  wilson.substack.com. Rachel Wilson, thank you for
• 1:13:17
  joining me in the trenches. Thank you so much for having me,
• 1:13:20
  it's been fun.