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Furness Show 5-5: Chris Crawford in for Ian, Joe Sheehan, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 1: We have to talk a lot about the Mariners because boy,
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Speaker 1: oh boy, that win last night, and you know.
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Speaker 2: It's the sixth inning, and.
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Speaker 1: I post on Blue Sky that I don't think the
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Speaker 1: vibes have ever been lower for the Seattle Mariners. Now
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Speaker 1: that's a little hyperbolic, because they've been worse, but it's been.
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Speaker 2: A while since I felt like this.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I was watching the game on mute,
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Speaker 1: but even watching the game on mute, I could feel the.
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Speaker 2: Lack of energy in that place. And then it just
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Speaker 2: all changes.
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Speaker 1: And this is my favorite part about baseball, how the
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Speaker 1: energy can change just like that, just a couple of walks,
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Speaker 1: a Luke Railey bomb, another walk, and a JP Crawford after,
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Speaker 1: you know, after Anders and I slandered the man.
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Speaker 3: Oh yes we did.
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Speaker 2: Defense, you know we did.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, we didn't slander his plate approach.
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Speaker 1: We did not approach the plate. And that's what leads
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Speaker 1: to that that homer is the fact that he fouls
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Speaker 1: off a couple of tough pitches full count. You have
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Speaker 1: to throw him a strike and he takes advance of it.
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Speaker 1: But it was just phenomenal to see the energy in
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Speaker 1: that place just completely change and you know, this felt
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Speaker 1: necessary as much as a game on May fourth can
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Speaker 1: feel necessary. This felt necessary to me. A loss here
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Speaker 1: would have felt pretty darn close to devastating. I was
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Speaker 1: not feeling good. I was getting ready to go yell
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Speaker 1: like crazy on my OI and just have an absolute conniption.
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Speaker 1: But nope, Thankfully the logan Gilbert was just barely good
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Speaker 1: enough over his six innings, the bullpen was good enough,
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Speaker 1: and it just took one half of an inning to
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Speaker 1: score some runs, and you get a chance, really good
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Speaker 1: chance to win a series against a really good baseball team.
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think it's one of those things where
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Speaker 4: if you lose that game, it's against one of the
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Speaker 4: best teams in the league. They're playing probably the best
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Speaker 4: baseball in Major League Baseball right now, I would say,
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Speaker 4: especially consider if you look at their record and they've
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Speaker 4: just been tearing the cover off the baseball. But they
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Speaker 4: didn't have Ronald A. Cooney Junior or Michael Harris the second.
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Speaker 4: Michael Harris too, Michael here the second. I don't know
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Speaker 4: exactly how you you know say it, but I've heard
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Speaker 4: it both ways.
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Speaker 5: Mike.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't have their two of their big guys
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Speaker 4: in the lineup, so you felt like you could have
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Speaker 4: taken advantage of that, and I felt like you feel
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Speaker 4: good about the pitching matchup too. But Logan, I want
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Speaker 4: to I want to ask your thoughts about Logan because Chris,
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Speaker 4: it seems like, for whatever reason, you had one of
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Speaker 4: the texts of the century yesterday and I completely stole
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Speaker 4: it and put it on Twitter because you're not on
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Speaker 4: Twitter anymore, which you know, I don't feel bad about,
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Speaker 4: but I'm just letting people know that that's exactly what happened.
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Speaker 4: But you said in our group chat that you know,
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Speaker 4: oh what inning? Is it the sixth inning? Time for
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Speaker 4: Logan be over to pitch poorly? So what is it
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Speaker 4: about the sixth inning that makes him struggle?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, because it's just maybe it is that
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Speaker 1: third time through the lineup that people are starting to
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Speaker 1: get more comfortable seeing the guy. But it's a weird
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Speaker 1: thing because you'd think it would still be difficult to
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Speaker 1: pick up the baseball on this guy, because if we
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Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, how much extension that Logan Gilbert generates.
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Speaker 1: But boy, oh boy, it was just I mean, and
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. One of the reasons I knew things
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Speaker 1: were going to go south, and knew is probably not
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Speaker 1: the right word, but why I felt like things could
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Speaker 1: go south very quickly was Logan Gilbert was getting slacked.
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Speaker 1: It just wasn't it was finding the defense. Like I
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Speaker 1: think he had given up like something like ten or
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Speaker 1: eleven hard hit baseballs, and that was before that six
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Speaker 1: th innings. Maybe that's a little off, but it was
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Speaker 1: a lot of hard contact and got out to Randy
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Speaker 1: rose Arena, by the way, for having one of his
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Speaker 1: best defensive games, pulling down a couple of those long,
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Speaker 1: long drives. Maybe Randy rose Arena is turning it around defensively.
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Speaker 1: That's hard for me to imagine, but you know, it'd
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Speaker 1: be nice to see. And he's certainly athletic enough to
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Speaker 1: play a good defense. But boy, all three of them,
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Speaker 1: those home runs, those were not cheapiss Those balls were
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Speaker 1: absolutely clawbered. And this is another thing where I think, Look,
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Speaker 1: I get why you're trying to get another inning out
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Speaker 1: of Logan Gilbert. It's the first game of a three
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Speaker 1: game series. You don't want to overuse your bullpen. With
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Speaker 1: the Matt Brash injury and the game's fire injury, which
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Speaker 1: that news broke like right after we logged off yesterday. Anders, boy,
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Speaker 1: that is tough news for that bullpen. So I get
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Speaker 1: that you're trying to get another inning. In an ideal world,
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Speaker 1: I think you're done with Logan after those five you
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Speaker 1: say thank you for five innings of one run baseball.
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Speaker 1: You got real lucky to do it, because boy, oh boy,
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Speaker 1: he was just getting hammered. It's just the results for
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta weren't as good as the process. I don't
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Speaker 1: know what's going on with him in the sixth inning,
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Speaker 1: but clearly the third time through the lineup, hitters are
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Speaker 1: starting to become much more comfortable facing him. And this
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Speaker 1: is not a new thing. We saw it last year
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Speaker 1: as as soon as he came back from the injury.
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Speaker 2: That there were so many five and dive scenes.
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Speaker 1: Mean, but a lot of five inning starts, a lot
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Speaker 1: of starts where he's not able to be efficient enough
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Speaker 1: or just isn't affected enough, effective enough, excuse me, through
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Speaker 1: that third time of the lineup that you don't feel comfortable.
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Speaker 2: But this is something we have to keep an eye
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Speaker 2: on now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, because it's not just a thing
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Speaker 4: this year either. It was a thing all of last
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Speaker 4: year almost too. It felt like, you know, you can
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Speaker 4: look at his expected stats and the deeper numbers, so
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Speaker 4: to speak, and think that his results should have been
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Speaker 4: better in twenty twenty five than they were, but you
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Speaker 4: also have to look at he's just not efficient. He
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Speaker 4: doesn't really have an outpitch right now. So there's been
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Speaker 4: too many times where you know, he only gets through
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Speaker 4: five and whatever innings, or gets through six kind of
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Speaker 4: struggling because he is taking five, six, seven pitches to
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Speaker 4: get the strikeout, or he is kind of having these
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Speaker 4: dink and dunk kind of stuff. That wasn't the case yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Like you said, he was getting hit pretty hard, and
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Speaker 4: this is one of those where he I think was
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Speaker 4: efficient yesterday, just wasn't as effective. But it is something
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Speaker 4: where he's just a far cry from that ace like
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Speaker 4: presence that he was in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if we ever see that again.
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Speaker 1: It's a good question, And you know, it's worth pointing
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Speaker 1: out that Logan Gilbert may not.
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Speaker 2: Be as young as people think. Yeah, he's twenty nine.
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Speaker 1: And there is a history of guys who have an
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Speaker 1: injury at this type of age who just aren't the
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Speaker 1: same picture anymore. And I'm just looking at his Baseball
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Speaker 1: Savant page right now, Andrews. There's some good stuff here,
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Speaker 1: Like he still generates all that elite extension. He's throwing
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Speaker 1: so many strikes. He might be throwing too many strikes.
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, five point four percent walk rate is really
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Speaker 1: really good, but maybe he needs to start nibbling a
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Speaker 1: little more. I'm not asking anyone to go full gil
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Speaker 1: Mash and gil Mesh is a reference that you won't
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Speaker 1: get because you're just too young.
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Speaker 2: That I hate your youth. I will mention it every
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Speaker 2: single time.
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's like right on the edge of my Mariner fandom.
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Speaker 4: That's like right when I was starting to become aware.
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Speaker 4: So I know, I know gil Yes.
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Speaker 2: That's good.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you know who good old Gilbert Mesh was.
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Speaker 1: But and then you look at is Chase rates good
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Speaker 1: sixty eighth percentile, thirty two percent with rate and twenty
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Speaker 1: nine percent that's in the seventy third percentile. Still throwing
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Speaker 1: plenty hard, not quite as hard I think as he
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Speaker 1: used to. But I don't think it's a velocity issue here.
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Speaker 1: But the averagexon velocity against him is ninety one point
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Speaker 1: six miles per hour, which is well below average and
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Speaker 1: hard hit rate of forty eight point eight percent, meaning
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Speaker 1: that if Logan Gilbert has a ball hit against him,
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Speaker 1: there is a twelve and twenty five chance a little
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Speaker 1: higher than that that it's going to be hard contact.
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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that is based on yesterday.
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Speaker 1: There were so many line drives that ended up in
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Speaker 1: gloves yesterday except for the very first batter of the
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Speaker 1: game who just molly wops a baseball. And then that's
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Speaker 1: sixth inning where they the timing and everything just finally
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Speaker 1: started going right for Atlanta. I will admit I am
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Speaker 1: much more concerned about Logan Gilbert than I thought I
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Speaker 1: would be. But I will say this, man, what a
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Speaker 1: great win that ends up being, because you know, j R.
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Speaker 1: Richie shout out to Bainbridge Island's finest. Probably I can't
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Speaker 1: imagine anyone else from Bayberg Island is all that great. Y,
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Speaker 1: let's let's not let's not have the island be catching
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Speaker 1: some strays.
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Speaker 3: Are we not tarnishing? Yeah, we don't tarnish.
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Speaker 1: I told you that we need to generate controversy.
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Speaker 3: Go back to Sheldon.
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Speaker 1: No, I mean I think I have like four family
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Speaker 1: members who live on Bainbridge Island if you're listening, my bad.
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Speaker 6: We have some colleagues who live over there. Our friend
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Speaker 6: Jody out there, she takes the ferry everyday.
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Speaker 2: Work. Shout out Jody, shout out. I do not have
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Speaker 2: that kind of stamina, shout out Bambridge Island.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I barely have enough standmina to
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Speaker 1: wait in line for a fairy thing from the front
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Speaker 1: team mubble like, definitely don't happen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, water taxi exactly.
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Speaker 1: But he was just dominant for five innings and a
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Speaker 1: lot of that credit goes to some poor at bats
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Speaker 1: from the Seattle Mariners.
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Speaker 2: Let's not go completely crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's definitely for me.
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Speaker 4: It's more the latter like, I didn't think he looked
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Speaker 4: that great, interesting, like maybe there was some swing and
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Speaker 4: miss stuff that he had, but I think his command
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Speaker 4: was off obviously by the fifth inning when he started
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Speaker 4: giving off the walks and the hit pitches and stuff.
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Speaker 4: But I just saw some feeble at bats from Mariners
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Speaker 4: up until that sixth inning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Unfortunately, we can probably talk about this a little
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Speaker 1: bit later. Cole Young has really scuffled over the last
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Speaker 1: few and you know, I'm not long term. Concerned about
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Speaker 1: Cole Young at all, Like the approach is too good
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Speaker 1: and what he's given you defensively is still going to
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Speaker 1: be But this is the thing about a first year
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Speaker 1: full time player, first year of major league action, where
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Speaker 1: he starts in the majors and hopefully ends in the majors.
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he wouldn't. But there are going
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Speaker 1: to be ups and downs. There are going to be times,
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately they've kind of relied on Cole Young's offense
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Speaker 1: to begin the year. I don't know if you can
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Speaker 1: do that now, hopefully, like Julio's starting to hit the
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Speaker 1: ball better. Josh Naylor, I thought, had a pretty decent
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Speaker 1: day at the plate Radio Rose Arena, remains vastly underrated
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Speaker 1: as an offensive player. My goodness, gracious that walk to
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Speaker 1: open that inning in six, Like it's easy to forget
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Speaker 1: about just how important that was too.
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Speaker 2: And shout out to kin Zone for drawn.
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Speaker 1: One as well. But you know, Cole Young is going
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Speaker 1: to have struggles. But at the same time, there's a
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Speaker 1: reason why they want to hit this guy at the
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Speaker 1: bottom of the order. It's so that there's not a
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Speaker 1: lot of offensive pressure. It's up to two, three, four,
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Speaker 1: and five. Of course cal Rawlin getting another day off
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Speaker 1: this is is really interesting.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean he was around and I was
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Speaker 6: in the clubhouse yesterday and you know, he was there.
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Speaker 6: It's not like he's absent from the team and everything.
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Speaker 6: He's doing his thing, but yeah, he's I think that
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Speaker 6: at this point we can have a tinge of concern.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know four nine, four five one Tacomadad's text line,
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Speaker 1: just how worried are you about this absence from cal Rawly?
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Speaker 1: And kind of how worried you'll be about how he
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Speaker 1: looks when he gets back. You know, this is the
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Speaker 1: first time in the while that he'll have a stint
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Speaker 1: where he isn't playing. How is he going to look
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Speaker 1: coming back from it? Because guys, you can say whatever
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Speaker 1: you want about Calrawly, start this lineup just looks so
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Speaker 1: much worse without him. He is such an important part
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Speaker 1: of what they're going to do. So we'll talk about that,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about just how important this win is. We'll
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Speaker 1: also talk some well also Joe, she's going to be
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Speaker 1: coming on. We'll talk a lot about Logan Gilbert. I
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Speaker 1: think with Joe, whether he likes it or not, I
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Speaker 1: text Joe saying that I have to talk to you
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Speaker 1: on the radio about this stuff, and he said, technically,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to. I don't think that was the
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Speaker 1: one thing that he maybe maybe he didn't what would
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Speaker 1: have preferred the lanky Canadian over me. But we'll talk
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Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about uh, we'll talk about JP
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Speaker 1: Crawford's defense, whether or not it is as big of
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Speaker 1: a concern for him as it is for me. Because
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Speaker 1: as fun as that home run was, we also saw
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Speaker 1: JP Crawford looked not so good defensively. Anders it was
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Speaker 1: it was the the ultimate JP Crawford game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. You got you got to see both
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Speaker 3: sides of it.
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Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, I kind of made this joke
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Speaker 4: on Twitter last night that like, oh, that's an app
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Speaker 4: bat any DH would be proud of about his home run,
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Speaker 4: But honestly it's.
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Speaker 5: Kind of true.
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Speaker 4: Like I feel like everyone kind of views him as
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Speaker 4: since he plays shortstop and like he's a good bat
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Speaker 4: for his position that he plays.
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Speaker 3: But I also think he's just a good bat period
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you look at we've talked about baseball
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Speaker 4: Somont a couple times that backs it up. He's kind
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Speaker 4: of he's hits the ball hard. I think you could
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Speaker 4: honestly say he's been unlucky to start the season as well,
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Speaker 4: so on the offensive side of the ball. So I
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Speaker 4: wonder if there's a conversation that needs to be had.
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Speaker 4: There isn't a really like easy option right now to
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Speaker 4: take him off a shortstop, but when or Cole Timerson
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Speaker 4: is ready, when that becomes apparent that he's ready to
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Speaker 4: take that next step up and you get the boost
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Speaker 4: defensively and Brendan Donovan his back and you know you
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Speaker 4: don't have to play Leo Revas every single day. I
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Speaker 4: wonder if there's a full time DH conversation with Ap Crawford,
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Speaker 4: because I really think that he would happen still have
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Speaker 4: really good value there to be go honest and honestly,
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Speaker 4: his value would be better because he's not hurting you defensively,
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Speaker 4: if that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody pointed out to me on Blue Sky that
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Speaker 1: he's still running about a two point one war rate
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Speaker 1: right now, which if you consider, like just looking at
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Speaker 1: the Baseball Savant page again batting run value, he's in
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Speaker 1: the seventieth percentile that is well above average.
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Speaker 3: That's been really good.
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Speaker 1: Base running value thirty fourth percentile. Well we'll round up
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Speaker 1: and call it just net zero, okay, but.
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Speaker 4: Like, okay, that's yeah, okay, thanks, thanks, thanks smart guy.
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Speaker 3: What are your math around here?
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Speaker 2: What are your math finished?
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Speaker 1: The point I don't want to do the same, And
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Speaker 1: then fielding run value, he's in the bottom two percentile,
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Speaker 1: a negative four, so his value goes up considerably if
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Speaker 1: he is playing designated hitter, if he is not the
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Speaker 1: everyday shortstop for you, because you know, not all struggling
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Speaker 1: defensive players are the same. The struggling left fielder and
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Speaker 1: the struggling shortstop are not the same. The struggling first
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Speaker 1: base in the struggling center fielder that ain't the same.
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Speaker 1: Shortstop is such an important defensive position where range and hands.
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Speaker 1: You know, the fact that he's still a sure handed
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Speaker 1: player for the most party, makes some throwing mistakes here
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Speaker 1: and there is solid and it's nice that he's not
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Speaker 1: adding extra self inflicted damage. But the fact that he's
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Speaker 1: not turning those into and taking hits and turning them
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Speaker 1: into outs, or taking what should be outs and turning
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Speaker 1: them into hits, which.
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Speaker 2: I think is the biggest issue.
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Speaker 1: It's problematic so yeah, I think there's absolutely a conversation
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Speaker 1: to be had there. But unfortunately, I think there's about
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Speaker 1: on the twenty six man roster, thirty seven players who
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Speaker 1: should be the designated hitter first yet give or thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm not great at math, as you guys running down,
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Speaker 1: but that's.
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Speaker 3: Why we work here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I just you know, Randy rose Arena should
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Speaker 1: be a designated hitter. Luke Rayley should be a designated hitter.
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Speaker 1: Dom kin z own obvious Sheele should be a designated hitter.
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Speaker 1: Rob Refsnyder there's a reason why the Mariners haven't felt
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Speaker 1: super comfortable putting him in the album field. So it's
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Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation, Uh to come a dodge text
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Speaker 1: line four nine four five one?
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that JP.
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Speaker 1: Crawford should start seeing time as a designated hitter? So
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Joe Sheian will talk about next. An
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Speaker 1: interesting signing for your Seattle Seahawks, Dante Fowler reportedly going
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Speaker 1: to join the Seahawks as a what I believe will
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Speaker 1: be a situational pass rusher. But we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 2: Chris Crawford and Free and Forness. The Seahawks make a move.
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Speaker 1: They sign defensive end Dante Fowler Junior. This is an
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Speaker 1: interesting one to meet for a couple of reasons. Number One,
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Speaker 1: he is a player with some pedigree. You know, he
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Speaker 1: was the third overall pick. I believe Torres acl like
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Speaker 1: right before his rookie season was going to start, has
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Speaker 1: a couple I believe of double digit SAX seasons, has
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Speaker 1: some less than spectacular production as well, And this was
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Speaker 1: one that's been rumored for a while anders But I
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Speaker 1: feel like this is while I made the not a joke,
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Speaker 1: but like you could debate how necessary it was for
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Speaker 1: the Sea for the Mariners to get that went over Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: it felt like a move like this was necessary for
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks because you just kind of look at the
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Speaker 1: depth of pass rushers that they had prior to this
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Speaker 1: Vowlor signing, and there's some really good players, but the
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Speaker 1: quality kind of wanes a little bit, and you know,
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Speaker 1: this is the type of move that takes some pressure
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Speaker 1: off of Riley Mills. This is the type of thing,
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Speaker 1: you know, heaven forbid an injury to one of the
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Speaker 1: upper echial on pass rushers was to happen. Ye, I
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Speaker 1: think it's more situational, but this is the type of
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Speaker 1: move that I think they had to make.
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Speaker 4: I think even if you didn't lose boy A Mafe
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Speaker 4: in the off season, that you could argue that they
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Speaker 4: still needed at least one more body in there. And
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Speaker 4: now that you did lose boy A Mafe and there's
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Speaker 4: questions about DeMarcus Lawrence, and I don't think he's gonna retire.
18:15
Speaker 4: I think we would have heard something by now if
18:17
Speaker 4: that were happening, But we still haven't been confirmed that
18:19
Speaker 4: he's of course playing for the next season. But they
18:23
Speaker 4: wouldn't just come out and say that if he is.
18:25
Speaker 4: We assume that he is at this point. But like
18:28
Speaker 4: losing boy A Mafe, you just need more bodies in there.
18:32
Speaker 4: And it's like I think with the Riley Mills and
18:36
Speaker 4: you know a couple other guys on that on that line,
18:39
Speaker 4: you were missing a true edge, like you have one
18:42
Speaker 4: of them in DeMarcus Lawrence. You have another one in
18:46
Speaker 4: Shena Nuosu, But that's kind of it at that. I
18:50
Speaker 4: guess Derek Hall as well, who had kind of a
18:53
Speaker 4: breakout year as well last year for the Seahawks. But
18:56
Speaker 4: depth is always important because you're not necessarily you don't
19:00
Speaker 4: have the top, top, top end talent on the edge position.
19:03
Speaker 4: I think you do in the interior defensive line with
19:07
Speaker 4: Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy, but you don't have the elite,
19:11
Speaker 4: elite talent. So you have to if you want to
19:14
Speaker 4: continue the defensive prowess that the Seahawks had last year,
19:17
Speaker 4: and it need some depth.
19:18
Speaker 6: Well, that's sorry I did, but I was just going
19:24
Speaker 6: to say that, you know, when you look at what
19:27
Speaker 6: Mike McDonald has done in such a short amount of
19:30
Speaker 6: time in his you know, in his career, he won
19:35
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, and he was coveted for this role
19:39
Speaker 6: because he was the best defensive coach in the league
19:42
Speaker 6: arguably when he was with the Ravens. Look what happened
19:45
Speaker 6: to them when he left John Harbaugh, who is an extremely,
19:49
Speaker 6: extremely longevity guy, when it came to being in Baltimore,
19:53
Speaker 6: he go So I just wanted to add that if
19:57
Speaker 6: he wants to sign someone you say yes before you
20:00
Speaker 6: start to doubt it.
20:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's that's such a good point.
20:04
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think sometimes we can get
20:07
Speaker 1: in trouble with that, like just the uh you know
20:10
Speaker 1: and Schneider we trust has been such a thing. But
20:13
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, like in Mike McDonald, he
20:15
Speaker 1: has just earned the benefit of the doubt is like
20:18
Speaker 1: beyond such an understatement of what Mike McDonald has earned
20:22
Speaker 1: in such a short amount of time. But Andrews, I
20:24
Speaker 1: think you made a really good point about the fact
20:26
Speaker 1: that like Riley Mills is not going to be a
20:29
Speaker 1: guy who that's not Patrick Kearney. That's not a guy
20:32
Speaker 1: who's just going to zoom around the edge and pick
20:35
Speaker 1: up a bunch of sacks. He's more of a guy
20:36
Speaker 1: who relies on strength. Anyone who saw that sack in
20:39
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, by the way, that was the play
20:42
Speaker 1: I replayed for those who don't know, I was at
20:44
Speaker 1: the game, but and I was impressed with that sack
20:47
Speaker 1: watching it in person. But when I watched the replay
20:50
Speaker 1: of the game, I probably watched that sack about twenty times,
20:53
Speaker 1: like just watching him absolutely manhandle those defensive linemen our
20:57
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and pushing that dude right to the lap
21:01
Speaker 1: of Drake May. But the speed is not his game
21:04
Speaker 1: and Mike Morris, that's not his game either. This is
21:06
Speaker 1: a guy who is more about setting the edge, protecting
21:10
Speaker 1: the edge in that way more than being a big
21:12
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Dontey Fowler's here to rush to quarterback like
21:15
Speaker 1: that's going to be his biggest responsibility, is going to
21:19
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. The type of guy that you're going
21:21
Speaker 1: to see on third down come in and just put
21:25
Speaker 1: the moves on things and it opens up things for
21:27
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and Jaren Reid and Byron Murphy to work
21:30
Speaker 1: on the inside and you know, guys like in WOSU.
21:34
Speaker 1: It was so great to see and WOSU have a
21:36
Speaker 1: big moment in the Super Bowl. By the way, sometimes
21:39
Speaker 1: you look at what he's done since signing a pretty
21:41
Speaker 1: dang big contract and you say, maybe not the production
21:45
Speaker 1: that you're really looking for from that, But boy, that
21:48
Speaker 1: was such a massive moment in that game. It just
21:51
Speaker 1: completely put everything away. I feel a lot better about
21:55
Speaker 1: the pass rush now. I feel a lot better about
21:58
Speaker 1: the depth that they have now. Now you know if
22:01
Speaker 1: injury occurs or if DeMarcus Lawrence was to say, I
22:05
Speaker 1: don't want to do this anymore. I think you've probably
22:08
Speaker 1: got to get make a move, Like I don't feel
22:10
Speaker 1: that confident in what they have right now because I
22:14
Speaker 1: just don't think you can rely on Mills and Mike
22:16
Speaker 1: Morris are those guys to be every down player. Andrews,
22:20
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, how comfortable are you in
22:23
Speaker 1: the depth up the middle now with Mills making that move?
22:26
Speaker 1: Because you know you've got Red, You've got Murphy, you've
22:31
Speaker 1: got Brandon Peeley.
22:32
Speaker 2: Outside of that, maybe a little bit of a weakness.
22:35
Speaker 2: Do you think defensive tackle might be something they still
22:37
Speaker 2: need to address?
22:38
Speaker 4: No, because you had Leonard Williams to that too. Sure,
22:41
Speaker 4: he's like fair probably one of your best players. And
22:44
Speaker 4: I forget the name of the guy they drafted this year,
22:47
Speaker 4: but they yeah, Devin Eastern, Who's generated a lot of
22:50
Speaker 4: hype in this first couple of days. Now I realize
22:52
Speaker 4: it's rookie mini camps, so there's not really sure much
22:56
Speaker 4: else besides hype. If they weren't generating hype, you'd be
22:58
Speaker 4: a little worried. But in I think people are kind
23:02
Speaker 4: of maybe possibly underrating the role that he's gonna play
23:05
Speaker 4: going forward because they really haven't had that like full
23:08
Speaker 4: on run stuffing nose tackle in a long time. And
23:12
Speaker 4: it's weird because if you look at his body, he
23:14
Speaker 4: Millins talked about this before, If you look at his body,
23:17
Speaker 4: he doesn't look like the as soft he would say,
23:19
Speaker 4: big Tubago, you know what I mean, the guy that
23:21
Speaker 4: would just you know, stuff the stuff the line because
23:23
Speaker 4: he's he's built, but he's a big dude. So I'm
23:26
Speaker 4: intrigued with what Devin Eastern can bring to this group
23:28
Speaker 4: as well. I feel very confident at the defensive tackle position.
23:31
Speaker 2: What about you? Yeah, I think I'm okay.
23:34
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes I forget that Leonard Williams is
23:36
Speaker 1: not I mean, Leonard Williams is almost positionless because of
23:40
Speaker 1: everything that he can do, you know what I mean.
23:42
Speaker 2: Like he is the type of guy who right, you.
23:44
Speaker 1: Know, if you put him at a straight edge, I
23:46
Speaker 1: think he could be that guy who generates twenty plus pressures.
23:49
Speaker 1: If you put him at a defensive tackle, I think
23:52
Speaker 1: he could be a run stuffer. Like if he just
23:54
Speaker 1: focused on that, Leonard Williams could do anything. I struggle
23:57
Speaker 1: to think of a more talented Seattle Seahawk and Leonard
24:00
Speaker 1: Williams more important Seattle Seahawks as well. He's really good,
24:03
Speaker 1: And you know, Byron Murphy, I kind of feel like
24:07
Speaker 1: the breakout season is coming in twenty twenty six, like
24:10
Speaker 1: or yeah, twenty twenty six, that's what year it is,
24:12
Speaker 1: right again, not very good at maths.
24:15
Speaker 3: That's not even a math man.
24:17
Speaker 7: No, No, I.
24:18
Speaker 2: Mean twenty six, Like technically that's a little bit of math.
24:22
Speaker 3: That's a little okay.
24:23
Speaker 4: I mean he had seven sacks last year. I argue
24:25
Speaker 4: he had his breakout season.
24:27
Speaker 2: I think there's more coming, Okay.
24:29
Speaker 1: And I was just about to say Byron Murphy was
24:31
Speaker 1: a really good player last year. I saw an absolutely
24:34
Speaker 1: ridiculous list from USA Today that ranked Byron Murphy as
24:37
Speaker 1: the Seahawks' biggest draft bust of this decade. And I'm
24:42
Speaker 1: just flabbergasted. Clearly someone not paying any attention.
24:46
Speaker 3: Well, who, what's going on?
24:49
Speaker 2: Oh what what would I pick over him? Like?
24:52
Speaker 4: What what draft bust did the Seahawks have? Because when
24:55
Speaker 4: you have a bunch of really good draft picks, it's
24:58
Speaker 4: hard to pick a bust out of those guys.
25:00
Speaker 1: I guess I would have to think about that a
25:02
Speaker 1: little bit like, because you know, we're out of the
25:05
Speaker 1: Jermaina Fetti's we're out of the.
25:07
Speaker 4: Uh because you said this decade, does that mean only
25:09
Speaker 4: twenty twenties.
25:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I believe that's what it was.
25:13
Speaker 1: I just remember seeing a lot of probably.
25:17
Speaker 4: Be my choice then say that again, D Skirch would
25:20
Speaker 4: probably be my choice then for that one.
25:22
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, D s courage is definitely up there. That
25:24
Speaker 1: was a bad pick in process and results. You don't
25:26
Speaker 1: draft twenty eight year old receivers out of Western Michigan
25:29
Speaker 1: and expect good things.
25:30
Speaker 2: To happen in the second round.
25:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, second round, Yeah.
25:34
Speaker 2: Second round pick. Yeah.
25:35
Speaker 1: I still I remember my buddy Pat Doherty texting me
25:38
Speaker 1: he covers the draft for Rota World, and just being like,
25:41
Speaker 1: what are they doing?
25:42
Speaker 2: Anytime you get one of those decks? It is not
25:45
Speaker 2: a positive thing. But yeah, I think Fowlers are really
25:48
Speaker 2: nice player.
25:48
Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see how the contract if we
25:51
Speaker 1: find out just how much this is incentive based. Yeah,
25:54
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean you're not I think expecting
25:58
Speaker 1: him to be like a starter on this defense. I
26:01
Speaker 1: don't imagine that they think he's going to be one
26:04
Speaker 1: of those course starting eleven, but boy, as a situational rusher,
26:08
Speaker 1: he sure can't help.
26:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know what, it's weird because this conversation
26:12
Speaker 4: reminds me a lot of a year ago when the
26:14
Speaker 4: Seahawks signed to Marcus Lawrence, a guy that had pedigree,
26:17
Speaker 4: that definitely had, you know, a couple of really good
26:22
Speaker 4: years with the Dallas Cowboys, and a lot of people
26:24
Speaker 4: thought he had kind of fallen off a little bit,
26:26
Speaker 4: and he came here and had one of his best
26:28
Speaker 4: seasons of his career. So I wonder if you know,
26:31
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be hard to replicate that, obviously because
26:34
Speaker 4: DeMarcus Lawrence was fantastic last year, But I think Fowler
26:38
Speaker 4: kind of is in that similar.
26:39
Speaker 3: Category of a guy got one.
26:41
Speaker 5: Yeah.
26:41
Speaker 4: I know I'm not saying that their age thing, but
26:44
Speaker 4: there are multiple acl tears in his history right, which
26:48
Speaker 4: is a little worrisome. But I still believe that, you know,
26:52
Speaker 4: there is something there, and you know, bringing in a
26:55
Speaker 4: guy that looks like the rest of the league kind
26:56
Speaker 4: of punted on a little bit that the Seahawks sees something.
27:00
Speaker 4: And this is what Jess was saying, kind of, I
27:02
Speaker 4: if Mike MacDonald's sees something this guy. I'm trusting it,
27:04
Speaker 4: you know, after what he showed us last year with
27:06
Speaker 4: DeMarcus Lawrence.
27:08
Speaker 2: No, that's a really good point.
27:10
Speaker 1: And like everything that guy has touched so far has
27:13
Speaker 1: basically turned to gold. Like there's there's not a lot
27:15
Speaker 1: of things I can think of that you would In fact,
27:18
Speaker 1: nothing right now that I can think of.
27:19
Speaker 2: But I've been thinking about math a lot.
27:21
Speaker 6: From the last Well, that's the thing. Until he gives
27:25
Speaker 6: you a reason to doubt him, why would you? And
27:28
Speaker 6: they clearly do their homework and it's not just Mike McDonald,
27:32
Speaker 6: it's John Schneider and his entire staff. That they do
27:36
Speaker 6: their homework and they're not going to waste money. I
27:38
Speaker 6: mean you can't in the NFL. You just can't do that.
27:41
Speaker 6: And we will see what the deal looks like. And
27:43
Speaker 6: I think the incentive laden contract that you were mentioning
27:46
Speaker 6: it might be is always a telltale sign as well.
27:51
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, yeah, therese are You know the type of
27:54
Speaker 1: guys that you bring in where it's much.
27:56
Speaker 2: More about.
27:59
Speaker 1: Weighing risk and re ward, and when you have volatility
28:02
Speaker 1: as Faler has provided, you have to weigh those things
28:05
Speaker 1: because you know you can't in a Capitolage.
28:08
Speaker 2: You cannot be saddled with those type of players.
28:11
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Corbyn Smith about this at two o'clock,
28:14
Speaker 1: what he expects from Dante Fowler and just how he
28:17
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some baseball with Joe Shehian
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Speaker 1: coming up at one twenty. We'll talk some Seahawks with
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Speaker 1: Corbyn Smith at two o'clock. But let's talk some baseball now,
28:55
Speaker 1: Anders just because like I'm still on a little bit
28:57
Speaker 1: of a high from that game, and you know Koma
29:00
Speaker 1: Dodge text line four nine, four or five to one.
29:02
Speaker 1: I'd really like to know if you guys felt that
29:04
Speaker 1: vibe change as well, because for five and a half
29:07
Speaker 1: innings it was as low as low could be and
29:10
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden everything sort of changes.
29:16
Speaker 2: It's baseball. Does this better?
29:18
Speaker 1: Than anything else, because look, you know, Andrews, you're a
29:21
Speaker 1: soccer guy. You've you see momentum changing, but it's a
29:24
Speaker 1: little bit slower, or sometimes it does come out of
29:27
Speaker 1: nowhere because you see a turnover or something like that, like.
29:30
Speaker 4: Arsenal scoring against Athletico right now, yeah.
29:33
Speaker 2: Hey how about that?
29:35
Speaker 1: Or you see it in basketball a little bit slower,
29:38
Speaker 1: threes start to fall, or you start to see a
29:41
Speaker 1: team figure out a defensive scheme where a double team
29:43
Speaker 1: starts working. In football, you know, you find a a
29:47
Speaker 1: Connor Williams to take advantage of, or a situation where
29:52
Speaker 1: you know, a you've set up a certain run play
29:55
Speaker 1: and now it's going to work and play action. But
29:57
Speaker 1: in baseball it can just change like that. And you
30:01
Speaker 1: know it can not only just change like that for
30:04
Speaker 1: that game. Sometimes it feels like anders it can just
30:06
Speaker 1: change like that for the season.
30:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I want to be careful before
30:10
Speaker 4: I jump on the same train as you, because I
30:12
Speaker 4: thought that was the case after the five.
30:14
Speaker 3: And one road trip, to be completely honest, it's fair.
30:16
Speaker 4: And then we came back and laid an egg against
30:19
Speaker 4: Kansas City, and then we started having all of our
30:21
Speaker 4: injuries and I'm like, oh, never mind, So, but you're
30:25
Speaker 4: right about baseball because I think it's the sport where
30:29
Speaker 4: most often the team who doesn't deserve to win can win,
30:33
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Sure, I think you can
30:37
Speaker 4: play so poorly for such a long stretch of the game,
30:41
Speaker 4: but you could still come out on top because of
30:44
Speaker 4: one really good inning. And that's exactly what happened yesterday.
30:46
Speaker 4: So good props to the Mariners. I did feel like
30:50
Speaker 4: that was a kind of cathartic moment for them. Hopefully
30:54
Speaker 4: they can build on that. I think a series win
30:56
Speaker 4: here against the Braves would be massive and it would
30:59
Speaker 4: really kind of get rid of the taste out of
31:01
Speaker 4: your mouth from the uh Kansas City series, because if
31:05
Speaker 4: you were to tell me with those two series that
31:07
Speaker 4: we would go too and four, I wouldn't sure thrilled,
31:11
Speaker 4: but I also wouldn't be like super you know, down
31:15
Speaker 4: about that either.
31:16
Speaker 1: You know what's kind of interesting here too, Anders is
31:19
Speaker 1: we have seen the Seattle Mariners have these types of
31:24
Speaker 1: games against Atlanta for like four straight years.
31:27
Speaker 2: It feels like, because I don't know.
31:29
Speaker 1: If you remember last year the two homer game from
31:33
Speaker 1: Julio Rodriguez where he just all of a sudden caught
31:37
Speaker 1: fire again took place in Atlanta after they were having
31:40
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lull. Maybe we need to
31:42
Speaker 1: start scheduling. I know you can't do it, but maybe
31:44
Speaker 1: Atlanta needs to start coming on schedule in Seattle a
31:47
Speaker 1: little bit more. Last year it was in Atlanta where
31:49
Speaker 1: you had the good moment. Yeah, but it is weird
31:51
Speaker 1: how this like, I don't know if you remember the
31:53
Speaker 1: homer from Julio Rodriguez off of Kenley Jansen that ties
31:57
Speaker 1: the game and then Aohennio Suarez gets to go ahead
32:00
Speaker 1: homer and the or the winning homer in the tenth inning.
32:02
Speaker 1: It's weird how that can come against the team that
32:05
Speaker 1: I for some reason would say that Seattle and Atlanta
32:07
Speaker 1: aren't rivals for some reason. Maybe it's based on the
32:10
Speaker 1: fact that they haven't played too often, but it's sure
32:14
Speaker 1: is crazy how that stuff can work out. The other
32:18
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about Anders is boy,
32:20
Speaker 1: oh boy, Leo Revos.
32:22
Speaker 2: This is getting a little bit hard to watch.
32:26
Speaker 1: And I know he's had some clutch hits, and you
32:28
Speaker 1: know he had a real clutch hit in Game five
32:31
Speaker 1: against Detroit, and you know, a one average a two
32:35
Speaker 1: seventy five on base percentage, which shows that he's drawing
32:38
Speaker 1: walks despite the fact that there's no reason to not
32:41
Speaker 1: throw this guy at strike. And I know he's in
32:44
Speaker 1: ninth and hopefully we'll see Brenda Donovan back sooner than later,
32:48
Speaker 1: but boy, this is hard to watch right now. I
32:51
Speaker 1: just I can't take Seattle seriously as a World Series
32:55
Speaker 1: contender watching Leo Rivas hit at the bottom.
32:57
Speaker 2: Of the lineup.
32:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's there's a big cat with that.
33:00
Speaker 4: I think when everyone is healthy, he's probably not an
33:03
Speaker 4: everyday player. You have Brendan Donovan, JP Crawford at short.
33:08
Speaker 4: It's just there's always been one of those guys injured
33:11
Speaker 4: at some point. This year, you haven't really had both
33:13
Speaker 4: of them at once, so Leo Rivoss has had to
33:16
Speaker 4: fill in those two spots. I think of him as
33:18
Speaker 4: a role player or sorry, you know, utility guy, defensive
33:24
Speaker 4: specialist who can draw a fair amount of walks. You know,
33:28
Speaker 4: I there's there's an issue of him playing every day.
33:31
Speaker 4: But this wasn't by design, right you you traded for
33:35
Speaker 4: Brendan Donovan. I'm not gonna fall to the roster construction
33:38
Speaker 4: too harshly. On this one, because it's not like you
33:41
Speaker 4: expected Leo Rivas to be an everyday player going into
33:43
Speaker 4: this year. But you're right, I think I did expect
33:47
Speaker 4: him to be a little bit better at the plate
33:48
Speaker 4: than he has been so far. I still feel like
33:53
Speaker 4: I may I don't know how you bid feel about this.
33:55
Speaker 4: They won't do it, but I think he's a better
33:57
Speaker 4: shortstop than JP at this point. I would rather see
34:00
Speaker 4: him there and then JPD hing, But then that takes
34:02
Speaker 4: one of Canzona Railey out of the lineup because then
34:06
Speaker 4: only one of them can play right field. That there's
34:08
Speaker 4: a whole kind of domino effect with that. But I
34:11
Speaker 4: to me, this is just injury related. This Brendan Donovan's
34:16
Speaker 4: out and then JP Crawford is out to start the year.
34:17
Speaker 4: That's the only reason we've seen him almost every single
34:19
Speaker 4: day this year.
34:21
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I think the Mariners' depth is
34:24
Speaker 1: better than it has been in most years. But this
34:27
Speaker 1: is still something where you see.
34:28
Speaker 4: This isn't like Tommy Lostella starting second base on obelbe
34:33
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
34:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tommy Lostella literally had to hit and literally could
34:37
Speaker 1: not hit to provide any type of value for you whatsoever.
34:41
Speaker 1: Leo Rivos is a perfectly capable defender at second base,
34:45
Speaker 1: third base, and can even handle shortstop. I don't hate
34:48
Speaker 1: the idea of him playing shortstop over Crawford. That's more
34:51
Speaker 1: of an insult to Crawford than compliment to Revos, if
34:53
Speaker 1: I'm being completely honest with you. But yeah, it's an
34:57
Speaker 1: interesting thing to see because man, those at bats last
35:01
Speaker 1: night were ugly, ugly, ugly ugly. And you know, he's
35:06
Speaker 1: hitting ninth, there's not a huge offensive expectation for him,
35:10
Speaker 1: but it does. You know, it's basically an automatic out
35:13
Speaker 1: right now. It's which weird to say for somebody who
35:17
Speaker 1: draws a ton of walks. I want to give credit
35:19
Speaker 1: to Wilson. I thought he used the bench actually really
35:21
Speaker 1: well last night. Yes, they don't end up scoring a run,
35:23
Speaker 1: but Rev Sneyder comes up for Canzone and gets a knock,
35:26
Speaker 1: Connor Joe draws a walk. Unfortunately, afterwards, Young Garver and
35:31
Speaker 1: Revas just do not get the job done at all.
35:33
Speaker 1: But it was nice to see those bench bats contribute
35:36
Speaker 1: a little bit. It was also really nice to see
35:38
Speaker 1: the bullpen pitch as well as it did, and Jose
35:41
Speaker 1: Ferrer I continue to just get frustrated by the fans
35:45
Speaker 1: reaction to this dude. He's got a two point one
35:48
Speaker 1: two ERA and he's worked multiple innings several times this year.
35:52
Speaker 1: He looked really good yesterday, Bizarro looked good, and then
35:56
Speaker 1: Andres Munoz just looked fantastic as well.
35:59
Speaker 2: So, you know, was Logan Gilbert at his best? Nowhere
36:02
Speaker 2: close to it, But it was.
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Speaker 1: Nice to see that bullpen and that bench do a
36:08
Speaker 1: pretty nice job in that one as well.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, if we were wrong, I don't
36:12
Speaker 4: need to say we were wrong about JP Crawford yesterday
36:15
Speaker 4: in the immediate reaction, but it is funny timing how
36:18
Speaker 4: we are harsh on his defense and then he comes
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Speaker 4: up with a big home run. That's that's the reality
36:24
Speaker 4: of sports radio. We're gonna get flamed for that. It's okay,
36:27
Speaker 4: But sure the people who thought that you and I
36:30
Speaker 4: kind of glazing the bullpen a little bit were on
36:33
Speaker 4: a rocker. You kind of saw why they This is
36:37
Speaker 4: without Matt Brash and gave spire. So that's your theoretically,
36:41
Speaker 4: what is that if you're talking about Ferrara and Bizardo,
36:44
Speaker 4: that's your third and fourth, fourth and fifth like leverage arms.
36:50
Speaker 4: If those are fourth and fifth leverage arms that you're
36:54
Speaker 4: in a really good position. And I totally agree with
36:57
Speaker 4: you on Jose Ferrer also, And if you throw props
37:00
Speaker 4: to Dan Wilson regarding the use of the bench, I'm
37:03
Speaker 4: gonna throw out props to Dan Wilson with leaving Ferrer
37:07
Speaker 4: for matt Olsen to start the eighth inning. And I
37:09
Speaker 4: realized it was laid out on a platter for him.
37:12
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, we have our lefty specialist who just
37:14
Speaker 4: had a quick seventh inning, and then we have their
37:17
Speaker 4: best left handed hitter coming up in the eighth inning.
37:19
Speaker 4: But I could totally see a reality where he's like, no,
37:22
Speaker 4: we don't want Ferrer to go the extra out, we
37:24
Speaker 4: want a clean inning for Bizarto, all that stuff. But
37:27
Speaker 4: he did the right thing, stuck with Ferrer for matt Olsen,
37:30
Speaker 4: then took him out right after that and Bizardo came
37:33
Speaker 4: in and dominated. So I am feeling good about the
37:37
Speaker 4: bullpen and they've been really good for a long stretch
37:39
Speaker 4: of the season.
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Speaker 1: And I just think it's worth pointing out too. I know,
37:44
Speaker 1: because everybody reads prospect lists. Everyone was enamored with Harry Ford,
37:48
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I didn't like Harry Ford. For
37:50
Speaker 1: those who don't know, I do a lot of prospect stuff.
37:52
Speaker 1: It's kind of how I got my start in this industry.
37:54
Speaker 1: Would you like to know what Harry Ford is slugging
37:58
Speaker 1: in Triple.
37:58
Speaker 2: A right now? A baseball?
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Speaker 5: Yes?
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Speaker 9: What is it?
38:02
Speaker 2: Two fourteen?
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Speaker 3: That's not his batting average.
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Speaker 1: Nope, his batting average is one seventy nine. He has
38:08
Speaker 1: a five hundred ops. So look it's early. It's only
38:13
Speaker 1: ninety eight played appearances. I think Jose Ferrara is helping
38:17
Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners a hell of a lot more than
38:19
Speaker 1: Harry Ford would, all due respect, yeah, I just don't
38:24
Speaker 1: think that you can argue that right now. And good
38:26
Speaker 1: for you, Jose Ferrara. I think you're going to be
38:28
Speaker 1: a really nice piece of this bullpen for the foreseeable future. Anyway, Uh, yesterday,
38:35
Speaker 1: you guys got a chance or you guys Jessamine worked
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Speaker 1: FM, Chris Crawford and for Ian Forness. So yesterday Jessman
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Speaker 1: worked for You Know What off and got a chance
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Speaker 1: to interview get some really good interviews with some players
40:44
Speaker 1: for Softy and Dick who just fall into.
40:47
Speaker 2: The lap of the hard work of other people.
40:48
Speaker 1: It's what they've done for their entire careers and it's
40:51
Speaker 1: just a real shock that they did it again. But
40:53
Speaker 1: they got a chance to talk to Emerson Hancock coming
40:56
Speaker 1: off not just one of the most dominant starts for
40:58
Speaker 1: the Mariners, one of the most dominant starts in Major
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Speaker 1: League Baseball, and he had a chance to talk to
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Speaker 1: them and had some really interesting things to say about
41:06
Speaker 1: how his season has started.
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Speaker 10: After striking out fourteen, Everson Hancock joins us right now
41:11
Speaker 10: across the street at T Mobile Park.
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Speaker 5: Emerson, how are you man?
41:16
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, just going on? Thanks for having me on.
41:18
Speaker 10: Yeah, not much man. First of all, congrats on a
41:21
Speaker 10: hell of a start on Saturday night. I know you
41:23
Speaker 10: trade it all for a win against those pesky Royals
41:26
Speaker 10: on Saturday, but damn did you look good?
41:28
Speaker 5: Man?
41:29
Speaker 10: How did that feel? How'd you feel going through that
41:32
Speaker 10: lineup on Saturday?
41:33
Speaker 12: Pal?
41:35
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think Saturday was special, you know,
41:37
Speaker 11: just with you know, retiring Randy's number. For me, it
41:40
Speaker 11: was a completely a whole new experience because you know,
41:44
Speaker 11: I'm trying to get ready for the game, but you know,
41:46
Speaker 11: as it's going on, like you kind of want to
41:48
Speaker 11: enjoy of everything that's going on. You see all the
41:51
Speaker 11: messages with people sending in he congratulating Randy, so I mean,
41:55
Speaker 11: obviously congrats to him. That was awesome. And then you know,
41:58
Speaker 11: just trying to be locked in and get ready to
41:59
Speaker 11: go out there, and it's a cute and you know,
42:01
Speaker 11: it's kind of part of it. The overall pretty special night.
42:03
Speaker 11: Like you said, would love to get the win, but
42:05
Speaker 11: that's baseball.
42:06
Speaker 13: Yeah, let's talk about Emerson Hancock as a pitcher. Difference
42:09
Speaker 13: between twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six. Obviously, even
42:12
Speaker 13: idiots like me can see the sweeper that we didn't
42:14
Speaker 13: see last year. But what else besides that new pitch
42:18
Speaker 13: has taken you to the next level.
42:21
Speaker 11: I think just more strikes. You know, the walks are down,
42:24
Speaker 11: you know, commanding the ball in the strike gone, just
42:26
Speaker 11: trusting your stuff a little bit more. And you know,
42:29
Speaker 11: if you're eliminating free bases and you make some treing
42:31
Speaker 11: together a couple of hits, it's a lot harder on
42:33
Speaker 11: opposing lineup.
42:35
Speaker 5: No question about it.
42:36
Speaker 10: But the transformation from a guy that this team was
42:39
Speaker 10: using as a reliever, remember that those days at times
42:42
Speaker 10: last year and where you are now. I mean, just
42:45
Speaker 10: talk about this journey and kind of what you felt
42:48
Speaker 10: that you had to show these guys to earn this
42:50
Speaker 10: spot that you have now.
42:53
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I think you got to go out
42:54
Speaker 11: and you got to earn it, you know, week by week.
42:57
Speaker 11: I think last year was you know, a grow experience
43:00
Speaker 11: in a lot of different ways as a starter, but
43:02
Speaker 11: also learning you know, how to be a bullpen piece.
43:05
Speaker 11: And for me, you know, extremely grateful for that experience,
43:08
Speaker 11: just the things that you learned about preparation, you know,
43:11
Speaker 11: a different mental approach to it, and you know, I
43:14
Speaker 11: knew I needed to make some adjustments going to this season.
43:17
Speaker 11: I knew that I needed to pitch to a higher
43:19
Speaker 11: standard because you know, that's that's the level that we
43:22
Speaker 11: want to pitch at here, and you were able to
43:24
Speaker 11: make some adjustments. I went into camp and you know,
43:27
Speaker 11: everything had just seemed like, you know, it had improved
43:30
Speaker 11: on it, and I just kind of wanted to keep
43:31
Speaker 11: going at it. And there's still always stuff to work
43:34
Speaker 11: on and improve and I just kind of want to
43:35
Speaker 11: try to keep doing that week by week.
43:37
Speaker 13: Well, I don't think you're ever going to forget that
43:39
Speaker 13: start on Saturday night, no question about it, not just
43:41
Speaker 13: because of the fourteen strikeouts, because it was also Randy
43:44
Speaker 13: Johnson Knight. How much did that kind of juice you up,
43:47
Speaker 13: inspire you? And then also how did you have to
43:50
Speaker 13: adjust because I mean, you guys didn't start for fifteen
43:53
Speaker 13: to twenty minutes past when you thought you were going
43:55
Speaker 13: to start pitching in that game.
43:58
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, you know going into it that the
44:00
Speaker 11: schedule might be a little bit off, but I mean
44:02
Speaker 11: that's just part of it. But I mean that's also
44:04
Speaker 11: kind of you know, what it's like being a reliever
44:06
Speaker 11: in a way, like there's no certain routine, it's just
44:09
Speaker 11: getting the bullpen get loose, and you know, when it's
44:11
Speaker 11: time for first pitch, just go out there and compete.
44:14
Speaker 11: And again, like like you said, you always remember a
44:16
Speaker 11: night like that, and you know you're trying to enjoy
44:19
Speaker 11: it as much you can because it's a special moment
44:22
Speaker 11: for anyone that that happens.
44:24
Speaker 3: You get your jersey retired, all.
44:26
Speaker 11: The stuff that went into like the career that he had,
44:28
Speaker 11: the competitor that he was, Like, you want to appreciate
44:31
Speaker 11: that as much as you can as a player, and
44:33
Speaker 11: just to be able to start on it, you know,
44:34
Speaker 11: was a was an honor.
44:36
Speaker 10: Yeah, did you Emerson Hancock with us? Did you honestly
44:40
Speaker 10: try to convince the skipper or even think about, all right,
44:44
Speaker 10: I'm at one hundred and three pitches, it's a career high.
44:48
Speaker 10: I've struck out fourteen. I really don't want to leave
44:51
Speaker 10: this game. Did you try and convince Dan to let
44:54
Speaker 10: you keep going at least to come out for the
44:55
Speaker 10: eighth for one more hitter.
44:58
Speaker 11: I mean, as competitor, are you, you always want to go
45:01
Speaker 11: in there, But at the same time, you know, I
45:03
Speaker 11: just go until they take the ball away from me.
45:05
Speaker 11: You know, I just want to do my job. I
45:07
Speaker 11: want to do the best that I can. And you
45:09
Speaker 11: know when Dan said it was, you know, the end
45:12
Speaker 11: of the night. You know, that's that's part of it.
45:13
Speaker 11: He turned over the bullpen and the you know, the
45:16
Speaker 11: rest of the game just kind of goes that way.
45:18
Speaker 11: But you never want to come out. But at the
45:20
Speaker 11: same time, you know when the just kind of you
45:22
Speaker 11: do everything you can down there to I just whatever
45:26
Speaker 11: Dan says, it's all right, I see it for what
45:28
Speaker 11: we got you.
45:29
Speaker 13: Yeah, Everson, I'm looking at your game log and it's
45:32
Speaker 13: ridiculously consistent. I mean, the worst game you've pitched this
45:37
Speaker 13: year is five innings, three runs, and yet when you
45:40
Speaker 13: look at the results, you only have three decisions.
45:43
Speaker 5: You're two and one. The team's three and four when you.
45:46
Speaker 13: Pitch, So is that does it get a little you know,
45:49
Speaker 13: you get a little legs and you're like, man, I
45:51
Speaker 13: really want to help this I'm doing everything I can
45:53
Speaker 13: to help this team win. But it's not always happening
45:55
Speaker 13: on the win loss Ledger, I.
45:58
Speaker 11: Think that's just baseball like that. That's how this game
46:01
Speaker 11: is going to go, and that's how the season's gonna go.
46:04
Speaker 11: And you know that just goes.
46:05
Speaker 12: For all of us.
46:06
Speaker 11: We got there, We compete as hard as we can.
46:08
Speaker 11: You know, you trust your stuff and at the end
46:10
Speaker 11: of the day, the results are what they are. You
46:12
Speaker 11: just want to go out there and do everything we
46:13
Speaker 11: can to try to get wins.
46:14
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, talk about this, Brave Steamer real quick.
46:17
Speaker 10: I'm assuming a kid from Cairo, Georgia may have grown
46:20
Speaker 10: up in Atlanta, brave fan.
46:21
Speaker 5: Do I have that right?
46:23
Speaker 12: Yeah? You got that right for sure.
46:25
Speaker 10: Okay, what's it like for I mean, what's it like
46:27
Speaker 10: facing these guys? I mean, you've been around the majors
46:30
Speaker 10: long enough now where the whole novelty's probably worn off
46:33
Speaker 10: a little bit for you. Maybe it would have been
46:35
Speaker 10: a different question when you were a rookie a few
46:37
Speaker 10: years back, But what do you think about maybe just
46:40
Speaker 10: you know, seeing these guys across the way, and and
46:43
Speaker 10: you know, having your team go up against your childhood
46:45
Speaker 10: you know team in some ways.
46:48
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, I remember pitching against something I think back
46:51
Speaker 11: in twenty four and that was one of the more
46:53
Speaker 11: experiences where you're, Okay, like this is really cool. And
46:56
Speaker 11: I think now it's gotten to the point where you know,
46:58
Speaker 11: you're you're looking at their lineup, you're looking at the team,
47:00
Speaker 11: and you know I won't get a pitch this series,
47:02
Speaker 11: but you're still thinking about, like, all right, how would
47:04
Speaker 11: I go against these guys? How would I want to
47:06
Speaker 11: match up to them? And you kind of want to
47:07
Speaker 11: you see how the game goes. They got a great team,
47:10
Speaker 11: great lineup, just all around really good groups. So it's
47:13
Speaker 11: gonna be a great series, great challenge for us.
47:15
Speaker 10: Yeah, Everson Hancock, listen man, great stuff. Did you one
47:18
Speaker 10: more for you?
47:18
Speaker 5: We'll let you go.
47:19
Speaker 10: Did you save anything from that game on Saturday any memorabilia?
47:24
Speaker 5: Like are you a collector? Are you? Are you even
47:26
Speaker 5: into that kind of stuff?
47:28
Speaker 12: Not too much.
47:29
Speaker 11: I mean obviously you know you get a ball obviously
47:32
Speaker 11: with the career high strikeout, that's something that I'll keep forever.
47:35
Speaker 11: And it's actually got you know, like they did the
47:38
Speaker 11: logo with Randy Johnson on it, which I was like,
47:40
Speaker 11: all right, that's really really cool and that's something that
47:43
Speaker 11: I know I'll keep forever. Yeah, And I thought, what
47:46
Speaker 11: a what a cool wait, especially with the stuff they
47:48
Speaker 11: we have in our hats and our jerseys. I mean
47:50
Speaker 11: just they did a great job with that on Saturday.
47:53
Speaker 5: Night, no doubt.
47:54
Speaker 10: Hey, listen man, great job Saturday. Go get them next
47:57
Speaker 10: time around, and then we'll talk down the road.
47:59
Speaker 5: Buddy.
47:59
Speaker 11: Thanks every awesome God, thank you all so much for
48:02
Speaker 11: having me.
48:04
Speaker 1: So, I think the most shocking thing I learned from
48:06
Speaker 1: that interview anders.
48:07
Speaker 2: Is I think he might be from Georgia.
48:12
Speaker 1: I think not that Emerson automatically gave it away, but
48:16
Speaker 1: that guy sounded like he was he was ready to
48:19
Speaker 1: go to Maybury like that is. I forget sometimes just
48:23
Speaker 1: how southern Emerson Hancock is. He does it's very it's relaxing. Yeah,
48:31
Speaker 1: some Southern draws are not relaxing.
48:34
Speaker 2: Some of them make you.
48:36
Speaker 1: Fearful that there is a gator that is coming to
48:38
Speaker 1: get you. That one is more like, uh, hey, we're
48:42
Speaker 1: gonna have some mar' not marmalade, but we're gonna have
48:45
Speaker 1: some moments. Yes, gumbo sounds incredible right now. But thanks
48:51
Speaker 1: so much to Emerson for joining Softy and Dick, and
48:53
Speaker 1: I guess they did fine with the interview. But I
48:56
Speaker 1: think what the most interesting thing he mentioned there was
48:59
Speaker 1: So you picture Emerson Hancock right the last couple of years,
49:04
Speaker 1: quite a few clunkers, some decent starts, but quite a
49:06
Speaker 1: few clunkers, But you don't really picture him as a guy.
49:10
Speaker 2: Who sometimes struggles to throw strikes.
49:13
Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock has been a guy in the past who
49:15
Speaker 1: has really struggled to throw consistent strikes. And when you
49:19
Speaker 1: don't have elite swing and miss stuff, that really adds up.
49:22
Speaker 1: That self inflicted damage was one of the reasons why
49:25
Speaker 1: there were some just heck, look at that very first
49:28
Speaker 1: start he had against Detroit like last year. Yes, doesn't
49:31
Speaker 1: even get out of the first inning. They send him
49:33
Speaker 1: down to see Luis F. Castillo, And that's not me, Sueer,
49:37
Speaker 1: and that is Louise F. Castino that made starts for
49:41
Speaker 1: your Mariners. They had that little confidence in him. Well,
49:44
Speaker 1: now not only is he just pounding the strike zone,
49:47
Speaker 1: he's missing bats at a rate that I just didn't
49:50
Speaker 1: expect to see. And I was a big fan of
49:52
Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock. There was a chance if Emerson Hancock could
49:56
Speaker 1: have been drafted right after his sophomore year, like right
49:59
Speaker 1: after like the draft takes place right then, he might
50:02
Speaker 1: have been the first overall pick. Like he was showing
50:04
Speaker 1: ninety eight miles per hour fastball, a plus slider, a
50:08
Speaker 1: plus change, the ability to throw all of those pitches
50:11
Speaker 1: for strikes. He looked legit and then you know, that's
50:14
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty year where a lot of things go
50:16
Speaker 1: wrong for a lot of people and it uncludes draft prospects.
50:20
Speaker 1: You know, is stock wings a little bit. The Mariners
50:22
Speaker 1: are thrilled to get him at six, but it's been
50:25
Speaker 1: kind of an up and down journey. But this is
50:27
Speaker 1: the other thing about baseball, Anders, You never can really
50:30
Speaker 1: give up on talent. You just can't because, yeah, you
50:34
Speaker 1: might have to make some adjustments, Yeah you might have
50:37
Speaker 1: to deal with more bitter than better, but there's always
50:40
Speaker 1: that chance that better is going to come through. You
50:43
Speaker 1: just cannot give up on talent in this league.
50:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you can't.
50:47
Speaker 4: And the other thing I really like about baseball, and
50:49
Speaker 4: you can say this about most other sports too, but
50:51
Speaker 4: I think baseball is especially the case here. Career paths
50:54
Speaker 4: are not linear. Oh they go up, they go down,
50:58
Speaker 4: they go back up. You have an early season, you know,
51:01
Speaker 4: or an early career spike, and then you have a
51:04
Speaker 4: sophomore slump and then you know you're kind of an
51:07
Speaker 4: everyday utility person, and then all of a sudden, Max
51:09
Speaker 4: Munsey looking at you. Dodgers finds a way to become
51:13
Speaker 4: at age like thirty two one of the best players
51:15
Speaker 4: at your position just being in a different situation. There's
51:19
Speaker 4: so many cases of you know, there are cases of
51:22
Speaker 4: the young guys hitting the ground running, being good from
51:25
Speaker 4: the beginning, and just continuing to be good from.
51:28
Speaker 3: That point on.
51:29
Speaker 4: But there are also cases like Emerson Hancock, where even
51:32
Speaker 4: if you have that talent, have that high pedigree, you
51:36
Speaker 4: may not have the early success that a lot of
51:39
Speaker 4: other people expect of you, but you eventually do find
51:42
Speaker 4: it if you keep grinding and finding your way. And
51:44
Speaker 4: I love the new armslot with him, and I think
51:46
Speaker 4: he's as someone listening to his very well rounded and
51:49
Speaker 4: kind of centered and grounded, you know viewpoint when he's talking,
51:54
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I'm not surprised that him not
51:57
Speaker 4: having early success didn't throw him off.
52:00
Speaker 1: No, And you know, coachability is very important, especially for pitchers. Yes,
52:04
Speaker 1: the ability to make those adjustments, and there are some
52:07
Speaker 1: guys who are willing to do it. There are some
52:09
Speaker 1: guys who flame out, not just because of injury, not
52:13
Speaker 1: just because of mechanical issues, but because they don't want
52:15
Speaker 1: to put that work in. I've never got to that impression,
52:18
Speaker 1: And you know, there's a reason Emerson Hancock hasn't been moved.
52:22
Speaker 1: There was a reason why Seattle said we are not
52:24
Speaker 1: going to sell this guy for fifty cents on the dollar.
52:27
Speaker 2: So here's a fun question for you Anderson Hurst.
52:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up.
52:31
Speaker 1: Let's say that the Seattle Mariners had a playoff series
52:35
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow. You probably know where I'm going.
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Speaker 3: I do.
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Speaker 2: Who's starting game one? Game one?
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Speaker 4: I'd say George Kirby. He was your Game one starter
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Speaker 4: last year, and I don't think he's done anything to
52:48
Speaker 4: discount that. But Emerson Hancock's one of the three. That's
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Speaker 4: that's absolutely one of the you know, obvious answers for me.
52:55
Speaker 4: The real question is who's the third one? Yeah, seriously,
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Speaker 4: I'm not even joking at this point.
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Speaker 1: So I know the last two have been uh oof
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Speaker 1: macgoof phrase I like to say, and probably should get
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Speaker 1: T shirts made.
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Speaker 2: I still go with Brian Will Okay, I still go
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Speaker 2: with Brian.
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Speaker 4: Really, So you're dropping Logan Gilbert out of the playoff rotation?
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Speaker 2: I am three game series now, he's starting game four
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Speaker 2: for me? Like, you can't start in Luis Castillo over
53:22
Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert.
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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, but you don't go back to Kirby then
53:26
Speaker 4: you do four starters.
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Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, similar to what they did in Detroit.
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Speaker 1: And I can't remember the exact order there, but where
53:33
Speaker 1: Bryce Miller ended up starting gating four, Even with that
53:37
Speaker 1: situation with him not being very good prior to that,
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Speaker 1: I still think you go with four.
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Speaker 4: But Brian was on the shelf at that point, so
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Speaker 4: I think it was Kirby.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point. It's a good point. If everybody's healthy,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. But yeah, Hancock has to
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Speaker 1: be one of the starters. And imagine saying that. On
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Speaker 1: Chris Crawford in for a Furness, and I am honored
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Speaker 1: to talk to one of the best baseball minds out
54:38
Speaker 1: there and one of the people that.
54:42
Speaker 2: I actually look forward to talking to.
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, not a lot of them, but
54:45
Speaker 1: Joe Shehan is one of those. But Joe, I'm gonna
54:48
Speaker 1: open it with golf because I know you're a golf guy.
54:51
Speaker 1: Do you even feel kind of bad for John Ram
54:54
Speaker 1: right now?
54:56
Speaker 9: I had him in a lead where basically you can
55:00
Speaker 9: take guys like rom and you're only gonna get the
55:03
Speaker 9: four majors out of them. But I don't really feel
55:05
Speaker 9: back for him. He took the money. I don't feel
55:07
Speaker 9: bad for any of those guys. I made the decision
55:08
Speaker 9: for themselves, and whatever happens happened. It never at no
55:11
Speaker 9: point did it seemed like lib was actually going to last.
55:15
Speaker 9: So you guys got paid, and I guess he's gonna
55:17
Speaker 9: play some some tournaments on the VP World tornaw.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very similar to the good old tweet,
55:27
Speaker 1: the me reaping. Heck yes, me sewing or whatever that's
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Speaker 1: supposed to be. Uh, they found out, They found out
55:34
Speaker 1: pretty hard. Yeah, So John Ram, congrats on the millions
55:38
Speaker 1: of dollars and I'm sure everything will work out just
55:40
Speaker 1: fine for you. But let's talk some Seattle Mariner baseball
55:43
Speaker 1: who you know you gave me a hard time. I
55:47
Speaker 1: mentioned that the vibes felt very, very low heading into
55:50
Speaker 1: the sixth thing. It's a three nothing game, and then
55:53
Speaker 1: things change very quickly because of a Luke Rayley homer
55:57
Speaker 1: and a JP Crawt or two run homer. Look, it's
56:00
Speaker 1: May fourth now, it was May fourth, then it's May
56:02
Speaker 1: fifth now.
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Speaker 2: Uh Am.
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Speaker 1: I crazy to think that that win feel at least
56:07
Speaker 1: a little bit necessary for the Seattle Mariners.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm just hoping to get you to say
56:12
Speaker 9: that the vibes around Joshi and are really terrible, you know,
56:19
Speaker 9: because you know, you know me, I'm very some somebody
56:21
Speaker 9: who's always going to take the most patient rout. I'm
56:24
Speaker 9: rarely going to even thirty five games into the season.
56:27
Speaker 9: It's just not a lot of time. I feel like
56:29
Speaker 9: when he said that last night, we joked about it,
56:30
Speaker 9: but you know I'm doing I've been coming out of
56:33
Speaker 9: the end and you for a couple of years now,
56:35
Speaker 9: and it feels like every year with the Mariners, we
56:37
Speaker 9: get you a stretch where they just don't look good
56:39
Speaker 9: and the vibes feel really bad. I mean, I think
56:42
Speaker 9: it's worse this year. This is not a good defensive team.
56:44
Speaker 9: And that is there are two ways, I think, well
56:47
Speaker 9: maybe three ways that it's like it stinks to be
56:50
Speaker 9: a fan.
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Speaker 14: For a team.
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Speaker 9: One is the Bolton is really bad, so you're up
56:54
Speaker 9: three to one in the seventh all the time and
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Speaker 9: you keep losing. A second is the defense, and you
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Speaker 9: see it with the scene you and I. I don't
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Speaker 9: think you and I talked about Crawford that I talked
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Speaker 9: about a lot with Ian, but it's just signed the
57:06
Speaker 9: defensive team. It's not gonna you know, Randy RaSE Arena is,
57:10
Speaker 9: I don't know why he's not that good as in left,
57:12
Speaker 9: but he's not so really You've got you know, Paul Young,
57:17
Speaker 9: Rally and Hiluo Rodriguez who are plus defenders. And then
57:20
Speaker 9: you know, Donovan was very shaky at third. I'm not
57:23
Speaker 9: sure what they'll do after he comes back. And that
57:26
Speaker 9: to me is it becomes a hard watch. It's just
57:29
Speaker 9: very and that will contribute to as you said last night,
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Speaker 9: the vibes and like the divide can turn around with
57:34
Speaker 9: a two on Homer. Uh, you know was world Weaver's
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Speaker 9: line momentum is tomorrow starting pitchers, but the narrative have
57:40
Speaker 9: been hard to watch in a way that would certainly
57:42
Speaker 9: give you that impression.
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Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and Free in forness talking to Joe she
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Speaker 1: and Logan Gilbert six and things four runs, all four
57:50
Speaker 1: of those on solo homers. Andrews and I have talked
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Speaker 1: about this a little bit that Logan Gilbert has had
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Speaker 1: some of the best swinging miss stuff in baseball over
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Speaker 1: the last few years, but since that injury, he's really
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Speaker 1: struggled to get deep in games. And when he does
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Speaker 1: get deep where he's able to get sixth inning, boy,
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Speaker 1: it seems like he's struggling to get through those. Is
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Speaker 1: it the case of hitters picking up the baseball better?
58:14
Speaker 1: Because I mentioned this was Anders. It's not an extension
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Speaker 1: thing because that guy generates the most extension of anybody
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Speaker 1: in baseball. It's still, I think hard to pick it up,
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Speaker 1: but they sure seem to have a lot more success.
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Speaker 2: Late in games.
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Speaker 1: Is this just you know, how much of this is
58:28
Speaker 1: based on just baseball players being a lot better when
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Speaker 1: they see a guy a few times, and how much
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Speaker 1: of this has to do with Logan Gilbert's stuff in command.
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Speaker 9: Well, the stuff she is about to say, surely the
58:38
Speaker 9: velocity is the fan. He's change of his pitch picks
58:40
Speaker 9: a little bit like everybody is still in the fastball
58:42
Speaker 9: a little bit less and trying to work on put
58:45
Speaker 9: some other stuff forward. But he's watching it. It seems
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Speaker 9: like he's talking about this with guys like Dave Bush
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Speaker 9: and George Kirby's had this prompem sometimes where you're almost
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Speaker 9: around the plate too much. He'd almost be better off
58:56
Speaker 9: he's working outside the zone and not being quite so
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Speaker 9: oder the plate is munch and I think a lot
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Speaker 9: of that is he's throwing very He's thing more hittable pitches.
59:04
Speaker 9: Guys are sitting on him. I mean, the quality of
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Speaker 9: contact off Logan Gilbert so far this year is incredible.
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Speaker 9: So whether it's a deception thing, every time a guy
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Speaker 9: doves a three runs in the minning we're here about
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Speaker 9: only must be pipping. Maybe he's not funneling correctly.
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Speaker 14: I haven't.
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna be honest with you to hit me with
59:23
Speaker 9: this now.
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Speaker 14: I can't say I've got a deep dive on Logan Gilbert, but.
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Speaker 9: Just seem to me like he should be getting the
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Speaker 9: results that he's gotten based on this stuff, so I
59:31
Speaker 9: have to assume it's something where as you say, guys
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Speaker 9: are picking up the ball a little bit, a little
59:37
Speaker 9: bit better than they have in pretty prior season. But
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Speaker 9: I look at the stuff, but I think he's really
59:40
Speaker 9: the same guy.
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Speaker 1: What in the heck are you doing with your life
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Speaker 1: if you're not doing deep dives on Logan Gilbert show, come.
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Speaker 12: On, not much.
59:51
Speaker 1: No, it's totally totally understandable. So Logan Gilbert has a
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Speaker 1: two and three record, I know wins and losses, a
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Speaker 1: four point three to Oho e Ra and at one
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Speaker 1: point three zero Way have. Meanwhile, Emerson Hancock has looked
1:00:04
Speaker 1: like the ace of the Seattle Mariners staff, coming off
1:00:07
Speaker 1: a seven inning start, fourteen strikeouts and Joe his sweeper
1:00:12
Speaker 1: in that start against the Royals, that was one of
1:00:14
Speaker 1: the best breaking balls that I have seen this year.
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Speaker 2: You know, a guy who has.
1:00:18
Speaker 1: Prospect pedigree, was the sixth overall pick, has had some
1:00:22
Speaker 1: flashes of good in the majors, but have been often
1:00:25
Speaker 1: followed by some real stinky clunkers. How much are you
1:00:29
Speaker 1: buying into Emerson Hancock.
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Speaker 9: Now a little bit just because he stopped walking us. Yeah,
1:00:37
Speaker 9: was it less than a walk a start or six walks?
1:00:39
Speaker 9: Six walks and seven starts now? And you know I
1:00:41
Speaker 9: talked about guys being around the zone, but when you
1:00:43
Speaker 9: simply stopped walking here, I think about going back a
1:00:47
Speaker 9: little bit here, guys on cab two Sturry or state
1:00:49
Speaker 9: period Kirch shilling this guy, I always thinking about it
1:00:51
Speaker 9: here where I'm going to throw strikes. Yes, I'm going
1:00:54
Speaker 9: to give us some hard contact, but I'm not going
1:00:56
Speaker 9: to give up any walk. And that's where how much
1:00:58
Speaker 9: as Tony Kenkock has been this year, it's very hard
1:01:02
Speaker 9: to I'm gonna actually I'll use the name that you
1:01:03
Speaker 9: guys are failing with in Seattle. And Carlos Somo, who
1:01:06
Speaker 9: added his best was also this this type of picture verrechus.
1:01:09
Speaker 9: I'm never going to walk anybody, and I'm gonna take
1:01:11
Speaker 9: my chances with the rest of it. You know, for me, Hancocks,
1:01:13
Speaker 9: the guy who struggled with that, you know, I become
1:01:16
Speaker 9: coming he was you mentioned the pedigree coming out of Georgia.
1:01:19
Speaker 14: I believe it was.
1:01:20
Speaker 9: I know it was dancing and he just would come
1:01:24
Speaker 9: up and he'd look very good at times because this
1:01:25
Speaker 9: stuff is major lea quality, but you know, you're just
1:01:28
Speaker 9: walking too many guys, and he's taken that out of
1:01:30
Speaker 9: his gate.
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Speaker 14: He mentioned the sweeper the other day.
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Speaker 9: I didn't think coming into this season that he would
1:01:37
Speaker 9: be able to hold off Bryce Miller. And of course
1:01:40
Speaker 9: now I think you're talking about the question is you know,
1:01:41
Speaker 9: did they go to a six man when Miller's ready?
1:01:43
Speaker 2: Do they shit?
1:01:45
Speaker 9: You know, Luis Castill. There was some talk on our slack,
1:01:49
Speaker 9: the newsletter slack aby who might go to the bullpen?
1:01:51
Speaker 9: And I'm thinking maybe Castillo. Maybe you take him and
1:01:54
Speaker 9: you say, what can you do for me in a
1:01:56
Speaker 9: two inning.
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Speaker 14: Role out of that bullpen?
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Speaker 9: So we'll still wait to see how that's going to go.
1:01:59
Speaker 9: But I don't you can take Hancock.
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Speaker 14: Out of the legation at this point.
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Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Infnest talking to Joe Shean, you
1:02:07
Speaker 1: mentioned Castillo, and I do think he looked better in
1:02:11
Speaker 1: that last start, but you know, the overall results have
1:02:15
Speaker 1: been very much wanting concerns about Luis Castillo. It's interesting
1:02:20
Speaker 1: because I've talked about this before. While Luis Castillo has
1:02:24
Speaker 1: been a very successful pitcher, and I can't write off
1:02:26
Speaker 1: a guy just based off you know, six seven starts
1:02:29
Speaker 1: of not.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: Being where he usually is.
1:02:33
Speaker 1: He does feel like the type of guy that is
1:02:35
Speaker 1: going to have a rather steep decline because of the
1:02:39
Speaker 1: fact that he generates so little extension. How do you
1:02:43
Speaker 1: think Luis Castillo's stuff would play up if he was
1:02:47
Speaker 1: to make that move to the bullpen.
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Speaker 9: Well, the hope is that he goes and finds a
1:02:51
Speaker 9: two miles an hour that he's been missing to back.
1:02:54
Speaker 9: It's pretty much just been a steady movie a half
1:02:56
Speaker 9: quick a season and that's you know, and asal, I'm
1:03:00
Speaker 9: throwing his fastball more. They talked about this with the
1:03:02
Speaker 9: end last week. It's kind of a strange thing that's
1:03:04
Speaker 9: off less effective now throwing it more often. I think
1:03:07
Speaker 9: you put him in the bull piece, say can you
1:03:08
Speaker 9: go back and find can you get back to ninety
1:03:10
Speaker 9: four out of the bullpen throwing, you know, twice a week.
1:03:13
Speaker 9: I'm not talking about turning into an ah inning guy.
1:03:14
Speaker 9: I really would like to see him in a multi
1:03:17
Speaker 9: inning type role and put him in a situation where
1:03:20
Speaker 9: you're gonna come in the sixth and you're going to
1:03:22
Speaker 9: pitch as.
1:03:22
Speaker 14: Long as you can.
1:03:23
Speaker 9: The Rockies, you're using it to only a set of
1:03:24
Speaker 9: the telligence way right now it comes to the assage stress.
1:03:27
Speaker 9: Using been ground this way until last night. So if
1:03:30
Speaker 9: I'm moving into the bullten, it's not the Burier, it's
1:03:33
Speaker 9: to try to use him to fill the absence, you know,
1:03:35
Speaker 9: Matt Rash, not really because Matt Brash is really a
1:03:38
Speaker 9: one inning guy, but trying to find somebody who can
1:03:40
Speaker 9: give you pitch a sixth and seventh in front of
1:03:42
Speaker 9: you know, Bizarto and Perrera mean, I think you can
1:03:45
Speaker 9: be that guy, but he's got to buy into it.
1:03:47
Speaker 9: Whose Castillo has always been a starting pitcher of his
1:03:49
Speaker 9: entire career. It's really it's hard to not present it
1:03:55
Speaker 9: as his emotion, right, and you really got to get
1:03:58
Speaker 9: buy in from the player he's going to do this.
1:04:01
Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and free in Fornaci. I think that's a
1:04:03
Speaker 1: really good point, and I'm just looking at these metrics.
1:04:06
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Luis Castillo. You know, the fastball velocity is
1:04:09
Speaker 1: still okay at ninety five miles per hour, but maybe
1:04:11
Speaker 1: you do get up to that ninety seven ninety eight.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: So you mentioned JP Crawford and you know, of course
1:04:17
Speaker 1: Anders and I railed on JP Crawford in his defense
1:04:20
Speaker 1: and you know, he didn't make a big defensive play,
1:04:22
Speaker 1: but he does hit.
1:04:23
Speaker 2: That huge homer.
1:04:24
Speaker 1: And you know, the plate skills of JP Crawford have
1:04:27
Speaker 1: never been questioned. This is a guy who draws a
1:04:29
Speaker 1: ton of walks, fouls off pitches, doesn't usually swing at
1:04:33
Speaker 1: pitches outside of the strike zone.
1:04:35
Speaker 2: Anders and I talked about this a little bit earlier.
1:04:37
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of guys who probably
1:04:39
Speaker 1: profile best at designated hitter for the Seattle Mariners. JP
1:04:43
Speaker 1: Crawford can still be a valuable player if he was
1:04:46
Speaker 1: to move in a DH role. In Colt Emerson, they
1:04:49
Speaker 1: deemed ready to play shortstop. Do you agree with that.
1:04:51
Speaker 9: Joe, I moved at the roster and I just think
1:04:55
Speaker 9: Crawford's like this third best left hand in dah option.
1:04:59
Speaker 9: I that's the best use for him. I mean, I
1:05:02
Speaker 9: would love to see him as the fourth, as a
1:05:03
Speaker 9: fifth pie, I mean, I I'm talking about I wanted
1:05:06
Speaker 9: Emerson up Dune of his struggles to play at consistent
1:05:10
Speaker 9: third base start of the year. You could could you
1:05:12
Speaker 9: move Crawford over. I would like to see that you
1:05:15
Speaker 9: move Crawford over, let him play third, maybe platoons. It's
1:05:18
Speaker 9: not fairly a natural platoon on the roster because they didn't.
1:05:21
Speaker 9: I think both Joe and Res Snyder have played third
1:05:24
Speaker 9: base at some point, but I.
1:05:24
Speaker 14: Doubt you heard that was either one of them.
1:05:26
Speaker 9: Now, Uh, it's it's an awkward roster. I just and
1:05:31
Speaker 9: he is. It's hard because you Crawford was at one
1:05:35
Speaker 9: time a good defensive shortstop, and we can talk about
1:05:38
Speaker 9: this was last fall, though he's he's turning the team there.
1:05:40
Speaker 9: And of course there's the Emerson question. I don't really
1:05:43
Speaker 9: like the idea of moving Emerson to third base when
1:05:45
Speaker 9: he's going to be your shortstop next year. Anyway, I
1:05:47
Speaker 9: would rather just rip the band aid off, plug in
1:05:50
Speaker 9: Emerson at shortstop, and ask Crawford, you know, are you
1:05:54
Speaker 9: Is he a guy who's considered to be a leader.
1:05:56
Speaker 14: If so, this is the moment to lead. I lived
1:05:58
Speaker 14: through the Derek Jeter Ali. I read this here in Well.
1:06:01
Speaker 14: I wasn't in New York at.
1:06:02
Speaker 9: The time, but this guy who was supposed to be
1:06:04
Speaker 9: such a leader wouldn't actually move off the position and
1:06:07
Speaker 9: considered his even though a better player and much of
1:06:09
Speaker 9: a defensive player was coming on. I find I always
1:06:11
Speaker 9: find this to be the moment where we learned, Okay,
1:06:14
Speaker 9: are you about the team and putting the best team
1:06:16
Speaker 9: on the field, or are you best protecting a.
1:06:17
Speaker 1: Church Chris Crawford and free in Fornes stoking to Joe Shean,
1:06:22
Speaker 1: So one of these saving graces for the Mariners season
1:06:26
Speaker 1: this year and early it is. But you just take
1:06:29
Speaker 1: a look at the American League and outside of New
1:06:32
Speaker 1: York and Tampa Bay, Uh, surprisingly, everyone in the American
1:06:37
Speaker 1: League kind of stinks, Joe, Like.
1:06:38
Speaker 2: What's going on?
1:06:39
Speaker 1: Is this a is this a case of just too
1:06:42
Speaker 1: small of a sample size to really take it seriously?
1:06:45
Speaker 1: But you know, I look at some of these rosters too, Joe,
1:06:48
Speaker 1: and I see an awful lot of flaws. Even with
1:06:50
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the race, I definitely see I definitely
1:06:52
Speaker 1: see flaws with the Tampa Bay Rays. But the American
1:06:55
Speaker 1: League it's just kind of a disaster right now.
1:06:58
Speaker 9: Well, that's always going to be the because of an
1:07:00
Speaker 9: early play. You are going to have that some on
1:07:02
Speaker 9: the scale. Now, leagues are not going to some to
1:07:05
Speaker 9: five hundred this year. The National League is ninety four
1:07:07
Speaker 9: and seventy three, which they made the map on the
1:07:10
Speaker 9: air for fifty five.
1:07:13
Speaker 14: So they're just a blue You guys are still mad
1:07:18
Speaker 14: about that. I was talking about this earlier on different here.
1:07:24
Speaker 14: I kind of want to throw something out there.
1:07:25
Speaker 9: If you go through the last twenty five years, the
1:07:28
Speaker 9: straight through the league does kind of bounce back and forth,
1:07:30
Speaker 9: and I think it's set by the teams at the top.
1:07:32
Speaker 9: They go back to the early the early part of
1:07:35
Speaker 9: this century, and you had the Yankee Dynasty, and you
1:07:37
Speaker 9: had the Moneyball A's, and you had the John Henry
1:07:40
Speaker 9: Red Sox, and you had the Angels back where they
1:07:41
Speaker 9: were a functioning organization. They were raising the level for
1:07:44
Speaker 9: everybody else. And now we're in a time where the
1:07:48
Speaker 9: National League teams are the ones really setting the pace.
1:07:51
Speaker 14: You've got the Dodgers and the Mets.
1:07:52
Speaker 9: Not successful, but they're obviously putting a lot of money
1:07:54
Speaker 9: into their team. You've got the Cubs, who were kind
1:07:57
Speaker 9: of moving into this more dominant mode. The brain he
1:08:00
Speaker 9: had been strong for a while, the Phillies have been
1:08:01
Speaker 9: strong for a while, the Padres, the top teams in
1:08:04
Speaker 9: the National League are leggetting the bar for everybody else,
1:08:07
Speaker 9: so everybody else has got to get better. I really
1:08:09
Speaker 9: think that this isn't just a mastering. I think the
1:08:13
Speaker 9: National League is significantly better than the American.
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Speaker 1: The Grand Chris Crawford and Free in fornaz talking to
1:08:19
Speaker 1: Joe sheian So speaking of Atlanta.
1:08:22
Speaker 2: The team Seattle is playing right now has gotten off
1:08:24
Speaker 2: to an.
1:08:24
Speaker 1: Excellent start, and one of the reasons for that excellent start,
1:08:27
Speaker 1: surprising to me, has been Bryce Elder, a guy who
1:08:31
Speaker 1: is going to pitch for Atlanta tonight, who's been excellent
1:08:34
Speaker 1: this year.
1:08:34
Speaker 2: A one point eight eight era, a one point zero five.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: Whip, A guy who has not had a whole hell
1:08:40
Speaker 1: of a lot of success in the major leagues outside
1:08:42
Speaker 1: of his twenty twenty three campaign. Has Bryce Elder changed
1:08:46
Speaker 1: or is this a case of a guy who has
1:08:48
Speaker 1: had some really fortunate results to begin the year.
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Speaker 14: It's a little bit of ball.
1:08:53
Speaker 9: He's doing a better job of being the pitcher he
1:08:55
Speaker 9: needs to be with a stuffyang. He's not somebody who
1:08:57
Speaker 9: throws terribly hard. It's really a sinker slider guy.
1:09:00
Speaker 14: I don't think we even use that term anymore.
1:09:01
Speaker 9: But the locations have been so much better this year.
1:09:04
Speaker 9: I've watched a decent number of starts with the newsletter
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Speaker 9: I do a gaming side newsletter, and for three or
1:09:11
Speaker 9: four years now, I've just been picking against Bryce Elder
1:09:14
Speaker 9: just automatically, and of course that has gone very well
1:09:16
Speaker 9: this year, So I didn't watching a lot of the starts,
1:09:18
Speaker 9: and just the locations are fantastic. Now, that's the kind
1:09:21
Speaker 9: of guy he can be. He's more of a three
1:09:23
Speaker 9: or four. I've projected him as a five or six.
1:09:25
Speaker 9: Certainly been a big part of me brave success, given
1:09:28
Speaker 9: that every other starter he has gotten hurt. Can he
1:09:31
Speaker 9: sustain it at this level of bucket ed or or
1:09:33
Speaker 9: whatever it is? And today, No, that's not who he is.
1:09:37
Speaker 9: But I do think the combination of things, one, the
1:09:40
Speaker 9: somewhat deader ball that we've been playing with the last
1:09:42
Speaker 9: couple of years helps guys like this. And I'm thinking
1:09:44
Speaker 9: of telling you, if you Sadana, I'm thinking of Jack
1:09:46
Speaker 9: o'conna went to then on these pitchers who don't have
1:09:49
Speaker 9: brief stuff and have to get outcomes on bad involved
1:09:53
Speaker 9: to make it work. Elder is certainly one of those guys.
1:09:55
Speaker 9: So he's certainly he's been helped by that. We'll see
1:09:57
Speaker 9: what happens is the weather warms up at the baseball
1:09:59
Speaker 9: from the baseball changes. But the last two years the
1:10:02
Speaker 9: baseball have been consistently high drag baseball, which is to say,
1:10:06
Speaker 9: when you hit them, they don't go very far. So
1:10:08
Speaker 9: Elder is pitching at the right time for his skill set.
1:10:12
Speaker 2: Joe is Drake Baldwin the best catcher in baseball.
1:10:14
Speaker 9: Right now, he's the best player in baseball last Oh, okay, okay,
1:10:21
Speaker 9: it's been a lot of watch and you know, it's
1:10:24
Speaker 9: weird time when catchers are not expected to hit. It's
1:10:28
Speaker 9: almost like, if you can hit, we're going to move
1:10:30
Speaker 9: you off of catcher. We've talked about the Nichols law
1:10:31
Speaker 9: catch a defense a thousand years ago, where if you hit,
1:10:34
Speaker 9: we just decided you couldn't play defense.
1:10:36
Speaker 14: Now we have better.
1:10:37
Speaker 9: Metrics to catch a defense now, but generally speaking, you know,
1:10:40
Speaker 9: the model for catching is can you frame? And everything
1:10:44
Speaker 9: else's secondary attertionary. And now we have a catcher and
1:10:47
Speaker 9: Drake Baldwin comes up and it's a three D with
1:10:50
Speaker 9: walks an hour, it's a weapon. Like if you can
1:10:54
Speaker 9: get that kind of production out of the catch response.
1:10:57
Speaker 9: And you know, Baldwin doesn't get a lot of heat
1:10:59
Speaker 9: for his receiving, his framing anything like that, but he
1:11:02
Speaker 9: certainly adequate back there. Nobody that everybody has to have
1:11:06
Speaker 9: Austin Hedges back there, and everybody has to have Patrick
1:11:08
Speaker 9: family back there. But the advantage he did to plate
1:11:10
Speaker 9: having this one twenty oh ps plus guy up there,
1:11:13
Speaker 9: left handed back into all fields. Really just a wonderful hitter.
1:11:18
Speaker 9: So that's a huge advantage for the Braze. Actually hit
1:11:20
Speaker 9: lead off in the absence of the tune.
1:11:21
Speaker 14: At the other day.
1:11:22
Speaker 9: I worry a little bit about the playing time. It
1:11:25
Speaker 9: worked in very hard. They set Sean Murphy back, but
1:11:27
Speaker 9: it does seem like Baldman is going to be dah
1:11:29
Speaker 9: on days where he doesn't catch. You know, I don't
1:11:32
Speaker 9: tell Maratis Stands what that looks like. But that's how
1:11:34
Speaker 9: good a hitter has become. So it's really a great story.
1:11:37
Speaker 9: It's a fun team and of course it's the holiday
1:11:39
Speaker 9: as far as Revet series, so that'll be one of
1:11:43
Speaker 9: the big storylines this week. The one thing I would
1:11:46
Speaker 9: I would watch is he saw a little bit of
1:11:48
Speaker 9: this last night.
1:11:49
Speaker 14: The bulks that are shaking.
1:11:49
Speaker 9: They're getting a glaciers back tonight, I believe. But I
1:11:53
Speaker 9: did the sixth to the eighth, sixth to the Knights.
1:11:56
Speaker 14: For that thing.
1:11:56
Speaker 9: Robert Torres and we gets the back and glaciates the back.
1:12:00
Speaker 9: That's where you can get to them. So yeah, you're
1:12:03
Speaker 9: knock an elder out, You're not gonna uh sail out
1:12:06
Speaker 9: and there's an opportunity to beat them in the middle
1:12:08
Speaker 9: of next.
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Speaker 2: Joe, thanks for slumming with me.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you being willing to talk to one of
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Speaker 1: the little people promote all of the awesome work that
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Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and free infinites. But you know what Ian's
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Speaker 1: not the only one who's allowed to talk about hockey.
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Speaker 1: Anders and I can talk about hockey. And today is
1:13:31
Speaker 1: a really big day for the Seattle Kraken. And you
1:13:34
Speaker 1: may be saying, Christopher Vincent Crawford, how can it be
1:13:37
Speaker 1: a big day? They're not even playing. Well, today's the
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Speaker 1: draft lottery. And for those who are unfamiliar with how
1:13:43
Speaker 1: draft lottery works, you take the teams he didn't make
1:13:45
Speaker 1: the postseason. You've got some ping pong balls, and it's
1:13:48
Speaker 1: a chance for you to either move up or move
1:13:51
Speaker 1: down in the draft. So if everything stays the same,
1:13:54
Speaker 1: and you know there's a chance of that, then the
1:13:57
Speaker 1: cracket will end up with the sixth pick. They have
1:14:00
Speaker 1: a seven point five percent chance of getting that number
1:14:04
Speaker 1: one overall pick. Vancouver number one, Odds number two, Chicago
1:14:08
Speaker 1: number three, the New York Rangers. If you're curious, some
1:14:12
Speaker 1: of those guys that you should be paying attention to
1:14:14
Speaker 1: for the class. Number one prospect by a long shot
1:14:17
Speaker 1: is Gavin McKenna, a left winging out of Penn State
1:14:20
Speaker 1: who scored fifty one points in his forty thirty five games.
1:14:23
Speaker 1: But Evar Stenberg A believe he's out of Switzerland Sweden Anders,
1:14:30
Speaker 1: which one.
1:14:31
Speaker 4: A prospect guy, Swedish hockey player.
1:14:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Swedish hockey player. Yeah, you know, they're all the
1:14:37
Speaker 1: same to me. He's thirty three points in forty three games,
1:14:41
Speaker 1: but he's considered one of the best offensive players in
1:14:44
Speaker 1: the class. There's some really good defenseman like Keaton Verhoff,
1:14:48
Speaker 1: Chase Reid. It's a considered a good draft class. But Anders,
1:14:53
Speaker 1: We've talked about this a heck of a lot. Yes,
1:14:55
Speaker 1: we have the Seattle Kraken need to start acquiring some
1:14:59
Speaker 1: emper echelon town. And you know, at seven point five percent,
1:15:03
Speaker 1: chance of getting that number one pick is not great,
1:15:06
Speaker 1: but you bet you're sweet, Bippy, then I'm gonna be
1:15:08
Speaker 1: watching that draft lottery.
1:15:09
Speaker 2: And opening for the best today.
1:15:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, because getting a guy like a Gavin McKenna to
1:15:13
Speaker 1: add to the organization it's huge. You've seen what has
1:15:17
Speaker 1: happened with Maclin Celebrini, and you've see what happened with
1:15:21
Speaker 1: the Oilers when they got Connor McDavid. And I'm not
1:15:24
Speaker 1: even comparing mckennit to those players, but that notch below
1:15:28
Speaker 1: can still lead to an awful.
1:15:30
Speaker 2: Lot of success.
1:15:31
Speaker 1: Chicago's paths with Connor Bedard is sure a lot easier
1:15:34
Speaker 1: to predict success for them going forward. Man, they could
1:15:39
Speaker 1: really use some really good luck tonight.
1:15:41
Speaker 12: Yeah.
1:15:41
Speaker 4: I think Gavin McKenna is kind of an interesting one
1:15:44
Speaker 4: because if you look at the last few years, last
1:15:47
Speaker 4: year's number one overall pick, Matthew Schaeffer, started immediately in
1:15:50
Speaker 4: the NHL and was one of the best defensemen in
1:15:55
Speaker 4: in hockey already at age eighteen. The year before that
1:16:00
Speaker 4: was Maclin Celebriney, we know how good he is. He's
1:16:02
Speaker 4: already one hundred plus point guy. Connor Bedard actually out
1:16:06
Speaker 4: of those three, was the highest rated prospect, but he's
1:16:09
Speaker 4: probably out of those three that had the slowest start.
1:16:12
Speaker 4: But even he has had very good years for a
1:16:15
Speaker 4: bad Chicago team. But then the year before that was
1:16:19
Speaker 4: the year the Krack and got Shane Wright. And it's
1:16:22
Speaker 4: funny that, you know, the two years the krack Can
1:16:24
Speaker 4: have had top five picks are probably the two weakest
1:16:27
Speaker 4: drafts in the last six years. So there's a little
1:16:31
Speaker 4: bit of luck involved with this, obviously when you're talking
1:16:33
Speaker 4: about ping pong balls. But I think Gavin McKenna is
1:16:36
Speaker 4: closer to the Badard Celebrini Schaeffer than he is the
1:16:40
Speaker 4: you know your I s Levkovski which was the Shane
1:16:42
Speaker 4: Right year and the Owen Power which was the one
1:16:45
Speaker 4: from the Matty Beniers year. So I think this could
1:16:49
Speaker 4: be in franchise altering day if all goes well. Are
1:16:51
Speaker 4: you a conspiracy theorist Chris Crawford when it comes to lotteries?
1:16:55
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you are absolutely, And you know I have been.
1:16:59
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen enough things go the not way
1:17:05
Speaker 1: that I want to see. From the Sonics with ping
1:17:07
Speaker 1: pong balls, a team that never got the first pick
1:17:10
Speaker 1: did get the second pick, which was actually good luck
1:17:12
Speaker 1: because they got Kevin Durant instead of Greg Oden. Imagine
1:17:15
Speaker 1: how different things are if it goes the other way around.
1:17:18
Speaker 3: Changes though, because we had them for one year and
1:17:21
Speaker 3: then left.
1:17:21
Speaker 1: Yes, a thousand percent, but hey, like, what are we
1:17:24
Speaker 1: talking about the Thunder becoming the dynasty they are if.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: They take Greg Oden instead of a Kevin Durant. Gosh,
1:17:31
Speaker 2: I hate even mentioning that team's name, but it's going
1:17:35
Speaker 2: to be a fascinating thing.
1:17:36
Speaker 1: So there's this cool website called Tankathon, and what they
1:17:39
Speaker 1: do is they give you the current draft odds, but
1:17:43
Speaker 1: they also give you something fun and they allow you
1:17:46
Speaker 1: to simulate the lottery and to show you what could
1:17:50
Speaker 1: happen with the ping pong balls. So, Andrews, I'm going
1:17:52
Speaker 1: to ask you a question, and then I'm gonna I'm
1:17:54
Speaker 1: gonna simulate the lottery while you're answering, and then we'll
1:17:58
Speaker 1: I'll give you what those results will be and see
1:17:59
Speaker 1: how how close it actually comes. My question for you
1:18:02
Speaker 1: is we talked yesterday about the goalie switch. Yes, for
1:18:06
Speaker 1: the whild they end up making that switch for game two.
1:18:11
Speaker 1: Is this something that should have happened in the second
1:18:13
Speaker 1: period rather than the start of the second game.
1:18:17
Speaker 3: I think so.
1:18:17
Speaker 4: I think it would have been the right move to
1:18:20
Speaker 4: go to Gustufsin in the middle of a game where
1:18:22
Speaker 4: you clearly didn't have it. Now, the caveat to that
1:18:25
Speaker 4: would be usually you did make the goalie switch if
1:18:29
Speaker 4: the game's already lost, but the game was such a
1:18:31
Speaker 4: high scoring game on both sides that you could argue, oh,
1:18:33
Speaker 4: we were still in the game.
1:18:35
Speaker 3: But there have been instances where you make.
1:18:36
Speaker 4: The goalie change in a one goal game, but it's
1:18:38
Speaker 4: because he can't stop anything, and it's like, all right,
1:18:40
Speaker 4: he just it's not his day or whatever. So I
1:18:42
Speaker 4: would have done that, and it would have probably saved
1:18:44
Speaker 4: a little bit of confidence from yesper Walstat, you have
1:18:47
Speaker 4: the option to go to Gustafsen.
1:18:48
Speaker 3: If he's good, you can stick with him.
1:18:50
Speaker 4: If he's not good, you can go back to Walstat,
1:18:52
Speaker 4: being like, hey, we just pulled you out of the
1:18:53
Speaker 4: game just because it wasn't your day, but we still
1:18:56
Speaker 4: view you as a number one guy. Now they've made
1:18:58
Speaker 4: the goalie change for game two, and it all of
1:19:01
Speaker 4: a sudden seems like, you know, they if gust have
1:19:05
Speaker 4: sinned the second goal who hasn't played yet, struggles, then
1:19:08
Speaker 4: you have to go back to Walstat. But you already
1:19:10
Speaker 4: kind of ruined his confidence by taking him out. So
1:19:12
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just didn't seem like the right
1:19:14
Speaker 4: play there. But there's different ways to go about it.
1:19:19
Speaker 4: So I send the lottery, Okay, which way do you
1:19:22
Speaker 4: want me to go? Do you want me to go
1:19:24
Speaker 4: seven to one?
1:19:25
Speaker 2: Seven to one?
1:19:26
Speaker 1: Well, seven to one to unfortunate because the Seattle Kraken
1:19:29
Speaker 1: end up with the seventh pick.
1:19:32
Speaker 2: The Boston Bruins get the sixth.
1:19:35
Speaker 1: Pick because of a trade they meet with the Just
1:19:38
Speaker 1: A Great franchise, The Toronto Maple Leafs who just don't
1:19:40
Speaker 1: make any mistakes whatsoever.
1:19:43
Speaker 2: The fifth pick goes to the Calgary Flames. They drop
1:19:47
Speaker 2: down one spot. Chicago drops down two spots to fourth.
1:19:52
Speaker 1: The third pick goes to the Vancouver Canucks, who are
1:19:55
Speaker 1: the team with the best odds for the first overall pick.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: And if you believe and the David Stern and Gary
1:20:03
Speaker 1: Bettman conspiracies, boy, this lottery would get you going there.
1:20:07
Speaker 1: Because the second pick goes to the Nashville Predators. They
1:20:11
Speaker 1: move up eight spots and guess who one's up with
1:20:14
Speaker 1: the number one pick?
1:20:16
Speaker 3: How does that leave the Florida Panthers, the New.
1:20:19
Speaker 2: York gosh dang Rangers the number one.
1:20:25
Speaker 3: That would only move up like what three spots for them?
1:20:27
Speaker 2: Two spots.
1:20:28
Speaker 1: So it's definitely a realistic thing. But I could definitely
1:20:31
Speaker 1: see some people being if Toronto or Toronto excuse me,
1:20:36
Speaker 1: or New York gets the number one overall.
1:20:38
Speaker 2: Pick, there will be some people who are.
1:20:42
Speaker 1: Matter than a wet hen because they will be some
1:20:45
Speaker 1: people who are questioning what happens here, because, like you know,
1:20:51
Speaker 1: putting a player. Gavin mckinnatt is one of the most
1:20:54
Speaker 1: famous hockey prospects because of how good he has been
1:20:59
Speaker 1: as a amateur player. He may not be in the
1:21:02
Speaker 1: McDavid and your Sydney Crosby type discussions, but he's been
1:21:07
Speaker 1: famous for a very long time and would be a
1:21:11
Speaker 1: guy who sells, especially in a market like New York.
1:21:14
Speaker 2: So here's hoping this is wrong.
1:21:16
Speaker 1: But my simulation has the New York Rangers getting the
1:21:19
Speaker 1: first pick and then Nashville moves up eight spots to
1:21:22
Speaker 1: get the second pick.
1:21:23
Speaker 2: That would be definitely something to an eye on me.
1:21:27
Speaker 3: That's the way it is.
1:21:28
Speaker 4: I don't see much of a conspiracy because Okay, to me,
1:21:31
Speaker 4: I think the where those conversations come in a little
1:21:35
Speaker 4: bit are like, Okay, we're trying to supplement something that
1:21:40
Speaker 4: you did for the league. Like the best example would
1:21:43
Speaker 4: be Dallas trading away Luka Doncic to the Lakers and
1:21:45
Speaker 4: then okay, we're gonna give you the number one pick
1:21:47
Speaker 4: as a consolation prize. So similar to that, The New
1:21:52
Speaker 4: York Islanders last year were in that same discussion because
1:21:56
Speaker 4: the NHL took away the All Star Game two can
1:22:00
Speaker 4: executive years from what would have been in their building,
1:22:03
Speaker 4: and uh, they were gifted with an am one Ovall
1:22:08
Speaker 4: pick jumping like ten spots or something like that, and
1:22:10
Speaker 4: it was Matthew Schaeffer. So there's thoughts that, hey, the
1:22:14
Speaker 4: NHL really wants Seattle to be successful. They know they
1:22:18
Speaker 4: need a star, and they're you know, Samantha Holloway, the
1:22:23
Speaker 4: owner of the Seattle Crack, and Gary Bettman seemed to
1:22:26
Speaker 4: have a good relationship, let me put it that way.
1:22:28
Speaker 4: So maybe there's like a little handshake under the table
1:22:32
Speaker 4: sort of thing that that'll happen.
1:22:34
Speaker 2: I won't complain about it one bit, not at all.
1:22:36
Speaker 1: One not at all, because they just they just got
1:22:39
Speaker 1: to start getting that up echelon town. If you're interested
1:22:41
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1:24:45
Speaker 8: Crawford in for.
1:24:46
Speaker 1: Andrew and As and I get the chance to talk
1:24:48
Speaker 1: to a buddy of mine, Corbyn Smith, who covers this
1:24:51
Speaker 1: team as well as anyone.
1:24:52
Speaker 2: Corbyn, my friend, how are you doing.
1:24:54
Speaker 9: I'm good, Chris.
1:24:56
Speaker 12: Great to chat with you.
1:24:57
Speaker 1: Great to chat with you as well. I hope you're
1:24:59
Speaker 1: in joining this weather. I hope you're having some fun,
1:25:03
Speaker 1: and I hope you're enjoying that. The Seahawks make a
1:25:04
Speaker 1: little transition transaction one that I think was kind of
1:25:09
Speaker 1: in the cards for a little while now, but Dante
1:25:11
Speaker 1: Fowler basically officially joining the Seattle Seahawks on a one year,
1:25:15
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal.
1:25:17
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Fouler and your thoughts on how he
1:25:19
Speaker 2: fits into this defense.
1:25:22
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is as you mentioned, it has been a
1:25:24
Speaker 12: move that's felt like it's been kind of waiting to
1:25:27
Speaker 12: happen here for the last several weeks. He visited two
1:25:30
Speaker 12: weeks before the draft and was at the facility and
1:25:34
Speaker 12: from my understanding at that point, made it very clear
1:25:36
Speaker 12: to the Seahawks that this is where he wanted to be.
1:25:39
Speaker 12: He wanted to be a Seahawk, and they get it
1:25:42
Speaker 12: done now here after rookie Mini camp. This is usually
1:25:45
Speaker 12: a sweet spot where you're going to start to see
1:25:47
Speaker 12: some guys signing because OTAs are going to be coming
1:25:50
Speaker 12: up soon and teams want to get their guys under contract.
1:25:53
Speaker 12: Vets aren't always in a rush to do that this
1:25:55
Speaker 12: time of year, because you know, they would rather bypass
1:25:58
Speaker 12: a lot of the offseason stuff and just get to
1:26:01
Speaker 12: the games. But this is a really, really good fit
1:26:05
Speaker 12: because you know, Mike McDonald didn't have to go far
1:26:08
Speaker 12: to get an assessment on what Dante Fowler Junior can
1:26:12
Speaker 12: bring this team. All he had to do was just
1:26:14
Speaker 12: look at his defensive coordinator, Adm Dirday. ADM Dirday coached
1:26:17
Speaker 12: him for two years in Dallas, and he had two
1:26:19
Speaker 12: really solid seasons in Dallas on winning football teams that
1:26:23
Speaker 12: got to the playoffs. So Adam Dirday clearly signed off
1:26:26
Speaker 12: on this, like, hey, this is a good addition for us.
1:26:29
Speaker 12: And also DeMarcus Lawrence another had been speculation about his future.
1:26:32
Speaker 12: I fully expect he's going to be there this year.
1:26:35
Speaker 12: But he and Dante Fowler Junior have a pretty good
1:26:38
Speaker 12: connection from those couple of seasons they played together in
1:26:41
Speaker 12: Dallas as well. So Mike McDonald didn't have to go
1:26:44
Speaker 12: far to get an evaluation. And these guys in the
1:26:47
Speaker 12: fit as far as where he can fit in scheme wise,
1:26:50
Speaker 12: they've already seen that with Adam Dirday coaching him in Dallas.
1:26:53
Speaker 12: So ideal guy to bring in to replace Boy Mafe
1:26:56
Speaker 12: And honestly, he had better numbers than Boy Mafe last
1:26:58
Speaker 12: year in a fewer snap role with the Dallas Cowboys
1:27:03
Speaker 12: and what Boy Mafe had in Seattle.
1:27:06
Speaker 1: Gorvin Smith joining us, is this just kind of a
1:27:08
Speaker 1: straight swamp or is Faler a guy who could give
1:27:12
Speaker 1: you know, a few different guys not necessarily you know,
1:27:15
Speaker 1: we'll see exactly what the role is.
1:27:17
Speaker 2: But is this a guy who.
1:27:18
Speaker 1: Can play both as a guy who is standing up,
1:27:21
Speaker 1: a guy who can line up in the three point stands.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: What type of role do you think Dante Fowler is
1:27:27
Speaker 1: going to fill.
1:27:29
Speaker 12: I think he is a one for one exchange for
1:27:32
Speaker 12: boy MafA. He's at his best when he's in a
1:27:35
Speaker 12: two point stance and he can just pin his ears
1:27:38
Speaker 12: back get up field. He's a twitchy rusher that's got
1:27:42
Speaker 12: good bend at the top to round the tackles, get
1:27:45
Speaker 12: after the quarterback. You can drop him back into coverage
1:27:48
Speaker 12: a little bit.
1:27:49
Speaker 8: See.
1:27:49
Speaker 12: He gives me some versatility with your zone blitzer game.
1:27:52
Speaker 12: He's never been a great run defender, though last year,
1:27:56
Speaker 12: I mean, for whatever pro football focused grades are worth,
1:27:59
Speaker 12: he had one of his finest seasons last year defending
1:28:02
Speaker 12: the run. So he's been hit and miss with that.
1:28:05
Speaker 12: That's not really the strength of his game. It's not
1:28:07
Speaker 12: an effort issue. But he is a rushing specialist. I
1:28:11
Speaker 12: think for the Seahawks team, that gives them some of
1:28:14
Speaker 12: that quick winning some of that quick win capability. Is
1:28:18
Speaker 12: that boy Mafe has shown in the past that now
1:28:21
Speaker 12: is in Cincinnati.
1:28:23
Speaker 1: So Corvin, you take a look at those stats and
1:28:25
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, he's a guy who had ten
1:28:28
Speaker 1: and a half sacks but hit the quarterback twelve times
1:28:31
Speaker 1: last year only, And you can't see what I'm doing
1:28:34
Speaker 1: the quotation marks here those three sacks but hits the
1:28:37
Speaker 1: quarterback ten times. Can you kind of talk about how
1:28:40
Speaker 1: much more important if you do feel it's more important
1:28:44
Speaker 1: that pressure stat is than necessarily the quarterback sacks.
1:28:49
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I look at this as kind of
1:28:51
Speaker 12: a trifold process when I'm evaluating pass rushers, and this
1:28:54
Speaker 12: is how I do it in the draft process too.
1:28:57
Speaker 12: And you got some other wrinkles in the draft you
1:28:59
Speaker 12: have to account for with competition and all those things.
1:29:01
Speaker 12: But I think that pass rush win rate is a
1:29:05
Speaker 12: significant one. I want to see how consistently that the
1:29:09
Speaker 12: guy beats his opponent across room, because that means you're
1:29:11
Speaker 12: getting yourselves You're getting yourself more chances to get after
1:29:14
Speaker 12: the QB if you're winning more often like that. So
1:29:18
Speaker 12: I look at the pass rush win rate. He had
1:29:20
Speaker 12: a higher pass rush win rate last year than boy
1:29:23
Speaker 12: mafe U, Chennanuosu and DeMarcus Lawrence. So that's one thing
1:29:26
Speaker 12: that is working in his favor. And you know, the
1:29:29
Speaker 12: pressure's aspect is important because again, that means you have
1:29:32
Speaker 12: more opportunities that you're getting back into the pocket. But
1:29:35
Speaker 12: there's so much subjectivity to that with the way that
1:29:37
Speaker 12: people will say, well, what quantifies a pressure, there's no
1:29:41
Speaker 12: subjectivity when you're looking at quarterback hits, and so that
1:29:45
Speaker 12: is a stat that I look at, probably more than
1:29:47
Speaker 12: any of them, like how often are you actually getting
1:29:50
Speaker 12: to the QB and laying a hit on him? And
1:29:53
Speaker 12: Fowler has been pretty good about that throughout the course
1:29:55
Speaker 12: of his career, even when he's been more of a
1:29:57
Speaker 12: situational guy in recent seasons, he turns those pressures into
1:30:02
Speaker 12: quarterback hits. And sacks can be a little bit more
1:30:05
Speaker 12: of a year to year thing, as he saw he
1:30:07
Speaker 12: had ten sacks two years ago only three last year,
1:30:09
Speaker 12: but he was arguably a more efficient pass rusher last
1:30:13
Speaker 12: year than what he was the year before. So I
1:30:16
Speaker 12: think you had to look at all those metrics and
1:30:17
Speaker 12: not just sacs when you're trying to evaluate.
1:30:20
Speaker 2: A player like this.
1:30:22
Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and Free and forness talking to Corbyn Smith.
1:30:25
Speaker 1: So you know, a big discussion has been the move
1:30:29
Speaker 1: of Riley Mills from defensive tackle to defensive end.
1:30:33
Speaker 2: Does this move.
1:30:34
Speaker 1: Change anything in terms of the Mills progression, and does
1:30:38
Speaker 1: this also take a little bit of pressure off of
1:30:40
Speaker 1: Mills to be more of a consistent, counted on performer
1:30:45
Speaker 1: now that you have someone like Fouler in the fold.
1:30:49
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I really don't think that's going to
1:30:52
Speaker 12: impact what he does for the Seahawks all that much.
1:30:54
Speaker 12: I mean, a defensive end in Mike McDonald's scheme can
1:30:57
Speaker 12: play a bunch of reps at the three tech. We
1:30:59
Speaker 12: see Leonard Williams do that all the time. So I
1:31:03
Speaker 12: think they'll still have times in past rushing downs where
1:31:06
Speaker 12: they might reduce him inside further. But three tech is
1:31:09
Speaker 12: that's really his bread and butter spot, and so it's
1:31:12
Speaker 12: going to allow him. I guess in theory by role placement,
1:31:16
Speaker 12: by title there that he's going to be playing the
1:31:18
Speaker 12: spot that he's best suited for, where his size is, athleticism,
1:31:22
Speaker 12: his strong hands, his power to the point of attack,
1:31:26
Speaker 12: those are going to be maximized playing that three tech
1:31:29
Speaker 12: position rather than having him play inside.
1:31:34
Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and for Ian Fernest talking to Corbyn Smith,
1:31:37
Speaker 1: one thing you forgot he went to Notre Dame, which
1:31:39
Speaker 1: automatically makes him a wonderful player and a wonderful human being.
1:31:44
Speaker 1: We just got to mention that one we can Corbett.
1:31:46
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, but I hate that. I'm a
1:31:49
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan. It's more of a curse than a blessing.
1:31:51
Speaker 1: But I am excited to see what Mills is going
1:31:54
Speaker 1: to do. Speaking of Mills and Fowler, do you believe
1:31:57
Speaker 1: that the really, more than anything else, is that one
1:32:02
Speaker 1: of the reasons why Seattle was able to quote unquote
1:32:06
Speaker 1: sort of ignore the addresser position in the early portion
1:32:09
Speaker 1: of the draft, that the fact that they were pretty
1:32:11
Speaker 1: sure that Faler was going to be coming in.
1:32:14
Speaker 12: I mean, I think it was a factor, but I
1:32:16
Speaker 12: don't think John Schneider ever goes into a draft they get, oh,
1:32:19
Speaker 12: I've got this hedge here, so I'm not gonna worry
1:32:22
Speaker 12: about picking this position. I think that you know the Seahawks,
1:32:26
Speaker 12: and when you look at the big board and the
1:32:27
Speaker 12: way things go, they tear off players and every team
1:32:30
Speaker 12: has their own way of doing this, but you tear
1:32:32
Speaker 12: off players, then you have tiers for position groups as well,
1:32:36
Speaker 12: and I just don't think that the board matched up
1:32:39
Speaker 12: with the way that their tears fell. Like pick thirty two, Hey,
1:32:43
Speaker 12: we might have a few guys that we look at
1:32:45
Speaker 12: as the thirty five to forty range, but they're not
1:32:47
Speaker 12: there at thirty two. We've got a couple of corners.
1:32:50
Speaker 12: If Chris Johnson falls to Seattle, I still contest that
1:32:53
Speaker 12: to who they pick. Miami trades up and got it
1:32:56
Speaker 12: Jarien Price. We really like this kid. He is in
1:32:59
Speaker 12: that thirty two or age. Automately, that was not a
1:33:02
Speaker 12: fit for them to pick an edge you get to
1:33:04
Speaker 12: the end of the second round. But Clark, in their opinion,
1:33:07
Speaker 12: was now standing value there at sixty four and two
1:33:10
Speaker 12: of the guys they really wanted our Mason Thomas and
1:33:12
Speaker 12: Derek Moore that likely were mid second round guys for
1:33:15
Speaker 12: them are long gone, so that didn't match up. So
1:33:19
Speaker 12: I think it's a combination of things. It's not that
1:33:22
Speaker 12: Seattle didn't have interest in picking it edge. I just
1:33:25
Speaker 12: think they felt like they didn't have to force it.
1:33:27
Speaker 12: Dante Fowler Junior gives them that edge rather than saying, oh,
1:33:31
Speaker 12: we just don't have to worry about picking one. They
1:33:33
Speaker 12: were gonna let the board come to them, and it
1:33:34
Speaker 12: just didn't at that position.
1:33:37
Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and Free in for Nas talking to Corbyn Smith.
1:33:40
Speaker 1: So rookie Minniecamp and a lot of talk about the
1:33:43
Speaker 1: usage of Jadarian Price, who also went to Notre Dame,
1:33:46
Speaker 1: by the way, pretty cold school known for producing good
1:33:49
Speaker 1: football players and quality human beings. I couldn't have gotten
1:33:52
Speaker 1: into Notre Dame if I tried, so I don't know
1:33:54
Speaker 1: why I'm talking about it in that regard, but Jadarian Price,
1:33:57
Speaker 1: I loved the pick. Really interesting to see that there's
1:34:01
Speaker 1: been kind of it sounds like a focus on the
1:34:04
Speaker 1: pass catching and the pass blocking. There you, obviously, as
1:34:08
Speaker 1: a guy who knows a lot about running backs and
1:34:10
Speaker 1: a guy who loves to study them, what did you
1:34:13
Speaker 1: see from him in Notre Dame that suggests to you
1:34:16
Speaker 1: that he's either going to be exceptional in that regard
1:34:19
Speaker 1: or maybe have a little bit of a rookie awakening
1:34:24
Speaker 1: at those two parts of the game.
1:34:27
Speaker 12: I think this is a too. You know, you've got
1:34:29
Speaker 12: two sides of the sword here. I think, on one hand,
1:34:32
Speaker 12: this is a guy that the limited pass catching opportunities
1:34:35
Speaker 12: that he had Chris, he was effective and he didn't
1:34:38
Speaker 12: drop passes. He was he looked confident in his hands.
1:34:43
Speaker 12: He's a hand catcher. He doesn't catch with his body,
1:34:45
Speaker 12: which you see a lot of running backs that unfortunately
1:34:48
Speaker 12: the other way around. He looks like a natural pass
1:34:51
Speaker 12: catcher to me, So I think he is a guy
1:34:53
Speaker 12: now not being in Jeremiah love Shadow that he's gonna
1:34:56
Speaker 12: have so many more opportunities to be a pass catcher
1:34:58
Speaker 12: in the NFL. So very optimistic on that and the
1:35:03
Speaker 12: past protection aspect. I have no doubt that jadariing Price
1:35:07
Speaker 12: is going to find a way to get much better
1:35:09
Speaker 12: at that. But I think that is where Tom mchannick,
1:35:12
Speaker 12: the new running back coach, is going to have his
1:35:14
Speaker 12: greatest battle right now in terms of getting him up
1:35:17
Speaker 12: to speed for the NFL, because he just didn't have
1:35:20
Speaker 12: a ton of opportunities to do that, and when he did,
1:35:22
Speaker 12: technique was not necessarily great. The efforts there. There are
1:35:27
Speaker 12: clearly some technical stuff they are going to have to
1:35:29
Speaker 12: clean up. And I say this, if your technique is
1:35:32
Speaker 12: off as a past protecting running back in the NFL,
1:35:35
Speaker 12: you are going to get exposed by NFL defenders. So
1:35:39
Speaker 12: that is going to be to me, that is the
1:35:41
Speaker 12: one thing I'm looking at, like, Okay, I don't know
1:35:44
Speaker 12: about three down back. Is he ready to be that
1:35:46
Speaker 12: guy just yet? Because I have to see tangible evidence
1:35:49
Speaker 12: that he is going to take big leaps in that regard.
1:35:52
Speaker 12: From a limited tape, there is a watch at Notre.
1:35:55
Speaker 1: Dame Chris Crawford and Free and Forness talking to Corbyn's sman.
1:36:00
Speaker 1: So you got a chance to see some of these
1:36:01
Speaker 1: guys on the field outside of Price perhaps who stood
1:36:05
Speaker 1: out for you over these few days.
1:36:07
Speaker 12: Well for a little over somebody that just stood out
1:36:09
Speaker 12: like a needle in a haystack, Devin Eastern, the seventh
1:36:13
Speaker 12: rounder out of Minnesota, Like just every other defensive tackle
1:36:18
Speaker 12: over there, he was just making them look like dwarfs
1:36:20
Speaker 12: over there, like he is every bit six five and
1:36:24
Speaker 12: a half sixty six, and he has got vulture wings
1:36:28
Speaker 12: for arms like You just don't see many those tackles
1:36:30
Speaker 12: that are built like that, that have those really long
1:36:34
Speaker 12: levers and are tall. That can be an issue when
1:36:37
Speaker 12: you're looking at the leverage battle of man. If you
1:36:39
Speaker 12: use your length properly in there, that can cause all
1:36:43
Speaker 12: kinds of problems for centers and guards. I am very
1:36:46
Speaker 12: intrigued to see what Adam Durday, Mike McDonald the rest
1:36:50
Speaker 12: of his staff tried to do with this kid. Because
1:36:52
Speaker 12: there's there's enough splash plays in his Minnesota tape to
1:36:55
Speaker 12: make me wonder, man, if you could just find a
1:36:58
Speaker 12: little bit more consistency with hand technique taking on doubles,
1:37:02
Speaker 12: I get that could be a kid that ends up
1:37:04
Speaker 12: being something pretty good in the seventh round. So he
1:37:07
Speaker 12: stood out to me. I also really liked what I
1:37:10
Speaker 12: saw from both Stevens in the limited amount I was
1:37:13
Speaker 12: able to watch. Obviously we're not in pads yet, but
1:37:16
Speaker 12: you can definitely see the technician, the footwork and the
1:37:18
Speaker 12: way that he moves. Those were two guys that stood
1:37:21
Speaker 12: out away from Jadari and Price, who our good friend
1:37:24
Speaker 12: Robert Turbin, I had had this discussion with him, we
1:37:27
Speaker 12: might have a guy in the building that can compete
1:37:29
Speaker 12: for the best biceps in Seahawks history.
1:37:32
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious, that is high praise because I
1:37:36
Speaker 1: miss staring at those absolute pythons from mister Turvin for sure,
1:37:40
Speaker 1: real quick on.
1:37:42
Speaker 12: It's funny, Chris, I think he's more of a triceps guy.
1:37:45
Speaker 12: I mean, they're both here. He clearly does not miss
1:37:48
Speaker 12: arm day. Let's just put it down way.
1:37:50
Speaker 1: I think they're just steps at this point, Corbyn, like,
1:37:53
Speaker 1: it's just just just muscle everywhere and anywhere and anywhere
1:37:59
Speaker 1: and everywhere.
1:38:00
Speaker 2: Real quick on Eastern.
1:38:01
Speaker 1: So you know, Leonard Williams a guy who is a
1:38:05
Speaker 1: little bit taller than you typically see, maybe a little
1:38:08
Speaker 1: bit different skill set. But is that the type of
1:38:10
Speaker 1: player Eastern can learn from in these first couple of seasons.
1:38:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, because I think that you're looking at a
1:38:17
Speaker 12: player that isn't just going to be hamstrung to be
1:38:19
Speaker 12: a nose tackle. In fact, that might not be his
1:38:22
Speaker 12: best position when it's all said and done, might be
1:38:25
Speaker 12: a really good early down three tech because of that
1:38:29
Speaker 12: length and the fact that he had thirty two pressures
1:38:31
Speaker 12: on quarterbacks the last two years. There's enough tape. I mean,
1:38:36
Speaker 12: he's one of those guys you can see why he
1:38:37
Speaker 12: lasted as long as he did because his play is
1:38:40
Speaker 12: very sporadic and it's up and down. But man, well
1:38:42
Speaker 12: it's good. The Nebraska game in particular, like Matt rules
1:38:47
Speaker 12: boys up front, the buffet basters got turned away from
1:38:50
Speaker 12: the buffet like he was dominating them up there, and
1:38:53
Speaker 12: he was putting gaps, smacking quarterbacks. I mean it was
1:38:57
Speaker 12: that was the best game that I saw him play.
1:39:00
Speaker 12: He kind of got an idea what he can do
1:39:01
Speaker 12: moving around. He even played a couple of staffs at
1:39:03
Speaker 12: a big end in that game. So I could see
1:39:07
Speaker 12: whether Williams being somebody that he wins on because he
1:39:09
Speaker 12: is certainly not the athlete that Leonard Williams is, but
1:39:12
Speaker 12: he is a guy that has a lot of that
1:39:14
Speaker 12: positional versatility, and I think that's certainly going to help
1:39:17
Speaker 12: his chance of being successful in the NFL.
1:39:21
Speaker 1: Corben Smith talking Seahawks with us the Emmanuel Henderson pick,
1:39:25
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about how flor is kind
1:39:29
Speaker 1: of like a direct replacement for boy Mafe. I can't
1:39:34
Speaker 1: help but look at Henderson and NBC being the sometimes nice,
1:39:38
Speaker 1: sometimes not great had me covering a lot of Kansas
1:39:41
Speaker 1: football games and I watched this guy a lot, and boy,
1:39:45
Speaker 1: oh boy, can this guy play special teams. You talked
1:39:48
Speaker 1: about the direct replacement of Fowler for Boye Mafe. It
1:39:54
Speaker 1: really feels like Emmanuel Henderson is a direct replacement for
1:39:58
Speaker 1: Drake Young, doesn't it.
1:40:00
Speaker 12: It does. I mean I think that fans, you know,
1:40:03
Speaker 12: a lot of times fans are looking for like the
1:40:05
Speaker 12: physical comps, and those two guys couldn't be any different
1:40:08
Speaker 12: in terms of the way that they're built physically. Emmanuel
1:40:11
Speaker 12: Henderson Junior looks more like Devin Witherspoon, Like he's that tall,
1:40:15
Speaker 12: lean glass of water. Like he looks like he might
1:40:20
Speaker 12: weigh one point eighty if he's got a bunch of
1:40:23
Speaker 12: water poured into his shoes. Like the guy is not
1:40:25
Speaker 12: he's not a big guy. But no, you turn on
1:40:28
Speaker 12: the tape and like, I'll say this, Chris. He didn't
1:40:31
Speaker 12: play much offense at Alabama, but Nick Saban did not
1:40:35
Speaker 12: red shirt him when he was a true freshman, And
1:40:37
Speaker 12: the reason he didn't is because he was so darn
1:40:40
Speaker 12: good on special teams. Like I would love to hear
1:40:42
Speaker 12: what Nick Saban has to say about this kid. Because
1:40:45
Speaker 12: Nick Saban was gone by the time he transferred. It
1:40:48
Speaker 12: it was just a case, Hey, I want to show
1:40:49
Speaker 12: what I can do on offense at another school. And
1:40:53
Speaker 12: every time he got his opportunities at Alabama, he made
1:40:56
Speaker 12: something happen. He just didn't get very many chances. Kansas
1:40:59
Speaker 12: gave him that opportunity. So I think he's a more
1:41:02
Speaker 12: developed player than Darek Young was coming into the league
1:41:05
Speaker 12: As a receiver, He's got the kick returnability and this
1:41:09
Speaker 12: guy is so much fun to watch play gunner. He
1:41:12
Speaker 12: might have been the best gunner in this draft class.
1:41:15
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me that they had interest just because
1:41:18
Speaker 1: of that. And you know if it almost feels like
1:41:20
Speaker 1: an added Vince seem so much, Chris, Yes, they do,
1:41:25
Speaker 1: and I think it might have worked out okay for
1:41:27
Speaker 1: them in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
1:41:30
Speaker 2: Corbyn, you're the best. Promote all the good stuff that
1:41:32
Speaker 2: you're doing.
1:41:33
Speaker 12: Yeah, emeraldtitdispectrum dot com. You can check out my extended
1:41:37
Speaker 12: thoughts on the Dante Fowler junior signing. I've got that
1:41:41
Speaker 12: up this morning. Just six dollars a month or sixty
1:41:44
Speaker 12: dollars a year, all Seattle sports, all the time.
1:41:47
Speaker 2: Sounds great, Corbyn. We'll check in. I'll check in with
1:41:50
Speaker 2: you soon.
1:41:50
Speaker 12: I'm sure sounds good, Chris, take care.
1:41:53
Speaker 2: Buddy, you bet, Bud. We will take a look at
1:41:56
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1:42:22
Speaker 1: Chris Crawford and Free in Furness's been a lot of
1:42:25
Speaker 1: fun hosting these last couple of days. Appreciate the opportunity,
1:42:29
Speaker 1: and I have teasanders during the commercial.
1:42:33
Speaker 2: I have a very important question for him.
1:42:35
Speaker 3: All Right, what's that May fifth?
1:42:37
Speaker 2: Today's May fifth? It's Cinco de Mayo. It's taco Tuesday.
1:42:42
Speaker 2: Flower or corn tortilla?
1:42:44
Speaker 3: Easy? Flower? Not even close? Why it tastes better?
1:42:49
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I kind of thought you would say.
1:42:52
Speaker 2: I agree.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: I do like the crunch of a corn tortilla. It's
1:42:55
Speaker 1: why the double decker taco is one of the most
1:42:57
Speaker 1: important inventions in society eighties his three, because then you
1:43:01
Speaker 1: can get a little bit of both with the corn
1:43:03
Speaker 1: and the flowers.
1:43:04
Speaker 2: Fair, but I do think the flower tortilla tastes better.
1:43:07
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
1:43:07
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who just really prefer
1:43:10
Speaker 1: that crunch of the corn tortilla.
1:43:12
Speaker 4: But well, okay, so that's that's My second question is
1:43:14
Speaker 4: because you can have a soft corn taco, right.
1:43:19
Speaker 1: Like the ones who've made an oil and it's uh
1:43:23
Speaker 1: made a little bit.
1:43:24
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'll tell you this.
1:43:27
Speaker 1: My last pick for a taco is going to be
1:43:30
Speaker 1: like a pre made corn shell. You know what I'm
1:43:32
Speaker 1: talking about like that last. To me, there's no flavor
1:43:35
Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, my first choice would be a nice
1:43:39
Speaker 1: flower tortilla. I will say, you can give me a
1:43:41
Speaker 1: spinach tortilla. That's my ultimate favorite. I really like those.
1:43:45
Speaker 1: But you're really not using those for tacos too often.
1:43:49
Speaker 2: You don't like spinach.
1:43:50
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't hate spinach wraps. But again, that's
1:43:53
Speaker 4: not like if I'm having a taco like a Mexican,
1:43:56
Speaker 4: I'm not having a spinach tortilla.
1:43:58
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
1:43:59
Speaker 1: No, A tomato tortilla is also a nice little thing
1:44:03
Speaker 1: to have that I could I could rock with. I've
1:44:04
Speaker 1: never had a tomato tortilla taco, but U boys said
1:44:08
Speaker 1: that three times to Taco.
1:44:12
Speaker 2: Boy, taco just sounds so freaking good right now.
1:44:16
Speaker 4: To Keeth, says Keith, our buddy Keith and two five,
1:44:19
Speaker 4: three blasphemy corn all day and twice on Sunday.
1:44:23
Speaker 1: Well, Keith's one of the smartest people that I don't
1:44:25
Speaker 1: actually know but read his text quite often. And hey, Andrews,
1:44:29
Speaker 1: what a perfect segue into looking.
1:44:31
Speaker 3: At some text, right, Yeah, let's do it.
1:44:33
Speaker 4: After that one from Keith quote unquote, you can't give
1:44:36
Speaker 4: up on talent. Says The Two six, especially talent that
1:44:39
Speaker 4: is half paying attention to the show and half paying
1:44:41
Speaker 4: attention to the Arsenal Athletic Co Madrid match.
1:44:43
Speaker 3: Yeah that is one hundred percent.
1:44:45
Speaker 4: Yeah unfortunately, Yeah, that that that was I will fully
1:44:51
Speaker 4: admit that. Uh, and calling me talented a little over
1:44:54
Speaker 4: the top. It's just we're not there yet. But I
1:45:00
Speaker 4: great bell at cross Talk. I have a multitasker. I
1:45:02
Speaker 4: have add I can have the game on and be
1:45:05
Speaker 4: running the show at the same time. So, especially when
1:45:08
Speaker 4: Chris doesn't like to involve me in his interviews.
1:45:10
Speaker 2: Nope, absolutely not.
1:45:12
Speaker 1: He's extremely important that only I get the credit for it.
1:45:17
Speaker 1: But yeah, by the way, Keith, I'm sure you're wondering
1:45:20
Speaker 1: Skeeter's doing.
1:45:20
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he doesn't love that.
1:45:22
Speaker 1: He's kind of hold up in a in one of
1:45:25
Speaker 1: the many local taverns here. He just kind of goes
1:45:27
Speaker 1: from tavern to tavern asking for some amstell light and
1:45:30
Speaker 1: when people tell him amstell light doesn't really exist anymore, he.
1:45:33
Speaker 2: Just gets a little belligerent.
1:45:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. He gets a little upset.
1:45:38
Speaker 4: I understand that, Chris and The Two six says, Chris
1:45:42
Speaker 4: always love when you're on kJ are a few thoughts
1:45:44
Speaker 4: on the Mariners. Yes, it's been a disappointing start, but
1:45:47
Speaker 4: I'll make my assessment on June first. I think they
1:45:50
Speaker 4: will pull out of this and make the playoffs, but
1:45:53
Speaker 4: they aren't going anywhere playing defense.
1:45:56
Speaker 2: Like this A thousand percent agree.
1:45:58
Speaker 1: I agree with every single thing, especially the part about
1:46:01
Speaker 1: me being on KJR. And that is the best point
1:46:03
Speaker 1: that you made. No, I don't have a lot of
1:46:08
Speaker 1: long term concerns with this dude. I see the flaws,
1:46:11
Speaker 1: I see the chinks in the iron, but I also
1:46:14
Speaker 1: see enough flashes of brilliance that I just don't have concerns.
1:46:18
Speaker 1: And like I was talking about with Joe Man, the
1:46:21
Speaker 1: American League just doesn't scare me. The Yankees are good.
1:46:25
Speaker 1: The Yankees are no doubt good, and you know somebody
1:46:29
Speaker 1: from the Ale Central will rise above this just hoop
1:46:33
Speaker 1: water of a division. But like I don't look at
1:46:36
Speaker 1: the AL West and I don't get scared about any
1:46:39
Speaker 1: of these teams. Here's the opposite end of that spectrum, though.
1:46:43
Speaker 1: Anders think anybody in the American League is fear in
1:46:45
Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners right now?
1:46:47
Speaker 3: Uh No?
1:46:47
Speaker 4: And I always I kind of scoff at the idea
1:46:50
Speaker 4: about you know, oh but there everyone around them sucks.
1:46:53
Speaker 4: So okay, because you and I talk about process and
1:46:56
Speaker 4: result all the time, and yes, it is important to
1:47:01
Speaker 4: just make the playoffs and kind of do what you
1:47:02
Speaker 4: can there.
1:47:03
Speaker 3: But I want to have a good team.
1:47:05
Speaker 4: I want to feel good about watching the Mariners every night,
1:47:08
Speaker 4: especially because I have to postcast every single time, so
1:47:11
Speaker 4: being good also helps a our numbers and be me
1:47:15
Speaker 4: having a much better time talking about it.
1:47:17
Speaker 3: I had a much better time last night than the
1:47:18
Speaker 3: previous three nights.
1:47:19
Speaker 4: But in general, like, I want to feel confident and
1:47:23
Speaker 4: I want to feel like I can back this team.
1:47:25
Speaker 4: And I'm someone who I won't just blindly support my
1:47:29
Speaker 4: local team and give them every benefit of the doubt
1:47:33
Speaker 4: until they prove otherwise. I'm like, I will whatever I
1:47:37
Speaker 4: see is what I see, and if they're good, I
1:47:40
Speaker 4: will say they're good and I'll be happy about it.
1:47:42
Speaker 4: If they're not, I won't, And it doesn't matter what
1:47:45
Speaker 4: their record compared to the rest of the American League is.
1:47:48
Speaker 4: I want to I'm just I'm just focusing on the
1:47:50
Speaker 4: Seattle Mariners. So I agree with you that in terms
1:47:54
Speaker 4: of the long term likelihood of them making the playoffs.
1:47:57
Speaker 4: That helps, but I still don't think that you should
1:48:00
Speaker 4: be comparing yourself to I mean, aos is one thing
1:48:03
Speaker 4: that's kind of your main route to get to the playoffs.
1:48:06
Speaker 4: But sure you need to feel good about where your
1:48:08
Speaker 4: baseball team is at.
1:48:10
Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly agree.
1:48:11
Speaker 1: And ultimately, what this, the fact that the American League
1:48:14
Speaker 1: is bad is it's not a anything more than a
1:48:18
Speaker 1: silver lion, right, That's all this is. It's a silver lining.
1:48:21
Speaker 1: It's thank goodness that other teams haven't played to the
1:48:25
Speaker 1: level where you're four or five games back.
1:48:28
Speaker 2: You have to play massive catchup. Thank goodness.
1:48:30
Speaker 1: The Astros just absolutely suck out loud, and you have
1:48:34
Speaker 1: some other teams in the division that aren't playing all
1:48:37
Speaker 1: that well.
1:48:38
Speaker 2: You know, Oakland, I'm gonna.
1:48:39
Speaker 1: Callam Oakland again has done this a few years in
1:48:42
Speaker 1: a row now too, where they've gotten off to a
1:48:43
Speaker 1: decent little start and then just completely faded away.
1:48:46
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen again.
1:48:47
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six.
1:48:48
Speaker 2: They've done a long term plan, There's no doubt about it.
1:48:51
Speaker 1: They've got some really talented players and I think they'll
1:48:53
Speaker 1: get some more coming forward.
1:48:56
Speaker 2: But that is not a team that's competing in twenty
1:48:57
Speaker 2: twenty six.
1:48:58
Speaker 12: Yeah.
1:48:58
Speaker 4: No, And like, like the two IHO six says, I'm
1:49:01
Speaker 4: a bit tired of everyone's saying everyone in the station's
1:49:03
Speaker 4: saying the ms do this every year, as if they
1:49:05
Speaker 4: snap out of it and go on to win it all.
1:49:07
Speaker 4: If people want to criticize pessimism, fine, but how how
1:49:10
Speaker 4: is optimism not equally as naive m is for middling?
1:49:15
Speaker 2: Well well said, that's really well said. Yeah.
1:49:18
Speaker 1: I mean, like the fact that it hasn't been a
1:49:22
Speaker 1: death sentence doesn't mean that they've gone on to live
1:49:25
Speaker 1: their best life.
1:49:26
Speaker 3: No, exactly, A big difference.
1:49:28
Speaker 2: Between those two things. It's a really good point.
1:49:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:49:31
Speaker 4: Quinn in the two five three going to the ownership
1:49:34
Speaker 4: situation with the Blazers and the Sonics. Okay, it's a
1:49:37
Speaker 4: long text, so hear me out. What if just roll
1:49:39
Speaker 4: with me here. What if El Chipo bought the Blazers
1:49:42
Speaker 4: with the full intent of playing the role of Clay
1:49:45
Speaker 4: Bennett and turn around and sell controlling interest to the
1:49:49
Speaker 4: Holloway Group for a quick multi billion dollar profit, and
1:49:52
Speaker 4: the rest of the NBA owners are playcated because they
1:49:55
Speaker 4: don't have to water down the talent pool quote unquote
1:49:58
Speaker 4: and still keep the same share of the pie while
1:50:01
Speaker 4: banking on the PNW pride and absorbing the Portland market
1:50:04
Speaker 4: into Seattle. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we
1:50:07
Speaker 4: start hearing those rumbles when the NBA bones us this fall.
1:50:13
Speaker 5: See.
1:50:14
Speaker 4: The big thing that I got from that is I
1:50:18
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of talk on either a expansion
1:50:20
Speaker 4: or b Dundon's gonna just, you know, buy the Blazers
1:50:24
Speaker 4: and move them to Seattle. I hadn't thought about the
1:50:26
Speaker 4: possibility of him buying the Blazers and then selling them
1:50:29
Speaker 4: for a profit, like right off the top. So that
1:50:32
Speaker 4: is another possibility that is out there because everyone's well
1:50:36
Speaker 4: documented that, you know, Seattle's ready, Vegas is not, so
1:50:40
Speaker 4: they might not expand.
1:50:41
Speaker 1: No, it's really interesting. I did not think about that.
1:50:45
Speaker 1: But that's why there's so many more smart people in this.
1:50:48
Speaker 2: World than me.
1:50:49
Speaker 1: Thank god for it, because we would be very stagnant
1:50:52
Speaker 1: right now.
1:50:53
Speaker 2: That's a really interesting point.
1:50:54
Speaker 1: Did you hear the interview John Kinzano did with Softy
1:50:59
Speaker 1: and Dick where he talked about how the odds he
1:51:03
Speaker 1: thought of Portland moving to Seattle have gone from one
1:51:05
Speaker 1: percent to thirty percent.
1:51:06
Speaker 3: Yea, And I think that's tinny because Canzon is very
1:51:08
Speaker 3: plugged into that market.
1:51:10
Speaker 2: Very plugged into that market.
1:51:11
Speaker 1: And I will just tell you this, I'm going to
1:51:14
Speaker 1: support NBA basketball however it gets here.
1:51:16
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much I'd hate if that's
1:51:18
Speaker 2: the way it happens.
1:51:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot tell you how much, mainly because Sonic
1:51:23
Speaker 1: Blazers should be one of the best rivalries in the NBA.
1:51:25
Speaker 2: It should be one of those like we really look forward.
1:51:28
Speaker 1: We hope we get a chance to see a five
1:51:30
Speaker 1: game playoff series between those two or maybe even a seven.
1:51:32
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's no more five game playoff series. That
1:51:34
Speaker 1: shows how long the NBA has been out of Seattle.
1:51:37
Speaker 2: Now, boy, it's a really interesting thing.
1:51:39
Speaker 1: And honestly, anders as much as I am rooting for
1:51:43
Speaker 1: the Hurricanes to win because I like their hockey style,
1:51:46
Speaker 1: I hate that dude who owns that team and who
1:51:50
Speaker 1: now owns the Blazers so freaking much. And if he
1:51:55
Speaker 1: did this just to make a quick, tidy profit, then
1:51:58
Speaker 1: absolutely shame on him, and shame on the NBA for
1:52:01
Speaker 1: not doing their due diligence to make sure that didn't happen.
1:52:04
Speaker 3: All right, I will play devil's advocate here.
1:52:07
Speaker 4: I still would much, much, much, much rather have an
1:52:10
Speaker 4: expansion team. Yes, but but if the Sonics were to
1:52:18
Speaker 4: be moved or Hartland Blazers would be moved to Seattle
1:52:21
Speaker 4: and then be the Sonics obviously, and that's how we
1:52:24
Speaker 4: get a team, and I'm with you'll support any way
1:52:26
Speaker 4: it happens. I still would much rather have an expansion.
1:52:29
Speaker 4: I'm saying that with a very large right sign yep.
1:52:33
Speaker 4: I would much rather him sell it to the to
1:52:38
Speaker 4: Samantha holl Ofway in one roof than him stay the
1:52:41
Speaker 4: owner and be the owner here in Seattle and have
1:52:44
Speaker 4: to have that be the guy that we support moving forward,
1:52:47
Speaker 4: because that would be worst case scenario number one for me.
1:52:52
Speaker 1: It's boring radio. But I couldn't agree more with you, Like,
1:52:55
Speaker 1: just couldn't, Like I would hate having that ownership group
1:53:00
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Light Oh, that would be really rough. That
1:53:06
Speaker 1: would be really, really rough. So that's that's a good point.
1:53:09
Speaker 1: I just I hope neither one is the option. I
1:53:11
Speaker 1: hope it's an expansion. I hope the Halloway group just
1:53:13
Speaker 1: gets that group. I think there's more than enough talent
1:53:16
Speaker 1: in the NBA for Seattle to be a thriving market. Yeah,
1:53:21
Speaker 1: I just quite content being an ownership group.
1:53:25
Speaker 12: Boy.
1:53:25
Speaker 2: Hey boy, I don't know if I'll get a chance
1:53:27
Speaker 2: to talk to you about this.
1:53:28
Speaker 1: If you had your choice between Zuckerberger Cook owning the Seahawks,
1:53:32
Speaker 1: which way are you going?
1:53:33
Speaker 4: I mean, they've all come out and refuted that report,
1:53:37
Speaker 4: so that's not even like on the table.
1:53:39
Speaker 3: But if I'm choosing between those two, Followey Tim Cook.
1:53:43
Speaker 3: But I yeah, I don't. I don't like either one
1:53:45
Speaker 3: of them.
1:53:46
Speaker 4: And like I said, all signs point to that being
1:53:49
Speaker 4: a very false report and kind of a false alarm
1:53:52
Speaker 4: here in Seattle.
1:53:53
Speaker 3: Would you think it's going to be.
1:53:57
Speaker 4: I don't know. I honestly think Jody Allen it could
1:54:00
Speaker 4: be a part of it. Still, I really hope, yeah,
1:54:03
Speaker 4: I hope she deserves the obvious one's Balmer. I don't
1:54:08
Speaker 4: know if that's gonna happen because he's kind of embedded
1:54:11
Speaker 4: in the LA market now with the Clippers and everything.
1:54:14
Speaker 4: But you never know, he has a lot of money
1:54:16
Speaker 4: he can do with that.
1:54:18
Speaker 3: I don't know.
1:54:18
Speaker 4: I honestly I'm not in the billionaire circles, believe or not.
1:54:22
Speaker 4: Here being a producer on Sports Radio nine treatment three KJRFM.
1:54:25
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
1:54:25
Speaker 3: I'm not in those conversations. Uh two oh six.
1:54:29
Speaker 4: Did you guys notice after Raley did the whole trident
1:54:32
Speaker 4: thing after he hit his home run, he went over
1:54:34
Speaker 4: and hugged Edgar Martinez. I suspect Edgar told him something,
1:54:38
Speaker 4: either something tactical, technical, or something just as a mental approach.
1:54:41
Speaker 4: I did notice that, Chris did you I did?
1:54:43
Speaker 2: I did?
1:54:44
Speaker 1: I did, And it was a nice wholesome moment. And look,
1:54:49
Speaker 1: I think some of that is just also like Luke
1:54:51
Speaker 1: Raley being like, thanks for believing in me, thanks for like,
1:54:55
Speaker 1: you know, because he after that ridiculously good start, Luke
1:54:59
Speaker 1: Raley has been terrible and even with that home run,
1:55:03
Speaker 1: since that really good start, Luke Raley has not been
1:55:06
Speaker 1: anything close to an above average hitter. Right, I think
1:55:09
Speaker 1: some of that might have been just relief. But also, dude,
1:55:12
Speaker 1: these guys love Hgar. It's so obvious how much they
1:55:15
Speaker 1: love talking to this guy about hitting, just talking about
1:55:18
Speaker 1: modern day to day stuff.
1:55:19
Speaker 2: That was a really neat moment.
1:55:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was really cool.
1:55:23
Speaker 4: We're getting a lot of hate on the text line
1:55:25
Speaker 4: for our tacos talk twoo six corn for real Mexican tacos,
1:55:30
Speaker 4: flower for burritos two six also different number, though this
1:55:36
Speaker 4: is the whitest taco conversation I've ever listened to. WTH
1:55:41
Speaker 4: three to six to oho fried corn tortilla on a
1:55:43
Speaker 4: hot cast iron, no oil, two tortillas per taco.
1:55:47
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:55:47
Speaker 4: I mean this may come as a shock to you guys,
1:55:51
Speaker 4: but Chris and I are very white. So there's a
1:55:53
Speaker 4: reason why.
1:55:54
Speaker 3: It sounds like to find out. Geez, sorry, Chris, I
1:55:59
Speaker 3: don't know if that burst your bubble, but well.
1:56:02
Speaker 1: You know what, We'll talk to someone who's very whites,
1:56:06
Speaker 1: who loves tacos and is.
1:56:08
Speaker 2: Rich enough to buy the SuperSonics.
1:56:09
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1:56:34
Speaker 2: So what I'm gathering from the text line the Tacoma
1:56:37
Speaker 2: Dodgs text line four nine four or five to one.
1:56:40
Speaker 1: People are passionate about tacos. People seem to really have
1:56:44
Speaker 1: strong opinions about tacos and you know what, good for you?
1:56:48
Speaker 1: And today must be a holiday because you can not
1:56:50
Speaker 1: only get Sinco de Mayo, you get Taco Tuesday.
1:56:54
Speaker 2: How often does that happen? Anders? How often do we
1:56:56
Speaker 2: get to enjoy a Taco Tuesday?
1:56:59
Speaker 3: And not very often? Not very often at all.
1:57:02
Speaker 4: And someone who I know is a huge fan of
1:57:05
Speaker 4: both Cinco de Mayo and Taco Tuesday is joining us
1:57:09
Speaker 4: right now. Softy, what's up do you?
1:57:11
Speaker 6: Oh?
1:57:11
Speaker 5: What is.
1:57:13
Speaker 6: How?
1:57:13
Speaker 2: Are you.
1:57:16
Speaker 3: Doing well? Doing well?
1:57:17
Speaker 12: Chris?
1:57:18
Speaker 3: You should be able to hear softly now? Sorry I
1:57:19
Speaker 3: had the wrong Uh, that's.
1:57:21
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, honestly, I've heard enough of his voice
1:57:24
Speaker 1: for the last thirty years.
1:57:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, likewise, likewise thirty years.
1:57:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and my me and my market rating that
1:57:32
Speaker 2: have been around. How are you doing, buddy, I'm good.
1:57:35
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I've only known you for about ten years,
1:57:37
Speaker 10: but then it feels like a hundred.
1:57:38
Speaker 5: To be totally honest with god, I'm sorry.
1:57:41
Speaker 10: I'm sorry we did not get the hook up yesterday
1:57:43
Speaker 10: and and talk before Game one against the Braves, But man,
1:57:46
Speaker 10: that kind of felt like I was making the analogy.
1:57:49
Speaker 10: This morning, I was on with Paul Sylvia and egan
1:57:51
Speaker 10: over on King and that come back against the Astros
1:57:55
Speaker 10: a year ago the MS had when I felt like,
1:57:58
Speaker 10: all right, that might be the game that kind of
1:58:00
Speaker 10: this thing, and I'm kind of wondering and hoping that
1:58:02
Speaker 10: last night maybe does the same.
1:58:04
Speaker 1: Euh oh, it sure felt like it, because you know,
1:58:08
Speaker 1: I mentioned on social media that the vibes felt as
1:58:12
Speaker 1: bad as they possibly good. Could excuse me when it
1:58:15
Speaker 1: got to four nothing and Logan Gilbert just got absolutely
1:58:19
Speaker 1: she lacked in that inning. Finally the hard hits started
1:58:22
Speaker 1: not finding gloves. They found the center field wall and
1:58:26
Speaker 1: unfortunately over the center field wall. But man, it's amazing
1:58:30
Speaker 1: how quick and Softie Andrews and I talked about this.
1:58:33
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite things about baseball is
1:58:35
Speaker 1: how quickly things can change momentum wise, like just like that.
1:58:40
Speaker 2: You know, in football it takes some time.
1:58:41
Speaker 1: In basketball, you know, hockey soccer, you know, if somebody
1:58:44
Speaker 1: makes a mistake it can lead to a goal or
1:58:46
Speaker 1: something like that. But in baseball, those crappy feelings can
1:58:51
Speaker 1: be elevated real quick and vice versa two. And that's
1:58:54
Speaker 1: why I just love this sport so freaking much.
1:58:58
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, I mean, it's the blessing in the
1:59:00
Speaker 10: right about major League Baseball that you know, it's hard
1:59:02
Speaker 10: to have an opinion, a real hardcore opinion on anything,
1:59:06
Speaker 10: because it could change the next day.
1:59:07
Speaker 5: I heard you use the word predictive yesterday.
1:59:09
Speaker 10: You know, what are we taking from that Kansas City
1:59:11
Speaker 10: series that you know, gives us some kind of an
1:59:14
Speaker 10: idea of what this team's gonna look like in late
1:59:16
Speaker 10: July early August, which is ridiculous. I mean, every team
1:59:19
Speaker 10: has a bump in the road, every team has a
1:59:21
Speaker 10: three or four game stretch where they just look like
1:59:23
Speaker 10: absolute ass. And the Mariners had one over the weekend
1:59:25
Speaker 10: against Kansas City. But you know, look, I mean the
1:59:28
Speaker 10: saving grace for them is that they've not been healthy
1:59:30
Speaker 10: and they have not been performing up to par. Like
1:59:33
Speaker 10: if all these guys were performing to the back of
1:59:35
Speaker 10: their baseball card, you think, man, this is a this
1:59:37
Speaker 10: is bad, this is going to be a problem because
1:59:39
Speaker 10: these guys are going out there and they're doing about
1:59:41
Speaker 10: what they're supposed to be doing. Well, they're not doing
1:59:43
Speaker 10: what they're supposed to be doing, especially guys like Logan
1:59:46
Speaker 10: Gilbert and Luis Castillo and even some.
1:59:48
Speaker 5: Guys in the bullpen.
1:59:49
Speaker 10: So I mean, I feel good about where they're at overall, Chris.
1:59:53
Speaker 10: You know, the American League is wide open yet again,
1:59:56
Speaker 10: the Yankees might be the clear cut favorite in this league.
2:00:00
Speaker 10: Tampa Bay might be right behind them. We'll find out.
2:00:03
Speaker 10: But the West is wide open, the league is wide open.
2:00:06
Speaker 10: There's a lot of parody right now in baseball, especially
2:00:08
Speaker 10: in this league. So I love where the Mariners are at.
2:00:11
Speaker 10: I mean, look what I've rather been off to a
2:00:13
Speaker 10: you know, twenty and ten, twenty five and ten start,
2:00:17
Speaker 10: of course, but there's reasons why they're where they're at.
2:00:20
Speaker 10: And it's not because I don't think that guys aren't
2:00:22
Speaker 10: good baseball players. I just think they're not doing their
2:00:25
Speaker 10: job and they eventually will.
2:00:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's a really good point that
2:00:29
Speaker 2: you bring up about the fact that, you know, we
2:00:31
Speaker 2: talked about this for a lot of the show. I'm
2:00:35
Speaker 2: just you throw me off. You throw me off, my man.
2:00:39
Speaker 1: Just the fact that no one in the American League
2:00:40
Speaker 1: outside of the Eights like Tampa Bay's ten games over
2:00:42
Speaker 1: five hundred. They have a run differential of plus eleven.
2:00:46
Speaker 1: There's a lot of luck that's going on with Tampa Bay.
2:00:48
Speaker 1: And you know, if that team gets offered a way
2:00:51
Speaker 1: to lower its payroll's going to do it at the
2:00:53
Speaker 1: same time too, So that wouldn't be a team that
2:00:55
Speaker 1: I would worry about. Like the athletics, we have seen
2:00:58
Speaker 1: this from them for I think straight years, where they
2:01:00
Speaker 1: have a decent little start and just completely crater away.
2:01:04
Speaker 2: Texas doesn't look great. The Astros look like just a
2:01:08
Speaker 2: pile of dog turds that have been lit on fire
2:01:11
Speaker 2: and then re lit for some reason.
2:01:13
Speaker 1: They just look awful, and the Angel awful. The Angels
2:01:17
Speaker 1: are just an awful team. Are excited about Dante Fowler?
2:01:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I mean right now, I'm just thinking about
2:01:23
Speaker 10: whether you can actually light dog poop on fire. I
2:01:26
Speaker 10: mean you mentioned that right there, Like do you need
2:01:28
Speaker 10: to add something to an anders like a little lighter
2:01:31
Speaker 10: fluid or any kind of.
2:01:36
Speaker 5: Dog poop is flammable? Four nine four five one.
2:01:39
Speaker 10: Can anybody confirm out there that dog crap is actually flammable?
2:01:43
Speaker 5: Let us know.
2:01:44
Speaker 10: I've fi I mean, I've got three dogs, so I
2:01:48
Speaker 10: have an opportunity every morning when I go out to
2:01:50
Speaker 10: pick up poop at about seven o'clock in the morning
2:01:52
Speaker 10: to find that out. So, honey, if you're listening, if
2:01:55
Speaker 10: you see me outside in the backyard tomorrow morning lighting
2:01:58
Speaker 10: Dudley's crap on fire. You know why I'm doing it
2:02:00
Speaker 10: because I want to confirm whether or not you can
2:02:02
Speaker 10: indeed light dog poop on fire.
2:02:05
Speaker 5: What was the question again, oh Dante Fowler.
2:02:09
Speaker 2: Like hired?
2:02:12
Speaker 10: No, No, listen, listen, I'm not picking up on my
2:02:16
Speaker 10: bare hand. For God's sakes. They have a little pooper
2:02:20
Speaker 10: scooper that I use. We do it every morning. We
2:02:22
Speaker 10: have three of them. You know how much dog poop
2:02:24
Speaker 10: three dogs can generate in one day, by the way,
2:02:27
Speaker 10: it's ridiculous, all right, So plenty of opportunities to find
2:02:30
Speaker 10: out if you actually can light it on fire.
2:02:32
Speaker 5: And I will do that tomorrow. Here's what I'll do
2:02:34
Speaker 5: tomorrow morning.
2:02:34
Speaker 10: I'll wake up, I'll take I'll take a a a
2:02:38
Speaker 10: lighter out to the backyard. I will light it on fire,
2:02:41
Speaker 10: and I will send you guys the video. Yeah, that's
2:02:43
Speaker 10: that's what. That's what the two of you will be
2:02:45
Speaker 10: waking up to tomorrow morning.
2:02:47
Speaker 5: And it's your fault for bringing it up now about.
2:02:49
Speaker 3: Pooping with Softy instead of driving with Softy.
2:02:51
Speaker 5: Fine, fine, what.
2:02:53
Speaker 10: I just do a little commentary while I'm on the
2:02:55
Speaker 10: pooper talking about lighting dog poop on fire.
2:02:57
Speaker 5: Dante Fowler, Junior Dante.
2:03:00
Speaker 10: Let's go back to that before we totally gross out
2:03:03
Speaker 10: the entire audience. I'm thinking about like the scene and
2:03:06
Speaker 10: stand by me, the pieting contest of Barfaramas. Oh you
2:03:08
Speaker 10: over that, and that the entire audience is doing that
2:03:11
Speaker 10: right now, puking all over.
2:03:12
Speaker 5: Their car windows. Yeah, I mean, I mean, am I?
2:03:15
Speaker 10: Am I excited about him like I was when the
2:03:18
Speaker 10: Hawks went out and got Chad Brown.
2:03:20
Speaker 5: No, of course not. The guy's thirty one years old.
2:03:23
Speaker 5: For God's sake.
2:03:24
Speaker 10: There's a reason why he's available, and there's a reason
2:03:26
Speaker 10: why he's making five million.
2:03:27
Speaker 5: Dollars a season.
2:03:28
Speaker 10: But am I more excited for this guy to play
2:03:31
Speaker 10: for the Seahawks than maybe any other team?
2:03:34
Speaker 5: Yes? Because of Mike McDonald.
2:03:36
Speaker 10: And I think that Mike McDonald deserves the benefit of
2:03:39
Speaker 10: the doubt until he doesn't. And right now we're talking
2:03:42
Speaker 10: about a guy who in two years built the best
2:03:44
Speaker 10: defense in the NFL. He took not a reclamation project,
2:03:49
Speaker 10: but a bit of a reclamation project, a guy who
2:03:52
Speaker 10: was towards the end of his career into Marcus Lawrence
2:03:55
Speaker 10: and turned him into a guy who was a key
2:03:57
Speaker 10: cog in the Seahawks lineup a year ago defense Lee
2:04:00
Speaker 10: and maybe he can do the same thing with Dante Fowler.
2:04:03
Speaker 10: So I don't know if there's a lot of teams
2:04:05
Speaker 10: where Dante Fowler could go and actually Chris make a
2:04:09
Speaker 10: real contribution that would be significant.
2:04:11
Speaker 3: This is one of them.
2:04:12
Speaker 5: This team is one of them.
2:04:14
Speaker 10: Playing for Damiko Ryans in Houston might be another, and
2:04:17
Speaker 10: this is certainly one of them. So from that standpoint,
2:04:20
Speaker 10: I'm glad to have the guy because we need him too.
2:04:22
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Chad Brown, Chad Brown, yes, Patrick Kearney,
2:04:26
Speaker 1: Julian Peterson. Which of those three is the most underrated
2:04:29
Speaker 1: Seattle defender.
2:04:30
Speaker 5: Well, Patrick Kearney was, I think. Look it up.
2:04:33
Speaker 10: He was either second or top five in the Defensive
2:04:36
Speaker 10: Player of the Year voting the first.
2:04:37
Speaker 5: Year he got here one or the other.
2:04:40
Speaker 10: And I don't think people remember that he also was
2:04:42
Speaker 10: able to hook up with Lisa Gangle by.
2:04:44
Speaker 5: The way, and that became his wife.
2:04:47
Speaker 10: So if you don't think that Patrick Kearney had a
2:04:50
Speaker 10: pretty good run in Seattle, you're out of your freaking mind.
2:04:54
Speaker 10: I mean, the Chad Brown thing is, look, you never
2:04:56
Speaker 10: got a chance to play for any really good team
2:04:58
Speaker 10: in Seattle. Favorite memory of Julian Peterson was the two
2:05:03
Speaker 10: thousand and six playoff game at Chicago where he was
2:05:06
Speaker 10: throwing around Rex Grossman like a rag doll. The game
2:05:09
Speaker 10: they should have won because they couldn't run the ball
2:05:11
Speaker 10: because Steve Hutchins was playing in Minnesota. So I'd probably
2:05:14
Speaker 10: say Kerney just because I don't realize that. I don't
2:05:17
Speaker 10: think people realize how good he was, then.
2:05:19
Speaker 2: I think I would agree with that.
2:05:21
Speaker 1: I will say, like Chad Brown, and you know, we're
2:05:23
Speaker 1: aging ourselves here with the Brown signing, but.
2:05:25
Speaker 2: Like he was a guy who had a bunch of.
2:05:29
Speaker 10: So much what do you say?
2:05:32
Speaker 12: Said?
2:05:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So Chad Brown was a guy who had
2:05:37
Speaker 1: like a bunch of sacks in Pittsburgh. He didn't play
2:05:39
Speaker 1: that role with Seattle, but like he was a really
2:05:42
Speaker 1: good linebacker for them and just didn't get that same
2:05:45
Speaker 1: chance to get those same types of rushing attempts.
2:05:49
Speaker 2: A uh, softy, what do you get coming up today?
2:05:53
Speaker 10: Kearney, by the way, was tied with Albert Haynesworth for
2:05:56
Speaker 10: second in the NFL and Player of the Year voting. Yeah,
2:05:59
Speaker 10: bob stand your number one in him and Albert Haynesworth
2:06:02
Speaker 10: were number two.
2:06:03
Speaker 5: What's Today? Tuesday?
2:06:04
Speaker 10: John Wilner joins us. Brian Schmetzer will join us on
2:06:07
Speaker 10: the radio show from the Brian Schmetzer Orchestra, Tyson Saunders,
2:06:12
Speaker 10: Chuck pala is gonna swing by Jimmy's. He's gonna make
2:06:14
Speaker 10: a rare public appearance at six o'clock. Mitch Garver, everybody's
2:06:19
Speaker 10: favorite backup catcher, will join us on the show about
2:06:22
Speaker 10: three thirty today. We'll do a little fun with audio.
2:06:26
Speaker 10: And did I mention John Wilner, by the way, he's.
2:06:28
Speaker 5: On the radio show at five o'clock tonight talking to
2:06:30
Speaker 5: some color.
2:06:31
Speaker 2: It's like a lot of stuff. It sounds like a
2:06:32
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that.
2:06:33
Speaker 5: I'll probably it's all right, kind of lame, but we
2:06:35
Speaker 5: do our best.
2:06:36
Speaker 10: Sorry, I think it's I can't live up to you
2:06:39
Speaker 10: talking about lighting dog poop on fire, but we'll try
2:06:41
Speaker 10: our best.
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Speaker 3: Highlight of the show.
2:06:44
Speaker 2: We never heard of begs before sports radio. Nice three
2:06:46
Speaker 2: points bags like.
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Speaker 10: The bag itself is flammable, not the crap like in
2:06:51
Speaker 10: Billy Madison, remember that when he let the dog poop
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Speaker 10: on fire and Billy.
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Speaker 2: Madison away, Come on hardy.
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Speaker 8: See for the mild manner and margin the objectionable e Inverness.
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Speaker 5: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,