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Title: Counting Kisses on Night One · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. It's a big week at the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. We are no longer in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Ashley I con Eddie did a tremendous job
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  Speaker 1: interviewing this year's bachelor, Zach. You can go back and
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  Speaker 1: listen to it if you haven't already. It's worth listening to.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley did not hold back with questions and and Zach
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  Speaker 1: didn't hold back with answers. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: great interview. I left it being excited to meet him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna meet him next week uh in uh in California,
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  Speaker 1: uh at the Pebble Beach a T and t um
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  Speaker 1: pro am, And I'm excited to meet him. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's probably a great dude. I have my thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the first episode. We'll talk about later, but I thought
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  Speaker 1: your interview was great, Ashley. Thanks Ben, that's so sweet
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  Speaker 1: of you. You did a good job. Now I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: on that interview because this last week I was at
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  Speaker 1: my favorite event, or at least one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: events of the year. It is the Hilton Grand Vacations
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  Speaker 1: Tournament of Champions. It's a golf tournament we won't bore
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  Speaker 1: you with golf. I will say that somehow, some way,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison did beat Wells and I both somehow some way,
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure that was the obvious winner. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: We're close to the same, all three of us. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we go back and forth on who be two and
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  Speaker 1: how who beat two? Chris kind of has that, I
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  Speaker 1: would say the older brother or dad um thing over
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  Speaker 1: Wells and I were. No matter who's better at anything,
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  Speaker 1: he always somehow finds a way to win. Well, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's because he has over ten years of experience on
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  Speaker 1: the course. So were you guys? Yeah, well he's never
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  Speaker 1: played this though he's never played this event, this was
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  Speaker 1: his uh first time playing at Lake Nona Wells. I
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  Speaker 1: would say he's the most talented golfer. I think Chris
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  Speaker 1: would admit that too. Out of the three of us,
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  Speaker 1: I uh will be the most streaky, meaning I could
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  Speaker 1: get hot and go really low or I could go
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  Speaker 1: really high. And then Chris is kind of that just
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  Speaker 1: like that turtle who just walks slowly, doesn't do anything crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but he just did what he needed to do to
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  Speaker 1: beat us both. That's all the golf knowledge we will
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  Speaker 1: give obviously, um, a big thing coming out of this
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  Speaker 1: weekend for some people, not really as much for me.
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  Speaker 1: But you can listen to Chris Harrison's new podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: most dramatic pod ever, and get super enjoyable. I can
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  Speaker 1: catch you up on the episodes out now. I am.
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten caught up to. Yeah. It's great to hear
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  Speaker 1: his voice again. There's something just so soothing and like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like listening to it that I would enjoy
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  Speaker 1: listening to it even if I wasn't a Bachelor fan
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  Speaker 1: and didn't know him. Well, I think that's probably the hope, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he has he has a building fan base.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna happen. Yeah, But his relationship advice is very good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in general, his advice is very good. He's
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of things, but he uh, he was
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  Speaker 1: there this weekend with us. Um so was Chris Lane,
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  Speaker 1: who was married to uh Lauren Lane formerly Lauren Bushnell,
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  Speaker 1: who obviously I know well uh, And I was nervous again.
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  Speaker 1: You can get the details of this whole thing. We
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  Speaker 1: won't go into details here on Chris's podcast. I was nervous, anxious,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more or anything. I haven't seen Lauren since we split. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't really haunt me, but it was just like
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  Speaker 1: a thing where it's like, hey, you know, how often
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  Speaker 1: do you want to run into your exes? Maybe some
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  Speaker 1: they're not they're cool with it. I don't do it often,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not like a habit of mine. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: so I was just like, no, this could be weird
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  Speaker 1: and and hopefully it's all good. I don't. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it is right. She's married with two kids. I'm married.
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  Speaker 1: Life has gone very good for the both of us
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  Speaker 1: were both very happy. But that first interaction was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a little weird. But but it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't Lauren, Uh, I don't. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: if she came. But I did see Chris uh and
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  Speaker 1: Lauren's dad, who was there helping Chris out throughout the week.
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  Speaker 1: And it was awesome, It really was. It was really
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  Speaker 1: good Chris Uh, very very kind, very nice. Um. There
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  Speaker 1: was no weirdness, there was no like awkwardness. It was
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  Speaker 1: just good to see him. It was kind of good
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  Speaker 1: to rip that band aid off. It kind of felt
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  Speaker 1: like that first Interactually, Guy, I remember being around him, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sweet guy, and Uh. We ran into each other within
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes of me walking into hotel and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: see me. So this is not me being the bigger
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  Speaker 1: man here. But I went up to him, said hey, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: He said hey, ma'am, and that's and then conversation started
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  Speaker 1: about the week. It was great to see Lawrence dad
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  Speaker 1: and it was very nice too. He actually approached me
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  Speaker 1: said hey Ben. Um, so it went great. I guess
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  Speaker 1: overall there was no drama. There is interesting and you
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  Speaker 1: can hear about the details of this. Uh the locker
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  Speaker 1: room that we have at this event, it was Chris
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  Speaker 1: Harrison and me. There's fifty people playing in this thing,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's Chris Harrison, then me, and
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  Speaker 1: then Chris Lane on the other side of me. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was sandwich between the Chris Is. And so when
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  Speaker 1: I saw that that, I saw that before I had
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  Speaker 1: actually ran into Chris Lane, and I was goodness, gracious,
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  Speaker 1: um this Yeah, but it was awesome and I'm really
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  Speaker 1: happy that I got to like meet him again, uh
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  Speaker 1: in person, get to talk to him, get to to
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  Speaker 1: see them. It was in a in a weird way,
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  Speaker 1: therapeutic just to to see them again. And they're great people. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And so I I definitely. Um wanted them to know that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're all good here, like this is great, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: it was a really great week. Sarah came down and
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  Speaker 1: watched Wells. Lauren Zema came down and watched Chris. Jessica
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  Speaker 1: came out and watched me. All of us got to
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  Speaker 1: hang out, my parents, my mom and dad. My dad's
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  Speaker 1: my caddie. My mom is my moral support at times,
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  Speaker 1: my water bottle holder. She is the best. And we
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  Speaker 1: all got to go to family dinners every night, all
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  Speaker 1: of us. We did probably five family dinners, just getting
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  Speaker 1: together and having drinks and having food and talking about
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  Speaker 1: life and laughing. It's a great week um, and what
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  Speaker 1: I'm very thankful for every year. And it was great
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  Speaker 1: to have Chris and Wells um there with me because
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  Speaker 1: this is Chris or Wells the second year, Chris's first,
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  Speaker 1: so sometimes I've done this alone, so it is great
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  Speaker 1: to be all of us together. So can you give
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  Speaker 1: us like a little behind the scenes tidbit of like
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  Speaker 1: how the chemistry is between all the ladies, or like
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  Speaker 1: give us a little dirt from the weekend. You know
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  Speaker 1: that the dirt from the weekend is minimal. Um, there
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  Speaker 1: isn't a lot, because a moment a something something, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have a story. We there's a lot of stories.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a good moment. So I'm on the eighteenth
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  Speaker 1: hole on Sunday and I hit a ball and I
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  Speaker 1: hit it way right by, twenty yards right of the green.
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  Speaker 1: It's a part five, so I had quite a long
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  Speaker 1: ways in so it wasn't a terrible shot. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a good shot. I walk up to my ball and
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  Speaker 1: is rolled underneath Sarah and Wells's feet. They were doing
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  Speaker 1: an interview and my ball rolls up and sits underneath
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  Speaker 1: their feet. They don't even know it's there. They have
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  Speaker 1: no clue that it's rolled u underneath their feet. And
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  Speaker 1: so they're in this interview with who knows who, like
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  Speaker 1: NBC or somebody, and I have to walk up behind
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  Speaker 1: them ask them to please move their interview so that
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  Speaker 1: I can hit my ball out of like the media
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  Speaker 1: area that no ball is ever supposed to be him.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good moment. The chemistry between the three girls
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. None of them are huge golfers. Uh. Jessica
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  Speaker 1: walked all eighteen holes with me one day. Uh. I
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  Speaker 1: don't spect her due to every day she doesn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: love golf, and it's a long walk. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: put in twenty five thousand steps by the time you're
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  Speaker 1: done on a golf course. So they sat and they
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  Speaker 1: drank wine together. Um, Sarah and Wells are on the
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  Speaker 1: way to Disneyland. Um after disney World, actually sorry, disney
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  Speaker 1: World after the tournament, to do a nice little tour
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  Speaker 1: with Wells brother, Brett and his wife. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a week it felt like of like bliss more than
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  Speaker 1: anything else. Um, it just kind of felt like a
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  Speaker 1: week where everybody like is enjoying being in the hot sun,
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  Speaker 1: having drinks. If you want to golf, you golf. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't, you sit at the cocktail bar here and
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  Speaker 1: you just hang out and you watch all the celebrities
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  Speaker 1: walk by. And there's a lot of celebrities there, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of former athletes that I loved growing up. So
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  Speaker 1: it does feel like a week of bliss. My my
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  Speaker 1: week wasn't easy, you know, but it was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. Um, and so I enjoy I just enjoy
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  Speaker 1: being there with my parents and with with Jess and
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  Speaker 1: then obviously to have friends there. So great week and like, no,
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  Speaker 1: no, no no, I can't wait to go back. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: won't bore you with golf knowledge. Well, I want to
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  Speaker 1: jump into one more thing before we do the first
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  Speaker 1: episode recap. How is Chris dealing with I mean dealing
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  Speaker 1: is that the right word? How is he celebrating? Um,
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  Speaker 1: just having the number one podcast last week and just
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  Speaker 1: like kind of feeling back. I laughed at this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing this for six years, Ashley. We have
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  Speaker 1: a good podcast. It's a good, solid podcast. It's grown,
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  Speaker 1: it keeps growing. Um, we have a lot of fun
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  Speaker 1: with it. But I've been here for six years now.
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  Speaker 1: Chris has done this for a month and somehow I
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  Speaker 1: found myself this week at this tournament creating content for
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  Speaker 1: him once again, Like he just has this way over
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  Speaker 1: me where if it's on the on the Bachelor, or
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  Speaker 1: if it's with this podcast. We did a whole podcast
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  Speaker 1: about my week, uh, and the and the things that
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  Speaker 1: happened to me just kind of running into Chris and
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  Speaker 1: nothing bad happened, but it was it was a thing, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's good material for his most dramatic podcast ever.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a good story for example, the stories come out.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we have a buddy of ours, who was
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  Speaker 1: caddying for Robbie Amel. Robbie Amel is an actor and
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of movies. Really good looking Feller looks good
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  Speaker 1: in a golf shirt. And um, his caddy his friends
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  Speaker 1: with Wells from Los Angeles. And we're at dinner one
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  Speaker 1: night and Chris Harrison is talking to me about running
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  Speaker 1: into Chris Lane and this this Robbie's caddy doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: who Chris Lane is, so he googles him and he
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  Speaker 1: kind of waits till the conversations over and all of
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  Speaker 1: us are having this family dinner, and he kind of
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  Speaker 1: stops the conversation goes, yeah, this is Christly and his
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  Speaker 1: wife is so hot. I knew that was coming, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like I didn't say a word. I just
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  Speaker 1: kind of sat there and Chris and Well start laughing
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you should stop, like that's Ben
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  Speaker 1: Eck Ben's X. And then he's like, oh, that's super awkward,
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  Speaker 1: and so he googles me because at this point Jessica
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  Speaker 1: has not shown up to the term and he goes,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, but your wife is so hot too. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't say that my wife is hot like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was that was that was good. Obviously it makes
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  Speaker 1: Chris's podcast as well. It's a good story to share.
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  Speaker 1: Chris is handling it great. I mean he's very excited.
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  Speaker 1: He's good at this stuff. I mean when we sat
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  Speaker 1: down to do his podcast with him in the hotel room,
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  Speaker 1: he has a whole paper full of notes and questions
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  Speaker 1: that he wants to get into with us. Uh. The
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  Speaker 1: fans adore him, right, I mean he had tons of
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  Speaker 1: people around asking for autographs and asking for pictures and
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  Speaker 1: asking um for different things from him, and he handles
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  Speaker 1: it really well. I think he's he's in a good spot.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's times that I've seen Chris since
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  Speaker 1: obviously the incident, where it felt like, hey, this isn't
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  Speaker 1: the same Chris. I've always known this is there's something
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  Speaker 1: going on here. He's he's hurt. H I would say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his his love for Lauren's ema is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he adores that woman. And I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to speak for them, but I would imagine even listening
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  Speaker 1: to the podcast the last two years has brought them
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  Speaker 1: closer together because they have a tremendous amount of respect
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  Speaker 1: and support for each other. Uh, and they love being
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  Speaker 1: around each other, which is so cool to see. I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen Chris with somebody with a partner right. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And and I just felt like from this week, it
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  Speaker 1: was a week where I felt like, that's that's my buddy.
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  Speaker 1: He's back, you know, he's he's he's in it, and
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  Speaker 1: he's he's healthy, and he's good, and he he has
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  Speaker 1: great perspective on things again, and he's great advice on
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  Speaker 1: things again. He has a lot of wisdom to share.
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  Speaker 1: But he asked we can have a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like this podcast has been great for him,
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  Speaker 1: uh and probably great for a lot of people listening.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he's good, Like I feel like he's
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  Speaker 1: in a good rhythm. You guys probably had the episodes
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  Speaker 1: in which he finally got to be able to relax
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  Speaker 1: and have fun. Because the podcast, the first two episodes
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  Speaker 1: are then recapping the past two years. The second too,
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  Speaker 1: are him getting fan questions, and the fan questions are
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  Speaker 1: not easy. They didn't give him softballs at all. Those
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  Speaker 1: those were not filtered questions. And then finally he got
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  Speaker 1: to sit down with you guys and probably have fun. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of on the directory out of that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't need softballs. It's Chris. He should speak what happened.
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  Speaker 1: He should speak to the events that happened. He should
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  Speaker 1: speak to everything. I mean, he doesn't. He doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to hide away. Uh, and so they shouldn't be softballs.
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  Speaker 1: He should speak to this stuff, and he is and
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  Speaker 1: he's willing to and I think that's ultimately a really
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  Speaker 1: good thing for everybody. And now his show will turn
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  Speaker 1: into um a really fun show for so many people
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  Speaker 1: to listen to and get his perspective and advice on.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna be a great seat for
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  Speaker 1: him to sit in because it's unfiltered. Chris is not
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  Speaker 1: a filtered human. He can he can put a tie
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  Speaker 1: on and stand in front of a camera and do
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  Speaker 1: great things. But he has just a lot of raw
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  Speaker 1: grit to him too, and life experience that you want
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  Speaker 1: to hear and you want somebody to share, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't want it to be necessarily buttoned up on a
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  Speaker 1: television show like I think this podcast is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun because we get the un the
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  Speaker 1: unfiltered Chris Harrison, the one that we've known and the
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  Speaker 1: one that we've really enjoyed being around and now other
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  Speaker 1: people are gonna be around. And I would tell you
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  Speaker 1: listening to his show, he is himself like that is,
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  Speaker 1: he is more himself on that show than he's I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen him on a media stage before, and that's
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  Speaker 1: exciting for me. So yeah, listen to It's part of
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  Speaker 1: the our heart family. UM, it's part of our team's family.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great show. It's good to be be with
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  Speaker 1: both of them. Very excited about um just getting to
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  Speaker 1: spend that time with with friends. And we're gonna see
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  Speaker 1: Wells again next week in California. We're gonna see Zach again,
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  Speaker 1: the current Bachelor in California. Uh. And speaking of Bachelor,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: actually I think we should take a break. We come back.
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  Speaker 1: We have the first episode of this season to break down.
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  Speaker 1: Cannot wait. I have not talked to you about it yet.
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  Speaker 1: There was no text last night, there was no phone
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  Speaker 1: calls last night. I have no clue how you felt
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  Speaker 1: about this first episode. I know how I feel, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: you all listening, we'll know soon. Before we get into
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: details of the episode, I will say my overall thought
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: on the first night is what it is every season,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and you know how I feel about the first episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pointless, I do. I don't. If there's
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: one thing about the show that could change, it would
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: be how Night one operates. Now we do have to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: meet everybody. The limo entrances are fine and they're nice. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't remember anybody's name. I don't remember how
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  Speaker 1: they introduced themselves. I don't remember much about Night One
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  Speaker 1: in two more weeks, and so I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: there has to be a little switch up here. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like it does every season. This is not
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  Speaker 1: a critique of this season. This is not being critical
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  Speaker 1: of what I think the season will look like. It
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  Speaker 1: just felt monotonous to me, and it felt, Uh, it
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  Speaker 1: felt very predictable. They're gonna have somebody crying, They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have somebody upset, They're gonna have somebody trying to steal
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  Speaker 1: more time than others. Not everybody's gonna get to talk
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  Speaker 1: to him. Oh No, what's gonna happen if I don't
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  Speaker 1: get to talk to him. The shan Low segment I
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: think was meant to mix it up. But what did
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  Speaker 1: we get out of that? We didn't get really any advice.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get much more than a monologue of of
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  Speaker 1: Zach lifting weight. Um, if you know, I would have
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: loved to see Sean and and Zach sit down and
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  Speaker 1: Sean go Zack, you weren't the popular choice to be
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  Speaker 1: the bachelor? How are you going to handle that this season?
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  Speaker 1: Like the fact that, like maybe some of these women
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  Speaker 1: even here didn't expect you to be a bachelor. The
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: fans watching this show right now didn't know that you
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: were going to be the bachelor. That was not for
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  Speaker 1: How how do you respond to that? Zach? What do
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you what do you want to get out of this season?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: If you know you're going into it as the underdog?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: We didn't get any of that. It just kind of
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: felt like we skipped over and tried to make Zac
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: look like this really desirable do that everybody wants, And
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, wait, that might be true, and he's good
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: looking and he's tall, and he might be super nice,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to take that away from him,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: but it's not what we know of him yet. We
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: don't know that as viewers yet, we don't know that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he's a desirable person. You've just kind of thrown us
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: into that to believe it, and I don't know if
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I believe it yet. I think that they were trying
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to pretend like that just wasn't a thing. You can't
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: pretend like it's They were like, oh, were compensating by
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: its being like, we're not even going to address the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: fact that the fandom isn't really into this choice. We're
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: going to lean into the fact that these girls are
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: supposedly very into the choice. Like there was that montage
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: of the girls watching the Bachelor announcement and that was
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just so cringe e because uh, the girls were gonna
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: scream even if you announced Peee Herman as the Bachelor's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: good point, I agree, and so you can't ignore it,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why they are. The beauty of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the show was the vulnerability of the show, the vulnerability
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of the storyline, the vulnerability of the journeys of each
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: person who is either placed as the lead or coming
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: onto the show to experience and fine love. Zach storyline
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: is different. We don't know. Necessarily, you can get more
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of the details of this by listening to last week's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: podcast with Zack and Ashley. Uh, but we don't know
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the details of why he left Rachel. As viewers, if
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: they don't listen to this podcast, they have no clue
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: why the Rachel's act situation didn't work out. You also,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: as a viewer, probably don't know Zach after last season.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: You and I might know he was announced as the Bachelor,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: but you're probably as most people are going, why Zach? Now,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: not that I'm against it, but why Zach? He's a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: nice guy? Okay, cool? And then we just get thrown
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: into this. And this is why I said, the show
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: has to I said this last season, the show has
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to be very careful of trying to convince the audience
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of something that's not true. And this season it felt
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like they tried to do it. From night one. They
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: tried to convince us that everybody wanted Zack and that's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: not true. And so are you gonna lose my trust
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: or are you going to disrespect me as a viewer
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to think that my knowledge of the show and watching
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: it year over year year and try to convince me
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that Zack was the most desirable choice. He is not,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And and Zach knows that. Right after you're like podcast
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: last week, we know that Zach knows that, and that's okay. Yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I was the popular choice. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if Nick vile was a popular choice and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: stop that now you were the most shoeing that there
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: ever has been. Okay, fair that that might be true
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: also and that and that's great and and but what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: do they do with that? They also didn't, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: hide the fact that, hey, we don't really have anybody
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: else here, so like, but they did. And I think
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that is what's frustrating to the fandom too. It's like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: there's some there's multiple guys that they would have rather
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: see because they felt like they knew them more via
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Paradise or whatever, and still play into that, like, just
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: give me, give me the opportunity to hear Zach respond
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to why he thinks he should be the lead, like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: why he is the one that they chose to find love.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Definitely answered that on the podcast, but they didn't do
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: it on the show. We're talking about the show here
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: on the On the podcast, I think you get a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: lot of details of Zach. I think you're gonna like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: him more. I think you're gonna understand him. I think
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you're gonna see like what could potentially make him a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: really fun lead to follow. My critique of this show
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in general on night one was it felt like it
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: was misleading, and it felt like it didn't ever confront
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the elephant in the room that would have been a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: beautiful elephant in the room to confront Zach, Who are you?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Why are you here? Why should fans like to follow you?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You remember another like cringe moment of them doing this
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: was them showing him being a DJ in high school
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and then what was the other thing they showed? Yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I just remember the DJ because it's like, maybe he'll
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: d his own wedding and it's like why would he
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: do a little throwback clips? And then and then they're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: like see now you know I mean, isn't he a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: fun guy? Oh? I think he? I think he the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: basic Yeah, he was in a band, and so begin
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm being very critical, Okay, as we always are
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the first episode of the first episode, we always are.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure again Zach is I cannot wait to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: meet him. I'm very excited to meet him. But to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: convince us that he's a cool dude who we're gonna
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: love to follow, they show us that he was once
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a DJ in high school and he played in a band.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Like that's what we got. Like, it's not like he
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, those are impressive, and there's a cool
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and there's a great traits. Right, but last you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: our last bachelor was a professional football player, so like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just different, Like he was he
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was cool in high school? Is that what we're trying
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to say, Like has he not done anything since? Is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what does his life look like now? And it felt
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like they just felt so short on convincing us and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and and they tried so hard, right we have the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he played in a band, he was a DJ, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: then they have the segment with all the women being
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: excited about Zack being the Bachelor, and then they have
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, him curling, and then you know, it's like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they tried really hard, and I just think they didn't.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: And so the first episode kind of feel like a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: throwaway to me because what they tried to do did
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not work. That's my opinion, very very very well put,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: very well put. Should we jump into the girls now?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I will say there are some there's a good memorable girls.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that they brought back packages because I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: remembering correctly that like last year there wasn't packages or
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: one of the past few seasons there wasn't. And I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: do think it gets you to know the main characters better. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: they're they're really There are some ones that I feel
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like he has an actual chance with. Um. I say
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that as if there's not normally, but you know what
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there are girls that I can like
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: five that I can name and be like, Okay, this one,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: this one, this one, these are the ones to watch
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: half for. Brianna is well, she's the last one. At
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the moment, we know she's safe. This is like kind
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of a little recap that we get at the beginning
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of the episode. You know that she's safe because she's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: got America's first impression Rose. Um. There were five girls
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: at after the phone, Rose Bailey your friend being one
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of them, and he ends up forgetting her name. Um,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he calls her Baylin and whatever. You know that things
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like that happen. Um. Then there's Catherine and that's her.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: She's got a package next. And I feel like Catherine
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is very much a front runner right now. I would
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: talk about how attractive she is, and she has like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a nice calumnist there's something there anything else said about Catherine. No,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think she I think Katherine. I don't remember the
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: girl's name um, which I'm sure we can find out
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: very soon and I'll reference it. I think the two
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: front runners are Katherine and then Um for me, the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: girl that no not career, I mean yeah, sure, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: mean she's up there, but it would be the girl
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that kind of um consoled Madison as she was walking out.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: She was very calm and she was kind of like
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I can she like made a Harry wise and like, um,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: just carrying comment where She's like I can kind of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: see that some of the girls are getting upset and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: that that's tough, and you know, she's just kind of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: like going to be there for the girls. I don't
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: know her name, will find that out, but yeah, Catherine
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is definitely a front runner to me. She's somebody that
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: stood out. UM. She's beautiful, like you said, she's calm,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: she's collected, and she just feels like she belongs there. Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Christina is up next as far as the packages goes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: She's so Nashville. She has a five year old daughter.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: She's got a vibe. I don't know whether she's going
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to be a vibe for Zach, but she's definitely getting
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: from in the house. She might be a shipster. What
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: do you think or is she going to be a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: girls girl. I think she'll be a girls girl. I do.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I think she Yeah, I think she's gonna be a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: big personality. I just don't think she's going to try
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to like mess things up. I just think she's gonna
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: be a big personality in the house that the girls
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are going to either like really gravitate to or the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: quieter ones are just kind of gonna sit back on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the set. She looks exactly like Kelsey Ballerini meets Lauren Conrad.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Is she the one that at the end of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: episode was doing the kegels? Yeah, I think so. I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: like that part. I was like, that girl's chill, like
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: she's funny. She was responding to their questions really well.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: She was like making a lot of humor out of it. Um.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, that girl could go a long ways,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like she's got she's got what it takes m hm.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And then Charity. She is a child family therapist. She
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: loves her job, she finds it really rewarding. Uh. She
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: she's eager to get married. Jared pointed out that he
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: hates it when the girls say eager to get married,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: because it's like, are you eager to find like somebody
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life with, or do you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just like want the the what d you doesn't want
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that title? We are we looking to into it? I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: think what he would prefer then them to say, I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just really ready to find love. Yeah, okay, I mean
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that's what they meant. Yeah, you know, I'm sure it is.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember charity Charity. I know if I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: saw her face, I would I know Charity because I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: think he made the comment about how beautiful her name was,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Uh you need your name was, so I do remember that. Um.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I think all the packages highlighted women who are going
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to be there a while. I don't think any of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the packages home one night one right right. That is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a big thing because sometimes they pepper in packages from
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: women who like leave night one and it's just like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: why did you even waste that time? Yeah, these girls,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I definitely think are here to stay. So Career's next.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: She's in Houston, Texas, and we see later in the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: episode that they have a real bonding moment about Texas.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Their conversation is probably the easiest of the night. Would
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you agree with that? She's also just like that girl
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that barely has any makeup on and looks great and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: guys lover. Yeah, it's definitely one of the easiest conversations
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think I'm getting every season. You try to understand
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: the lead and I think I know zax um thing
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: when he's feeling awkward or nervous, and he closes his
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: eyes when he talks, like he's saying words and closing
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: his eyes at the same time, because I think he's nervous,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: which is fairy right. I licked my lips. Everybody has
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a thing um with her. He didn't close his eyes
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and talk. He he was very in the moment. It
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: felt very relaxed, and from my perspective, if since he
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't doing that, he was just enjoying the conversation, which
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is a good sign. Yeah, she made him feel so
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: comfortable because she was way more comfortable in the environment
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: than he was. And I think he could just be like, oh, okay,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her carry this, and that made him
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: feel just at ease. You need that. Yeah, Okay. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, she's the rodeo girl. I don't really think
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that anything else stood out about her to me. But
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Brianna is next and Brianna was again the first impression Rose.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: She has her own beauty company. I feel like she's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be around for a while or do you think
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that she's gonna be one of those Well, she's not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a first impression Rose, she's America's first impression Ros. Do
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you think that she's gonna be around a while or
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: this is just America's choice in Zack's like not as
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: into it as America's. I don't know how you wouldn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: be into it. Yeah, she's stunning, Yeah, and she seems
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: really sweet. She was great, Um, she didn't. She didn't
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: cause drama. Like she could have easily been the person
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that had the rose walking in and then also just
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: go in and like be reckless with it, and she wasn't.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And so I think she'll be around a long time. Uh,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And I I feel like she's gonna be somebody that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: we really get to know through this show. So America
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: made a good choice with that first Impression Rose. You
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: think the producers gave her that rose dress? Yes, there's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: no way. She just had it in her luggage. Well,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of something that I would do. Yeah, No,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I think she I mean, my my guess is that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that was set up well. She looked great in that dress.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Beautiful all right. Next up in the last package was
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Katie from Austin, and she's a nurse and she also
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: really makes me feel like she's going to be there
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: for a while. I think that he's very into her. Again,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: there's the same sort of like composure, calmness, beauty. They
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: really couldn't go wrong a lot of nurses this season.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: If anything ever happens in the house, I feel like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they're very well protected. A lot of nurses this season. Yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to it. Like the packages
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: this season seemed to introduce people who we're going to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: be around and going to be there, which is why
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I went through the packages. You know. I was like, Okay,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: let's go through the package because let's just talk about
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: these girls. Because when I look back on the episode,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: thes are pretty much the girls that I remember through
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: limo entrances. Do you remember any I don't. I have
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to say not a lot of entrances really stood out
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to me. There wasn't a lot of shock factor entrances,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: which I am down for. Let's just get through it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I thought that it was discussing that that one girl
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: licked his ear. I mean I wouldn't like that. No,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: but I mean it happens. No, you wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: It's gross. She well, she didn't make it past night one,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I know, of course she didn't. Yeah, it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: not it's like, like it's not a great thing. I
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: mean a couple of things in the limit entrances. One,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: why in the world that Jesse Palmer smells Zack's breath.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I don't do that with my wife. I don't want
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: her to do that to me. He's, you know, sticking
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: those way up there. It's like, if you think it's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: not great, then just hand him a listening stript. Weird
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: moment there. I don't know why it has to happen,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know. The really, there's only a few limit entrances that,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: um it's it out to me. One is that he
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: kissed Bailey. Uh yeah, kind of out of nowhere, kind
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of just like, hey, do you remember my name? Yeah, Bailey?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And then he leans in and kisses her. It's like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I mean cool, Like, if that's how we're gonna play this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: He felt so bad about forgetting her name on stage
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and this is only a couple of days after this,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and I think he was just like, how do I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: make her feel comfortable and know that, like she actually
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: did make an impression on me, But but I just
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember her name fair enough. Um. I don't
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: know if we've ever have we ever seen like a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: legit first kiss. No, we've seen like girls come in,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: come in and kiss him. Um, but have we seen
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the bleed? Actually, Like, I don't kiss somebody. It's like
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: on the limit entrances. I don't think so. I mean
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in a sense, and he already met Bailey kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: so like he's met her before. But in a lot
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: of ways, it would be if you take away the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: fact that they met on live tell television, it would
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: be somebody just getting out of a car for the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: first time, saying, hey, this is a great first day,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and then you're like cool and then you just lean in.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: That's so true. I don't know, no, no, I don't
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: think that's happened in the past that we've been watching. Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: but it's just the weirdest thing that even like these
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: people sit down for ten minutes and kiss. I was
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: thinking about this last night. Well, someone we're gonna talk
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: about you did it? You did it? Did you kiss
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, but like back in your day, you
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like kiss one or two people tops, Yeah, it can
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: have been more than one. Yeah, Like Crystals only kissed
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Britt and we didn't even know that until after the fact.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Some we're gonna talk about here coming up, um, right
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: after this break, we're gonna talk about the most kisses
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: we've ever seen on Night one? How do we feel
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: about it? Wait? Ben, is it really technically like have
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we Bachelor data? This? This is the seven seven kisses? No,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: don't do it, guys. It's so nice to only have
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: one or two like actually means something. I know that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: what's her name? Madison? She just threw herself at him,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: so like does that you know? And and Holland you know, um,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Holland him It was Madison. It was Madison. Sorry Madison. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Holland had the entrance I did remember you went to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Holland last season. You were in the wrong Holland. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: thought it was kind of funny, funny. It wasn't dirty
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: enough to be like, yeah, this is kind of funny.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Another entrance that I have to say I remembered was
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: actually Madison's because I think her insecurity started creeping up
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: early when he didn't like the taste of the syrup,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: which like, why was he so weird about the syrup?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You like it sugar? I don't know so, Ashley. If
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you remember back a few years ago, I had this
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: ery on this show. When you're the lead, you start
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: making out when conversation feels duck, when you feel awkward. Uh,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you might be physically attracted the person, You might be
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: attracted to the person, but you have nothing else to say.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And I think I said it a few seasons ago,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I said, I am watching as a viewer to see
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: how many kissing scenes we see and how many conversations
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: we see. I think it was Matt James this season
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: when we were complaining throughout the season that we don't
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: really know these women, that all we're seeing is Matt
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: kissing them, and we don't know these women because we
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like Matt was asking the follow up questions,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: asking the questions that were obvious, asking the things that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: would bring out who the person is and why they
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: are the way they are. Night one for me makes
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: me concerned for that for the rest of the season,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: because I felt like he was kissing people. Now he
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: was asking, and it was sweet at times, and and
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: maybe it felt appropriate. But night one is a very
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: easy night for conversations. You know nothing about this person.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: You can ask anything and you're gonna learn it, and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna follow up and you're gonna hear more and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: get to understand who these people are. Night one, to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: me feels like it's a very odd time to kiss
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: seven people because I, from my perspective and my judgment,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: would say, you're covering up the fact that you don't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: know what else to talk about. And if you're already
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: feeling that way on night one, when it's the easiest
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to have things to talk about, how is it gonna
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: look in week six. It's interesting that you say night
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: one is the easiest thing to the easiest time to talk,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and now I'm thinking I kind of agree. It's because
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: everyone's strangers, so you literally like, so tell me about
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: your life, and like those those things can pick up
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a conversation really easily. Yeah, it's the dates that are
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: like nine hours long and they're so quiet that makes
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you feel a bit more awkward. We have to understand
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that as when you're in that these conversations are no
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: more than ten minutes long. They there are most ten
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: minutes would be a long first night conversation. They're very short,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and so within that five to ten minutes, if you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: are kissing them, then you are obviously either moving very
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: quickly and you're just feeling the physical vibe. If it
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: was with one person, I'd say, WHOA, there's a connection there, right,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: it's the it's it's something, there's some fire that they're
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: seeing in each other. But when it happens seven times,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I am hesitant and I am concerned about the fact
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that you can't carry a conversation for five minutes to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: ten minutes with somebody that you've never met before, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: as a result, you have to kiss them to show
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: them that you're interested. Is there not another way to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: show him you're interested, Marty? Just tell them, Hey, I
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed this conversation. I'm very like attracted to you.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to get to know you more. There's so
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: much more I have to learn about you. Instead, the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: default is let's just make out, which also is not
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a great thing for the other woman to see. It
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: was something that most bachelors are very protective of is Hey,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I don't want to kiss somebody in front of other women.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: You know some of these women, one of these women
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: might be my wife. I don't want her to see
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: me making out with somebody else. But there was no
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: shame in that this season. There's no shame. Everybody saw everything,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: like every kiss the women are watching now. That could
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: be the producers, could be I don't know, but night
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: one is not the night to do it. It's an
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: open stage. It's an open area. There's not a lot
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: of place to hide. If it would if if I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: was on the advisement committee, I would say, hey, just
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: cool up for night one. Start night to do it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: that time. Here's a small theory. Maybe because there wasn't
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: as much of an interest in him, they thought, how
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: do we make women really go crazy and how do
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: we get them to be possessive of? And that could
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: be watching him get physical with another girl. Possibly. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just really spitballing here. I mean, I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: think I don't really think that's what it is. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: think your theory is correct. I think he probably just
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: felt a little awkward and he was like, what do
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I know how to do? Which is the concern for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: most people going into this season that Zak is going
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to be very awkward and hard to watch, right, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: mean that's that's that is the critique of this season
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: going into it. So this didn't help me on that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: All right, well, Ben, I mean you're on fire today.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: You could literally have done this podcast on your own.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: He's got these theories and got bullet points, and you
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: really analyze this episode. I love it. Well. I want
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Zack to thrive, I do. I want this to be
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a great season for him. I want him to come
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: out of this finding love. I think Zach is I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: will say this, I think he is the type of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: person that will come off the show with a partner
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and I would not be shock if they're going to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: be together forever. I do think he has the desire
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to find love. I think he has um the openness
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to this experience. I also think Zach is looking at
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: this thing like I kind of hit the lottery, Like,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I have thirtiesome beautiful women here trying to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: date me and just like falling over me. And I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: don't know how many times that's happened in Zack's life.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Were like you know, he's been pursued in this kind
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of like capacity, and so I think it's a good
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: opportunity for him. I do. I think Zach could give
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: us a great love story, and I'm excited to watch that.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I would just say, yes, my my night. One critiques
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: are very critical because I didn't get anything that I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: was wanting to get her. I think a lot of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: viewers were wanting to get out of this first episode.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I just concur That's all I can say that I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm pretty much everything you're saying. I mean,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Jesse even said Zack's like has this like he's so funny,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: has this great sense of humor. It's like, what, we
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: haven't seen any of it, and we didn't see any
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: of it, Like, okay, then show him cracking a joke.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: She'll make him fun of himself. Speaking of like trying
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to be funny, I guess was Madison's moment when she
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: was dancing what was it called the giddy the jitty
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: they with the dance whenever. I've never heard of it before.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: But also I'm like, mom, is it okay? I'm say,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: uh so they're doing the dance thing and then she
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: kisses him and it's awkward. And then he's like he
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but first he was like, I don't want to dance anymore.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Let's not dancing, Moore, that's enough. And then she kisses
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: him and he's like, let's continue to dance. So awkward,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: he wasn't into it. But it was also like she
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was being a little cry She was, but it's also
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what kind of expectations everybody
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: has going in to night one. It felt like she
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: had a lot, like I just want him to recognize me.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, you got one thirty chance for that,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: so don't freak out if on night one you're not
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the one that stands out. You've got a long time
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: in front of here, still out, hang out, have a drink.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, all I want is a little like
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: sparkle in his eye, like to see him like maybe
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: like double take at me. That's all I'm asking for.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a lot, and you're kind of
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: in a whirlwind as the lead. You're turning in circles,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like every second you get there's somebody coming from this direction,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in this direction, in this direction, and to focus on
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: one person, to recognize one person, and to have that
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: sparkle like that that is doesn't happen every season. So
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I wish, you know, she would have been told, hey,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: just take a seat, hang out, you're good. She may
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: have made it through the night. She may have made
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: it through the night she she died. She could have
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: made it through the night. She reminded me a lot
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: of how Lace uh kind of felt on um my season.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Lace was overwhelmed with just like so much happening and
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: there is a lot happening, and there's cameras, and there's people,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and there's conversations, and then you all all, you all
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: are pursuing this one lead. And if if if you're
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: not like maybe in a great space, if you're not confident,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: if you have some like insecurities that maybe you haven't
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: spoken to or tried to work through, they will come
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: out and they can come out and they can come
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: out with a vengeance. And sometimes we don't see those
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: insecurities for a couple of weeks on this show. But
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Lace just needed to go home, like she did.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: She just and then that that was not necessarily even
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: my decisions. She just knew she needed to get out
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: of there because it wasn't creating a healthy environment for her.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think the same thing from Madison. She needed to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: go home. As soon as she started to cry on
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: night one, like she was, the first thing I thought
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: was like, this girl needs to get out of here.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: This is not going to be healthy for her. This
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: is not gonna get any better for her. This is
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: not going to be one of those people, as we've
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: talked about, who leaves this show no matter when they
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: leave it and say I'm glad I did it. Yeah,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: leaving on night one is usually and it would be
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: crying over. It's obviously not about you thinking that that
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: guy is your person. It's about like just the national rejection. Yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: which which sucks. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure that hurts,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's weird, and I'm sure you have
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she said I give up my
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: life for this. I don't know what kind of life
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: she gave up for this. Don't do that. If anybody's
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: listening and they're thinking about going on the show next season,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: don't give up your life for this show. Like figure
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: out a way to you know, block out some time,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: but like, don't go into this thinking that life's gonna change.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: For you. Traditionally it doesn't. Historically it doesn't, and so
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: don't have that perspective, and it puts too much pressure
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: on the situation. It puts so much weight on every
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: interaction with the lead. You want to make sure this
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: person is right for you. You want to make sure
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you're right for them, and just hang out, have fun
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: with it. Treat it like a sorority house or a
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: frat house, like, just enjoy the ride for as long
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: as you're riding. M all right. Well, when we look
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: at the rejects, Kara, Laca, Holland, Olivia, l Olivia, m Becca, Sonja, Vanessa,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and Victoria, I don't remember any of them except for
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like who licked him and then Holland who wanted him
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: inside her? Do you remember? And it's pretty pretty typical
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: of the first row ceremony. It is there was one
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: girl that I had never seen. She was like a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: taller blonde um who was very pretty that kind of
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: like snuck up and she was gone. I don't know
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: who what her name was, but I was like, huh,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: we never saw anything about her, but I don't even
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: if we saw her limit limo entrance. Um. So that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was maybe a little of a shock. There's always one.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Gotta be the grocery shore jail. Yeah, yeah, definitely, So no,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: nothing surprising on night one. Don't think any of our standouts,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: any of the people focused on, didn't get shown and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: they had to go home, so night one's over. It
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: did look eerily bright, like the sun was every time.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Every season it gets brighter and brighter. I was gonna say,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: like some seasons you can kind of see the sun
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: coming up over the mountains there. Um, this season, it
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: felt like the sun was nice and high in the sky.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Time it was lunchtime. Those poor girls had to go
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: back to the hotel and sleep and then wake up
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and get back on a flight and go home and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what just happened to me?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Not a flight, It was weird. Yeah, what flight are
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you talking about? For all the people that had to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: go home on nightline. Oh, those girls had to go home, Okay,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: they had to fly home. I don't think they ride
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: their bikes. Oh no, sorry, thinking thinking about the other girls.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: They go to the hotel for a night and then
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: pack up their stuff and then move into the mansion.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: The next night. They're moving into the mansion so overall,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it was a Night one. I'm not going to get
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: too critical of the rest of the season. I don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: know the highlights for the rest of season look like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: how every season goes. There's tears, and there's people upset,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and there's people leaving, and there's you know, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Zack fully sharing how much he wishes somebody would come back.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be, um a fine season.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I was hoping Night one just kind of blasted us
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: off into this whole new stratosphere of excitement. I would
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: say this could probably be another season where Week three
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I don't watch till Week six and I'm fine with it. Um,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I hope not, but we'll find out next week after
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: watching the episode. And it's been another season where they
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: decided not to mix up Night one. I just want
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: something crazy on Night one. Yeah, mix it up a
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: little bit, like give us something different. I'll say. In
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the scene to the next episode, there's like no fence jump,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: but there's no moment that they'll be teasing for a while,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: which kind of makes me nervous. Well, I think the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: part that they'll be teasing will be the fact that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: somebody leaves or that he lets somebody go home that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: he really wishes comes back. Yeah, which, hey, I would
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: be a good storyline. Yeah, alright, Ashley, we uh, we
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: gotta do headlines. There are a few today. Um, let's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: dive into it. There's Bachelor Nation headlines. The first headline
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: is one that threw me off, surprised me, um, saddened
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: me um as. I know a lot of people in
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation felt. Former bachelorette Dianna and stevens split after
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: eleven years of marriage. I know so sad. So if
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you guys don't know their backstory, Steven Stagliano was actually
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the brother of somebody who was a contestant on another
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: prior prior Bachelor at season, and the two of them
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: met through Bachelor Nation and they've been married for eleven years.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And they said, it's with immense sadness that Stephen and
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I have decided to end our relationship as a couple.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: We've been working hard for a long time, both as
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a married couple and its individuals, and have come to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the conclusion to remain separate. We remain loving parents who
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: are beautiful children Addison in Austin, and will continue to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: raise them together with love and faith and we respect
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and please respect our privacy during the civil of time
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: as we navigate the new normal. Um, they've been the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: children are eight and six, and she said in two
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: thousand eighteen she opened up about the marriage and she said,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: we think you're crazy if you don't go to therapy. Um.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: We are all a product of our environment and how
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: we were raised, and none of us are perfect. Yeah. Well,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it's tough news. We had her on the podcast last
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: year as they were moving. UM, I remember talking to her,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: wishing the best as they start this new journey. As
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: they say, UM, co parenting still but doing it in
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: separate places. Well, Kristen Cavalary seemingly confirms date with Tyler Cameron.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: UM romance speculation. This is a good headline. So if
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you guys remember on New Year's Eve, UM, it was
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Kristen and her hairstylist and his boyfriend with Tyler and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Caitlin and Jason out to dinner and people are like, well,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: it seems like everybody at that table is coupled up. Well,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: now she's kind of seemingly confirming this because she says,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: my last date was public. She said this on her podcast.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: My last day was public, So if you really want
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to know, I guess you can google it. I know
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: she said that. Um, she doesn't have to say it,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: but it was New Year's weekend, New Year's Eve weekend,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and uh, that's that's all she said. But she will
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: let you know when she's getting someone serious and is
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: it a committed relationship. She's the kind of person that
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: will shout it from the rooftops. But until then, she's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: not going to comment on her love life any further, said,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: your girl's going to have fun. So they met you, guys,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: um when they were doing a collab for something. I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: think he was modeling something, perhaps without com James, Yeah, James, Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: So now you know, we always kind of thought this
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: would happen, always assumed. Well, Natasha Parker leaves Bachelor podcast
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: because of issues with franchise. Did you hear about this? Weird?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I mean not weird. I mean I'm sure there's a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: good reason for it, but she's very vague about it.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: She talks about it on click Bait. She said she's
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: leaving the podcast. She says that she's not going to
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: get into the who, what, why, and where and all
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, but in the past six months, she's
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: seen stuff happening in the franchise that is basically not
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: for her. She says, sometimes being part of the franchise
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: is hard to continue with and just like let that
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: be that. She says, the click pay producers are amazing
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and she wants to continue podcasting. But he's like in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: her own way, so we really don't get much. We
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. We don't know what happened
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  Speaker 1: in the last six months that made her make this decision.
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  Speaker 1: Six months. Yeah, so maybe we'll find out if she
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: does come out with her new show. I'll be listening
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: to that. Well. Next inline is this shooting her shot
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Bachelor alum Michelle Young since flirty message to Michael B.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Jordan's So this is this really funny TikTok trend where
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: basically it goes my mom says, never get into a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: stranger's car, and then you show a stranger who's really
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: hot pretty much a celebrity. IM pretty sure it's always
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a celebrity in the next little flash, and then you
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: show yourself or this guy getting into the car to
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: crazy manner. I personally love the Joe Burrow one, but
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: in Michelle's case, she's putting she's putting Michael b Jordan's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in that car, saying get in, and she jumps right in.
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  Speaker 1: So she's not saying this really directly to Michael b Jordan's,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: but she's putting the video out there and we are.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I am hoping that this becomes a thing and then
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he sees it and reaches out. I hope so well.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Speaking of romance, bachelorette Gabby Wendy in Jersey Shore's Vinny
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: caught holding hands on Flirty night out for Dancing with
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the Stars tour stop. All right, the headline is misleading.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: They weren't caught holding hands on a Flirty unit out
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  Speaker 1: for Dancing with the Stars. The held hands on stage
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a Dancing with the Stars. I'm reading these little bits,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: you know that they are um in Atlantic City, that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: they did Ford shows together in Atlantic City, and everybody's like,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you know, doing this the dating speculation and they're like
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: always flirtatious, blah blah. But then like I get to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the crux of this article and it just says that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: they're holding hands on stage and it seemed genuine like
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: this is no, this is exactly what they do. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: headlines and it's so silly. They held hands when they
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: bowed to the audience at the end. It seemed like
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: they held hands a few times, but it could have
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: been a part of a routine. So in the end,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: still kind of they are they? Are they not? Are they?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Or are they not? Situation with Gabby and Vinny. I
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: think they could be playing into it. We're rooting it on.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Can it just happen? Do you think at this point
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it's just like they're just kind of playing with it
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: and it's not legit because it would have like we
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: would have seen more and heard more if it was
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: still happen. Next headline one that will celebrate Bachelor Paradise Alam.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Michelle Money engaged to golfer Mike Weir. Me and you
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: forever is her quote. Alright, So Michelle Money and her
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: her now fiance golfer mic Weir have been together for
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: seven years and they haven't talked about um basically not
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: getting married in the past, just being like, we are
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: committed to each other forever, but we don't need a
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: piece of paper to make it legally official. But now
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: they've changed their mind. Michelle talks about on her into story.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I think she just was like you know, let's it's
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: just a change of mind, truly, and the two of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: them had really cute Instagram posts I love you, I'm
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: so lucky, um mine, and of course Bachelor Nation was
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: very prominent in the comments underneath um all congratulating them
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and so happy. Michelle Money is a serious favorite of
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the franchise. She definitely is. We're really really excited for her. UM. Well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: that's all the headlines we have for you today. I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: do want to say, Ashley that as you were breaking
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: this down, the ratings for last night came out. Oh god.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: The headline is speaking that the Bachelor producers and exects
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: do believe the season will be down and may um
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: hurt the show drastically in some capacity. Last night the
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: show had two point eight million viewers and a zero
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: point six rating. It's down from last year's even premiere
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: of three point five million viewers and a point eight ratings,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: So it's down seven thousand viewers. That is not good.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: It's down to two point eight million viewers um, which
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: is a drastic decline from even four years ago. Klein
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in a year, massive decline, huge percentage there. So it
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: makes us wonder once again If the headline is that
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor producers are concerned internally about this season having
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: low ratings, why in the world are they making the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: decisions they're making. That's not for us to side. That's
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: for us to analyze and to critique and to make
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: assumptions about. And we'll do that every week right here
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous Podcast. Yes we will, So until
• 57:10
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• 57:16
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