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Back to Biblical Authority and ‘Book, Chapter, Verse’ · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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  Hey guys, welcome to another show and man, another popular guest.
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  Maybe you've got to have these people back because I love the people I get to talk to
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  and interview.
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  It's always inspiring and encouraging to me and this brother I haven't talked to in
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  quite a while.
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  But before I get to him, I want to remind you, if you're in the Green Bay or Northeast
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  Wisconsin area, I will be speaking at the Men of Iron Conference.
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  It's Saturday, October 14.
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  Men of Iron Conference.org.
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  If you're on Facebook, there's a group there.
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  I'm sorry ladies, this is just for the men.
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  Facebook group Men of Iron Conference.
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  So check that out.
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  Well, I want to get it right into.
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  We're going to talk about a lot of issues today, a lot of different topics and catch up
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  with a friend of mine from Texas.
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  His name is Seiko Woods.
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  He founded his word, his way, Fellowship Church in Sugarland, Texas in 2009.
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  He served as a pastor, teacher until 2016.
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  He received his theological training and education at the College of Biblical Studies
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  in Houston.
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  He also has received training in Biblical counseling.
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  His passion is to equip the body of Christ to mature and to develop Biblical discernment.
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  Thank you brother.
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  We need more of that and cultivate a Biblical worldview in order to respond to the issues
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  of today's culture with the authoritative Word of God, which is the final authority.
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  So you can tell why I love him, him and his wife Sharon of six children, four daughters
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  and two sons and also two grandchildren.
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  And he also is a social media content creator of the BCV book, chapter and verse channel.
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  And also the him and his wife also co-hosted Love, Life and Marriage with the Woods on
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  YouTube.
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  So Seiko Woods, God bless you brother, welcome to World View Matters.
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  Brother, thank you, man, for having me on a long time.
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  No seat in here, but I'm here.
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  Yeah.
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  Thank you so much.
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  I'm looking forward to this conversation.
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  I've always loved your first of all, your grounded in the truth, but you're a straight
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  talker and we can't waste time anymore this day and age.
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  There's so much going on around us.
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  And there are so many demonic agendas that are going on.
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  So I appreciate people who just talk straight and say, this is how it is.
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  Here's what the Bible teaches in Christian.
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  Here's how we need to respond to all that's going on.
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  A lot of different things that I wanted to ask you about, but first I just wanted to
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  catch up with you, BCV.
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  I remember last time you had a hat on with that.
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  How's that going or what's new with the book chapter and verse?
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  I don't know if anybody else that uses that, but when I hear BCV, I think it's Seiko Woods.
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  Well, I'm glad you think of me that way.
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  There's a lot of people that don't, but yeah, BCV book type diverse, it was a concept
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  that the Lord had put on my heart years ago when I was pastoring actively at his word
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  his way, which I had found it back in 2009.
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  And so the gist behind it was anything that I say, anything that came across to put
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  it, anything that I would teach, I wanted to have book chapter verse.
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  And so I had instilled it upon those that were under my pastoral care.
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  And I would have dialogue, even debates with some people, it just started to flow out
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  of my mouth.
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  And so I would say, show me book chapter verse where you're getting this concept for you.
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  Show me book chapter verse where it says that men and men can marry.
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  Show me book chapter verse where it says men and women and women can marry and things
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  like anything that was antithetical to the scriptures, I basically pressed upon those
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  to provide a biblical premise and support to their position.
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  And so in most cases, it never would pass muster.
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  But for those that it did, we will basically show how the Word of God is the standard and
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  by which we are to govern our lives.
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  And so it stuck.
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  I used that as a moniker and as a template for my ministry on my YouTube channel.
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  And also for my ministry, my wife, my lovely wife sharing what our love life emanates
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  with the woods.
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  And so it is basically a concept that we hold to and that we adopt and we hope others
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  will hold to that as well.
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  Amen.
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  A double amen, brother, because I want to camp out here for a minute.
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  What you said is so important because we hear all kinds of things that people are putting
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  out there, thinking they're biblical or whatever.
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  And if you don't go back to the Word of God, and as you say, can you give me a couple
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  references on that when they're trying to say something about a belief or a doctrine.
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  Give me the book, give me the chapter, and give me the verse so I can look at it.
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  But even still, say, go, I know you found this a lot too.
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  They'll take it out of context.
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  They'll give you a verse, but it'll be completely ripped out of context.
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  The one that comes to mind is judgey not, let's do judge anything.
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  So we are not supposed to say anything to to analyze fruit or judge people.
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  Just give me a couple of examples, maybe that you heard people using that ripping it out
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  of context after you say, yeah, but that was.
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  That was one of the main ones I was thinking about.
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  So Matthew chapter seven verse one through five, if you read it and it's entirely in the
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  context of which, which, you know, Jesus is referring to, people that would say, will tell
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  you about it.
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  We can't judge.
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  We shouldn't judge.
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  They'll, they'll decide Matthew chapter seven verse one.
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  Oh, see the Bible says judgey not.
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  Yeah.
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  But it didn't just stop there.
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  It says judgey not, for you shall be judgeable over the same judgment.
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  You shall be judge.
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  And he tells you clearly how we are to judge with a deal with our own sin, deal with our
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  own hypocrisy, then deal with the sin or the issue that we're supposed to lovingly help
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  our brother and sister with.
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  And so it's not condemning judging.
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  What is it is condemning is hypocritical or hyper judgment to individuals of people.
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  So Matthew chapter seven verse one through five is another.
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  When you have people talk about Jesus Christ not being God.
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  What?
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  That's it.
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  That's a brainer.
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  He is God.
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  God manifested in the flesh in the beginning was the word where was with God, the where
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  was God.
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  You have John chapter one verse one.
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  And if you look at the tens of the verb and the Greek is speaking about a personal relationship
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  that the son has with the father, he has a face to face or a personal relationship with
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  God, the father always had always will be and continues to have so even right now.
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  So that is one in and of itself as well.
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  So I mean, there's a plethora of verses I know we only had much time, but those are just
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  the main ones that I can basically recall that we can talk about on how scripture is
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  not being applied according to a burial intent.
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  It will be misapplied according to the biases and the attitudes of those who do not know
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  the word of God.
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  So what do you think about the church today?
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  I mean, even in the last since we talked last, which has been a few years, we've seen
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  Barnabew, Gallup, whenever they do this research and the polls come out, it seems like
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  the decline continues to go down.
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  And I'm talking about the biblical worldview, even in churches, I wanted to ask you,
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  Seiko, what did you think about the one that came out?
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  I think it was last year where like 37% of Christian pastors have a biblical worldview.
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  So that means the majority do not have a biblical worldview.
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  So I don't know what the heck they're teaching.
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  Maybe they're having seminars on how to be a good, I don't know, American.
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  I don't know what they're doing at their churches, their secret sensitive or whatever.
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  But when you've got that many pastors, the majority don't even align with the biblical
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  worldview.
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  I wanted to get your thoughts on that because we've seen the decline over the decades.
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  Yeah.
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  And it isn't getting worse and it's going to, it's going to decline even more so.
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  And why?
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  Well, it goes back again.
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  What does the word of God say?
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  The first Timothy chapter four verse one.
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  In the last days, some of the part from the faith giving heed to deceitful spirits and
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  doctrines of demons.
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  So if there's no, if there's no indicator that we're in the last days, all we have to
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  do is like you said, look at the recent reports.
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  Look at Barnum, look at, look at, look at our churches today.
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  When you say, you know, 37% of people have a biblical worldview, that's 60% of other
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  people.
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  It's over 60% of other people that don't have a biblical worldview.
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  So now, if you don't have a biblical worldview day, then how can you be a pastor?
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  Number one, that's the first one.
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  Secondly, how can you be a Christian if you don't have a biblical worldview?
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  We are under attack, brother.
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  We're under attack.
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  Before we even talk about the church, we're under attack in our homes because we know
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  that the church is a byproduct of the home.
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  So as the home goes, there goes the church.
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  So we have the start back at the very basic, at the first institution that God has established
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  and that is the family.
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  And so Satan has made a full frontal attack against the family.
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  And so when you take out the head, when you take out the father, when you take out the
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  home, it starts at the head.
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  And so now, we see churches that have an unbiblical worldview because we have homes that
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  do not have a biblical worldview.
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  So there should be no surprise that when we see churches that are adopting the ways of
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  the world, all we have to do is just pivot and look at the family.
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  And there is our clear indicator.
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  Wow.
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  That's very important.
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  I want to share something here because we put a lot of, not blame necessarily on pastors.
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  But I mean, that's a tough job.
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  I admittedly so.
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  You were a pastor.
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  I was an associate pastor.
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  It is a hard job.
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  But you've got to lead and you've got to be biblical before you do anything else.
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  We have to take responsibility in our own homes.
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  That's the point you're making.
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  It's a great point because if we are not raising our own, and by the way, the church,
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  what is the church?
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  It's not a building, right?
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  The church is Ecclesia gathering, group.
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  We can have a church.
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  They started in homes, you know, in the early church days.
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  So yeah, there's a lot of responsibility on the man of the house, spiritual leader, head
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  of the household to say, all right, I've got to raise my family and sure that my family
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  is raised up on the word of God in the biblical worldview because we're seeing, I think of
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  Ephesians chapter four, just the opposite, actually, where today's pastors are not
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  equipping the saints.
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  So we're in a world of hurt, but we can't just put it all on the pastors and church leaders.
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  There's enough problems and issues there, but let's talk about what we can do now, individuals.
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  How do we respond, Seiko, to some of that's going on in the culture, some of the things?
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  And I want to ask you about a couple of specific things.
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  There's a tax on the word of God, there's a tax on Christianity, on pro-life pregnancy
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  centers.
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  Why?
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  Because Christians believe that life starts a conception and every human baby in a mother's
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  womb, every preborn baby, deserves to be born, right to life.
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  There's just some simple things, but we're seeing a tax coming against them.
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  How do you, when people want to argue with you about some of these things, give advice
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  to someone who, for example, my body, my choice.
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  How do you respond to simple things that are coming out of some Christians, say, well,
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  yeah, but, you know, that's a life in there, and then I've seen Christians arrested simply
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  for standing out on a sidewalk and saying, no, please have the baby.
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  We're praying for you to not go in there to a planned parenthood or whatever.
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  That's just one example.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, first of all, my body, my choice, my body does not belong to me.
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  It belongs to God.
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  There's ownership.
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  God is the one who gives us life, and so we have no right to unlawfully or sinfully take
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  it.
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  That's the first thing.
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  Secondly, when you were talking about babies, babies are, they are, they are made in the
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  image of God.
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  They're, they're not bellows of tissue, they're not what we call, quote unquote, reproductive
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  healthcare.
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  No, this is a life.
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  And so life begins at conception.
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  How does the one who originates life?
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  We have no right to take it unlawfully or sinfully from, from others or from individuals.
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  As a matter of fact, if we want to talk about the right to life, how much more right does
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  an individual like a baby have, life begins to life.
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  So when you have individuals that will try to use the abortion, or I would just call
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  it murder, because that's what it is, we need to appeal to them to understand that what
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  they're doing isn't a fence to God, that all life is precious, their life is precious.
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  And so there are organizations, there are institutions like the right to life, there
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  are institutions and individuals who want to help people to understand that there are
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  other alternatives to help individuals that may be pregnant, that may be even afraid.
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  And we need, we need to understand that as well too, there may be some teenage, you know,
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  some others out there, or young people, or even adults that would, that would rather
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  take that approach, but that's the wrong approach to take.
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  As Christians, we want to appeal to them to understand that life is precious, all life
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  is precious.
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  And so there are programs, there are alternatives that will help individuals to make the right
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  choice, do not murder and to not kill their babies.
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  That's right.
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  And that's why a lot of people go to these plan parenthood and other clinics outside
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  on the sidewalk, they're praying, they're trying to offer alternatives.
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  And yeah, I think that's another thing that we don't even have time to get into it, but
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  the Christian community has to be better at not only convincing a young girl to keep
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  her baby, but I'll help you take care of the baby if you allow it to be born.
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  That's a whole nother topic, but we don't have to take a break.
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  We're going to talk about a few news items when we come back, including a new poll showing
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  that Democrats are trending against free speech.
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  Also, Boston University opens an inquiry into Ibram X Kendi's anti-racism center.
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  I know Seiko has a lot to say about that, we'll be right back on World View Matters.
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  Seiko Woods is our guest today, and thanks for staying with us friends.
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  We have talked in the past, Seiko and I, on a lot of issues, lies that people in the
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  black community believe, but also the nation at large because of the media and the agendas
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  in the media, the leftist agendas in the media.
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  And one of those things is that we talk about reparations, we've talked about slavery
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  and all these things in American history, but now we've got people that are making money
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  off of people in the inner cities and impoverished people, minorities that really do need God,
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  they need help, but there are people taking advantage of that.
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  I think of Jesse Jackson, I think of Al Sharpton, but I want to talk about Ibram X Kendi and
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  get your take on this, Seiko.
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  Apparently there's some mismanagement of funding, there's the headline right there,
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  they're opening an inquiry into his anti-racism center, and apparently there's the lack
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  of accountability there and we can go into the details, but his center has raised tens
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  of millions of dollars, including, get this Seiko, $10 million from Jack Dorsey, Twitter
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  founder, $140,000 from George Soros, Open Society Foundation, and more because he's put
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  in critical race there and other things out there, so not surprising that now it's all
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  starting to catch up with them maybe, what does your take on this?
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  Well, it seems like it's the same tactic and same game and scheme as Black Lives Matter.
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  Remember Dave, Black Lives Matter, I believe they raised almost, was it $90 million or close
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  to $90 million or over $90 million, and I would just call it a guilt tripping, you know,
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  blame shifting, it doesn't mean that racism does not exist at all, but to say that here
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  in the 21st century, here in 2023, that as a black person, you and I cannot succeed,
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  that you and I cannot make it in this country, then I know some people who look like me,
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  they're actually called Africans, I mean real African Americans, they're the ones who
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  came to America as Africans and they succeed, they thrive, they're doctors, they're lawyers,
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  they're medical nurse practitioners and things of that nation, so how is it that if racism
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  is such an issue that other ethnic groups, particularly within the African community, can
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  thrive and make it, we're dealing with a culture, we're dealing with a world view.
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  It doesn't, again, I'm not saying that we don't have, you know, disparities, but disparities
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  they have, it's not equate to discrimination.
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  Discrimination and disparities are two different things, discrimination is if I'm being biased
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  to prejudice against you because of your ethnicity, because of your color, because of your
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  social or economic makeup, that is discrimination, discrepancies are things that may not
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  always equate to something that is the norm.
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  So 13% of the population of the black community, we have the highest crime rate in our communities.
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  Why is that?
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  You're dealing with culture, you're dealing with a society, you're dealing with a mindset
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  of world view.
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  How is it that 40, 50, 60 years ago, the black family was more intact than we are today?
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  Much more.
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  You can't blame white men, you know, you can't blame them.
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  Now, they had a part to play when it came to reconstruction, they had a part to play
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  when it came to the civil rights era and things that that nature, but now in 2023, you
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  going to tell me, I can't make it, you're going to tell me that the white man is on my neck?
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  No, he's not.
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  So I don't, I don't, I don't hold to that.
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  So even Max Kendi, he's a, he's a, he's a race batter.
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  I mean, it's just simple as that.
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  If there's no other way of putting this stuff, man, you have people making profit off of
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  the ignorance of black people and often guilt that some, I would call them a show walking
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  white people that they have now bowed down and bowed the knee to.
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  So I'm not surprised you have individuals like Jack Dorsey and you have individuals like
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  George Soros clinging to this stuff because you listen, like we said back in the day, and
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  when I'm from game recognizes game, and so when you see the hustle, you know, there's
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  a hustler behind it.
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  Yeah, man, that's right.
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  I want to mention some scripture, I, when you're talking though, I thought of Dr. Ben Carson,
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  there's so many examples we can say, look at television, look at all the famous black
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  actors that have been extremely successful, Denzel Washington, we could go on down the
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  list.
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  That's very day.
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  It is very day, day.
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  I want to make one, make one in ejection.
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  Sure.
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  Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Ben Carson, this man is an intelligent human being, but the black community
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  they choose him as if he's an idiot.
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  Also this is the same Dr. Ben Carson, who had a documentary or had actually a movie based
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  on his life.
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  This is the same Dr. Ben Carson, who had a school in Detroit.
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  And because of black people who do not know their history or because of political, you know,
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  I guess you can say political games that are being played in the black community, which
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  is mainly a particular political class and in particular political party.
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  They took this man's name and stripped and removed his name from one of the Detroit public
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  schools.
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  Why?
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  Not because, not because he stole money from you, you know, from Ukraine, or even money
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  to Ukraine, or or sitting billions of dollars over to Iran, no, no, no, no, no, it was
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  because of that because he doesn't, he doesn't bother to the, to the mob, to the culture.
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  And so black people had to remove from a school in Detroit.
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  Yeah, it is astounding that you mentioned that and that it is true.
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  I've seen black Christian conservatives canceled, and I'm going, boy, that's kind of,
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  you know, it's like, anyway, and when we mentioned black lives matter, we've done shows
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  on this before years ago, Seiko and I have.
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  And we'll probably have to do one again because there's still some confusion with that.
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  I always refer to it as black lives matter, global foundation network because it was a
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  global movement.
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  It wasn't just about what happened in one state in America in Minneapolis, to George
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  Floyd.
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  It was so much more than that.
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  But anyway, that's for another time.
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  I want to share a scripture, Seiko, and get your response to this because when I think
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  about racism, the Bible, the biblical worldview is we are one race, one blood.
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  Galatians 3 starting in verse 26 says for, now in Christ, it says, for you are all sons
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  of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
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  This is how we should look at things, friends.
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  For all of you who are baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
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  There is neither Jew nor Greek.
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  There is neither slave nor free man.
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  There is neither male nor female.
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  For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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  And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
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  It's one of the many scriptures that would go against what they're teaching.
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  Your thoughts?
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  It's simple, brother.
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  In Christ, that's who we are.
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  We're one family.
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  Matter of fact, can we go a little bit further, a little bit deeper?
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  One of the blessings and benefits of being saved and being in Christ's family is that we've
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  been adopted, brother.
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  We've been adopted.
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  God has many multicultural, many multi-ethnic children in his family, brother.
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  And I don't have to adopt to your culture and to your style to accept you.
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  One of my favorite verses, also David, is a Romans chapter 15, verse 7.
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  It says, just as we're to accept one another, just as God through Christ accepted us.
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  And then you look at the proceeding context of that passage, this is Romans chapter 14,
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  where this was preference, issues of conscience.
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  So I can appreciate you, but I don't have to always agree with you.
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  I mean, pretty sure that you got some crazy uncles and crazy family members in your family.
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  You don't always have to be around, but that's your family, right?
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  You got to, you got to, you got to, you got to, you got to, you got to, you got to
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  individual, but you may not always agree with it, but that's your family, that's your
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  blood.
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  Well, how much more for us as believers?
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  We are a one blood, but we have many, many parts, many members in one body, but yet that's
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  what makes the body of Christ so beautiful and so unique in my opinion.
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  So I don't have to, I don't have to, you know, ignore a person's color.
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  Matter of fact, I'll tell my wife brothers and sisters all the time, don't say your color
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  blind.
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  No, no, no, I understand the spirit behind that, but no, we see color, but like Paul says,
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  we're not to recognize each other according to the flesh because we are of one one blood,
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  we are of one FNA, we're of one people, and ultimately we're one family under Christ.
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  And so that's where I stand with that.
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  Amen.
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  Amen.
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  I think it was 19, 20, 21 where all tribes and peoples from the nations and everyone's
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  going to be gathered around the throne when we are, yes, when we are worshiping our
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  king in eternity, it won't matter who we are, what we look like, it'll matter who's
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  we are.
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  We belong to Christ.
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  We are all with him.
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  So we're, this is flying bicycle.
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  I didn't even get to a lot of the articles I said, you know, with you, no, so we will
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  have you back, Lord willing, gosh, so the one, what one should I go with here, oh, my
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  goodness.
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  Okay, let's talk about the attack on free speech.
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  I brought that up earlier.
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  There's a new poll, real clear politics showing that Democrats are literally against free
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  speech.
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  It's a dangerous trend.
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  And it says 50% of Republicans and about 75% of Democrats approve of the government violating
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  the Constitution and targeting, quote, hateful online content.
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  So someone's got to determine, say, go, what is hateful?
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  And it says 47% of Democrats say free speech should be legal only under certain circumstances.
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  So and 75% of Democrats say government has a responsibility to censor hateful social
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  media posts.
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  Okay, in the last couple of minutes that we have, you've got to define what is hateful
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  and how that hurts people.
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  And that's what they're putting out there today.
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  They are the victims on the left, and especially the LGBTQ and others when you say something,
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  uh, words are now, um, hateful.
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  So it doesn't surprise me that almost, well, a majority 75% of the left think, yeah,
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  if they say something that I think is hateful, um, they should be shut down.
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  Your thoughts on that, because that's a very dangerous thing, uh, constitutionally in
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  an America.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, that's the first, that's the violation of the first amendment.
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  I mean, without free speech, are you really free?
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  And then that's the new form of slavery now, because why don't you just put a muzzle on
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  us?
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  Just treat us like dogs, all of us.
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  I even tell my color right now.
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  Just treat anybody that you don't believe should speak true like animal and just muzzle
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  them literally, because that is, that is the picture that you're, that you're painting
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  when you're telling people that they don't have a right to share what is on their mind.
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  We're not talking about making death threats, we're not talking about making bomb threats.
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  We're talking about an individual having the God given right to say, brother, I don't
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  agree with you.
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  But brother, this is sin.
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  Here's what the Bible says.
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  Here's what the word of God says is that the word of God is the final authority.
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  It doesn't matter what your authority says.
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  And so now it goes back again, who you vote for matters, who you put in office matters.
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  Because remember, just three years ago, to talk about the election, being you know what,
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  we can't, that's right, remove what you've taken down, right?
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  So now, three years later, we came and talked about certain things because now it goes back
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  to 2020.
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  You can talk about the, you know, the injectable biological, you couldn't talk about the
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  election, you couldn't talk about a lot of things because you would be shut down, you'll
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  be deep platform, you'll be demonetized.
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  So it's another, it's another form of slavery.
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  What you said is interesting.
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  And I actually were running, we're running out of time, but this is full circle now because
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  we started with pastors and churches, pastors not talking about the whole council of God,
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  not talking about sin, cultural issues, evil, confronting those things.
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  And now we're to the point, if you do that long enough, stay out of culture, churches,
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  Christians, keep your influence out, you do that long enough.
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  And now to the point where they're saying, what you're saying is, is hateful and I'm
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  going to censor you, you can't say sin, repent, you can't tell them they're sinning,
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  you can't, in other words, you can't share certain scriptures.
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  It's going to get to that point.
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  We're going to see that.
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  But Seiko Woods, we're going to have to have you back, it's just went by so fast.
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  And as it always does, but brother, God bless you and your new endeavors.
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  And I appreciate your time and your perspective, as I always do, I'm sure people will be
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  blessed by it.
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  And we'll talk again.
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  Stay safe.
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  God bless you and your family.
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  Thank you, brother.
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  Thank you for having me on.
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  God bless you as well.
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  All right.
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  Thanks, Seiko.
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  All right.
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  Seiko Woods, you can look him up.
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  He's one of those troublemakers for the kingdom on social media.
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  And I love it.
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  I love it.
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  We need truth, proclaimers and defenders.
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  We really do.
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  And friends, if you have issues with your pastor, approach him lovingly and respectfully.
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  And just try to encourage him to boldly preach the truth and lead.
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  I think that's kind of a theme in these last couple of weeks on some of these shows.
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