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Switch Macon: The Uninvited Guests · Echoes of the South

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  Welcome to Echoes of the South. I'm Carrie Genzel.
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  Halloween is a time when we invite the spooky and the supernatural
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  into our celebrations. But what happens when the unexplained isn't
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  part of the decorations? In downtown Macon, Georgia, there's a bar
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  called Switch Macon where owners Jordan Kirksey and Chason Smith.
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  Have turned transforming their space into an art form.
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  Throughout the year, they bring different themes to life.
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  And when we visited, Halloween had taken center stage.
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  But beyond the costumes and decorations, the building has some intriguing
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  stories of its own. Unexplained footsteps, a man's voice heard in
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  an empty restroom. And unusual activity captured on security cameras
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  in the basement. We arrived curious about the building's history and
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  the stories associated with it. But as our investigation unfolded,
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  it raised questions that reached far beyond the walls of switch.
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  Now, as always, we're not here to chase fear or label a location
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  based on a single investigation. We're here to share what we experienced.
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  Ask questions and explore the possibilities. And as always, we invite
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  you to come to your own conclusions. Let's begin.
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  Hey guys, this is really fun. So typically when we investigate for
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  Echoes of the South, it's not quite as thematic.
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  But you guys are full on into spooky season, and I know there's
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  been a lot of excitement in Macon about this space for Halloween.
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  But throughout the year, so tell me a little bit about Switch and
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  what you all do here.
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  So Switch is a theme bar. That's why it has the name Switch,
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  because it switches themes all year round.
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  we have been open almost a year.
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  Our year is coming up on November 19th.
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  We started out with our Christmas bar Blitzen, which is really the
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  bar that we are known and loved for by all of Macon We
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  actually started that bar in a pop-up space two years ago over on
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  2nd Street. And we have done what five themes now?
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  Four themes now? Well, yeah, fifth five themes.
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  So we started out with Blitzen again here in this space and then
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  we moved on to Valentine's. Yep. Cherry Blossom.
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  Cherry Blossom. 90s. And now we're in our favorite holiday, which is Halloween.
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  Well, I I knew that about you and I knew you were really
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  excited and that's why I thought this is such a great time to
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  come in and investigate this space, which this whole block has an
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  incredible amount of history. It's a very very old structures, very
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  old part of the city. And just w thought would be a fun
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  collaboration to come in and and check out the space during this time.
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  Definitely pick the best time to do it, I would say.
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  Right. And you've had some experiences here and you've also heard
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  some stories. So what are the s some of the stories that you've
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  heard from people that have been in this space?
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  owners of the space, she's told me two different things.
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  She told me that she has heard like numerous high heels walking around
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  up and down above her like they were in the bridal suite.
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  Yeah. And she said it was a Tuesday and she thought it was
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  really weird because they don't normally book weddings on a Tuesday,
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  but she goes, These girls were extremely loud, so she texted the landlord
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  about it and was like, Will you please just tell whoever whatever
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  bride or whoever in the suite just like not be as loud and
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  the landlord goes It's not rented today.
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  It's a Tuesday. There's nobody there. And she goes, Well, I clearly
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  hear girls walking around up there and they're like, Don't know what
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  to tell ya because it's it's not rented.
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  There's nobody in the space. Mm-hmm. So that's one of the stories
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  I've heard. The other story takes place in our bathroom upstairs.
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  You know, we only have one bathroom at Switch.
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  That's like can sometimes be our biggest pain when it's packed.
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  but we also theme our bathroom and decorate it and She said that
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  one night and she was playing her old business that everybody had
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  left. She was in here by herself.
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  All of her employees had left. She was getting ready to leave.
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  And she heard a man talking. So she said that he kept talking,
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  he kept talking. So then I guess she calls her husband and she's
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  like, Tell him what happened. Like everyone's gone, that there's this
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  guy in the bathroom, so I'm just calling ya to let you know.
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  I guess I'm ought get this guy out of the bathroom.
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  She opens up the bathroom door, there's no one in there.
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  That's wild. That's so wild.
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  Very very cool.
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  You've picked up some strange anomalies like in your security cameras as well.
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  stuff on the security cameras downstairs. Downstairs is really like
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  our storage and it's for our other business making drinks.
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  So it's really more of our inventory storage for that.
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  And then of course our decor for Switch because one of the number
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  one Switch questions is where do you store it all?
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  That's what everybody wants to know and I always say well downstairs
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  in our basement is where it goes.
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  We have a finished basement. but yeah I've the because that security
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  camera is very sensitive and it goes off a lot.
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  And to be honest with you, a lot of times I won't look
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  at it as much because it does go off so much and we
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  have an alarm. But there have been times that I have picked it
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  up and I've noticed orbs just floating in front of the camera.
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  And that's what'll set it off. And there will be like a ton
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  of them just floating back and forth.
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  And it's always in front of this one camera that gets set off
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  and it's the camera that is directly above the catacomb.
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  Right. Well let's go take a look at those 'cause those are really
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  interesting and it's definitely an area that I'm gonna bring Morrighan
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  down to when they get here.
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  Here is the rod, suite. Here comes the bride.
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  But there's the suite and you'll notice that a portion of our spaces
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  are directly under the suite.
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  That's correct, yeah. Here comes the bride and here comes the shoes.
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  So this would be the area that is directly under that rock.
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  suite which belongs to another business but that too told me the story about it.
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  So all of this brick would be original to the building.
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  yeah, I think so definitely now.
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  So now service I'm here.
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  Right.
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  So yeah, this is this is answer the question where does all the
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  decor for Switch goes? It goes down
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  Everyone's getting getting the the behind the scenes look today.
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  It goes in these catacombs. these catacombs are original to the building.
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  They're carved out here in brick. There are three of them.
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  They're pretty large. Mm most of a lot of our decors in the
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  catacombs. And then of course we have some additional on this wall
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  over here. We stuff everywhere. This is the camera that always goes
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  off. So we have three different cameras down here.
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  Now the one in our main office never goes off.
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  The doorbell one doesn't go off, which is in the hallway.
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  But this one goes off constantly with orbs.
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  Interesting. And to your knowledge or from what you understand or
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  th what what is the lore or the information about what these are? So
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  From what we heard and I don't know how correct this is, 'cause
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  I really haven't researched it like that.
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  From what we heard is this portion of the building was a hospital
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  and these were bays. So I don't know you know, how correct that
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  is, that's just what we've heard and that this could have potentially
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  been like maybe a morgue area or something.
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  Well we'll see what Morrighan picks up in this area because it's definitely
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  it definitely looks original to the structure and so it'd be interesting
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  to find out.
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  But that's why we have everything in Rubbermaids because yeah, it's
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  still it's not nothing terrible, but it does leak a little bit when it rains.
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  Right.
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  and then I do know, I don't know if it's the whole strip,
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  but I do know that the space beside us also has the catacombs.
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  really? Mm-hmm. Interesting. And I think that like were all of these
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  like connected underground at some point? Right. Right. Well
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  They said they were everything making used.
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  I think I feel like there is.
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  There everything was connected underground.
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  Yeah,
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  Well, Morrighan has encountered a soldier at the end of the block
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  in the basement. So it'll be interesting to see if maybe
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  We have some other military down.
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  there's some other military down here. Or if maybe he comes by to
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  say hello, or if somebody else is down here.
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  what I always find interesting about Macon being so connected is Are
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  there spirits that go to multiple locations?
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  Are there you know, we've investigated the Macon City Auditorium,
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  which is right across the street and definitely had activity.
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  I've heard stories about Hotel 45. Yeah, really, yeah.
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  Yeah, from people that had worked there.
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  'Cause again, it's had a lot of lives, right?
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  Like all of these buildings. And then, you know, you just think about
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  this street and and just it's seen so many changes over the years
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  and so much history. So we'll definitely tap into all of that.
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  We're excited. Can't wait to find out.
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  Yeah, exactly. Well, Morrighan and Jon are on their way and I'm excited
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  to see what we discover.
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  it's just full of living energy.
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  you
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  Moving that aside a little bit so that the other can come forward.
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  Alright, so we're just getting started. We're getting set up.
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  Now, when I was when before we had cameras rolling, we had a
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  candle come on by itself and it's an electronic candle.
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  came on by itself and we were told that that had never happened
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  before. So Jon is set up in a a REM pod near where
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  the candle is, and now we're getting a little bit of a proximity
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  alert on that. So Something's happening in that area.
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  So what are your initial feelings coming into the space?
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  So the first thing that I felt as we're driving over as I
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  do, yeah, as we're driving over I just kinda go into the space
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  to see what's like a big picture of what's happening.
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  Because they do big activities here with the living, there's a lot
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  of living energy in it. So I spent a few minutes just kind
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  of clearing that out, just not getting rid of it because it is
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  really vibrant, beautiful energy, but I did contain it just outside
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  the door. I put it in a fish bowl.
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  contain it so that the space could be clear for spirits.
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  So my initial feeling is I definitely feel spirits in the apartments
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  above that are more connected to people than the building.
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  And and there's like four or five of them and so we'll go
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  through them and see what's up. Now that it feels a little bit
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  more neutral, it does feel like spirits are starting to see that we're
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  here in the way that they do, right?
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  so I think it's more of like, okay, we're on, like it's good.
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  Let's start and we'll see who wants to come forward first because
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  it does feel active. Now that start the beep again.
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  Or has it gone on the whole time?
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  So the light's been flashing green while you're talking, but when
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  you pointed at it it beeped. It was like showtime.
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  And that is a proximity light. That's like one of the first ones
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  to come on. And that particular device has five.
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  So whoever is touching it, playing with it, if you could get a
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  little bit closer to it. Make it light up.
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  There's five lights. And Sound.
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  See how much see how much energy you can put into it.
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  That lets us know that you hear us, like you are understanding our
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  words. Can you grab the antenna a little bit more firmly?
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  It's also near the candle that lit up that you were saying.
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  It's right near the candle. So I'll just to be clear, I'll show
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  you. The I know. Whoops, the candle that lit up is right here.
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  Okay. And I was standing about here.
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  I know, sorry, sorry.
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  But that's how it's
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  That's how it's done.
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  It doesn't hurt you, I promise. You just get closer to it.
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  Whenever you're ready, no rush. You might be nervous.
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  So I don't know what it means yet, but when we turned that
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  one on, it felt like everyone in the room went, we're beginning.
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  Even though we know that, we knew that, but I felt the rune
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  shift, like, we're starting. So like everybody got nervous.
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  Is it excitement though? Like that they wanna come and play?
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  Yeah, it definitely was, but it was more like,
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  It's real now.
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  it's real now. So I do feel like since there are so many
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  different layers of awareness in this room, I do think we should start
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  with our introductions. Just a level set.
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  I'm gonna we're gonna introduce ourselves to you.
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  My name is Morrighan.
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  I'm Carrie.
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  And so we are a group of people that likes to communicate with
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  people like you. And that's all we're here for.
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  We're here to meet you. Get your story if you want to share
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  something with us. Help you if you need anything.
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  So after the introductions I looked over and the blue light was lit
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  up on the REM pod.
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  Ooh, what's losing just closer?
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  So, top right up.
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  Well it was in the middle. I think it was blue.
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  it was more towards the middle and it was only on for a
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  short time and then it went off.
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  But it was right after Michael said and Michael and 'cause I looked
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  back this way and I saw it lit up.
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  Yeah.
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  We also have the same device in front of us here between the
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  four of us. If you want to come in and touch it.
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  It's just a heaviness. There's a sometimes when we do this there's
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  a changing of the guard. Mhm. There's a know, we're having fun and
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  we're light, la la la, it's good to see you, blah blah blah,
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  we're doing this and then the mechanics of setting up and everything.
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  And then I know our intention will shift it and everything, but then
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  it's a response. Then they go again there's a now I know what
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  we're doing and it it there's a a wave of energy that goes
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  through my head. It feels heavy and I want to like Fe I
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  feel like I'm on a channel. I'm not going to, but there's a
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  heaviness in there. Some something's in the room with us. Someone
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  shifted with our intention behind it.
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  And they're just watching 'cause they're not sure it's happening.
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  There is a protective protective energy about it.
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  That's not always good or bad. It can go either way.
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  Sometimes protective means don't touch my
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  Get off my lawn.
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  Like don't mess with my a little bit of that.
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  What does it feel like this?
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  It's what I'm I'm I'm getting more information, sorry.
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  I actually didn't hear you at all.
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  I went away.
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  Huh.
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  and here's the thing too, psychologically, I'm aware of like what's
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  all around us, all the all the big, you know, decorations.
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  And I'm aware of this tree. But something is standing, like something
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  is right right here looking down. At us.
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  It feels a little bit more like that, not so great protection.
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  It feels a little bit I need to find words.
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  Let me let me get some words.
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  We have permission to be here as long as we don't mess with
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  anything. It's watching us. But historically, just experience wise,
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  like I know that means that probably some of the spirits are being
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  held captive here. And so we'll break through that, it's okay.
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  And now my chest hurts because it's challenging me.
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  Challenging me, yeah.
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  If someone has taken on the responsibility and the role of protecting
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  people, they become very possessive of the people that they protect.
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  And that required. Is that it or is it more of don't touch
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  my food? For lack of a better term.
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  Yeah. Is it human?
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  try and figure that out. I have I have to do it delicately so that
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I have to do it slowly so it doesn't attack or do anything.
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  Because here's how I know that it's not a spirit of light is
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  it just shut everything down. Are you tuned?
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  I like did you did you feel it?
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  I felt it go 'Cause it was like no.
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  over here going. Yes.
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  Interesting.
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  So sometimes there will be a more of a a dominant spirit.
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  And that's that can either be human or non-human.
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  We don't know yet. Sometimes it can be, sometimes it can be a
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  fractured human soul where which looks not human.
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  They have been known to be able to trap the souls that are
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  in space and feed on them. And when people like us come in,
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  they don't want you messing with that because you're messing with
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  their food. And so they'll shut it down.
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  So this is something that we've had before.
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  It's not too terribly shocking. I I am surprised that it's in this
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  space which is like fun and that makes sense.
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  It's because of the space. It's
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  Like a cover.
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  it it's feeding on it's feeding on the living as well.
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  Just the amplified energy, not harming humans, just the it it fills up with
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  The excitement. Yeah. The fun. The laughter.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. So when I cleared the living energy out and made space for
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  all that was not alive, then it ex it got exposed because
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  It was underneath all of that.
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  Took the layer of it away and and like pulled the blankets back
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  and there it is, like that. Is that right?
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  So there is something here. So more than likely what I need to
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  do then is And then It actually lives upstairs.
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  it's connected to a tenant upstairs. And it is not human.
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  So wherever we are in the building, it's right up there upstairs.
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  And it's in the very back corner of whatever apartment is right there.
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  It's right there. And it feels a lot like The Grand Same energy.
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  Very bat like, like wispy. That's why it was throwing me off with
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  this tree because it's black and wispy.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's that same being. Not the
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  Same. It's not the same. Same type of being.
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  so it's not human. It's it's a it's a parasite kind of it eats.
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  Thanks
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  but it it's on a woman, it's connected to the woman upstairs.
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  So so that's where it is. That's who it's attached to.
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  Well, that is kind of a different scenario.
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  So if we're not dealing with just a protective, matronly s human spirit,
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  we're dealing with something that's non human.
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  Or a fractured human spirit or non human for sure.
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  'cause it was shape shifting. Moves in and out.
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  It's like smoke and
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  Now does it do that to deceive, to if it's attached to s
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  to a human being, does it present itself as human or so it's
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  not as threatening? Or is it do does it do it more for
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  the dead that it shape shifts to gain trust or
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  It has trapped the human souls. And whether they they they probably
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  feel some sort of safety with with it because it does protect them.
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  Right. But it's lying to them about what it's protecting them from.
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  It's making them afraid of us, like humans.
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  And so there's this it's a gaslighting thing, it's a lying thing.
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  And so and I so I feel like it's really unhappy with me.
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  And when you saw the blue light, I almost said I paused because
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  Because something is stabbing my shoulder. And then now I feel it
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  in my head. And it's like really, really, really telling me to shut
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  up. Which is very normal. Because I'm on to that tells me it's
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  afraid. Right. So all of that's happening right now.
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  That's why I pause, because I'm like, really?
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  We're gonna go there again? Like we're here. Okay,
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  Here we are.
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  I guess we're gonna be in the in that space again.
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  So ultimately what needs to happen is it needs to be removed because
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  it's not serving any purpose whatsoever to the living or the dead
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  or the space or us.
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  Is it something that's even supposed to be on this plane?
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  It's in the wrong neighborhood.
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  It is not supposed to be on this plane.
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  Wrong neighborhood, you don't belong here, and you're pissed because
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  we figured it out and that's it.
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  In record time, I might add.
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  Thank you. You've been a wonderful crowd.
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  Yeah, because see this is the thing too, is it's not very strong.
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  Yeah. It's it's sort of a baby one.
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  you
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  don't mean that in a disrespectful
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  way. I'm not really worried about it.
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  It's just messing with our deal. I don't know where it went now
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  'cause it it's gone.
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  It's like
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  He was like, shit.
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  I'm out.
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  So I I want to be careful about this.
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  So I wanna ask Michael and Chamuel to please find in the building
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  where that being is and
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  Thanks.
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  I do want to understand, so if there's anything else I need to
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  know about it.
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  You mentioned a lday who was attached to it.
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  see her she's I don't think she she's not aware but she's feeling
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  the effects of it so there's waves of depression and disorientation.
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  it's very vampiric in that way so it will leech it will it will drain.
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  So it's not like a conscious agreement where it's doing for her.
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  No. Okay. actually can see her, it would be so interesting to see
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  who the tenants are. She is probably about
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  Thanks.
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  thirty-four, thirty-five. Strawberry blonde hair. Wavy She has like
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  a bohemian energy about her, like, you know.
• 27:42
  Yeah, like that free energy which is
• 27:47
  Again that.
• 27:48
  There's this light just lit up the little blue light again.
• 27:50
  Temperature. Interesting.
• 27:51
  And that one's turned off too. It's turned off.
• 27:57
  I've never noticed that with these when we have the temperature off
• 28:01
  that that light starts lighting up. 'Cause we often will turn especially
• 28:06
  'cause it's the south, it's really hot right now and right the air
• 28:10
  conditioning's on, we're in a commercial building, so I've I haven't
• 28:15
  encountered that where I've noticed it. But now it's happened on both devices.
• 28:20
  So that's interesting that her energy is high and bubbly and also
• 28:25
  flowing, which is the atmosphere of this party room.
• 28:28
  It's the same...
• 28:30
  Mm.
• 28:31
  Delicious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Free.
• 28:37
  Yeah.
• 28:39
  a lot of sugar. Yeah, I've we we don't we're gonna go ahead
• 28:49
  and just like let it be moved out because it it it's harming
• 28:59
  her. It's feeding on the living. It's capturing the dead.
• 29:06
  Alright. So I would like to ask Archangel Michael to move through
• 29:15
  the building, please, and open the tunnel of light that would take
• 29:25
  this being to the astral plane that it belongs to.
• 29:32
  Because it does not have permission to be in this building.
• 29:41
  No one has given you permission to be in this building.
• 29:49
  And this is our plane of existence.
• 29:55
  So it is our free will to remove you and let you go
• 30:05
  to where you belong, freeing let go, let go.
• 30:12
  Let go of the spirits that you're holding on to.
• 30:19
  They do not belong to you. I have not heard anyone give you
• 30:29
  permission in this moment for you to keep hanging on to them.
• 30:39
  They know now that you are not their protector.
• 30:45
  Let go. Let go. Like, be gone, be gone.
• 30:52
  So take that. Go on. Any residual energy that belongs to that being
• 31:02
  take that up into the tunnel as well.
• 31:09
  residual energy, any it's very web like.
• 31:14
  I was gonna feel and again I'm very aware that I see the
• 31:24
  webs, like psychologically I know how that works.
• 31:30
  Yes. Like yeah capturing and holding and
• 31:36
  Right, well let's head downstairs and see who we encounter down there.
• 31:40
  It definitely has a different feel and different vibe.
• 31:44
  And I think I might let whatever's in here acclimate a little bit
• 31:47
  more so it will change up the energy.
• 31:49
  Yeah, I do. I feel like they're kind of like like it's like
• 32:08
  they're coming out from hiding. Like what just happened?
• 32:21
  Ready? Yeah. Right.
• 32:26
  Okay. Very different. It has that smell because there's moisture.
• 32:47
  That's not it. That's a question. Yeah.
• 33:02
  Has anybody ever killed that?
• 33:13
  Not that I'm aware of.
• 33:15
  Thanks.
• 33:17
  Like something feels I'm picking up an argument between two men.
• 33:23
  A fight. And it was accidental but violent.
• 33:28
  And like I feel like somebody died down here.
• 33:34
  you
• 33:37
  like they pushed and then they fell and hit their head and they
• 33:40
  died, like it was accidental but but they were in a tussle.
• 33:44
  Yeah.
• 33:46
  feels like I feel jealousy, like I feel very
• 33:52
  Paranoid. I feel paranoid like the person that did it is paranoid
• 33:58
  about the other person. So there's like a jealousy thing.
• 34:03
  And they got into a fight. And I feel the head blow.
• 34:09
  Like they hit, hit, hit. Boom boom.
• 34:13
  And then the guy like fled out and died.
• 34:18
  you So, earlier, Carrie and I talked about how this, where I want
• 34:21
  to put some, this, a way to put up for me, high energy.
• 34:24
  The
• 34:34
  No, no.
• 34:35
  other two next to it didn't do anything, but the one specifically
• 34:36
  right where you're standing telling
• 34:37
  for me this morning.
• 34:41
  me the story is where I felt stuff. now I'm
• 34:44
  getting days on
• 34:47
  that's weird.
• 34:49
  He hit that. He hit that. 'Cause I'm like there's no blocks in
• 34:53
  here. How did that happen? I moved on.
• 34:56
  I thought that was another hallway. No.
• 34:59
  But that's a cutout and then that's a cutout and there's another
• 35:04
  And they've been sealed. If you look up there's cement at the top.
• 35:08
  It's almost like was a furnace or something.
• 35:10
  I don't know. But
• 35:11
  It sealed all three of them
• 35:17
  Yeah. Yeah, it's right here. It's right there. That
• 35:27
  you
• 35:28
  right there.
• 35:29
  Is is the individual still here or is it just the imprint of
• 35:35
  the event itself?
• 35:37
  you
• 35:38
  I don't know. So I wanna speak to the gentleman that I feel
• 35:47
  like I I walked into your experience.
• 35:51
  Can you hear me? You can either touch this or you can touch
• 36:00
  that. I just wanna know if I can talk with you.
• 36:08
  And the thing about the guy is he doesn't even know what's going
• 36:17
  on. He like the other guy's paranoid and he's misreading it and he
• 36:26
  thinks that he's he flirted with his girlfriend or something and the
• 36:34
  other guy's like just totally surprised.
• 36:39
  Oblivious 'cause it didn't happen.
• 36:42
  No idea what he's talking about. And so he he's caught off guard
• 36:47
  by it. But the other guy is
• 36:50
  In a rage.
• 36:51
  The word paranoid has come up so many times I feel like it's
• 36:56
  either drug-induced paranoia or spiritual paranoia. maybe a twinge
• 37:00
  of schizophrenia. Something doesn't feel like reality doesn't feel
• 37:04
  true. Is there anyone in this room right here that would like to
• 37:10
  speak with us?
• 37:12
  you
• 37:13
  You can touch this, that way I can have yes and no answers.
• 37:18
  Or you can just let me know you're here by touching that antenna.
• 37:24
  be a residual, it might just be a memory, but feel like the
• 37:30
  guy that did it is still down here.
• 37:34
  'Cause I I feel like he's the one that they're picking up on
• 37:40
  the cameras 'cause he paces and he walks.
• 37:44
  Peace.
• 37:46
  And I see him like no no no
• 37:49
  Like regret of what he did 'cause he didn't mean to.
• 37:54
  He it's like he right.
• 37:57
  But he like walks around, he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 38:04
  no. So he's like in his His he's in his pathology.
• 38:10
  He's in his Am I speaking to the gentleman that pushed his friend
• 38:18
  down? One for yes, two for no.
• 38:22
  Are you the
• 38:24
  Gentlemen. Yes.
• 38:26
  Did you accidentally kill your friend?
• 38:31
  you
• 38:34
  That was the weirdest noise.
• 38:36
  Are you sorry?
• 38:41
  Do you need help? In other words, you don't belong in this room
• 38:48
  anymore. Do you want help leaving? He's punishing himself. Do
• 38:54
  No.
• 38:57
  you feel like you deserve punishment?
• 39:03
  Yes.
• 39:05
  Do you believe in atonement?
• 39:08
  you
• 39:10
  Do you believe in asking for forgiveness?
• 39:12
  you
• 39:14
  Yes, big yes.
• 39:16
  Yes, but scary as Can you see your friend?
• 39:21
  Is he here with you?
• 39:25
  Yes.
• 39:26
  Can you ask him for forgiveness? No.
• 39:30
  If you were to ask him for forgiveness, do you think he would forgive you?
• 39:41
  He's gone.
• 39:42
  He is in a big punishment spiral.
• 39:45
  That's who he just paces. No no no no
• 39:50
  Is the other man still here?
• 39:54
  I don't think he is. I think he is projecting that he's here.
• 39:58
  Right. 'Cause I was wondering is like could we connect with him and
• 40:03
  maybe find forgiveness through him?
• 40:06
  So I have a name and I I believe it's for the victim.
• 40:11
  I believe his name is Daniel. I'd like to ask, can you
• 40:16
  you
• 40:17
  can you give me your name? Your friend's name is Daniel.
• 40:21
  Can you come back to this device and talk with me again?
• 40:26
  you
• 40:27
  I promise you I have a reason.
• 40:33
  We're we're we're getting your story and I want to help you find
• 40:44
  peace. I wanna help you understand. Do you wanna understand?
• 40:53
  Are you willing to let yourself understand?
• 40:59
  Take a deep breath. Let it out.
• 41:05
  Get a little bit of courage and come back.
• 41:13
  Come on, you can do it. I'm wondering if your name is Ted.
• 41:24
  If they call you Teddy. Back to me please.
• 41:32
  Everyone deserves to be forgiven. Everyone deserves it.
• 41:39
  Thank you. Did I get your name correctly?
• 41:46
  Do they call you Teddy? One for yes, two for no.
• 41:55
  They call you Teddy. No. Is your name Ted?
• 42:03
  So you may not like the nickname.
• 42:09
  Is your name Ted?
• 42:13
  Is your friend's name Daniel?
• 42:22
  Yes.
• 42:23
  you
• 42:24
  Do you see Daniel here right now?
• 42:27
  Can you say hi to him? Can you see him?
• 42:31
  Is he standing here?
• 42:33
  out.
• 42:34
  No. What is that noise?
• 42:36
  Very weird. Very strange. If I were to bring Daniel into the room
• 42:41
  and and you guys have a conversation, would you be willing to do that?
• 42:47
  Yes.
• 42:48
  So I would like to ask Daniel to come into the room.
• 42:52
  The Daniel that died in this room.
• 42:55
  There's a did a light just come on the REM pod?
• 42:57
  Think so. I was watching it. Hi Daniel.
• 43:01
  I have Ted here and he wants to ask if you forgive him.
• 43:09
  Do you forgive him? Yes. Okay. Ted, do you accept that? Do
• 43:17
  you
• 43:18
  you is that okay with you? You
• 43:21
  No.
• 43:24
  I need to know what you need to be forgiven.
• 43:30
  Daniel, will you talk with him? No.
• 43:35
  Do you have something spiritually going on that's keeping you from
• 43:42
  forgiving yourself? Is something trapping you in that?
• 43:48
  Yes. It's gone.
• 43:54
  I'm getting somewhere. First of all, never had a two-way conversation.
• 43:58
  That was cool. I'm super stoked about that.
• 44:01
  Because they would trade off, I could feel the trade.
• 44:05
  It sounded different.
• 44:10
  so Ted has an attachment. I don't think it's the same attachment.
• 44:14
  I don't think it's the same
• 44:16
  I was gonna ask that.
• 44:17
  right. But also in his psychosis, in his like, I deserve to be
• 44:25
  punished, I deserve this, so he's letting it happen.
• 44:31
  sort of gilt and self-inflected punishment.
• 44:40
  He believes in atonement, but he doesn't believe it's possible for
• 44:47
  him. He's he's like I'm so close to getting it.
• 44:55
  So it feels like he realized that the guy was innocent.
• 44:59
  He didn't actually do it.
• 45:01
  Well, Daniel's crossover. Yeah. So when they cross over, they don't
• 45:05
  have the same animosity or anger. So his soul's clear.
• 45:10
  Yeah. But Ted is still on this plane and so he's decaying in
• 45:16
  his 'cause this feels like the seventies. Mm.
• 45:20
  Thanks.
• 45:21
  It has a very
• 45:22
  I knew you were gonna say that.
• 45:24
  I was just gonna say, that's weird.
• 45:26
  god, this is what's happening now that we're doing so many of these.
• 45:30
  I in my mind didn't say it.
• 45:32
  I was like, what timeline? And then I was like seventies and then
• 45:37
  you said it.
• 45:38
  Noooo
• 45:40
  'Cause I do I see I see Ted having like the kind of
• 45:44
  the surfer blonde wavy hair, kind of, you know, hippie-ish.
• 45:48
  Yeah.
• 45:52
  What was this building in the seventies?
• 45:54
  I feel like I wanna know that.
• 45:57
  Like in that seventies era.
• 45:59
  that I had something for the seventies specifically.
• 46:03
  Cover number 70s. Also I realize we just talked about the woman upstairs,
• 46:07
  even though she's here now, she has a very hippie-ish
• 46:11
  Bohemian.
• 46:12
  energy. What was this building in the 70s?
• 46:16
  I'm so interested now. Alright, can I talk with you guys?
• 46:23
  Hello. Is this Ted? One for yes, two for no.
• 46:29
  Is this Ted? I feel like you're so close.
• 46:34
  You're so close to being ready. Okay,
• 46:39
  is this Daniel? Are you Daniel? I just wanna get the audience correct.
• 46:45
  you
• 46:46
  Am I talking to Daniel? I'm talking to the spirit that's holding Ted
• 46:54
  captive, aren't I?
• 46:57
  you
• 47:01
  You might as well answer, I already know.
• 47:04
  Yes.
• 47:05
  You don't have any power here. This isn't your realm.
• 47:08
  You don't you don't get to do this.
• 47:11
  you
• 47:13
  You don't get to do this. Yes.
• 47:15
  No, you do not. You need to go back to where you belong.
• 47:19
  I think you came in with the other one.
• 47:21
  You guys are partners.
• 47:23
  Yes.
• 47:24
  You deal with the downstairs. He deals with the upstairs.
• 47:29
  Well you get to go where he went.
• 47:33
  Let go of Ted. Let him go.
• 47:36
  Okay, Ted, can I speak with you please?
• 47:40
  Let me know if this is you.
• 47:44
  One for yes, two for no.
• 47:47
  This is...
• 47:50
  No.
• 47:52
  That was a creepy sound. I don't even care why you're here.
• 47:58
  It's time to go. So Michael, take this being out.
• 48:04
  Take take him now.
• 48:07
  Yes. Take him now. Take him now.
• 48:09
  Archangel Michael, bring down your tunnel of light.
• 48:12
  only 'cause he's running. Find him through the building, collect any
• 48:17
  and all beings that look like him that have that same signature.
• 48:21
  If there's more than one left, them all, take them all, take them
• 48:26
  all now. They do not belong here.
• 48:29
  They do not get to be parasites on human souls.
• 48:33
  That's where the paranoia came from. It is very much like the being
• 48:38
  we just got rid of, but it's that same what we saw at The Grand.
• 48:44
  Right. And and the same thing that that Randell or Randy had said
• 48:54
  that it manipulated his thoughts and his actions.
• 49:00
  It influenced him. Exactly. Right.
• 49:04
  So, one more time, may I speak with Ted?
• 49:10
  One more time please, when you're ready.
• 49:15
  That does feel clear now.
• 49:19
  started building the sphere and just pushed it.
• 49:28
  Ted, I want you to come forward please.
• 49:38
  Receive the healing that Jon is doing.
• 49:48
  Come into the sphere, be safe. You've fought long enough, honey.
• 50:02
  Time to be at peace. Forward. Daniel is still here.
• 50:16
  Daniel, are you here? Can you talk with me?
• 50:28
  I just wanna get a status update.
• 50:37
  Daniel, can you hear me? be hearing about And you think Ted might
• 50:54
  be gone too?
• 50:59
  someone's back.
• 51:00
  Is this Ted?
• 51:09
  Is it Ted? No.
• 51:14
  Is this Daniel? Yes. Daniel, is Ted still here?
• 51:24
  Is he still in the room?
• 51:31
  Yes.
• 51:33
  Is that being that was harming him gone now?
• 51:38
  Is he free from that?
• 51:42
  No.
• 51:43
  Okay, so there's more ties in there.
• 51:45
  Daniel won't let him or sorry, Ted won't let him go, will it? Will he?
• 51:50
  you
• 51:51
  Feels like he deserves it.
• 51:56
  Yes.
• 51:57
  There's nothing we can do about that.
• 51:59
  Yeah. self-inflicted. Yeah.
• 52:00
  .
• 52:03
  Well Daniel, if you will just say one more time for Ted, if
• 52:10
  you will give him permission to yeah, be forgiven.
• 52:15
  Thank you so much for your time.
• 52:19
  I appreciate you. And I'm so sorry for what happened to you.
• 52:26
  And I'm so grateful that you're at peace.
• 52:30
  Is there anything we can do for you?
• 52:35
  Yes. That was a yes to all that.
• 52:39
  Is there anything we can do for you?
• 52:44
  No. Well thank you so much. Thank you so much.
• 52:50
  Is there anything else? like you're trying to warn us about something.
• 52:57
  Yes.
• 52:59
  Are there more beings in this building?
• 53:02
  He left.
• 53:04
  There was a warning in there and it just heads up. Yeah.
• 53:07
  Right. Which
• 53:09
  Which we will anyway, but he's lovely.
• 53:11
  I feel like we're dealing with definitely more than two now.
• 53:15
  Yeah.
• 53:17
  I feel like downtown is sort of a feeding station, so we might
• 53:21
  just be running into them now.
• 53:23
  So it's also just the connection on this block and all these different
• 53:27
  buildings. It may not be tied to this particular footprint.
• 53:30
  It could be the entire block. Or downtown
• 53:33
  I think hold down to
• 53:35
  where it's just a feeding frenzy because nobody is identifying them,
• 53:41
  nobody's calling them out, nobody's getting rid of them.
• 53:46
  Oddly enough, I just I saw it's part of the homeless house the houseless situation.
• 53:52
  really?
• 53:53
  That's part of the mental did you see that too?
• 53:55
  I did because before you said that I thought of the incident that
• 53:58
  you know what
• 53:59
  We had to go out the store on the
• 54:02
  I'm talking about.
• 54:03
  So it's the mental health, it's the it's the repression, it's controlling
• 54:10
  It's just it's just a buffet.
• 54:12
  Right. Well, I mean, that's a big that's a bigger issue the whole
• 54:20
  downtown. No, I know.
• 54:23
  No totally, but it's all connected. There's individual pockets of
• 54:26
  circumstance and things that are happening, but I see it's the collective
• 54:31
  flying around downtown. Yeah, like the breaks and the psyche breaks and reality.
• 54:36
  the allowing like a fissure in the things
• 54:42
  Come in and feed and hang out.
• 54:44
  and populate
• 54:48
  It's just it's just what happens.
• 54:50
  So we're gonna keep bumping into them.
• 54:53
  Yeah. Well and now that I know what it is, I can I
• 54:56
  can clear from a distance. We can start throwing them away.
• 55:00
  I can make sure if you find an area that
• 55:03
  area that animals tend to come to to to
• 55:09
  feed.
• 55:10
  Well but that's what it is essentially, right? Energetically, yeah.
• 55:15
  So I'm I'm sure something similar.
• 55:20
  Well, there's a lot of energy and a lot of history and again
• 55:25
  a lot of layers and Macon is not a city that is investigated
• 55:30
  a lot and even if people are investigating, are they doing what we're
• 55:35
  doing, right? Or are they just fluffing up the energy, right?
• 55:39
  There's the stories, the lore that get continuously told over and
• 55:44
  over and over again. So that stays in the loop.
• 55:48
  You know, the energetically it's It's a cycle.
• 55:51
  It's a cycle. Yeah, yeah. And so if these negative beings have found
• 55:56
  a way in and they found their source of energy, they're gonna probably
• 56:01
  attract other ones, right? To be like, Hey, it's a buffet, let's go.
• 56:07
  Undetected for the most part because people aren't walking around
• 56:36
  like us going, hey, there's bats everywhere.
• 56:57
  Alright, so we're back upstairs and we're gonna use the ghost box.
• 57:19
  I thought I were devil. Devil or Dana, I'm not sure.
• 57:39
  Daniel. Can you say that again? Let us know who's here.
• 58:00
  Alright, let's all focus. Let's all focus.
• 58:06
  So everybody can in the room, everyone focus.
• 58:13
  Focus your energy on this device. This is the speaker for this device
• 58:24
  that Jon's holding. Yeah. Can I ask for someone to be the speaker
• 58:36
  of the group? Do you want it I want to do
• 58:46
  Someone, choose someone. Choose someone.
• 58:50
  When you decided, step forward and let us know your name.
• 59:10
  your name. But it feels a lot better having that.
• 59:28
  I heard that so clearly.
• 59:38
  It sure does.
• 59:40
  Sure it does. Guys gonna throw a big party after we're gone?
• 59:49
  Yeah.
• 59:57
  that we can do for you while we're here.
• 1:00:14
  Do you need anything?
• 1:00:22
  something but I didn't get it. It was quiet.
• 1:00:27
  Need anything. Can you tell me how many are in this how many
• 1:00:49
  of you are in this room right now? Six. Six.
• 1:01:06
  Hello, nice. Do you all six live here in the building?
• 1:01:15
  Heard that. Whatever. was a help.
• 1:01:31
  There is disturbance right now, like there is like So it feels like
• 1:01:37
  some of the baddies are in the room again, is that right?
• 1:01:43
  All of them. So just so that you know that what the grounding
• 1:02:12
  rod all the way through the building.
• 1:02:28
  Past the basement.
• 1:02:35
  There you go, come on through.
• 1:02:53
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Who's bothering you? It's not leaving you alone.
• 1:03:08
  Tell me and maybe we can help.
• 1:03:19
  Who are you?
• 1:03:27
  Best way to help is to go home crossover.
• 1:03:45
  Wait, wait. I thought I heard I heard wait wait.
• 1:04:03
  Not be attacked by these beings anymore is to go into the light.
• 1:04:12
  Best way I can say it. So if you're ready, we're gonna open
• 1:04:22
  the door and you can stay here you're just gonna keep getting fed
• 1:04:32
  on. If you six are ready, I can do that, but you have
• 1:04:42
  to it's your decision. You have to decide.
• 1:04:48
  Is there anyone that would like to speak to us?
• 1:05:30
  Yes. Yeah. See you but
• 1:05:51
  To wrap it up it feels like there's a lot of spirits kind
• 1:05:55
  of coming and going. We've kind of disrupted the order of things.
• 1:06:00
  Now they're all trying to make sense of it.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah, I think because we got rid of the one big guy that
• 1:06:08
  felt more like the manager of the place, it feels like the human
• 1:06:13
  spirits are taking some time to recalibrate because now they have
• 1:06:17
  freedom. And so they're running amok and celebrating and there's a
• 1:06:22
  lot of like probably joy. There's a lot of joy and happiness there.
• 1:06:26
  so it's it's disrupted and rippled the order of things and then also
• 1:06:31
  too finding The sort of lower level attachments that are individually
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  attached. they're probably up in the ante a little bit just to like
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  'cause they're afraid because we did what we did and now they saw
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  what we did and they're in fear.
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  So there's just a lot of chaos.
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  Yeah. I definitely feel drawn to check in in a couple of days
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  and just gently kind of clear those beings out and do what I
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  can on that level. it's so funny 'cause I'm just realizing all the
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  bats on the wall 'cause that's what it looks like to me.
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  I just recognize that. That's what they look like to me.
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  They're just kind of bat like fluttering around downtown. Well
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  That's what I saw in terms of what we encountered at The Grand
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  Yeah. I I saw
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  Like
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  Yeah, the wi the wing, like there was no hand, there was like
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  whatever and it just kinda turned and like went into the darkness
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  because it did not want to deal with you at all.
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  it's very cloak like they'll cloak like they'll cloak themselves.
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  So it's not unheard of, it's stuff it we've dealt with this before.
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  It's pretty common because they live on that on that level of awareness,
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  that level of existence. And it is their job to be vampiric.
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  So they that is their job to siphon energy.
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  And they'll come into places like this or big conglomerate you know,
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  having a lot of people like downtown.
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  Yeah. 'Cause it's easy picking. It's a constant buffet.
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  So it's really normal. It's just now we see it and now we
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  can do something about it.
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  Absolutely. Now in terms of this space in particular, will you leave
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  a door open or will you just check in in the next couple
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  of days and kinda get a sense of how everybody's doing?
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  I think I will not leave the door open like I usually do
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  'cause that did f I do feel like they left.
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  Okay. The ones that wanted to leave.
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  I will check in in a couple of days just to make sure
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  everything is okay 'cause you know, always wanna make sure we're leaving
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  it in a better form than when found it. Yeah.
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  Now there's like a natural order, a natural discovery of this is who
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  I am, this is where I can go happening.
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  It'll settle over the days and so that's I'll check in every other
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  day just to see how it's going because it'll it'll need to settle.
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  Yeah. Sure. We removed a big big part of the energetic blockage and
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  now it'll it'll just need to settle and then we'll see who needs
• 1:09:11
  anything beyond that. Yeah.
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  This was really interesting. Again, the different layers from up here,
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  you know, the two men downstairs. Well the one, but we called in
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  Daniel. Yeah. it breaks my heart that he won't like find the forgiveness
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  in himself to let go and go home, but there's some kind of
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  an attachment there as well.
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  I'll check on him specifically just to see if I can get that
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  attachment off of him. So if you can get the attachment off, then
• 1:09:46
  their mental state can recalibrate. He may not be able to see peace
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  because of that attachment. So if I can get that off of him,
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  it might actually help him relax a little bit.
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  It felt and then certainly in the description of you both mentioning
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  that he paces down there, that there's regret, mm-hmm right?
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  It's not that there's that regret that he won't let himself.
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  He won't forgive let that forgiveness he can't get over that threshold
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  of like, It happened and I've gotta let it go and move on.
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  Probably the attachment, keeping him locked in the trauma.
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  'Cause it it it feeds feeds from that.
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  So again if I can remove that, that might actually open up his
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  psyche, his his lens of perception.
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  will open and he'll see a little bit more.
• 1:10:42
  It's so wild like getting into a little bit of mental health, right?
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  And how they will look for that.
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  And at times in my life that I felt down that inner dialogue,
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  right, I call it the shitty committee, right?
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  And maybe it's that's exactly what it is, of feeding that like, yeah,
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  you are a piece of shit. Yeah, you don't deserve that.
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  Yeah, you're not good enough. No, you you know, all of that, like
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  that it could have been something around me feeding into that because
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  it wants me to stay there. Whereas when you, you know, get help
• 1:11:17
  or go in, you know, or you're in recovery or whatever your path
• 1:11:21
  is, you start to learn those tools to say, hey, you're lying to
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  me. So shut up. I don't need this.
• 1:11:28
  None of that's true. That's what
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  They're hoping you don't
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  and that blocks them. But it's just really interesting to kind of
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  tap into that. conversation a little bit today of what's happening
• 1:11:40
  of the the re the repression of and just maybe people that are
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  on the street or people, you know, that may be struggling with mental
• 1:11:50
  health or addiction that you know, they're they're vulnerable.
• 1:11:54
  Mm-hmm. If you break that cycle, break that cycle of feeling like
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  you're not worthy, that you're not valuable, and giving that reprieve
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  reprieve, then it's like having a breath of fresh air that is allowed
• 1:12:08
  to come in to help uplift and maybe that'll help.
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  Exactly.
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  But it's that, you know, like attracts light.
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  So when you're in the light and living in the light, then there's
• 1:12:21
  those beings that wanna be around you.
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  Right? Right. But when you find yourself and we all do, because life
• 1:12:28
  ebbs and flows. When we feel down or depressed or mad or whatever
• 1:12:32
  the case may be, right? What we would label negative, there's gonna
• 1:12:36
  be those those those vampiric type of energies that are like, hey.
• 1:12:41
  Nom nom nom nom.
• 1:12:42
  You're feeling crappy. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah.
• 1:12:44
  So it is we've talked about this before.
• 1:12:47
  It's so important to keep yourself spiritually fit, right?
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  Mentally fit. Check in with yourself and question where you're having
• 1:12:55
  thoughts where you're like, that's weird, I don't normally think that.
• 1:12:59
  Right. Right? There may be a re there may be something other than
• 1:13:05
  I'm having a bad day.
• 1:13:07
  Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah. Yeah. Well cool. I know I've been driving and going over an
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  overpass and would hear a voice say, You know, you could just drive
• 1:13:17
  over the side. And I'm like, nice try.
• 1:13:20
  Right. 'Cause they're always just picking at your self esteem, they're
• 1:13:24
  always picking at your inner value. They're just finding those weak
• 1:13:28
  links. And so that's whether you're living or dead.
• 1:13:31
  They do the same it's the same tactic.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah. Because it does remind me of the bats.
• 1:13:37
  It reminds me of like I always think that I envision it sort
• 1:13:41
  of like Ghost Remember when the little the bad thing they'd start
• 1:13:45
  as shadows and they'd start moving and they come up.
• 1:13:49
  That's exactly what it always f felt like to me.
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  Like they depicted that so bang on for me of that like starts
• 1:13:56
  like moving and it swarms. Yeah it feels like
• 1:14:00
  Yeah, yeah for sure.
• 1:14:04
  Well, we're gonna counteract that because we are beings of light.
• 1:14:07
  So we're getting the spotlight out. We're gonna shine it all downtown.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  One of the things we always hope to do during an investigation is
• 1:14:18
  uncover the history that might help us better understand the experiences
• 1:14:22
  we encounter. And in this case, there are still some unanswered questions.
• 1:14:27
  We know that the 70s were a time of significant change for downtown
• 1:14:32
  Macon. With the opening of the new mall, many retailers began moving
• 1:14:37
  away from downtown. Leaving businesses and buildings in a period of
• 1:14:41
  transition. But what was happening in the space that is now switched
• 1:14:46
  during those years? Was there an operating business when the events
• 1:14:51
  Morrighan described involving Ted and Daniel may have taken place?
• 1:14:55
  So far, we haven't been able to establish that.
• 1:14:58
  And without that piece of the historical record, their story remains
• 1:15:03
  a mystery. For Morrighan, however, the investigation doesn't end here.
• 1:15:07
  She intends to continue working with Ted.
• 1:15:09
  Helping him release the attachment that's keeping him bound to the
• 1:15:14
  guilt of what happened, and hopefully helping him find forgiveness
• 1:15:18
  within himself. But perhaps the most unexpected development of the
• 1:15:22
  investigation was something that reached well beyond the walls of
• 1:15:26
  switch. Morrighan recognized the same type of parasitic entities we'd
• 1:15:30
  encountered during our investigation at the Grand Opera House.
• 1:15:33
  And as the investigation unfolded, she began sensing their presence
• 1:15:37
  throughout downtown Macon. That realization has given us a new mission:
• 1:15:42
  to continue investigating these encounters and wherever possible,
• 1:15:45
  help clear these entities from the places they occupy.
• 1:15:49
  What began as an investigation into the unexplained activity at a
• 1:15:53
  lively downtown bar. Has opened the door to a much larger mystery,
• 1:15:58
  and one will undoubtedly continue exploring. If you've had an unexplained
• 1:16:02
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• 1:16:11
  mysteries that echo throughout the South. Until next time, stay close.