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Mark interviews author Ann Coulter. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mark Simone, live from the WOR LifeVac studios. Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we had a little trouble with our phone lines. We
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  Speaker 1: can't take any calls and it's tough. We found Ann Coulter,
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  Speaker 1: the great columnist, the best-selling author, also Rumble star. Make
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  Speaker 1: sure you're following and watching her Rumble channel. And then
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  Speaker 1: Ann Coulter on Twitter, of course. And then Substack. Substack's
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  Speaker 1: really good. All those videos and podcasts and interviews. Just
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  Speaker 1: go to anncoulter.substack.com. Ann Coulter, how are you doing? Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, Mark Simone?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Our phones are having trouble. AT & T.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know where to start. AI, it's going to kill
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  Speaker 1: us all. Is that the case? We're all going to
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  Speaker 1: get wiped out?
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  Speaker 2: No, I've been... I've been writing about it. I talked
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  Speaker 2: about it on my podcast. No, this is a classic
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  Speaker 2: case of the industry giants in an emerging field demanding
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  Speaker 2: regulations so they can freeze their, well, if not monopoly, oligopoly,
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  Speaker 2: because government regulations are always much more difficult for a
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  Speaker 2: new entrant to comply with. That's a huge part of
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  Speaker 2: their startup costs. George Stigler, probably you pronounce it, uh...
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  Speaker 2: at university of chicago won a nobel prize an accountant
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  Speaker 2: he's an economist uh... twenty years ago for pointing this
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  Speaker 2: out that regulation is just he used the phrase industry
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  Speaker 2: capture uh... it's great for for the oligopoly it's great
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  Speaker 2: for politicians because because the monopoly companies will give them
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money they will buy themselves their own
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  Speaker 2: politicians uh... but terrible for consumers and they're just and
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  Speaker 2: and There are endless examples of this. One of the
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  Speaker 2: funniest ones, just on regulation generally, is Philip Morris pushing
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  Speaker 2: for the Keep Tobacco Out of the Hands of Children
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  Speaker 2: Act in 2009, which became referred to as the Marlboro
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  Speaker 2: Monopoly Act, because the things it prohibited, like billboards, free samples,
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  Speaker 2: branded merchandise, uh... you know marlboro borough how did it
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  Speaker 2: it's lobbyists channing out and claiming oh it's for the
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  Speaker 2: children it for the children but for a startup company
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  Speaker 2: you know that's how you get people interested in your
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  Speaker 2: product actually advertising um... uh... i think that's exactly what
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  Speaker 2: doctor borough has done recently with his gigantic settlement uh...
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  Speaker 2: but chump change for for a company like meta with
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  Speaker 2: these hysterical women over social media And that's all nonsense, too.
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  Speaker 2: Social media is good for you. Don't believe this absurdity.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they used to say the games, the pinball machines,
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  Speaker 2: comic book machines, everything the young people do is always
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  Speaker 2: terrifying old people. There are a lot of fantastic advantages
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  Speaker 2: of people being on social media. But it will freeze
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  Speaker 2: out any competitors to Zuckerberg's vast empire. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: clearly dominates social media. And that's exactly what these AI
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  Speaker 2: companies are doing. It's very expensive. One is going public
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  Speaker 2: next month. I think that one's open AI and anthropic...
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  Speaker 2: Or no, I think I reversed it. Anthropic next month,
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  Speaker 2: open AI next year. So if they fan out claiming
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  Speaker 2: it's going to kill us all, it has the possibility
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  Speaker 2: to just kill every human being... I mean, for Pete's sake, Mark,
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  Speaker 2: have you used it? It won't even correct punctuation. It's absurd.
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  Speaker 2: It sold a Chevrolet for a dollar in one case.
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  Speaker 2: Some Chevrolet company decided to use, I think it was ChatGPT,
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  Speaker 2: just to negotiate the final deal with customers over cars.
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  Speaker 2: And all these ChatGPT bots, or let's just say chatbots,
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  Speaker 2: were selling... 70, $ 80, 000 cars for a dollar and concluding with, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's a deal. No takesie-backsies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the other thing, you know, if we slow down
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  Speaker 1: on AI, China will simply keep going and beat us.
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  Speaker 1: If AI really is capable of wiping us all up,
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  Speaker 1: we better make sure we control it and not China.
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  Speaker 1: So don't the Democrats prove the point?
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  Speaker 2: And it's not going to wipe us all out. This
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  Speaker 2: is one of the things I played, I think, a
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  Speaker 2: very interesting clip of. uh... from this from this guy
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  Speaker 2: from entropic oh internally this jacob coxon which i described
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  Speaker 2: in my column last week uh... you know he's made
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  Speaker 2: a big deal how he has no he's walked away
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  Speaker 2: he's quit entropic no equity in entropic so he had
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  Speaker 2: there's no possible benefit to him saying this which has
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  Speaker 2: been repeated without question throughout the media uh... you'll believe
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  Speaker 2: it only at entropic for a couple of months he
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  Speaker 2: was at open a for three years and he does
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  Speaker 2: still have equity in that company So if investors are
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  Speaker 2: persuaded to think, oh my gosh, this stuff must be powerful,
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  Speaker 2: it's so powerful it could blow up the world, they'll
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  Speaker 2: start writing their billion-dollar checks and he will become even
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  Speaker 2: richer than he is already going to become. The odds
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  Speaker 2: right now are that OpenAI will make Jacob Cox between
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  Speaker 2: $ 10 and $ 50 million. Well, that'll be at the upper
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  Speaker 2: end if he can get people... I'm really excited about this.
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  Speaker 2: And the quote, he gave an interview to, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know who it was with, but someone asked him,
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  Speaker 2: and oh my gosh, did they struggle to answer this.
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  Speaker 2: How exactly is AI going to kill all of us,
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  Speaker 2: as you say? And that's his quote. It will kill
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  Speaker 2: all of us. So when he begins to answer this,
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  Speaker 2: it was surprisingly honest. He said, Well, it's easier to
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  Speaker 2: explain to people who know nothing about computers. And then
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  Speaker 2: he goes on to say, it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: sci-fi movie, Terminator. So, great, you can snow people who
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this goes back to, you wrote this book called Demonic,
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  Speaker 1: and in there you point out that the left, for
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  Speaker 1: millions of years, the left has always had some big demon,
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  Speaker 1: boogeyman that's going to kill everybody. and only they can
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  Speaker 1: save you. So is this one of those things again?
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  Speaker 2: Well, not only that, and I thought this was odd,
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  Speaker 2: this Le Bon, his book about crowds, he was the
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  Speaker 2: one 100 years ago, and not long after the French Revolution,
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  Speaker 2: came up with the whole concept of groupthink and how
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  Speaker 2: it operates, and that was the book I relied on.
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  Speaker 2: Gustave Le Bon is his name. slim little book but
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  Speaker 2: it's it's unbelievable in predicting exactly how liberal today behave
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  Speaker 2: which is their their group dynamic and interestingly one of
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  Speaker 2: the one of the factors is not only the you
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  Speaker 2: know creating a demon but uh... i suppose that's present
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of behaviors fear of new technology and
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  Speaker 2: i think all of his liberals they're afraid of nuclear
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  Speaker 2: power Look at all of their silly products lawsuits they have.
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  Speaker 2: Breast implants were banned for, what, like a decade or so?
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  Speaker 2: I think they're back in use now. What are the other, oh, they,
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  Speaker 2: all these, any new, like, technology going up, it's always
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  Speaker 2: these cancer clusters and cancer clusters. It's just law of
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  Speaker 2: large numbers in a big world with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people and a lot of stuff. There are going to
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  Speaker 2: be some coincidences. like there will be a party someplace
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  Speaker 2: in the world tonight where everyone, complete strangers, will walk
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  Speaker 2: in and they will have the same birthday. How could
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  Speaker 2: that possibly happen? Well, because there are a million parties
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  Speaker 2: all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I guess climate change isn't working anymore. Nobody's
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  Speaker 1: falling for this 30 years later. We're all going to
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  Speaker 1: be wiped out.
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  Speaker 2: But look at what they use climate change for. They
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  Speaker 2: want us to go back and live like the Indians.
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  Speaker 2: We have to get rid of all modern conveniences. The
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  Speaker 2: one particularly annoying me right now is this, doing some renovations,
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  Speaker 2: is all this low-flow crap. And would you please get
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  Speaker 2: through to your president? That was one of the great
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  Speaker 2: things about this man. He promised he would end the
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous EPA regulations on how many gallons of water you
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  Speaker 2: can have in your toilet. You know, it used to be...
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  Speaker 2: I know you were dying to know about toilets. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to satisfy your curiosity.
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  Speaker 1: They've got these low-flow, one-gallon tanks that take four hours
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  Speaker 1: to flush.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got to get this. It used to be
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  Speaker 2: like five to seven gallons. Now, nationally, the most you
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  Speaker 2: can have is 1.6 gallons. But in New York, New Jersey, California,
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  Speaker 2: and like 10 other states, you can only have 1.28 gallons.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to see the math on that. Who
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  Speaker 2: came up with exactly 1.28?
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course, if you get the right plumber and
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  Speaker 1: give them a few bucks, they can arrange to make
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  Speaker 1: your shower head flow a little more.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is that they're always afraid of new technology.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird how liberals are like this. But in this case,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's more than that. I think it is
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  Speaker 2: a scam so they can make more money. So they
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  Speaker 2: can get a monopoly. I mean, what does, as I
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  Speaker 2: think Milton Friedman and everyone who's ever considered, what does
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  Speaker 2: every businessman want to do? Try to get a monopoly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you've got four AI companies right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cartel. They control the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This regulation stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But there are a lot of up-and-comers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but you get enough regulation, it's kind of closing
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  Speaker 1: them out, shutting the gates so they can't get in. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ann Coulter has a great Rumble channel. What do
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  Speaker 1: you got coming up on Rumble?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you should see last week's column and podcast for
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  Speaker 2: further details and links on all this AI crap. And
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  Speaker 2: Rumble will be live tomorrow at 5, and I'll do
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  Speaker 2: my five stories, which are always fascinating. And I have
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  Speaker 2: some good ones this week, though I'm going to keep
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  Speaker 2: looking between now and 5 p.m. tomorrow. And I have
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  Speaker 2: a column on some of the preposterous AI fails. coming
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  Speaker 2: out in today's column because I was describing it to
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  Speaker 2: one of my friends, and he kept laughing and saying,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to write this up, you've got to print this.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought, okay, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, everybody check it out. Just go to
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  Speaker 1: Ann Coulter on Twitter, or even better, go to anncoulter.substack.com, anncoulter.substack.com,
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  Speaker 1: and watch her Rumble channel and get her books. Ann Coulter,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Mark Simone. Bye-bye.
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