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The Bolt Report | 22 January · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Juss the Good Report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Donald Trump's stunning coup on day two, a massive
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  Speaker 2: deal that could save your life. Plus how Trump haters
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  Speaker 2: in the media claim Trump backer Elon Musk is flashing
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  Speaker 2: Nazi salutes. Let me show you how the media lies.
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  Speaker 2: And Tenet's Australia conned into not celebrating Australia Day on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: That's got to change. And plenty more coming up. But first,
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Alban easy, he's under so much pressure over this
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  Speaker 2: anti Jewish terrorism, let loose under his watch that no
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  Speaker 2: wonder He today jumped at what looks like an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: It's foreigners who have been whipping up some of the
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  Speaker 2: burning Jewish targets. Nothing to do with anything our poor
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  Speaker 2: Prime minis is done or not done.
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  Speaker 3: It would appear, as the AFP Commissioner said yesterday, that
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  Speaker 3: some of these are being perpetrated by people who don't
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  Speaker 3: have a particular issued, aren't motivated by an ideology, but
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  Speaker 3: are paid actors.
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  Speaker 2: And even better, that Federal Police Commissioner today repeated to
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  Speaker 2: the cameras what it said only in a press release
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  Speaker 2: like yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: We believe criminals for hire maybe behind some incidents, so
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  Speaker 4: part of our inquiries include who is paying those criminals,
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  Speaker 4: where those people are, whether they are in Australia or offshore,
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  Speaker 4: and what their motivation is.
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  Speaker 2: How grateful Albanis must be for anything that might suggest
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  Speaker 2: that this explosion of due hatred here has nothing to
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  Speaker 2: do with his anti Israel revel rousing as he touts
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  Speaker 2: with Muslim and Green votes. How useful for a prime
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  Speaker 2: minister under such enormous criticism over his weakness in dealing
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  Speaker 2: with this new terrorism if he can claim that some
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  Speaker 2: of the people terrifying Jews, fire bombing synagogues, cars, even
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  Speaker 2: childcare centers aren't motivated by ideology like Islam, But are
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  Speaker 2: randoms just paid by foreigners now for operational reasons. The
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  Speaker 2: AFP isn't saying what information they've got to back up
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  Speaker 2: the suggestion that local criminals may be paid by foreign
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  Speaker 2: players in cryptocurrency to attack Jewish targets Here. Maybe the
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  Speaker 2: AFP boss is playing mind games with his real targets,
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  Speaker 2: but I respect him as a serious man, so let's
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  Speaker 2: take him at his word. It's actually not hard then
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  Speaker 2: to guess who these foreign actors are that is probably
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  Speaker 2: talking about now. The opposition speculates it could be Irun,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I doubt the Ranian embassy would
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  Speaker 2: know how to safely contact street criminals in Australia and
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  Speaker 2: pay them to torch things. But there are organizations that
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  Speaker 2: are Muslim or Middle Eastern which certainly do know that,
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  Speaker 2: and in fact have already burned down scores of buildings
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  Speaker 2: in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide. These are gangs
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  Speaker 2: alleged to involve members of Middle Eastern background, local gangs
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  Speaker 2: especially all this is allegedly from Victoria, who are fighting
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  Speaker 2: over the illegal tobacco trade in the war that so
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  Speaker 2: far had around two hundred shops set on fire, including
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty one in Victoria and fourteen in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: These are also again often far as lipped by street
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  Speaker 2: hoods or sometimes even children, but the gangs that pay
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  Speaker 2: them they are serious, and we have seen many examples
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  Speaker 2: of many senior gang figures now living or hiding overseas,
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  Speaker 2: always in Muslim countries including Iraq and Lebanon, and q Wait,
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  Speaker 2: the Turkey, Malaysia. And it's a guess, of course, I
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  Speaker 2: know why any gang members might now be burning Jewish
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  Speaker 2: targets as well, posers Muslim heroes maybe attract foot soldiers
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  Speaker 2: from other milism crime gangs, or maybe please the people
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  Speaker 2: protecting them in Muslim countries, or could they have been
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  Speaker 2: recruited by some country to create havoc here so it
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  Speaker 2: could be Irun In fact, you know, the head of
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  Speaker 2: Britain's m I five last year said there had been
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  Speaker 2: twenty Iranian backplots targeting United Kingdom citizens and residents since
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  Speaker 2: the start of twenty twenty two twenty and in these plots,
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  Speaker 2: Uranian state actors make extensive use of criminals as proxies,
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  Speaker 2: from international drug traffickers to low level crooks and indeed investigators.
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  Speaker 2: In Germany and France September seed Iranian agents acted through
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  Speaker 2: European drug traffickers to spy on Jews in France and Germany.
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  Speaker 2: But like I SAIDFP Commissioner isn't going to come in
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  Speaker 2: on all that. I'm guessing he's saying the minimum he
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  Speaker 2: needs to say to, you know, shake the tree and
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  Speaker 2: see what flies out, what messages get sent out. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know now if his theory sounds a little bit
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  Speaker 2: out there to you. Hear this from the new Southwest
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  Speaker 2: premier who seem to suggest again that some of these
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  Speaker 2: attacks are not just the work of local scumbags acting alone.
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  Speaker 4: This is not just malicious damage or random graffiti, as
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  Speaker 4: appalling as that would be if it was racially motivated.
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  Speaker 5: These are sophisticated attacks.
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  Speaker 2: But however, glad Albanism may be about this theory that
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  Speaker 2: foreign players are behind the worst that or at least
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  Speaker 2: Australians overseas. Who knows he is a fool if he
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  Speaker 2: thinks it saves him because overseas actors haven't been bashing
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  Speaker 2: Jews in our streets or screaming abuse the Jews outside synagogues,
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  Speaker 2: or chanting where's the Jews outside the Sydney Opera house?
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  Speaker 2: Or preaching jew hatred in mosques here, or menacing Jewish
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  Speaker 2: students universities, or abusing Jewish artists. Are performances and in
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  Speaker 2: a thousand different ways, making Jews feel persecuted like never
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  Speaker 2: before in Australia. And even these overseas actors, if they
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  Speaker 2: have been organized in the burnings of synagogues, they now
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  Speaker 2: may well be Australians as well, some potentially from families
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  Speaker 2: we should never have let my grade hear importing hatreds
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  Speaker 2: that our politicians didn't understand or wouldn't admit. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: true that not everyone chose so far with anti submitted
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  Speaker 2: attacks appears to be from Muslim or the Middle East,
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  Speaker 2: but the conflict is born there. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: how an easy understands how it's making all this worse.
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  Speaker 2: I think he should have known it fifteen months ago,
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  Speaker 2: on the very day that hamaslaughter at twelve hundred Jews
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  Speaker 2: that we are here too in a war to defend
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  Speaker 2: Western civilization. Albanies wouldn't see it. Maybe it's too greedy
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  Speaker 2: for votes of Muslims and the hard left. He betrayed
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  Speaker 2: israeling in ourther nations he urges rather stop fighting for
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  Speaker 2: its survival. He gave tourism visas to three thousand Palestinians
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  Speaker 2: from Jew hating Gaza, and he kept through things like
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  Speaker 2: that and more, legitimizing the Jew haters by attacking Israel,
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  Speaker 2: helping to demonize it. And now you can only tut
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  Speaker 2: tut about the way people are expressing that hatred and
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  Speaker 2: scramble like crazy again today to dodge responsibility, like today,
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  Speaker 2: denying what I told you last night, that this government
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  Speaker 2: was actually going to send Senate President Sue Lines to
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  Speaker 2: Poland for the eighteenth anniversary the liberation Walschwitz, the camp
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  Speaker 2: with Nazis murdered a million Jews. I mean, can you
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  Speaker 2: believe it sending Sue Lines when she's campaigned against Israel,
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  Speaker 2: accused of apartheid, accused her of war crimes, and called
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  Speaker 2: this creation of catastrophe. I mentioned all this last night,
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  Speaker 2: oh No, said Albanezy. Today scar News had got that
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  Speaker 2: all wrong. Lanes was going to lead this delegation. Probably
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  Speaker 2: isn't going at all.
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  Speaker 3: I approve our international travel Penny Wong will lead the delegation,
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  Speaker 3: accompanied by Mark Dreyfuss. The reports were wrong. The person
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  Speaker 3: leading the delegation to Oswitz is our Foreign Minister, Penny Wong.
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  Speaker 2: He had no idea, our minister, how we had come
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  Speaker 2: to report such a silly story. How would it god out?
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea where that came from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is bizarre because it's Kamen read and here
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  Speaker 2: at Sky News as reporter has done some great reporting
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  Speaker 2: on This was actually a memo from Sneer Chatterjee, the
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  Speaker 2: first assistant secretary from Albanize's Department of Home Affairs that
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  Speaker 2: actually listed to Lines as the head of the delegation listened,
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  Speaker 2: a staff member of hers also going while andrefus not
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  Speaker 2: even mentioned Lines, was going suddenly not honestly, just be
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  Speaker 2: honest with this prime minister. But since alban Ezi started
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  Speaker 2: the show with Albanize quoting the strain Federal Police, let's
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  Speaker 2: hear one more thing from them to sum it all up.
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  Speaker 2: His former AFP Detective Superintendent David Krag, who today summed
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  Speaker 2: up Albanezi's leadership in this crisis.
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  Speaker 5: Are you saying this federal government has allowed this sort
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  Speaker 5: of hate speech to fester?
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  Speaker 6: I'm saying that I've done a six different prime ministers
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  Speaker 6: in the Australian Federal Police, a lot of my time
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  Speaker 6: in Cana terrorism, and I've never seen such a jelly
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  Speaker 6: George Spino's response to hatred and UnAustralian behavior by a
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  Speaker 6: prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: Can anyone say that man is wrong? Joining me is
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  Speaker 2: James Patterson, the Opposition's Home Affairs spokesman, James Patterson, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for joining me. The Prime minister says we were wrong
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  Speaker 2: to report that it had picked Sue Lines an anti
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  Speaker 2: Israel campaign that represented at Ulschwitz where a million Jews
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  Speaker 2: were murdered, which seems highly inappropriate. For her to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe that he did know where anything about it?
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  Speaker 2: And as the story is wrong.
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  Speaker 7: No, I think the Prime Minister is being dishonest. Yet again,
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  Speaker 7: your colleague Cameron has the facts in black and white
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  Speaker 7: an email from the Department of Home Affairs dated in
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  Speaker 7: December last year, which named the President of the Senate,
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  Speaker 7: Sue Lyones, as the delegation leader and even named a
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  Speaker 7: member of her staff who would be accompanying her along
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  Speaker 7: with other delegation members. It seems very clear that the
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  Speaker 7: government made a bad decision, that they regretted it, and
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  Speaker 7: they're now trying to cover up their tracks. And it
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  Speaker 7: is a shocking decision because Sue Lines is one of
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  Speaker 7: the most anti Israel MPs in the Australian Parliament. But
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  Speaker 7: the government's backup plan is not much better. I can
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  Speaker 7: tell you that the decision to send the Foreign Minister
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  Speaker 7: Pennywong has gone down almost as badly with the Australian
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  Speaker 7: Jewish community as Sue Lyones has, because, of course, Penny
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  Speaker 7: Wong has led the international vilification of the State of
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  Speaker 7: Israel while it has been defending itself from a listed
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  Speaker 7: terrorist organization that conducted the worst atrocity against Jews since
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  Speaker 7: the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 2: Then again, you'd be hard put to find anyone in
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  Speaker 2: this government that has been a friend of the Jewish
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  Speaker 2: community in Australian senior enough to represent the government today. Schwitz.
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  Speaker 2: It is just such a scandal, it's a disgrace. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the Australian Federal Police and Anthony Abernezi have said today
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  Speaker 2: that overseas actors may be behind some of this anti
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  Speaker 2: Jewish terrorism here. Does that seem credible.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it's theoretically possible. It's certainly something that an overseas
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  Speaker 7: actor might be willing to do, but it's not something
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  Speaker 7: that should be put into the media without very solid foundation,
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  Speaker 7: without strong intelligence and strong evidence, and from what I understand,
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  Speaker 7: that does not appear to be the case. And putting
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  Speaker 7: this out here today has struck incredible fear in the
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  Speaker 7: hearts of the Jewish community. I have been contacted by
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  Speaker 7: multiple members of the community to ask me whether or
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  Speaker 7: not the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran,
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  Speaker 7: is trying to kill Australian Jews as a result of
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  Speaker 7: this public statement. Now, I think that's a responsibilitink that's dangerous,
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  Speaker 7: that this speculation has been allowed to put out there,
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  Speaker 7: and the Prime Minister does need to be more upfront
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  Speaker 7: about what he knows, when he found out about it,
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  Speaker 7: and what he's doing about it to make sure that
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  Speaker 7: our community here Australia is safe.
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  Speaker 2: Now, my guest show I call it that is that
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  Speaker 2: they're probably looking at criminal gains middle Eastern criminal gains,
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  Speaker 2: but Middle Eastern as an Australian Middle Eastern, and that Iran,
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  Speaker 2: who knows Iran might have hard it. In fact, Iran
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  Speaker 2: overseas as reportedly used criminal games already in Britain, France
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  Speaker 2: and Germany's if it's done that here as well, what
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  Speaker 2: does it mean how should we react?
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  Speaker 7: Well, it means that the Prime Minister's weak and slow
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  Speaker 7: response to this crisis would be even worse than we
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  Speaker 7: thought it was, because he wouldn't have just failed to
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  Speaker 7: deal with a domestic terrorism crisis, but potentially an international
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  Speaker 7: state sponsored terrorism crisis on his watch at targeting the
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  Speaker 7: Australian Jewish community. It means the response from him should
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  Speaker 7: have been even tougher and stronger and swifter because it's
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  Speaker 7: the most serious national security crisis we've faced outside of wartime.
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  Speaker 7: It's the most serious peacetime security crisis we would have faced.
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  Speaker 7: And does the government give you any sense that they're
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  Speaker 7: treating it with that level of seriousness, that they're putting
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  Speaker 7: that level of resources or energy behind this task. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: he had to be convinced to hold a national cabinet,
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  Speaker 7: and even when he finally agreed to do so, the
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  Speaker 7: only outcome was a new database tracking anti Semitic incidents.
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  Speaker 7: We already have databases tracking anti Semitic incidents, and that's
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  Speaker 7: not going to stop terrorists blowing up synagogues or childcare centers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if he can if it turns out
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  Speaker 2: in fact that it is true that some of the
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  Speaker 2: worst attacks have been caused by people overseas hiring maybe
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  Speaker 2: criminal gains here or just low lives to torch Jewish
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  Speaker 2: buildings or whatever. If that does prove the case, does
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  Speaker 2: that mean then that you can't keep blaming the worst
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  Speaker 2: attacks in Albanesi's week leadership.
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  Speaker 7: No, Andrew, because strong action and deterrence could help have
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  Speaker 7: rented this in the first place, and could still help
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  Speaker 7: prevent further attacks like this happening as well. Because even
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  Speaker 7: if people are being paid to do this by foreign actors.
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  Speaker 7: They still fear the consequences of the law, and locking
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  Speaker 7: them away with strong mandatory minimum sentences would not only
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  Speaker 7: send a strong deterrence effect to those people, but would
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  Speaker 7: also help get them off the streets and remove the
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  Speaker 7: danger that they pose to the community. So I think
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  Speaker 7: it would be an even further and more serious indictment
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  Speaker 7: on the Prime Minister's weakness if this is in fact
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  Speaker 7: the case.
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  Speaker 2: Senator James Patterson, thank you so much indeed for your time.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, huge new deal on day two. But Antony
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  Speaker 2: Albanezi has his election campaign already run off the road.
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  Speaker 2: So when you see the leadership that Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 2: offered America in just the first two days, you watch
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  Speaker 2: and weep. Why can't we have some of that here
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  Speaker 2: here in Australia. Our politicians are spending billions billions to
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  Speaker 2: get rid of oil and gas and just making us poor.
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  Speaker 2: In America, Trump's going the other way. Yesterday scrapped restrictions
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  Speaker 2: on gas exploration, as I told you, quit the Paris
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  Speaker 2: Agreement to cut emissions. Today got three tech billionaires to
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  Speaker 2: say that we're now investing five hundred billion dollars US
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  Speaker 2: dollars in artificial intelligence, which needs massive amounts of electricity.
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  Speaker 8: Together, these world leading technology giants are announcing the formation
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  Speaker 8: of Stargate.
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  Speaker 2: So put that name down in your.
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  Speaker 8: Books, because I think you're going to hear a lot
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  Speaker 8: about it in the future. A new American company that
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  Speaker 8: will invest five hundred billion dollars at least in AI
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  Speaker 8: infrastructure in the United States and very very quickly, moving
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  Speaker 8: very rapidly, creating over one hundred thousand American jobs almost immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, mister President. We certainly couldn't do this without you.
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  Speaker 2: This is the beginning of gold Age. We wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: decided unless you won.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't be able to do this without you, mister President.
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  Speaker 2: The AI they were talking about is particularly for health,
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  Speaker 2: Larry Ellison explained. It includes using this is unbelievable, using
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  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence through identify cancers very early, just from fragments
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  Speaker 2: of the cancer in a simple blood test, then design
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  Speaker 2: a genome sequence of that cancer, of that tumor, and
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  Speaker 2: then work out a vaccine, design a vaccine against that
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  Speaker 2: cancer that is specific to you, plus make it in
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  Speaker 2: just forty eight hours. I mean, this is absolutely massive,
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  Speaker 2: but it needed giant amounts of electricity that you will
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  Speaker 2: not get from wind and solar. Trump rammed home that message.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to help a lot through emergency declarations because
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  Speaker 8: we have an emergency. We have to get this stuff built,
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  Speaker 8: So they have to produce a lot of electricity, and
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  Speaker 8: we'll make it possible for them to get that production
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  Speaker 8: done very easily.
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  Speaker 2: Joined me is the political panel, Camera Milner Forma, chief
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  Speaker 2: of Stuff, the labor leader, Bill Short now director of
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  Speaker 2: g XO Strategies, and Michael Costa, former New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: Labor Treasurer Cameron. Here's the Trump effect happening right before
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  Speaker 2: our eyes. And to me, the difference with Australia is frightening.
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  Speaker 2: There they're building the future. Here we're into decline.
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  Speaker 9: Well that's right, and let's put aside the fact that
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  Speaker 9: some people have got to view about Trump. He was
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  Speaker 9: democratically elected and overwhelmingly democratically elected. He's now implementing that mandate.
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  Speaker 9: So you know, full full marks to Trump in terms
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  Speaker 9: of getting out there and getting it done as quickly
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  Speaker 9: as humanly possible. But the good thing is there.
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  Speaker 2: Was an election.
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  Speaker 9: There's election that elected to Donald Trump, and this year
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  Speaker 9: Ethie Albanez can't hide any longer. He can't double around
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  Speaker 9: any longer. You can't slip in slide Andrew. Judgment day
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  Speaker 9: is coming for Albow, but a March April or May.
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  Speaker 9: We've got election coming up in Australia too, and we've
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  Speaker 9: going to vote for a strong leader in difficult times,
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  Speaker 9: just the way America did.
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  Speaker 2: Michael. There was a little bit of I think slippery
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  Speaker 2: slady going on there, because clearly you don't come up
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  Speaker 2: with the five hundred billion dollars of promise the investment
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  Speaker 2: just two days after as Trumps sworn in, or even
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  Speaker 2: in the couple of months since the election. He did
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  Speaker 2: say he'd been talking to these guys for months. But
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  Speaker 2: clearly key to this is more electricity, and that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be the difference. They're racing for more electricity, we're
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  Speaker 2: racing to a system where there's not enough of it.
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  Speaker 10: No, there's no doubt about that. And generally, I mean,
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  Speaker 10: I'm still a skeptic about some of the Trump's policies.
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  Speaker 10: I've got a big rank about that. But generally the world,
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  Speaker 10: you know, as a sense of relief at the moment,
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  Speaker 10: we've stepped out of dementia award we've been in for
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  Speaker 10: the last four years, and clearly there's some movement, and
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  Speaker 10: you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: These tech entrepreneurs would have been working on these programs for.
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  Speaker 10: Years and they would have probably done it with an
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  Speaker 10: incoming democratic institution as well.
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  Speaker 1: But remember the contrast is very clear.
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  Speaker 10: You know, you've got AI are driven by nuclear energy primarily,
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  Speaker 10: and we know that because they're reopening Three Mile Island.
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  Speaker 10: Microsoft is doing that. Google's building the small nuclear reactors
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  Speaker 10: that Bowen's out there trashing around the world. And look
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  Speaker 10: at our contrasts. We're building, you know, the future made
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  Speaker 10: in China proposal that Charmers is running around with, and
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  Speaker 10: we're talking about quantum computers that don't exist, the basic
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  Speaker 10: infrastructure doesn't exist, driven.
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  Speaker 1: By green hydrogen that doesn't exist. You know, kind of dramatic.
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  Speaker 10: Contrast between sky ideology in the sky and practical solutions
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  Speaker 10: on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So true, you put it so well, Building something a
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  Speaker 2: concept that doesn't exist with an energy source that doesn't exist,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, what on Earth is going on? But listen,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I've got to Cameron give a big tick to the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Albanezi government. Is one good sign that Foreign Minutes of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Penny one did today get a meeting with Trump's new
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Secretary of State Marco Rubio to talk about defense, why
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Trump shouldn't hit US with tariffs. And this is access
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to Rubio on his first full day in the job.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: That has to be a real plus. What does it
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: tell you.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: Well, I think it means that Kevin Rudd's been working
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: over time since since November. I mean, Kevin Rudds knows
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: how to use the political lubricant to greeze the wheels.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: So I think full marks the Ambassador rut fact you're
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: getting on and doing the job for Australia. Good to
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: see that we've got that entrede with Rubio. But let's
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: see the proof of the pudding and let's see what
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: President Trump decides to do in terms of tariffs.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Optim and Michael, oh.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't think Kevin Rudds had anything to do
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: with this.
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: I mean the bottom line is Australia has two very
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: strong positives in relation to the US. Firstly, the US
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: runs a trade surplus with Australia, but don't forget that
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: it's in their interests to ensure that they keep that
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: trade surplus. And secondly, I mean we are critical to
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: the US defense alliance and certainly.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: They're critical to us, but they need us.
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: We've got installations here all over Australia that are part
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: of the Five Eyes. In addition, we're working together with
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: them on the defense of the South China Sea. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: think they're the two important things. Trump's always had a
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: reasonable soft spot for Australia, and I think that's independent
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: of Kevin rud.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Cameron. This is your first time on the show for
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the year, so glad to have you back. The thank
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you election likewise that's coming up is less than three
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: months away. Okay, Albaniz, he started the year early earlier
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: than you did. How is he handling the start of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: this critical election year? Having looked, for instance, now today's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: controversies about who's the sent to Auschwitz of all things.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Well, look, I don't think he started the year well
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: on anti Semitism, not at all. I mean he's been
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: brought kicking and screaming to this National Cabinet meeting only yesterday,
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: and again it was kind of a half baked idea.
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: It wasn't actually dealing with the perpetrayers. It wasn't seeing
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: them to jail, It wasn't cracking down hard on the
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: way we actually need him to as the Prime Minis
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: of Australia. But no, the problem for Albanie, the problem
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: for Labor is the more voters see him, the more
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: they don't like it. I mean, you look at the
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: polls they're coming out. This is not some Christmas bounce
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: that should have been occurring here. Albo's been out campaigning
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: and voters have been seeing him and that's a huge
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: problem for Labor going forward. As they go to the election,
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: voters are reminded of what they didn't like in twenty
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: four reminded what they had broken promises from the last election.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: And let's not forget Albo's best week in the twenty
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: twenty two campaign was when he had COVID was a
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: home on the couch with Toto.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Michael Kossuh.
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: I mean, certainly I agree with the analysis of Albo,
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: and he's always been weak as a leader. He's never
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: been a leader. However, I think this is deeper than Albo.
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: This is all of their policies. They're crazy policies that
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: are effectively economic vandalism.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And you can start with the Treasurer on that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: You know, public sector wages, the pressure on the budget,
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: the fact that that's feeding into the cost of living
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: and the inability of interest.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Rates to come down.
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: Then you've got bowing on energy, which we just discussed,
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: and then you know the legacy of Burke in ir
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: which is making all of our industries, particularly small businesses,
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: struggle to survive. I think it's the whole package. You know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: if the economic stuff was going well at even as weak.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: As he iss, would survive. But it's not going well,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and he's in serious trouble.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Michael Cossa camer Milner. Great to have you back. Thank
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time after the break, Trump's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: first brawl with journalists only two days in and a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: bishop as well. Plus more anti Trump derangement. How the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: media is lying about Elon must supposedly Nazi salute at
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a Trump rally. This is a strangers in it. I mean,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: didn't the Democrats and a lot of journalists warn us
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that Donald Trump would be a dictator on day one
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and start arresting his enemies. You mean they lied to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: us again about here? It have the same all over again.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Trump has a genius for making his enemies go nuts
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and hysterical and a little bit dictatorial themselves. You take
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the Episcopalian bishop of the Washington National Cathedral. This woman
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: who is angry eyes might just tell you a bit
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: about politics. She abused the position at the poolpit to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: give Donald Trump a political lecture. She's above. In this
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: screen you're going to see and Vice President Vance and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Trump's reaction you will see below.
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: I ask you.
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: To have mercy upon the people in our country who
• 26:23
  Speaker 12: are scared. Now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children
• 26:30
  Speaker 12: in Democratic, Republican and independent families, some who fear for
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: their lives.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: There's more of the saying. Really at Trump's press conference
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: today is second in two days, mind you, when Joe
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Barden gave almost none. So you think journals would at
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: least be grateful, that welcome this opening up, this new accountability.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But for some it was war all over again.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Their lives have been ruined and in medicare listen to
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: me for a second. Stop interrupting. We won this election
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: and a landslide because the American public is tired of
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: people like you that are just one sided, horrible people.
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: In terms of crime, you don't talk about all the
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: people that have been killed and what happens to those murderers.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But the absolute worst is the media left going crazy
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: about Trump's new best friend and advisory, Musk in a
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: events supposedly giving Nazi salutes a Trump's inauguration Rarey yesterday.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Here's how CNN presented it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: I just want to look at that salute that he
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: gave again. Just if anybody missed it, we'll just show
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: it again. He's just wrapped up here.
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: You can hear the.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: All right, So we just showed that. We just showed that, right,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it's worth salute.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Democrat politicians went ape. Of course, Hil Hitler salute, said
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Alexandria O Kajia Cortez. Democrat Senator Chris Evans, among others,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: said the same.
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: What do you think of Elon Musk, perhaps the President's
• 28:14
  Speaker 14: most visible advisor, doing two Heil Hitler salutes last night
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: at the President's televi Is rally.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Let me show you now the full footage. Let me
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: expose the lie. Musk is actually pro Israel and he
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: met Israel's president relatives or Jewish hostages, and what CNN
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: left out shows that Musk was actually offering the crowd
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: there his heart.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you for making it happen.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you. My heart goes out to here, I mean
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: really joining me is Rondin. It'swer in Chief, Spectator's thread,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: hosts of Outsiders here in sky News every Sunday at
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: nine am plus. This is new show by the Way
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the World according to Rowan Dean on Fridays at seven
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: pm Rowan, great to see you again. First, that's sm
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: of Elon Musk. You know, all right, if you cut
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the hem is short, looks like a Nazi salute. Clearly
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is not a Nazi. He's a sympathizer of Israel's strange
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Nazi So you've got to be deranged to think he
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is one. And when you look at the context, I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: mean really, it's clearly he's not intending to do anything
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: of the card. So are these journalists and politicians who
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: said he's giving a Nazi salute? Are they mad or
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: simply liars? Well, probably a bit of both.
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: But above all they are desperate. The Democrats, the left wing,
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: the work whatever you want to call them, crowd, They've
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: reached the very bottom of the barrel. There's nothing left
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: in their armory. They have absolutely nothing. It's taken them
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: eight years of throwing everything they possibly could from the
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: lowest sort of grubby insult to the full body of
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: court rooms and judges and law cases and everything. They've
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: tried to throw everything at Donald Trump, and now they've
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: got nothing. The American people have said, we're not interested
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: in your smears on Donald Trump. So what have they done.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: They've got to turn to the next person. They tried
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: with JD. Vans, but the American public like him as well,
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: so they're now looking They can't attack Ramaswami because that
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: would be racist, obviously, so they're looking around. Oh, Elon Musk.
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: He's a high profile figure of Donald Trump's let's attack him.
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: And pretty much anything Elon Musks is going to do
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: will now come under savage attack from the left. Fortunately,
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: Elon is too big and too wealthy to care. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: this is the problem that Democrats have to call that
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: a Hitles salute was laughable. He was throwing his heart
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: out to the crowd, a dramatic gesture that they really
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: are not only scraping the bottom of the barrel for
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: their insults. The reality, Andrew, is that this sort of
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: stuff works with some people. So some people who want
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: to think that Donald Trump is the devil incarnate and
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: want to think that Bilon Musk is a Nazi, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: so on and so forth. They will just regurgitate what
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: they hear on the news. But then they will repeat
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: it as you said, showed those journalists doing, and they'll go, oh,
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: he's a Nazi's Nazi. But for the broad public of America,
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: they've heard this stuff over and over again and it
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: just shows. It just reinforces how correct they were to
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: vote for Donald Trump and his team.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was strange Nazi. He's explained on TV.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I has got a pendent around his neck that a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: mother of a hostage gave him a Jewish hostage being
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: held by Hamas, and he swore that he would never
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: remove it until the last hostage was released. It's a
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: very strange Nazi. That's, you know, carrying mementos praying for
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the return of Jewish hostages. So when they say that
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: it's a Nazi salute, they must know this. I'm sure
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: most of those guys know this. They are lying about him,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: They are lying. They just it's just so sick. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: then to this bishop lecturing Trump in what supposedly a
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: religious gathering, giving a political lecture. She went on and on,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: here's more, I ask you to.
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: Have mercy, mister President, on those in our communities whose
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: children fear that their parents will be taken away, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: that you help those who are fleeing war zones and
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: to the stranger, for we were all one strangers in
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: this land.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: For Heaven's sake, Ryan, He's not closing the border to
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: children fleeing persecution and war. It's closing the border to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: adults walking across the Rio grande. Is she preaching the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: gospel or abusing her position? And speaking abusing position? Why
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: do so many of the left do exactly that?
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: Exactly Well, what's the best part of that clip that
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: you just played, and in fact of the whole service
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: was the supreme self discipline of the entire Trump team family, JD. Vance,
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: all of them who kept straight faces and just narrowly
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: avoided kind of rolling their eyes and we'll get you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: I'd have been up and out of there. Sorry, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: got you know, sorry, I've got another appointment. Now, I'd
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: have been gone. But no, they stayed. They kept their cool,
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: and you know, you could see JD. Vance was kind
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: of thinking, what is this? So the comedy element far
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: outweighed anything else on that, and I think again, the
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: only people who work walk away demean from that sort
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: of thing is unfortunately the Anglican Church itself for putting
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: such a clown in as bishop. But that's the woke
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: Anglican Church for you these days. And you know, there's
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: nothing wrong with, of course, the church talking to those
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: in power and those at the highest level in the
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: church saying, you know, he's the moral his Jesus teachings
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: and make sure you're ahering to them, et cetera, et cetera.
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: That's the role of the church. But the inauguration to
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: pick a policy and then to go straight in on
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: transgender stuff, which again I don't pretend to be a theologian,
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: but I'm pretty certain that there are aspects of religious
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: teachings that perhaps the lovely fragrant bishop might want to
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: read up again just to reize yourself with certain aspects.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: But even ignoring that part, I mean to misrepresent the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Trump policies, like you know, transgender children now going to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: be a fear of being killed under Donald Trump. I mean,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: give me a break, give me child abuse. But I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: know I agree with you, You're you're right. But to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: one other thing, I mean, there's something serious I want
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: to touch on something I was discussed with the panel,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: a difference. I showed earlier three tech billionaires saying they
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: were investing five hundred billion dollars US in an artificial
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: energy project because one of the reasons apparently Trump making
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: sure there's enough electricity for a start. Okay. Meanwhile, our
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: richest person, Gina Reinhardt, who has been a super patriot,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: we all know that, sponsoring Australian athletes Rah Rah and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Australia all that kind of thing, she is now looking
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for investment opportunities in America, saying she's looking to invest
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: billions because there's a new land of opportunity. After warning
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: for years the government here. Governments here were so anti
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: business that they were forcing companies to go overseas, and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: now you see it even with her. What do you
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: make of.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: This, Andrew?
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: It's heartbreaking. You have someone like Gina Reinhart, who you
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: know pretty much single handedly gave Jane Jim Chalmers his
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: surplus for the last couple of years through her iron
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: Ore and other mining profits and people like that Australia,
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: people like Gena Roinehart. Australia should be cherishing in the
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: same way that Donald Trump is cherishing his billionaires and entrepreneurs,
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: recognizing that we all benefit from their investments and their
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: hard work and the companies they build up. It's heartbreaking
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: to think that here in Australia we are so dumb,
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: so myopic, so stupid that the labor government is turning
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: its back, closing down all our great resource industries, putting
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: the money on these kind of the fake ideas like
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: green hydrogen, windmill, solar panels, all this rubbish, and we
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: are destroying the very prosperity that made this nation so great,
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: to the extent that the billionaires like Gina rein Hart
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: are going hmm, you know, America. That's where the action is,
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: That's where the money is to be made, that's where
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: the investments are guaranteed to return a profit. And Australia
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: increasingly is not living up to that. When you think
• 37:29
  Speaker 11: what we could be, andrew what we could be, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: what people like Gina Reinhart urging us to be, and
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: our governments just so stupidly turns its back on it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely it's just sensational. We have so much oil
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: and gas and uranium and coal, and for some strange
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: reason we're telling us as we can't use any of it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the most.
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: We even don't mind gold. Don't mind gold. If that
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: doesn't tell you how utterly moronic exactly, but we don't.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Want any Goaldine, thanks you to Gold, Thank you very much, Rondin.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: After the break, Tennis Australia falls for a con and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: so refuses to celebrate Australia Day. There's a con that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I think, really we it's a high time we need
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to call it out. Tennis Australia, it's not going to
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: celebrate Australia and Sunday apart from playing the national anthem.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Other than that, no, you know, it's sure. It's got
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: all Abilities Day, and tomorrow is Women's and Girls' Day
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and Friday is Pride Day for no Australia Day because
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Tennis Australia reckons it's too divisive, and sure enough here
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: comes the first People's Assembly talk about divisive. Victoria's version
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: of the voice average alone claim to represent aberages. He's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: only ten percent of whom actually voted for them. For it,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: saying the date must change because the days are reminded
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: of the beginning of colonization, dispossession as systemic oppression. So
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: here's what Santa's Australia doesn't get. If Australia really does
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: represent colonization, dispossession and systemic oppression, there is absolutely no
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: date on the calendar where Australia could ever be celebrated
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: by them or anyone else, which means you either do
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: celebrate it on January twenty sixth, or you never celebrated
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: at any day at all. None. It's an effective boycott
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: for the rest of our lives. And Tennis Australation realized
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: then that if it keeps submitted to this, it is
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: in fact against any celebration of this country at any
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: time it's being played, and so must end the ban,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: joining me 'daniel Wilde, Deputy executive director of These Student
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: of Public Affairs, Gementonnini, founder of GT Communications and columns
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: with Australia, I don't get this. You know, changing the day.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: If you look at the country like Italy, which you
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: love to bits, it's got a pass which you could
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: point so many thingers Mussolini, the way that Romans conquered
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: most of the world and slaughtered people, the genocide of
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the Gauls and things you don't see. There's some shamefaced
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: thing come a national days there? Why here?
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's in fairness, a little bit of
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: a slightly different context there in terms of the Indigenous
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: people of Australia have a completely different story and connection
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: to land. However, to pick up on a point that
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: you had, Andrew, I want to take it a step
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: further and say to Tennis Australia, tennis is an English sport.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: It's a colonial sport. It's the sport of the oppressor.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: The oppressor. So if Tennis Australia is really so shamed
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: about Australia date, it really needs to shut itself down,
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: and tennis itself should be banned because it's really an
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: extrapolation of the tool of the oppressors. I mean, the
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: fact of this stuff, and like did over cricket, anything
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: that speaks to our colonial past, throw it in the bin.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: That's the kind of logic these people work with. And
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  Speaker 5: I think the other thing that is so disappointing about
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  Speaker 5: these flare ups I'm going to call them, is because
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  Speaker 5: they are so divisive. If Tennis Australia is simply celebrated
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Australia Day on January twenty six, as the rest of
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: us will do, no one would bat an Eili. There's
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: never going to be everybody happy. And there are some
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: people I know who elect to go to work on
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Australia Day and with the negotiation of their employer they
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: do that. I have no problem with that. That's called
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: being an adult. It's a person going I have a
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: deeply held belief about this day and as a result,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: I would like to work on this day and you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: take another day in lou that's a completely different matter.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: This is a small cohort of people trying to engineer
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  Speaker 5: something that the rest of the nation doesn't want. And
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: I say that with respect, but I also would point
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: out briefly that it's like, you know, it's like Italians,
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: it's like Indians, it's like any ethnicity. It's not one
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  Speaker 5: homogeneous group of people with one singular view. This group
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: of people does not speak to all to the desires
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: of all Indigenoustralians. And we know that, Andrew, and there's.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: All It's going to be someone that's going to complain,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: and I don't know why we give into them. But
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: speaking of original owners of Italy, I mean, I'm not
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: sure the Sicilians totally agree about that. You know, there
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: are Italians like everyone else. They probably some still have
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: a resentment against Piedmont.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Probably I'm a northern or Andrew, so I don't. I
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: don't consider Sicily.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're a conqueror. That that's the thing. There
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: we go, change the date, Daniel Wild.
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  Speaker 13: Well, here we go again, Andrew. I mean I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 13: the CEO of Tennis Australia, Craig Tiley, should be sacked
• 42:58
  Speaker 13: for this. When are they going to get the message?
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  Speaker 13: We've seen this before. We saw the former or the
• 43:03
  Speaker 13: outgoing CEO of Cricket Australia where he tried to cancel
• 43:07
  Speaker 13: Australia Day at the Gabba Test last year. He's on
• 43:09
  Speaker 13: his way out. The incoming CEO has said no, we're
• 43:12
  Speaker 13: going to back Australia Day.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 43:13
  Speaker 13: We saw it with Brad Banducci at Wilworst. Well he's
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: gone now will Worse supports Australia Day. We've seen it
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: with Australia Venue Co who wanted to ban Australia Day
• 43:22
  Speaker 13: at its pubs. Well they backflipped within twenty four hours.
• 43:25
  Speaker 13: Steven Smith, the High Commissioner to the UK, well, he
• 43:28
  Speaker 13: wanted to cancel Australia Day in his context, and he
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: backflipped within twenty four hours. So you know, one of
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: these activists and the inner city elites going to get
• 43:36
  Speaker 13: the message. You were called Tennis Australia, it's in your name,
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: support our National Day. They're happy to take. They took
• 43:44
  Speaker 13: one hundred million dollars of taxpayer funds as a bailout
• 43:48
  Speaker 13: during COVID of Australian taxpayers and then they turn around
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: and do this, try to cancel our National Day. They
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: need to get a grip and understand that Australian has
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: had a gupful of this. If you're going to take
• 43:58
  Speaker 13: taxpayer funds, if you're to have Australia in your name,
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: if you're going to trade on the currency of our nation,
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: you better support our National Day or you're going to
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: be out the door quick.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Meanwhile, the Trump Revolution continues. Jemma, is just I
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: like this? This is sure Trump's style has ordered all
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: federal agencies to effectively dump the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion staff.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And isn't that a massive industry now put every single
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: one of them on paid administrative leave as of five
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: pm today US time. Is that something we need to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: do here?
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a pretty Trumpian move, isn't it in terms
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: of go hard or go home. Look, I think the
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: old taking a step back, the old statement about where
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: America goes, the world follows is true. I do believe
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: the pendulum hug has swung away from this obsession with
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: the color of skin and a person's sexuality or gender
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: identity and all of those things. I've been an employer
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: for nearly twenty two years, Andrew, and have done my
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: best to employ on merit and in the industry that
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: I'm in, I find it very difficult to get blokes
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: to work. So I have a majority of women in
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: my team and it's been that way since day one,
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: simply because of the talent pool available, and you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: Heaven helped me if I had to fill a fifty
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: percent male quota. I think this stream, as you say
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: it is an industry, is so out of touch with
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: everyday Australians and clearly every day Americans because they voted
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: for him. But it's out of touch with what everyday Australians.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: I think value as part of our broader values set,
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: and that is live your life in peace, but don't
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: impose your values on me, and higher on merit. Everybody
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: gets a fair go, everybody gets the same opportunity. The
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: outcomes are dependent on talent and hard work and a
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: whole variety of things in the melting pot. But this
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: obsession with well, you know, are you a woman? Are
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: you a person of color?
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Are you this? Are you that?
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: Are you?
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: It is?
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: It is a merry road to know where good and
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: the proof has been in the pudding.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: There beautifully, said Daniel. It reminds me of the scene
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a beautiful chapter in Hitchhuckers go to the Galaxy Douglas
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Adams What If Trump, one of Musk's favorite books, where
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: they collect a rocket that say, you're going to create
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: a new civilization. We want people who clean the hygienus,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: who clean the telephones and all these people and you
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: know hr people and now I guess a diversity inequity.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Fire him in a rocket and no one cares that
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: they don't come back. Is that what we need? Yeah?
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: It's not about analogy, is it? And I think the
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: gem is spot on. Anyone who actually interacts with the
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: real world and runs a business or a small business
• 46:45
  Speaker 13: knows that your first task is to find the best
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: working for the job. I mean, that's just common sense.
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: And I think you know, people and Australians and those
• 46:52
  Speaker 13: in the Western world are just so thoroughly over this.
• 46:55
  Speaker 13: The people might call it reverse discrimination or positive discrimination.
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: I've never run those terms because there's nothing positive about
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: discrimination at all, no matter which way it's going. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 13: people are over it that it's one of the best
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: person for the job, no matter what area of life
• 47:08
  Speaker 13: it's in. And I think the timing is right to,
• 47:11
  Speaker 13: you know, put a sword to all of this woke
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: nonsense and just get on with the job of finding
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: the right people. And you know, I think Trump is
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: speaking for the millions of people that voted for change.
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: You know, people want change, and they're going to get
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: a lot of change, and they're going to get it
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: very very fast.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's so stunning what we're seeing already,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Jemma and Daniel, it's just unbelievable. Gemnton Any Daniel Wilde,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: thank you very much both for your term. Viewer Bruce
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: points out something that he heard that I missed. Here's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: our prime Minister's saying, well, listen, we've you know, we
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: really do want to send our best people to Auschwitz,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: to the concentration camp to We're not anti Jewish, we're
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: really on board. And he can't pronounce the word Auschwitz.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to see if you were at
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Bruce is right.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: The person leading the delegation to Oschwitz is our foreign minister,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: It's not as Schwitz Oschwitz or whatever you said, promises Auschwitz.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: That's it from me, and I want to thank all
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the people that gave me their sympathy last night about
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: my dog, really really appreciated. Thank you so much. That's
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: it from me. Sherry Maxon up next. Thank you