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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Oh that's you.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:20Speaker 3: All right, everybody, this is Danielle and Tar Productions and
- 0:24Speaker 3: I Art Radio Production and we are here with another episode.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I am all in.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Good job, thank you.
- 0:32Speaker 3: It's weird about Scott and Amy and Suzanne.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Scott introducing it exactly.
- 0:39Speaker 3: So if you guys are wondering what the heck is happening,
- 0:43Speaker 3: Tara and I had a little bit of fomo and
- 0:48Speaker 3: we felt that we're gonna jump in and do our
- 0:50Speaker 3: own little mini mini mini recap. Obviously you heard Susanne,
- 0:55Speaker 3: Amy and Scott do their thing the other day, but
- 1:00Speaker 3: we were on vacation when unfortunately they recorded. So we have
- 1:04Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts and we wanted to give them
- 1:06Speaker 3: to you.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:08Speaker 3: So with that being said, we're not going to go
- 1:11Speaker 3: into a full recap, but we're we're going to talk
- 1:15Speaker 3: about the big four storylines of this episode, which is
- 1:20Speaker 3: obviously Winter, and just dive into our thoughts on those.
- 1:25Speaker 3: So just to kind of give you a glimpse as
- 1:29Speaker 3: to what's to come, We're gonna talk about Rory and
- 1:32Speaker 3: Lane in Paris. We're gonna talk about Laura and Luke,
- 1:35Speaker 3: Emily and Laura Lai and then Rory and Logan, in
- 1:39Speaker 3: which I have a lot of thoughts about.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Yeah, question, I had like one note for you.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well let's we'll save that one. I
- 1:47Speaker 3: first want to talk about Rory and Lane slash Paris.
- 1:53Speaker 3: Obviously those were her BFFs from the series. Was it
- 1:58Speaker 3: just me that, like it was so weak, weird having
- 2:06Speaker 3: Rory just run into Paris and run into Lane and
- 2:10Speaker 3: just be like, hey, what's up, Oh, you're in town,
- 2:12Speaker 3: and just like I don't know, I felt like they
- 2:16Speaker 3: were not friends anymore yet at the end of the episode,
- 2:19Speaker 3: she was like, it's okay, I'll just crash at Lane's
- 2:21Speaker 3: or I'll just crash at Paris's.
- 2:23Speaker 1: And it's like, the one line that threw me off
- 2:25Speaker 1: was wait, do you remember Paris? Right? I'm like, all
- 2:28Speaker 1: these years, how can I literally rewound it? Because I
- 2:31Speaker 1: was like, there's no way she just said that, like
- 2:34Speaker 1: Paris was there since what episode or when she goes
- 2:37Speaker 1: to Chilton all the way until the end, and how
- 2:40Speaker 1: would Lane forget Paris? Okay, anyone forget Paris?
- 2:45Speaker 3: And even I think it was Paris. That was telling.
- 2:48Speaker 3: When Lorelai and Luke, which we'll get into it, went
- 2:51Speaker 3: to her office and they were talking about how Paris
- 2:55Speaker 3: said something along the lines of, oh, you know that Rory,
- 2:59Speaker 3: it's hard to get hold of her touch or something
- 3:02Speaker 3: like that, and it just kind of made me really sad.
- 3:05Speaker 3: It just you know, you want it. You want them
- 3:08Speaker 3: to be such close friends and stay close friends. And
- 3:12Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, my best friend
- 3:16Speaker 3: from high school we keep in touch every once in
- 3:18Speaker 3: a while, but if I ran into her at a
- 3:21Speaker 3: market at home, I would be screaming.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you know no, I'm the
- 3:28Speaker 1: same way. I have like my three really good friends
- 3:30Speaker 1: from high school and we talk like very couple months.
- 3:33Speaker 1: But like you pick back up. It's not like you're like,
- 3:36Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I mean, like those
- 3:38Speaker 1: old friends where there's it's like time doesn't matter.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt really disingenuous, I get or disingenuine. Yeah,
- 3:50Speaker 3: But I I want to talk about Lane, and I
- 3:53Speaker 3: also want to talk about Paris and what your initial
- 3:56Speaker 3: thoughts are. How did you feel about Lane and where
- 3:59Speaker 3: she's at right now.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I wasn't really surprised. I feel like her storyline. I
- 4:03Speaker 1: just felt like the way the series ended, I didn't
- 4:06Speaker 1: know if Laane would have like more of a career
- 4:11Speaker 1: than than what she had and having her kids. So
- 4:15Speaker 1: I think Lane eight years later still like the boys
- 4:18Speaker 1: grew up, Like it just made sense to me. I
- 4:21Speaker 1: didn't really think, but I like that the bands came back,
- 4:23Speaker 1: Like I thought that was cool, and the boys like
- 4:25Speaker 1: helping like around the house and setting up the equipment
- 4:27Speaker 1: and stuff.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, I kind of. I mean
- 4:32Speaker 3: it was to be expected, idn't YEH didn't like, Yeah,
- 4:35Speaker 3: that's where Laane's at, That's what's going on. I did
- 4:39Speaker 3: like the band getting back together. I thought that was
- 4:42Speaker 3: that was cool.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Did you think that she would have had a different
- 4:45Speaker 1: career or had had a different life eight years later?
- 4:50Speaker 3: No, this was like that was where I thought she
- 4:52Speaker 3: was going to be. Yeah, Paris, I I always knew
- 4:57Speaker 3: she was going to be a doctor. You know obviously
- 4:59Speaker 3: from this series that tracked really well from me. But
- 5:03Speaker 3: did we all did you know she would get into
- 5:05Speaker 3: like fertility?
- 5:06Speaker 2: Well?
- 5:07Speaker 1: I know, but I think, like this is twenty sixteen,
- 5:11Speaker 1: so I feel like talking about fertility became more a
- 5:16Speaker 1: little bit more of a norm and I think, like
- 5:19Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't really know before that
- 5:21Speaker 1: how much research was done with fertility and how much
- 5:27Speaker 1: you know, know what I mean, Like, I don't know, yeah,
- 5:29Speaker 1: the progress of it. But she always seemed like someone
- 5:31Speaker 1: whould be like into like the new medicine. So I
- 5:34Speaker 1: wasn't that shocked.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's it's perfect for her. And and
- 5:40Speaker 3: even just how she was talking about fertility, being like
- 5:44Speaker 3: here are the candidate, you know, like she was just
- 5:46Speaker 3: so pierised. Yeah, And it was probably the one character
- 5:52Speaker 3: of this first installment of the movies that was so
- 5:58Speaker 3: like when I when I was watching, She'm like, ah,
- 6:01Speaker 3: there she is. There, she is, like, we're good, Paris
- 6:03Speaker 3: is back. You know. It's the one character character for
- 6:06Speaker 3: me that made sense this this movie. I felt like
- 6:12Speaker 3: everyone else was just off, Like Rory was off with
- 6:17Speaker 3: the whole logan stuff. Luke and Lorelai were weird, and
- 6:21Speaker 3: also like we'll get into their storyline in a little bit,
- 6:24Speaker 3: Emily was wearing jeans, and we didn't even have Richard
- 6:28Speaker 3: obviously he passed away, which is the saddest thing ever,
- 6:31Speaker 3: Like in real life he passed away, which was, yeah,
- 6:37Speaker 3: watching it now is so so.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it was you took you kind of took it
- 6:42Speaker 1: personally those scenes, Yeah, totally.
- 6:45Speaker 3: We'll get into that in a little bit. But but
- 6:48Speaker 3: really Paris was kind of the only character for me
- 6:51Speaker 3: that tracked, and.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think with Paris, like I didn't
- 6:56Speaker 1: really need a history of what she did over the
- 6:59Speaker 1: last years. Like I kind of like that you just
- 7:02Speaker 1: were like, all right, well, this is her job, and
- 7:04Speaker 1: god knows what she did in between those years. But
- 7:06Speaker 1: here we are. When I feel like for Lorelei and
- 7:10Speaker 1: Luke specifically, and also Rory's life, it was kind of
- 7:14Speaker 1: like you're trying to fill in the gaps, do you
- 7:18Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? And Paris's role just like nailed it, Like, Okay,
- 7:23Speaker 1: here she is.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on to Laura, Li and Luke though,
- 7:27Speaker 3: because there's a lot of too unpack there with you know,
- 7:31Speaker 3: the whole storyline. The one thing I will just to
- 7:33Speaker 3: start off this conversation just point out I thought that
- 7:39Speaker 3: what Emily said that basically their whole relationship was on
- 7:44Speaker 3: lauralized terms, and I wants in a Lorelai it's Lorelei's show.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:53Speaker 3: I thought that was really impactful because there's a lot
- 7:55Speaker 3: of truth behind that. It is laurel I's show. It
- 7:59Speaker 3: is the world does revolve around her, and especially in
- 8:03Speaker 3: that relationship. So Emily kind of confronting Laurelai with that
- 8:08Speaker 3: tidbit I thought when I when she said it, I
- 8:12Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, that is like a gebel but
- 8:16Speaker 3: you're one hundred percent right.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, I mean she kind of steers that ship.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean Emily was not wrong and what
- 8:26Speaker 3: she had to say, but I did find it kind
- 8:30Speaker 3: of interesting that that made Laura Lie spin into this hole.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Oh well, I gotta give Luke a biological child that
- 8:41Speaker 3: he that he has had since birth, which does look
- 8:48Speaker 3: do I get it that she I think she was
- 8:52Speaker 3: doing it more for her to say, I don't want
- 8:55Speaker 3: to hold you back from doing this, so like I
- 8:57Speaker 3: don't want to tell my conscious that you don't. Yeah,
- 9:00Speaker 3: I don't want to have it on my conscious that
- 9:02Speaker 3: you don't have a biological child from you know, birth
- 9:07Speaker 3: because of me. I think it was more of there
- 9:09Speaker 3: was a little self serving like motives behind that.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that also with seeing and this
- 9:19Speaker 1: is kind of a stretch, but I just thought of
- 9:21Speaker 1: it with you know, Rory's out of the house, and
- 9:25Speaker 1: if you think about for Emily, like she's now alone alone,
- 9:28Speaker 1: do you think this was laurlized thinking of if God
- 9:32Speaker 1: forbid something happens to Luke, Rory's gone, I have someone else,
- 9:37Speaker 1: like kind of like empty nester. But she's probably thinking
- 9:40Speaker 1: of like like, I don't know.
- 9:42Speaker 3: It's probably a stretch, but I don't think so. I
- 9:45Speaker 3: don't think so. I just to be completely honest with
- 9:48Speaker 3: you and with this whole Lorlied Luke storyline, I did
- 9:52Speaker 3: really feel for Luke a lot. And the reason being
- 9:56Speaker 3: is Lorelai came to him with this right, which, look,
- 10:01Speaker 3: I get it, like if somebody told me that I
- 10:03Speaker 3: was holding my husband back from certain things, it would
- 10:05Speaker 3: make me really reevaluate a lot of things that I
- 10:07Speaker 3: was doing, and you know I would, I would want
- 10:12Speaker 3: better for him and us. And so I understand her
- 10:16Speaker 3: going to Luke and saying, hey, like, are you sure
- 10:20Speaker 3: you don't want a kid? Like Luke's response back, in
- 10:25Speaker 3: my opinion, should have been enough for her. He does
- 10:28Speaker 3: have a biological child, April is his biological child. Granted, yes,
- 10:33Speaker 3: she did not come into his life for the baby years, right,
- 10:38Speaker 3: But he has a really strong connection with her now
- 10:42Speaker 3: and is really fostering that relationship and is her dad, right,
- 10:48Speaker 3: So like he sees that as his kid. He also
- 10:52Speaker 3: sees Rory as his kid, and he said that, and
- 10:54Speaker 3: he's been there for Rory for all those years. And
- 10:57Speaker 3: I know it's different when you know you're actually their
- 11:02Speaker 3: parent or their step parent. At the time, he wasn't that, right,
- 11:07Speaker 3: he was a Louralave's friend or you know, part of
- 11:10Speaker 3: the town that saw her grow up. But in he
- 11:13Speaker 3: said he considers her his kid too. So it's like
- 11:18Speaker 3: he's not childless. He has two children, and he's happy
- 11:22Speaker 3: with that and he loves them and he's fulfilled by that. Now. Granted,
- 11:27Speaker 3: like I'm sure would he have wanted a kid, of
- 11:29Speaker 3: course maybe he you know, he did say that, right,
- 11:32Speaker 3: But it's he's saying he's happy with what he has.
- 11:37Speaker 3: And I wish she kind of listened to that instead
- 11:40Speaker 3: of like trying to.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Just push it on him.
- 11:43Speaker 3: This whole storyline about him having a page.
- 11:47Speaker 1: You did it shock you that they weren't married? But
- 11:50Speaker 1: they're not married.
- 11:51Speaker 3: I didn't even think that. Yeah, I literally didn't even
- 11:55Speaker 3: think about that in my head they're married. They're not married.
- 11:57Speaker 1: No, they're not married. I completely forgot actually yes and no.
- 12:00Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've seen these, but like, yeah,
- 12:03Speaker 1: did you think they would be married?
- 12:05Speaker 3: I don't know why, And I like, maybe this is
- 12:08Speaker 3: I just totally missed it. I thought they were married,
- 12:12Speaker 3: but they're not.
- 12:13Speaker 1: No, they're not.
- 12:14Speaker 3: Oh, oh my goodness.
- 12:15Speaker 1: That is hilarious. So they were just I think they've
- 12:17Speaker 1: been together for eight years and yeah, basically married, but
- 12:20Speaker 1: they're not legally married. But I wonder if that's also
- 12:24Speaker 1: with Loralai dealing with the divorce, you know, and Luke
- 12:31Speaker 1: dealing with his divorce. Like, I get it. There's a
- 12:33Speaker 1: lot of times when people don't like they've been through
- 12:36Speaker 1: their marriage and they're.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Like, we're just happy together. Yeah, it's happy together. We
- 12:40Speaker 3: don't need the paperwork. Yeah. But yeah, it was kind
- 12:43Speaker 3: of you know, it was very sweet to see Luke
- 12:47Speaker 3: so like, it's so happy to be where he is.
- 12:50Speaker 3: He has his girl, right, he has Lauraai. He's with
- 12:54Speaker 3: Laura LIAI happy about that. And he has his quote
- 12:58Speaker 3: unquote two children that.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has a diner. Everything's going well and
- 13:03Speaker 1: he loves that town, so.
- 13:05Speaker 3: He loves he is so happy where everything's looking up
- 13:09Speaker 3: for Luke.
- 13:10Speaker 1: I love the bit where he just kept giving people
- 13:12Speaker 1: the wrong WiFi password.
- 13:14Speaker 3: I know it's so good. It's so good.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Omen's like capital B like.
- 13:18Speaker 3: What but but yeah, So, I mean I hated this
- 13:22Speaker 3: whole kids storyline thing, and because it's it's pushing something.
- 13:28Speaker 3: It's like Emily told Laura li I, like, don't stop
- 13:33Speaker 3: Luke or you know, you're you stop Luke from doing
- 13:35Speaker 3: all the things he's whatever. Yeah, yeah, and then she
- 13:38Speaker 3: took that Obviously personally.
- 13:41Speaker 1: It's kind of always been LAURAAI though.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Yeah, it's she's very self serving in this. She wants
- 13:46Speaker 3: to give wants to do this whole kid thing so
- 13:48Speaker 3: she doesn't feel bad about herself for not giving him
- 13:50Speaker 3: a kid. That's like literally what I took from it.
- 13:53Speaker 3: I know that's like really dark of me, but it's
- 13:55Speaker 3: kind of like and maybe she's just doing another goodness
- 13:58Speaker 3: of her heart to make sure or that Luke doesn't
- 14:00Speaker 3: have regrets. But I think a little bit of it
- 14:03Speaker 3: has to do with her feeling guilty, yeah, not giving
- 14:06Speaker 3: that to him, and she doesn't want to feel that
- 14:08Speaker 3: guilt yeah.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I don't like that storyline,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I kind of liked that we got Paris in that.
- 14:13Speaker 1: That's the only thing I liked from it. Yeah, so
- 14:16Speaker 1: it kind of balanced out for me, like I got
- 14:19Speaker 1: Paris's wackiness out of it because it kind of shut
- 14:23Speaker 1: down the idea pretty quickly too.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Yeah. Can we talk about their red silk sheets? Lorele
- 14:41Speaker 3: and Luke have red silk sheets. I would have never
- 14:46Speaker 3: I cannot get that picture out of my head again,
- 14:50Speaker 3: like dogs pagallas sheets. Oh my god.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder who decided on that, Like I don't
- 15:00Speaker 1: but that is like I.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Feel like sad sheets. I don't know, like the red silk.
- 15:07Speaker 1: That's more Laura I and Luke's more of the plaid
- 15:10Speaker 1: sheet person.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Maybe it's just it was just weird.
- 15:17Speaker 1: This is so weird. But speaking this is a little
- 15:19Speaker 1: off topic, but speaking of like noticing things, did you
- 15:22Speaker 1: notice when Rory goes to the grocery store, there's an
- 15:25Speaker 1: entire like freezer of pizza bytes, like top to bottom,
- 15:30Speaker 1: it's just it's all. It's like, there's nothing else in
- 15:34Speaker 1: that freezer but pizza bytes. And then to the right
- 15:36Speaker 1: is all dryers ice cream.
- 15:37Speaker 3: I mean, that's my type of store.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I looked over and I was like, pizza, bye pizza,
- 15:41Speaker 1: and like all sizes. It was really funny. I don't
- 15:43Speaker 1: know why I caught my eye.
- 15:44Speaker 3: That's hilarious. You're gonna we have to screenshot that toast
- 15:47Speaker 3: it funny. All right, Well, I mean, let's move on
- 15:51Speaker 3: to Lorlai.
- 15:54Speaker 1: What did you think of? Okay, I'm gonna ask you,
- 15:56Speaker 1: what did you think of what happened at the funeral? Oh?
- 16:02Speaker 1: Good lord?
- 16:04Speaker 4: I mean Lorli I just like she'll never so bad.
- 16:10Speaker 4: That was so bad, like so bad.
- 16:15Speaker 1: And I don't think like what bugged me about it
- 16:17Speaker 1: was that she took being drunk as an excuse, like
- 16:21Speaker 1: you couldn't just say like like like Emily said, my
- 16:23Speaker 1: dad bought me a doll and it made me happy,
- 16:25Speaker 1: like just make up.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it was so bad, and like, yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 3: we can all just sit here and speculate like why
- 16:33Speaker 3: didn't she just say, oh I love my dad, you know,
- 16:37Speaker 3: or whatever, like why didn't she do the right thing?
- 16:39Speaker 3: But I also think there is a lot and I'm
- 16:42Speaker 3: not giving her an excuse at all, because was she
- 16:45Speaker 3: I thought it was so bad, But I think it
- 16:49Speaker 3: just Richard was the one thing that held the entire
- 16:54Speaker 3: family together, like truly, he was the one thing that
- 16:57Speaker 3: he was the bad black pone of the family. And
- 17:01Speaker 3: I think a big reason as to why even Richard
- 17:05Speaker 3: and Emily came back into Laurli's life was not only
- 17:10Speaker 3: because of Rory, but also because of Richard. And I
- 17:14Speaker 3: don't think without Richard, even with Rory, I don't think
- 17:18Speaker 3: that Emily and Laura I would have a relationship right now.
- 17:22Speaker 3: So I think a lot of it. And we all
- 17:25Speaker 3: know how much Laura I loves her dad. We know that, Yeah,
- 17:29Speaker 3: and she had a really special bond with him, so
- 17:33Speaker 3: we all know that she has so much love for him.
- 17:37Speaker 3: I think in that moment, all of this bubbled up,
- 17:43Speaker 3: like complexity she had in her childhood and like all
- 17:48Speaker 3: this trauma and you know, negative association she had of
- 17:54Speaker 3: her parents just got the best of her and resurfaced
- 17:58Speaker 3: during this like traumatic time in her life. I don't know,
- 18:03Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't believe she did that and
- 18:06Speaker 3: it was so bad, But I also think that is
- 18:11Speaker 3: a person who is hurting really badly, like reliving some
- 18:18Speaker 3: trauma that she had.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Yeah, the line where I think it's when they're arguing
- 18:23Speaker 1: in the kitchen and she's like, I just lost my
- 18:26Speaker 1: husband and she's like, well, I just lost my dad.
- 18:28Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, that's like I think that's when
- 18:31Speaker 1: it all kind of came around of yes, Emily's hurting,
- 18:35Speaker 1: but like Laura doesn't really show she's always hurting. Like
- 18:38Speaker 1: she walked around the party talking to like Jason styles, like,
- 18:41Speaker 1: you know, she kind of held it together, made sure
- 18:43Speaker 1: that Rory was home. She told Luke She'll say, you
- 18:45Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like she tried to keep it together.
- 18:47Speaker 1: And I think in that moment, that conversation when she
- 18:49Speaker 1: said I lost my dad, I was like, yeah, she
- 18:52Speaker 1: she just fell apart during that that during that that
- 18:59Speaker 1: end of the night with the other guys and Emily.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also do think that mine is very
- 19:06Speaker 3: easy to talk about how crazy her parents are, right,
- 19:10Speaker 3: and like, oh, yeah, of course they're going to manipulate
- 19:13Speaker 3: you to do this. Of course they're going to manipulate
- 19:15Speaker 3: you to do that. Of course they're going to pay
- 19:18Speaker 3: for your tuition so that you can do Friday night dinner.
- 19:20Speaker 3: Like she is the first one to point out their
- 19:22Speaker 3: flaws and also the first one to point out how
- 19:25Speaker 3: manipula manipulative they can be. And and you know of
- 19:32Speaker 3: the Gilmore you know, holding the Gilmore name up and
- 19:36Speaker 3: all the negative things that come along with it. And
- 19:40Speaker 3: so but she's but she's not quick to say I
- 19:44Speaker 3: love my mom because of this, I love my dad
- 19:46Speaker 3: because of this. Like that that does not come naturally
- 19:49Speaker 3: to her. No, So I think her first like gut
- 19:53Speaker 3: instinct is to go for negative. Yeah, right, Like those
- 19:56Speaker 3: are the stories she talks about often and can talk
- 19:59Speaker 3: about off didn't and has no problem bringing up. That
- 20:02Speaker 3: is how she talks about her parents is all the crazy.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Shit that they do and looking at them.
- 20:07Speaker 3: And yeah, and also like how awful they are, you know,
- 20:12Speaker 3: Like that's her first thing that she can that she
- 20:14Speaker 3: resorts to. So I think when she was put on
- 20:16Speaker 3: the spot she's not good at like showing her emotions
- 20:23Speaker 3: and like showing her love, especially for her parents, that
- 20:29Speaker 3: she resorted to her humor yeah, quote unquote to deflect
- 20:37Speaker 3: from her actual hurt. Does that make sense?
- 20:40Speaker 1: Yeah? And I when she was bugging Emily about the portrait,
- 20:45Speaker 1: I was like, just leave her alone, like it's okay
- 20:48Speaker 1: if she messed up the side. It was like a
- 20:50Speaker 1: great bit because that was a giant portrait, but it
- 20:54Speaker 1: was like, stop, stop taking it out on her, like
- 20:57Speaker 1: she's clearly going through it. But then we needed that
- 21:00Speaker 1: to get the history of what happened at the funeral.
- 21:03Speaker 3: I will say I did feel for the real life
- 21:07Speaker 3: Lauren Kelly and Alexis during those scenes like that cannot
- 21:12Speaker 3: That must have been so hard to do those scenes
- 21:16Speaker 3: and know that you're cast me is no longer there,
- 21:20Speaker 3: but you're and you are acknowledging that they're no longer there,
- 21:24Speaker 3: but it's still not Yeah, I'm sure that was not easy.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I mean all the way down to the dinner table
- 21:30Speaker 1: and no one can sit in Richard's seat, and I
- 21:34Speaker 1: understand that that was always his seat, the head of
- 21:36Speaker 1: the other the other end of the table.
- 21:39Speaker 3: What did you think when Luke tried to sit there
- 21:43Speaker 3: and then obviously realized that's the wrong seat but was
- 21:47Speaker 3: just standing in.
- 21:48Speaker 1: The Yeah, Like I think the kirkbit was was funny,
- 21:53Speaker 1: but I was like, she literally had no.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Idea who Kirk was, you know, like, but you're talking
- 21:59Speaker 3: about Emily, and but she still let him sit there.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just like just someone to pull up
- 22:04Speaker 1: a chair and like have him.
- 22:05Speaker 3: It was just that was louralize that like, Lordal, I
- 22:08Speaker 3: don't know that's true. She needs to stand up and
- 22:10Speaker 3: be like Kirk, get the hell out of here. My
- 22:12Speaker 3: husband's not husband. My boyfriend's sitting down at the table.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Or if she's gonna let him sit there, be like babe,
- 22:19Speaker 3: sit here, I'll sit on your lap, like you know
- 22:21Speaker 3: what I mean. Don't let your husband stand over there
- 22:24Speaker 3: in the corner and humiliation with not having it. I
- 22:27Speaker 3: keep calling him her husband and he's not her husband.
- 22:30Speaker 3: Sorry guys, but her don't you know, let Luke just
- 22:33Speaker 3: sit in the corner or stand in the corner and
- 22:35Speaker 3: humiliation trying to eat his food. Yeah, and you just
- 22:38Speaker 3: sitting down and letting it happen.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Like he's already like uncomfortable as it is, like just
- 22:43Speaker 1: let him get.
- 22:44Speaker 3: A seat, dudem My husband would have been like peace out,
- 22:48Speaker 3: I'm out of here, like oh god, Lorlai loralai, lorli lie.
- 22:53Speaker 3: She really bummed me out this episode. She was quite annoying.
- 22:57Speaker 1: But I know you brought up earlier. But Emma Jeans
- 23:01Speaker 1: might have been with also the candies shirt.
- 23:05Speaker 3: I want to hang out with Emily and Jean jeans.
- 23:08Speaker 3: That's all I want to do.
- 23:09Speaker 1: I just want to.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Hang out with Emily and jeans so bad.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I literally googled Candies. I was like, is this bran
- 23:15Speaker 1: still alive? Alive? And well we all.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Had that shirt? All, yeah, we all had that shirt.
- 23:21Speaker 3: We all had that those jeans. I think, like, I
- 23:27Speaker 3: low key and am Emily and jeans, Like I think
- 23:30Speaker 3: that is who I am to my core. I mean
- 23:34Speaker 3: even just like the organizing of our house and the
- 23:36Speaker 3: Marie condoing.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Oh did you love the marine condo stuff?
- 23:40Speaker 3: Because I did that.
- 23:41Speaker 1: I was gonna say to choose you that one.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Hundred percent, Like does this pen bring me joy? Yes,
- 23:45Speaker 3: I'm keeping it on my desk.
- 23:47Speaker 1: The way she looked at the dress and she's like,
- 23:50Speaker 1: bring me joy?
- 23:52Speaker 4: I say what you all will.
- 23:55Speaker 3: With Emily bean Villain the show, she is my favorite character.
- 23:58Speaker 1: And I didn't really mind all of the people in
- 24:01Speaker 1: the home because at that point she was like, I
- 24:03Speaker 1: don't know how to be alone, so the kids running
- 24:06Speaker 1: around and the gardener and the pool man and like
- 24:09Speaker 1: it was so chaotic. But I kind of liked it.
- 24:13Speaker 3: I agree, I loved everything about it.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what about the end when she's going
- 24:20Speaker 1: to therapy and oh.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Okay that I thought you were gonna talk about the
- 24:24Speaker 3: last storyline we were going to talk about. Oh the therapy.
- 24:29Speaker 3: I love it. I'm here for it. I want to
- 24:31Speaker 3: see Emily and Lorelai and therapy together.
- 24:35Speaker 1: The way she roped her in though, and I know
- 24:38Speaker 1: it was just like hello, like did you not realize?
- 24:41Speaker 3: But honestly like good because they need it.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do.
- 24:45Speaker 3: If Emily's got a trick her into going to therapy,
- 24:49Speaker 3: I'm I'm all for it.
- 24:51Speaker 1: But the line where Emily was like, oh, like I
- 24:55Speaker 1: can't remember where she messed while she's like, oh they
- 24:56Speaker 1: had a therapist, there's schizophrenic, and then I was like,
- 24:59Speaker 1: oh okay, like goold or something like. I was like,
- 25:02Speaker 1: oh my god, you're totally just like the comments you
- 25:06Speaker 1: make about your mom. I know, I know, backhandedly.
- 25:18Speaker 3: The last big pillar of this. Okay, and we're gonna
- 25:23Speaker 3: I mean, I there Obviously there's so much of that
- 25:26Speaker 3: happened in this movie of the hour and a half long.
- 25:32Speaker 3: We just don't want to repeat a lot of what
- 25:34Speaker 3: you are, what Scott, Susanna and He already recap, So
- 25:36Speaker 3: we're just going through our highlights So the last highlight
- 25:40Speaker 3: of this episode and the last pillar is Rory and.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Logan, which I have to ask when when Rory had
- 25:48Speaker 1: that like three minute monologue just sitting on a couch talking,
- 25:51Speaker 1: who did you think was in that apartment? Did you
- 25:54Speaker 1: know it was Logan?
- 25:56Speaker 3: I I I had a feeling it was Logan m
- 26:02Speaker 3: because of the style of the apartment, like, uh sure,
- 26:07Speaker 3: I was like this is very like not modern, but
- 26:10Speaker 3: you know, like toity toity, like this is Dean's houses,
- 26:14Speaker 3: isn't Jess's like guys elevated and like, you know, cool
- 26:20Speaker 3: and sophisticated. So when I saw Logan, I was like
- 26:23Speaker 3: ding ding ding. Of course, with Logan, I did not
- 26:26Speaker 3: expect him to be the first boyfriend we saw though.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Oh really okay, yeah I didn't.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be Jess. Like I don't
- 26:33Speaker 3: know why I thought. I thought Jess would be the
- 26:36Speaker 3: first boyfriend that we saw in the movies, so.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Like there was a Jess mentioned earlier at the diner,
- 26:41Speaker 1: so maybe that's why too.
- 26:43Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, prior to even seeing this episode,
- 26:46Speaker 3: I thought we would see Jess first. Got it like
- 26:48Speaker 3: with something with Luke, you know, like I was like,
- 26:51Speaker 3: oh there. I don't know. I just thought we would
- 26:53Speaker 3: get jess yirs. I didn't expect Logan to be the first,
- 26:57Speaker 3: but I hated it.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Yeah. See, this is why I think and this is
- 27:05Speaker 1: my take. I'm team jess.
- 27:08Speaker 2: All the way.
- 27:08Speaker 3: I know why people hate Logan.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Yes, that's the thing is I think that the movies
- 27:15Speaker 1: the revival change people's thought on Logan a little bit,
- 27:18Speaker 1: because at the end of the end of the show,
- 27:20Speaker 1: you were like, well, they're not together. But like, I
- 27:22Speaker 1: don't hate him.
- 27:23Speaker 3: I loved him. I thought he was great, but.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Then going into this, You're like, I don't know if
- 27:28Speaker 1: I like him much.
- 27:29Speaker 3: But also I hate Rory more than I hate Logan. True,
- 27:34Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like true, she's the one
- 27:37Speaker 3: that has the boyfriend one although she like the fact
- 27:40Speaker 3: that you have a boyfriend that you don't remember is
- 27:43Speaker 3: your boyfriend is?
- 27:45Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 27:45Speaker 1: An heard, and I know that Scott, Susanne and Amy
- 27:49Speaker 1: talked about this, but that was hands down the worst
- 27:51Speaker 1: storyline of this. Like I was like, we could have
- 27:55Speaker 1: done without this, Like you really don't remember a guy
- 27:57Speaker 1: who've been with for two years?
- 27:58Speaker 3: Two years? Two years in two years?
- 28:02Speaker 1: Poor boy?
- 28:03Speaker 3: Like seriously, ill. I hated all of it. I'm like,
- 28:09Speaker 3: I don't like that she has a boyfriend. I don't
- 28:11Speaker 3: like that she doesn't want to have a boyfriend and
- 28:13Speaker 3: keeps saying I need a break up with Paul, doesn't
- 28:17Speaker 3: break up with Paul, goes to London, right, they're in London.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Yeah, And she tells Laura that she's saying with someone
- 28:24Speaker 1: named Dedie every time she's there.
- 28:26Speaker 3: No, it's just the shady mcshaterson is so bad, like
- 28:32Speaker 3: she Laura, I mean, Rory.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Is just Yeah, she's lost for sure.
- 28:39Speaker 3: She's lost. She doesn't keep in touch with her friends.
- 28:41Speaker 3: She doesn't tell her friends that she's even going to
- 28:45Speaker 3: see like in town. Like the fact that she went
- 28:49Speaker 3: back to start Hollow doesn't tell Lane mm hmm. But
- 28:52Speaker 3: that's her best friend is weird. And the fact that
- 28:56Speaker 3: she's like cheating on this boyfriend that she doesn't even
- 28:59Speaker 3: want to have with Logan And it's just like what
- 29:02Speaker 3: happens in this apartment stays in this apartment. It's just like, nah,
- 29:07Speaker 3: I can't with her.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like totally I mean I don't remember
- 29:11Speaker 1: right now, like what he's doing, but he's like successful.
- 29:13Speaker 1: He's bringing a tie on going to work, like he's
- 29:16Speaker 1: going about his life and she's still stuck like in that.
- 29:19Speaker 3: And this is eight years later, eight years later, and
- 29:22Speaker 3: we are it like Rory's worse.
- 29:26Speaker 1: And I wouldn't. I actually would have appreciated if, like,
- 29:29Speaker 1: like right after college she had this amazing career or whatever,
- 29:33Speaker 1: and then she got like laid off and like then
- 29:34Speaker 1: her life crumbled a little bit, because I think like
- 29:37Speaker 1: that would have been a little more relatable. But it
- 29:40Speaker 1: sounds like this has been her life since graduation, like
- 29:43Speaker 1: nothing's changed, Like I would have I would have appreciated,
- 29:47Speaker 1: like it's been six months since I haven't had a
- 29:49Speaker 1: job and like I'm a little lost, And I think
- 29:51Speaker 1: that would have been more relatable than well, I'm taking
- 29:56Speaker 1: another interview and you know, it's just weird.
- 30:01Speaker 3: It's so weird.
- 30:03Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just I wish she would just the
- 30:05Speaker 1: whole Paul storylines just stupid.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Yeah, it's stupid, And like I would have loved it
- 30:11Speaker 3: more if Rory was in London for work, single and
- 30:17Speaker 3: she gave into texting Logan.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Or ran into him at a at like the same
- 30:23Speaker 1: restaurant that she was having.
- 30:24Speaker 3: And she's just like, hey, I'm here, Do you want
- 30:25Speaker 3: to grab dinner?
- 30:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 30:27Speaker 1: Like a little cheeky, And.
- 30:28Speaker 3: Then they haven't seen each other in eight years and
- 30:30Speaker 3: they just have the best sex of their life that night,
- 30:32Speaker 3: like getting drunk and going all over London having I
- 30:37Speaker 3: don't know, crazy sex and YadA YadA, Like that would
- 30:41Speaker 3: be way better than like this, Like I've been with.
- 30:44Speaker 1: This guy for two years, You're not gonna like the
- 30:47Speaker 1: rest of you have the stuff now, I will say
- 30:51Speaker 1: I like walked. Looking back, I actually think that Winter
- 30:55Speaker 1: might have been my least favorite of them, except for
- 30:58Speaker 1: the Richard storyline.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so overall, how many what is this like,
- 31:05Speaker 3: your fifth time watching Winter or how many times have
- 31:07Speaker 3: you seen it?
- 31:08Speaker 2: Well?
- 31:08Speaker 1: I watched it twice this week, but before that it
- 31:11Speaker 1: had been over a year or two since I've watched it,
- 31:14Speaker 1: so I haven't watched it as much as this the series.
- 31:18Speaker 3: Okay, what did you think this beween? However many times.
- 31:22Speaker 1: You've watched let's say three or four? Yeah, okay, your.
- 31:24Speaker 3: Fourth time watching it? How do you how do you feel?
- 31:27Speaker 1: I I'm going into it with a different light, I
- 31:32Speaker 1: think because we just really analyzed the whole series and
- 31:36Speaker 1: I've never analyzed the series that much in my life,
- 31:38Speaker 1: like usually it's my fun binge, and there were a
- 31:41Speaker 1: lot of things that I wish were different. Like now,
- 31:44Speaker 1: I kind of understand for those people who, like, you know,
- 31:47Speaker 1: know every little moment, Like I didn't always remember moments
- 31:50Speaker 1: from the show, and I think that there were moments
- 31:53Speaker 1: I would have changed. But as someone who was so
- 31:56Speaker 1: excited for this to come back, when I watched it,
- 31:59Speaker 1: like when they dropped those four episodes, it was the
- 32:02Speaker 1: most exciting thing ever. Yeah, I'm sure so, I think
- 32:04Speaker 1: remembering that it was, I didn't even care what the
- 32:07Speaker 1: storylines were at that point. I was like, all my
- 32:10Speaker 1: there were people are back on TV together.
- 32:13Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I mean.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it. I don't think it was bad.
- 32:15Speaker 1: I just think there were things that were like questions
- 32:18Speaker 1: I had that had happened, questions about things that had
- 32:21Speaker 1: happened over the eight years.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. Overall thoughts will give our top two
- 32:30Speaker 3: either thoughts or bones to pick. Okay, my first thing
- 32:34Speaker 3: is I when I first started watching it and it
- 32:38Speaker 3: first started rolling and it was Rory and Laura and
- 32:41Speaker 3: the Gizzy bo hmm, I was like, ooh, it's a
- 32:45Speaker 3: little bit rocky, like they were just rusty with their dialogue,
- 32:50Speaker 3: and they were like trying to go back and forth
- 32:52Speaker 3: and go fast and and and I think even Laura
- 32:56Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh, it's great to do that again.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a second.
- 33:01Speaker 3: I was just like, it's been a years. It's been
- 33:03Speaker 3: eight years. Yeah, So that was number one, but it
- 33:07Speaker 3: picked up, It definitely picked up. And then number two
- 33:11Speaker 3: is the kind of a bone to pick if Luke
- 33:16Speaker 3: has WiFi and oh my god, years later, can we
- 33:21Speaker 3: please have cell phone service?
- 33:23Speaker 1: And stars hollow like yeah, that her running around with
- 33:27Speaker 1: the phone in the air. I was like, this is is.
- 33:29Speaker 3: So annoying, so annoying.
- 33:32Speaker 1: But they had cell phones at the end of the series.
- 33:35Speaker 1: I mean, obviously not a smartphone, but like, but.
- 33:37Speaker 3: That's my point. It's been eight years, Like you got service.
- 33:41Speaker 1: It's twenty sixteen, come on, you got service. Yeah. I
- 33:45Speaker 1: understand Luke's, like you said, not having Wi Fi because
- 33:47Speaker 1: there are places we go now and Wi Fi's password protected.
- 33:50Speaker 3: But still and also Luke has WiFi, he just doesn't want,
- 33:56Speaker 3: you know, Like, so it's like, which is totally fair,
- 33:58Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Yeah, my bone to pick is probably the relationship with
- 34:08Speaker 1: Lane in Paris. I just didn't like that. I just
- 34:11Speaker 1: didn't like what they acted like.
- 34:13Speaker 3: They were best friends, but they're not. Yeah, you're not
- 34:15Speaker 3: best friends.
- 34:16Speaker 1: You're like, come on, I watched all these years of
- 34:18Speaker 1: the show.
- 34:19Speaker 5: You knew.
- 34:20Speaker 1: The specific line was, Hey, Lane, you remember Paris dug.
- 34:24Speaker 3: Of course she remembers, I can't.
- 34:27Speaker 1: That line was my bone bones pick.
- 34:30Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well we rate it. Hopefully we didn't
- 34:34Speaker 3: bore everyone.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I hope this is a little bit different of its take.
- 34:38Speaker 3: I know I haven't listened to to Scott Amy and Susan's.
- 34:43Speaker 1: I listened to some of it, so they definitely agreed
- 34:46Speaker 1: with the cell phone tower, I know that.
- 34:51Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we didn't repeat too much. But but yeah,
- 34:55Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's rate it. What would you rate it.
- 34:59Speaker 1: I'm going going to give it. My measuring stick is
- 35:03Speaker 1: Kirk Ubers.
- 35:06Speaker 3: Oohs, I give it.
- 35:10Speaker 1: I give it a seven.
- 35:11Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna give it eight out of ten.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Red silk sheets.
- 35:21Speaker 1: You never want to see it.
- 35:22Speaker 3: I can't get over it. I can't get over it, Jackie.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Did they talk about the red silk sheets?
- 35:26Speaker 2: Did?
- 35:28Speaker 3: I almost called them Luke Scott Amy and Suzanne talk
- 35:30Speaker 3: about it. No, Oh my goodness. Our producer Jackie said
- 35:35Speaker 3: they did not.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Between that and the Pizza Bies.
- 35:38Speaker 3: It was one thing at the end of that, at
- 35:41Speaker 3: the end of Winter, I was like, oh my god,
- 35:45Speaker 3: Luke red sheets and lover Light sleep in red silk sheets,
- 35:49Speaker 3: and I can't get over it.
- 35:50Speaker 1: I mean, but then again, like with her house being
- 35:53Speaker 1: so oh wait, one more bones to pick that scene
- 35:57Speaker 1: when they were when Luke was cooking in Lorelei's kitchen, Yeah,
- 36:04Speaker 1: just a little off to me.
- 36:05Speaker 3: I like Luke and the diner.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, just go to the diner side.
- 36:09Speaker 1: I understand why to show that they're like more of
- 36:12Speaker 1: a family, but I don't know, like Tim more the
- 36:17Speaker 1: diner than Lorele's kitchen. And then they like didn't even
- 36:18Speaker 1: eat the food eat made, they were eating everything else
- 36:21Speaker 1: on the fridge.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Do we see Jess next episode? Next movie? Is he
- 36:26Speaker 3: in spring?
- 36:28Speaker 1: I don't remember which one he's in.
- 36:31Speaker 3: I really need Jess back.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I will say, I'm not spoiling anything, but you'll be happy.
- 36:39Speaker 3: Oh please, I need him back.
- 36:41Speaker 1: I just I just remember I was like, oh, that's
- 36:44Speaker 1: why I'm team Jess, Like it was very I remember.
- 36:47Speaker 3: I cannot wait. I'm going to have many thoughts and
- 36:50Speaker 3: ideas and opinions.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, last question, did you like that they started
- 36:55Speaker 1: started with winter because my first thought was I kind
- 36:58Speaker 1: of wish winter was last because of the ice snow,
- 37:00Speaker 1: and I wish I started with fall.
- 37:02Speaker 3: I do like that they started with winter because I
- 37:05Speaker 3: wanted to end in fall. And okay, and to me,
- 37:09Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls is fall. Yeah, it is the epitome of fall.
- 37:15Speaker 3: So I like that they're gonna end on what what
- 37:19Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls is?
- 37:20Speaker 1: That's a really good thing. I was thinking start with
- 37:24Speaker 1: fall because I think of fall.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you're gonna have to end in one.
- 37:28Speaker 1: I was just thinking that I smell snow and all that,
- 37:30Speaker 1: but I guess.
- 37:31Speaker 3: Fall, the fall is the holidays, right, so like I'm
- 37:33Speaker 3: going to end on Thanksgiving. I want to end in Christmas,
- 37:35Speaker 3: like I want all that stuff.
- 37:38Speaker 1: That's very fair.
- 37:39Speaker 3: All right, anyways, all right, guys, well this has been fun. Tara,
- 37:44Speaker 3: do you want to sign us off? Give us your
- 37:45Speaker 3: best Scott impression?
- 37:47Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I did this once and I know
- 37:48Speaker 1: I don't remember how I did it. Well, Thanks Danielle,
- 37:52Speaker 1: because you're the only one here. Thanks for Scott, to
- 37:56Speaker 1: Scott for being on work girls.
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