Latest / The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show / Hour 3 - Halfway Clay & All-In Buck
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back in. Hour number three rolling through the Thursday
- 0:03Speaker 1: edition of the program. We head now down to the
- 0:07Speaker 1: Sunshine State where Byron Donalds is poised to become the
- 0:10Speaker 1: next governor. Of the state of Florida, early voting underway. Now, Byron,
- 0:16Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on with us. I'm not the kind
- 0:20Speaker 1: of guy to throw anybody under the bus, as you
- 0:22Speaker 1: well know. But I voted early in Tennessee already. So
- 0:27Speaker 1: my ballot is in. Marsha Blackburn is going to be
- 0:29Speaker 1: the next governor of Tennessee. You're going to be working
- 0:31Speaker 1: with her. But the guy who actually lives in Florida,
- 0:34Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, has not yet voted. This makes me a
- 0:37Speaker 1: better American than him. Don't you agree? And what would
- 0:41Speaker 1: you say to others in Florida like Buck Sexton, not
- 0:44Speaker 1: to throw him under the bus, but who have not
- 0:46Speaker 1: also gotten out and voted early yet?
- 0:49Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you for throwing Buck under
- 0:51Speaker 2: the bus like that. Yeah, Buck, you need to get
- 0:53Speaker 2: out and vote, man. You have a lot going on.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Make sure your voice is counted, your vote is counted,
- 0:57Speaker 2: your voice is heard. I think, look, for people in
- 0:59Speaker 2: our state who still haven't voted, we know you're going
- 1:01Speaker 2: to get out and vote. Just make sure you have
- 1:03Speaker 2: a plan. Make sure you execute that plan. Our state's
- 1:06Speaker 2: a great state. We want it to continue to be
- 1:08Speaker 2: the best state in America. That's only possible by people
- 1:11Speaker 2: going out to vote and make sure that we don't
- 1:13Speaker 2: have Democrats come into Florida and run this state because
- 1:17Speaker 2: they'll do what they did in so many states up north.
- 1:20Speaker 2: They'll run it into the ground. We have to make
- 1:22Speaker 2: sure we keep Florida as the free state of Florida.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I'm looking at Buck personally. Buck, you need to go
- 1:27Speaker 2: vote today.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Amen.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Hold on a second, Mr. Soon-to-be-Governor.
- 1:32Speaker 5: Byron, I just want to point out that there's a
- 1:35Speaker 5: nickname for Clay. It's called Halfway Clay because he's owning
- 1:40Speaker 5: property in Florida, but he's Mr. Tennessee, right? So he
- 1:44Speaker 5: wants to have his cake and eat it, too. He's like,
- 1:46Speaker 5: I want all the greatness of Florida, but I'm going
- 1:49Speaker 5: to also have a house in Tennessee. They call me
- 1:52Speaker 5: all in buck for the great state of Florida.
- 1:55Speaker 2: All in.
- 1:56Speaker 5: Because I'm all in on Florida, and I will be
- 1:59Speaker 5: out there voting early. It's going to happen this week.
- 2:03Speaker 5: I talked to Wifey. We've got to get it done.
- 2:05Speaker 5: So we're going to get that early vote done. But
- 2:07Speaker 5: tell me this. What are you seeing and hearing so
- 2:09Speaker 5: far about that early vote? And if you could just
- 2:12Speaker 5: take us around the state a little bit, what are
- 2:14Speaker 5: some of the trends that are looking good for your
- 2:17Speaker 5: campaign right now?
- 2:19Speaker 2: Florida Republicans are starting to show up at the polls.
- 2:22Speaker 2: It's something that we knew was going to happen. Actually,
- 2:25Speaker 2: Republican voters, by absentee, actually returned their ballots, the ones
- 2:30Speaker 2: that wanted to vote by mail, at a higher percentage
- 2:32Speaker 2: than Democrats. And that's a good sign. We're starting to
- 2:35Speaker 2: see the momentum pick up in early, early voting. It's
- 2:39Speaker 2: only been a couple of days of that so far.
- 2:41Speaker 2: And so we anticipate that's going to continue as we
- 2:44Speaker 2: work our way up to Election Day. And then on
- 2:46Speaker 2: Election Day, we see a lot of Republicans are going
- 2:49Speaker 2: to be turning out on Election Day. Our big thing
- 2:51Speaker 2: is just make sure your vote is counted. Make sure
- 2:54Speaker 2: you get out there. Make sure you vote. And the
- 2:56Speaker 2: reason why we're pressing this so much is that the
- 2:59Speaker 2: only way we keep Florida as the best state is
- 3:01Speaker 2: you have to get out and vote. You have to
- 3:03Speaker 2: vote for all the things that you love about our state,
- 3:05Speaker 2: law and order, common sense, protecting young kids, empowering families
- 3:10Speaker 2: and parents and education, making sure we have low taxes
- 3:13Speaker 2: and low regulation. We have to work on affordability. My
- 3:17Speaker 2: plan is lower insurance premiums, 20% in the state of Florida.
- 3:20Speaker 2: We're going to lower the cost of housing in Florida.
- 3:23Speaker 2: But you've got to make sure we keep the same
- 3:25Speaker 2: consistent common sense policies that have made us the best
- 3:27Speaker 2: in America.
- 3:29Speaker 1: We're talking to Byron Donald's early voting underway. Everybody in
- 3:32Speaker 1: Florida needs to get out and vote. We're going to
- 3:34Speaker 1: come back to serious things. But I know you were
- 3:38Speaker 1: at the Florida State Miami game this weekend. And I
- 3:41Speaker 1: know as governor, you will be called upon to represent everyone,
- 3:44Speaker 1: even though you're a huge Florida State fan. How bad
- 3:47Speaker 1: was the holding call in the second overtime that negated
- 3:51Speaker 1: a Hail Mary touchdown, and are you over it yet
- 3:55Speaker 1: as a Florida State fan?
- 3:58Speaker 2: It was egregious. I don't know what the referees were
- 4:00Speaker 2: looking at, and I don't want to throw them under
- 4:03Speaker 2: the bus too much because I shook their hands at
- 4:05Speaker 2: the beginning of the game. I'm thinking, okay, we're going
- 4:07Speaker 2: to call it down the middle. That holding call was
- 4:10Speaker 2: not holding. I think everybody knows that. But I also
- 4:13Speaker 2: got to tell you, We missed a couple golden opportunities
- 4:17Speaker 2: in that game as a Florida State fan. When you're
- 4:19Speaker 2: deep in Miami territory like that and it's fourth down,
- 4:23Speaker 2: you've got to kick field goals. Kicking field goals is okay.
- 4:25Speaker 2: You don't want that to be the recipe for the
- 4:27Speaker 2: entire game, but it's a rivalry game. You're on the road.
- 4:30Speaker 2: You've got to take the points.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Byron, I know you have a big responsibility.
- 4:35Speaker 5: Not only as we believe, and certainly if sanity prevails,
- 4:39Speaker 5: the future governor of the great state of Florida, but
- 4:42Speaker 5: also there's some very important down-ballot races, and you've been
- 4:45Speaker 5: sharing the stage and out there on the stump with
- 4:48Speaker 5: some other Republican names.
- 4:49Speaker 4: For example, how is it looking?
- 4:52Speaker 5: I mean, can you just speak to a little bit
- 4:54Speaker 5: Senator Ashley Moody against Angie Nixon, how that's looking and
- 5:00Speaker 5: any insight you can give us on are we feeling
- 5:03Speaker 5: good about where that is?
- 5:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it's looking good. Ashley's going to win, but I
- 5:08Speaker 2: don't want to beat a dead horse. But, you know, Buck,
- 5:11Speaker 2: you're Mr. All-In, so I've got to say, people have
- 5:13Speaker 2: got to be all-in. You've got to go vote. That's
- 5:15Speaker 2: the way it is. If you don't go vote, that's
- 5:17Speaker 2: what puts a seat like that at risk. But we
- 5:20Speaker 2: know Republican voters in Florida are going to make sure
- 5:23Speaker 2: they get out and vote. But Ashley has been campaigning hard.
- 5:26Speaker 2: She's going to continue to do a great job, and
- 5:28Speaker 2: we think that she's going to win. She's going to
- 5:30Speaker 2: be successful on November 3rd as well.
- 5:32Speaker 5: What's... Well, for some of the, you know, this might
- 5:35Speaker 5: also help to get out some of the, you know,
- 5:37Speaker 5: I think the biggest problem, Byron, not problem, but the
- 5:40Speaker 5: thing that we want to avoid is people just assuming
- 5:42Speaker 5: that Florida has become so red under Governor DeSantis. that
- 5:47Speaker 5: somebody else will do the voting for you, so to speak.
- 5:50Speaker 5: So I agree with you. We've got to get everybody
- 5:51Speaker 5: out there. Because it's also important to send a message
- 5:54Speaker 5: that this is Fortress, Florida. We need you to win
- 5:57Speaker 5: by 8, 9, 10 points. We need this to be
- 5:59Speaker 5: a big victory. But I was wondering if you could
- 6:03Speaker 5: just give us a sense. It's the first 90 days
- 6:07Speaker 5: of your new term as governor. What are you doing
- 6:11Speaker 5: in Florida? Because a lot of the rest of the
- 6:12Speaker 5: country looks at Florida as, a leader on these issues
- 6:15Speaker 5: and initiatives, a place that's doing it right?
- 6:19Speaker 2: Oh, we're going to be laser focused on affordability. Insurance,
- 6:22Speaker 2: like I said earlier, our plan lowers premiums 20% in
- 6:25Speaker 2: the state of Florida. We're going to be working immediately
- 6:28Speaker 2: with the legislature to get that accomplished. Also, permitting reform.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Most people don't know that 30% of the cost of
- 6:35Speaker 2: a new home is government, not a roof, not appliances,
- 6:39Speaker 2: not furniture, but it's government. So we have to modernize
- 6:43Speaker 2: permitting in our state. We want to make sure that
- 6:45Speaker 2: we are building efficiently. So we're not artificially driving up
- 6:49Speaker 2: the cost of construction just because of government timelines and
- 6:52Speaker 2: government permanent costs. So those are the big two things
- 6:55Speaker 2: that we're going to be laser focused on. The third
- 6:58Speaker 2: is our launch pad initiative. We want children in Florida,
- 7:01Speaker 2: if they're not going to the university system, we want
- 7:04Speaker 2: them to be able to have an apprenticeship or an
- 7:06Speaker 2: internship or some on the job training. so they can
- 7:09Speaker 2: get the skills they need so when they graduate high school,
- 7:11Speaker 2: they can hit the ground running and walk directly into
- 7:14Speaker 2: a high-paying job. It's going to be laser-focused on affordability.
- 7:18Speaker 2: That's what the voters of our state are looking for.
- 7:19Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you're in Miami or you're in Pensacola, Florida,
- 7:23Speaker 2: Tampa Bay, or Southwest Florida where I live. It doesn't
- 7:26Speaker 2: matter where you are. Affordability is the thing that people
- 7:29Speaker 2: are thinking about. It's on their minds. We have to
- 7:31Speaker 2: lower costs in our state, and we're going to do that.
- 7:33Speaker 1: We're talking to the next governor of Florida, Byron Donalds. Byron,
- 7:38Speaker 1: we mentioned the Senate race with you. You're running on
- 7:40Speaker 1: the governor side. They also redrew the entire congressional map,
- 7:46Speaker 1: as you well know, because you have been in Congress
- 7:48Speaker 1: for the past several years representing southwest Florida, the Naples area.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Would you also want people to understand that there are
- 7:55Speaker 1: a lot of battleground congressional races and people need to
- 7:59Speaker 1: think not only about the top of the ticket with
- 8:01Speaker 1: you and the Senate, but the down ballot, making sure
- 8:05Speaker 1: that Florida has as many Republicans in Congress and in
- 8:08Speaker 1: the legislature? wildly important i'll let you make that pitch
- 8:11Speaker 1: particularly because people may find out that they're in a
- 8:14Speaker 1: new district maybe they're not familiar this happened to me
- 8:17Speaker 1: in tennessee after redistricting i try to stay pretty informed
- 8:21Speaker 1: i wasn't even aware what district i was in when
- 8:23Speaker 1: i went to go.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Vote that's exactly right i mean look i'll start with
- 8:27Speaker 2: the tampa bay region we have mike beltran congressional district
- 8:31Speaker 2: 14 this is the new one he's running uh against
- 8:34Speaker 2: a career democrat incumbent We need Mike Beltran to be
- 8:38Speaker 2: successful and go to Congress. His opponent, Cathy Castor, she's
- 8:42Speaker 2: voted for everything that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden sent
- 8:46Speaker 2: down the pike, things that drove up, created the affordability crisis.
- 8:50Speaker 2: She voted for the open borders that was destroying this country.
- 8:53Speaker 2: We need Mike Beltran to win in Congress there. In
- 8:56Speaker 2: Congressional District 9, we have Dan Green, the Democrat, Darren Soto.
- 9:01Speaker 2: We need Dan Green to get across the line. He's
- 9:04Speaker 2: somebody who's served this nation. He will be a great
- 9:07Speaker 2: member of Congress. When you go further down south, we
- 9:10Speaker 2: have Casey Asghar. He's in Congressional District 22. He's running
- 9:14Speaker 2: against some weird progressive socialist. I can't even pronounce the
- 9:19Speaker 2: lady's name. It doesn't really matter. And just to show
- 9:21Speaker 2: you how much I believe in our team, Casey Asghar
- 9:24Speaker 2: and I ran against each other for Congress years ago.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Six years ago, I ran against Casey Asghar. It was
- 9:30Speaker 2: a spirited primary. But look, at the end of the day,
- 9:33Speaker 2: he's going to do a much better job in Congress
- 9:36Speaker 2: than his opponent will be. If you live in Congressional
- 9:38Speaker 2: District 22, This is Eastern Collier County, Marco Island, Florida, Weston, Florida.
- 9:45Speaker 2: You got to get out and vote for Casey Asghar.
- 9:47Speaker 2: And Congressional District 25, we have Scott Singer against Jared Moskowitz.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Scott Singer will do a great job for us in
- 9:54Speaker 2: this country. It's about making sure that the political views
- 9:59Speaker 2: of Florida are represented in Washington, D.C. Big battleground states.
- 10:05Speaker 2: One last one I'll throw out there. Sidney Gruters, Florida 16.
- 10:08Speaker 2: This is around Manatee, Sarasota County. Sidney Gruters is going
- 10:15Speaker 2: to do a great job. People, make sure you get
- 10:17Speaker 2: out a vote for her as well. We're going to
- 10:19Speaker 2: have a great congressional delegation going forward. But if it
- 10:22Speaker 2: stays that way, people have to get to the polls.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Please make sure you vote.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Absolutely. That is the key message.
- 10:29Speaker 5: And since I think we've hit that one pretty hard, Byron,
- 10:32Speaker 5: I did want to see if I could get you
- 10:34Speaker 5: to weigh into some, well, not treacherous territory, but contentious
- 10:39Speaker 5: between Clay and me. And that is looking forward, if
- 10:43Speaker 5: I could, to 2028. Is Kamala Harris even going to run?
- 10:47Speaker 5: What do you think, Byron? Where are the Democrats on this?
- 10:49Speaker 5: This is like a fun game that we play these
- 10:51Speaker 5: days because it seems so wide open. And I know
- 10:54Speaker 5: you're focused on your own governor's race and all that,
- 10:56Speaker 5: and that's what you should be. But we wanted just
- 10:57Speaker 5: a fun soundbite here on where you think Kamala is.
- 11:00Speaker 5: Does she even run? Does she become the nominee? Who
- 11:02Speaker 5: do you think is the top Democrat to beat?
- 11:06Speaker 2: I don't really care, but do I think she's going
- 11:08Speaker 2: to be the nominee? No, I don't think so. I
- 11:12Speaker 2: don't see how that's going to happen. I think the
- 11:15Speaker 2: dark horse over there, it could be, you know, Beshears
- 11:20Speaker 2: in Kentucky. It could be Westmore out of Maryland. Those
- 11:22Speaker 2: could be like the dark horse candidates. But their party
- 11:25Speaker 2: is so crazy. You know, they're going to become more
- 11:27Speaker 2: socialist over the next two years, not less. They're going
- 11:30Speaker 2: to continue to support more crazy policies over the next
- 11:33Speaker 2: two years, not less. I mean, look at what Bernie
- 11:35Speaker 2: is pushing right now. You know what the number one
- 11:37Speaker 2: issue is going to be in the Democrat primary for
- 11:39Speaker 2: president of the United States? Where do you support Medicare
- 11:43Speaker 2: for all? I'm telling you right now, the two big
- 11:46Speaker 2: things for them are going to be Medicare for all
- 11:48Speaker 2: and open borders.
- 11:50Speaker 4: That's where the.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Democrats have gone. It is a crazy party. So I
- 11:54Speaker 2: really don't care who their nominee is. I just know
- 11:57Speaker 2: we need to go ahead and beat that person in 2028.
- 12:00Speaker 2: But in 2026, everybody just make sure you get to
- 12:03Speaker 2: the polls and vote.
- 12:05Speaker 4: Going to get out there and vote for Byron Donalds.
- 12:06Speaker 4: Go ahead, Clay.
- 12:07Speaker 1: No, I'll finish it by saying, like I pointed out
- 12:09Speaker 1: at the top, I'm a better American than Buck until
- 12:12Speaker 1: he actually goes and gets his votes done in Florida.
- 12:15Speaker 5: I'm just busy taking care of my homesteaded primary residence
- 12:20Speaker 5: in the state of Florida, Clay. Not everyone can say that.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Byron, you're lucky because I pay taxes without demanding hardly anything.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Buck is exactly. I like how Clay, you know, he
- 12:34Speaker 2: votes in Tennessee, but he spends more and more time
- 12:38Speaker 2: in Florida.
- 12:39Speaker 4: I know.
- 12:39Speaker 2: I love Marshall, but I know why he spent more
- 12:41Speaker 2: time in Florida.
- 12:42Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying, the beaches in Tennessee, the beaches
- 12:45Speaker 5: in Tennessee, not as nice this time.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Of year, Byron. Just saying. Just going to be fair there.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Go vote for Byron Donalds. Byron, we appreciate the time.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. And in 12 days, enjoy
- 12:56Speaker 1: the celebration, sir.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Listen, thank you, guys. Take it easy.
- 12:59Speaker 4: Good luck.
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- 14:25Speaker 5: Back into clay and buck obviously midterms top story of
- 14:28Speaker 5: the day and probably going to continue to be until
- 14:31Speaker 5: election day we find out where all these races end
- 14:35Speaker 5: up but uh there's another story that is uh percolating
- 14:39Speaker 5: in the background something we have addressed here i just
- 14:41Speaker 5: wanted to update you and this is on the investigation
- 14:45Speaker 5: into representative ilhan omar and the allegations which are I mean,
- 14:51Speaker 5: they've been out there for years that to gain legal
- 14:54Speaker 5: status in this country, she committed immigration fraud. And she
- 14:58Speaker 5: has finally spoken directly about this, spoken out about this, Clay.
- 15:02Speaker 5: She was on, I think it was Chris Hayes' show
- 15:04Speaker 5: on MS Now. I still love it. They had to
- 15:08Speaker 5: change the name because it's such a trash brand that
- 15:10Speaker 5: NBC was like, get away. Anyway, here she is on
- 15:14Speaker 5: MS Now talking about whether she married her brother. Play 15.
- 15:20Speaker 4: Who was this man that was your husband?
- 15:22Speaker 5: When did they start saying that he was your brother?
- 15:24Speaker 1: Why?
- 15:25Speaker 6: It started with the Somali blog. I don't know if
- 15:31Speaker 6: it still exists, but somebody put in there that he
- 15:35Speaker 6: had to have been my brother or something to that effect.
- 15:37Speaker 6: And right-wing... conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it,
- 15:44Speaker 6: and they just kind of went and found random people
- 15:47Speaker 6: who were like, she introduced us. She introduced him to
- 15:51Speaker 6: us and said he was her brother, which is insane.
- 15:57Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know those people that they talk about.
- 16:01Speaker 1: You were not related to him at all.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Not to my knowledge.
- 16:04Speaker 5: Clay, Why not just say, I'll take a blood test,
- 16:13Speaker 5: I'll take a DNA test, and just put this to
- 16:15Speaker 5: bed right now?
- 16:16Speaker 4: Why not just do it?
- 16:16Speaker 1: Because it's her brother, I think.
- 16:18Speaker 4: Clearly.
- 16:18Speaker 1: I mean, I think, look, the not to my knowledge.
- 16:23Speaker 1: First of all, leave aside the ha ha ha. Can
- 16:25Speaker 1: you believe that some people are saying this and the
- 16:28Speaker 1: way that it is treated as if it is a
- 16:30Speaker 1: crazy proposition? Notwithstanding that Miranda Devine, who's been right about
- 16:35Speaker 1: almost everything, said that she and her second husband, according
- 16:38Speaker 1: to her sources, shared 99.99999, I think it was, percent DNA.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Based on the test that had been run, not to
- 16:48Speaker 1: my knowledge, to me, Buck is intentional because it opens
- 16:53Speaker 1: up the door that she was victimized here and somebody
- 16:57Speaker 1: made her do this and she feels like a fraud
- 17:00Speaker 1: was perpetrated on her. Not to my knowledge is a,
- 17:06Speaker 1: I think, clear legal response because that then allows her
- 17:12Speaker 1: to say, I wasn't being dishonest. I had no idea
- 17:15Speaker 1: that we had any kind of relationship. A fraud was
- 17:18Speaker 1: perpetrated on me. I'm a victim here, too. That's where
- 17:22Speaker 1: I think this is going. It's like Bill Clinton saying
- 17:24Speaker 1: that depends on what the meaning of.
- 17:26Speaker 4: The word is.
- 17:27Speaker 1: This is not, to my knowledge, is an attempt to
- 17:32Speaker 1: avoid legal responsibility for potentially this decision that was made.
- 17:37Speaker 5: Also, in Somalia, marrying your first cousin is not a problem.
- 17:42Speaker 4: You can do it. It's permitted.
- 17:46Speaker 5: Now, marrying your brother would be a whole level beyond that,
- 17:48Speaker 5: but the point is they've got different rules, so different situations.
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- 18:47Speaker 4: Welcome back in.
- 18:53Speaker 1: It sounds like we got a bunch of people who
- 18:54Speaker 1: want to weigh in a variety of different topics out there.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Among them, our good friend Light Em Up Linda, who,
- 19:00Speaker 1: unlike Buck, is a good American and has evidently gone
- 19:03Speaker 1: and voted already. But before you give us your report
- 19:07Speaker 1: from your voting trip, Linda, I seem to recall that
- 19:11Speaker 1: you told me that Byron Donalds was not going to
- 19:15Speaker 1: be elected governor. Are you willing to rescind that criticism?
- 19:19Speaker 1: and acknowledge that he is going to win now based
- 19:22Speaker 1: on your experience at the polls?
- 19:25Speaker 7: Well, I already had rescinded that because, remember, I called
- 19:30Speaker 7: up and apologized to Bucs.
- 19:32Speaker 2: About.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Oh, yes. OK, I do.
- 19:36Speaker 4: Apology was accepted. Light him up. Apology.
- 19:39Speaker 1: I forgot that you had already backed off of that
- 19:41Speaker 1: bad call. So what did you see when you went
- 19:44Speaker 1: to to get your early vote done to make sure
- 19:47Speaker 1: that unlike Buck, you are a good American?
- 19:49Speaker 2: I don't.
- 19:50Speaker 4: Let don't let clay get sassy with you linda go ahead.
- 19:52Speaker 7: Yeah no i won't i won't because me and my
- 19:54Speaker 7: daughter both went and voted today um and it's funny
- 19:58Speaker 7: because i went up there's a bunch of people you
- 20:01Speaker 7: know you got to go up and you got a
- 20:02Speaker 7: hand id and i was just kind of like joking
- 20:04Speaker 7: with the woman And I said, she said, I.D. And
- 20:07Speaker 7: I said, oh, that's a concept. You need I.D. to vote.
- 20:11Speaker 7: And she was like, yeah. And I go, well, in California,
- 20:13Speaker 7: you don't. And she was like, really? And I'm thinking,
- 20:17Speaker 7: what rock do you live under? I mean, are you
- 20:19Speaker 7: kidding me? But in any case, I I did hold
- 20:24Speaker 7: my nose, but I did vote for Byron Donalds and
- 20:28Speaker 7: I voted straight red. And there was a few people
- 20:32Speaker 7: on my ballot that I had to hold my nose
- 20:34Speaker 7: for because I don't like. But I did vote red
- 20:38Speaker 7: and we both voted for Byron Donald.
- 20:41Speaker 5: So light him up before we get to our guest here.
- 20:43Speaker 5: I just want to if Byron Donald does a good job,
- 20:46Speaker 5: you got to give him at least a year. If
- 20:48Speaker 5: he's doing a good job, you're going to call it
- 20:49Speaker 5: and say, right, that that actually Byron surprised you and
- 20:53Speaker 5: you give him credit.
- 20:55Speaker 7: Absolutely, I will. And I hope he does do a
- 20:57Speaker 7: good job. But but here's the thing. He now it's
- 21:00Speaker 7: now it's being endorsed by Ron DeSantis. Well, when before
- 21:04Speaker 7: he got it, it was endorsed by Trump. Now it's
- 21:07Speaker 7: endorsed by DeSantis. Why can't you say you're endorsed by both?
- 21:11Speaker 7: You know, now all of a sudden he's like avoiding Trump.
- 21:16Speaker 7: And I voted for Byron because of Trump.
- 21:18Speaker 5: Well, I'm telling you, light him up. I think Byron's
- 21:21Speaker 5: going to do a good job, so give him a chance.
- 21:23Speaker 5: And thank you, Linda, for calling in. And Clay, we've
- 21:25Speaker 5: got Mr. Newt Gingrich on the line.
- 21:28Speaker 4: We do.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Newt Gingrich joins us now. And we know that you've
- 21:32Speaker 1: been through a lot of elections over the years and
- 21:35Speaker 1: going in a variety of different directions. What's your read
- 21:39Speaker 1: as we sit here 12 days out officially for the
- 21:42Speaker 1: midterms with a lot of people voting in earnest all
- 21:45Speaker 1: over the country already?
- 21:48Speaker 8: Well, I think that initially the Democrats had some advantages
- 21:52Speaker 8: because people were focusing on the price of gasoline and
- 21:55Speaker 8: the price of diesel fuel and the price of food.
- 21:58Speaker 8: And then as people began looking at who the Democrats were,
- 22:03Speaker 8: they began shifting back and going, you know, I may
- 22:07Speaker 8: be mad this week about the price of gasoline, but
- 22:11Speaker 8: if I elect these guys, they're going to.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Ruin the country.
- 22:16Speaker 8: And I'm not mad enough to ruin the country. And
- 22:18Speaker 8: so you have seen a steady shift back to the Republicans.
- 22:23Speaker 8: The early voting in Florida has a 15-point advantage for
- 22:27Speaker 8: the Republicans. The early voting in Yuma County, which is 70%
- 22:32Speaker 8: Latino in Arizona, the Republicans are actually running better than
- 22:37Speaker 8: they did in 2024. And so you look around, you
- 22:41Speaker 8: start seeing signs that It's beginning to break towards the
- 22:45Speaker 8: Republicans in a way that the Democrats just don't understand.
- 22:50Speaker 8: When you even have the New York Times saying that El-Said,
- 22:56Speaker 8: the Democratic candidate in Michigan, wrote a letter supporting the
- 23:02Speaker 8: Muslim Brotherhood, I mean, when the Times thinks they have
- 23:05Speaker 8: to write that, you know that there's a growing sense
- 23:10Speaker 8: that they may have gone way too far to the
- 23:12Speaker 8: left and way too far towards anti-Semitism, anti-Israel, and policies
- 23:19Speaker 8: that people just will not vote for.
- 23:23Speaker 5: Speaker Gingrich, appreciate you being with us. I know you've
- 23:25Speaker 5: got a new book out, America's Golden Age, Trumpism and
- 23:29Speaker 5: an Era of Limitless Possibilities. Sounds to me like this
- 23:34Speaker 5: book has a whole bunch of at least optimistic, thoughts
- 23:39Speaker 5: for this period of America. I share that optimism. I
- 23:43Speaker 5: wanted you to just tell everybody so much of talk
- 23:45Speaker 5: radio and politics, I think, can be in the battles,
- 23:48Speaker 5: the fights and the challenges and problems. But there's also,
- 23:51Speaker 5: as you write in the book, limitless possibility for America
- 23:54Speaker 5: right now. I wanted you to speak to that, if
- 23:55Speaker 5: you would.
- 23:56Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I decided that I had to write
- 24:00Speaker 8: America's Golden Age because I was sick and tired of
- 24:03Speaker 8: the negativity. I mean, people have talked themselves into a depression.
- 24:07Speaker 8: The news media refuses to cover good news. They'd rather
- 24:11Speaker 8: spend a week destroying a presidential press secretary than cover
- 24:16Speaker 8: breakthroughs on Alzheimer's or breakthroughs in going into space or
- 24:19Speaker 8: all the different interesting things that are positive. The consultants
- 24:24Speaker 8: run ads that are vicious, some of which are, frankly, embarrassing.
- 24:28Speaker 8: And it's almost like the political culture has lost its
- 24:33Speaker 8: mind and is running in circles everywhere. beating itself almost
- 24:36Speaker 8: like the flagellante in the Middle Ages and saying, I've
- 24:40Speaker 8: been bad, I've been bad. But the fact is, and
- 24:44Speaker 8: when I wrote America's Golden Age, I reached out 50 years.
- 24:48Speaker 8: So this is 2076. It is the 300th anniversary of
- 24:54Speaker 8: the signing of the Declaration. And frankly, it's a time
- 24:57Speaker 8: of extraordinary opportunities. Now, many of these opportunities are already
- 25:02Speaker 8: available or will be available in the next year or two.
- 25:05Speaker 8: But when you see them going all the way out,
- 25:10Speaker 8: it's astonishing the positive things that are starting to happen.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Newt, you've always been a extremely positive person who believed
- 25:20Speaker 1: in the promise of technology.
- 25:23Speaker 4: You were.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Very involved as the Internet became a transformative force in
- 25:29Speaker 1: the American economy. You were in office. You were helping
- 25:32Speaker 1: to balance the budgets to help make America more economically
- 25:36Speaker 1: viable than it was before. How much of an overlap
- 25:40Speaker 1: do you see between the Internet era dawning in America
- 25:43Speaker 1: and now AI? How do you see them as similar, different?
- 25:47Speaker 1: How much time do you spend thinking about it? I
- 25:49Speaker 1: bet the answer is quite a lot.
- 25:52Speaker 8: There are some real parallels. I mean, just think about
- 25:56Speaker 8: everybody listening to us who gets in a car, puts
- 25:59Speaker 8: in an address, and then listens to a voice tell
- 26:02Speaker 8: them exactly what to do to get to the right place.
- 26:05Speaker 8: And we all take it for granted. Well, that's a
- 26:08Speaker 8: worldwide system of unimaginable power. And that's just a tiny piece.
- 26:14Speaker 8: When Steve Jobs, in January of 2007, introduced the modern smartphone... Today,
- 26:22Speaker 8: there are 6 billion people who have smartphones, all of which,
- 26:26Speaker 8: by the way, have better cameras than you could have
- 26:29Speaker 8: bought in 1950. And they're just built into the phone.
- 26:33Speaker 8: So you look at all this stuff that's real. One
- 26:37Speaker 8: of the things I found fascinating when I was doing
- 26:39Speaker 8: research for America's Golden Age, of the six major technology
- 26:46Speaker 8: companies that dominate the world, Five were founded by teenagers,
- 26:52Speaker 8: and one was founded by somebody who was 24. Now,
- 26:56Speaker 8: that's a level of entrepreneurship and openness to change that
- 27:01Speaker 8: no other society in the world has.
- 27:04Speaker 5: Speaker Gingrich, can you also just talk to us a
- 27:07Speaker 5: little bit about, you know, there are concerns out there
- 27:10Speaker 5: right now for the change happening online. so rapidly that
- 27:15Speaker 5: some of the normal features of a society absorbing those transformations.
- 27:20Speaker 4: May be a little bit overwhelmed.
- 27:21Speaker 5: The first thing that comes to mind, for example, would
- 27:24Speaker 5: be job displacement as a result of AI. I'm very pro-technology,
- 27:29Speaker 5: as is Clay. We think a lot of this stuff.
- 27:31Speaker 5: We talk about Elon and a lot of these breakthroughs.
- 27:33Speaker 5: We talk about Anduril and the tech breakthroughs that are
- 27:36Speaker 5: needed for defense these days and other things. But people say, well,
- 27:40Speaker 5: what happens to all the truck drivers? Or what happens
- 27:42Speaker 5: to all of the administrative assistants, et cetera? Usually, they
- 27:47Speaker 5: change and do other things right throughout history. The buggy
- 27:51Speaker 5: whip maker becomes the car or whatever. People transfer it.
- 27:55Speaker 5: Is it different this time? How do you view the
- 27:57Speaker 5: way that this could have, AI could have an effect
- 27:59Speaker 5: on jobs?
- 28:01Speaker 8: Look, in 1800, 97% of the people lived on the farm. 97%.
- 28:09Speaker 8: Today it's less than 3%. But somehow all those other
- 28:13Speaker 8: folks found work. Maybe they work at Disney World. Maybe
- 28:17Speaker 8: they work manufacturing. Maybe they work on an airplane. People find,
- 28:23Speaker 8: societies take their wealth and create new things. It's interesting
- 28:29Speaker 8: because one of the things I write about in America's
- 28:31Speaker 8: Golden Age is the notion that we're going to live
- 28:35Speaker 8: dramatically longer. I think the average American by 2076 will
- 28:40Speaker 8: be living to be 115 or older and will have
- 28:43Speaker 8: the vitality of a person who's 60 years old and
- 28:47Speaker 8: will be substantially wealthier than they are now. Well, guess what?
- 28:52Speaker 8: An early warning indicator of that Look at the rise
- 28:55Speaker 8: of the cruise ship industry. I mean, you have an
- 28:58Speaker 8: amazing number of jobs around the world taking care of people.
- 29:02Speaker 8: You have to think of all the tour guides when
- 29:04Speaker 8: the cruise ship comes into port, and you go out
- 29:07Speaker 8: and you're paying a tour guide to show you this town.
- 29:10Speaker 8: And all those jobs didn't exist in 1930. And now
- 29:16Speaker 8: it's literally an entire industry that's getting bigger and getting
- 29:21Speaker 8: more sophisticated. And my brother just visited with my sister-in-law.
- 29:28Speaker 8: He came to see us in Bern, Switzerland, where I'm
- 29:31Speaker 8: living with Clifton as the ambassador to Switzerland. And they
- 29:34Speaker 8: just came off a 16-day cruise. And they didn't think
- 29:38Speaker 8: anything of it. They do a couple of years. So
- 29:42Speaker 8: from my perspective, there are lots of new things happening
- 29:45Speaker 8: out there. There will be turmoil. And I also do
- 29:49Speaker 8: have a chapter, though, on the human condition. I mean,
- 29:52Speaker 8: I don't care how wealthy we get. Some people will
- 29:56Speaker 8: have mental health problems. Some people will become drug or
- 30:00Speaker 8: alcoholic addicts. Some people will be just evil. I mean,
- 30:05Speaker 8: evil exists in the world, and that's why you have
- 30:07Speaker 8: to have a strong military and a strong police, and
- 30:10Speaker 8: you have to be willing to protect the innocent from
- 30:13Speaker 8: the evil. And that will be true in 2076, as
- 30:16Speaker 8: it's been true actually from Genesis on, if you read
- 30:20Speaker 8: Genesis carefully. And it has a murder in it.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Right now, you're a history guy. Last question for you.
- 30:30Speaker 1: And Buck and I are both history guys, too. And
- 30:33Speaker 1: I know that you've spent your whole life reading history.
- 30:35Speaker 1: And one of the most difficult things, as you well know,
- 30:38Speaker 1: about history is talking about future of history when we're
- 30:43Speaker 1: actually in the midst of it. With that caveat out there,
- 30:47Speaker 1: how do you think, as a historian, the Trump era
- 30:50Speaker 1: is likely to be seen 50 or 100 years from now?
- 30:55Speaker 8: As the most decisive and disruptive since Andrew Jackson. A
- 31:02Speaker 8: man who came in from outside who understood that the
- 31:07Speaker 8: bureaucracies and the so-called experts had all sort of fossilized
- 31:13Speaker 8: and that if America was going to continue to be great,
- 31:16Speaker 8: we had to break loose again and we had to
- 31:18Speaker 8: get back on offense about investments and science and technology
- 31:24Speaker 8: and that it will be one of the most consequential presidencies,
- 31:30Speaker 8: I think ranking just below Washington and Lincoln and sort
- 31:34Speaker 8: of on the same level as Franklin Delano Roosevelt or
- 31:38Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Great stuff. We appreciate the time. Encourage everybody to get
- 31:43Speaker 1: the latest book, sir. Keep up the good work, and
- 31:46Speaker 1: we look forward to having you on again when the
- 31:47Speaker 1: next book comes out.
- 31:49Speaker 8: Thanks.
- 31:50Speaker 1: That's Newt Gingrich. Look, we want to tell you.
- 31:53Speaker 5: Newt is one of those rare, expansive and sweeping knowledge,
- 32:00Speaker 5: but also an interesting thinker.
- 32:02Speaker 6: Yes.
- 32:03Speaker 4: Some people have one. Very few people have both.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Well, that's why I think history is so important, because
- 32:11Speaker 1: the contextualization of understanding the moment and being able to
- 32:16Speaker 1: have a larger vision is important.
- 32:20Speaker 4: And very few people have it.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Unfortunately, everybody is different prisoners of the moment, and being
- 32:27Speaker 1: able to step back and see the larger perspectives I
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- 34:15Speaker 1: to clay and buck.
- 34:16Speaker 5: Welcome back into clay and buck i cannot believe that
- 34:18Speaker 5: it will be friday tomorrow although i guess that is
- 34:21Speaker 5: the case when it is thursday but still the week
- 34:24Speaker 5: feels like it has flown by sometimes sometimes do you
- 34:30Speaker 5: ever see best in show you ever see that it's
- 34:32Speaker 5: been a long time but yes i've seen that oh
- 34:34Speaker 5: it's a great movie But I love the announcer guy
- 34:38Speaker 5: in that. The two announcers, like the sort of stuffy
- 34:40Speaker 5: British guy, and then a guy whose name is Buck
- 34:43Speaker 5: in the movie. I forget what his last name is,
- 34:46Speaker 5: but he's like, you know, Buck Johnson or something like that.
- 34:48Speaker 5: And he just starts randomly throwing things. He's like, yeah,
- 34:51Speaker 5: he's like, that dog looks great. You know, I used
- 34:53Speaker 5: to be able to bench press 500 pounds in my prime.
- 34:55Speaker 4: Like, you would just throw random stuff in there.
- 34:57Speaker 5: He's really a great part of Best in Show, for
- 35:00Speaker 5: those of you who haven't seen it. By the way,
- 35:01Speaker 5: a movie that I think holds up super well. And
- 35:04Speaker 5: and highly, highly recommend for especially if you're a dog
- 35:07Speaker 5: person and you have not seen it.
- 35:09Speaker 4: I think you would really, really enjoy that one.
- 35:11Speaker 5: But sometimes I feel like I'm a little bit of
- 35:13Speaker 5: a buck, whatever his name is, and that I just
- 35:15Speaker 5: want to talk about random stuff, too. Do we want
- 35:17Speaker 5: to do this Besson clip here or we're going to
- 35:19Speaker 5: have we're going to have it? I mean, are we
- 35:22Speaker 5: kind of a big deal? Does our library smell of
- 35:25Speaker 5: rich mahogany or our apartment rather smell of rich mahogany? Yes,
- 35:28Speaker 5: of course. We might have the Treasury secretary on tomorrow.
- 35:31Speaker 5: So I think that's pretty cool.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:33Speaker 1: And I mean, look, with all of the things going
- 35:35Speaker 1: on right now in A.I. and everything else, Scott Besson
- 35:39Speaker 1: is going to be on with us tomorrow. We can
- 35:41Speaker 1: also ask him, Buck. He's a South Carolinian. The president
- 35:44Speaker 1: has been headed to South Carolina to rally because, as
- 35:48Speaker 1: we told you, might end up being the case. Darlene
- 35:52Speaker 1: Graham is having some challenges connecting with the larger South
- 35:56Speaker 1: Carolina electorate. I think probably because she's never run for
- 35:59Speaker 1: political office before and it's a hard.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Thing to do. she, what was her, what was her job?
- 36:06Speaker 1: It was a nonprofit of some sort, but that's a
- 36:09Speaker 1: broad category, but it wasn't like a, uh, it wasn't
- 36:13Speaker 1: the kind of job that you would have if you
- 36:14Speaker 1: are next going.
- 36:15Speaker 4: To be ready to be a Senator. Yeah, yeah, no, correct.
- 36:18Speaker 5: Um, well anyway, I think we'll have the treasury secretary
- 36:20Speaker 5: with us tomorrow, which will be great. That'll be really
- 36:22Speaker 5: important conversation talking about where the economy is going.
- 36:25Speaker 4: Uh, some mega mergers.
- 36:27Speaker 5: I'm sure Clay's going to ask about like, you know,
- 36:29Speaker 5: all kinds of interesting things in the world of, uh,
- 36:33Speaker 5: corporations and Skydance and all kinds of good things. We
- 36:37Speaker 5: got a lot of questions, a lot of things to discuss.
- 36:39Speaker 5: Send us your thoughts, by the way, for the Charter Secretary.
- 36:41Speaker 5: Maybe we can get a question into him and we'll
- 36:43Speaker 5: talk to you all tomorrow.