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2025 Great Debates: Collared stems are clearly superior to collarless stems · AHF Podcast

• 1:05
  Joseph M. Schwab: Welcome to the AHF podcast.
• 1:08
  Joseph M. Schwab: I'm your host, Joe Schwab.
• 1:11
  Joseph M. Schwab: So one of the things we added to the 2025 annual meeting, or I should say, one of the things we brought back at the 2025 AHF annual meeting were the great debates.
• 1:23
  Joseph M. Schwab: When the AHF first started, the vision was that it could be a place for open debate about how best to do anterior approach.
• 1:31
  Joseph M. Schwab: Often that means disagreeing with each other and debates are a good way to do that in front of your peers so everybody can benefit.
• 1:40
  Joseph M. Schwab: I remember that Joel Matta specifically wanted the original debates to be contentious, maybe even a little personal tongue in cheek, of course, but in some of the early debates, the insults thrown around were a bit one sided.
• 1:57
  Joseph M. Schwab: Not everybody got the memo, I think so when I brought it back for this meeting, I made sure that all the participants got the same ground rules.
• 2:07
  Joseph M. Schwab: The first rule.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: No fact checking specifically as the moderator.
• 2:13
  Joseph M. Schwab: I wasn't gonna do any fact checking.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: I wanted the participants to know that they didn't have to be right to win.
• 2:22
  Joseph M. Schwab: They just had to be persuasive.
• 2:25
  Joseph M. Schwab: The second rule was that this is a debate, not a PowerPoint.
• 2:30
  Joseph M. Schwab: You should provide arguments for your position and against your opponent's position, not just provide a review on a subject.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: I allowed them to have notes, but I didn't want any slides to be shown.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: The third rule was that you didn't actually need to believe or practice the side you were arguing, but you should be genuinely interested in putting forth the best set of arguments for your position.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: And the last rule, maybe the most important one is that it should be entertaining.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: If some playful ad hominin attacks against your opponent are added to the fun and no feelings are hurt, well that's all the better from my perspective.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: So now that you have the ground rules, let's jump in to the first debate.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: I.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: 10 minutes are gonna be allocated to each topic, and the way it'll go is that the pro person will get four minutes for their primary position statement, followed by four minutes for the con primary position statement.
• 3:34
  Joseph M. Schwab: And then one minute rebuttals back and forth.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: This is gonna be strictly timed.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: There will be a buzzer.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: There you go.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: You just gotta end what you're saying at that point.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: So we're gonna start off with collared versus collarless stems, and the position statement is"Collared stems are clearly superior to collarless stems", the pro position will be Gillian Soles, and the con position will be Steve Lochow.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: Gillian, you get the floor first.
• 4:08
  Gillian Soles: Okay.
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  Gillian Soles: So I mean, we're talking about collarless versus collared stems, and I mean, I don't know if my colleague reads any journals, but there was a large study with 48,000 patients out of Australia.
• 4:23
  Gillian Soles: And they looked at the difference in revision rate for fracture or loosening over a seven year period, and they found that there were increased revision rates at three months and increased fractures at six months for the collarless stems.
• 4:36
  Gillian Soles: Because it resists subsidence.
• 4:38
  Gillian Soles: Now, yesterday we all saw how Yerasimides took a simple three pound mallet and pounded on the stem and got it to loosen a little bit so that he could get it out.
• 4:48
  Gillian Soles: And I would argue if you take one of Haidukewych's carbohydrate-ly, what did he call it?
• 4:53
  Gillian Soles: They had carbohydrate resistance or carbohydrate poisoning disease, and they start stomping around.
• 4:59
  Gillian Soles: I'm sure their legs weigh more than three pounds.
• 5:01
  Gillian Soles: And so the stem might subside and now the leg length's a little bit off.
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  Gillian Soles: And the common complaints patients come into the office and they're like, doc, you did my hip replacement.
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  Gillian Soles: And now one leg is longer than the other or shorter than the other.
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  Gillian Soles: And you get all these complaints.
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  Gillian Soles: And if you just simply do the surgery, plane down, put the stem with the collar, it'll sit exactly where you put it.
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  Gillian Soles: It won't move.
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  Gillian Soles: Your patients will be happier.
• 5:25
  Gillian Soles: They won't loosen the stems.
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  Gillian Soles: They won't need to be revised.
• 5:28
  Gillian Soles: I mean, I have other scientific evidence to back me up too.
• 5:31
  Gillian Soles: There was another meta-analysis.
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  Gillian Soles: They looked at 480 studies, a few of those, 40 of them qualified, and they also noted lower revision rates with equivalent or better radiographic outcomes.
• 5:42
  Gillian Soles: Sure, your x-rays look good, but if you have to pay, take the patient back to the or.
• 5:46
  Gillian Soles: I mean, that's no fun for anybody.
• 5:48
  Gillian Soles: And that was because they had increased axial and rotational stability and less subsidence.
• 5:52
  Gillian Soles: And finally, if you don't believe any of those clinical studies, you have to believe biomechanical studies where they did a finite, an element analysis, and they showed that there was more stability even if you had a small gap.
• 6:05
  Gillian Soles: So, I mean, you got the collared stem.
• 6:07
  Gillian Soles: Even if you have a one millimeter gap, they compared collared sitting on the calcar collared with a one millimeter gap and collarless and both the collared ones outperformed the collarless stem.
• 6:17
  Gillian Soles: So I'm saying here, there is no argument the collared is clearly superior.
• 6:23
  Steve Lochow: Alright.
• 6:25
  Steve Lochow: Right.
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  Steve Lochow: So, great.
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  Steve Lochow: So it made you, uh, quoting those articles made me think of something.
• 6:29
  Steve Lochow: Uh, Joel Matta likes to tell us.
• 6:31
  Steve Lochow: That sometimes you don't need a study to try to disprove common sense, right?
• 6:36
  Steve Lochow: So sometimes common sense tells you all you need to know.
• 6:39
  Steve Lochow: So for this, all I did is went to chat GPT and said, Hey, who's superior?
• 6:44
  Steve Lochow: And it's pretty amazing.
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  Steve Lochow: I thought there was no chance chat GPT would be able to talk about collared versus collarless stems.
• 6:50
  Steve Lochow: And by gosh it does.
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  Steve Lochow: So that's something interesting to go check out.
• 6:53
  Steve Lochow: So I have multiple points that I can make why collarless is better.
• 6:57
  Steve Lochow: Um, first collarless is easier to put in, right?
• 7:02
  Steve Lochow: You don't have to worry about, you know, if you put a collar on a stem and you undersize it and it sits on the calcar, that's sometimes hard to judge.
• 7:09
  Steve Lochow: And if your stem's too small, I don't care if there's a collar there or not, it can still subside.
• 7:14
  Steve Lochow: It can go into retroversion.
• 7:15
  Steve Lochow: They talk about rotational stability.
• 7:17
  Steve Lochow: I don't buy it, you know, um, collarless is more forgiving to different anatomies, right?
• 7:24
  Steve Lochow: So you can put that in about anybody.
• 7:26
  Steve Lochow: I even read an article, they talked about the collar can impinge on the iliopsoas.
• 7:30
  Steve Lochow: So there's something else I hadn't even ever thought of.
• 7:32
  Steve Lochow: There's another problem with collared stems.
• 7:36
  Steve Lochow: They talk about biomechanically.
• 7:38
  Steve Lochow: Um, a collarless stem has less stress shielding, right?
• 7:42
  Steve Lochow: So it's more, um, anatomy friendly, more physiologically friendly.
• 7:46
  Steve Lochow: And so the last point that I'm gonna make that I think is actually the most important one about a collarless stem.
• 7:52
  Steve Lochow: So we're doing anterior hips.
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  Steve Lochow: Everybody in this room's here interested in anterior hips and.
• 7:57
  Steve Lochow: That kind of makes our patients a little bit younger, right?
• 8:00
  Steve Lochow: Um, that's just me thinking about our practices.
• 8:04
  Steve Lochow: You know, it's very common.
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  Steve Lochow: I have a 55-year-old with good bone.
• 8:08
  Steve Lochow: Our patients have good bone, so I use a collarless stem in all those younger patients because there's a chance.
• 8:14
  Steve Lochow: And we've learned this week, this weekend.
• 8:16
  Steve Lochow: That each year the revision rate creeps up a little bit as people get older.
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  Steve Lochow: And we all know it is so much easier to take out a collarless stem than a collared stem.
• 8:25
  Steve Lochow: You know, collarless stem you can have out in just minutes.
• 8:27
  Steve Lochow: If you've got a collared stem, that's a whole different animal.
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  Steve Lochow: So hopefully that proves my point.
• 8:33
  Steve Lochow: collarless stems is way to go.
• 8:35
  Gillian Soles: Steve, you ignorant slut.
• 8:39
  Gillian Soles: As a final point.
• 8:42
  Gillian Soles: Please show the founder of the Anterior Hip Foundation's remarks on this.
• 8:47
  Joel Matta: Why would anyone use a non collared stem?
• 8:56
  Steve Lochow: My simple rebuttal is the instructions were no PowerPoint, no videos, so if you had to resort to that, that's cheating.
• 9:04
  Joseph M. Schwab: All right.
• 9:05
  Joseph M. Schwab: Very good.
• 9:06
  Joseph M. Schwab: I'd like to thank Gillian Soles and Steve Lochow for starting us off.
• 9:11
  Joseph M. Schwab: Right.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: You'll be awarded the winner at the end when we give out all the prizes at the moment, and this is good.
• 9:18
  Joseph M. Schwab: We're keeping things going.
• 9:19
  Steve Lochow: I never thought I'd be called a slut on the stage.
• 9:23
  Joseph M. Schwab: It's about time everyone's too intimidated by your size to call you that.
• 9:28
  Joseph M. Schwab: Even though Gillian clearly violated my rules by showing a video clip, as somebody who grew up on the old Saturday Night Live, I couldn't help but appreciate how she brought back Dan Aykroyd versus Jane Curtin, but she took the Dan Aykroyd perspective.
• 9:45
  Joseph M. Schwab: Man, that was great.
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  Joseph M. Schwab: So who do you think won the debate?
• 9:51
  Joseph M. Schwab: Is it collared or collarless stems that's better for patients?
• 9:55
  Joseph M. Schwab: Or maybe better yet, tell me what you're doing in your practice.
• 9:59
  Joseph M. Schwab: Do you try and use the same stem in every case, or maybe you like to mix it up, or maybe you try and match a stem to a patient's anatomy?
• 10:11
  Joseph M. Schwab: Either way leave a comment below.
• 10:14
  Joseph M. Schwab: Thank you for joining me for this episode of the AHF podcast.
• 10:18
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• 10:26
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• 10:45
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  Joseph M. Schwab: I'm your host, Joe Schwab, asking you to keep those hips happy and healthy.