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The Late Debate | 27 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome the late debate. Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James macpherson with Liz Staer and Joe Hildebrand coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump begins trolling Joe Biden ahead of tomorrow's presidential debate.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a bad effort either. Will show you that
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  Speaker 1: in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, when we look at the papers, Australian military takes
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  Speaker 2: possession of a one billion dollar drone and Melbourne Universities
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  Speaker 2: threatened students with expulsion for taking part in pro Palestinian rallies.
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  Speaker 2: All of that a little later, but first we need
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  Speaker 2: to answer the question is there a climate crisis or not?
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  Speaker 2: Or at least North Sydney Council needs to answer that question.
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  Speaker 2: After telling EV drivers they can't run power cords across
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  Speaker 2: the footpath to charge their vehicles, they say it's a
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  Speaker 2: trip hazard.
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  Speaker 1: Well let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 2: What's worse tripping on a cord and raising your knee
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  Speaker 2: or dying due to global boiling. Why do North Sydney
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  Speaker 2: Council hate the planet EV owners if, if we're honest,
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  Speaker 2: they're on the front line of the battle against climate change.
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  Speaker 2: But environmentally conscious drivers like North Sydney resident John Slater
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  Speaker 2: have been threatened with three hundred dollars fines because unable
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  Speaker 2: to park his car in his own driveway, he has
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  Speaker 2: to run an extension cord across the footpath to charge it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: have a look at his car and the cord that
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  Speaker 2: he ran across the path. I think we've got an
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  Speaker 2: image of it that shows John Slater went to quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit of effort. He's taped the cord down on
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  Speaker 2: the footpath so no one's going to trip over it.
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  Speaker 2: But then, of course he got a letter from the
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  Speaker 2: council saying if he dares to do that again, he'll
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  Speaker 2: receive a three hundred dollars fine. Well, John was pretty
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  Speaker 2: astonished by this. In fact, he told the Daily Telegraph
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  Speaker 2: I was astonished. We were only charging at night, and
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  Speaker 2: we live in a very quiet street with barely any
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  Speaker 2: pedestrian traffic after six pm, and we used a black
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  Speaker 2: covering on the cord so it wasn't a trip hazard.
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  Speaker 2: And then he says this, which I think is the
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  Speaker 2: killer line. He says, we have a client, an emergency,
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  Speaker 2: but the council is instead more worried about public liability
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  Speaker 2: and being sued. Great point, John Slater tripping hazards will
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  Speaker 2: be the least of our problems when Sydney is overrun
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  Speaker 2: by rising sea levels because councils won't allow ev drivers.
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  Speaker 3: Joe, that is absolutely that's right. Basically, North Cydney Council
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  Speaker 3: is responsible for the death of the planet and the
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  Speaker 3: end of human civilization as we know it. I hope
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  Speaker 3: you're proud of yourselves. I wonder if this is why
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  Speaker 3: Kyllia Tink's seat got redistributed in the latest Australian Electional
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  Speaker 3: Commission shake up of the boundaries, because of course she
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  Speaker 3: was the teal member for North Sydney, but no longer
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  Speaker 3: because North Sydney no longer exists as an electric which
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  Speaker 3: again is an early warning system for what's going to
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  Speaker 3: the entire planet. Because they're not letting this up. And
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  Speaker 3: they're not the first council to do it either. There
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  Speaker 3: was another council. I think you might have been Northern Meass.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to flag them off, but there was
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  Speaker 3: another council that said this. This has been going on
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  Speaker 3: and on and on and no one's got a solution
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  Speaker 3: for it. What do you do if you don't have
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  Speaker 3: a Drivewise, it's about.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty percent Liz, I think of Sydney residents who don't
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  Speaker 2: have a driveway where they can park their car. So
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  Speaker 2: the government pushing everybody into evs that yet to provide
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  Speaker 2: a solution to how people are going to charge these things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And you've got to feel for this guy, John Slater
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  Speaker 5: because the whole article he sounds like such an earnest soul.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, he's got solar panels.
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  Speaker 5: He mentions that he's done everything the government asked him to.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the solar panels.
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  Speaker 5: Now he's going to be charged for exporting excess energy
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  Speaker 5: during the day when solar panels make the most energy,
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  Speaker 5: and he's at work so he can't use any of it.
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  Speaker 5: But thank you, John. He's got the EV because the
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  Speaker 5: government told him to. Maybe he was subsidized, maybe he wasn't,
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  Speaker 5: but he genuinely wants to save the planet, so he
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  Speaker 5: got that. He wants to charge it at home because
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  Speaker 5: it's forty two cents less per killer watt, eight cents
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  Speaker 5: at home, fifty cents if he goes to one of
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  Speaker 5: those public pumps and waits for hours in a line,
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  Speaker 5: finally gets there, fuels up that way, so it's much
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  Speaker 5: cheaper for him this way as well. He spent one
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  Speaker 5: thousand dollars rather all his equipment, the cord, the tarp,
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  Speaker 5: making sure no one will trip. And someone still dubbed
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  Speaker 5: him on into the very government. And he turns around
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  Speaker 5: Ernest John and says, I'm so astonished, John, buddy, have
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  Speaker 5: you figured out yet it's not about saving the planet.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, think with me here. They're really hard.
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  Speaker 1: I'm impressible, Sydney council.
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  Speaker 2: I've got rangers after ten pm at night, patrolling footpaths
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  Speaker 2: taking photo.
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  Speaker 5: Really, it wasn't a ranger. That's that's just as serving monitory.
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  Speaker 5: Because he was absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: That's how councils work. It's not a ranger.
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  Speaker 5: And he said himself he lives in a very quiet area,
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  Speaker 5: so rangers aren't checking out like parking tickets or anything
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  Speaker 5: like that in a really quiet area. One of his
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  Speaker 5: neighbors has spotted the tarts added that I used to
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  Speaker 5: be your city councilor this is how it always works.
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  Speaker 5: Nancy next door picking up the phone, being like, are
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  Speaker 5: you aware? And now poor John, despite all his efforts,
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  Speaker 5: is still getting.
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  Speaker 3: And I think when you said, you know, and you
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  Speaker 3: know he's got solar panels. That riding me to the
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  Speaker 3: old joke about you know, how do you know if
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  Speaker 3: someone's vegan, they'll tell you, they'll tell you.
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  Speaker 4: But I made it into the article.
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  Speaker 3: He's so selfless because even despite having all the solar
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  Speaker 3: powers panels and not being able to, you know, not
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  Speaker 3: being able to exploit it because he's at work during
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  Speaker 3: the day, he's still charging his EV at night, so
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  Speaker 3: he's actually handing this money directly over to the government,
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  Speaker 3: over to osgrid and the supplies. And also, I can't
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  Speaker 3: help but wonder why would you make it a requirement
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  Speaker 3: for or it is an effective de facto requirement whether
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  Speaker 3: you make it one or not. But you're saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: you can own you can't have any cords on the footpath,
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  Speaker 3: so you can only have a you can only charge
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  Speaker 3: your car at home if you have a garage or
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  Speaker 3: a driveway on site on your property. When at the
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  Speaker 3: same time we constantly get all these studies showing that
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  Speaker 3: houses with the biggest land geographical footprint are also the
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  Speaker 3: biggest producers of carbon They're also the biggest producer of
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  Speaker 3: carbon dioxide, so they're also the worst of the environment.
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  Speaker 3: So you are basically saying that to have to own
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  Speaker 3: an electric vehicle, you have to have a property that
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  Speaker 3: produces more CO Two. Right, we're through the looking glass,
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  Speaker 3: yere people, And I'm a supporter, I'm on John's side.
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  Speaker 3: But again, there is just no force on Earth, including
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  Speaker 3: the actual prospective end of the Earth itself, more powerful
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  Speaker 3: than petty bureaucracy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you'd think if there was a Climate CIS Council
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  Speaker 2: would throw people like John Slater a bone.
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  Speaker 4: It wins the day.
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  Speaker 5: And while we're speaking about evs, the fact that we
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  Speaker 5: don't have the infrastructure, the fact that all the lithium
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  Speaker 5: batteries are very dangerous, the fact that we won't have
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  Speaker 5: anywhere to put all the lithium batteries, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: And so on. Maybe they can be remotely turned off
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  Speaker 4: the list whar's long.
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  Speaker 5: Let's check out this battery factory in South Korea where
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  Speaker 5: a massive explosion lithian iron battery factory went up in
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  Speaker 5: smoke on Monday. Of course, it was very hard to
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  Speaker 5: get such a blaze out. I believe we've got some
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  Speaker 5: footage of it there if we can get that up
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  Speaker 5: on the screen. So this lithium battery factory, the lives
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  Speaker 5: of twenty two people.
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  Speaker 4: This is while it was still nice.
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  Speaker 5: And small, but wait for it, it gets a lot bigger.
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  Speaker 5: Quite the tragedy. Twenty two lives in total lost due
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  Speaker 5: to this.
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  Speaker 2: To give your perspective on that, there were one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and two people working in the factory at the time
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  Speaker 2: and twenty two of them perished in this.
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  Speaker 5: Solios lithium there you go, they grow very fast. And
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  Speaker 5: also it may not have been that those twenty two
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  Speaker 5: people were caught in the.
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  Speaker 4: Flames necessarily, but being a lithium.
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  Speaker 5: Iron fire, those fumes are incredibly toxic. So if you
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  Speaker 5: are within smellings distance, indeed your life could be very
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  Speaker 5: much in danger. But don't just think this kind of
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  Speaker 5: thing is happening in South Korea. Check out this headline
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  Speaker 5: from just last week where the people who collect our
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  Speaker 5: rubbish are saying, oh no, we encounter about ten thousand
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  Speaker 5: lithium iron battery fires a year. Check Out this quote
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  Speaker 5: from Viola chief exec Richard Kirkman. He says he receives
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  Speaker 5: calls once or twice a.
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  Speaker 4: Week rebattery fires.
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  Speaker 5: He said, most of the time we're getting that fire out,
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  Speaker 5: but every couple of weeks we're losing a truck, or
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  Speaker 5: we're having a serious fire which is costing us money,
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  Speaker 5: or a facility. So I don't know about you guys,
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  Speaker 5: but I had no idea it was this prevalent.
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  Speaker 4: We've covered the odd.
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  Speaker 5: Fire here and there with say a e bike blowing
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  Speaker 5: up again with him my own battery, but I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know that we're seeing up to ten thousand per year,
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  Speaker 5: and these guys see it most of course, because people
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  Speaker 5: don't dispose of their batteries in the right way.
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  Speaker 4: They just chuck it in the bin. You're not supposed
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  Speaker 4: to do that.
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  Speaker 5: But they rightly make the argument that we can't just
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  Speaker 5: tell people not to throw their batteries in the bin
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  Speaker 5: when there's nowhere else to put them.
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  Speaker 2: One of the most dangerous things you can do is
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  Speaker 2: charge your scooter, for instance, at your front door, inside
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  Speaker 2: your apartment, or in your house.
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  Speaker 1: My kids had an.
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  Speaker 2: Electric scooter, which we greatly enjoyed racing around local car parks.
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  Speaker 2: But of course they would bring it inside the house,
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  Speaker 2: put it in the front door, plug it in. But
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  Speaker 2: now you know, of course, artis patches on fire.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get out. There's the exits.
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  Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing and there's a site. There's a
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  Speaker 3: line in the story about the factory fire in South
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  Speaker 3: Korea that alarming, just a line in passing right and says,
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  Speaker 3: the fire, which has largely been extinguished, occurred at about
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  Speaker 3: ten thirty am on Monday. I'm not filled with confidence
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  Speaker 3: by the use of the word largely because isn't the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing that these things just currently put out like
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  Speaker 3: you're just you're just constantly, constantly you think you've got it out,
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  Speaker 3: like firefighters are having to learn new techniques to put
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  Speaker 3: out with your mind fighters. And again, this is not new.
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  Speaker 3: We've had new technologies that are hard to deal with
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  Speaker 3: and kill people and since time immemorial. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: as if this is meant to be reassuring the fire
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  Speaker 3: which has largely been extinguished, So hey, guys, is the
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  Speaker 3: fire out in the house yet?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? Largely that there was thirty five thousand units in
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  Speaker 5: this factory. So a lithium bactory fire is bad enough,
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  Speaker 5: but imagine that many units going up in flame.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the article says, and we showed the vision of
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  Speaker 2: how it started. Within fifteen seconds it took before the
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  Speaker 2: whole place was on fire. Of course, sticking with electric vehicles.
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  Speaker 2: One of the challenges is the reliab of these vehicles,
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  Speaker 2: considering most of them are now coming from China. Fascinating
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  Speaker 2: story in the papers this week about Sarah from northern
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  Speaker 2: New South Wales who had an absolute horrid time with
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  Speaker 2: her new hybrid MG manufactured in China. Now she thought
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  Speaker 2: she got a bargain forty nine thousand dollars hybrid MG.
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  Speaker 2: But listen to her describe what happened after she drove
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  Speaker 2: it away from the dealership in.
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  Speaker 1: Sutherland, Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: She says, immediately after driving it out of the dealership,
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  Speaker 2: she experienced a catastrophic power failure, whereby I couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: engage the electronic break the alone acceleration or steering. So
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  Speaker 2: it's one thing for your brakes to go, Liz, but
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  Speaker 2: I would suggest that when you're steering and your acceleration
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  Speaker 2: searing do nothing, you are completely out of control.
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  Speaker 1: She carries on.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully I stopped meters short of a major intersection in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: I did, however, have to keep my foot on the
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  Speaker 2: brake for ninety minutes until a tow truck arrived.
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  Speaker 3: Oh hang on a minute of the breaks working or not?
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  Speaker 2: Good point see it's very confusing with these anyway, Police
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  Speaker 2: and DMC Transport Management Center also had to attend due
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  Speaker 2: to the traffic hazard. So she takes the car back
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  Speaker 2: to the dealership and says, look, the brakes failed, the
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  Speaker 2: accelerator failed, the steering failed. Can you please do something
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  Speaker 2: about this? They were very apologetic and a representative apologized
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  Speaker 2: these were unfortunate events. The dealership said that happened on
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: the day of delivery with your new car. They replaced
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  Speaker 2: the battery, paid all the expenses, etc. And she was
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  Speaker 2: told go home. You have had an incredibly unlucky day.
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  Speaker 3: I'd to say that is the most Eastern Zen way
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  Speaker 3: of describing what happened. It was unlucky, unfortunate events that
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  Speaker 3: happened on day of delivery with your new car was
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  Speaker 3: very unlucky.
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  Speaker 1: The breaks failed. That's unlucky.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a fortune cookie.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, it gets worse.
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  Speaker 2: Nine days later, she's in Belena in northern New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales and the battery fails again. This time she can't
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  Speaker 2: start the car, but warning lights are going off NonStop.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: She can't stop the warning lights going off, so she
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  Speaker 2: returns the car a second time and is told, look,
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  Speaker 2: we've tested the battery. There is no fault at all.
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  Speaker 2: The car is yours. Well, she didn't want it at
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  Speaker 2: this point. She said, look, I can't rely on the
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  Speaker 2: breaks to work. I can't rely that it's going to
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  Speaker 2: start when I need it to. Could you please take
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  Speaker 2: it off my hands? But unfortunately the dealer said, we're
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  Speaker 2: not in a position to take it back from you.
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  Speaker 2: This raises the question, do you remember we always used
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  Speaker 2: to make the jokes about stuff made in China. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's cheap Chinese stuff, But now most of
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  Speaker 2: the cars people are driving are made in China.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I would be very much of that
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  Speaker 3: same view, except for the fact that this sounds exactly
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  Speaker 3: what happens with my Falcon every single day of my life.
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  Speaker 3: It won't start. People are looking at it going it
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: seems like one hundred years old and a bit yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like no, it's what he said. It's two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: eight something I was, and it's meant to be a
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  Speaker 3: workhorse at last. Forever it had the thing where the
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: engine mobilizer just didn't work. It just didn't. It just
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: didn't know. No one really knew what it was. They
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: tried to fix and fixed one thing and could fix
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: another thing. They had a thing where the LPG just
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: would never ever kick in. I still don't know what
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: my mechanic did, only he understands it better than me.
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  Speaker 3: It somehow got not one but two insect infestations with
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: not one but two different types of insects. So first
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: it was ants, then it was German cockroaches. I wouldn't
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: mind if it was just normal cockroaches. German issue? Was
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: that an issue with how you've been? Just just me?
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: Because I'm just cursed. I'm just absolutely cursed. We can't
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: and I could go on and on and on and
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: on and on. The jack just disappeared, like the tires
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: of every single tire has blown out of everything. The ball,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: the ball joints on the wheels, right the wheels are
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: literally falling off. The ball joints on the wheels just
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: last month, right fully just snapped like like.
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  Speaker 4: Just feel like you can relate to Sarah.
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  Speaker 3: I think Sarah should count her lucky stars. She's true down. No,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: I don't go for the hat trick. See what it
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: can do. H incredible. I think my panel bet has
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: gone off on a bender somewhere. I can't even get
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: a hold of it.
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  Speaker 4: Ara, you have not got problem.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, you're fifty k out of pocket and your car
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  Speaker 5: doesn't work, and the dealerships denying that anything untoward has
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: happened to you or the car. But Joe, Joe is
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: the one that you should be pitying.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Over the last forty eight.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Hours, we have seen an absolute master class of how
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: to handle the lefty media in Australia. This master class
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: was held by two Americans, one on Australian soil and
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: the rest via skype back home in America. The first
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: is congress Woman Marjorie Taylor Green.
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  Speaker 4: She's a big Trump supporter. She's a Republican.
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  Speaker 5: Through and through, and funnily enough, I can't believe this either.
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  Speaker 5: The ABC's Sarah fir Ferguson decided to have Marjorie on
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  Speaker 5: her show last night to talk about Julian assanj Also,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: she said, here's a little bit of how it went.
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  Speaker 5: You've never accepted the results of the twenty twenty presidential election.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed, you've lionized people for.
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  Speaker 6: Sarah, aren't we talking about Julian Assange?
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  Speaker 4: Sarah? Are you?
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  Speaker 6: Are you even as sirius or even a serious interviewer.
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  Speaker 6: I thought, we're talking about Julian Assane here today. That's
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: what you were asking me to come on to your
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Australian news show. I don't usually do interviews like this
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  Speaker 6: because people like you can't be taken seriously.
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  Speaker 5: I love it. She was basically like, I'm not playing ball.
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  Speaker 5: You asked me on to talk about Julian Assange. None
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  Speaker 5: of this has to do with Julian assangje And this
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  Speaker 5: went on for several minutes because that American woman, that
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  Speaker 5: congress woman, wasn't taking a bar of it from the
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: ABC's Ferguson just how I was earlier. We've got Tucker
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  Speaker 5: Carlson in Australia at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: As you may be aware, he was in Canberra.
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  Speaker 5: Answering some questions from the press and he was copying
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: a bit more of the same and once again showed
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  Speaker 5: us how it's done.
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: And in the past you've talked about how white Australians,
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: Americans Europeans are being replaced.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: By non white immigrants in what is often referred to
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: as the Great Replacement theory.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: This is the same I have.
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: I said that whites are being replaced. Well, I don't
• 17:31
  Speaker 8: think I said that, Well, it's been mentioned on your
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: show four thousand times, And really, when did I say
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: that on your I said whites are being replaced?
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: You have said that before?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Would challenge you to say that, because I'm pretty sure
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: I haven't said that. I said, I said native born
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: Americans have are being replaced, including blacks.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry to say it did not get any better
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: from this reporter at the AAP.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: We just met.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: But when our relationship starts with a lie, it makes
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: it tough to be friends.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been looking at.
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: That stupid in the media.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't pay well.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: How dare you try to tie me to some lunatic
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: who murdered people? How dare you actually and in fact,
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, do you know what I mean?
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: And sadly, Tucker was left with no other option to
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: conclude with this banger.
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: And I just feel sorry. I mean, because I got
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: here in the country so unbelievably beautiful and the people
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: are so cheerful and funny and cool and smart. I'm like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: your media has got to be better than ours. It
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: can't just be a bunch of castrated robots reading questions
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: from the boss and then it turns out it's exactly
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: the same, maybe even a tiny bit dumber.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Castrated robots reading questions from the boss. I didn't think
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I could love Tucker Carlson more than I already do,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: and yet that is just that is pure poetry.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I take offense to that. I am not a robot.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think you've.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Protected immediately talking about everything.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Also, it's true we should put out that interaction with
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Tucker and the journalist went for about six or seven minutes.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And Tucker started off.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Trying to be quite gracious and gentle with her, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: she just kept on going and going, and so eventually
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he didn't lose his call, but he did become quite
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: direct with her. And that's something I think that the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: American press and American politicians are far more used to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: than we are here in Australia. Same on the ABC
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: there with the Republican who pushed back on Sarah Ferguson.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Our media probably aren't that used to it, but the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Rgie bargie in America is far more prevalent.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: But our conservative politicians should do.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: More of that, call out the ideological bias of journalists
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and refused to be pushed around.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: And also, just like Marjorie Taylor Green said, you asked
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: me on your show about this thing.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm on here.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: I don't normally do these interviews, but I came on
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: the premise of this was the agreed topic. Sarah Ferguson
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: was asking her about election denial, saying what will you
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: do if Biden wins at the end of the year,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: all these ridiculous about the about the debate on Friday.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: No, you know, this is our main topic. And then
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: when you've got someone you try to ask some other stuff.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: That's clearly that clearly was have to answer it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Women laid that clear, made that clear to Sarah Ferguson.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Ferguson just rudely kept on going madam stylers.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: She held her own and you know, good on, But
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: that doesn't I don't think that you shouldn't say, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the journalists can't ask this, but can't ask that, or.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: That's not what we're saying. We're simply saying.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I love this bullshy approach by these American conservatives where
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: they're like, no, you're not going to walk her all
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: over me.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: You're not going to put Marjorie.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Taylor Green called out the bias in Sarah Ferguson's question
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: because she began the question with words the effect, you've
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: been known to deny the result of the twenty twenty
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: election so immediately, But.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Is that has has she not questioned the result of
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election? Is that not true?
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Hasn't everyone with a single firing neuro between between the ballots,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: between the midnight Come on, Joe, there is a very
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: long list now with.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton also denied the result of an election, But
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the way the question was phrased.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It was pritic clear she didn't the election. Was she
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: winged and mind about the electoral college system and said
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: it wasn't fair because she got more popular votes?
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, joke.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: In terminology are stolen election? So if you want to.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: An extremely critical of Hillary Clinton's use of I don't
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: know if she said it was stolen. I think she
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: said was she did well? Okay, fine, but.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: They all did at nauseam.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: But she she certainly winged and complained about fake news,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: and that came back to buy her on the proverbial.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: But still, anyway, let's get to something that we can
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: all agree to hate, which is these little noodle armed
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: protesters at Newcastle Port. This is a blockade. Australia have
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: been disrupting Newcastle Port for climate action and we've got
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: just a little sample of their I know that sky
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: sky viewers are incredibly sophisticated. They're very politically engaged. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: even though I think might struggle with the subtle nuance
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: of this particular protesters manifesto have a.
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: Listened blocking the world's largest coalport, currently stopping trains just shockers.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Full of coal.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I'm on a little structure.
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: I managed to hold the trains and hopefully we'll be
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: doing so for for quite some time. I want to
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: start by acknowledging the fact I will start by saying
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: I'm from Gimbangia Country. My name Sam from company can
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: Bang your country. I don't know this area too well,
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: but I'd like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of this land.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Are they the traditional custodians of the Oh it's the railway, Okay, okay.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I just love it so but you're already started. You
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: can't go. I'd like to start by like that you've
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: already started.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: That was technicality, Joe.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Secondly, did you ask the traditional custodians of the land,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: if you could go and shain yourself to their to
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: their coal trains, I think the traditional custodian of the land.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Probably would have been like, yeah, no, Actually.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Australia protest. They've done six or seven protests over the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: last three days and I think they've got a couple
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: more days of protesting to go. But a spokesperson for
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the railway said that while they have blocked the railway tracks,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: coal trains have had to remain stationary, but for technical
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: reasons they have to keep their diesel engine help and
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it estimates that they have burned one hundred and ten
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: thousand liters of fuel sitting stationary waiting.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: It makes to be growth.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So if carbon emissions cause catastrophic bushfires and we end
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: up with catastrophic bushfires, blame Blockade Australia for the one
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand liters of diesel that were burned
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: because of their protest that otherwise would not have been burglar.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: They are explaining their actions from the words of Blockade
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Australia itself quote it's because the Australian state doesn't listen
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: to us GEE. I wonder why whether it be climate change,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: whether it be the genocide occurring right now in Palestine,
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: whether it be the absurd cost of living and price
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: gouging in our supermarkets.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Okay, blockade Australia, which is it?
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Okay, just take every single lefty issue under the sun,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: smoosh them together in some amorphous blob of nothingness and
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, that's why we're stopping the coal train.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: But do you know that you know the old joke,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: if you heard the old the old joke, and everyone
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: just whole judgment for a day, and someone goes, what's
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: worse than having your lunch stolen? The Holocaust? Because the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: idea is that these two things are so grotesquely apart
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that they can't possibly be compared.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I've never heard that this guy.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Has done it. He's compared to the genocide occurring right
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: now in Palestine with price gouging at our slop market.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: So this guy like, he claims obviously to be all
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in on the next genocide. And also, why does my
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: French stick cost ninety cents more than it did last year?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And speaking of cost of bating, all these people trying
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to get to work couldn't take trains because they were
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: blockading the line they could drive.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Everyone had to drive, polluting the environment, or.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Had to catch buses, So indeed, you know they're making
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the environment worse of living. But that wasn't my favorite
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: protest from these blockade.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Oh no, the best is yet to.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The best came from a couple of elderly ladies who
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: climbed on top of a train and then thought, how
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: can we best make our points? So if people understand
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the seriousness the gravity of the climate crisis, and they
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: came up with this, stop.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: In the name of life before we break apart, Stop
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: in the name of life.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: This could be our last chance before reo.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: This coal is killing us too.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: The US.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: If the choice is global warming or those two singing,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: give me global warming any day of the week, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: hope the climate crisis come.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: On a lot of effort into that mac into that
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: no one should be allowed to protest from now on
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: unless you've got some sick beats like that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You must watch a Supremes classic in order to save
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the environment.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Why didn't break.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Why didn't that come with the trigger warning?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: How should it witch a strap? Sorry Joe?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And it didn't even rhyme, And they obviously hadn't worked
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: out the words between them Beforehandoh the name of love, the.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: New version like the lady that we were talking about
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: last night who decided to make her own version of
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: the Australian anthem. The other thing was actually, think, there's
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: sounds good.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: We don't have to take the first recording like they
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: could have gone, you know, tuneless.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: You don't know that that wasn't the best out of fifty.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I hope it was.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Probably like why did it have to be a cappella?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like there's a shortage of hippies
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: who can play the guitar.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I thought one of the ladies was trying to do harmony,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: but then I just realized, no, she was just that's right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: She was just out of tune by exactly one third.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: The passion made up for it, right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Both ladies were arrested and appeared in Newcastle Court. I'm
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: not sure what the punishment was, but I hope it
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: was we.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Know what the charge because we will be.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: I think, couldn't you just like play their song back
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to them?
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they were singing it in court and that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: what the judge would have banged the gavel on to America.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Now we're a United Airlines.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Will someone trying to board one of the United Airlines planes.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Has been told they can, in fact not bored.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: This woman was there with her toddler and her well,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: it wouldn't have been her grandmother, it would have been
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: her mother. She's trying to board, and she's told by
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: the staff, no, you may not come on board because
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: you misgendered.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: One of the staff.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Apparently one of the people on board serving customers was transgender.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Hear it herself, Well, hear it from her herself.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: This is the muffaul.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's her.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: My son and I are United Airlines waiting for a
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: flight from can Francs going to ask them, and the
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: flight attendant has denied access to us because he said
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: that id a derogatory climent about one of the hat
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: at ten minutes because they didn't use a rate pronoun
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Now there are they are forbidding us to get on
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: the plane.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I am with my son. He is twenty five pounds.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: I've been carried him for about thirty minutes. He denied
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: us boarding priority, and now they're about to deny us
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: to board the plane.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: We'll see what happens.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: The tyranny of thou shalt not question the agenda, Thou
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: shalt not question the new religion.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: You will give in too compelled speech.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: You will use pronouns that you know do not actually
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: belong to the gender that you know that person is.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: This woman was not allowed to board. She did not
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: catch that flight, and she was stuck in the airport
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: for hours with her.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Baby and her seventy five year old mother until the
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: United Airlines agreed to put her on a different flight,
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I'm assuming one without a trans hostess, and she finally
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: made it home.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Was how disgusting, I'm did she just accidentally say call
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: her him or him her or they them, or did
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: she actually say something that the.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Flight attendant was a biological man in address and the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: lady here said to the flight attendant, thank you, sir,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: at which point another flight attendant said, she's in address,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and the lady that we heard from said, you know what,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my child and my mother on
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the plane. I'm not really worried about trying to use
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: correct pronouns. It wasn't delivered nothing, thank you sir.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: She was thrown off the aircraft.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like when you jump into a
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: taxi and after you finally hailed right down and you
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: jump thanks mate, and then you look over and it's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: a woman driver.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Next minute, and.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So totally.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: But you know, maybe this explains why United are so
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: firm on this. Have a look at United CEO Scott
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Kirby recently performing as part of a drag routine.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: So that explains why they were so triggered.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Pronoun that's cultural appropriation, Like that's not even proper drag.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's like the end of season footy party's drag it up. No, no,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: they're not putting his effort into it. If you're gonna
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: wear drag properly, you've got to at least like try
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: to act and move and sing and talk like a
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: woman like he just got on the full forward something
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: from Melbourne.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I know that that is not his best drag,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: but certainly it does explain why you now have an
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: entire airline that is literally enforcing this mac It's like
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: you cannot even board a plane because you accidentally called
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: someone sir. Now, the woman never denied or confirmed whether
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: she'd intentional done it, but like you say, she was
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: just like sorry, I'm just trying.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: To get everyone on board this plane.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to find our seats, etc. Not my first
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: priority at the moment, and that got her thrown off.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: We talk about the thought police, we talk about compelled speech,
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: freedom of speech. This is a hair raising case of
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: you got one word wrong and you're thrown off a flight.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And according to news reports, United initially said no, no, it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: was because you had excess luggage that we put you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: off the floor, and they denied it had anything to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: do with the misgendering. Only later did they agree to that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But the flight took off, leaving this mum and her child,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: all their bags and medication for the grandmother were all
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on the plane. That all disappeared and they were left
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: standing there because, as you said, they refused to buy
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: into the whole gender theory. Let's go to Victoria where
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a debate over whether or not
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the Lord's Prayer should be said at the at the
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: start of parliament. Now, aside from in the Act, every
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: parliament around the country begins sitting days with the Lord's Prayer.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And we all know what's happened to the Act since
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: they stopped saying the prayer. In nineteen ninety or five decriminalized.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: We've been smitherowin Ice.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You can decide whether there's any connection. But the Victorian Premier.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Just sent to Allen.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: She said earlier this year that because of Victoria's diversity,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: they should look again at parliamentary traditions, i e. Whether
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: they should continue with the Christian Lord's Prayer based on
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the fact that presumably there are so many new immigrants
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: in the state. Leaving aside the fact that most new
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: immigrants coming to Australia are highly religious people, many of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: them Christians, and a couple of labor MPs have set
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: out the Lord's Prayer recently because they didn't like what
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the Pope said about surrogacy, which surprised me because I
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: didn't realize when you pray the Lord's Prayer you're praying.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: To the Pope.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I thought it was that, oh, yeah, to God. But
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: anyway they're going to because.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: The Catholic Church's complicated.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: The Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne has organized a petition of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: over ten thousand people, which if presented to Parliament as
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: it has been, means there must be a debate on
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the subject. So next month Parliamentarians in Victoria will debate
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: whether or not the Lord's Prayer, which is a one
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: hundred year tradition in this country, should continue to be.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Said in the act. Is they got rid of the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Lord's prayer? They have a moment of private reflection.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: It doesn't say you've done much to it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Firstly, I was surprised to learn that Victoria still had this.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: They keep trying the government and I'm kind of like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: clearly it's not working anyway.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: So you know what, just dit shit.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Because God's not fooled by a pile of godless people
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: going through the motions means absolutely nothing to him. Okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: so unless you do mean it, you're wasting his time
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: and your breath.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I think you're wasting time though, how absolutely bare of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: any real problems or any sense of priority would you
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: be to even consider this? Now I've worked, I've worked
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: in partiment for many years' work news to have wild
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: apartment for many years. The preer. No one notices the prayer.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: It's not being done during question time or a time
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: when anyone is paying the remotest amount of attention to Parliament.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: It's a mere formality. People don't have to say it
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: if they don't want to. They you know, some might
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: sort of mumble at Most people don't even pay any
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: attention to it. Most people probably aren't even in the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Parliament at the time, and so you know, it means
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: absolutely nothing to anyone. There might be some people in
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: a department for whom it means a whole lot and
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: they take it really seriously. But again for someone to
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: just suddenly say, let's make this issue number one, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: the Greens used to do this all the time in
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: federal apartment. You know, I don't have any yarns here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Come back from the Christmas break, Oh we'll go to
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: band the Lord's Prayer And that was and that was
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Richard di Natali, the most sensible Green wanted to do.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It should bring a level of comfort that our politicians,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: before they make decisions, take a moment to acknowledge they
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: are not the highest authority.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: But they're not acknowledging it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: They don't mean it. They're not acknowledging it. Like I say,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: God's not do they acknowledge it or not?
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: At least the words they've got to say something, they're
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: not said by them.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: As as I used to work in wa Parliament, for
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: many years and the same goes there.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Well, people aren't actually praying.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: It, mag.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: But also I think, can I just make it clear though,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I do actually think they should abolish it. I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: they should abolish the Lord's prayer that they say in
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Parliament beginning and replace it with a Catholics Lord Prayer,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: which should have made all along, because they're seeing a
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: botty Lord prayer in Parliament. Where that gets you? Ont purgatory, buddy,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: get out of it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: We don't even believe in purgatory.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: God is waiting decision maker than that it's heaven or hell. Baby,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: you guys, there's a waiting room, and then you can.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Still do some negotiation nonsense.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to continue the theological argument and the break.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break right now. But
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers. That's coming up in just a moment.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: All right, let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, Liz,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you kick it off for us.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: To the ANTENUS defending from above drones aircraft descend or
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Northern Territory. The first of all one billion Defense Force
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: babies has arrived in the Northern Territory, Australia's first MQ
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: four C Triton has arrived at the RUBAF base Tindall
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: and ears in the process of being prepared for formal
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: delivery to Defense. It comes as the Northern Territory prepares
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: to host the biggest flying activity in Air Force history.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: In the twenty twenty four iteration of.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Exercise pitch Black, whoever comes up with these names, well done.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: It sounds so epic. But look, unless we have drones.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Unless we have drones, we're dead in the water. You
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: guys must have seen the footage by now of the
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: war in Ukraine where you've got drones taking out full
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: on tanks, the little pee wee fifties.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: They look like toy helicopters.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Tank warfare is over, it's done, it's dusted. And how
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: long before those same drones can bring down a flip
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: and aircraft if they can't already?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Seriously, the warfare of the future drone will.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Be fourd.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah it is.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: It is incredible.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: So I love getting excited about new defense presies, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: at the same time, having seen the carnage that these
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: drones can do, I'm just like, all you need is drones.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Therones, the drones that the article speaks of US surveillance drones.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I think we've got some footage to show them. They're
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: worth a billion dollars each. But we will drones long
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: range surveillance, particularly to the north of Australia. Well you
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: know that's where the enemy would come from. And so
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: those are the drones. But the ones you're speaking.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Of, Liz, I want the blowing up one.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Well, the Australian government has got in development those kinds
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of drones which.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: In development sounds like decades away.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: They can hop for thirty minutes with a lethal payload,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and that they expect them to be delivered by the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: end of the year.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Will get your lethal drones lives, don't I'm.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Being serious guys, these things.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Everything else is useless. Okay, we just need the firing drone.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: In the Red Sea.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: You've got the Houthi rebels using drones to attack warships.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, they can bring down ships.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That I haven't seen one of the because we have
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: no defense on our naval vessels against drones.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: We do have a defense white paper though so very
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: held lots of submarines and so I was very body.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Do you know, fun fact, do you know why Pearl
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Harbor happened? Or probably why One of the reasons why
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: it happened.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: Because they met Ganks needed to join them war and
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: they need no, no.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: No, it was not an inside job. I know you guys.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Commander meant to be doing area surveillance
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: look after and he thought it's just a waste of time,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and so they just can't. They did take a very
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: northerly route, so they went way out of where that
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: came from. But the guy was just not sending planes
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: in the air, so he was quite remorseful after that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Probably needed a coffee.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: They probably did need coffee, but not Peter mallanows because
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: he's getting his check this out seven cups a day,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: says the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser. The premier's quote,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: shameful secret addiction to coffee. It's not secret anymore, is
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: it made. It's out in the open in public again.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Look what my name is, Peter, and I'm a coffee.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: That headache he's got it is not from a lack
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of coffee. It's from the hospital and ambulance ramping problem.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's headache.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: That is, that is one headache, But seven does seem
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying coffee is a gateway drug. So what
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: else is he on he's.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Addicted to this, he'd be tapping the liptuns.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: I just.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I'm serious.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you, this is a journal, Joe. Do
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: people appreciate stuff like this? On the front page of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the paper when I mentioned the hospital system that's a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: massive controversy in South Australia, people are really yeah, they'll
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: be all overund that the premiere on there talking about
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: how much coffee he has.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: People look at that and think dud.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Just the truth is, it's a very sad and difficult truth.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: But the truth is there is simply not enough news
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in Australia to stay. That's media in Australia, which.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Is why the other half is a massive ad.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: That is why I started my own podcast because that
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: was like the kind of name. But yeah, seven cups
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: of that that does seem to me to be a lot.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like a two cup of days. I'm a two
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: cup streamer.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I barely have one to day. I always
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: been a tea person.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: The worst part about it. Read the article.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: He goes on to blame his wife introducing him to
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: and it's instant coffee too, which is I knew it.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: I've always thought that it is just place ebo and
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: it only works on weak minds. You know, there's people
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: who are like, oh, I can't function without my coffee.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Think of the functioning my whole life without it?
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Like it seems to me more of a ritualistic thing
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: that people.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Do in the morning.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: That's real. Are you a morning person coffee? Do you
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: get up out of bed? No? No, well maybe you
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: should try coffee.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: That's kind The front page of the Herald Sun, the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: headline reads UNI's threat to protesters.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: This is interesting.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't think the unions were bothered by protesters at all.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Melbourne, who knew you had it? En?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Students from Fort Melbourne universities are facing expulsion after attending
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: pro Palestinian protests. The University of Melbourne has issued academic
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: misconduct notices to pro Palestine protesters who occupied a major
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: arts building in May. Now That building was occupied for
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: ten days, causing thousands of other students to have to
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: have classes canceled or rescheduled. The University of Melbourne have
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: sent an email on Wednesday to students involved in that protest.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Email included CCTV stills then protesting in the building and
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: dates for a misconduct hearing. So we'll wait to see
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: just how serious the university is about that. Only ten
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: students have been called out, but Monash, Deacon and Latrov
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Universities have apparently sent similar misconduct letters to students there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: So never that was my university, Melbourne University when I
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: was there as a young, rebellious rat bag student socialist.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I'm very embarrassed went the universe.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: But they did, they did a similar thing I was.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I was actually the I was the media. I think
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: it was a media and police the aison officer for
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: their last or the occupation they did in the nineteen
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: nineties when I then operated the admin building occupied the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: admin building it's called the Redmond Barry Building, and I
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: wasn't particularly particularly persuaded by that way to go. And
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: then I noticed them started they started just like ripping
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: up books and files and paper and they started throwing
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: stuff out that you know, I'm like, are we like
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: just kind of burning books? Now? Is this? Where?
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Is this?
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: What were they trying to achieve by this.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: What was that they were opposed to either voluntary student
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: unions or upfront fees or both.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It was always one of the the cost of living
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: and supermarket price gouging.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: And genocide and supermarket price gouges.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: That annoyed me most about these university protests is they
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: happened in America. First, we all watched it on our
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: TV screens, everybody, Mark Scott at Sydney University, all the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: vice chancellors at the Melbourne universities, they all saw what
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was going to happen. We watched it in America, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: then they sat back and did nothing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: All the whole thing played out here.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: It wasn't quite like like I know Mark Scott and
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I know that the team at Sydney and it wasn't
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that they didn't want to do anything, or
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: that they approved or anything like that. It was more
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: sort of they need firstly, they needed to like with
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Melbourne unything right that you basically needed a reason to
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: move them.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: They need definition.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and we actually asked for one, I know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: And it's hard and again because you've got people say
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: we all know what rip from the river to the
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: sea means and how that might intimidate a Jewish person,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: but again proving that in the court of law you
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: wanted to hurt this person is.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: In the court of law, they have a code of conduct,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: so they have.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: A code of kind of that's right, but even arguing
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: that the bridge god to conduct, which is why Melbourne
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Universe has been able to act, because they obstructed other
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: students from learning, physically obstructed other students from learning and
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: going about their business, so they didn't get The encampment
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: made people feel very uncomfortable, but it didn't actually obstructive.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: People from going to class because they couldn't go through
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: there without being harassed.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: That's right, well, but not as explicitly as occupying an
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: actual building, So I gave them firm grounds anyway, with
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the encampment, I believe what they've done. I hope this
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: is not exclusive. I'm letting out of the bag. But
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: they've now booted them off because they're disrupting planned activities
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: in where they were. So the Union basically said, we're
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: planning on doing this thing here, you are now obstructing that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: There you go alcapar and tax evasion off.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, common our little committee and help us
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: decide who we give grants to and why we do
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: deals with.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we're going to go to a break when we
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump trolling Joe Biden ahead of tomorrow's presidential debate.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. We'll show you in a second.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Well, the first US presidential debate is on tomorrow. You
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: can watch it on Sky News at eleven am. Donald
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Trump posted a great video on his social media today
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: outlining the difference that the two presidents have and the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: choice that Americans will have to make.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Never before has a simple video Joe speak, such a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: massive difference between two men.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: That's your choice right there.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I know, but come on, like Joe Bine, he fell
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: down those stairs like yongs Ago. Can't they get a
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: more recent pick of him falling down the stairs?
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Well, so many they couldn't do the whole mash up,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: though there was a time for it. It's an act
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: to make it as short as possible.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: They're an amazing thing. I don't know if you've said
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: on light, but if you put Donald Trump talking against
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the Seinfeld soundtrack, it's just amazing stand up comedy does
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: amazing thing. I don't like those little you know, there's
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: got this cardboard straws anymore, and you tried to put
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: them in having to the plastic straws. There was so much.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Do thing I love.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: That's the greatest show.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: No words required.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Those two images thic silence, not even a one.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump, he can walk.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: CNN will be hosting this debate, which most people on
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Trump's side is having a bit of a laugh about,
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: because we know them to be the mainstream media, the
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: fake news, the perpetrators of a pile of sludge, regarding
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: him as much as they can manufacture, and yet all
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: the terms have been set by the Biden administration. He
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: is an AI video. To be clear, this is a
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: spoof of Jake Tapper of CNN explaining the rules of
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: tomorrow's debate.
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: I'd like to set the ground rules to this debate.
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: First off, Biden is allowed to speak whenever he wishes.
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: We will have commercial breaks whenever Biden feels the urge
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: so that his needs can be taken care of. This
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: may or may not include naps, energy boosts.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Or a snack such as ice cream.
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: On the other hand, Trump is not allowed to speak
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: unless spoken to and if he interrupts, Joe speaking, We're
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: automatically going to deduct ten points from Trump and Door.
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: As the hall moderator of this debate, I can call
• 48:47
  Speaker 10: it off at any moment and declare it a complete
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: victory for Biden. Where did Trump go?
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: He was just clear?
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: The best thing I saw on the internet today.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, everyone knows it's not rigged, but it already is.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: I'm convinced we're going to see the Manhattan Project of
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: pharmaceutical stimulants on full display show.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: As I said, you can watch at eleven am tomorrow
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: on Sky. That's it from us. The ground. Coming up
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: is the Reader Penney Show.