Latest / Barber Cuts: Beats and Bars / Original Pirate Material - The Streets
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- 0:15Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beads and Vars.
- 0:17We're a father to daughter music podcast that slices into some of
- 0:20the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, writing favorites and
- 0:30skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hey everyone, I'm Riley.
- 0:41And I'm Todd and welcome to this week's version edition episode
- 0:46of Barber Cuts. This week we are doing maybe one
- 0:52of our better named albums, original pirate material.
- 0:56This is a great named album by the Streets.
- 1:00And so just in case you didn't listen, The Streets is Auk band,
- 1:07hip hop, something like that. Not all.
- 1:11Garage music. Pop garage music.
- 1:14It's garage. Something unless so.
- 1:17You're from the UK and the next Garage Music.
- 1:19Garage. Hello.
- 1:22We're talking music. I've got to work on our accents.
- 1:27So Riley, let's jump into it. Yeah, least favorites.
- 1:32What are your least favorites? My least favorites were Has it
- 1:37Come to This? It was very repetitive and so
- 1:41that just kind of got annoying to me.
- 1:45It just something that was kind of unique to a lot of these
- 1:48songs is the beat was very unique and the flow of it was
- 1:54also very unique. And so for this one to just be
- 1:56so repetitive, it just kind of got annoying and.
- 2:01Old which that's strange because this is Spotify stream wise,
- 2:04their most popular one, and it's the the one that kind of made
- 2:08him blow up. Yeah.
- 2:11My my theory behind that is that it's it's the most generalizable
- 2:17among audiences. Like it has more singing, the
- 2:21flow follows the beat a little bit more than normal.
- 2:24Like it's more acceptable to a lot of people's ears.
- 2:30I just thought that when compared to the rest of the
- 2:33album, that kind of diluted the charm of his album.
- 2:36Whether? Or not.
- 2:37Even if you did like it, I just kind of diluted that charm that
- 2:41he has. Yeah.
- 2:44I can see, but that's, that's my theory for why it's like the
- 2:46biggest one on the album. And then my other least favorite
- 2:50was Geezers Need Excitement. That's probably just 'cause I
- 2:53don't understand British slang. And so it kept making me laugh
- 2:57instead of like sound like, I think he was trying to sound
- 3:00like hard, you know? And to me it's like, you sound
- 3:02goofy. But the part of that is like, I
- 3:04don't have, I don't do UK slang. Yeah.
- 3:08I don't either, so it just kind of kept going over my head what
- 3:11he was saying and making me laugh because the word geezer is
- 3:14funny. I agree.
- 3:15So it's funny to hear in like a hard rap song.
- 3:19So every time he kept throwing that one out or like, Loke, I'd
- 3:21be like, what are we doing? Where did this come from?
- 3:25And, and best I could tell, like I, I did the same thing like,
- 3:28and, and I guess before we started, we should have said
- 3:31like, obviously we are not British.
- 3:34So much mini, all of the lyrics, some of the pronunciation like
- 3:40garage, like that one took me for a bit.
- 3:43Garage, garage, you know, and, and all the subversion and
- 3:48different things that are British humor we're going to
- 3:51miss. So apologies in advance.
- 3:55So we're it's going to be lost on us.
- 3:57But I would say that those are my 2 least favorites.
- 4:01Yeah, and I can see that. So my least favourites.
- 4:07Who dares wins? OK.
- 4:11And it it's, you know, toward the end of the album, it's like
- 4:1534 seconds. Yeah.
- 4:17And as I was sitting there listening to it, seems like it
- 4:19just got cut off. And I'm like, OK, was this
- 4:23something? And obviously it was
- 4:25intentional, but it seems like it's short and just missed it
- 4:28and almost like it blended right into the next the next song, the
- 4:32the last one and then the other one least favorite was too much
- 4:39Brandy. It wasn't much a fan of the beat
- 4:43and it was one of more of the simple sounding songs, you know,
- 4:50especially with the the way the chorus sounded.
- 4:53So just those were my 2 least favorites.
- 4:57So favorite 2. So my favorite two were who got
- 5:03the funk and don't mug yourself. OK.
- 5:07These were the two that as I listened to them, they kept
- 5:12growing on me. They were more pleasant to
- 5:15listen to in the background, like the way it sounded was nice
- 5:19and the way they sounded were still unique and like fit within
- 5:24the streets, kind of like the way their sound works.
- 5:30I don't have much for lyrics this time.
- 5:32If you even if you read like his little excerpt on the streets
- 5:36like their self, they say that it's wrapped up in like UK slang
- 5:41and UK like media. Like it's talking about stuff
- 5:44that happened in the UK in like the nineties, 2000s era.
- 5:49So I wasn't even alive for the 90s, these early 2000s, so I
- 5:54certainly wasn't aware of what's happening over there at the UK.
- 5:57The lyrics kind of all, I can't really make sense of them past
- 6:02the point of like the basic song.
- 6:05So there's nothing like truly insightful.
- 6:08Like I know there probably is stuff, but I can't catch on to
- 6:11it. And I think that's part of what
- 6:13makes his music neat in its own way is that it is kind of for
- 6:20them, It's, it's specialized to that little area.
- 6:24And he made it specialized to that area.
- 6:26Like he wasn't trying to go big. It doesn't seem like, I mean, I
- 6:30know if he was trying to go big, you change your sound.
- 6:33Like you see British artists that don't sound British anymore
- 6:37when they sing and they change their voice and stuff like that.
- 6:40And he did not do that. He went full force into it.
- 6:43And these were two of the songs that I think just fit well into
- 6:46the sound and kept growing on me.
- 6:48And I played one of them. I played Don't Mug Yourself for
- 6:52my friend Kate, as we were like getting ready to go do
- 6:55something. And it's kind of fun.
- 6:58Like when you're listening to it, like laughing with a friend
- 7:02and having fun. Like it is kind of fun to.
- 7:04Listen to. You and just enjoy and not like
- 7:06have to listen to you closely or take seriously like it is just
- 7:09kind of fun. Music in its way.
- 7:12Which is what garage music is supposed to be like.
- 7:15It's. That fun be.
- 7:17Yeah, it's like I I made a note when on who got the funk.
- 7:21It's like, huh, there's a random funk track on this album.
- 7:27Yeah, it's like, all right, I'll take it.
- 7:29And it's what I'm. Yet the album pulled up on
- 7:32Spotify minute, 50 seconds long, and it's not very big on the.
- 7:37It's just random. If I remember correctly, it
- 7:40didn't have much of A chorus. Like it was just a couple lyrics
- 7:44here and there, but nothing special.
- 7:45It was just more about the funk sound and beat.
- 7:48And then they went on to the next one.
- 7:52You know, the irony of it all, which was a funny song, but you
- 7:57know, still. But yeah, I admired the random
- 8:02random funk song in the middle of the album.
- 8:05Yeah, I he he seemed to very much just do what sounded nice
- 8:11to him. And.
- 8:13Be OK with that? Yeah, whatever it turned to.
- 8:16So what? About you.
- 8:17So my two favorite was the let's push things forward.
- 8:25And so again, I like like the message over all of the whole
- 8:29thing. It's like if you don't like
- 8:31something, then quit doing it over and over again, which is
- 8:34nice, especially you haven't hit there yet.
- 8:38But you know, 20 ish 5 too many years into my career.
- 8:45You know, you hear the well, that's the way we've always done
- 8:48it. Line thrown out way too many
- 8:50times. This is like anti that line.
- 8:54You know, in there it says the chorus, you say that everything
- 8:59sounds. I mean he's specifically writing
- 9:00about before I say the lyric about music.
- 9:03So evidently he was picking up on the culture and people
- 9:07talking about it. But he says the lyric, you say
- 9:10that everything sounds the same, then you go buy them.
- 9:13Like you're just reinforcing it. Like, if you don't like it, quit
- 9:16buying it, you know, and. And that lyric was was one of my
- 9:21favorites. Like it, it's that one
- 9:25specifically can be generalized to almost everything of like,
- 9:28OK, you say that, you say you hate that type of person, then
- 9:31why are you supporting them? You say you hate doing this, so
- 9:34why are you doing it? And it's like always, it's
- 9:37always people trying to be different and then wanting what
- 9:40they want in the secret. Like it's almost like him saying
- 9:42like, I'd rather you say you hate my music and not buy it and
- 9:46go buy that generalized stuff and say, oh, I love your music,
- 9:49not the pop culture. And like then just go and buy
- 9:51the pop culture. Right.
- 9:53Exactly. I think that's like always going
- 9:55to be true. So it's just the lyric that like
- 9:57is timeless. Right.
- 9:59And anything, yeah. And I think it, and I think it
- 10:02fit here too, because from, from the stuff that I've researched,
- 10:07tried to figure out about the Straits, because, you know,
- 10:10yeah, I'd, I'd never listened to them before until this album.
- 10:16And this was fairly new to what was going on in the British,
- 10:23whatever you want to call it, garage underground hip hop scene
- 10:27over there. So he was, he was really, as it
- 10:31were, to borrow another cliche, you know, putting his money
- 10:34where his mouth was, you know, and then saying, OK, let's,
- 10:37let's do this. And then my other one was
- 10:42actually right after that one. So 3 and 4, ironically, so sharp
- 10:46darts. And the first thing on sharp
- 10:48darts that I guess made me like it and then keep going back to
- 10:52it was it sounded so much like the Beastie Boys.
- 10:57Yeah, I noticed that on a few. You know, and, and so even like
- 11:02one of the, the couple of the lyrics in there, it's like I
- 11:05walk the beat like a policeman, like, OK, that's clever, you
- 11:10know, and then there's lots in this song, there's lots of
- 11:13pauses in the beat. And then he comes in with the
- 11:15lyric, you know, or you got a, a lyric where it's no beat
- 11:20whatsoever. When he, when he, when he
- 11:22delivers the lyric, you know, there's another funny one in
- 11:27there that's like, he's like, do you understand or do you need an
- 11:30interpreter? I'm like.
- 11:32Oh yeah, where it's like the. Because that reminds me like,
- 11:36you know, again, in my career, hey, let's send out an e-mail to
- 11:40everybody telling them that e-mail is not working.
- 11:43Like that line to me. Is that like, do you understand
- 11:46or do you need an interpreter? Well, and then it's a reference
- 11:50back to a line from my other favorite song, the let's let's
- 11:54push things forward about sharp darts in there, you know?
- 11:58And then ultimately it it's seems like it's a song talking
- 12:01about just how good he is at what he does, which, OK, yeah,
- 12:05there's a brag song in there, which which then as you start to
- 12:09realize that makes it even kind of funnier.
- 12:11Those are my 2 sharp darts and let's push things forward.
- 12:15Very nice, I was just going to ask your thoughts on the
- 12:18outcome. I think this is the most out
- 12:21there album that we've listened to thus far.
- 12:24It was definitely, you know, so when the turn the page is the is
- 12:31the intro song or first song of the of the album and it started
- 12:37going again. When I first started, I was not
- 12:39expecting the British accent any of that.
- 12:43So I, I went in unbeknownst to me and like, OK, let me hit
- 12:49pause for a second and regroup because it wasn't what I was
- 12:52expecting. And so, you know, when that
- 12:54happens, you tend to initial, you know, put up some initial
- 12:59first thoughts. And I was like, OK, I don't want
- 13:01those clouding when I start to think of it because my first
- 13:06thoughts in it were like, OK, this seems like it's just using
- 13:13a beat machine or, you know, the free beats that you can get from
- 13:17Garage Band or Audacity or something like that and putting
- 13:22them together and then, you know, doing some rap lyrics on
- 13:26top of it. I knew that wasn't the case.
- 13:29Like I knew there's talent there.
- 13:30So I didn't want to, I didn't want to general generalize it
- 13:33down to just that. And so, because at first glance,
- 13:37I'm like, OK, this isn't that complex, but oh boy, is it,
- 13:42especially if you are listening to it from outside the UK out,
- 13:47you know, and and trying to figure out what some of the
- 13:50lyrics are. It was, you know, very British
- 13:54Annunciation, the accent. And so often times things came
- 13:58across as offbeat because I guess of the such a, the proper
- 14:05British way of pronunciations. He was trying to fit everything
- 14:09in. And with American rap, we often
- 14:13like cut off words and it's OK and.
- 14:16Yeah. He wasn't.
- 14:18He didn't seem to do that much at all.
- 14:21So it's different, definitely a different kind of rap and
- 14:24different kind of beat. I was also very caught off guard
- 14:28with like the first song. Like I said, the more I listen
- 14:32to the more it grew on me just like listening to throughout the
- 14:36week. But whenever I like first listen
- 14:41to it, I was so caught off guard.
- 14:42I was like, why is this on our like album chart?
- 14:45I like could not figure it out because it's just not what you
- 14:48would expect. So I I looked it up and then it
- 14:52like hit me that like this was game changing in the UK.
- 14:57This like if you. Look up, that's what I gather
- 15:00too. Yeah, if you look up the list of
- 15:02the people that's inspired by the streets in the UK, it's like
- 15:06every artist he broke in through the scene of like hip hop,
- 15:11garage music, like house music. He like developed his like own
- 15:17type of flow that's very unique to him in in being offbeat and
- 15:22not quite hitting it perfectly. And the more that I listen to
- 15:27it, it's I'll be, I'll be honest, and I don't mean this as
- 15:31an insult. It's difficult to listen to
- 15:34because of the dissonance because we're especially in
- 15:38America, I don't know if it's everywhere, but especially in
- 15:40America with rapping such like a big genre, we're very used to
- 15:45like having to hit like perfectly on the beat or like
- 15:49very intentionally doing it every once in a while so it
- 15:51sounds nicer. And the flow matters so much
- 15:55that it's difficult to listen to someone doing it not that way,
- 16:00right? But it's also, in its own way,
- 16:03makes you want to listen more, right?
- 16:05And he seems to have a lot more to say than average musicians.
- 16:11I read something that I liked how it was worded is like a lot
- 16:15of rap is very in your face and like, I'm the best and no one
- 16:19else has done it, like me. Like Eminem saying like there
- 16:22wouldn't be this controversy without me.
- 16:24Like that whole thing is like, usually when you deal with stuff
- 16:28like that, you're very in your face.
- 16:30And he seemed to do it. Mike Skinner is who I'm talking
- 16:33about, the rapper for Streets. He did it, they said in a way
- 16:37that was very humble and recognized like that he was
- 16:41bringing it from ground up. Like in the like the song that
- 16:46you were talking about where it's like you say they're, you
- 16:49say you hate them and then you go and buy them.
- 16:51So like what he kind of talks about like, no, I, I made this,
- 16:54but like I'm still working on it.
- 16:56Like he talks about it very humbly and just talks very real
- 17:01and like makes it fit instead of trying to figure out these fancy
- 17:05words. And so it's almost more
- 17:06approachable in that way. Right, Yeah, yeah.
- 17:09And it, it almost, you know, you almost get the sense that like
- 17:14everybody that we've that we've listened to so far and probably
- 17:17probably everybody else, like they're musicians and they write
- 17:21about things. You you almost get the and, and
- 17:25this is a compliment. You almost get the sense that he
- 17:29was just an average Joe that then figured out how to be a
- 17:34musician and write about the stuff that the average British
- 17:38person is going through at the time.
- 17:41And that that that truly is a compliment.
- 17:43Because it, it seemed that the lyrics and the way of life and
- 17:49the, the, the storytelling and things that he was doing were
- 17:54just top notch. And again, a lot of that's lost
- 17:57on us because we don't quite know what was going on at that
- 18:02particular time. But it's definitely something
- 18:05that that everywhere that you look as you start to really
- 18:07like, OK, this did a lot for the music scene at that particular
- 18:12time. And like, like you said it, it's
- 18:15a very eclectic mix of music that he's got going on here.
- 18:18So like it's it's called some alternative hip hop and and that
- 18:23that part is there and as and as and is the most obvious, but yet
- 18:28it's electronic house pop dance all in in one random funk song,
- 18:36all mixed together in each song, which is really neat.
- 18:40And it, and like you said, it's, it's hard to listen to it first,
- 18:44but I think, I think I got used to it in quotes here pretty
- 18:50quickly. And so every time I listen to it
- 18:52again, it it got more normalized, I guess is a good
- 18:58word to say to where I didn't notice the oddities that my
- 19:04American years were hearing at the very beginning.
- 19:07Yeah. I think also a few things that's
- 19:11good to mention is 1 some of like the people that he
- 19:14references as inspiration, like Wu Tang Clan is the big one that
- 19:19like I can perfectly understand from listening to just this
- 19:23album is like, I mean, Wu Tang Clan was also like not
- 19:29everyone's favorite. Like it became like this, this
- 19:32cult classic. That was another lyric that I
- 19:34liked. He was like he kept talking
- 19:36about how he was a cult classic, not a hit.
- 19:39And like it's, it's very much like he knew what he was doing.
- 19:43And it almost seems as if he knew that like this wasn't music
- 19:47that you're just supposed to listen to and shuffle randomly
- 19:50pop up like it was for a specific time, a specific
- 19:54feeling, a specific area. And like, if you didn't, if you
- 19:59weren't a part of that, that's not he wasn't making the music
- 20:01for you. You don't have to like it.
- 20:03Like it was a lot more for the party in the background that you
- 20:06can't really hear anything and getting ready and it being on
- 20:09the background. Or it was for the UK youth that
- 20:15was experiencing the things that he was experiencing and felt
- 20:18overlooked, like it was for these people in this type of
- 20:23area, not for everyone. It's not meant to be
- 20:26international, it's not meant to be a hit.
- 20:28It's not meant to be just on shuffle like it.
- 20:31It's meant for something. Which is.
- 20:34Hard to do. Yeah, and he and he did it very
- 20:37well, all things considered. From, from what it sounds like
- 20:41both of us has read and it's and it's like he took the, the
- 20:46portions of what he was listening to and what he was
- 20:50inspired by and, and Wu Tang Clan is one that he mentioned,
- 20:53you know that the specifically he notes US East Coast rap and
- 21:01he's like, OK, I like what they're doing lyrically because
- 21:05they're telling stories. So he took that aspect, combined
- 21:09it with the garage beats that were going on in UK that was
- 21:14popular and was like, I'm going to mesh these two things
- 21:18together. And then like you said, then OK,
- 21:22I'm going to write about I, I guess it's the, I guess he's a
- 21:26Birmingham native. I think is, if I'm going off
- 21:29memory, maybe it's not burning it.
- 21:32Birmingham, Birmingham native that was moved to London, you
- 21:40know, and, and so he, he was rapping and putting in lyrics
- 21:45that like only people and certain things in England would
- 21:49know about and completely understand.
- 21:53Yeah, specifically people that have similar life experiences to
- 21:57him, which is even even cooler. I also think it reminds me of
- 22:04like as an artist, there's there's a famous quote that a
- 22:08lot of artists use and it's like the worst artist copy, but the
- 22:11best artist steal. Because like the whole point of
- 22:14art is to be inspired and to inspire others.
- 22:17Like if you're making art to not mean anything, you're not making
- 22:22art, even if the meaning is just to make someone feel happier.
- 22:27Like I mean, we're prettier or whatever.
- 22:30If you don't, if it doesn't have some meaning deep down, you're
- 22:33not making art, you're making a picture.
- 22:36That's like the rule, one-on-one that you learn in art or
- 22:40whatever. And it's artists like this in
- 22:43the music world that remind me that like that goes past just
- 22:47visual art. All artists were inspired.
- 22:50And like if you track it back, you can track it back to like
- 22:53the earliest musicians like Bach and Mozart and musicians before
- 22:57that and before that and before that, like everyone was inspired
- 23:01by something. And so everyone is going to be
- 23:03inspired by something, and so he did that beautifully.
- 23:09And doesn't even mention, doesn't even mention in some of
- 23:12those where he's talking about like I'll take your samples and
- 23:15you won't even know I'm sampling you and stuff like that.
- 23:19Like. He's just to your point where
- 23:20you're talking about that. I was like, Oh yeah.
- 23:23So you're telling everybody you're just going to steal it
- 23:25and swipe it and sample it, you know?
- 23:27That's what I mean. Like that's kind of what you
- 23:30want. Like, no, no, that's to your
- 23:32point, yeah. Yeah, it's, that's how you
- 23:36learn. That's like, if you look at
- 23:38anything that I drew growing up, it looks like something someone
- 23:41else drew because I was trying to learn what parts I liked and
- 23:45what parts they didn't. And now like all of my stuff, I
- 23:48can point back like, oh, I draw the nose that way because I
- 23:51wanted it to look like this person's style.
- 23:53And I drew. I paint this way because I like
- 23:56how it looks like this person's style, but you don't do it to
- 23:59the point where it's copying. You just steal bits and pieces
- 24:03and take them and make them your.
- 24:04Own right, and I think that's beautifully and I think that's
- 24:07the that's the part furthering your point.
- 24:09You're you're taking lyrics from here and and the beat and the
- 24:14storytelling from the US rap and the beats that everybody is
- 24:19comfortable with in the UK at the time and meld them together
- 24:24and make your own, you know. So again, just what you were
- 24:27talking about you, you still won shading technique girl one this,
- 24:33you know, in in the drawing world.
- 24:35And next thing you know, you've got your own style, but really
- 24:38it's just a borrowing, stealing, manipulating from all these
- 24:44other styles that you like. Oh, I like that.
- 24:46Oh, I like that, you know, and I can do it and.
- 24:49It's hard to do well. It's hard to do without it
- 24:52sounding exactly. Like something else?
- 24:56Or looking exactly like something else.
- 24:57So that's like me saying that he's taking things from other
- 25:00people is like the biggest compliment I can give from one
- 25:02artist to another, even if it's different levels of art.
- 25:05And it's an art. And again, to have it sound like
- 25:10your own. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 25:13What he's done, you know, and and to be fair, what a lot of
- 25:17these artists do, you know, they they they all have influences.
- 25:21Sometimes the influencers are stronger than others, you know,
- 25:26definitely. I, I mean, I'm, I'm going to
- 25:29say, you know, I didn't know The Streets was on our list, but I
- 25:34would almost venture that there's probably not another UK
- 25:39hip hop rap group on our list. I could be surprised.
- 25:45I could be too. But just because I didn't
- 25:48realize this one was there, but I think I remember seeing Wu
- 25:52Tang as one that we'll get to eventually and send some others
- 25:56from the US side of things. But yeah, it you know, one of
- 26:00the things that I that that I think he did also very well was
- 26:06and and we've talked about it, his music was something that
- 26:11that again, people at that time could relate to because he was
- 26:16just telling a story like, Hey, this is what we do, you know,
- 26:19and mentioned earlier the the irony of it all, even some other
- 26:24songs. Don't Mug Yourself is a good
- 26:26story about, you know, him trying to strike up a
- 26:29relationship, I guess. And then best I could tell,
- 26:33Don't Mug yourself is like, don't be an idiot.
- 26:39He's just telling stories that it seemed like common people
- 26:43would just really relate to. Yeah, and did you did you catch
- 26:49just how awesome his the album name is?
- 26:53What do you mean? So this is one I thought the
- 26:55album name was funny but I didn't quite understand what it
- 26:59meant. So I was trying to, like, find
- 27:01out what it meant. And it says that what it means
- 27:05is back at this time, what was very important to underground
- 27:10music, which is what he was a part of, was illegal pirate
- 27:15radio stations. Oh, yeah.
- 27:17So he was saying that he was making underground music that
- 27:20was for the radio, the illegal radio.
- 27:23So it's original pirate material.
- 27:25That is genius. Yeah, he's like play this on
- 27:30your pirate radio. It's underground.
- 27:33He even he even had one and I maybe that's a reference now.
- 27:38I can't remember which song it was.
- 27:41I can see it in the lyrics right now, but it's he says 102.6 the
- 27:45streets and I wonder if that's I wonder if that's a frequency to
- 27:50one of the pirate radio stations.
- 27:53I don't know, but I do know that it also says right underneath
- 27:58where it was talking about the album, it does say that he he
- 28:01gave away vinyls to these stations without like the album
- 28:06name on it for them to play his music.
- 28:09So it very well could be just a random radio station.
- 28:12Random radio station. Yeah, I also saw somewhere where
- 28:15they were like went, you know, you hear musicians talking about
- 28:19garages, like Metallica famously, I guess kick started
- 28:24in a garage and many others have.
- 28:27But apparently, like, he put mattresses up to soundproof a
- 28:31closet in a apartment or home or wherever he was and started
- 28:36doing everything inside of there.
- 28:38And that's where this album came from.
- 28:40So like no fancy equipment or anything, you know as he was get
- 28:45going, which which I thought was another just LED into the
- 28:51overall aura, for lack of a better word, of the album.
- 28:55Yeah. And I think.
- 28:56We're not. We're not.
- 28:57Doing anything that big is great.
- 28:59No, I think the word for that aura is authenticity.
- 29:03I think that summarizes this album.
- 29:07Mike Skinner, the streets like, it's just very authentic to who
- 29:11he is, to where he is and to what he wants his music to sound
- 29:17like. So yeah, I agree.
- 29:20There's a a couple other songs that I that I called funny
- 29:23lyrics in or neat things that he did.
- 29:26So same old thing, which is the the 5th song.
- 29:30There's a lyric in there that says that's it.
- 29:33Who's got dough? Hey, you know, I'd pay but I'm
- 29:37broke. Oh my God, coinage to show.
- 29:39I'm like, that's so funny. And and and again, he was young
- 29:45when he was doing this. So what 2122, I think is how old
- 29:48he was. And I was like, yeah, that
- 29:50sounds like College of like, yeah, man, thanks.
- 29:52I'll get you the next time. And like the next time never
- 29:55shows up. But that was that was a funny
- 29:58line to me. I and I know it's outside of our
- 30:03album, but we listened to or Me and My friend listen to the most
- 30:08popular song by there's fit, but you know it.
- 30:11If you want a good laugh and a good song, honestly, you need to
- 30:16listen to that song too. It says he's like talking to a
- 30:20girl and he's like, see, it says I reckon you're about an 8 or a
- 30:24nine, maybe even 9 1/2 and four years time.
- 30:28And then he keeps going and said, but there's just one thing
- 30:31that's really, really, really, really, really annoying me about
- 30:34you. You see.
- 30:36See, like I said, you are fit, but my gosh, don't you just know
- 30:40it? And it's this whole song about
- 30:41how he doesn't even want her because he knows like she knows
- 30:44her words. And so he's like, I'm not even
- 30:46going to try. And.
- 30:48That that that that songs from the album a grand don't come for
- 30:52free, which again got super high marks everywhere that I read
- 30:57that. If you listen to that one
- 30:58though, they said do it front to back in order because it tells a
- 31:04it tells a complete story. Yeah, that song is just so
- 31:08funny. You could not stop laughing.
- 31:10But I mean, like it, it turns in and starts kind of telling a
- 31:13story in it where it talks about like, I think it's it's saying
- 31:17it's something along the lines of a guy trying to like grab her
- 31:20and him being like, it's not worth it essentially of like
- 31:23saying like cut it out. We don't handle that behavior
- 31:26and stuff. But him just being like, you're
- 31:28fit, but don't you just know it? And it's like saying that that's
- 31:33past the point. But anything else?
- 31:38Are you ready to go? On to some readings I also
- 31:40liked. There was a one where I guess
- 31:44it's the week Become Heroes and he's got a lyric in there where
- 31:48he talks about same the same piano loops over all the time.
- 31:54During the song though, there is the same piano that is looping
- 31:59over and over as part of the music.
- 32:02And so he actually talks about it and references it.
- 32:05And I was like, oh, that's, that's pretty good too.
- 32:08So. Yeah, now you're ready to go on.
- 32:11I guess you're just trying to push me on along.
- 32:13Push me on along. What is What are your ratings,
- 32:15Riley? This one was so hard for me.
- 32:19I would say objectively, it's hard to give it anything less
- 32:22than an 8 1/2 nine. It was so, like I said, so well
- 32:29put together, even if it didn't sound pleasant.
- 32:32So like objectively, I can give it that.
- 32:34I can give it a super high score and not feel bad about it.
- 32:37Personally, it depends on what I'm doing.
- 32:42This is the first one that like I truly cannot say one way or
- 32:46the other. Like if I'm just sitting around
- 32:48and I have to listen to this album, I'm I'm giving it like a
- 32:51four. Like I don't want to listen to
- 32:53it just sitting there and doing anything but me and my friend
- 32:58like she was getting ready to go to dinner or something like
- 33:01that. We had the most fun as she was
- 33:03like curling her hair and I was just sitting around talking to
- 33:05her and this music was playing like it was so accurate for what
- 33:09it was. And so I I think I can level it
- 33:13out and keep it at just a 5. But I'm saying that as like it's
- 33:18not meant to be listened to all the time or enjoy it all the
- 33:22time. It's not meant to be like just
- 33:26fun to like play all the time. Like it's, it's meant for a
- 33:30certain time. And so that's what's so
- 33:32frustrating about giving it a technically middle, middle
- 33:36rating or lower rating. It's because like for the parts
- 33:40that it's for, it's incredible. But I can't give it that because
- 33:45I don't want to listen to it all the time either.
- 33:47That makes sense. I'm going to give it a 5, but I
- 33:50don't mean that as an insult or a lesser than, I mean it as I
- 33:55just don't think it was meant for that.
- 33:57Yeah, so A5 and your objective was an 8.5.
- 34:02Yeah. So my personal rating was a 6.5
- 34:08and again, same thing, like as I listened to it and I started
- 34:14listening, I'm like, all right, I can with many songs like bop
- 34:19my head to it, tap my like even even some of the lyrics were
- 34:23catchy enough to where I even started picking up on the things
- 34:25and we're able to, you know, sing them so it but I can also
- 34:31see what you're saying. It's like, if this isn't what
- 34:33you're in the mood to listen to, it's not going to be it's not
- 34:37going to sound good. It's not going to be what you
- 34:39want because it's got such a distinctive sound to it, it
- 34:45makes it difficult to truly rate.
- 34:49I'll word it this way, if I was listening to music with someone
- 34:55that had a different music taste and appreciated music, I would
- 34:59play this album in an instant for them.
- 35:02If I was in the car and given the ox, I would not play this
- 35:06album first. Yeah, yeah.
- 35:08I, I would, I would hesitate to play this album unless I really
- 35:13knew they appreciated music right enough to or liked this
- 35:16type of music. Yeah, but this isn't this isn't
- 35:201. You just casually play for
- 35:22people the way like funeral was. They're screaming delicate.
- 35:25Even that was a little more out there.
- 35:27Like those you can kind of play and just pass on.
- 35:30If I tried to play this without warning someone what it was
- 35:32going to be like it it catches you too off guard the first time
- 35:36listening to it to really appreciate it.
- 35:40I talked about it with Mama Barber and Brother Barber and me
- 35:47and Wesley, my brother listened to it on the way down to Georgia
- 35:54this past weekend. And he got about halfway through
- 35:57and he's like, all right, I'm done.
- 35:58I can't do it. And I try not to, like, give
- 36:01away too much talking to them. But I was like, oh, you have to
- 36:04listen to it a few times. And he was like, the idea of
- 36:07listening to it a few times ruins the idea of liking this
- 36:10album for me. And I'm like, that's fair.
- 36:13I probably would also give up if I didn't have to like.
- 36:16And that's kind of what else is beautiful about this podcast is
- 36:19like, there's a lot of these albums that if I listen to it
- 36:22the first time, I'd be like, oh, I don't like that.
- 36:24And then like the second or third time it was like, oh,
- 36:26there is something to. This album, and it does kind of
- 36:29grab it. I do see it.
- 36:30I do see it and it keeps it a little bit longer than you know
- 36:34what I was. Thinking the most with this
- 36:37album so far, where I was like, Oh my gosh, this is going to be
- 36:40a long week. And then I was like, oh, OK.
- 36:43The more I listen to it, the more I was like, I kind of enjoy
- 36:45this and so. But both of them are like, no,
- 36:50like it. It's too weird.
- 36:52And I'm like, you gotta give it a chance.
- 36:54Yeah, you have to listen to it a few times before.
- 36:56I did the same thing and and and so you know, the when I first
- 37:01played the the song again with with Mama Barbara, she was like,
- 37:07no. But then a different time we got
- 37:10in the car and I started with sharp darts, which has got a
- 37:14much more agreeable beat and sound again, like if if you
- 37:22didn't know the Beastie Boys very well and were like, it can
- 37:27pass. And she's like, oh, I like this
- 37:30one. What you know.
- 37:31And so like there are some in there where you can wear the
- 37:35beat is good and in it and it makes it.
- 37:39But yeah, it's it's again, apologies across the board
- 37:44because you know, we're we're not British.
- 37:47So it's but we recognize that. So personal rating 6.5 for me,
- 37:52objective rating. I agree with you.
- 37:56I I gave it 8 instead of 8.5. But again, I, I can't be angry
- 38:01with somebody saying 8.5. It did do quite a bit looking at
- 38:06everything. And again, I I didn't realize
- 38:09it. What's the what's the shack
- 38:11meme? The streets.
- 38:12I apologize for not knowing your game, whatever it is.
- 38:16Yeah, this is this is the two of us coming to the the streets.
- 38:20So. Also, he is master class of he's
- 38:25exactly what I thought he would look like and nothing like what
- 38:28I thought he would look like. At the same time, every time I
- 38:31see a picture of this man, I'm like, yeah, wait, no, like it.
- 38:36It keeps like going back and forth in my head.
- 38:38I can't decide if he's the exact person I would think would sing
- 38:42this or like the exact opposite because I saw a picture of him
- 38:45recently where he was wearing like a polo and khakis.
- 38:47And I was like, what are we doing, man?
- 38:49Like in my mind? But then again, if you've never
- 38:53seen it, the the Beastie Boys did a special where they went
- 38:56through their time as the Beastie Boys, just the two that
- 38:59are still alive, and they were wearing like polos.
- 39:02And I was like, what happened to the Beastie Boys?
- 39:06Yeah. What happened to the galactic
- 39:08outfits that like, what happened to the space suits?
- 39:11Like, where is it? The space suits?
- 39:13Where are those Beastie Boys? So I think that's part of it.
- 39:17But still, like you said, this is our coming with open arms to
- 39:23the streets. Yes, and it and admission that
- 39:28we don't really know British culture, British rap, British
- 39:34anything other than why we were in Atlanta.
- 39:38We are fans of the Premier League.
- 39:40That's about that's about it. That's about all we know.
- 39:44There you go. And some people would say we
- 39:47wouldn't. We don't even know that because
- 39:49we're Manchester United fans. And yes, I do realize they were
- 39:54awful last year. So many people will say we don't
- 39:57even know Premier League soccer. Hey, but the fact that you
- 40:00stayed with them through them being awful shows a little bit
- 40:03of team spirit there. I've got, I've got so much hope,
- 40:06got so much hope. That's all you can have.
- 40:10Speaking of, I don't know how to transition from that.
- 40:14What's your song of the week? What you've been listening to?
- 40:17My song of the week is by and I always I always like when I find
- 40:22random bands. This is the This is the test to
- 40:26say if Riley knows them or not. Oh boy.
- 40:30Spotify 28,000 monthly listeners so it's a small 1 the
- 40:37retrograde. The retrograde.
- 40:40Yeah, have you heard of them? I feel like I have.
- 40:44Probably so it's like because you know, and this is this is
- 40:49our running joke. Riley listens to so many
- 40:54different bands and music. It's like when you find one that
- 40:57she's never heard of or like, yes, I won.
- 41:00I'm going to buy a lottery ticket because I've done
- 41:03something. And now you're trying to you're
- 41:07trying to search for him to see if you know him.
- 41:09But anyway, the retrograde. Well, I was, I was saying I have
- 41:13heard of them. I don't have any of their songs
- 41:16liked, but I have heard of them. OK, but I was giving them.
- 41:19So I still win. You still win, but I was giving
- 41:22them a reference that my one of my favorite bands musicians.
- 41:29Oh yeah, with your number of monthly listeners.
- 41:32He has two bands. 221 is just a solo album when it's his band.
- 41:39His band has 12 monthly listeners and his solo is 23
- 41:46monthly listeners. Yeah.
- 41:48And I think. So how many people are in the
- 41:52band? Well, the band.
- 41:55I don't know and I care. If if the band has got 12
- 41:59monthly listeners, you're one of them and probably every band
- 42:02member is 1. So I mean, we're down and maybe
- 42:04a couple parents in there. So I mean.
- 42:06I'll say, I'll say I. You may be the only listener
- 42:10that isn't banned or family for that particular band.
- 42:13So what is that band? Just to give them a shout out.
- 42:15Maybe they'll get a couple other monthly listeners here.
- 42:18OK, so the bands give them both. The band's name is Telewave.
- 42:23Telewave has released music more recently, but not they they
- 42:32stemmed from Morgan Smith is the musician.
- 42:38If you want one of the best bluesy bulk albums of your life,
- 42:46listen to this album. It's called Peaceful Mind.
- 42:50It's from 2008. It's the only music he's ever
- 42:53released. All of them have over 100
- 42:56streams now, and I think that's because of me.
- 42:58I listen to this album more than I would like to admit.
- 43:02Like it's it's genuinely up. If I could choose, this is like
- 43:07my favorite out of all time. Like because it's not even on
- 43:10like Apple Music. So I apologize to Apple Music
- 43:12fans. Like it's literally only on
- 43:14Spotify. It's tiny, tiny, tiny.
- 43:17But specifically listen to feline glory.
- 43:20This isn't my this isn't even my most listened to song of the
- 43:24week. Listen to Feline.
- 43:25Glory that you sent you down a rabbit hole.
- 43:28There's a that's. Usually what people do to me, I
- 43:31was about to say. That's usually my thing.
- 43:34Listen to Feline Glory, it has some of the most hard hitting
- 43:39lyrics that you wouldn't anticipate from a song about a
- 43:44cat. The chorus, the lyric that
- 43:47always hits me is Little Lily. It's been too long.
- 43:51You've got 9 lives and so you might as well roam.
- 43:53But won't you come home to me? Please forgive me if the home
- 43:56you were raised in and falls falls apart before you find it
- 43:59again. Understand it had nothing to do
- 44:01with you. That's a heavy lyric that will
- 44:06go down as one of the best lyrics of all times.
- 44:09And it was written by this little guy with 23 monthly
- 44:12listeners and I think half of them were because I told my
- 44:15friends to go follow him because he was so good.
- 44:18Go listen to Peaceful Mind by Morgan Smith for one of the best
- 44:21Blues albums of all time. Blues slash folk.
- 44:24I don't know, I don't want people getting mad at me for mis
- 44:27genreing him. But yes, continue on with the
- 44:32retrograde. OK, so back, back to the
- 44:35retrograde and it's the name of the song is if 6 was 4 and and I
- 44:44randomly saw some clip of it on Instagram like, oh, that sounds
- 44:50nice. And again, it's the, it's the
- 44:53voice that got me and it's this raspy voice And again, this the
- 44:59sound obviously, but they finished a, a, a lyric and then
- 45:05there was a pause in the song and then like, and I can't
- 45:10remember it off the top of my head.
- 45:12Like the voice comes in and then the drums come in and it was
- 45:16just like, Oh, I like that. So then I went and listened to
- 45:18the song. Song was real good.
- 45:21And, and it, it's just a nice song.
- 45:26It's a bluesy rock kind of kind of vibe.
- 45:31And again, good raspy type of voice.
- 45:35So if you like that if 6 was 4 is the name of the song by the
- 45:41retrograde so very. Nice.
- 45:44Riley, what's yours? So my song of the week has
- 45:48nothing to do with my little rant that I just turned on.
- 45:51That was that was bonus for free.
- 45:54There you go guys. That you get.
- 45:57It is if I can be your dog, not if it's I can be your dog.
- 46:04Edge Hill is the band, it's they've just released these two
- 46:08singles within the past like few weeks.
- 46:12I Can Be Your Dog is the one that just keeps playing more.
- 46:16It's more true to like their normal sound.
- 46:18It's kind of loud, beach rock, pop, fun sounds and it's just a
- 46:24good song. And I've also been listening to
- 46:27them more because I get to go see them in September, which I'm
- 46:31so excited about. And yeah, they're native to
- 46:36Tennessee, so that's super cool. They went to the Andy, so
- 46:39they're super smart on top of everything.
- 46:42But yeah, I highly recommend listening to Edge Hill, I Can Be
- 46:45Your Dog and more Edge Hill after that.
- 46:50If you will, very good. This is how how I guess bad my
- 46:58hearing is. I thought you said Ed Hill.
- 47:03Edge Hill. So when I tried to go find Ed
- 47:06Hill, all I got was Ed Sheeran, which is probably knowing you,
- 47:12not the same thing. Not the same thing.
- 47:15So. But edge, edge hill, hill, I
- 47:18could be your dog. Ironically, though, band name,
- 47:24because wouldn't it wouldn't He'll not have an edge.
- 47:29But I digress. Yeah.
- 47:32It's not that word. So full of philosophical
- 47:35question of the week, if we wanted to do that, do.
- 47:37Oh boy. Do hills have?
- 47:39Edges my philosophy mind is really coming out.
- 47:42Yeah, think, think on that for a week.
- 47:44Do hills have edges there? You go.
- 47:47Right, so that leads us to next album for people to listen to
- 47:55and for us. Yeah, yeah.
- 47:57So the next album. Gonna be.
- 48:00Is what's going on by Marvin Gaye?
- 48:06Oh, this is a good one. Yeah, it's this one's an iconic
- 48:11one. Yeah.
- 48:13So I'm very excited. Seems like someone may already
- 48:19know some of it. But yeah, maybe, maybe some of
- 48:22it. Yeah.
- 48:23So join in listening with us this week with What's Going On
- 48:28by Marvin Gaye and then you can follow us on our socials and X
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- 48:43people forget that one at Barbara Cuts pod.
- 48:48Also leave some comments and follow along here.
- 48:51Continue on listening, let us know your thoughts and give a
- 48:56listen to What's Going on by Marvin Gaye and maybe another
- 48:59listen to original pirate material The Streets, if you
- 49:02only halfway listened through it.
- 49:03I'm talking you, Wesley. All out.
- 49:07Yeah, listen to it more than once.
- 49:09Give it a try. And I'd also encourage
- 49:11everybody, you know, we're doing what's going on by Marvin Gaye.
- 49:16And so again, we're still figuring out how we want to do
- 49:20our origination. What this list is mystery list
- 49:24that we keep talking about. But this particular album, like
- 49:29when you go look at Rolling Stones, were they the greatest
- 49:33albums? This is generally in the top
- 49:36five. Like this is a really good
- 49:39album. So you know, this is 1 to listen
- 49:42to. So yes, go go Marvin Gaye a
- 49:47solid listen to his album. So I guess that's it.
- 49:51Until next time, I'm Todd. And I'm Riley, and this has been
- 49:55another episode of Barber Cuts.