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What Will We Do When the Aliens Land? · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Connor mcspatteren.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show, a podcast about conspiracies.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I shouldn't have to explain that.
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  Speaker 3: It seems so like explanatory.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you'd be able to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Adam Todd Brown. Connor mcspadden was tossed
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  Speaker 2: in the back of a van this morning. Someone threw
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  Speaker 2: a bag over his head, zip tie around his hands,
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  Speaker 2: threw him in the back of a van.
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  Speaker 1: He'll turn up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the nature of the conspirac podcast business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're playing with fire here. Yeah, sometimes your co host
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  Speaker 2: is going to get black bagged by the CIA. You
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  Speaker 2: just never know. But I have guests today. That was
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  Speaker 2: Olivia Hydar. Oh, Hi, how's it going. I'm good?
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  Speaker 3: How were you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so good. You've done this podcast before a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times we've talked.
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  Speaker 1: About what have we talked with?
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  Speaker 3: Mostly aliens mostly honestly, the only time that I can
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  Speaker 3: have fun talking about conspiracies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did. I think we did Project blue
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  Speaker 2: Book at one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the We did a two parter on
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  Speaker 3: sign in blue book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also joining me first time guests, this is
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  Speaker 2: your first time on the un Pops network. Call on,
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  Speaker 2: that's me.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Tell the people a little bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 4: I am a person, that's right, that's about it. Lizard person, don't.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't supposed to come out yet. That's a later
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  Speaker 4: a later episode. It's a it's a long game. I am.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Grant, as he said, thank you, Adam.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a writer here in Los Angeles, which means I
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  Speaker 4: have a day job at Sony Pictures as a nut writer,
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  Speaker 4: and I riding in the nighttime.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: So that's me in a very quick nutshell.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for being here. I appreciate it. What
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  Speaker 2: is your overall experience or feelings toward conspiracy theories in general?
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  Speaker 1: Are they a thing you're familiar with or.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely familiar with. I would say I definitely trend skeptical
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  Speaker 4: versus yeah, ready to believe everything. But I am a
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  Speaker 4: fan of aliens in general and am a believer in
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  Speaker 4: alien life as an idea. So I'm happy to be
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  Speaker 4: here to talk about aliens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this particular topic it's not it's
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  Speaker 2: a good episode for someone who's a little more skeptical. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because we're not really getting into conspiracy theories. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that aliens are real and are coming soon. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I hope it soon. Yeah, I hope they're here. I know,
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  Speaker 2: I hope they're listening.
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  Speaker 1: To this like they're wasting their time in ten minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I hope, Like, I hope they're not here, because
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  Speaker 3: that means that they're like intentions are peaceful, and that's boring.
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  Speaker 3: I want them to come here and like turn us
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  Speaker 3: all into liquid.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't, but why wouldn't you want to be friends
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  Speaker 4: with an alien that sounds like super chill? I would
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  Speaker 4: love to just.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, I guess it'd be fine. I just
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  Speaker 3: kind of also just want our planet to end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, in that case, sure, let them be hostile and
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  Speaker 4: melt us all down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the fact that they're already here doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: mean they're peaceful. I guess there's like there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a theory that we signed a packed with an alien
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  Speaker 2: civilization that's here on Earth in the seventies, Yeah, which
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  Speaker 2: is a mean, like where's that move? There's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I remember sate documentary Men in Black in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that Johnny Cash.
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  Speaker 2: Goes to the White House, Elvis at the White House, Like,
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  Speaker 2: when is the fucking Aliens Meet with Nixon movie?
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  Speaker 3: You were going to be proposing Johnny Cash versus the
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  Speaker 3: aliens that came here?
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  Speaker 1: Where's that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm into it?
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  Speaker 4: At the White House?
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  Speaker 1: Where's that?
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  Speaker 2: Can bring back walkuing Phoenix? But it feels like we
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  Speaker 2: are at a point in history where the government really
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  Speaker 2: wants us to know aliens are real.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, at least the nearest to that point that
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  Speaker 3: we've been I.
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  Speaker 2: Would agree with that. We uh, just this episode's coming
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  Speaker 2: out next week, so as you're hearing this publicly. Last week,
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  Speaker 2: we re released an episode that was Patreon only before,
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  Speaker 2: which was about a twenty seventeen New York Times article
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  Speaker 2: that this is kind of infamous now in that it
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  Speaker 2: it almost read like the New York Times saying, yep,
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  Speaker 2: UFOs sure are a thing, And we were just like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, yeah, are they going to impeach Trump? We
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  Speaker 2: got a lot on their plate. If not, you can
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  Speaker 2: get right the fuck out of here with that.
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  Speaker 4: Not the best year I guess to introduce actual alien
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  Speaker 4: activity to us.
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  Speaker 3: Right, or maybe the best. Yeah, that's if you just
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  Speaker 3: don't want it to make an impact.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to sweep it under the rug very quickly,
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  Speaker 4: then yes, perfect timing. Maybe that was the intention, But
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  Speaker 4: then why would the New York Times have done that.
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  Speaker 4: That's almost like now we're in the conspiracy of Like
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  Speaker 4: now the New York Times is on Trump's side and
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  Speaker 4: they're just trying to like hide on this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm already.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wrote a fucking medium article about how I
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  Speaker 2: think Trump and the mainstream media are just friends.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, megie, you're best friends.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing a fucking wrestling thing, like yeah, right, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty fabe. Yeah, but yeah, we're the reason we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about this again. And the reason I released that old
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  Speaker 2: Patreon episode to the public last week is it seems
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  Speaker 2: like they're giving it another shot because just last month,
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  Speaker 2: right near the end of May, there was another New
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  Speaker 2: York Times article.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was basically identical.
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  Speaker 2: And now on top of that, this is an actual
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  Speaker 2: headline from twenty nineteen. Trump senators briefed on UFO sightings.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we're here twenty nineteen. We made it finally so.
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  Speaker 2: Far, and that feels right, because it's twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Of course the UFOs are here.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: That is true, it is the future.
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  Speaker 2: But it feels like sort of the same thing is
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  Speaker 2: happening with this article, where it's not really no one's
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  Speaker 2: really going to give a shit.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's I don't think
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  Speaker 3: most people care about aliens in general, Like it's not
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  Speaker 3: something that's their general like radar, that they think about
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  Speaker 3: on the daily basis. There's so much else going on
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  Speaker 3: in the world in our country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that. There's so many conspiracy theories and we
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  Speaker 2: touch on one some of them next week, but conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theories about how the government is going to use like
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  Speaker 2: a fake alien invasion to bring about some massive change
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to pull a Watchman. Yeah, yeah, pretty much, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: And it worked out great, Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it actually it did.
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  Speaker 2: If I remember Watchmen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of worked like it works for a
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  Speaker 3: short time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it worked until the well spoiler.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I've never yeah, I've never read the sequel comics
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  Speaker 3: to Watchmen.
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  Speaker 4: I agree that it's not on the top of people's radar,
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  Speaker 4: but I would I would think that most people just
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  Speaker 4: kind of are waiting for, like the actual aliens to
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  Speaker 4: show up, whatever form that takes, whether it is you
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  Speaker 4: know that like quote unquote little green men, why don't
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  Speaker 4: they got to be green, that's racist, or if it's
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  Speaker 4: the little micro like bacteria kind of deal of like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we found life, but they're not obviously not threatening life.
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  Speaker 4: I think people are just essentially because we've been very
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  Speaker 4: desensitized to the idea of aliens over the past several decades.
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  Speaker 4: I think people are just waiting for, like they want
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  Speaker 4: to see the thing before they actually have a reaction
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  Speaker 4: to it.
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  Speaker 1: But what if the government is actively hiding the thing
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  Speaker 1: from you?
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know, that's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, then how do you ever get to the
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  Speaker 1: point where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, show me the evidence, right, because people get
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  Speaker 2: so worked up about that part, like show me the evidence,
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  Speaker 2: like we've kind of seen evidence. It's just there's weird.
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  Speaker 2: A matter of whether you think every person who's ever
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  Speaker 2: reported seeing something like this is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think our government is so competent that it
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  Speaker 4: would be able to hide it forever. I mean maybe
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  Speaker 4: for now, I mean even for even a few decades,
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  Speaker 4: like pre especially pre internet. You know, it'd be easier
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  Speaker 4: to hide it. But like I think eventually someone's gonna
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  Speaker 4: screw something up, and it's if it already exists, if
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  Speaker 4: that information exists, or if we have already made contact,
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  Speaker 4: someone will have hard evidence and we'll find out. I
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  Speaker 4: think the government could hide it forever.
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  Speaker 2: Dozens and dozens, maybe even hundreds of people have come
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  Speaker 2: forward with evidence like that. It's just like every time
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  Speaker 2: that's true, you see them on TV, we laugh at them, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we call them crazy. Yeah, a lot of times they are,
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  Speaker 2: like the A lot of times they are.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, like I look, I think that there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of really weird shit, Like if you start
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  Speaker 3: digging in to UFOs and sightings and like government constructions,
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  Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of really weird shit that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have an easy explanation.
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  Speaker 2: But there's still have been. There are crazy people, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but when it comes to cool damn this. This is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people. A lot of people argue this,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with the argue. Our government doesn't fight
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  Speaker 2: individual stories. They don't try unless they absolutely have to.
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  Speaker 2: What our government does and has been doing for decades,
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  Speaker 2: is discrediting the entire notion of presenting a story that's
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  Speaker 2: contrary to what the government said, to the point where
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Americans both inherently distrust the government but
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  Speaker 2: also hear the word conspiracy theory and go you're a
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  Speaker 2: crazy person. It's like, well, how do you not trust
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  Speaker 2: the government but also trust the government implicitly just because
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  Speaker 2: you hear the word conspiracy, because a conspiracy is we
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  Speaker 2: see those all the time totally. There's lots of real conspiracy.
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  Speaker 2: Like the example I use all the time is police shootings.
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  Speaker 2: We sometimes don't see that video for a few months,
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  Speaker 2: and in the whole time, a lot of times the
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  Speaker 2: police haven't really told us what was in that video.
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  Speaker 2: That's a conspiracy that.
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  Speaker 3: A group of people conspire, diede something.
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  Speaker 2: So they happen and we know our government isn't. Like
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  Speaker 2: mk Ultra is another one I bring up all the time,
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  Speaker 2: like that we know that happened, We know records. They
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  Speaker 2: for thirty years were so deep into the at the
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  Speaker 2: time burgeoning psychiatry industry, Like they basically built psychiatry as
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  Speaker 2: a government testing program and we only know it because
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  Speaker 2: someone filed one like box of documents in the wrong building.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise they forever.
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  Speaker 2: Like their excuse was, all right, we did it, but
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't massive, Like to call it massive, that's a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a stretch. And then we found these documents
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  Speaker 2: and they were like it was pretty massive, all right,
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  Speaker 2: So it was huge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to brainwash a couple hundred soldiers.
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  Speaker 2: A big deal.
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  Speaker 4: You never miss them. But I guess that's the point though, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like people are still kind of waiting on like the
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  Speaker 4: big red stamped document that says classified or whatever with
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  Speaker 4: the FBI letterhead, like, oh, we know aliens exist, and
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  Speaker 4: here's all the evidence and here's where they're living. Kind
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  Speaker 4: of a deal, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, And I feel like we're never going to get.
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  Speaker 3: That, no, And like there have been so many government,
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  Speaker 3: official government reports that are pointing in that direction, but
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  Speaker 3: they don't get trid because I just don't think that
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  Speaker 3: most people generally care unless it's actually unless there are
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  Speaker 3: literally going to be aliens on TV or like in.
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  Speaker 2: Their house or like whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't think, Yeah, I don't think anyone gives
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  Speaker 3: a shit that they exist.
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  Speaker 2: And I should mention that's kind of the topic we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about, Yeah, totally, is what happens when the aliens
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  Speaker 2: get Yeah, but I've most of this has just been
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  Speaker 2: to set up why we're back to talking about aliens
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  Speaker 2: because there's another article like the one from October of
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  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I'm always just.
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  Speaker 4: Happy about it.
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  Speaker 2: I like, I love all this stuff, and the gist
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  Speaker 2: of it will put We've been putting links to all
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  Speaker 2: our public episodes on all the reference links that we
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  Speaker 2: talk about on on pops dot com, and we'll put
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  Speaker 2: all of those for this episode up also. But basically
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  Speaker 2: the gist of the article is the same. All these
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  Speaker 2: navy pilots are reporting having seen UFOs as if it's
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  Speaker 2: not weird that they're getting boats up it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, you know, but that's like the cree technology.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just commonplace.
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  Speaker 1: I tweeted that today.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty cute, I want to say, having rewatched again
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  Speaker 4: the twenty seventeen video of the thing the UFO floating
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  Speaker 4: around like shifting and stuff in the sky that the
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  Speaker 4: plane is trackings, like has no idea what it is. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I want to know why they don't have cameras with
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  Speaker 4: color or like it has to radar camera, Like how
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  Speaker 4: how hard could it be to just strap a regular
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  Speaker 4: ass GoPro on the front of a plane or like
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  Speaker 4: inside the cockpit. It's like, oh, now we kind of
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  Speaker 4: can understand what we're looking at, Like can can you
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  Speaker 4: see it with the naked eye? Even does it have
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  Speaker 4: to be on you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know anything about military protocol at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like uh yeah, and like why they record the certain things? Uh,
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  Speaker 3: it seems like it wouldn't be that hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Even just like fucking HD camera
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  Speaker 2: on that jet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take seven to twenty P. It doesn't even
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  Speaker 4: have to be full lights, D four K anything.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're telling me that Christopher Nolan was able
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  Speaker 3: to shoot imax from a World War Two like fighter
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  Speaker 3: plane Dunkirk, and we can't put like a little like
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  Speaker 3: uh like redcam in the fucking cockpit.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking love Dunkirk.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good movie, really good. It's a really good
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  Speaker 2: my favorite war movie.
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  Speaker 3: I really like it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: So the the other gist of this article is that
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  Speaker 2: the government has been pumping millions of dollars into researching
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  Speaker 2: UFOs for years now. We if you go back and
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  Speaker 2: listen to that episode we released last week, we talk about.
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  Speaker 1: It a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: It's a program that was run by Harry Reid former
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  Speaker 2: Senator Harry Reid, and Robert Bigelow.
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  Speaker 3: Who is Mail.
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  Speaker 2: He's I wish it was just that. He is the
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  Speaker 2: the guy who's probably most active in constructing the crafts
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  Speaker 2: that will take us to space, and also the founder
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  Speaker 2: and CEO of the Budget Sweet's Motel Chain, which.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna stay at Budget.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I want I want some corner cutt And
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: when it comes to building my.
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  Speaker 3: Space needs to know that my uh extended stay room
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  Speaker 3: can be launched into orbit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that it will explode if it's hit with
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: a quarter inch piece of phone at the wrong angle.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: But you'll be like moderately uncomfortable though instead of like
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  Speaker 4: fully uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: So it's inflatable too. It's a balloon.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh I thought you bit the beds.
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  Speaker 2: The entire thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's all a balloon. So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a a really famous conspiracy theory that alleges
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of the alien and UFO related pop
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  Speaker 2: culture stuff we see, like movies, TV shows, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pop culture ever heard of it? I'm familiar a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that, and then also these UFO sighting videos. It's
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  Speaker 2: all a means of like softening humanity up for that
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  Speaker 2: inevitable moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard about this theory, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like, if that's true and this is part of
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  Speaker 2: that plan, they were not expecting Trump to be president
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  Speaker 2: when they were executing this part of the plan. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're all supposed to be panicking right now
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  Speaker 2: and we are just not for the reason they want
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  Speaker 2: us to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but also like Trump being in office is
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  Speaker 3: kind of a pretty effective anti UFO explainer for right now,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, that guy doesn't learn that UFOs
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  Speaker 3: are in office and then not tell everyone in a
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  Speaker 3: fucking Twitter thread, like not even a Twitter thread, like
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  Speaker 3: a broken Twitter thread, three separate leats wor it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, these stupid fucking UFOs crush it. What they mentioned
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  Speaker 2: in there's a pretty popular documentary called Unacknowledged that is
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  Speaker 2: on Netflix now. Uh. One of the things they talk
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  Speaker 2: about there is that it's possible that this is such
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  Speaker 2: a high level plan that even if you're the president,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't need to know, they're not gonna tell you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like your your your traditional checks and balances I don't
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  Speaker 2: think apply to conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 3: No, But also I don't know, I feel like that
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  Speaker 3: gets into like this sort of idea of the deep
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  Speaker 3: state as a collection of people when I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, welcome to conspiracy sho.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but I'm just saying, like, I don't I
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: don't consider the deep state as being a like it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: more of a series of information handed down from person
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to person and it makes its way through the president.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And yeah, like I feel like you, I feel like
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the president would know that if whether or not if
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: if it comes up, I feel like maybe they might
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: not tell him, Like that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Was a big thing in Independence Day.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, we forget the other nineties documentary
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Independence Day.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Where the press where they have that whole conversation on
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Air Force one and Bill Poule is like, I assure you,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: there's no such thing as area fifty one. Actually yeah,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: and then you got the like the little deepkit deep
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: state guy what his secretary of defense or whatever. But yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: like I don't know.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: But there is an area fifty one.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, I mean, of course there's an area
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: fifty one. Yeah, I mean it's real.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: If you if you want the really crazy conspiracy theory
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: version of this episode, listen to next Week, where we
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: speculate on why all of this might be happening.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. I want to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: leave it as a cliffhanger.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, but there are kind of prominent smart people who
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: theorize that we will hear from aliens at some point
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: in the near future.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing about the Fermi paradox, isn't it,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Where it's like, why haven't we I mean, it's like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: as our technology grows greater and greater, it becomes easier
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: for us to find aliens, and it's weird that we
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: haven't heard from them, and maybe civilizations just die before
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: they can reach us.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Well there's the kind of, I guess, sort of a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: counter to that where one of the people who suggests
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that we will encounter alien life at some point is
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: mitchio Kaku, who is the pre eminent theoretical physicist in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the United States. He's like the pop physicist, He's like
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the Bill Nye.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: He writes all these books like what how do you
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: make Star Trek technology real?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And all that. Yeah, yeah, he's cool, And he theorizes
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: that we'll make contact with a civilization from another planet
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: at some point. But one of the things he points
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: out is we're going to have to figure out what
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: type of advanced civilization they are. In the sixties, there
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: was this Russian scientist named Nikolai Kardashiev, and he developed
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a system in nineteen sixty four for measuring how advanced
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a civilization is based on how they use their energy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So level one means you can harness all the energy
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: of your home planet, Level two means you can harness
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the energy of your planet and its parent star, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: level three means you can harness the energy of the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: entire galaxy around you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I like that you made this and we can't even
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: reach level one.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Earth is sort of level one.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We're not even keeping up with Kardashev. So if someone someone,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: if someone gets here, they're gonna be so more advanced.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it have to be. And you know, they
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: could be working on it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: That'll always be the case, I feel.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Like, and they could already be here and the government
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: could just be hiding the evidence from us.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: But then what motive I mean, yeah, I guess it
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: would be like, what would be their motive in staying secret?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Because if they're so advanced then they wouldn't have to
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: obey the government's orders to be seen because if.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: They're here, they're here for a reason.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and cooperating with the government on Like, it could
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: just be a thing where, well, we're here, we need
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: these resources, we'll give you this, Yeah, in return, maybe
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: make it people kill us. Maybe they're why we have Trump.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Could be it could just be an intel gathering mission,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: sort of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy style, where they're
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: just gonna decide that we're a non threat and then
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: blow the Earth up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to imagine someone coming to our planet
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: and thinking of humans as a nonsense, except except in
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: the idea of us not being able to last long
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: enough to make it up of our planet and urt anyone.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Else, right, which I think is also very possible. Oh yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I just can't help but think about the distance that
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: an alien life force would have to travel to get here,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Like if they are tens of millions, Like, let's just
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: let's just say for fun, they're like a million light
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: years away, So then we wouldn't we still haven't been
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: around long enough for our signals to have reached their planet.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Like anything that we've been like our if they were
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: watching us with a telescope. We haven't been around long
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: enough for them to even see us really.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So then the thing about that argument is we're thinking
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: about it based on the technology we have available to us,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Like they could have the technology to get here, could
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: have come here and been like it's full of a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: bunch of fucking zoo animals and they have nothing. Right,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: we don't need them, and they could have left.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Like or maybe they've made humans.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a simulation.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the world is the simulation.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: That's I love that theory.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Seems the most logical explanation for the universe.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it explains everything.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: There's a god exactly. That's why the Matrix is so great.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: The Matrix. Yeah, that Matrix. We just did a list
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: dystopias we'd want to live in.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I picked.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: The Matrix because of the cipher speech where Joe Pants
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: is talking to his piece of steak like, I know
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: this is fake, but ignorance is bliss.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take that steak.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But the problem.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing is, yeah, it's it's imperfect. It can't
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: be like nice. I would like the singularity, but everything
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: is fine inside. Yeah, yeah, where it's not nineteen ninety nine.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to be some other time. So yeah,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: that that is another possibility that if we do make
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: contact with an alien life form, which is going to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: happen probably by way of like sending a signal or like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: there's all sorts of projects that are dedicated to looking.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: For extraterrestrial life forms. Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: SETI, which I thought was just one organization. Oh no,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it's actually just an acronym that means search for extraterrestrial intelligence.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And then there's all these different groups that have SETI
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in their name, right, and then focus on different areas.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got there's like a chain of people across
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the world, so that every pyramid scheme, yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: everyone has to send in a dollar, yeah, and set
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: up a radio.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Two galaxies under you, and then they add four more exactly.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: But they've got to cover the entire sky at all times,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: so then twenty four hours a day, then you've got
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the whole sky covered, right. I learned that from the
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: movie Contact. It's great softening us up written by Carl Sagan.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, you know that it's based in a
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: book by carl S.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Sagan. Great movie, very good movie.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the movie's good.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Books good too. But yeah, and so we there's also
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: the matter of if we'd even be able to communicate
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: with them, right right?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems that's what the rival is about and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: in the movies.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: And then there's the question of should we communicate with them? Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't see it downside. I don't see it down
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So the worst.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Thing that happens is they annihilate our entire species.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the whole thing. Like, then we all die.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Who cares?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Not only do we all die, but we die in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: arguably one of the cool and like.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: The best way.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: We've made so many movies about how awesome it is
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: when we when people die like this.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm down. I'm all for it. Might as
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: well talk to him.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Nice and quick, I guess, Yeah, I don't know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That's a slow moving fireball.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I actually don't want nice and quick, Like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want like, is that a meteor? And then
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it hits and I want an individual spider being to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: like float down and.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Just that's kind of what some signs is where it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: like everyone is just kind of in their house and
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: then the aliens.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for them individually.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want it to be a home invasion.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but wouldn't you rather watch someone else's home invasion
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: rather than like have your home invaded inevitably.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: But like everyone's home is getting give Yeah, we're all
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: going down, But I'd.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Want to watch someone else first. At least I get
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: the the pleasure of watching it happen to someone. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: don't want to be first on the list.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: That's part of it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Like I'd like, you got the news, you're watching it
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: on the news, You're like, oh shit, look.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: At that guy. Oh my god, whoa, whoa. I'd be
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: like part of the resistance, but the part that dies
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: first when they get to the mountain villages, Like I
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: get there and be like this is good enough. I've
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: lived an extra twenty days.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: You'd be with that line of things from War of
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the World that like goes over the hill and then
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it's just the apocalypse on the other side.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be all right. Stephen Hawking is one
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: of the people.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a real pessimist. Yeah, or was a real
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: pessimist about it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: He is not confident that if we meet aliens one
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna give a shit about us at all.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I mean we'll be ants today.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's literally we would be nothing to that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Right, And he also uses the example of when Christopher
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Columbus discovered America. Totally feel like that didn't It never
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: goes Well. I have a joke about people wanting to
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: go to Mars that's centered around that, like you don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: want to be first, Like why do you want to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: be first? He's in your first Yeah, and then people
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: show up and genocide you and put up a Starbucks.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We've had this exact DISSI. Yes, I want to be
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: there after the genocide, right, I don't want to go
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: pre genocide.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fair.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I think also from Stephen Hawkings argument of like
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be because what's the point I
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: guess if you don't make contact, they don't how would
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: they not know you're here already? Like if they're they'd
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: have to be that much more advance than this, they
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't know we're here. So we just like hide behind
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: a bush, like they won't know that we're here and
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: not contacting them back like, yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I feel like that would almost be more harmful to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: humanity if we're just like cowering them. Well, no, then
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: even than them showing up to destroy us. If they
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: just send us a message and we're like we don't care. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you mean nothing in the big scheme of things.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I think they would just assume that we don't have
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the capacity to receive it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like the only way that
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: we could like hide is if we like construct some
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: sort of Faraday cage around the planet that blocks Like, right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: how how do you get this hide the fact that
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: there's a planet was seven billion people and all this
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: technology and shit on it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they've already told us and they're just up there,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: like what do these fuck sticks not understand about a
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: crop circle? Says it right there. We don't give a ship,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: We want a crop circle.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Man, Maybe we should have done something more complicated than
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: something that too drunk irishmen can do overnight.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: The mountain.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, if they're watching us, they should know that
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: we don't answer calls from unknown numbers.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I definitely don't.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no that I would under it could say alien
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and I would answer it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if that's actually totally true, if it said an
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: alien is taking I'd be.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Like, okay, I will stop this podcast.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Honestly, if you're a debt collector, well done.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You figured me out. Yeah uh so Yeah. The the question,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: how do we think people would react to aliens landing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: To aliens landing, or to verifiable like that's the thing,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: concrete like video evidence of aliens existing.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Because when I was researching this, I came across a
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: bunch of articles that in their headlines imply survey shows
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: humans would be fine with discovering aliens, And it makes
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: it seem like they surveyed a vast, diverse array of
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Americans and said, if a UFO was hurtling toward Earth,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: how would you react? And most of us were like, yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I'd be all right.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that also assumes I mean, also people are
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: honest about their reaction, but like, yeah, they're all students
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: that they are interviewed, right.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: No, it was a psychologist at Arizona State University, Michael Varnum,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and it was college educated white Americans. Yeah, mostly this
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: is the thing about And they were asked if how
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: they would react if we discover microbial life on Mars,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: which is entirely different years.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I only really kind of care. But like, there's this
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: really great Twitter account called just says in mice. If
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: you've heard of it, it just says it just quote
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: tweets articles making a wild study that just and they
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: just say in mice, because all the studies are in mice.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: And you could do that exact same thing for surveys,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: where it just says in college students, it's just and
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: that is blanket for almost every survey.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is it's it's a very limited test group.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just answering.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: The question of how you feel about microbial life. Who
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: gives a shit? It's like, what are they?
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think to your point, if it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: just talking about, oh hey, aliens are here, then we
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: are already seeing how people react. We're not reacting. I
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: think we have hard evidence that you know, that would
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: connect with people, like we have the thing in front
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: of us. I still think you have like a belt
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: curve of people, like a lot of people if they
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: unless they're like actively being pursued and about to be genocided,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: then the middle of the belt curves like okay, fine, whatever,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's pretty neat, Like I hope I meet
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: once someday, and then you have like the crazy people
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: on one side and the crazy people on the other
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: side who are like, ah, we got to kill them,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: 're like we have to submit to them. So yeah, people,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: people are pretty I mean, despite the fact that this
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: is a survey of college educated white bros. I think
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: people are buying large like kind of predictable.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there is we have in the notes one
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: particular demographic that I think their their reaction might be
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a little different. Yeah, And this is something I think
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: about it a lot religious people, right, because at that point,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the religions that we tend to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: observe on Earth allow room for aliens.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, not explicitly.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you would have.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: The thing is you would have this is something that
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: contact is really could have been, is you would have
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: sets of religions who crop up being like these people
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: are messengers of God and they bring us more knowledge,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: and you have people who are like, no, this is
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a false prophet, these are the devil. I mean, it
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: would splinter off right into all like not even according
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: to major religions. It would just be like blanket across
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: all of them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Well, if in that version of the conspiracy theory where
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: someone stages an alien attack on Earth to I think
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the aim being to kind of form a one world
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: government sort of thing. In most of the versions of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: that conspiracy theory I've read, the way it starts is
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: not only is there an alien invasion but or a
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: UFO invasion, but there's also a technology that's able to
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: kind of broadcast an image in the sky that can
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: be seen anywhere around the world, and that image is
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: going to be the face of the leader of this
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: new way of thinking, who is going to in the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: sky display all of these images that basically destroy all
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the world's religions and prove them to be not true.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And that image in the sky will be presenting humanity
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: with what is allegedly this enlightened way of being that's
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: really just the new world order I've been Alex Jones.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think that there is a single like or
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: even a collection of images that could be broadcast on
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the sky. Well, we know there can't be now, well no,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: but I just I just mean, I don't think there
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: would ever be a like anything like that that could
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: possibly destroy the idea of all religions. Like I just
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: don't think like they're like if especially if you're like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: hardcore religious, then you have already built up walls in
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: your mind to block off things that deny your belief,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and I think it's not going to be super hard
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to overlook something like that. I think what might be
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: interesting is, you know, something that gets thrown out a
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: lot or I mean not really talked about as much
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: when it comes to like aliens coming is them having
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: their own religion and like being religious beings who believe
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: in a thing that we would call God and having
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: their own religious texts that even are seem to confirm
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: things that have like are said in other major religious texts,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: maybe even things seem to confirm things that are said
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: in all of the major religious text Like there's all
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: of these possibilities when it comes if.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: It's all just the most fundamentalist conservative shit, I mean
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: they're like you should have been cutting off hands, this
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like that who knows, Like that's like I
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: think I think that's like an X factor that is
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: hard to even like reckon with of like how are
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: you how are you ever going to prepare for or
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: aliens who have superior knowledge, Like say they come in
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: they say that they have like the real Bible.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It's like it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: You know, you've got the Bible that was made for
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: monkeys basically, and here's the real thing. It's the Third
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a Third Testament or whatever.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It's gonna have a huge fucking user agreement we have
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: exactly agree to.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: It only takes ten thousand years to read and agree
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: to exactly.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gets updated every three weeks. God damn it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I think the religious question is
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: a big factor in how the planet reacts and how
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: humanity reacts.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I agree, And I think it's interesting also that people
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: when we think of aliens, we always seem to think
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: of like we we sort of personify them, where we
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: anthropomorphize them like they are they are thinking beings and
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: they want to communicate with us. The last tuff. We
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: never seem to think about, Oh, they probably have religious
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: beliefs the same way that we do. They believe in
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: some higher power, Like what if Earth is their Jerusalem,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: and like they're coming here to crusade all of us,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: and that would be a good reason, that'd be good
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: enough reason for them to wipe us all out.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if Jerusalem is the birthplace of God
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: basically or you know, not ruthplace, but you know what
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, right, if that is like the holiest spot
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: in the universe, did we could have fucking alien pilgrims
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: who have also heard of Jerusalem coming all the way
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: over here, and then that's like then it doesn't even matter,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: like whether or not you believe in God, then it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: just like, oh, well, shit, Like yeah, I mean.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what if all the revelation shit happens. Like one
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things about the American Conservatives versus isis
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the most fascinating thing about those two groups is they
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: both think things are going to end the exact same way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: They're basically on the same say. I just disagree about
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: who Jesus is coming back to save, right Isis thinks
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: he's coming back for them. Conservatives think, yeah, he'll be
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: back for the United States. What if it all happens
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and he one is an alien, Yeah, and it's just
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: back for none of it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I imagine Jesus comes back and he looks just like
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a Renaissance painting, but he's got those big all the days.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: He looks like that Fresco that got that woman touched up.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yes, but maybe also a lizard tail.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have a tail obviously.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I mean every he's just like where are all the aliens? Like,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: what are you fox doing here?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: You guys should have been gone a long time ago.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: We gave you these nukes. You're supposed to be out
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of here. Yeah. It is crazy that all of the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: kind of the modern age of UFO sightings all start
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: when we started testing nuclear It's a very post nuclear concept. Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: And one of the things we mentioned on next week's
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: episode is that because I've perfected time travel and I've
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: already to it, is that not only did all the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: UFO sightings start around then, but both the Air Force
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and the CIA started like weeks after Roswell, Right, the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Roswell thing happened and we were like, oh, we need
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: we need an air force.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've heard lots like there's an interesting
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: theory that the detonation of all of those nukes, like
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: there were thousands of nuclear detonations throughout the forties and fifties,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and maybe all of those attracted aliens. It's that's been
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: a theory that I've heard before.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: If there's one part of the galaxy just spewing radiation.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, No, it looks like these little
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: monkeys have invented fucking nukes.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Great. See, that's one thing we haven't brought up yet
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: is what if we already know, Like, what if we
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: already know what our reaction is to aliens finally landing here,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and it's all the war stuff we've been doing, like
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: our entire this is it. Yeah, even in the option
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: the reaction is the government will hide it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And the history of the night twenty first century nuke city.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And even if, like even if this
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: article that says humans would be all right with discovering
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: there were alien life forms, even if it was referring
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to aliens landing on Earth, I don't care how small
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that percentage of people who would not be cool with
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: it is. They're gonna be a huge fucking problem.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think if I think if aliens land
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: on our soil, then people will more generally freak out.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, then some sort of abstract thing like this
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: sky projection or like just a video of a UFO
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: or that sort of thing.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I think that would have your more varied splinter reactions,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: you know, to learning that aliens exist. But like if
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: aliens are like, if they're like footage of aliens on
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the fucking National Mall or whatever, or in like Rio
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Deajan arrow that you're gonna have like, then that is
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: when you like people will start to like more widespread
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: flip out.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I just hope they make contact with children first, because
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: that always seems to work out best, it's true.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they have Reese's pieces.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that will make them kind of fun.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I hope we have a nice stockpile of Reese's pieces
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: somewhere that we can just launch.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Try it with candy corn first, so we get rid
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: of all that. If they provided they don't declare war.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: See if they like our candy corn and Circus peanuts,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: peanuts are all right.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: This is our first line of fence, is we get
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: them hooked on sugar and they can't They got to
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: keep coming back for more, and then they're just then
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: they are our slates.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, we just have rockets loaded up with Reese's
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: pieces of coke.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, a diet coke and mentos rocket ship. Just
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: maybe that's foom them will phone them away.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: One last thing about how religions would react to this.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: NASA has actually spent quite a bit of money researching
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: that question, which on the one hand seems not cool
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: because it's like separation of church and state and all that,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: but also we need to know.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I think that is probably the most important thing to
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: know about eventual alien corsa, is how this large group
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: of people who already believe in fantastic things will react
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to like a verification or whatever or provocation.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I think that group specifically would be the most likely
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: to polarize, maybe in both directions, Like I think you
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: would definitely have religious zealots on one side saying, oh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: like this can't be possible, like we're going to have
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: to like kill them all or whatever, and the other
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: the other group of religious zealots who are like, hey,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: this must be God right because they came from the sky,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: so now they our thing and we're going to help
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: them or we're going to I don't know.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you would have as many different reactions
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to it as there are denominations of religion, and that uh,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: that is in itself a volatile and violent prone dynamic.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Definitely worth spending a little like a million bus bugs
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a million yeah, drop in the fucking bogies.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's certainly for a government too, Like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: you suddenly like the government has zero power over these
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: people who like only are interested in aliens. In their power, some.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: One gives a shit like yeah, the government, that's I
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: think that's the reason. It's pretty easy to understand why
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: the government would want to keep those things, quite sure,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: it's just why the aliens would is the.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think in alien landing, like a confirmed alien landing,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: like holy shit, turned the TV on? Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: look at this. Do you think it would have the
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: uniting effect on humanity that people believe it would. No,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think any thing can have a uniting effect.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of ship that's gone down, like
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: even recently that seems like it should be uniting him.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And so I think, and yeah, I think there'll be
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: so much factionalism.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that, And I just I think.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: The US versus them, I don't know, because the US
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: versus them instinct would still play into the fact of like, oh,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: we all hate each other, but at least we are
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: all the same. We know, we understand each other more
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: so than we understand I guess if.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: They literally were attacking us, then maybe right, But also
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: if they're attacking us, how does that ever last longer
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: than an hour? Or like, you know, like there's no
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: way that they're able that they're coming across the galaxy
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: and they get here and then they're going to die
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: to our.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Guns, Like, yeah, get them cold, just give them a call.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah we should.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: We should just give them a cold We'll send tumkers
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: running in.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. If they do come here on
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: some war shit, Yeah, if they're coming here on war
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: like looking to kill us, or even not even looking
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to kill us.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: But like, again, there's no reason to think that we
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: would be anything more than bugs to them.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I think the degree to which it would unite the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: world would depend on where it happened. If it happened
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: in the United States, I feel, because that's one thing
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that survey Also, a lot of those people were probably
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: assuming this is a discovery that happened in the United States.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I think when everyone pictures it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Everyone's picturing, like I said, a video of an alien
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: landing on the National Mall.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: But but like, India is a pretty big government. It's
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the world's biggest democracy. They have a space program. What
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: if they go to the moon and are like, you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: are not gonna fucking believe what we like, that's a
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: pretty big government. It'd be crazy if it was on
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the moon. Yeah, and that's a pretty big government saying publicly, Yep,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: it's real, It's all real.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Found it.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Like, do you think people in the United States would
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: believe it? I think a.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Lot of people would, but I don't think it would
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: be close to everyone.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I think people in the US would.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I think it would be I mean.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Not even necessarily split along these ideological lines, but it
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: would probably be about the same as the percentage of
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: people who support Trump and the percentage of people who
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: don't like him. Like, I don't think it won't necessarily
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: be split down those exact ideological lines, right, But like
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: that kind of there's always gonna be like thirty percent
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: of this country that just doesn't give a fuck and
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: just is like, no, I don't give a shit what
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: India says America went to the Moon and there are
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: no aliens there.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I mean there's also probably the if it happens there
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: and we're not all wiped out in an hour. There's
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: also maybe the selectrety impact because of like someone that
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: you some celebrity that you love, says, oh yeah, I'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: on their side, like they're they're for real that India's
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: got it. The aliens are out there, like, you're probably gonna.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Con Yeah, I mean, I think you'll have like a
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: good seventy eighty percent of people who get pretty easily swayed,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: who are swayed by India's testimony. But I don't think
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: you'll ever get everybody.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Now, they're gonna have to come.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: There's just too many fucking people for us to ever
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: have everybody agreeing on anything.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the whole problem. What if aliens are hating
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: here to tell us that, yeah, give rid to some
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: people a few too many people.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got got a little planet here with seven
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: billion of you fuckers on it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe chill. Yeah, I just hope the next thing
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: they say isn't so let's talk about Muslims. Fuck, no, boy, what.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Planet are you from?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Uh? So? Yeah, I think I don't know that it's
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: it's if it happens in the United States. I just
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: hope they land under circumstances that don't involve them getting
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: shot at by a bunch of good guys with guns.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If they land in Central Florida, Yeah, and someone.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Just like fires a forty five at them, that sets
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: off this global cop another.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: There is another fun thing about UH Independence Day is
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: that they do actually have those warnings on the TV, like,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: don't shoot at the space ship, Like, yeah, you need
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: that because people shot at a fucking hurt hurricane.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll definitely shoot alien. Yes.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: I guess we can only assume they will be equally
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: as emotional as we are, and we'll take that as like, Oh,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: we were gonna be nice, but you're trying to fund
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: so we'll fuck with you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I wonder like if they, like, what if they had
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: the concept of humor and they find it funny that were.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Like, wouldn't that be nice?
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Stand up?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yah, Yeah we're dead, gotcha? You think you could kill
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: us the gun? We still have guns.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: We traveled across the galaxy.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I'm immortal. I've been alive for five thousand years.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Just throw your little metal nibs at me.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Do it again? Should be stamp you got me? Oh yeah,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: we'd be.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Fined oh one hundred. That's one of the main reasons
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: why I don't think that aliens have visited us in
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: any significant capacity, because there's no way that they don't.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Just they're like, oh, well, we'll just take everything that
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: you've got and then you'll die.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean they could be like mid aliens
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: who just have some powers, but not necessarily enough powers
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: to like take us over. I don't know. But then
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: how did they get here? Like that is well, that's
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the day. They might have the technology.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: But that technology is so insane to like get that
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: far in any amount.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Of time unless you have the right like if unless
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: they have a completely different propulsion system they've worked out
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: in that I mean, But that's what next week's episode
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: is about.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: It's about whether the improbability drive. I'm a big fan
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: of Douglas Adams.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's about whether the government is hiding free energy sources
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: from us, and whether those free energy sources are the
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: result of reverse engineered.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, they would have to have something like that,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: as we said earlier, And yeah, I don't I don't know.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: It's tough for me to see any sort of pot
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: like what would be perceived on the whole is a
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: positive outcome from alien interaction.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I have a hard time believing that this alien sentient
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: alien group would pour all of their resources into an
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: energy source that would allow them to travel here in
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: like a livable time frame and not use any of
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: those resources or any of that energy in a weaponized way.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: They might little, I mean, they could be the most
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: benevolent society in the universe that decide to come visit
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: us first, But I don't know. That even seems a
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: little far.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Fast is one of the theories that's out there though,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: is that, yes, there are alien civilizations.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: We've made contact with us. It's just they're cool.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah they don't care.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well not even that they don't care. They like
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: want to help.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, oh, hey, here have some stuff.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: He goes stupid.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Rich Davis says we could just get them hooked on
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: oxy conton or something, And I think that's a good idea.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: That is not the worst idea, it's a pretty good idea.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Detention centers, Yeah, hey, along the border between Earth and
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: outer space, that's going to create jobs.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we've got to create jobs for the aliens.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah what No, no yet, I mean America first, we
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: got to build jobs keeping the aliens.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Great. The aliens are gonna take our chi I think
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: that's our best lot of defense. Give them the jobs.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: What if they're like homeless aliens like in District nine.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that that's that would be a possible just
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: stranded here. Yeah, and we have to go on refugees.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would get really intense.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I bet it would look kind of like District I think.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So that's one of the reasons I like that movie.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: That movie is straight, but like, yeah, I think I
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: like Chappie too. I think Chappie gets a raw deal
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: because it's called Chappy. Yeah, and that the robot sounds
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: like Charlton Kochley and is called Chappy. I think that
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: makes people like be like, oh, that's fucking stupid.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fun. I thought it was great. It
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: was a good time. Uh so, yeah, that's Chappy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: That's our episode.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Unless anyone has any final thoughts on the aliens landing,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I just I think I'm afraid we're gonna shoot at him.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I'm all for it on that lady on the roof
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: at the end, like in when in Los Angeles and
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Independence Day with the sign like we're yeah, welcome as
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: the laser gout.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: That's me. That's that's who I am in that movie.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just ready.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, my sign will even say like kill us.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be that kind of like you might as
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: well just embrace it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Blast.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, I just
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: would rather know than not know. I know that like
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: they're here and they exist, even if I'm like seconds
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: away from incineration. I just want to know.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: I'm honestly, Yeah, I for really, I'm all about aliens.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I think it would be dope if they showed up.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I would love to talk to one. I'd love to
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: meet one and hang out. I thought Arrival was great. Yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: that would be the first thing I'd tell them. I'd
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: be like, hey, I get you a rival, right circle
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: circle writing, I get it.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: It's in all directions.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be that type, Like the kind of
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: luck I have. It would end for me like the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: movie version of Stephen King's The Mist, Like I'd be
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: out there waiting and like an alien would just like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: be open to it, not knowing, Like fifteen feet behind me,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: there's some government vehicle broadcasting a sick know that's like, hey,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: they die in the dark. We're just gonna shut the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: power right down overnight. Yeah, by on this half of
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: the planet tonight, the other half tomorrow.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Just stay outside, make it through space.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Explosions. Explosions in space.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of grow lights on those.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they bought a kid. Yeah. So that's our episode.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: This was a lot of fun. Thank you all for
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: doing it. Don't I appreciate it? What do we have
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: to plug before we get out of here? Come to
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: our backyard show July sixth Uh, Olivia's on it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: There's so many people on it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Olivia's on it, Vanessa Gritton is on it. I am
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: on it. Chat Wilde.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: We're doing comedy.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: We're doing a live episode of Unpopular Opinion, which will
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: be the three hundredth episode. Oh wow. And we're doing
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: new Metal Trivia with.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna run the table on this new middle.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I thought it would be funny if we bill it
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: as that and then just do regular trivia but with
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: someone playing like a guitar and I can bring my guitar,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: tune down to drop D a D seven string guitar
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: behind us.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: And just like be, just like drive along. I can
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: play Faint by Lincoln Park.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then otherwise just regular trivia bar trivia. Uh.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: So come to that and subscribe on Patreon for bonus
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: episodes of all our stuff.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Olivia, what do you have to Plug?
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at high Air hidar
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: uh and you can listen to me on my podcast
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: on the un Pops Network. It's called Lowest Common Phenomenator,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: co hosted by the previously mentioned Vanessa Gritton, who's great.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Love her, and yeah, we talked about a lot of
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: garbage culture. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk about a
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: bunch of the movies that we mentioned today, definitely Independence Day.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's fun. Check that out and you can
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: find the pod on Twitter at low com phenom.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Nice Grant, What do you got to Plug?
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on a sketch group called night Church, So
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: come see us. It's every fourth Sunday at the Pac
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Theater on Santa Monica Boulevard nine thirty. We just had
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: to show this past weekend. It was great. We got
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: another one come up next month. Come on see it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: You can find us on social media at Facebook and Instagram.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Is Hail night Church h A I L night Church
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: like all those words are normally spelled. We're also on YouTube.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: It's oh it's night Church Comedy is our handle on YouTube.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: We're on Twitter. I think that's also Hail Night Church.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: I personally don't have any social media because I'm a dumb.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: But if you want to email me or chat me
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: through one of our night church channels, I will happily
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: find a way to respond through someone else to you.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I'll put rants email and phone number in all the tweets.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Am I allowed to dox myself?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Today home address?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I got a lot of got several different ATM pins,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: but I will don't worry. I'll I'll give you an
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Excel spreadsheet with all of them so it's easy to
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: keep up with.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: All Right, let's get the fuck out of here.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Olivia.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Say goodbye bye, Grant, say goodbye bye goodbye everybody. We
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: love you. People you can't excels, be sure