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- 0:04Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back.
- 0:11We've nationally acclaimed professional organizer Christine
- 0:14Stone and self-proclaimed Hot Damn Mess radio and TV
- 0:19personality Eden Kendall. Welcome everyone to uncluttered
- 0:22and unfiltered word, the podcast for women over 50.
- 0:25I'm Eden and Christine Stone is with me, professional organizer
- 0:29and like every episode starting last week and moving forward,
- 0:34she will have a nice juicy tidbit for you on organizing at
- 0:38the end of the episode, right? Yes, every episode I'm going to
- 0:41give you just one little tip on how to start organizing.
- 0:46So every week you need to listen because I see this all the time,
- 0:50so I'm sharing it with you. And we do have entire episodes
- 0:54that focus on maybe one section of the house.
- 0:56And if you go back through our our library, you'll find those.
- 0:59We have a ladies only Facebook group and we asked you recently.
- 1:06Let me read it to you as I wrote it, ladies, for an upcoming
- 1:09episode, which is of course, this one.
- 1:11Did you experience a paramenopausal meltdown where
- 1:15you either did something drastic or came close to it?
- 1:18Blowing up a relationship, quitting a job, something that
- 1:21was likely looking back, driven by hormones.
- 1:25Let us know in the comments. And you guys came through as you
- 1:29typically do. Trudy was telling us a little
- 1:32bit about how, you know, over the age of 35, she was starting
- 1:38to get all kinds of laundry list of symptoms and things like
- 1:41that. And she would take it out on
- 1:43other people. And we had Angelique who
- 1:46messaged us saying that it was really like a storm, you know,
- 1:50just everything going on was like a storm.
- 1:52Nancy also commented and said that she was really in the midst
- 1:57of it because she had her only child at the age of 44 and then
- 2:00went immediately in the metabause.
- 2:02Oh my God, that's terrible. Poor Nancy, Poor.
- 2:05Nancy Gosh. So this is something that even
- 2:09during that Oprah special they discussed, and what they talked
- 2:12about was that there was like a high number of divorce cases
- 2:15that were attributed to perimenopause.
- 2:18Yep, Yep. And I, I brought this up to you
- 2:22because I feel like when I was in perimenopause, I was just,
- 2:29there were times I was super happy, but then I was a time
- 2:32bomb about to explode. I think that people do not talk
- 2:37about perimenopause is well, back then they didn't talk about
- 2:42it at all. It was like, sorry, you know,
- 2:44you have to wait till you don't get a period for your, your good
- 2:47luck and have a nice life. And you're like, what?
- 2:51Of course now people do talk about and they're trying to be
- 2:54more open about it and they're trying to help people that are
- 2:56going through it, which I think is fabulous.
- 2:59But I could see, can't you see going through that and saying
- 3:04like your husband like moves a fork a certain way.
- 3:07You're like, Oh my God, that's it.
- 3:08We're done. I can't live with you cannot
- 3:11live like this anymore. Can't do it.
- 3:15Or. I mean, I have, I I've had
- 3:18friends who, you know, ended marriages over that kind of
- 3:21thing. Like we're like brother and
- 3:23sister now because. Yeah, you know why?
- 3:25Because perimenopause, you have no sexual feelings.
- 3:27It's not him, it's you, Right, Right.
- 3:30And that's. Listen, I know there are
- 3:31situations. This is not here to.
- 3:33We're not here to sit there and judge whether or not you made a
- 3:35mistake or something because you ended a marriage.
- 3:37I mean, certainly there are a lot of reasons where you, you
- 3:39had to, or maybe you did it and you're way better off for it.
- 3:43But I remember being going through a phase like in my, I
- 3:47want to say mid 40s where I definitely wasn't my, my focus
- 3:52was more on myself than it probably, you know, then I mean,
- 3:56really what needed my attention then were my, my family, you
- 3:59know, my family needed more attention.
- 4:01You know, the kids are in high school.
- 4:02My son was kind of goofing off. You know, there was all kinds of
- 4:04things where my focus really should have been.
- 4:07And I was all about, you know, just let's go hang out with
- 4:10friends and let's, let's do you know, I just think that that was
- 4:14looking back, but there were some definite things that
- 4:20menopause did. And a lot of people don't know
- 4:23my story exactly where I was working in radio and then I was
- 4:27working in radio and TV simultaneously.
- 4:29And then one had to go and I was like 1's a lot more work.
- 4:33I have to get ready and get free everyday and blah, blah, blah.
- 4:36So I quit. And when I I started to regret
- 4:39it and after 2 1/2 years, it worked out where I was able to
- 4:42resume that position and leave the radio.
- 4:45But my point is, I think menopause had a lot to do with
- 4:49me making that decision to leave.
- 4:51TVI came back to it, but I think that I was feeling ugly, I was
- 4:57feeling old, I was feeling worn out.
- 4:59And so I blew up a pretty good situation.
- 5:02It worked out beautifully, but I did.
- 5:07I just exploded it. I was like, I just can't do it
- 5:09anymore. People are like, are you crazy?
- 5:10That is such a good job. Like I just, I just don't want
- 5:13to see myself on camera. I don't want to have people
- 5:17message me about what I wore today.
- 5:18I just couldn't take it. That would be.
- 5:20Tough. That would be tough.
- 5:22Right at menopause. But I also think, I think women
- 5:27in general at some point in their life feel like blowing up
- 5:33their life. Like whether they have toddlers
- 5:36running around and they haven't washed their hair in, you know,
- 5:392 weeks and they don't want to make another dinner and they're
- 5:43tired or you know what I mean? Like perimenopause, menopause,
- 5:49that it's not like they want to do it on purpose.
- 5:53They don't have a healthy way to do it.
- 5:58You know what I mean? Like, I feel like every woman at
- 6:02some point in their life has said, I'm going to ditch
- 6:05everybody. I'm going to get my car and I'm
- 6:07going to go live on an island and I'm just going to be by
- 6:12myself and no one will be able to bug me and I won't have to
- 6:16worry about anything. And then of course, the next day
- 6:19you wake up and a lot of times you don't follow through with
- 6:23it, but a lot of times people do follow through with it.
- 6:26They're like I'm done. But if you had your family or
- 6:31your significant other or your best friend watch the movie that
- 6:34plays in your mind sometimes where you walk through the
- 6:38blowing up of your life, they would commit you.
- 6:42I mean, they would Baker out you so fast.
- 6:45I'm not trying to be lighthearted.
- 6:47I'm saying. I know.
- 6:49You know, I mean, if you ever had that, you know, fantasy of
- 6:52like, what would it be like right now if all of the sudden,
- 6:55and I'm talking about young women, I can't even remember the
- 6:59TV show I was watching where the ladies were like, you know, I
- 7:01just sometimes fantasize about being a widow.
- 7:04You were like, you said that out loud.
- 7:07You can't say that out loud, you know, I mean, sometimes you
- 7:12just, you know, hormones are a funny thing and and you can't
- 7:16overstate it enough. Well, don't you think sometimes
- 7:19though, people are in a lot of pain?
- 7:22Well, sure. And and so that's part of it.
- 7:25Like they're in so much pain, they don't see another way out.
- 7:28They're like, I'm just going to throw it all away.
- 7:31And, you know, like when your friend has said that to you, or
- 7:35I've had a friend that has said that to me and I'm like, don't
- 7:37do it. You're, you know, think about
- 7:39this like, let's talk it through through.
- 7:42You don't want to make a rash decision that you may regret,
- 7:45you know, and then you you feed, you know, you go back and forth
- 7:49and you kind of try to reason with somebody on why this may be
- 7:55a decision they haven't thought out really well.
- 7:59And I think everybody, that's why everyone needs a really good
- 8:02girlfriend to talk you out of some things sometimes.
- 8:06I mean, because what you feel, how we say this to my kids, what
- 8:12you feel in your 30s is going to be different than what you feel
- 8:16in your 50s. And what you feel in your 40s is
- 8:18going to be different than what you feel in your 60s.
- 8:21And everyone thinks they know best.
- 8:23Everyone thinks when they're at AI know better.
- 8:26You don't understand. We've all said that too.
- 8:29You don't understand. And then I've had friends years
- 8:34later, like 1520 years later, say, I think I was in
- 8:39perimenopause or something because I kind of would have
- 8:43liked to be married to my first husband, you know, the man who
- 8:47was the father of my children versus someone who really
- 8:52doesn't really care much about my kids.
- 8:54He tolerates them. But you know what I'm saying?
- 8:57Like, yes, I, I just think sometimes people make rash
- 9:01decisions because there's so many reasons.
- 9:05Some. Of that, you have to think some
- 9:08of that is going to be cleaning up your memory a little bit like
- 9:12maybe, you know, maybe giving the guy a little more credit
- 9:16than he really is due because hindsight is not really 2020, to
- 9:20be honest. Sometimes hindsight, you
- 9:22remember people in a better light than that they really
- 9:25were. I mean, it's just like when
- 9:26someone breaks up with somebody who's a jerk, but all they can
- 9:29remember is that he was great, you know, But I see your point
- 9:33in that there are a lot of people who are like, you know
- 9:35what, right now he's just not doing it for me.
- 9:37Or I'm just not, you know, I can't live like this.
- 9:39And then, you know, you're then you're in your 50s, you're
- 9:43you're a homebody now. And he's healthy, happy and, and
- 9:47living his best life. And you're like, man, you know,
- 9:51I should have stuck it out. Right I.
- 9:53Should have stayed. Also, I think sometimes it's
- 9:57self sabotage, like when things are going really, really,
- 10:00really, really well in your life and all of a sudden you go, I
- 10:03need some drama or I have to blow this up or I don't deserve
- 10:06this or whatever it is. You kind of self sabotage
- 10:11anything good going on in your life.
- 10:14Yeah, the drama, the butterflies, the drama, the even
- 10:17being sad sometimes when you're feeling nothing.
- 10:20Feeling. Sad is better than, nothing is
- 10:23better than. Nothing for some people.
- 10:25Now I, I don't feel like in this group, we need to do the
- 10:28disclaimer of like, you know, really, please seek professional
- 10:31help. And mental illness is very, you
- 10:33know, big cause for some of this.
- 10:35But what we are saying is if you're like, OK, that's not me.
- 10:38What I'm feeling is just angst and boredom.
- 10:41You're not alone. You know, hormones play a role,
- 10:44and certainly it's worth looking into that, you know, looking
- 10:48into it with your physician, you know.
- 10:51Well, and also sometimes when you hit a certain age in your
- 10:5540s and in your 50s, you think to yourself, is this all there
- 11:00is? Is that it?
- 11:02I mean, that's it and you're. And that's why people blow up
- 11:06their lives because they think there's something better out
- 11:09there and they're missing out and maybe they are.
- 11:14I mean, who am I to say? I have no idea, but sometimes
- 11:19you just think that way. But but it may not really be
- 11:22true. You may not really be missing
- 11:24out on what you think. Sometimes, like especially in
- 11:27perimenopause, you feel that way because you're like, Oh my God,
- 11:30I'm not getting any younger. And I have like a few more years
- 11:34left till I have these great looks still and then I'm going
- 11:36to just be some old like, you know what I mean?
- 11:39You start talking to yourself like.
- 11:41That if I don't make this change now, I never will.
- 11:43No one's going to hire me when I'm 50 9, but if I, if I leave
- 11:49now, I have a chance of getting higher somewhere or, you know,
- 11:52from a perspective of like telling someone off, you know,
- 11:55I'm just not going to take it anymore.
- 11:57I'm I'm too old to take so and so's BS.
- 12:00I'm just going to start telling them off.
- 12:02Well, you know what, probably you should sleep on it.
- 12:07Yes, probably. You should write a letter and
- 12:10put it somewhere and don't send it, you know, because right now
- 12:14your hormones are raging. And I the same me that used to
- 12:18say like, how dare you say are you on your period every time
- 12:21I'm in a bad mood? How?
- 12:22Dare you discount my real feelings and say it's emotion
- 12:26and this is the same me. That's like, hey, I was
- 12:28hormonal, right? Right.
- 12:30Give me a break. Right, right.
- 12:32Kind of a hypocritical thing, but.
- 12:35Well, I just think it's good that people are talking about
- 12:38this now because I would have loved to have heard this when I
- 12:41was in my 40s and even early 50s.
- 12:44I think, you know, when you're going through lack of hormones,
- 12:50things are going to go up and down and up and down and you
- 12:54just need to, like you said, talk to someone, maybe get your
- 13:00hormones regulated, whatever, whatever is going on.
- 13:03But think before you do kind of blow up your life, because
- 13:08sometimes you can't go backwards.
- 14:57And I also think a lot of times, well, there's a couple more
- 15:00things. One is, especially younger
- 15:04people, instant gratification. If you're not getting things
- 15:08instantly, then you're like, I'm out of here.
- 15:11That this, I'm not happy. And it's like what, we've only
- 15:14been together like a month or whatever it is, or I didn't get
- 15:19the purse I wanted or I didn't. Whatever it is, it's always like
- 15:24if right now what's going on in the world is instant
- 15:27gratification and if not, you're leaving, it's over.
- 15:32I'm moving on. You know, back in our day, as
- 15:37you hear me say, back in our day, you didn't think like that
- 15:41as much. You didn't think, oh, well, I
- 15:43mean, things took time. You.
- 15:46Couldn't get something the next day.
- 15:47If you ordered it online, you couldn't order it online, you
- 15:49had to send away. Right, right.
- 15:51Or you had to get up and go to the store.
- 15:53What a concept. Horrible.
- 15:56What a horrible idea. Right.
- 15:58And also, I think when people blow up their life, this is just
- 16:03my opinion, There's some trauma that has never been discussed,
- 16:08talked about or anything. And so you don't know how to
- 16:13process because you're kind of living through that experience
- 16:17all the time, over and over, over and over.
- 16:20And so you're like, screw it, I'm just going to blow up my
- 16:23life so I don't have to think about it.
- 16:25But what people don't realize is then you bring it into the next
- 16:28relationship, the next place you move because feel like I'll move
- 16:32to a town like Mayberry RFD where nobody knows anybody and I
- 16:37can start fresh. And you know, and it just, it
- 16:42everything follows you wherever you go.
- 16:44It's like unresolved. There is a, there is a story and
- 16:49it's local to us and I actually almost feel bad telling the
- 16:52story because I actually do know this woman and met her years
- 16:56after the fact and she's very lovely.
- 16:59But she you may remember this, it was on Dateline or some of
- 17:04those. Other shows I'll know then.
- 17:06Yes, where she faked her own kidnapping.
- 17:10The Sherry Papini 1. No, she, this woman, is alive
- 17:14and well, living in our community.
- 17:15Oh, she yeah. I'm not going to I.
- 17:17Don't want to say a name? Yeah.
- 17:18Don't. Didn't say a name, but I
- 17:20actually took a fitness class from her a few years back.
- 17:23Then I put it together. I'm like, that's so and so.
- 17:26But she, I mean, it was a whole big thing where I mean, you
- 17:29know. She blew up her life.
- 17:31Blew up her life basically. And bad blow up too.
- 17:34Meta dude and they did a whole paper where there was a ransom
- 17:40demand on the husband it. Was a Sher.
- 17:42It was a Sherry pubini. Yeah, basically.
- 17:46I mean, you know. Basically.
- 17:48But that's that's unresolved trauma right there.
- 17:51Because that's more than just one.
- 17:53That's more than just hormone. Right, because.
- 17:55But it was. Exacerbated by being in that
- 17:57point of your life where you're just perfect storm everything
- 18:02hits at once. Yeah.
- 18:05I mean, you know, I think that's very drastic though, to do that
- 18:08to your kids, your mother, your husband.
- 18:11I mean, that's some drastic stuff there.
- 18:13Now I'm saying that was drastic, but that that is an example of
- 18:17just everything coming to a head where, you know, you're not
- 18:21thinking obviously past the moment.
- 18:25You know, you're like, this is what's going to get me through
- 18:28this moment versus what's going to happen in 15 years when these
- 18:32women do a podcast and they're still talking about it.
- 18:36Exactly. I agree.
- 18:38I think that people don't stop, take a breath, think about what
- 18:45they're going to do it. Like I said, it still may be the
- 18:48right thing. And then at least you said I did
- 18:50think about it, I really did. I thought about the
- 18:52consequences, but I'm still ready to do it.
- 18:56Well, I say then, at least you thought it through.
- 19:00Yep exactly, that just reminded me of that movie.
- 19:04What was the movie with Bette Midler where I think it was
- 19:07Bette Midler where she was being held hostage in?
- 19:09The Oh yeah. Negotiate and, she said.
- 19:11Am I being marked down? Right, Right.
- 19:13Yeah. Yep, Yep.
- 19:15Exactly. Or that movie Gone Girl.
- 19:18I mean, Oh my gosh. The same thing.
- 19:21She just, she was setting this whole thing up to just blow up
- 19:24her life. So yeah, those movies I like, by
- 19:27the way. Those women are always in their
- 19:2940s. They're never in their 50s like.
- 19:30Never. It's always in their 40s.
- 19:33Which brings us to the perimenopause thing.
- 19:36So. Exactly, that's my point.
- 19:38And I mean, there's no, there's no denying that varying levels
- 19:43of trauma in your past will get you to, you know, we'll start
- 19:45the cycle. But there is a reason this is
- 19:48all happening in your 40s. Yeah, I agree.
- 19:52So let's talk about something a little brighter.
- 19:55Let's talk about the other question before we get to your
- 20:00tip, your organizational tip, as long as you know that was a
- 20:03question that blowing up your life question was one we asked
- 20:06general ladies only group. But there was another question
- 20:08we asked and it was this was a just for fun question and I
- 20:11found it somewhere and thought I'd share it.
- 20:13It was basically what is something you own that you're
- 20:15fairly sure that nobody else in this group.
- 20:18Meaning our uncluttered and unfiltered Facebook ladies only
- 20:21group you're fairly certain nobody else owns or probably not
- 20:24many people own. And of all the great answers we
- 20:27got, the the one that I think wins the prize, if somebody is
- 20:30going to win a prize was by a lady named Brandy who says
- 20:35donkeys. I feel really sure that donkeys,
- 20:38that she's the only one in our group that has donkeys.
- 20:41I think that's probably. Yeah, I don't know anyone that
- 20:44owns a donkey. That is unbelievable.
- 20:47What do you think yours would be if you had to to say like
- 20:50something that you own that you're pretty sure not
- 20:53everybody, you know, not not a lot of people in our group own.
- 20:56Well, I don't know if a lot of people in our group own it, but
- 20:59I could buy. I have two face masks but I
- 21:03could buy another one tomorrow like that.
- 21:05So having multiple, multiple red light.
- 21:08Masks, yeah, I would use them more than one.
- 21:11I have two and I definitely use both of them.
- 21:13I use them on alternating days and I love it.
- 21:18I, I think that anything I'm I'm a new gadget kind of gal and
- 21:24you'll hear in upcoming episodes and I, I love gadgets.
- 21:27There's probably a gadget you have that's something nobody
- 21:30else has because they haven't heard about it yet.
- 21:32You probably have something there that isn't going to be new
- 21:35to us, I bet. I have products that I have that
- 21:38I don't think people have, yeah. Yeah, so I have monkey bars
- 21:43across the top of my garage. Yeah, I definitely don't.
- 21:48I definitely don't have those. No how, No way.
- 21:52I'm pretty sure nobody else in our group has that.
- 21:55Maybe, I don't know. It could be wrong.
- 21:57It could be wrong. You let us know.
- 21:58But that's one of the questions we're asking now.
- 22:02Very excited. Are you ready?
- 22:04I'm ready, tip. Of the week.
- 22:06Tip of the week. Group got.
- 22:08Group like items together. I say this all the time and so
- 22:14I'm going to explain it a little bit.
- 22:16If you keep all your light bulbs together, all your batteries
- 22:19together, all your spaghetti sauce and jars of spaghetti
- 22:23sauce, all your pasta, all your green beans, keeping like items
- 22:29together saves time and it saves money.
- 22:32Whether it's in a bathroom with your makeup, keep all your
- 22:35mascara together, all your under eye cream together.
- 22:40Because the minute you stop doing that, you are just
- 22:44inviting clutter into your home. Because you're re buying more of
- 22:48the same thing. Because it's scattered all
- 22:51throughout and you can't remember you have it.
- 22:55And you buy more and it takes you so much longer to get ready
- 22:59because you're always searching for something.
- 23:02OK, so let me give you an example of something that I
- 23:06could go a couple different places, a sewing kit where?
- 23:09Where would the sewing kit go? I mean, it's the only, I only
- 23:13have one. I don't have anything else.
- 23:16Like that I don't sew, but if I did sew I feel like I'd either
- 23:20keep it in my bedroom with other items like that.
- 23:24Or I it would be an item. Like that, I mean tape or like,
- 23:29do you mean like a travel one? Like a little.
- 23:31I would keep it with travel stuff.
- 23:33I don't think I I mean, I think something like that.
- 23:37Now, if you're talking like you're a seamstress, well,
- 23:40that's a different story. But everybody has those little
- 23:43travel like sewing kits. Yeah.
- 23:45That should be in your hanging toiletry bag, your your zip
- 23:51zipped up bag that you keep for all your travel stuff with your
- 23:55travel items in a trap like in a guest room.
- 23:58If you keep all your suitcases and offseason items, have a bin
- 24:04with a lid and label it travel. That's where those type of items
- 24:08go because if you don't, you'll never find it when you need it.
- 24:13I guess that would be if a button would fall off or you
- 24:15need to hem your pants. I would not have the talent to
- 24:19do that, but I know people do and so that's something that I
- 24:25would do is put it with travel items.
- 24:26The reason I chose that item is that's the one thing that I I
- 24:30never can find what I want it never.
- 24:34I had something ripped the other day and I was going to just sew
- 24:36it on it. I could not find that sewing kit
- 24:38and I know I have it somewhere in this house.
- 24:41Right. And that's my point.
- 24:43If everything has a home and if it's labeled and you keep all
- 24:48your like items together, you won't you won't be searching.
- 24:51And searching is what takes up a lot of time.
- 24:55And it makes moms late to get the kids to school.
- 24:58Dads late. Everybody's late looking for
- 25:02something, OK. And it it's just a vicious cycle
- 25:06because you're constantly looking for something.
- 25:10OK, that's an excellent tip. That is a good one.
- 25:13Like items together, make a note, make it a project until we
- 25:17meet again. Maybe if you have something
- 25:19that's just kind of randomly placed in your home, try to
- 25:22think about some other things that would fall into that
- 25:23category. I mean, well, or start, start
- 25:27small, like maybe this weekend. Corral all batteries in your
- 25:32house. Corral all light bulbs in your
- 25:34house. Corral all rags.
- 25:36You know take one part of the weekend and just start
- 25:40corralling like items and putting them in bins and
- 25:44labeling them. Or just put a post it note on
- 25:47it. If you don't have a label maker
- 25:49do something or a dry erase marker.
- 25:53You can write on any bin with a dry erase marker and when you
- 25:59want to change it, just wipe it off with some water.
- 26:02It's simple, inexpensive, easy to do, but I'm telling you it
- 26:07will save you time and money. If you liked that tip, we do
- 26:11have entire episodes that focus on different areas of your home,
- 26:15so go back through our library and find the one that you most
- 26:18want to get organized. But moving forward, we're going
- 26:22to have one of these tips every single week, so we hope you like
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