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  Speaker 1: Pedo Kranlin live on Skyins Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Here's what's coming out
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  Speaker 2: tonight on Kredlin. Punishment for Labour. In the latest News
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  Speaker 2: poll their primary vote at the equal lowest level since
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  Speaker 2: the election.
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  Speaker 3: Voters are fed up with Labour's.
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  Speaker 2: Niche causes like the voice, while they've been hit with
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  Speaker 2: cost of living pain which they say the Prime Minister's
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  Speaker 2: got no plans viesus first security check second for that's
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  Speaker 2: now been uncovered. Revelations at some Palestidians managed to arrive
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  Speaker 2: in Australia before an azy O check was even carried out.
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  Speaker 2: Shadow Immigration Minister Dan Tien with more class, a big
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  Speaker 2: U campaign to fight back against plans for the Green
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  Speaker 2: Left to ban gas. Is the tide starting to turn?
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  Speaker 3: While it could be I'll speak to the man behind
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  Speaker 3: the campaign a little later on.
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  Speaker 2: And Peter Dutton has ramped up the battle over the
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  Speaker 2: best options throughout energy. Has it becomes clear that renewal
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  Speaker 2: walls only approach or that just won't cut it.
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  Speaker 1: Nowhere in the world has a renewable only policy worked.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever renewables are overbuilt and there's insufficient base. Lad firming power.
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  Speaker 1: The story is the same one of skyrocketing costs of
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  Speaker 1: unreliable grids and energy rationing.
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  Speaker 2: But first, another day and another shocking pole for the
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  Speaker 2: Albanezy gapment. This latest one from News poll published in
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  Speaker 2: The Australian shows a primary support for Labours dipped to
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  Speaker 2: thirty one percent. Now that's the equal lowest level since
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two election, when back then only three
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  Speaker 2: out of every ten voters back the prime minister. But
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  Speaker 2: even with that very low primary Labour still won the election.
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  Speaker 2: Such was the electoral antipathy for Scott Morrison. But since then,
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  Speaker 2: just by two years in power, Anthony Albenezy has failed
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  Speaker 2: to consolidate his win. If you consider his primary vote
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  Speaker 2: on election day of thirty two point six percent and
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  Speaker 2: today's primary vote of thirty one percent, he's gone backwards.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a big problem because alban Easy doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: the usual first term landslide of Hawk, Howard, Rudd or Abbott.
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  Speaker 2: If he goes backwards even a little, he goes out
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  Speaker 2: of office. Now, aside from these macro polling numbers, what
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  Speaker 2: else this News poll shows is how hard cost of
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  Speaker 2: living is worrying voters and it's this worry about making
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  Speaker 2: ends meet that's making a lot of Labour's traditional base
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  Speaker 2: feel like the ole party of the worker has abandoned them.
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  Speaker 2: Housing beeit, rents or mortgage repayments, groceries, energy bills, insurance
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  Speaker 2: costs and transport in that order. Only four percent of
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  Speaker 2: those survey said they had no cost of living worries.
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  Speaker 2: That's telling in two party of five terms.
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  Speaker 3: This is the third use.
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  Speaker 2: Poll in a row where Labour's fifty to fifty with
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  Speaker 2: the coalition one's preferences are distributed, and that shows the
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  Speaker 2: power of the Greens in the current electoral state of play.
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  Speaker 2: It's why Labour keeps heading further and further out on
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  Speaker 2: the green fringe on issues, trying to woo the Green
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  Speaker 2: voter back into the Labor fold. But in doing that
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  Speaker 2: they leave the sensible, centrist labor type, the old blue
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  Speaker 2: collar worker who's got no time for the woke.
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  Speaker 3: Out in the cold.
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  Speaker 2: Skeward's the best way to describe the dilemma Labor finds
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  Speaker 2: itself in under its most left wing.
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  Speaker 3: Leader in generations.
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  Speaker 2: The other problem they've got themselves into was the fact
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  Speaker 2: that Australia's exceedingly short three year. Electoral terms mean that
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  Speaker 2: having blown one completely blown a whole year completely on
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  Speaker 2: the voice, or one third of their term, Labour's running
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  Speaker 2: out of time for every year it was if the
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  Speaker 2: the government ground to a halt while the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: talked about the voice day in, day out, and only
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  Speaker 2: the voice. It was a feature of every press conference,
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  Speaker 2: every speech was although he was consumed by it and
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  Speaker 2: little else cut through.
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  Speaker 4: This is a modest request, I say to you, I
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  Speaker 4: say to Australia, don't miss it.
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  Speaker 5: Don't miss it.
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  Speaker 2: So who's surprised then that voters doing a tough say
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  Speaker 2: the government doesn't give a toss about them when they
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  Speaker 2: think the Prime Minister went missing.
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  Speaker 3: When they needed him most.
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  Speaker 2: And even then after the voice was lost, rather than
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  Speaker 2: get back to his day job, Albineazy appeared to sulk.
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  Speaker 2: When he wasn't sulking, he looked pretty comfortable in the
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  Speaker 2: corporate box at the tennis of the footy or overseas at.
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  Speaker 3: An international event.
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  Speaker 2: During this time, we now know what was going on
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  Speaker 2: Insietise government. He had cooked up a secret plan to
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  Speaker 2: bring people out of Gaza on tourist visas not announced
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  Speaker 2: at the time. This was all in the aftermath of
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  Speaker 2: the Voice, but uncovered in November last year by an
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  Speaker 2: ABC journalist. We know that then Immigration Minister Andrew Giles
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  Speaker 2: was letting foreign criminals out of jail and doing very
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  Speaker 2: little to monitor their movements. We know that instead of
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  Speaker 2: getting their own records spending down, the Treasurer was jawbone
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  Speaker 2: in the RBA to escapegoat them over rising housing costs.
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  Speaker 3: See why a Prime.
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  Speaker 2: Minister who's in a funk about losing the Voice matters
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  Speaker 2: because when he lost his mojo, Australian suffered and they're
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  Speaker 2: still suffering now. Labour's only plan to help with cost
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  Speaker 2: of living is to subsidize low income earners with measures
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  Speaker 2: such as energy supplements, saw its build to rent schemes,
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  Speaker 2: But these all just mask the bigger problem. The band
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  Speaker 2: aids on a bullet wound because they don't tackle the
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  Speaker 2: underlying cause of pricing pain. The government keeps talking about
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  Speaker 2: the jobs have created since the election, but most of
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  Speaker 2: these jobs the jobs dependent on government subsidies, such as
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  Speaker 2: jobs in the so called care economy, nearly all of
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  Speaker 2: which are more or less government funded, like jobs in
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  Speaker 2: the NDIS or childcare centers. And it's ethnically wrong for
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  Speaker 2: the government to spend up big in ways that are
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  Speaker 2: likely to boost job numbers short term, but will ultimately
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  Speaker 2: make a bad situation worse because government spending at anything
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  Speaker 2: like these levels is unsustainable. At some stage, all these
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  Speaker 2: subsidized jobs could largely disappear thanks to record migration. Australia's
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  Speaker 2: populations now hit twenty seven million last week. But GDP
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  Speaker 2: per capita, or the average wealth of us as individuals,
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  Speaker 2: well that's been going backwards for six quarters. Here's the paradox.
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  Speaker 2: Because the population's been growing, that size of the economic
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  Speaker 2: pies increased, But the share of the pie, which is
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  Speaker 2: what each of us get as individuals or as a household,
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  Speaker 2: well that's been shrinking because the newcomer is on balance,
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  Speaker 2: are not as productive as people here already. And you
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  Speaker 2: don't need me to tell you that things agree. The
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  Speaker 2: cost of living's hurting you know better than anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is your government doesn't have a solution. It's
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  Speaker 2: only plans to throw more of your money at the problem.
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  Speaker 2: But that's robbing Peter to pay. Paul, ask yourself this
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  Speaker 2: as a voter. Since the government changed in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: what's got better for you, Is our economy stronger, is
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  Speaker 2: our country more cohesive? Does your job feel safer? Have
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  Speaker 2: you got some financial breathing space? Now voters can't answer
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  Speaker 2: a question like that with a positive, then the government's
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  Speaker 2: in trouble. And that's where we are tonight. Labor is
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  Speaker 2: in trouble and fast running.
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  Speaker 3: Out of time.
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  Speaker 2: In the Federal Court in Melbourne, the more deeming John
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  Speaker 2: Perzuto trial continued into its second week as a number
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  Speaker 2: of Liberal MP's took to the stand to defend Deemi. Now,
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  Speaker 2: under the rules of the court, I can't show you
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  Speaker 2: any of the footage, but all of them, Kim Wells,
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  Speaker 2: Joe McCracken, Ryan Smith, David Hodgett, as well as Richard
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  Speaker 2: Dan and Renee Heath, all of them backing in her
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  Speaker 2: version of events over that.
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  Speaker 3: Of their party leader.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's astonishing because it means that for all of
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  Speaker 2: them their careers are effectively dead, while Perzuto remains the leader.
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  Speaker 2: And played out in the court today were hours of
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  Speaker 2: media footage, including press conferences from Perzuto at the time
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  Speaker 2: that seemed very much at odds with that secretly recorded
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  Speaker 2: audio of a meeting in a four or against one
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  Speaker 2: pylon that occurred on the Sunday after that infamous rally.
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  Speaker 2: Also played in the court was my interview with Perzuto
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  Speaker 2: on the Monday after the rally, the day he announced
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  Speaker 2: that he would try and expel Deeming. I can't find
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  Speaker 2: her being involved in a panel or speaking on a
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  Speaker 2: platform with any of these characters, but she has not
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  Speaker 2: that I can see, had anything to.
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  Speaker 3: Do with them.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I've annotated the material that I've now circulated to
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  Speaker 6: the party room. We've gone through that and cited the
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  Speaker 6: references for the material we've put So I'm interested to
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  Speaker 6: know what coast.
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  Speaker 2: Parks what is it because I've seen that she has
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  Speaker 2: been interviewed by someone who years earlier has interviewed them,
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  Speaker 2: but she's not shared a platform.
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  Speaker 6: She's There's been various protests or videos or discussion groups.
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  Speaker 6: There's a list of them that I've got in there,
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  Speaker 6: and I can't recall them off the top of my
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  Speaker 6: head here.
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  Speaker 2: But if she, if more a Deeming is going to
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  Speaker 2: be expelled from the Liberal Party because she was involved
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  Speaker 2: in the organization of an event with a UK woman
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  Speaker 2: who was interviewed by someone, and that person interviewed someone
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  Speaker 2: that we all you and I both think is pretty reprehensible.
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  Speaker 2: That's like ten degrees of separation to throw someone out
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  Speaker 2: of the party.
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  Speaker 5: Is that what it's about.
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  Speaker 6: No, there's more than that, And there's a range of
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  Speaker 6: events or interviews discussions that we've referenced in the material,
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  Speaker 6: So it's not just one.
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  Speaker 5: There's a fuller list of things that we've done.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to make this list public?
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  Speaker 5: I will look to see if I can do that.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, I follow this whole sorry episode closely.
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  Speaker 2: I fight hard in the media to support the rights
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  Speaker 2: of women and girls to single sex spaces like toilets
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  Speaker 2: and changing rooms and sporting competitions. I don't regard this
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  Speaker 2: as a controversial view. I know that's what the majority
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  Speaker 2: of Australians. I know that's what you too. We've got
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  Speaker 2: no truck with discrimination against anyone, least of all trans people.
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  Speaker 2: We can't stay silent as the hard one rights of
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  Speaker 2: women become collateral damage and this new era of identity madness.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why when Moira stood up on this issue,
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  Speaker 2: she was standing.
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  Speaker 3: Up for all of us.
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  Speaker 2: The trial continues within the court of public opinion. I
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  Speaker 2: reckon wire Deemings already beaten John buzzito. All right, we'll
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  Speaker 2: go down to Canra for the headlines. Sky News reporter
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  Speaker 2: Olivia Kaisley, Good evening.
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  Speaker 7: Nuclear is Australia's only chance to reach net zero by
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  Speaker 7: twenty fifty. That's according to the opposition leader Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 7: He says that if he's elected at the next federal poll,
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  Speaker 7: he'll deliver security on borders, energy and the economy.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever renewables are overbuilt and there's insufficient base lad firming power.
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  Speaker 1: The story is the same one of skyrocketing costs of
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  Speaker 1: unreliable grids and energy rationing.
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  Speaker 7: But ninety six days after the proposed sites for the
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  Speaker 7: reactors were announced, the public is no closer to finding
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  Speaker 7: out the price tag for the policy.
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  Speaker 4: Months after he said he would come clean with how
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  Speaker 4: much it would cost, with all of the detail, we
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  Speaker 4: had none of it.
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  Speaker 7: Peter Dutton admits his plan is ambitious but necessary. He
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  Speaker 7: wants to sure up the energy grid and bring prices down.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the austrange people will get from a government
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  Speaker 1: that I lead.
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  Speaker 7: He claims. The government is failing to reduce bills by
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  Speaker 7: two hundred and seventy five dollars as promised.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they've gone up by as much as eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars in the past two years.
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  Speaker 7: The Prime Minister will unveil a new mandatory draft Food
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  Speaker 7: and Grocery Code as a consumer watchdog moves to sue
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  Speaker 7: calls on Woolworths over alleged misleading discounts.
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  Speaker 8: The A triples c alleges that the price discounts as
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  Speaker 8: promoted were misleading because the discount was illusory.
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  Speaker 4: If this is found to be true, it's completely unacceptable.
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  Speaker 4: This is not the Australian spirit. Customers don't deserve to
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  Speaker 4: be treated as fools by the supermarkets.
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  Speaker 7: Anthony Alberizi announcing new legislation to protect customers against inflated
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  Speaker 7: prices as cost of living pressures intensify. The bill would
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  Speaker 7: see the supermarkets face multi million dollar fines if they
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  Speaker 7: breach the code.
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  Speaker 2: All right from one of those headlines, I'm joined now
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  Speaker 2: by Sky News political reporter Cam Reddit and see your
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  Speaker 2: writer and columns for the Herald Sun. Patrick Carline, Well,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to you both, Cam. I'll start with news poll.
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  Speaker 2: It's another dip for labor now at one of the
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  Speaker 2: lowest levels since the election in twenty twenty two. They're
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  Speaker 2: down one point to thirty one percent, the Coalition remaining
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  Speaker 2: steady on thirty eight two pp. It's still an ecker neck.
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  Speaker 2: This is the third consecutive poll it's been fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Now at the same time, you analysis and the latest
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  Speaker 2: Resolved Political monitor shows that Labor voters are turning their
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  Speaker 2: back on Labour in droves.
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  Speaker 3: This is a.
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  Speaker 2: Trend, and I made the point of my editorial it's
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  Speaker 2: a trend absolutely, But there's a finite time now between
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  Speaker 2: now on the election. It's a matter of months. It's
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  Speaker 2: got to be held by May. So it's getting harder
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  Speaker 2: and harder to turn the ship around.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, these are not good numbers, Peter, and your viewers
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  Speaker 9: might be wondering, well, why is Labor's vote dropping, But
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  Speaker 9: it's still at fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 5: A part of that is because the.
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  Speaker 9: Vote's not just going to the Coalition, but it's going
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  Speaker 9: to the Greens as well. So when you filter all
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  Speaker 9: that through, it still comes out at fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 9: So that's why those primary numbers you've just showed a
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  Speaker 9: really important Peter, But putting that to one side as well,
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  Speaker 9: it's those same issues of cost of living that are
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  Speaker 9: hurting labor right across the board because it flows through everything.
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  Speaker 9: You've seen the focus on grocery prices today, but energy bills,
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  Speaker 9: housing as well. And I find it fascinating that after
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  Speaker 9: last week where Labor spent so much time trying to
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  Speaker 9: get its housing bills through the Senate, saying we're fighting
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  Speaker 9: the Greens, We're fighting the coalition, they're the reason we
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  Speaker 9: can't get anything done. Voters aren't really giving them any
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  Speaker 9: credit for even trying. You've seen another drop in these
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  Speaker 9: numbers today and it goes to show that perhaps people
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  Speaker 9: are just not scared of the idea of a minority
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  Speaker 9: parliament anymore. And that's a danger sign for both parties,
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  Speaker 9: but particularly Labor. Where there are more Labor Greens contests,
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  Speaker 9: the Greens vote is potent amongst renters on this issue
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  Speaker 9: of housing, which is such it just it cuts across
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  Speaker 9: all the different types of voters and demographics, ages, genders.
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  Speaker 5: The lot.
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  Speaker 9: So you're right, Peter, you look at those numbers, they're
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  Speaker 9: not good, and particularly when that vote tends to shift
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  Speaker 9: more towards the Greens for Labor, that is a real
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  Speaker 9: danger sign.
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  Speaker 2: And of course Patrick, these are all the absolute base
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  Speaker 2: of the labor voters that are filling this pain and
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  Speaker 2: something like housing. You know, let's say they go to
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  Speaker 2: a February election. You're not going to get enough rate
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  Speaker 2: cuts between now and February to make a difference. You're
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  Speaker 2: not going to be able to build a home by February.
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  Speaker 2: So there's little that people will see as tangible now
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  Speaker 2: between where we are today and where they are.
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  Speaker 3: In voting day.
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  Speaker 10: Well, that's right, and look, middle Australia is hurting. You're
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  Speaker 10: paying six hundred bucks a week for your rent, it's
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  Speaker 10: probably going to be seven hundred in twelve months time.
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  Speaker 10: You're paying off these big mortgages when almost all of
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  Speaker 10: it is interest. You're not getting ahead and people aren't
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  Speaker 10: even treading water terribly well. I think part of the
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  Speaker 10: big problem is there's no blue sky in sight, so
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  Speaker 10: like this is going to get better, as you said,
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  Speaker 10: certainly in the next six months or twelve months, and
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  Speaker 10: a lot of the ambitious sort of retoric from the
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  Speaker 10: Albanezy government doesn't actually stand up when you look at
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  Speaker 10: the stats closely. I think they need to build a
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  Speaker 10: new house once every two minutes for the next five
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  Speaker 10: years to achieve one of their targets. It's not going
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  Speaker 10: to happen, so there isn't anything sort of promising to
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  Speaker 10: make it feel any better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I always used to say in opposition, be careful what
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  Speaker 2: you promise. Voters will remember you must be able to deliver.
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  Speaker 2: So when Tony havebit used to say I will stop
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  Speaker 2: the boats, Petti Creven was behind with their fingers crossed
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  Speaker 2: like this, saying a few hal Mary's because we would
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  Speaker 2: have been very show if we couldn't have stopped the boat.
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  Speaker 2: So there's nowhere to hide. Let's go to that big
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  Speaker 2: speech today Peter Dutton fronting the Cedar Lunch Committee for
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  Speaker 2: Economic Development in Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: He spoke with Chris Yelman.
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  Speaker 2: This was interesting today, this speech because he laid out
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  Speaker 2: a very clear strategy about his economic plan. There was
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  Speaker 2: not costings there cam I'll get to that in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: But late this afternoon I picked up a breaking a
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  Speaker 2: report in the UK Financial Times. This was an event
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  Speaker 2: in New York the White House Climate Policy Advisor John Podesta.
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  Speaker 2: He has announced the world's biggest bank so pledging their
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  Speaker 2: support for nuclear power. It's a move they hope, government's
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  Speaker 2: hope industry hopes will unlock finance for a new wave
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  Speaker 2: of power plants. Now, Dutton's critics labor they want to
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  Speaker 2: say that you can't build nuclear here at scale because
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  Speaker 2: there's no one that wants to build nuclear. But that
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  Speaker 2: big news from Podesta Cam seems to look like things
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  Speaker 2: are going to change dramatically.
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  Speaker 9: This is a really big deal, Peter, because you have
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  Speaker 9: fourteen of the world's big guess financial institutions, many of
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  Speaker 9: them investment banks are the likes of Morgan Stanley's, your
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  Speaker 9: Bank of America's Goldman Sacks, those types with a lot
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  Speaker 9: of money at their at disposal, all now coming out
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  Speaker 9: in this full court press saying we're willing to put
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  Speaker 9: our money behind nuclear power as a way of bridging
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  Speaker 9: the gap between today and twenty fifty where they want
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  Speaker 9: to get to net zero. And in particular they say
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  Speaker 9: that it's crucial to underpinning wind and solar for the
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: times that it's intermittent, which we've seen in Australia wind
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: and solar have underperformed for most of winter. That's what
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: the market operator says. So when it comes to the
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: coalition's plan, this isn't an investment strategy, if you like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: but it is a signal of intent from these big lenders,
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: these big investors, and that is significant. So the coalition's
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: plan at the moment is for the tax payer foot
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: most of the bill to fund the building of these reactors.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: If these investors are serious, could that be a way
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: to bring the financial cost down for the taxpayer, make
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: the financial cost benefit if you like, of nuclear a
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: bit more attractive and therefore make it a bit more
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: palatable to those that might be still beyond the fence,
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: might have some doubts about it. The political hurdles will
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: still remain regardless of whether there is a better financial
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: backing for it. You look at things like overturning some
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: of the state moratoriums for example. There'll be work to
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: do there. But this is a big indicator to the
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: global market Peter, that these big banks, these big investors
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: are willing to back nuclear and whether that's in Australia
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: or overseas, it could be a game changer.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot harder now for Laban and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: other critics to come after it as a viable opportunity
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: for Australia. From page to telegraph today, So the Albanezer
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: government had spent on travel alone so not the salary,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: not the office of just the travel one hundred and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: forty five thousand dollars for the First Nations ambassador Justin
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Muhammad to go overseas nine times, mostly to the US
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and Europe. What's interesting here, Patrick is almost immediately Petered
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Utton said, if I am elected at the next election,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to scrap this job. We're not going to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: have an ambassador for First Nations people if we've got
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: rid of the why do we need it? And I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: think he's probably right.
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: Look, I think it was a free kick for Peter
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: Dutton today. Who's going to defend this position? We voted
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: on the Voice last year, we overwhelmed whelmingly said no,
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: this position was gotten up to promote the Voice, Truth
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: and treaty. They're all sort of dead in the water
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: as we speak at the moment, and I think most
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: people would say, well, why does this person have to
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: go overseas to promote what's meant to be promoted in
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: the regions. It's not making any difference on the ground.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: There's big issues on the ground. These are issues that
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: have been around for decades. This sort of symbolism, the
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: optics of it, it just stinks terribly and Peter Dutton
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: took advantage of that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm having a look at that list. In
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: every one of those countries, we have an ambassador, use
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: our ambassador, our High Commission on the ground. That's what
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: we pay them to do. We don't need to fly
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: this bloke around the world. Hey, what's this big news
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: today with the AH Triple C that's got Coals and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Woolies shaking in their boots.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: This is pretty extraordinary, petty. You've got this claim now
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: they've been taken to court by the a trible C
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: that essentially the two biggest supermarkets in the country were
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: taking people for a ride with discounts that were in discounts.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: They give this one example of a packet of oreos
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: at Woolies that was for about two years being marketed
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: at three dollars fifty, then it was jacked up to
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: five dollars and after three weeks it was then marketed
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: as a discount as a sale at four dollars fifty,
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: even though that was a dollar more than what it
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: was a month earlier, being discounted or marked as a
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: sale item. That's a pretty extraordinary example. And the claim
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: from the a triple C is that this was happening
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: on hundreds of other items at Woolies and at Coal's.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: So they're now taking them to court. The a trible
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: C wants to hit them with a big stick financially.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: That's far more than just the cost of doing business.
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: They want to make this one hurt. The government's looking
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: at a mandatory code of conduct that would have additional
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: penalties too. Peter, it's a pretty extraordinary claim. We know
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: the role at grocries playing cost of living. I don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: think there'll be anyone that won't want to come after
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: them with a big stick if this is proven in court.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Patrick, just quickly.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: You're an award winning journalist, right so you know all
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: the probity of the integrity required of journalism. I think
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: particularly that's required of the ABC because they have a
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: charter as our national broadcaster. What do you make of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: these revelations reported today that there were a series of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: legal letters sent to the ABC warning them that there
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: was doctored footage or the risk of doctored footage. We
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: now know it was doctored footage in relation to Heston Russell.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: There's got to be a proper independent i'd say judicial
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: review now surely.
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: Look, I agree with the Communications Minister on this. The
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: ABC's got to own it, and I think I agree
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: with you certainly there needs to be some sort of
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: oversight looking at what went wrong here. We're not talking
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: about sort of error as a judgment or spur of
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: the moment decisions. We're talking about, as you say, legal letters.
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: This is a protracted process and it sounds as though
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: if mistakes were made they were avoidable because they were
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: sort of they would flow as it was happening. Mistakes
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: could have been mitigated, if not avoided all together. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: as it is, we need to have faith restored in
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: the process. I mean, as a journalist, as you say,
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: you've got to get it right, and there's so many
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: things I've heard over the years that you think that's
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: probably right, but you can't guarantee that it's accurate and
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: you can't run it. Those processes critical to journalism and
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: the sense that what you're presenting to the world is
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: accurate as best as you can get it. So yes,
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: some sort of inquiry is warranted.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything more serious than Australia's national
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: broadcaster going after someone who wears Australia's uniform.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: That's where it is for me, and I think there
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: has to be an independent review. A gentlemen, thank you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Returning now to further evidence of sliding support for Anthony
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Albertezy and Labour contained in this new news poll today.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: For his take, let's bring in the director at Redbridge
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Group Australia, Cos Samaris cost. Thank you for your time.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: This was I guess confirming the life. Last time we spoke,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you were saying they're really on a terrible trajectory. Now
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: it's sort of like the planes and a nose dive
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and there's that battle of political will to try to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: avert the crash. This is the lowest level of support
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: for Labor since the twenty two election. It's also the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: equal largest primary vote lead for the coalition since the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: last election. Where do you think the government's losing most
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of its support?
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Oh, I have absolutely in the outer suburbs regions of
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: this country. It's where the economic crisis is hitting the hardest.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: It's where we see people relying on food banks. It's
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: where we see people who have eaten into their savings
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: and now occurring credit card debt just to survive. It
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: comes up in our research all the time. And this
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: is where, unsurprisingly, with the Labor parties actually losing altitude
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: very fast.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: And because of these in sort of dead red labor
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: seats where it might go from say a twenty five
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: percent seat to a fifteen percent seat, but it will
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: still stay in Labour's column. Or are these the seats
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: that actually make a break government?
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Actually a bit of both.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: So there will be seats that make or break a government.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: So seats like Aston in Melbourne, Dunkey in Melbourne, regional
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: electorates like Robertson, Gilmore in New South Wales, Patterson in
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: New South Wales, Hunter Bullwinkled the new seat in Western
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: Australia which has got a bit of peri urban sort
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: of regional part of that state, Indian which is on
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: the outskirts of Perth. These electorates, that's they're the ones
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: we're seeing in our researcher moving away from from labor significantly.
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: And then of course there are seats which you know
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: they hold that are safe, which you know would you
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: would describe as part of their red wall, that are
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: also on the decline. Now these electorates, although you could
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: call them safe, particularly Melbourne's out of western suburbs, probably
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: the ones in life for the biggest swings against them.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: We're talking about a group of people.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: Are communities out there that got hit really hard in
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: the lockdowns, so economically their economic situation was almost destroyed.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Then an affordability.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: Closis comes along and hits them again. And it's here
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: where I think we could see some pretty big swings
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: beyond the nationwide swings against labor.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So when governments get into trouble or political parties get
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: into trouble, when you and I observe them closely, you
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: can see them trying to do things differently. As I said,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you know, to lift the nose of the plane to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: turn things around. I'm watching the Prime minister, I'm watching
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the front bench, and I'm not seeing that sense of urgency.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing them trying to do things differently.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: You know labor better than me. I mean, what's your observation.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm struggling to work out what the strategy is.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: Look back in the Blacks.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Bush buyers over a decade now, some of the advices
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: that councils would give politicians is that you must be
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: there when people are experiencing severe trauma, and you must
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: be with them, and you must live with no impression
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: but that you're going to be there with them.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: The problem for this government.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: Is over the last two years, the people that we've
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: been talking about feel like no one's with them. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: even if the Albanizia government suddenly gets its comms sorted out,
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: it starts announcing some great policies, these communities will basically
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: reject anything they say because basically they've been absent and
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: not there with them during what they would they themselves
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: would describe to.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Us as some of the worst times of their lives.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I've made the part of the top of the show.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: You know, you only get three years in a federal term.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: They squandered a year with the Voice, so Labor got in.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: They thought, you know, the Liberals were out now for
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: a good decide, and they settled in very comfortably and slowly.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'd have to say, compare that with Chris Min's and
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Peter Malanowskis. I mean, they're both first term premiers. They
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: have hit the ground running. I reckon if either of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: them went to election tomorrow, that increased their margins. So
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: what are they doing right that federal labor is not doing.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I think you just summed it up. Basically.
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: You could argue that in the most critical part of
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: that three year term, they.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Spent a lot of political capital on the referendum.
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: By by the time they turned to the economy, it
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: was almost too late for a lot of austraids.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: By that time, many of them, we're heading towards the
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: sort of financial hardship that now we are looking at.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: You contrast that with the state labor governments that you
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: just mentioned, and yes, as soon as they got elected.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: They hit the ground running.
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: And when you speak to these teams you get a
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: sense of urgency about them too. It's not just about
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: you know, this is what we've got to do to
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: win an election. It's just that if I can't fix
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: this housing problem, it's not just we as political party
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: of me in trouble.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: People are going to be homeless.
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: And so that urgency comes across to the electric as
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: being empathetic even if you can't fix it. If you're
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: trying to fix it, they're going to give you a
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: tick for it that doesn't exist in camera at the moment.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: What has for the last two years.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Not wrong costs, Thank you for analysis. Catch up again
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: right after break the worrying but not surprising revelation, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: thousands of palatiny and visa holders were only referred to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: security checks after they got to Australia. Last Labor's broken
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: promise on migration, did they have any intention of keeping it?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And the hard left strategy of defunding roads to stop
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you driving. It's all about saving the planet. It's happened
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: right down Victoria. But I'll show you a video out
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of Canada. It exposes this global plan by the green left.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Welcome back still to calm the campaign to give consumers
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the choice to have gas appliance in their homes, The
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Progas campaign has taking up the fight against Victorian labor,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but first heavily redacted documents have been tabled in the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Senate that show thousands of Palestinian visa holders were referred
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to ASIO for security checks only after they were granted
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: special temporary visitor visas.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: This again goes to show.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Just how little certainty we can have when it comes
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: to this cohort of visa recipients, considering there were no
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: rigorous face to face tests or interviews, no biometric testing
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: prior to the granting of visas, not to mention the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: fact that some may have already been in Australia before
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: they were referred to ASO joining me in our shadow
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Immigration Minister Dan Tien, Well, thank you for your time.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Dan.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Since March asios say they've assessed all onshore and offshore
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: visa holders, but prior to that period that's not the case.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So we're talking about six months of serious exposure. And
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that was always the opposition to concern, wasn't it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: Absolutely it was always our concern, you're meant to do
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: the proper security vetting before people arrive in the country.
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: And what's clear and that we've got it in the
• 31:18
  Speaker 11: data that's been released, is not only had the Palestinians
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: arrived without that occurring, but also some of them had
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: already claimed asylum. So even if there had been security
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: red flags, how the government was going to deal with
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: those people who were already here, who had already claimed
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: asylum if there were security red flags, heaven only knows.
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: Once again, it shows that this was rushed, and we
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: know it was rushed because ed Husick said it was rushed.
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: The proper security checks weren't put in place, and it's
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: just pure luck. It would seem that we haven't seen
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: anyone delivery in a red security flag from ASIO and
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: we are very very fortunate that that hasn't been the case.
• 32:08
  Speaker 11: But it just goes to show one fundamental thing labor
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: can't be trusted on national security.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: DAN.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: The documents show that at least seven have their visa
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: applications refused on shore. So what happens in this case,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: because we've had Tony Burk say before we can't send
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: these people back to a war zone. So where are
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: these seven now?
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: Well, it's a very good question and one that needs
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: that we need Tony Burke to answer, and it's something
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: that we will be following up on because, as you know, Peter,
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: when we asked all these questions in the Parliament, Anthony
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: Alberanzi refuse to answer them and refuse to provide the
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: Australian people with detail. Now we've got these briefs, we
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: will now put the questions again to the Prime Minister
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: because they you know, the Australian people need to know
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: the answers to these questions and if the Prime Minister
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: won't answer them, then they have every right to know.
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: That fundamental premise is correct. Labor can't be trusted when
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: it comes to our national security.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: DAN.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: This is like death by a thousand cuts, though, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: mean you have to sort of bludgeon them in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Parliament to get a couple of answers up. Even then,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you know often things change. You go to estimates. That's
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: when we found out originally that they weren't being checked,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that some of these visas were allocated in about an hour.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Then we get this dump of redacted documents. We find
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that there are people getting to Australia without a security check.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Then we find that's seven at least seven get refused
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: by ASIO. Well, where the hell are they are they
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: locked up and they've been to a third country.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: We can't send them back to Gaza.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And we know about seventy percent of the cohort in Australia,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: about thirteen hundred or so, they've already applied to stay
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: here forever. They've got rights to medicare, rights to a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: whole lot of our eligibility. I also know they on
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: this particular tourist visa Class danteen get access to health,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: the medical care that no other tourist who comes to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Australia gets now, where are the answers from labor? About
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: is where's the popular where's the press conference from the
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: prime minister or the minister?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Just being very frank and open with.
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: Us, Well, I don't think we'll get it. But one
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: thing you can be assured of, Peter, that we will
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: keep using the questions. You know when it came to
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: Andrew Giles and Claire O'Neill that we just made sure
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: that we ask the right questions, continue to ask the
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: right questions, and we didn't. When we didn't get the answers,
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: we made sure we continued to expose them. Well, we're
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: going to keep doing that with the Prime Minister. Because
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: the Prime Minister was asked a series of questions in
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: the Parliament around this. He didn't like it, and we
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: now know why he didn't like it. We've obviously seen
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: Andrew Giles and Claire O'Neill replaced by Tony Burke. So
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: we'll also put the questions to him and we will
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: pursue them and we will continue to pursue them because
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: there's one job that the government has above all else,
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: and that is to keep the Australian people safe. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: if we don't think they're doing that, then we will
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: go after them and we will make sure that we
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: keep the attention and the focus on this because if
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: they have put national security at risk, the Australian people
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: deserve to know about it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: But Governman said it was going to cut the immigration
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: numbers down ten we already know they're at ninety eight
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: percent of their target for this financial year, still another
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: quarter to go. They've also let the population hit twenty
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: seven million last week. That's the abs official statistics. Are
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: they lying to us about cutting the population?
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: I think they are. They said that they were going
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: to meet their commitments and it's absolutely clear that they're
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: not going to. And the important point to remember here
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: is that that is adding to the pressures on Australian
• 36:27
  Speaker 11: families and on small business in this country. Because the
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: Reserve Bank has said the government cannot get immigration under control,
• 36:36
  Speaker 11: it's going to continue to put upwood pressure on inflation,
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: on housing, on rents, on the cost of living, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: that will keep interest rates higher for longer. So Jim
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: Charmers has now admitted that they won't reach their target. Now,
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: just remember how high this is the government is on
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  Speaker 11: track to bring in well over a million people in
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: two year. We have never seen numbers like this before.
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: Clara O'Neill said that she had it under control and
• 37:07
  Speaker 11: that she was going to make sure they reached their targets.
• 37:10
  Speaker 11: We've now got Jim Chalmers saying they're not going to
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  Speaker 11: do it. It's another complete and utter mess. And the
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: sad thing about this is it's Australian families and businesses
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: that are paying the price.
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  Speaker 3: Not wrong Dantean, thank you all?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Right after break the campaign to give Victorians the chance
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  Speaker 2: to keep.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Gas in their homes. Labor wants it to go. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: think there's a bit of a fight back happen.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Plus a bit later on the deliberate strategy the Green
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Left to underfund roads as part of a climate push.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: That's why your potholes aren't being fix It's why your
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: speed limits are coming down. It's not about safety. That's
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: just a ruse welcome back.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Still the come the underhanded way the Left is neglecting
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: our roads as part of a climate push. I've got
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: evidence out of Canada that shows it's.
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  Speaker 3: An international scam.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: But today a new campaign was launched called Your Home,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Your Choice, that aims to rest back control over what
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: sort of appliances we have in our own homes because
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: down here in Victoria, the Allen government's trying to get
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: us away from gas. The campaign's being led by the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Master Plumbers Association and it will target up to fifty
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: thousand voters a week calling out the misinformation being peddled
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  Speaker 2: by the Labor Government. Joined me now to discuss their campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Master Plumbers CEO Peter Daily. Peter, welcome to the program.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on your campaign. I've got a gas heater or
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a gas stove. I love my gas in the kitchen.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Your campaign will ask six questions you'd like answered before
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: people switch to electric.
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  Speaker 3: Take us through what this is.
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  Speaker 10: So the campaign's really all about making sure consumers are
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: informed about the true cost of switching from gas to electric.
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: So we we have our plumbers out there having thousands
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: of conversations a day with consumers and businesses around switching,
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  Speaker 10: and the questions.
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  Speaker 12: Are really around the cost. So, for example, quality appliances
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: cost more than appliances with lesser warranties or lesser heating capacity,
• 39:16
  Speaker 12: for instance, So what's the cost of the appliance? Is
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: the true cost of the appliances? What are the cost
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: of building modifications? Or electrical upgrades that need to be
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: put in place to support the electric appliances in place
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: of gas. So there are all questions like that that
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: really inform consumers about the true cost of switching, not
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: just what the government wants you to hear.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know about seventy percent of Australia's power
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: still coming from coal, So there'd be higher emissions if
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I turned off a gas heater and put on electric heater,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't they because my gas emissions would be lower than
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: my coal emissions.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Well, as we move on this path to renewable energy,
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: a lot of help transmission and generation is of course
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: brown coal. So at the moment switching off gas on
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: to coal really doesn't make sense.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: And what sort of cost are we talking about? Because
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: someone said to me that the cost of converting over
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: to electric for an average household is about twenty seven
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: That's a lot, is that right?
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: Yes, look, it certainly can be. It depends on a
• 40:23
  Speaker 12: whole range of things, the type of appliances you put in,
• 40:26
  Speaker 12: how much work needs to be done to modify the
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: ham to put in the new appliances, whether you need
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: upgrades that you switchboard, whether you need new power to
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: your house and go to three phase because a lot
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: of these things draw a lot of power, so the
• 40:38
  Speaker 12: cost varies. And the key message that we've got to
• 40:41
  Speaker 12: consumer is is you really need to speak to your
• 40:43
  Speaker 12: plumber about the true cost of switching and not just
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: rely on the estimates. And they're only estimates that government's
• 40:50
  Speaker 12: given you, so it can be anywhere from eleven thousand
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: to twenty seven thousand or even more. And importantly, the
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: time it takes isn't necessarily straightforward either, because if you're
• 41:02
  Speaker 12: getting building modifications, if you need a new switchboard, if
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: you need to change the power do your hame, that
• 41:07
  Speaker 12: can take weeks or months, not just days.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: A lot of people say, to be a petter, they're
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: confused about what the position is because the government had
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: these bans on new builds for everything gas related in
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the home. Then they reverse their position in relation to
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: cooktops but not heaters. It's unclear whether that's if you've
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: already got a gas heater and it needs replacement. Okay,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: so it's not a new build, but can it be replaced?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Down the track is that in or outside the rules?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Can you give us some clarity.
• 41:37
  Speaker 12: Well, look, it's really confusing. The clarity I can give
• 41:40
  Speaker 12: you is the government did come out on Monday and
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: say that gas cooktops would be spared, but then Wednesday
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: night and Thursday the introduced legislation that bans all gas appliances.
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: There's no cutout there for cooktops, There's no cutout there
• 41:53
  Speaker 12: for renewable gases into the future such as biomethane or hydrogen.
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: It's a blanket power to ban gas supply is in
• 42:00
  Speaker 12: all homes, including existing homes, which is not what the
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: government's been saying.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Daily, thank you for that, thank you for the information,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and good luck with the campaign.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: How angry does this make me?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: This stuff should be where the liberals in Victoria are fighting,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: get out of the court, stop fighting amongst yourselves. Goodness
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: me any reason. Labour's basically run Victoria for thirty years.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for libels. Get over yourselves, all right,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: half the break the damning figures that show our roads
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: are being neglected by the green left as part of
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a global emission strategy, plus the glaring emissions in Queensland
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Labour's campaign material, and this tells me Stephen.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Miles is on a hidington nothing welcome back.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Let's bring him my panel, it's your favorite on the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Monday nights Sky Newese contributor forward former Howard government minister
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Gary Hargraves and the LMP's Keith Pitt from Bunderberg.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Let's start in Victoria.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: The Allen government under fire down here for slashing the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: funding for road repairs. This is pothole city on ar
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It's bad everywhere else, got Tia, It's really bad in Victoria.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: There's been a deterioration of the road network across the state.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Resurfacing works for the next twelve months are dropping by
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: over sixty five percent on regional roads, twenty five percent
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: on metro roads. Now, this is part of a deliberate strategy.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I would argue from the left to underfund roads as
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: part of their climate push. How look at this exchange
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: out of Canada, where a senior Environment Deparmental official was
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: asked if road construction would be banned under an emergency decree.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: Here's the government considering prohibiting road construction through this emergency order.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: We'll deferred to it. Referred to my colleagues.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: The issue of roads and their closure of roads would
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: be one thing that would be under consideration in the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: context of the development of an order.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: The order has not been developed, is being considered, could be.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: One of the things considered. Yeah, I'll fix it, so Keith.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: That was the deepartmental official the minister there though he
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: was at the table. They've got to ban road fix work,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: road fixed work, road works in Canada, the banning petrol
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: vehicles are increasing fuel costs with a carbon tax. That
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: minister doesn't want people to personally own a car. And
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: now obviously this road construction ban, it's all about climate change.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: And this is what's happening in Victoria as well.
• 44:38
  Speaker 13: Peter, this is just appalling. And let's look at the
• 44:41
  Speaker 13: summary here. We can't have cheap coal and gas in
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: Australia because of net zero. You can't have affordable, reliable
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: electricity because of net zero. And now you've got to
• 44:50
  Speaker 13: suggest that we're not going to have road repairs, pothole
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: repairs and good quality roads for regional people to drive
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: on because of net zero. And guess what when you
• 45:00
  Speaker 13: hit these things, and this is in all weather conditions, daytime, nighttime, rain,
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: it could be pretty poor. Not only can you damage
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: your car, not only can you blow a tire You're
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: can end up in the trees and this will mean
• 45:10
  Speaker 13: people will be injured or killed. It is a disgraceful
• 45:13
  Speaker 13: thing to even suggest. And every regional person in this
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: country and everywhere else should oppose this and oppose it loudly.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: And this is why they're bringing down all these speed limits.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: As you know, I mean streets near me and Melbourne.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: We're now driving at thirty kilometers an hour. They're worse sixty,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: then fifty and forty now thirty. That's all about climate change.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Let's go to New South Wales if we can. Gary,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: they're looking at new rules that will make it harder
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: for landowners to impose onshore wind farms. This is because
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen's got them under pressure to accelerate renewables.
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: Look, Peter, I got to tell you that if you
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: speak to people on the land in and around Dubbo,
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: and I did that a year or two a go,
• 46:00
  Speaker 15: they would tell you that if you want to get
• 46:02
  Speaker 15: an approval to put up a wind turbine three hundred
• 46:04
  Speaker 15: foot in the air, no problem, piece of cake. It
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: was a green path. If you wanted to do something
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: like develop a block for certain things. It was eight
• 46:14
  Speaker 15: years of waiting. We are being waterboarded into this green agenda,
• 46:19
  Speaker 15: and of course it's heavily subsidized. It relies on taxpayer
• 46:22
  Speaker 15: subsidies anybody who uses electricity, which is all of us,
• 46:25
  Speaker 15: and Peter Darn't today outlined very clearly that unless we
• 46:29
  Speaker 15: get electricity into our economy that's cheap base load, plenty
• 46:32
  Speaker 15: of it and cheap. Did I mention cheap? I shouldn't
• 46:35
  Speaker 15: mention cheap? Then as an economy we are just going
• 46:37
  Speaker 15: to go backwards at a rate of nots and Peter,
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: this is the problem. These people are killing Australia's economy,
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: They're killing Australia's certainty, They're killing Australia's future. We've got
• 46:47
  Speaker 15: to turn our back on this green nonsense. We just
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: have to kill it off, get rid of it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Key. Three big mining companies.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Coal companies here, in fact, are pushing back against the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: government's industrial relations laws.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Their launch.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: You can appeal to overturn a fair Work commissioned decision
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: on mandatory joint bargaining. White Haven Peabody, a glen Core subsidiary.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: This is huge, isn't it?
• 47:14
  Speaker 13: Absolutely? And good on Paul Flynn and the rest of
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: them for having a crack here because what labor has
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: put through pattern bargaining is actually bad for the people
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: who work in the industry. You imagine being forced into
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: an agreement that has come through let's say in Mormbar
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: or Tieri or somewhere else, which is designed to suit
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: those circumstances, those shifts, those rosters, that town, those locations,
• 47:35
  Speaker 13: and it's forced on somewhere in Singleton. This is the
• 47:38
  Speaker 13: ridiculous part. So even if you could strike an agreement
• 47:41
  Speaker 13: with your workforce that's better for them, pattern bargain and
• 47:44
  Speaker 13: means you can't do it. It's a really dangerous time
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: for our economy. The resources sector is what's keeping us
• 47:50
  Speaker 13: in the black instead of in the red. And what
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: have we got a labor government that wants to make
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: it harder and kill productivity.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Did you know it's tough when you can't even put
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: your leader on the banners, you can't even put your
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: logo on your core flutes. But that's what we're seeing
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: in Queensland. Have a lot of the campaign material for
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Labor Ali King Kim Richards no reference at all to
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Premier Miles, no Labor Party branding.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: It's now the party at the pink.
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: It's a shocker, Gary, Yeah, I think that's red faced
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: embarrassment that's been washed by the Queensland Sun, is what
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: that pink is. But you know there's people like Rebecca
• 48:30
  Speaker 14: Young in Redlands. There's people like Taylor Hull in TWOI.
• 48:34
  Speaker 14: You know, there are some young women who are running
• 48:36
  Speaker 14: around doing good things, trying to do good things by
• 48:38
  Speaker 14: their community, and Labor knows the only way they can
• 48:41
  Speaker 14: get a voters to trick that they're actually Labor candidate.
• 48:45
  Speaker 14: So a lot of confidence in the brand, Peter. But look,
• 48:47
  Speaker 14: you know they are a washed out movement in Queensland.
• 48:51
  Speaker 15: And I guess that makes sense that the logo someone
• 48:54
  Speaker 15: washed down an air brush out of existence. We got
• 48:57
  Speaker 15: rid of miles about fifty years ago. We've been on
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: kilometers in Queensland. Ever seen Sagus miles in twenty twenty
• 49:04
  Speaker 15: four or not. It's for the high jump too, I.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, I don't mind a stubby of VB occasionally.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: You're going to make it cheaper for me, are you, Keith?
• 49:17
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm not sure about that, Peter, because it's tied
• 49:21
  Speaker 13: to CPI, and the CPI is tied to inflation. And
• 49:23
  Speaker 13: guess what. Labour's lost control of inflation. That's why everything
• 49:27
  Speaker 13: is going up. The best thing Jim Jarmers can do
• 49:30
  Speaker 13: is actually start fighting inflation and forget the rest, because
• 49:32
  Speaker 13: that is what it's killing, not only the economy but
• 49:35
  Speaker 13: affordabuilding people's cost of living. And yeah, sure I'd like
• 49:38
  Speaker 13: beer and everything else to be cheaper, but right across
• 49:41
  Speaker 13: the board, inflation is what is driving up prices and
• 49:44
  Speaker 13: that's what's going to be addressed as a priority.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not wrong.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you gents. Good to see you both. Catch up
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: again next week. All right, A little shout out to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: my niece. She's in grade six. Her name is Grace.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: She's dressing me tonight. She's gonna dress me all week.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: She's staying at her nannies. She's giving me tips.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: So watch out. Thank you for you coming. We see
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Here's Angel Bolt