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3 people TAKEN by forest creature Missing 411 (Part 6) · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: Every year, hundreds of people go missing inside of national
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  Speaker 1: parks and forests all over North America. Of those hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of missing people, there's always a few that are particularly
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  Speaker 1: strange that there isn't a rational explanation for how they
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  Speaker 1: went missing or where they were discovered. One man named
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  Speaker 1: David Politis, who's a former police detective, made it his
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  Speaker 1: mission to start investigating these strange disappearances, and after spending
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  Speaker 1: thousands of hours researching them, he saw that there were
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  Speaker 1: clusters of areas all over North America where lots of
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  Speaker 1: people were going missing under these strange circumstances, and no
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  Speaker 1: one was any bit closer to figuring out what happened
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  Speaker 1: to these people or why. David Polidis began compiling what
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  Speaker 1: he was finding about all these strange cases and putting
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  Speaker 1: them into a book series that he calls Missing.
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  Speaker 2: Four one one. I went out and purchased all of them.
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  Speaker 1: There's like nine books because I'm totally fascinated by the
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  Speaker 1: Missing four one one phenomenon, and I want to continue
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  Speaker 1: to read through all of the research that he's done
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  Speaker 1: and find some very interesting cases that I can share
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  Speaker 1: with you all on my YouTube channel. Today, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to focus on three stories that all come out of Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: and in each story, it's as if someone or something
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  Speaker 1: literally picked these people up and moved them great distances
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  Speaker 1: to places that they would not have been able to
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  Speaker 1: access on their own. But before we get into today's
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  Speaker 1: missing four one one stories, if you're a fan of
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  Speaker 1: missing four one one or just everything strange, dark and mysterious,
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  Speaker 1: then you've come to the right channel because that's all
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  Speaker 1: I post about, and I upload three, four, even five
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  Speaker 1: times every week. So if that's of interest to you,
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  Speaker 1: of Steve Buscemi. Also, please subscribe to my channel and
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  Speaker 1: weekly uploads. All right, let's get into today's stories. In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, Maurice doc Demetz was an eighty four
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  Speaker 1: year old man living in Colorado. He was a lifelong minister,
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  Speaker 1: had a PhD in theology. He also had a blood
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  Speaker 1: condition and he had arthritis in his knees that made
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  Speaker 1: it almost impossible for him to walk without assistance. He
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  Speaker 1: had always been really passionate about Topaz hunting. He would
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  Speaker 1: go to these sites where you could dig into the
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  Speaker 1: ground and look for these rocks. When you broke them open,
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  Speaker 1: you could potentially find topaz, and he loved doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Because of his knees and because of his blood condition,
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  Speaker 1: he needed someone to go with him, to walk him
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  Speaker 1: around to the different dig sites and to help him
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  Speaker 1: get back into the car and drive him back to
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  Speaker 1: his house.
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  Speaker 2: Doc had a friend named David McSherry.
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  Speaker 1: He wound up being the primary guy that would go
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  Speaker 1: with Doc anytime he went topaz hunting. On April twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, Doc decides he wants to go topaz hunting,
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  Speaker 1: so he calls up David and they load up David's
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  Speaker 1: car and they head off to Pike National Forest, which
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  Speaker 1: was a spot they had gone many times before, and
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  Speaker 1: they had this one air that they used to love
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  Speaker 1: going in particular called Devil's Head. Locals in the area
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  Speaker 1: claimed that that spot was actually haunted by evil spirits,
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  Speaker 1: but to Doc and to David, there was no indication
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  Speaker 1: that they bought into any of that, and they went
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  Speaker 1: there all the time. When they got there on April
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, at ten am, they got out they went
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  Speaker 1: to their favorite dig sites. David actually walked Doc down
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  Speaker 1: this hill to this one little clearing. Doc had a
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  Speaker 1: backpack with him full of the tools he used to
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  Speaker 1: dig out the different rocks. After David had walked Doc
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  Speaker 1: to this spot, David walked back up the hill towards
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  Speaker 1: their car and went about fifty yards away from where
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  Speaker 1: Doc was to his dig site. And over the next
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  Speaker 1: several hours, the two would work independent of one another,
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  Speaker 1: just digging for topaz. Periodically David would look over and
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  Speaker 1: you'd make sure that he could see Doc and make
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  Speaker 1: sure the Doc was okay. At three forty five in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon, David decides, all right, it's probably time to
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  Speaker 1: get going soon, and he pokes his head up and
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  Speaker 1: he looks in the direction of where Doc was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be, and Doc's not there. He had just seen
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  Speaker 1: him about fifteen minutes earlier, so he's not concerned. He
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  Speaker 1: knows it's only been a few minutes. And frankly, Doc
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  Speaker 1: can't really go anywhere, he can barely walk, and so
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  Speaker 1: he just kind of stands up and maybe tries to
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  Speaker 1: get a better look. And he's thinking, okay, maybe Doc
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  Speaker 1: stood up and got behind a tree, to relieve himself,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe he kind of is just out of sight,
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  Speaker 1: and he starts walking down to the area to just
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  Speaker 1: go find Doc. But Doc isn't there, and neither is
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  Speaker 1: his backpack with all of his tools, and David's sitting
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  Speaker 1: there thinking, huh, I guess Doc must have packed up
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  Speaker 1: and headed back to the car. But then David's thinking
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  Speaker 1: to himself, in order to go from this dig site
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  Speaker 1: up to the car, it means walking up a fairly
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  Speaker 1: steep embankment, and there's no way that Doc would have
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  Speaker 1: been able to do that without assistance. So he's looking
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  Speaker 1: around the area thinking, is there any sign of something
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  Speaker 1: bad happening here? There's no blood, there's no sign of
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  Speaker 1: any sort of altercation that would have happened here. David
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  Speaker 1: certainly didn't hear anything going on near him. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear an animal attack or anything like that, so he thinks, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: somehow he must have got up to the car.
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  Speaker 2: David walks up the embankment all the way to the car.
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  Speaker 2: Doc's not up there.
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  Speaker 1: David goes in the car and he starts honking the
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  Speaker 1: horn and yelling out for Doc. No response. As he's
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  Speaker 1: honking the horn. Three motorists come down the road. They
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  Speaker 1: see David honking the horn, and so they say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. David tells them, Hey, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got my eighty four year old friend. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where he went. He can't have gone far. Can you
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  Speaker 1: guys help me look for him. But after David and
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  Speaker 1: these motorists spend a couple of hours looking in this
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  Speaker 1: area and there's no sign of him, they end up
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  Speaker 1: calling the authorities. The police show up, and over the
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  Speaker 1: next week there is this extensive search in this whole
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  Speaker 1: area that includes bloodhounds and hundreds of people. But despite
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  Speaker 1: this massive effort, nothing is ever found of Doc.
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  Speaker 2: He just vanishes.
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  Speaker 1: And so Doc's wife writes a letter to the governor
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  Speaker 1: of Colorado and just says he can't have done this
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  Speaker 1: on his own. He can't have walked away on his own.
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  Speaker 1: Someone or something lifted him up.
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  Speaker 2: And took him away.
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  Speaker 1: There was no response to this letter, and ultimately Doc's
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  Speaker 1: case was shut down.
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  Speaker 2: They stopped looking for him and assumed he had died.
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  Speaker 1: But when David Poliitis looked into this case and featured
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  Speaker 1: the Doc de Metz case on his documentary, they actually
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  Speaker 1: reopened the case. But as of right now, there's no
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  Speaker 1: new additional details about the whereabouts of Doc de Mets.
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  Speaker 1: To this day, we don't know what happened to him.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, Jim mcgrogan was a thirty nine year
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  Speaker 1: old medical doctor who was living in Indiana with his
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  Speaker 1: wife and his two kids. He was widely regarded as
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  Speaker 1: a very loving husband and devoted father, and everybody seemed
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  Speaker 1: to just love this guy. Jim was in phenomenal shape.
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  Speaker 1: He had run marathons, triathlons. He loved being in the outdoors, hiking,
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  Speaker 1: rock climbing, snowshoeing, skiing.
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  Speaker 2: That was Jim's happy place.
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  Speaker 1: And so in early March twenty fourteen, Jim decides he
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  Speaker 1: wants to plan a trip with some friends to go
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  Speaker 1: hiking in Colorado, and so he begins planning out where
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  Speaker 1: they're going to go hiking, and he finds this amazing
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  Speaker 1: trail right opposite the very famous Veil Ski resort. Even
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  Speaker 1: though Jim was very competent in the outdoors, he would
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  Speaker 1: take a survival class and an avalanche preparedness class before
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  Speaker 1: he left for Colorado, just to show his wife that
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't taking any chances that he would be well
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  Speaker 1: prepared in case the worst were to happen on this trip.
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  Speaker 1: About two weeks later, he's in Colorado and he heads
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  Speaker 1: to a ski shop where he rents a split snowboard,
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  Speaker 1: as well as loads up on all the supplies that
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  Speaker 1: you might need for being in the outdoors. Early the
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  Speaker 1: next day, Jim and his friends arrive at the trailhead. Jim,
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  Speaker 1: in his backpack, had his cell phone. He also had
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  Speaker 1: an extra cell phone battery. He had a great GPS.
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  Speaker 1: In addition, he had loads of food and water. He
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  Speaker 1: had his split snowboard, he has his avalanche beacon, He's
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  Speaker 1: got extra clothing. I mean, this guy is well outfitted
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  Speaker 1: for this trip. So they start on this hike and
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  Speaker 1: by ten am that morning, the rest of the group
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  Speaker 1: is feeling tired and wants to take a break. Jim
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to take a break. He's an amazing shape
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  Speaker 1: and he wants to keep going. So he says, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk just a little bit farther up
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  Speaker 1: and I'll meet you at our next plan stop. No
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  Speaker 1: one bats an eye because Jim is like this total stud.
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  Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing, and they're like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, we'll see you up there. Once the group
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  Speaker 1: is well rested, they stand back up and they keep walking.
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  Speaker 1: They get to that first stop and Jim's not there.
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  Speaker 1: They think, okay, you know, we were sitting there for
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  Speaker 1: a little while. I'm sure he just went to the
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  Speaker 1: next planned stop, because they had plan stops all along the.
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  Speaker 2: Route the trail they were on.
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  Speaker 1: Because it had snowed significantly that winter and lots of
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  Speaker 1: people had been on this trail, the trail itself was
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  Speaker 1: totally packed down to the dirt, so it's very easy
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  Speaker 1: to identify this trail. Anywhere there wasn't trail was covered
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  Speaker 1: in snow, and so if you were walking this trail,
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  Speaker 1: it would be really easy to stay on it. Also,
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  Speaker 1: if you were to deviate from the trail and start
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  Speaker 1: walking away, it would be really obvious because people would
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  Speaker 1: see your footprints leaving the trail. But as Jim's friends
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  Speaker 1: are making their way up this trail and not seeing
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  Speaker 1: Jim at each of these subsequent stops, they don't see
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  Speaker 1: any footprints leaving the trail, so they just figure he
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  Speaker 1: must have gone all the way to the end.
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  Speaker 2: He's just way ahead of us.
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  Speaker 1: But by five pm, when they made it all the
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  Speaker 1: way up to the top where they planned on stopping
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  Speaker 1: and turning around. Jim wasn't there, and they hadn't passed
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  Speaker 1: him on the way up, and they hadn't seen any
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  Speaker 1: footprints or any ski tracks or anything to indicate that
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  Speaker 1: someone had left the path, and so very worried about Jim,
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  Speaker 1: they called the authorities. Over the next five days, a
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  Speaker 1: massive search is launched in this area, including three helicopters
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  Speaker 1: that scoured an eighteen mile square radius.
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  Speaker 2: They had sent snipping dogs out there.
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  Speaker 1: They had all these very experienced mountaineers combing the area,
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  Speaker 1: but they couldn't find any sign of him. And again
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  Speaker 1: because of all the snow outside of that trail they
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  Speaker 1: were on. The helicopter just searched up and down that
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  Speaker 1: trail looking for indications that someone had left the trail,
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  Speaker 1: looking for those footprints or ski tracks just off that
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  Speaker 1: trail they were on, and there weren't any. There was
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  Speaker 1: no sign that anyone had left the trail at any
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  Speaker 1: point yet Jim was gone.
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  Speaker 2: The authorities, friends, family, ever, he's baffled.
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  Speaker 1: But they're thinking to themselves, you know, Jim's are really
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  Speaker 1: competent outdoorsman. He has a working GPS and they checked
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  Speaker 1: their cell phones. That whole area they were in they
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  Speaker 1: had cell phone reception, so they're thinking to themselves, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Sure he's going to turn up at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty days after Jim went missing, his body is discovered
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  Speaker 1: by two hikers seven kilometers away from the trail he
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  Speaker 1: had been on when he went missing. He had died
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  Speaker 1: from significant head trauma as well as a broken femur.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like he had fallen from a really great height,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't entirely clear where he had actually fallen from.
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  Speaker 1: He was found with just leggings and a shirt on,
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  Speaker 1: no jacket, and no boots, and his boots were nowhere
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  Speaker 1: to be found. His backpack was next to him, and
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  Speaker 1: inside of it was his GPS that worked and his
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  Speaker 1: cell phone that worked. He even had an extra battery
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  Speaker 1: for a cell phone, yet at no point had he
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  Speaker 1: tried to use his cell phone over the duration of
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  Speaker 1: the time he had been out there. He also had
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  Speaker 1: lots of food and water and additional clothing. He had
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  Speaker 1: ten but it looked like none of it had been
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  Speaker 1: touched since he packed it originally, and then strangest of
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  Speaker 1: all is there were no footprints or ski tracks leading
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  Speaker 1: up to either where he was or any of the
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  Speaker 1: surrounding areas. There were no tracks to show how he
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  Speaker 1: actually got where he got. It's as if he had
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  Speaker 1: been lifted off the trail seven kilometers away and dropped
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  Speaker 1: where he was. When the exact location of where he
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  Speaker 1: was found was communicated back to the authorities, the helicopter
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  Speaker 1: pilots who had been involved in that initial five day
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  Speaker 1: search said that we looked at that area multiple times
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  Speaker 1: and he wasn't there. So at some point after those
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  Speaker 1: five days, Jim had found a way to land seven
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  Speaker 1: kilometers away in this random place where there's no footprints
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  Speaker 1: that lead to it, no tracks, no anything. We know
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  Speaker 1: he had a working cell phone and a working GPS,
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  Speaker 1: and we know that he didn't make it to this
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  Speaker 1: spot where he ultimately was found in the first five days.
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  Speaker 1: So at a minimum, what was he doing in those
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  Speaker 1: first five days? Why wasn't he using his cell phone
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  Speaker 1: to communicate what was going on on? Why wasn't he
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  Speaker 1: using his GPS to get back to safety. Why didn't
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  Speaker 1: he use the supplies in his backpack to save his life?
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  Speaker 1: Why did he take his boots off and then how
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  Speaker 1: did he wind up in the location he was in
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  Speaker 1: because there was no tracks that would have led to
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  Speaker 1: that spot. In nineteen fifty eight, Bobby buys Up was
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  Speaker 1: a ten year old living in Colorado. He was almost
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  Speaker 1: completely deaf, so we wore a hearing aid, and he
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  Speaker 1: came from a family that was devoutly Catholic. That summer,
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  Speaker 1: Bobby's family decided to send him to a Catholic camp
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  Speaker 1: for boys. It was located at the Saint Mellow Church
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  Speaker 1: inside of Rocky Mountain National Park. The camp itself was
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  Speaker 1: situated at the base of Mount Meeker. Anytime the boys
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  Speaker 1: were up to the mountain, which was pretty steep, they
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  Speaker 1: could always look down and see this camp. In addition,
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  Speaker 1: there was this stream that fed right by the camp,
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  Speaker 1: so if they could just get to the stream anytime
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  Speaker 1: they were up in the mountain, they could follow it
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  Speaker 1: all the way down and get back to the camp.
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  Speaker 1: This was something that they told all of the boys
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  Speaker 1: in case they got lost up in the mountain. On
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  Speaker 1: August tenth, around six pm, Bobby was a little ways
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  Speaker 1: up from the camp fishing along that river, and one
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  Speaker 1: of the camp counselors was making his way up to
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  Speaker 1: try to get all the boys to come back down
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  Speaker 1: for dinner. This camp counselor would say that he clearly
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  Speaker 1: saw Bobby recognize that it was time to come back down,
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  Speaker 1: it was time for dinner. He clearly saw Bobby turn
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  Speaker 1: and start walking down towards the camp, at which point
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  Speaker 1: the councilor turned his back on Bobby and he too
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  Speaker 1: began walking down towards the camp, which was not very
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  Speaker 1: far away. When the councilor got to the camp and
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  Speaker 1: turned back around, though, Bobby was gone, and so the
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  Speaker 1: counselor starts immediately tracing his steps back to try to
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  Speaker 1: find Bobby, but he can't find him anywhere. The counselor
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  Speaker 1: goes and gets a number of the other counselors to
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  Speaker 1: come help him find Bobby. After about thirty minutes, no
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  Speaker 1: sign of Bobby.
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  Speaker 2: He's just gone.
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  Speaker 1: The camp counselors are looking around thinking, how is this possible?
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  Speaker 1: He was literally right there, he started walking, He was
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  Speaker 1: right behind me. How could he have gotten lost in
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  Speaker 1: such a short amount of time and in an area
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  Speaker 1: where he could literally see the camp and was actually
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  Speaker 1: on the river that leads right back to the camp.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense. The councilors alerted authorities and
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  Speaker 1: this massive search is launched to find Bobby. Over three
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  Speaker 1: hundred people come out, including people from the military. It's
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  Speaker 1: this huge search, and nothing is found of this boy.
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  Speaker 1: He's completely gone. Ten days after he went missing, they
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  Speaker 1: had to call off the search because there was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: no sign of this child. Even after the search ended,
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  Speaker 1: many of the camp counselors continued to in their off time,
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  Speaker 1: scour the area around the camp to look for Bobby,
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  Speaker 1: and a year later, three camp councilors would actually find him.
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  Speaker 1: Three camp counselors decided to go to it very hard
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  Speaker 1: to access area that had been searched previously, but they
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  Speaker 1: felt like it was the one spot that needed a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more attention, and it was five kilometers west
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  Speaker 1: of the camp and almost eight hundred yards up a
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  Speaker 1: fairly steep incline. This is hard to access area, but
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  Speaker 1: they climbed their way up there, and sure enough, even
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  Speaker 1: though this area had been searched before, they found Bobby's
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  Speaker 1: hearing aid, bits of his clothing and some of his bones.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't find any more of his remains, and no
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  Speaker 1: one knows what actually happened to him, but it really
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  Speaker 1: makes you wonder what happened after the camp counselor turned
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  Speaker 1: us back on Bobby. It's as if someone scooped him
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  Speaker 1: up and flew him away, And even if he had
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  Speaker 1: intentionally run away, it would have been very difficult for
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  Speaker 1: a ten year old to get to that particular location.
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  Speaker 2: Where he was found, and to what end? Why would
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  Speaker 2: he have wanted to get up there?
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  Speaker 1: And so, like many of the other missing four to
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  Speaker 1: one one cases, we are left with a series of
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  Speaker 1: questions and very few answers. So I'd love to get
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  Speaker 1: your theories as to what's causing these strange disappearances, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll do my best to get back to as many
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  Speaker 1: people as I can. So if you enjoyed today's stories,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I would encourage you, if you have not already, to
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: sneak into the like Button's house and replace all of
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: their family pictures with pictures of Steve Buscemi. Also, please
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