Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / #BrettKeane Disappointing Experience with Islamic Muslims
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- 0:01Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keen from God TV
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- 0:58Well, as many of, you know, I Hanging out with the Muslims
- 1:01quite a bit. I have a favorite Muslim that I
- 1:05enjoy hanging out with that used to be a former atheist, former
- 1:08Christian and former, whatever he calls himself, EA dawa.
- 1:14I've enjoyed my conversations with him.
- 1:17I've had he's, he's the type of person where because he's been a
- 1:22part of other faiths, and he's also been an Atheist.
- 1:25I think he, and I can relate and identify And we understand the
- 1:31importance and significance of questions and why people would
- 1:36ask the questions that they're asking, he can basically, he has
- 1:40the skill, the ability to be able to see where I'm coming
- 1:46from as a Christian, and he also knows understands where I'm
- 1:50coming from. Whenever I talk about old,
- 1:52former atheist fuse. So whenever he gets into a
- 1:56discussion with Christians, he knows where they're coming from.
- 1:59And he also knows, Were atheists are coming from whenever he's in
- 2:02a discussion with them and it's a, it's a very fascinating
- 2:08conversation. However, he hangs out in a lot
- 2:12of other Muslim rooms. And I tried those out because I
- 2:16seen him on the screen and I assumed if I go in there, he's
- 2:20going to be hanging out with a Muslims who were as open-minded
- 2:25and decent as he is. Now, I'm not trying to say that
- 2:28the Muslims that were in We're not decent, but I didn't like
- 2:33their their debate style. I didn't like their discussion
- 2:37and the reason why as I felt like I was in a room with a
- 2:41bunch of a theist atheist, you like to mock religion and mock
- 2:46people's Bible, and all that is where I try to show nothing but
- 2:51consideration and respect for Muslims and Islam.
- 2:55I think some of the mockery is Well, to be plain and
- 3:00straightforward, but that I think what a Muslim mocks the
- 3:04Bible, it sounds stupid. I'll give you an example.
- 3:09I had a Muslim who went on a ten minute rant inside the room.
- 3:14He said that the Book of Matthew is silly because it claims that
- 3:18God Rose the Dead from the ground that it Rose a prophets
- 3:23of old from death and then brought them up into heaven with
- 3:27him. And of course, according to
- 3:30Matthew, there were Witnesses. Who claimed they'd seen the dead
- 3:33actually rise? As most of, you know, in the
- 3:36Book of Revelation it says the dead will rise.
- 3:39Eyes from the Seas and all kinds of neat Resident, Evil type of
- 3:43stuff will happen. You can look all throughout the
- 3:46Bible and you'll see where the dead are raised.
- 3:49You'll see, Jesus Christ. Be raised Lazarus, be raised,
- 3:53but you got a Muslim who say, no, that's ridiculous.
- 3:57It's stupid. That Christians actually believe
- 3:59in the story of Matthew because it is claimed in the passage
- 4:04that this happened. Now, of course, It's going to be
- 4:09difficult a challenge to historically, prove that the
- 4:14dead, walk the earth like that, what Matthews talking about, but
- 4:18it's also equally difficult and challenging to prove, the
- 4:23passages that claim that Allah brought the dead back from the
- 4:26grave. In fact, there's a passage that
- 4:28says that there was a man that was dead for almost 200 years or
- 4:32more and God brought him back to the Earth.
- 4:36There are passages where Allah actually transforms humans into
- 4:41creatures. There are passages where Allah
- 4:44does extremely Supernatural things that would be extremely
- 4:51challenging for our Modern Man to try to.
- 4:57Presuppose actually even happened.
- 4:59That's one of the reasons why the Quran as well as the Bible
- 5:03is referred to as the holy book inspired by God as where the
- 5:07Muslims of course thinks that it directly came from God himself
- 5:11like he actually wrote it down. Of course, have to admit that
- 5:15Prophet Muhammad himself was actually the one who put
- 5:19together the words and some would argue that there was a
- 5:23literacy issue of Muhammad, but he came, Fourth.
- 5:28I tried to explain repeatedly why the Bible has the value that
- 5:33it does for me. And I pointed out a question to
- 5:38them, that it seemed like the Muslims did not like their book
- 5:42actually declares that a crucifixion happened, but they
- 5:46claim that the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
- 5:49Never happened. There book claims that Jesus
- 5:52Christ died and Rose. Their book also claims that God
- 5:57had Jesus ascends to them. Now, the Bible also says that
- 6:02Jesus died and he rose and then he came up.
- 6:06The only difference between the Grand Story and the story of
- 6:09Christianity is that Christianity is convinced that
- 6:13the Son of God, Jesus Christ actually died on the cross, was
- 6:16beaten to a pulp that he his mother was there to mourn him
- 6:22and the disciples witnessed and horror as Jesus Christ was done.
- 6:27Like this, we have all these intricate stories of how the
- 6:32Romans respond, and how the Jews responded, how the Pharisees
- 6:36responded. And we have an archive of the
- 6:39disciples talking about their experience, their engagement
- 6:44with Jesus Christ, and his family.
- 6:48The Bible has enormous amounts of information telling you, from
- 6:54the moment. Jesus was born to the moment.
- 6:57He dies, who he was associated with, who he engaged.
- 7:02What part everybody had and working with Jesus Christ as
- 7:06Ministry. The Quran, unfortunately does
- 7:09not have a lot of this material in it.
- 7:12It doesn't tell you how Mary responded and reacted at the
- 7:15cross, which was one of the questions that I brought.
- 7:18Up. You see, they claim that Allah,
- 7:23according to them, did some kind of deceptive act making it
- 7:29appear as though another man was crucified, but having the
- 7:34appearance of Jesus Christ Now, they may not think that that's
- 7:40deceptive, but to me, the idea of God causing billions of
- 7:46people throughout history to believe in Jesus and that he
- 7:49died on the cross where their God is claimed to just simply
- 7:54make a man appeared to look like, Jesus is unusual to me,
- 7:58and I can understand why they wouldn't want to have too long
- 8:02of a discussion about that. Because they're basically saying
- 8:05that their God did some Supernatural ability to hide
- 8:10Jesus as identity and put another man in his place to die.
- 8:15You see the issue but it was important for me to ask the
- 8:20question. Where was Mary during this
- 8:23according to the perception of the Quran?
- 8:26Where was she at? As we know when we read the
- 8:29Bible, we could see that Mary wept.
- 8:32She cried, she held her son. Their hands.
- 8:35She watched him up there on the cross and it was tearing her
- 8:39heart out. It was horrible for her to
- 8:42experience that. Whether you believe Jesus is
- 8:45God, the Son of God or merely a prophet of God.
- 8:50She was a mother who brought this baby into the world and
- 8:54took care of it. The Quran doesn't have anything
- 8:59on it. So whenever I asked them, what
- 9:02was Mary's reaction or response to the crucifixion of some
- 9:06forgery that they claim to have happened?
- 9:08They had nothing for me. Instead they tried to go on what
- 9:12I call a Dodge and weave tactic. It's something that atheists do
- 9:16all the time where they start mumbling Arne.
- 9:19And coherently about things that I never even talked about, or
- 9:23wasn't even in a discussion about and that's where the
- 9:26market. Mockery of the Bible came up
- 9:28where they started talking about the validity and credentials of
- 9:32the Bible, they still don't seem to understand me on an
- 9:36intellectual level. Whenever I say that the Bible
- 9:40was recorded more closer to the time in which Jesus Christ
- 9:45existed as where their book was written, 600, 700 years later
- 9:50and lacks a great deal of information that the Bible does
- 9:54have and that has been historically proven I suppose
- 9:58they think I'm just as dumb as some of the non-believers they
- 10:01debated in there or they think that I'm just another Christian
- 10:05who hasn't taken the time to read my own Bible, to get an
- 10:09understanding or comprehension of it.
- 10:11It's true that there's a lot of things that some most Christians
- 10:16believe in that I have different views and ideas.
- 10:18Aren't it is true that not all Christians think alike.
- 10:23There's a lot of Christians out there who share a lot of the
- 10:25same views as me, but But for whatever reason, they feel peer
- 10:29pressured by other Christians not to speak out or talk about
- 10:33what they're into because they don't want to find themselves in
- 10:36conflict or debates or discussions is where me I
- 10:40encourage it. I encourage people to question
- 10:44debate me and try to correct me but there's one thing I do not
- 10:48like whenever I'm in a debate with an atheist a Christian or a
- 10:52Muslim. I do not like it whenever I
- 10:54bring up topics or Points and then someone goes on a 10 minute
- 10:59rant, trying to put the audience to sleep about things that I
- 11:02never even brought up, or what I've even talked about just so
- 11:06they can get around the concept of what I've asked and it angers
- 11:11an audience to whenever a person tries to stay are in focus when
- 11:15a person says. But this is what I want to know.
- 11:19My first response that I got from a Muslim in the room was
- 11:23terrible. It was awful.
- 11:25The Muslim said it doesn't matter what Mary responded are
- 11:29reacted but of course it matters.
- 11:32Of course, it's important people would want to know what the
- 11:37mother of Jesus would have felt by seeing a forgery on the cross
- 11:42or Jesus Christ himself. That's a very significant event
- 11:48in Christianity as well as what Islam has had to deal with.
- 11:54I also the last time I had a conversation with Muslims, I
- 11:57brought up Judas and what is his responsibility or assignment and
- 12:03the Quran, there is barely nothing.
- 12:07Having to do with Judas and his position, there is barely
- 12:12anything having to do with the association of the disciples and
- 12:16that book, there's a lot of material missing so it finally
- 12:22got to the point while I was talking to these Muslims where
- 12:25they started pulling the fear, tactic that some Christians have
- 12:30used on me as well as other people about their face.
- 12:33And all that, which when people do this, I believe they are.
- 12:37Well, actually destroyed when they do this.
- 12:43The guy basically started telling me that, well, the Quran
- 12:47is the true way. It's the way to go.
- 12:50And you only get one chance at this life.
- 12:52So, basically, in a polite way, told me you're going to be
- 12:56screwed if you don't accept what we're going with.
- 13:02For I've only been in it's been quite a while be since I've hung
- 13:06out with Muslims, I used to hang out with them all the time in
- 13:09the past but I've only been on like three or four shows at this
- 13:14point. And most of them have been ta-da
- 13:17was Channel called the hot seat where he has people come in for
- 13:23people to expect someone who is spent their life in America or
- 13:29has believed in certain things and all that.
- 13:31At to just change overnight, it's just intellectually
- 13:37unfeasible. It's not a I don't know what
- 13:41they think that I'm just going to be hit by the spirit, or on
- 13:45the road to Damascus. I'm going to instantly just jump
- 13:48over to Islam or become a Muslim or something like this.
- 13:55I've already pointed out several times to Christians as well as
- 13:58people of faith that I believe that there is a connection
- 14:03between the god of the Quran, as well as the connection between
- 14:07the Bible. I believe that there's a reason
- 14:10why the abrahamic faiths are relevant with Judaism Islam and
- 14:15Christianity. I already believe that Muslims
- 14:18have a point and that they have valid things that they can say.
- 14:24About the text. But when the fear tactic start
- 14:28coming out, when people are telling me that, my questions
- 14:32are not important and it doesn't mean anything, and they just
- 14:37want to preach and sermonize at me, I get bored very easily.
- 14:43I do, I started feeling more and more, like we weren't having a
- 14:47conversation, but I was going to have people doing this and they
- 14:51continued to revert back to the Trinity, the Trinity, the
- 14:55Trinity, and I Told them at the very beginning the conversation
- 14:59that I don't associate. Jesus as being the same entity
- 15:03is God I'm still a work-in-progress.
- 15:06I'm still trying to figure that out.
- 15:08I've had many a Christians, make videos to me and leave comments
- 15:12and passages are and why it is? They believe what they believe.
- 15:16And I appreciate that. But there's just so much missing
- 15:21and lacking from the Quran. What do you believe?
- 15:26The Quran is true and the Bible is incorrect.
- 15:29The point is that the Bible actually emphasizes and has
- 15:34strong concordance. It has the ability to be able to
- 15:37look into the towns, and the cities and the, and the actual
- 15:41people that actually mentions people by name.
- 15:44It even shows you where on a map, these locations are all
- 15:48this issues. It tells you about the responses
- 15:51and reactions of Jesus, his family, his friends.
- 15:54And his followers what he said during all these different
- 15:58Ministries. As where's the Quran doesn't
- 16:00spend hardly any time on that, but it does hold some of the
- 16:05claims. The Bible has such as Jesus was
- 16:07born of a virgin, that there was a crucifixion, but it just
- 16:12wasn't Jesus. It was something else that was
- 16:15up on that cross that billions of people would end up
- 16:18following. from then to now in our modern day, And they don't
- 16:25find that to be suspicious. Something unusual about that.
- 16:32Yeah, the moment that a another religion starts dissing on
- 16:36another religion for Supernatural claims you lose me,
- 16:41you just completely lose my attention.
- 16:43I'm going to continue to talk to e ta da Hua because I find him
- 16:48to be intellectually honest, but I cannot say that about every
- 16:53Christian or every Muslim or every atheist I've ever ran
- 16:57into. And every group, there's going
- 17:00to be people out there who just do not have the intellectual
- 17:03fiber to be able to have a debate or discussion or even
- 17:07focus on the topic I've been in too many debates and
- 17:11discussions. I've seen it too many times
- 17:13where people run for the hills or they start babbling aren't
- 17:17incoherently about things that you didn't even say or bring up
- 17:21or put words in your mouth, that are not even there.
- 17:24It makes me sad, it's disappointing.
- 17:27But I will stick around the Muslims who are able to actually
- 17:32carry a conversation and be able to have a discussion and not
- 17:36just want to sermonize forever and ever.
- 17:39Amen. All right ladies and gentlemen I
- 17:42hope you're having a wonderful day and will continue to do
- 17:46more. I am thinking about opening up
- 17:49my own live chats because it I got to be honest with you.
- 17:52It's difficult for me to go on other people's shows where these
- 17:57folks just Never take a breath, they just go on and on and on an
- 18:02iron. That's one of my pieces of
- 18:04kryptonite folks. If I were Superman, that would
- 18:07be my kryptonite. I cannot stand these long rants
- 18:12when there's other people, when there's over 10, people want to
- 18:14participate in conversation and he got one or two people that
- 18:18just take up the whole time. I can't stand it.
- 18:22So I'm going to probably end up having to do some live shows.
- 18:26What do you guys think about that?
- 18:28You guys guys would like to see God TV radio live show back on
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- 18:35Let me know in the comments. God bless.