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Trauma and Influence: Survivors Reframe the Narrative Around Epstein’s Global Network · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. The most important part of the story when
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  it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is the fact that he
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  destroyed so many lives, And the truth is we've only
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  heard from a fraction of the people that suffered at
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  his hands, and over the past few months or so,
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  there has been a concerted effort to try and destroy
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  the credibility of a lot of these survivors, and they
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  try to be smooth about it. You have people like
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  Anna Paulina Luna, who has a pretty big reach right
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  as a congresswoman out here posting all kinds of crazy
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  stuff on x about the survivors being traffickers themselves. And
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  while there certainly was a few instances of people that
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  were in Epstein's circle that ended up trafficking forum after
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  being abused by them, Luna instead chose to use a
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  broad brush. She could have narrowed it down, she could
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  have said this one or that one, or you know,
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  name the core four by name. But instead she lobbed
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  that grenade, knowing that it would cause confusion, and that
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  confusion would lead to people saying that the survivors themselves
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  were traffickers. She's never come back out and provided any
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  clarity about that right or context. And you know what's
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  really telling about people like Anna Paulina Luna the fact
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  she has nothing to say about Glenn Maxwell get the
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  homie hook up, Because I have news for you. If
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  you want to be angry at somebody or people when
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  it comes to this case, the survivors are not the
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  ones to be angry at. If you're looking for somebody
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  to target with your anger, my suggestion is you start
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  with the people that actually did the abusing and the
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  people that helped enable that abuse. So today we have
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  an article from The Independent and the headline this is
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  my way of trying to breathe. Epstein's survivors speak out
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  about abuse. This article was authored by Rebecca Whittaker. Four
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  years Johanna Harrison lived with the shame of the abuse
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  she suffered at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein, but when
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  her name was included in the millions of documents released
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  as part of the Epstein Files, she felt she had
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  to speak up and remember all the bullshit they gave
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  us about all the man hours being spent to make
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  sure that these names were redacted. How that work out Todd.
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  Blanche is an absolute buffoon, and he thinks the rest
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  of us are gullible. Imagine trying to pitch that BS
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  story that he pitched us, that whole ass narrative and
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  doing it with a straight face. How do you go
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  home at night and look at yourself in the mirror, like, honestly,
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  the job doesn't pay that much money. What would make
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  you sell your soul? And in my opinion, that's exactly
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  what Blanche has done. It gets to a point where
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  you're being suffocated and you need to breathe. And I
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  feel that this is my way of trying to breathe,
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  she told BBC's Newsnight. Miss Harrison and four other Epstein's
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  survivors were brought together to share their stories of grief
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  and anger and memories of his private island, Little Saint James.
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  And look again, keep in mind, this is only a
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  small portion of the women that were abused overall. These
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  are the women that are coming forward and sharing their stories.
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  And for Joanna Harrison, she didn't even want to come forward.
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  She was outed in the files and once she was outed,
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  she decided that it was time to tell her story.
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  But the vast majority of these women who were girls
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  when they were abused, they just want to put this
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  behind them. They don't want this to blow up and
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  be a whole lass thing. They have kids of their own,
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  they have careers, they have things they can lose, right,
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  never mind bringing up all these old memories. So for
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  a lot of people, this is very traumatizing. And as
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  far as I'm concerned, people that have been abused, they
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  should set the timeline for when they want to talk
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  about things. And if they feel like they never want
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  to talk about it outside of, you know, their therapist
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  or confidant whatever, that's their business too. What should never happen,
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  at least in my opinion, is that the DOJ should
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  be outing people who wanted their names to stay redacted.
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  Considering we spent a whole bunch of money and man
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  hours to make sure that didn't happen. It's gross that
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  it did, and it just shows you the kind of
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  negligence that we're dealing with. If you can't go through
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  those documents and look for the survivors' names and make
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  sure they're redacted and do so in a manner that
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  is acceptable, why should we trust you with anything when
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  it comes to this case. You can't even do the
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  redactions correctly. But you investigated everything. You left no doors unopened,
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  no rocks overturned. I mean, come on, nobody believes that,
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  even though that's what they continue to pitch. Nobody believes.
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  She met Epstein in Florida aged eighteen, and recounted how
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  he raped her on his birthday. Speaking publicly for the
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  first time, she expressed her concerns that she and other
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  survivors would not get justice now that Epstein is dead.
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  And that's a valid concern, especially considering the history here.
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  Imagine being one of these survivors and being told time
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  and time again that people were taking you seriously, that
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  they were going to look into it, they were going
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  to find out what happened, only to be deceived once again.
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  Because that's what's happened with these women time and time again,
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  by multiple administrations, by multiple law enforcement agencies, and by
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  multiple people in power. So why should they think that
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  they're going to get justice after all these years, all
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  of a sudden, they're going to get justice. Another survivor,
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  Chantey Davies, who is a trained massage therapist, shared images
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  with the BBC from her time traveling with Epstein on
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  his private plane to Africa. They included photographs of actor
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  in Spacey and former President Bill Clinton, who were traveling
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  on a humanitarian trip to promote AIDS prevention, and it
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  was Chante Davies who was giving Bill Clinton that massage
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  in the airport photo. She recalled traveling on a once
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  in a lifetime trip to five different countries in five days,
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  but she said the experience was tainted by what was
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  happening behind closed doors. She said that she was raped
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  by Epstein on his private island after being hired to
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  give him massages, but she said she never considered telling Clinton, who,
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  while giving testimony in front of the US House Oversight
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  Committee in February, said he wished miss Davies had told
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  him about Epstein's wrongdoing. Yeah, let me go and tell
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  Jeffrey Epstein's buddy, Bill Clinton that I'm being assaulted. You know,
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  the guy that I watched on TV lie about Monica Lewinsky,
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  the guy that I saw being accused by multiple women. Yeah,
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  let me go and tell him. Can we be serious
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  for a minute, please, nobody's gonna run and tell Bill Clinton?
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  What is he? Sir, fucking Lancelot? This guy's out here
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  hanging out with Epstein, having a big laugh, sharing a
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  hotel suite. But sure, I'm going to go and talk
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  to you about my abuse. Being included in the Epstein
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  files is not an indication of wrongdoing, and the former
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  US president has repeatedly said he didn't witness Epstein's abuse.
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  Spacey has called for release of all the Epstein files,
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  saying for those of us with nothing to fear, the
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  truth can't come soon enough. Imagine being Kevin Spacey and
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  speaking confidently about anything that has to do with sexual
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  assault seems like a pretty big leap to me. The
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  release of the files by the US Justice Department brought
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  to light allegations that prompted the US state of New
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  Mexico to reopen a criminal probe into Epstein's or ranch
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  after an investigation in twenty nineteen. Miss Davies said the
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  ranch was where most of the assaults happened, calling it
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  dark and dearie. Another Lisa Phillips, also said the range
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  was creepy, yo, no doubt about it. I was never
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  in the house, but when I went to the property,
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  goddamn absolutely eerie as hell. It was so vast and
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  in the middle of nowhere, and as somebody that understands
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  that kind of terrain and the kind of climate that
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  comes with it, YO, you're in for a big trouble
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  if you're trying to get away, like say, you're brought
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  there against your will, and it's the middle of the winter,
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  you're in the high desert, it's going to be freezing
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  out and chances are there's going to be snow. And
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  then in the summer, forget it. You're in the desert.
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  It's hot and for people that aren't skilled in the outdoors,
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  navigating that is not easy. And it just added to
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  the eeriness and just the overall creep factor that the
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  ranch has. Miss Phillips, who was a fashion model when
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  she met Epstein, spoke about his connection to Charles's brother
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  Andrew mount Batton Winsor. She said that her friend, who
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  wanted to remain anonymous, was allegedly instructed to have sex
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  with Mount Batton Windsor in a New York apartment in
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  two thousand and three. The former prince, who was stripped
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  of his last royal titles last year over his links
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  to the convicted pedophile, has consistently denied all wrongdoing. That's
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  worked out well for him. Huh, denied all wrongdoing. Well,
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  we all believe you, Prince Andrew. You're exactly the kind
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  of truthful guy that everybody gives the benefit of the
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  doubt to. No, no, I hear you laughing. Don't laugh.
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  He's earned it. Prince Andrew is, you know, a pillar
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  of the community, right, Just ask him. He wasn't even
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  wearing the right kid to commit any kind of abuse.
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  The former Duke of York was arrested in February on
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  suspicion of misconduct and public office over accusations that he
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  shared confidential information with Epstein while serving as a UK
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  trade envoy. He remains under police investigation by Thames Valley Police,
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  whose officers are assessing the claims that emerged in the
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  Epstein files. Now, look, who knows where that's gonna go.
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  We've talked about that how many times now, and I
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  hope that they keep digging, and I think if they do,
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  there's plenty there. But do I think it's going to
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  end up with Prince Andrew rotting in a cell? I
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  do not. And maybe that's just the cynicism that has
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  been built up in me throughout the years dealing with
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  this nonsense that comes with Epstein. But I'm in the
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  show me phase. They can say whatever they want, but
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  I want proof. Miss Phillips told the BBC she asked
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  Epstein why he had made her friend have sex with
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  Mount Batten Windsor. She claimed that Epstein replied, I like
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  to have things on people. Well, that all fits. We
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  all know that the compromount was real, and anybody denying
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  it has no idea what they're talking about. Survivor Jenna
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  Lisa Jones and Wendy Pisanti both met Epstein when they
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  were aged fourteen. Miss Pisanti said that a fourteen year
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  old should not have the mindset of a sex worker.
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  And this is what I'm talking about with people like
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  Anna Paulina Luna. You have a girl that shows up,
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  she's fourteen, and she gets caught up in this nonsense.
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  We're gonna call her a sex trafficker. You're gonna be
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  more mad at her than you are at Leon Black
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  or Jess Staley or Andrew or Gallaine Maxwell, who they're
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  not talking about at all, Who they should be talking about.
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  You know, all these people that act like they're concerned,
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  Why aren't they concerned that Gallayne Maxwell is getting the
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  treatment that she's getting. Shouldn't that be a big deal.
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  Shouldn't you be talking about that instead of trying to
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  paint these survivors as criminals, Because, make no mistake, that's
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  what people are trying to do. And the whole reason
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  that they're trying to do that is because they know
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  that the credit bil factor is going to come into play,
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  So they're trying to preempt what survivors have to say
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  by trying to paint them all as not be incredible.
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  And I think at this point that narrative has been
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  shattered because people can see and hear for themselves what
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  went down, and now that that's happening and people are
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  being exposed to what these women are saying, there's no
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  moving on. There's only moving forward. All the information that
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