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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 31 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:08
Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, December thirty
0:13
Speaker 1: feet New Year's Eve, JP Shadrick with Jeff Lockman. We
0:17
Speaker 1: have a busy show ahead of Jaguars Jaguars Colts preview
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Speaker 1: in week seventeen. One game to go? Can you believe it?
0:27
Speaker 1: The league? It appears at least right now, we'll get
0:30
Speaker 1: two D fifty six regular season games in with in review,
0:34
Speaker 1: will take a look at some of the highlights from
0:36
Speaker 1: the Jags this year, and there on a lot, but
0:37
Speaker 1: there were some. Tony Boselli joins us at four thirty
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Speaker 1: today and then head coach Doug Moron joins us at
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Speaker 1: five o'clock with the Doug Moron Show on the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Radio Network. Jeff Lockman joining us now and the logs.
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you a few hours early logs Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year do JP and uh and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna be out party in big time. I
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Speaker 1: don't know about that now. I mean we got another
1:02
Speaker 1: day of work tomorrow and then get ready for Sunday's game,
1:05
Speaker 1: so you know, so to answer your question, then probably yeah, yeah,
1:10
Speaker 1: good for you for you. No amateur night tonight it is. Everybody,
1:15
Speaker 1: be careful out there, no drinking and driving, use your
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Speaker 1: ubers and do everything tonight and be safe out there. First, First,
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Speaker 1: I see, I see with my lovely, beautiful ten year
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Speaker 1: old daughter, I can see sparklers in my future, I think.
1:32
Speaker 1: So celebrate the new year. The people shooting off fireworks
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Speaker 1: in my neighborhood for like three straight days already. So
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Speaker 1: that's just kind of how it goes. I can I
1:41
Speaker 1: can tell you that a few years ago, just a
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Speaker 1: quick story here, because this this I want this to
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Speaker 1: be a learning experience for everybody, yes okay, and to
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Speaker 1: to take heed because years ago, I remember it was
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Speaker 1: fourth of July and I said, you know what I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get these great fireworks, shoot him on
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Speaker 1: the beach and I have a good time. And so
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Speaker 1: I buy this, I mean a bunch of I bought
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Speaker 1: these big square things that have like I don't know,
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Speaker 1: like uh sixty four or you know, thirty six tubes
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Speaker 1: and enlightening, and it's it just starts going to poof, poof, poof, poof,
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Speaker 1: you know. So so I get it ready and I
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Speaker 1: put it on the on the beach and I get
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Speaker 1: some sand up around it, you know, to kind of
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Speaker 1: reinforce it. And I like that thing, and it's a poof, poof,
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Speaker 1: and one i'm blows up out the side. And when
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Speaker 1: it blows out the side, it literally it knocks this
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Speaker 1: whole cannon you know, of of tubes down on the side.
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Speaker 1: And now it's pointed at us at the dunes and
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Speaker 1: it's literally it's poof, poof, and we're like, uh. And
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Speaker 1: unfortunately nobody was killed, but yeah, it was pretty hairy
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Speaker 1: there for a while. JP and I have sworn off
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Speaker 1: of any serious fireworks ever since then. And uh. And
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Speaker 1: I know that Jason Pierre All has done the same thing,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to mock him because of what
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Speaker 1: happened to him was an absolute tragedy. But so folks
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Speaker 1: for tonight bringing in the New Year, please use caution
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Speaker 1: and don't play with fireworks. Be safe, Be safe. I
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Speaker 1: must say, since we're talking about New Year's Eve, I
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Speaker 1: think my best New Year's Eve memory was a New
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Speaker 1: Year's Eve concert at the Florida Theater. This is before
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Speaker 1: Daily's Place existed, by the way, and Greg Allman played
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Speaker 1: The Greg Allman Band played New Year's Eve at the
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Speaker 1: Florida Theater and not that long ago, and that was
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Speaker 1: a heck of a night. He played Midnight Writer at midnight.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Well, I can tell you, jp Um,
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Speaker 1: this might be one of the most anticipated New Year's
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Speaker 1: Eves just because we want to say goodbye and and
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Speaker 1: literally say a big goodbye to the year. Has been
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Speaker 1: a year of a lot of stresses and new things
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Speaker 1: and pandemic and so show unrest and politics, and it
4:03
Speaker 1: was a year that you'd like to just go ahead
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Speaker 1: and get past, you know, I mean it was, it
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Speaker 1: was definitely not It's one to remember, but it's not
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Speaker 1: one to remember for positive reasons. Let's get to football. Then,
4:14
Speaker 1: one more game remaining. It will be the start of
4:17
Speaker 1: the one Calendardar year when the game kicks off on
4:20
Speaker 1: Sunday on January three. But the Jags have fourteen consecutive
4:24
Speaker 1: losses one game left. And if you ask any coach
4:28
Speaker 1: or anybody around the NFL that's involved in coaching or scouting,
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Speaker 1: they know what can happen when losses pile up like this,
4:36
Speaker 1: change can happen. But Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach,
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Speaker 1: is not worried about what Monday could bring. He just
4:42
Speaker 1: wants to keep trying to keep this season going. I
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Speaker 1: think it's I think it's hard to say. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's been tough, it's been challenging. I think to answer
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Speaker 1: to the question with the first one, um, the one
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Speaker 1: foot outside the door situation with the players, UM, they
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Speaker 1: haven't been like that. They're not gonna change this week,
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Speaker 1: you know. UM, I really believe that as we go forward.
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Speaker 1: As far as for me as a coach, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you're not doing well, you don't ever want it
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Speaker 1: to end. You know, you want to try to keep
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Speaker 1: you know, getting opportunities and try to keep winning and
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Speaker 1: and and I think that's what's important. So one more opportunity,
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Speaker 1: Logs is what's left for this team. And it feels
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Speaker 1: like the last three four weeks month or so that
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Speaker 1: you know, they might have had juice for a half,
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Speaker 1: but then the other team just kind of puts the
5:34
Speaker 1: foot on the accelerator and pulls away from a Jaguars
5:37
Speaker 1: team that seems to be out of gas. To be
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Speaker 1: quite honest with you, at this time of year, well,
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Speaker 1: I certainly feared that way last week against the Bears,
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Speaker 1: because in the first half, you know, the Bears were
5:48
Speaker 1: giving you every opportunity to to take a lead, and
5:52
Speaker 1: they weren't playing very well. And then when halftime rolled around,
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Speaker 1: and right before half, there were some turnovers that happened,
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Speaker 1: and uh in a curious defense that allowed the Chicago
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Speaker 1: Bears to get a better position to kick a field goal.
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Speaker 1: And then he come out in the second half and
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Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's an avalanche and and you're
6:09
Speaker 1: in The Jaguars were caught up in at the Chicago
6:11
Speaker 1: Bears score. I think it was like four strap possessions
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Speaker 1: and and it wasn't good for the Jaguars in that situation.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's almost seems like they run out of
6:19
Speaker 1: gas or have run out of gas, and it looks
6:21
Speaker 1: seasons are long, and I and this is a young
6:24
Speaker 1: football team. And I remember being a young football player.
6:26
Speaker 1: And I'd hate to say this, but I was on
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Speaker 1: a bad football team all the way back in nine
6:32
Speaker 1: and I was kind of counting down the days to
6:33
Speaker 1: where that season would end. I mean, it was it
6:35
Speaker 1: was miserable. UM didn't win a lot of games when
6:39
Speaker 1: I was with the Jets and had a coaching situation
6:42
Speaker 1: that was not very popular in my mind with Joe Walton,
6:45
Speaker 1: who was arguably the worst football coach had football coach
6:48
Speaker 1: that I've ever played for. And it did make it fun,
6:52
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a good environment. It was toxic and
6:54
Speaker 1: you just couldn't wait until the season then. But you know,
6:57
Speaker 1: on on the flip side of that, the environment with
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Speaker 1: Doug own has been very positive. And I give Doug
7:02
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for that because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of coaches that would be in an environment like that
7:09
Speaker 1: and would find it very easy to just point the
7:11
Speaker 1: fingers at the roster and say, well, we're not getting
7:14
Speaker 1: done because let me look at the roster. I mean
7:15
Speaker 1: we we don't have anybody. I mean we're the youngest
7:18
Speaker 1: team in the league where you know, twelve draft picks,
7:20
Speaker 1: we got sixteen and total rookies on the team. Doug's
7:23
Speaker 1: never done that, you know, And and Doug has continued
7:26
Speaker 1: to encourage his team and to say that, look, I
7:29
Speaker 1: appreciate these guys and are working hard and and I
7:32
Speaker 1: think that goes a long way. But you also you
7:34
Speaker 1: hit a certain point, uh And it's human nature where
7:37
Speaker 1: you hit a certain point where he's like, you're not
7:39
Speaker 1: getting anything in return. And I think the damn kind
7:42
Speaker 1: of broke a little bit with the Jaguars and and
7:45
Speaker 1: especially with some of the draft pick talk over the
7:47
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, and now that's kind of subsided.
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Speaker 1: Can can you kind of get past that? I don't know,
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Speaker 1: But the Jaguars right now are just not playing very
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Speaker 1: good football, jp offensively, defensively, They're just not playing good football.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be tough to to beat
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Speaker 1: the foot ball team that's gonna be rip roaring and
8:01
Speaker 1: ready to go in the Indianapolis cult, because look, they've
8:04
Speaker 1: got the playoffs on the line. They need a little
8:06
Speaker 1: bit of help, but the chances of them getting help
8:08
Speaker 1: are great, and so I'm sure they're preparing expecting to
8:11
Speaker 1: have that chance. Through the magic of the internet logs,
8:15
Speaker 1: I've gone and looked up the nineteen eighty nine New
8:17
Speaker 1: York Jets, and of course your team finished four. Yeah,
8:21
Speaker 1: it was right. Four and twelve was the record that year.
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Speaker 1: Walton was the head coach. But you guys won back
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Speaker 1: to back games the last week of November in the
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Speaker 1: first week of December to get to what two and nine,
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Speaker 1: and then reeled off three straight losses to in the
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Speaker 1: season where you were outscored by a combined eight to fourteen. Yeah,
8:43
Speaker 1: we got we got our our butts. I'll use that word,
8:46
Speaker 1: our bucks handed to us. And uh And one thing
8:50
Speaker 1: I remember about that year, we we had we had
8:54
Speaker 1: a pretty good draft class. It was oh yeah, it
8:58
Speaker 1: was a number one. Of course, we know, the first
9:02
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, okay, that's it wasn't because of me,
9:07
Speaker 1: but I think long term, if you look at it, uh,
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Speaker 1: it was myself, Dennis Bird who Dennis was a fantastic
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Speaker 1: football player. We had Marvin Washington, ron Stalworth, Joe Mott
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Speaker 1: and uh and we all played a significant role and
9:21
Speaker 1: played a lot for our football team that year. But
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Speaker 1: I'll just I'll never forget. I mean, we have a
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Speaker 1: head coach and he calls all of us rookies in
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Speaker 1: to his office and he literally proceeds to tell us
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Speaker 1: how it is our fault that the season is going
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Speaker 1: the way it is and that we're not carrying our
9:40
Speaker 1: own way. And I went and I was sitting there
9:43
Speaker 1: saying to myself, I'm a green rookie and I got
9:47
Speaker 1: this guy telling me that I'm the reason why we suck,
9:52
Speaker 1: and and he's sitting there blaming it on on us
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Speaker 1: four guys, five guys that were in that room. Wait
10:00
Speaker 1: a minute, I mean what about the other you know,
10:03
Speaker 1: forty seven guys that are in on our football team.
10:07
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe it. And from that point on,
10:10
Speaker 1: I lost all respect for Joe Walton. I couldn't wait
10:13
Speaker 1: until he was fired and uh and uh. Fortunately we
10:19
Speaker 1: ended up having some change and and we got a
10:22
Speaker 1: little bit better. We had Bruce Coslet as a head coach,
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Speaker 1: and then I got to have one of the greatest
10:26
Speaker 1: experience working with a coach I've ever had my professional career,
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Speaker 1: which was Pete Carroll was our defensive coordinator who everybody
10:32
Speaker 1: knows as the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. And
10:35
Speaker 1: we had some marvelous coaches on that Bruce cos led staff,
10:38
Speaker 1: and uh. I could go through the list, but I won't,
10:41
Speaker 1: but I will tell you JP my rookie season was
10:44
Speaker 1: it was a tough go and uh. But the one
10:47
Speaker 1: thing I think that that that happened was I learned
10:50
Speaker 1: a lot, and I learned a lot from the veteran guys.
10:53
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from the coaches that I was around,
10:55
Speaker 1: and sometimes I learned things that weren't very positive, and
10:58
Speaker 1: I kind of swore that, look, if I were getting
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Speaker 1: that position again, I'm not gonna let this kind of happen.
11:02
Speaker 1: And so you learn a lot. I think, you know,
11:04
Speaker 1: when you're a young player, and you know, you hope
11:06
Speaker 1: that this Jaguars football team learns a lot. These young
11:08
Speaker 1: players learn a lot so that in the future is
11:11
Speaker 1: going to help them become better players. And because ultimately,
11:16
Speaker 1: this game is about winning, and if you don't win,
11:19
Speaker 1: it's not a fun job. I can tell you that.
11:21
Speaker 1: And and the reality is is that if you're not
11:24
Speaker 1: winning in the National Football League, it becomes an absolute grind.
11:28
Speaker 1: And it's not even a grind that you enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: It becomes toxic and it becomes no fun, and it
11:33
Speaker 1: makes you want to find maybe a different type of employment.
11:36
Speaker 1: But the reality sets in, I can't make this kind
11:38
Speaker 1: of money doing anything that's right. So you put that
11:44
Speaker 1: along here, mullet in a ponytail and go get better,
11:47
Speaker 1: is what you would do. Roll you roll up the
11:49
Speaker 1: sleeves and you get back to work. And you know,
11:51
Speaker 1: that's what this football team is going to have to do.
11:53
Speaker 1: A lot of these young players are gonna have to do,
11:55
Speaker 1: you know, going forward, because when you sit there and
11:58
Speaker 1: you're expecting the caval to arrive and to provide instant help,
12:02
Speaker 1: it ain't coming. I mean it, Uh, look around yourself,
12:06
Speaker 1: and and I know a lot of people are talking
12:07
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence and are kind of view and him
12:09
Speaker 1: as a savior for this football team. And I think
12:12
Speaker 1: he's a wonderful football player, and I think he's gonna
12:14
Speaker 1: be a tremendous asset to the Jaguars or whoever ends
12:17
Speaker 1: up drafting him. I mean, because it's not sure that
12:20
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is going to be the draft pick. But
12:23
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other things that have to go
12:25
Speaker 1: right for the organization in the future, for this organization
12:28
Speaker 1: to change course and to start becoming an organization that
12:32
Speaker 1: is successful. We have flitting Ahead will return in just
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Speaker 1: a moment a little more about this Jaguars Colts match up,
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Speaker 1: and we'll discuss the Colts a little bit. How different
12:41
Speaker 1: are they now than they were way back in Week one?
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Speaker 1: Probably my twenty eight years of coaching. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's been a tough year. Um. Obviously we do really appreciate,
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Speaker 1: you know, UM obviously the players and that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: It just didn't turn out the way we wanted it. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think they're extremely hard working group, and uh, I
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Speaker 1: think we've got a good coaching staff. But it just
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Speaker 1: this year. And uh, it's been frustrated. Are frustrating, but
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Speaker 1: at least, you know, hopefully we can go out on
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Speaker 1: good note this week versus Indie Todd Washed, Jaguar's defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator earlier this week, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy our j
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Speaker 1: P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman. We're about what thirteen minutes away
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Speaker 1: or so from Tony BASSELLI, So get your alarm clocks ready.
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Speaker 1: He'll be ready at four thirty coming up to join us.
17:22
Speaker 1: Todd Wash there though, Logs obviously a tough year on
17:26
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, tough year for the
17:27
Speaker 1: entire team. But let's break it down to defense. I
17:30
Speaker 1: mean this group that you ran out there on opening
17:32
Speaker 1: day against the Colts, that got two interceptions on tip
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Speaker 1: balls against Philip Rivers and made plays to keep that
17:39
Speaker 1: team in the game and ultimately win the game. Is
17:41
Speaker 1: not the same defense that's running out there in Week
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Speaker 1: seventeen against the Colts. It's not even closed. Shobern and
17:48
Speaker 1: Miles Jack are about the only guys left from the
17:50
Speaker 1: starting group. Yeah, I mean, it's uh. I'm looking at
17:54
Speaker 1: my board here because I've got a list of defenders on.
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Speaker 1: I R Josh Allen, Dan Thomas, who actually played really
18:01
Speaker 1: well safety position when he was in there, d J.
18:04
Speaker 1: Hay And you're starting Nickel Von Hamilton who end up
18:07
Speaker 1: being your starting knows a starting corner in C. J. Henderson,
18:10
Speaker 1: you're starting Sam and Leon Jacobs, you're starting Nose and
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Speaker 1: Abrey Jones. I mean it's uh. And And here's the thing, JP,
18:18
Speaker 1: when you when you have that many people on I
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Speaker 1: R from a defense that had a lot of young
18:26
Speaker 1: talent and doesn't have or did not have a lot
18:29
Speaker 1: of veteran talent around it, that's a tough ask, you know.
18:32
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars defense ranked dead last in the National
18:35
Speaker 1: Football League, thirty second in yards allowed per game, and
18:39
Speaker 1: as far as scoring defense goes, there the second worst
18:42
Speaker 1: defense in the National Football League. So it's been a
18:45
Speaker 1: tough go and uh, and obviously they need an influx
18:50
Speaker 1: of talent and need a little bit of change. And
18:51
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's what happens when you lose, you know,
18:54
Speaker 1: when you have fourteen consecutive losses, changes coming, Make no
18:57
Speaker 1: mistake about it. It really starts in the middle of
19:01
Speaker 1: that defensive line. We can go back to the opt
19:05
Speaker 1: outs at the start of the year as really kind
19:07
Speaker 1: of setting the tone there. Al Woods was supposed to
19:09
Speaker 1: be a big anchor in the middle. Rodney Gunter had
19:12
Speaker 1: the hard issue. Woods opted out to COVID nineteen concerns
19:16
Speaker 1: and then Gunter, as we said, hard the hard issues,
19:18
Speaker 1: so he retired. So those two guys weren't available. Those
19:20
Speaker 1: are two big free agent names, not huge free agent names,
19:24
Speaker 1: but for the Jaguars, big names that you had signed
19:26
Speaker 1: hoping they would contribute. That didn't happen. And they haven't
19:29
Speaker 1: been able really to catch up on the interior all
19:31
Speaker 1: year long. And that's where teams have attacked this group.
19:34
Speaker 1: When you don't have that stout interior of your defensive line,
19:37
Speaker 1: teams can just run right at you. I mean, you go,
19:41
Speaker 1: you go back, and you compare this team to the
19:43
Speaker 1: one you had in seventeen. It's just I mean it's
19:48
Speaker 1: not it's not even close. And and how do you
19:51
Speaker 1: go from that defense that you had in in seventeen,
19:56
Speaker 1: which at one point was on on a pace to
19:59
Speaker 1: do historic things and almost did historic things as a
20:04
Speaker 1: defense two three years later? I mean, you're you're the
20:10
Speaker 1: worst in the league. I mean just, I mean, how
20:12
Speaker 1: how do you let that happen? Well, a lot of
20:15
Speaker 1: different reasons. You start trading away people people, Yeah, I
20:20
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, and and and I just don't
20:22
Speaker 1: know how, Uh, the personnel department expected the Jaguars to
20:29
Speaker 1: be able to have a chance when you go from
20:34
Speaker 1: that type of roster to literally starting a new and
20:39
Speaker 1: uh and look at especially and it wasn't expected, but
20:43
Speaker 1: you had a year of COVID. And so the last
20:47
Speaker 1: thing that you want to do when you don't have
20:49
Speaker 1: the ability to practice and to have O T A
20:52
Speaker 1: s and mini camps is to go extremely young. And
20:57
Speaker 1: because you know, you don't, you just it's hard to look,
21:00
Speaker 1: there's nothing to get well, Look, young players have to
21:03
Speaker 1: get better. I mean young players have to get repetitions
21:08
Speaker 1: to be able to be better. And much like and
21:10
Speaker 1: the reason I brought up the story about Joe Walton.
21:13
Speaker 1: You can't expect the core of your football team to
21:17
Speaker 1: be rookies and expect them to carry your football team.
21:22
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. And it's never worked in the
21:25
Speaker 1: National Football League. I mean, look at look at the
21:28
Speaker 1: history of the league. It doesn't It doesn't work. And
21:31
Speaker 1: so a tough year, and you'd like to have a
21:35
Speaker 1: lot of maybe a do over to where you say, Okay,
21:37
Speaker 1: well we don't want to go that young, and let's
21:40
Speaker 1: have some veteran guys where we can and it will
21:42
Speaker 1: sprinkle in the young guys. And but it certainly didn't
21:45
Speaker 1: work out that way, and and obviously it was a
21:48
Speaker 1: it was a big mistake. So this week against the
21:51
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts that are running the ball very well with
21:55
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and Philip Rivers is basically playing on one
21:59
Speaker 1: foot the days, what kind of challenges this matchup this week? Well,
22:04
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is a good football player now and he
22:07
Speaker 1: takes a lot of pressure off of everybody. And the
22:10
Speaker 1: reason why it's important for the Colts is they've got
22:13
Speaker 1: some issues that tackle Costanzo ended up going on injured
22:16
Speaker 1: reserve because he had an ankle injury. In practice. I
22:20
Speaker 1: guess it was last week and it requires surgery, so
22:22
Speaker 1: he's going to go to ir to get the surgery.
22:25
Speaker 1: Brandon Smith, who was their starting right tackle, was on
22:28
Speaker 1: the COVID list. He has been activated from that. So
22:30
Speaker 1: they've had issues and they're gonna have some some issues,
22:35
Speaker 1: I think even this week with Costanzo out. But when
22:38
Speaker 1: you have issues with the offensive line, the hardest thing
22:41
Speaker 1: in the world for backup offensive lineman or replacement offensive
22:44
Speaker 1: lineman and Douce pass protect and that's not what the
22:47
Speaker 1: Jaguars do very well. And the easiest thing for offensive
22:51
Speaker 1: lineman to do is to run block, and that's exactly
22:53
Speaker 1: what the Indianapolis Colts want to do. They've got a
22:56
Speaker 1: great back in Jonathan Taylor, which remember when the Jaguars
22:59
Speaker 1: face the Colts the first time, Jonathan Taylor was still
23:02
Speaker 1: trying to figure out which way to run and Marlon
23:05
Speaker 1: Mack was the feature back. With Marlon Mack end up
23:07
Speaker 1: getting hurt, he goes on I R and and all
23:09
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Jonathan Taylor has to carry the load.
23:11
Speaker 1: And over the last four weeks, Jonathan Taylor has arguably
23:14
Speaker 1: been the best back in the National Football League. If
23:17
Speaker 1: not the best back, one of the best backs. And
23:19
Speaker 1: there's only two people in the National Football League that
23:23
Speaker 1: are going to compete with James Robinson for the rookie
23:27
Speaker 1: title holder of the yard most yards from scrimmage for
23:31
Speaker 1: the year, and it's two. It's Justin Jefferson of the
23:34
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and then this Jonathan Taylor that we're gonna
23:37
Speaker 1: see this week with the ind Anapolis Colts. He's been
23:39
Speaker 1: that good. As much as we rave about James Robinson,
23:42
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor wasn't in the starting lineup right away. He
23:45
Speaker 1: worked his way into it, and he's a tremendous back
23:48
Speaker 1: and uh, and he's got a chance to surpass James
23:50
Speaker 1: Robinson's total yards from scrimmage in this game this week. Yeah.
23:53
Speaker 1: The last five games he's played, he uh, he's played
23:57
Speaker 1: five out of the last six games, by the way,
23:59
Speaker 1: for the Colts. He's got ninety yards or more in
24:03
Speaker 1: three of those he went for eighty three another time
24:06
Speaker 1: seventy four. In the last three games, he's got five touchdowns.
24:08
Speaker 1: So he's finding the end zone. He's getting all that
24:11
Speaker 1: yardage and doing things the right way for Indianapolis. And
24:14
Speaker 1: he's a tough yeah, because even though I mean, look,
24:17
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is potential Hall of Famer. Uh, he's uh
24:22
Speaker 1: in top ten and numerous cady potential. He's going to
24:25
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Locks that's the argument, he's gotta go.
24:29
Speaker 1: You gotta put him in anyway. Well, I mean you
24:32
Speaker 1: don't have to. I mean, you don't have to put
24:33
Speaker 1: anybody in. Well, he's gonna go, And well, I mean
24:37
Speaker 1: maybe not. I mean, look, you never know. I'm just
24:40
Speaker 1: it's not nothing. Nobody's a shoe and I don't think
24:42
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a shoe. And I think there
24:44
Speaker 1: are certain guys that are an absolute shoe in. But
24:46
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers I would expect to be in, right. But
24:48
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's a he's a definite.
24:50
Speaker 1: But but my point is is that he has been
24:53
Speaker 1: a marvelous quarterback to where he could shoulder the burden
24:56
Speaker 1: carry a football team if need be. And that's not
25:00
Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers over the last couple of years. Philip
25:03
Speaker 1: Rivers is at his best when he doesn't feel like
25:05
Speaker 1: he has to carry the football team, because when he
25:07
Speaker 1: does feel like that, he starts to throw the ball
25:09
Speaker 1: to the wrong color jerseys as we saw in Week one,
25:13
Speaker 1: and then we've seen for many years, the last couple
25:15
Speaker 1: of years that he was with the Chargers. So this year,
25:18
Speaker 1: I think with the Marlon Mack running the football and
25:21
Speaker 1: then Jonathan Taylor running football and having success, takes a
25:24
Speaker 1: lot of pressure off of Philip Rivers. That allows him
25:27
Speaker 1: to be a better quarterback because it doesn't feel the
25:29
Speaker 1: bird to carry the football team, and that makes the
25:32
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts better. And I think that's the big difference
25:35
Speaker 1: between Week one when the Jaguars face them too now
25:39
Speaker 1: where they're facing them, is that the big difference is
25:42
Speaker 1: is that they're not expecting Philip Rivers to carry a team.
25:45
Speaker 1: I was so curious the first week when the Indianapolis Colts.
25:48
Speaker 1: You come out with Frank Reich and you got this
25:51
Speaker 1: offense that in the past when you had Jocoby Burt
25:54
Speaker 1: said at the quarterback position, you were relying on your
25:56
Speaker 1: run game and that very good, if not great, offensive
25:59
Speaker 1: line that had, and they came out of the gate,
26:02
Speaker 1: We're letting Philip Rivers throw the ball over the yard
26:04
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I can't believe that they're
26:05
Speaker 1: doing this because their strength is their offensive line. But
26:09
Speaker 1: you know're not They're not even trying to run the football.
26:11
Speaker 1: And I mean, heck, when you got a guy like
26:12
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson who starts hollering when he's hitting people and
26:16
Speaker 1: pulling and stuff, I mean, man, let him, let him yell,
26:19
Speaker 1: you know. And they just didn't do it in week one,
26:21
Speaker 1: So I don't expect that kind of a game plan
26:23
Speaker 1: this week. I think they're gonna come out and try
26:25
Speaker 1: to establish a hard nosed attitude and run Jonathan Taylor
26:28
Speaker 1: harden and allow Philip Rivers to pick and choose when
26:30
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26:33
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26:36
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26:41
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Speaker 1: Earlier this week Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, and he's
31:04
Speaker 1: speaking of James Robinson, by the way, Jaguars running back
31:07
Speaker 1: j P Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, and Tony Vasselli joins us. Now,
31:12
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the Jaguars left tackle. Happy New Year, Tony,
31:16
Speaker 1: what's up? Happy New Year's guys? Are we doing? We're
31:20
Speaker 1: ready getting ready for Week seventeen? Doing well over here,
31:24
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get to the new year, New
31:26
Speaker 1: new year. New Jags team this Sunday. Yeah, it's just
31:29
Speaker 1: about over it. It's it's been a long year. That's
31:34
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Most people in this world
31:39
Speaker 1: are ready to get behind them and move on to one.
31:42
Speaker 1: And I think most Jags fans are saying, hey, bring one,
31:45
Speaker 1: let's get this behind us. Let's get this uh fourteen,
31:49
Speaker 1: losing game, losing street behind us. Hopefully you can start
31:52
Speaker 1: of the upset victory over the Colts and send those
31:56
Speaker 1: guys home packing. That'd be nice to have. I think. Also,
32:00
Speaker 1: let me add to this that I think Jaguars fans
32:02
Speaker 1: uh there. I'm sure there's some of them that are
32:04
Speaker 1: very happy to be able to to be back to
32:07
Speaker 1: rooting for their football team this week, because I think
32:12
Speaker 1: there was quite a few Jaguar fans last week that
32:14
Speaker 1: were maybe miniature Chicago Bears fans so that the Jaguars
32:19
Speaker 1: could get the first overall picks. I'm kind of glad
32:22
Speaker 1: that that's behind everything and behind us now so that
32:26
Speaker 1: you can get back to rooting your team on the victory.
32:29
Speaker 1: How many people you think outside of the players, coaches,
32:32
Speaker 1: and their immediate families members were rooting for the Jags
32:37
Speaker 1: victory last week, like a per cent than I percent.
32:44
Speaker 1: I'm much even get a percent. I won't think it's
32:45
Speaker 1: one percent. I'm thinking, like people, yeah, it's not a
32:51
Speaker 1: whole lot. I don't think. I mean, I can tell
32:53
Speaker 1: you this that when when the Jaguars lost to the
32:59
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears and in the New York just one I mean,
33:01
Speaker 1: my phone just blew up. Everybody's like, yes, Jaguards are
33:05
Speaker 1: gonna get the first pick. I mean, I'm just like, Okay,
33:07
Speaker 1: I know that. I mean, you don't have to tell
33:09
Speaker 1: me that. I'm kind of in the football business and
33:11
Speaker 1: I can, you know, decipher all that information myself. But
33:15
Speaker 1: I mean, just people's level of excitement, and I get
33:18
Speaker 1: it because the level of excitement that people are having
33:20
Speaker 1: in association with having the first overall draft pick is
33:23
Speaker 1: that it represents hope. It represents hope that this football
33:26
Speaker 1: team can be better in the future. That was hearing
33:29
Speaker 1: for people. I had not heard from it forever, like
33:31
Speaker 1: all out of the blue, Hey, number one pick, and well, yeah,
33:34
Speaker 1: I'm sitting right here, I get it. Thanks for the news. Yeah,
33:43
Speaker 1: we've been living it. We get it. That's right now.
33:46
Speaker 1: This week to pull the upset against the Indianapolis Colts,
33:50
Speaker 1: they might have to do it without some offensive pieces.
33:52
Speaker 1: James Robinson didn't practice again today. Doug Marone earlier this
33:55
Speaker 1: week was honest with everybody and said it's really likely
33:58
Speaker 1: he's not going to play. We just heard J Gruden
34:01
Speaker 1: discuss his rookie campaign so far. Colin Johnson the same way.
34:05
Speaker 1: Doug Maroom said he's probably not available this week. DJ
34:08
Speaker 1: Chark hasn't practiced this week yet with a shin issue.
34:12
Speaker 1: So you're losing some big time offensive pieces if if
34:15
Speaker 1: those three guys aren't out there, Tony, Yeah, I mean listen,
34:19
Speaker 1: even if you had all of them, it's a tough
34:20
Speaker 1: it's tough sledding. I mean, they beat this team opening
34:23
Speaker 1: weekend with out forcing a punt um. They played pretty
34:28
Speaker 1: good offensively, they were opportunistic with some uh Philip rivers
34:33
Speaker 1: uh uh turnovers. But yeah, I mean it's an offensive
34:37
Speaker 1: struggled to score the last three weeks. They've scarled. They
34:39
Speaker 1: struggled to score all year, and so now you're gonna
34:41
Speaker 1: you know, we we've done. James Robinson was gonna play,
34:44
Speaker 1: you know, don't now, No DJ Chark, So I think
34:48
Speaker 1: it's tough. Um. This is a game that's the only
34:51
Speaker 1: way they have a chance to win in my opinion
34:53
Speaker 1: is you know, a bunch of turnovers from the Colts,
34:56
Speaker 1: a score maybe on defensive score and special teams. I
34:59
Speaker 1: mean that it's one of those games now you need
35:01
Speaker 1: all three phases scoring points because offensively you're just not
35:04
Speaker 1: gonna have enough, especially gets a good Colts defense. Yeah,
35:10
Speaker 1: I think it's a shame. I'm disappointed for James Robinson
35:14
Speaker 1: because he could have set some records, I mean, and
35:17
Speaker 1: he was on pace to do it. He's been tremendous
35:20
Speaker 1: and then to have the tackle end up hurting his
35:23
Speaker 1: ankle and taking him out of the last two games.
35:26
Speaker 1: I think it's very unfortunate because I think he only
35:29
Speaker 1: needed like thirty five yards end up surpassing Dominic Roads
35:32
Speaker 1: for the all time undrafted rookie rusher and UH and
35:36
Speaker 1: at the pace that he was going, he had a
35:37
Speaker 1: good opportunity at breaking Fred Taylor's rookie record for yards
35:41
Speaker 1: rushing by rookie in the season. So unfortunate for him
35:46
Speaker 1: and UH. But at the same token, you don't want
35:50
Speaker 1: to have a guy going out there and if he's
35:52
Speaker 1: got a high ankle, I don't know but you don't
35:54
Speaker 1: need a guy that you just discovered this year and
35:57
Speaker 1: he could be a real strong building block for you
36:00
Speaker 1: in the future. You don't put him at risk for
36:03
Speaker 1: for a game in which you're you're one in fourteen.
36:06
Speaker 1: He just you just don't do it. I mean, even
36:08
Speaker 1: if it's like, okay, he can play, he can grit
36:11
Speaker 1: it out. You know, let's give him, you know, taping
36:13
Speaker 1: aspirin to it and pop a couple of tailing all
36:16
Speaker 1: or you know, take a couple of shots of tour
36:18
Speaker 1: it all or whatever the old school ways of doing
36:20
Speaker 1: it work. No, I mean, just you just don't do it.
36:23
Speaker 1: I mean, he's uh, he's gonna be a valuable part
36:26
Speaker 1: of this franchise going in the future. Yeah, let him sit,
36:30
Speaker 1: let him get ready for campaign, because he will be
36:34
Speaker 1: a building block for this team. And we'll see what
36:38
Speaker 1: they run out there at receiver this week. If all
36:40
Speaker 1: those guys aren't out there either, I mean, you'll have
36:42
Speaker 1: some new faces at that. I don't worry. I don't
36:45
Speaker 1: worry about I don't I don't worry about the wide
36:47
Speaker 1: receiver group. I think they got they got some talented guys,
36:49
Speaker 1: They've got depth. It's the it's the one position group
36:53
Speaker 1: that at the beginning of the year, I think everybody
36:55
Speaker 1: and we all thought that that was one of the
36:57
Speaker 1: one of the groups that was a position of strength.
37:00
Speaker 1: And uh. And I think Caitlan Cole and Laviska Chanal
37:03
Speaker 1: and some of these young guys that they even have
37:05
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, I think they'll be totally fun.
37:08
Speaker 1: The big question is is not the wide receiver group,
37:10
Speaker 1: it's can the quarterback get him the ball? Yeah, Mike
37:14
Speaker 1: Lennon getting the start this week, and you know, let's
37:17
Speaker 1: we got Tony here, so let's get into the offensive
37:20
Speaker 1: line while we're at it. And I think we talked
37:23
Speaker 1: about this every week on every show pretty much, but
37:26
Speaker 1: let's start at left tackle Cam Robinson. I mean, he's
37:29
Speaker 1: got one game to go in this contract year. What
37:32
Speaker 1: has he proven to you this year? Tony? Um, he's
37:35
Speaker 1: better than he's been all year, I mean, in his career,
37:39
Speaker 1: and this is his best football seasons as far as
37:42
Speaker 1: the left tackle, still a consistent, still not top level
37:45
Speaker 1: against top competition. Outside of last week, I thought he
37:48
Speaker 1: played well because that Bears front. I thought both tackles
37:50
Speaker 1: did for the most part. Um, So you know, he's
37:55
Speaker 1: a free agent. I've jp We've talked about it on
37:58
Speaker 1: the Monday Show quite a bit. I mean, is my
38:00
Speaker 1: position on the whole thing. If you look at camera Robinson,
38:03
Speaker 1: he's been there four years. Do I believe came Robins
38:05
Speaker 1: says talent? Yes? Do I believe he brings toughness yes?
38:08
Speaker 1: Is he a good run blocker? Yes. He's inconsistent in
38:10
Speaker 1: the past game because of technique, not because of ability
38:13
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Um. With that said, he's had one
38:19
Speaker 1: above average year and that would be this year. It's
38:21
Speaker 1: his contract year. So do you pay a guy a
38:23
Speaker 1: bunch of money which left tackles to get a ton
38:26
Speaker 1: of money in today's market based on a one above
38:30
Speaker 1: average year where he was ready to play. He was
38:33
Speaker 1: a professional, meaning he was in shape, he looked ready,
38:35
Speaker 1: his body was ready and everything else. But it was
38:37
Speaker 1: his contract year. Are you willing to put a bunch
38:40
Speaker 1: of money in that left tackle position to uh in
38:43
Speaker 1: a guy like that? For me? Um, obviously you know
38:47
Speaker 1: you would want to talk to him if you can
38:49
Speaker 1: get the right price. That's good for him and good
38:52
Speaker 1: the team. We're both sides are happy. Um, then absolutely
38:55
Speaker 1: you would do it because you're gonna have a young quarterback,
38:58
Speaker 1: you know, assuming they'd Trevor Lawrence, that you need to
39:02
Speaker 1: make sure you have above average, very good offensive line
39:05
Speaker 1: and you don't want to fill a left tackle position
39:07
Speaker 1: as well as several other positions on this team. But um,
39:12
Speaker 1: my guest is Cam Robinsons who want to go be
39:13
Speaker 1: a free agent? Test free agency? And I'm not sure
39:16
Speaker 1: you're this team's gonna want to pay as much money
39:18
Speaker 1: as it's gonna take based on what a left tackle
39:21
Speaker 1: can get in the open market. I think Cam Robinson
39:26
Speaker 1: would be crazy not to try to go to a
39:29
Speaker 1: free agency And yeah, but there here's the reality. There's
39:34
Speaker 1: not a team in the National Football League that's gonna
39:36
Speaker 1: have more cap space to be able to spend on
39:39
Speaker 1: a free agent left tackle than the Jaguars. The Jaguars
39:42
Speaker 1: are gonna have a ton of cap space. There's gonna
39:44
Speaker 1: be a lot of teams in the National Football League
39:47
Speaker 1: this year this off season are gonna be trying to
39:49
Speaker 1: figure out ways not to sign a left tackle, but
39:51
Speaker 1: trying to figure out ways in which they can get
39:53
Speaker 1: out of the cap, which is gonna take a significant
39:55
Speaker 1: drop because of loss of revenue from COVID. So what
40:00
Speaker 1: will the market bear. I think that's gonna be a
40:03
Speaker 1: tricky situation, and I think it's one that he almost
40:06
Speaker 1: want to allow the player to get to the market
40:09
Speaker 1: so that he can see where the market is at.
40:12
Speaker 1: Because if his expectation is built and I don't know
40:15
Speaker 1: what his expectation, it's just let me perhaps it with that.
40:19
Speaker 1: But if his expectation is based on what the numbers
40:22
Speaker 1: of other left tackles are in the league, and they
40:25
Speaker 1: got their numbers based on other salary cap situations, and
40:30
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to be realistic with the with the
40:32
Speaker 1: guy unless you allow him to get to that to
40:34
Speaker 1: the market to actually see what it's gonna bear. Well,
40:38
Speaker 1: I mean, look at you. Look at what Garrett Bowles
40:40
Speaker 1: just signed for same draft class. He's a late first
40:43
Speaker 1: rounder with the Denver Broncos. He just signed a seventeen
40:46
Speaker 1: million dollar on average. I think it's a four year
40:49
Speaker 1: deal with a bunch of money guaranteed. Jeff, you pay
40:52
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson seventeen million bucks a year to play left
40:54
Speaker 1: tackle for your team? No, and I wouldn't have paid
40:57
Speaker 1: Garrett Bowls that buddy. But if that's the market, I mean,
41:01
Speaker 1: that's I mean that if that's the price tag you have,
41:05
Speaker 1: you have significant money and you're sending you have significant
41:08
Speaker 1: money in your left guard. Um, which by the way,
41:11
Speaker 1: both of out performed your left tackle in my position.
41:13
Speaker 1: As far as just play overall play, Um, you gotta
41:19
Speaker 1: make a decision. And I agree with Jeff. I mean
41:20
Speaker 1: the Caps will be interesting this year. I do think
41:24
Speaker 1: you can sit back and maybe take a little bit
41:25
Speaker 1: of time. Now I would take a shot at Cam.
41:27
Speaker 1: You can get him from ten to twelve million bucks.
41:29
Speaker 1: If he's wanting to sign it, which I'd be shocked
41:31
Speaker 1: if he would be. I think he will want to
41:32
Speaker 1: test the market. Um, I would go. I would sign him.
41:36
Speaker 1: But if you test the market. I think the conversation
41:38
Speaker 1: with his age and said, hey, listen, go test it. Um,
41:41
Speaker 1: understand though we're going to test the mark. We're to
41:43
Speaker 1: go out there and find a left tackle and if
41:45
Speaker 1: you don't get what you like, give us a call back,
41:48
Speaker 1: because you know, it's not that you don't like Cam
41:52
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, but there's just a price you're willing to pay.
41:55
Speaker 1: And and I like Cam a lot. But here's the reality, guys,
41:59
Speaker 1: he's had one above average year this year. He was
42:03
Speaker 1: not he was not good last year after an a
42:04
Speaker 1: c L. That can be in fine coming off an
42:07
Speaker 1: a c L. By the way, it was a year
42:08
Speaker 1: total of one year to rehab. His second year before
42:12
Speaker 1: he hurt the a c L, he was not good.
42:14
Speaker 1: He was bad. His rookie year he was Okay, you
42:18
Speaker 1: give him above average two good because he's a rookie.
42:21
Speaker 1: I mean you have to look at the body of work,
42:24
Speaker 1: not based on what you think he can do, because
42:26
Speaker 1: I think Cam is that good athlete. I think he's big,
42:28
Speaker 1: long top like him like as an individual, but you
42:32
Speaker 1: have to look at the body of working. You have
42:34
Speaker 1: to look what he's done on the field. And that's
42:37
Speaker 1: where where when a player's best year is his is
42:40
Speaker 1: his contract year. And it's still not superstar level. It's
42:44
Speaker 1: not like except exceptional boy. You gotta take a pause.
42:47
Speaker 1: You have to take a long pause and say, Okay,
42:51
Speaker 1: what are we getting? How much of it are our
42:52
Speaker 1: cap how much do we want of our cap allocation?
42:55
Speaker 1: Do we want to dedicate to that guy? Big question
42:59
Speaker 1: marks ahead. We'll see what the new regime has in
43:03
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43:06
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46:52
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46:56
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, you know, I've always approaches game
47:01
Speaker 1: the same way I've approached it in an approach of hey,
47:04
Speaker 1: doing the best. I think that. Um, you know, obviously,
47:08
Speaker 1: you know, they'll they'll be changed. I don't I don't know,
47:11
Speaker 1: not informed of anything anything like that, so you know,
47:14
Speaker 1: but obviously there's gonna be a lot of change that's
47:17
Speaker 1: going on, and um, but my whole focus will trying
47:21
Speaker 1: to get this win. You know, I don't know how
47:23
Speaker 1: I'll feel after the game, you know what saying, Mike, Honestly,
47:26
Speaker 1: I mean after the game, I might look at it differently,
47:29
Speaker 1: But right now I'm putting everything into trying to trying
47:31
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47:44
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47:46
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lackerman, and Tony Vasselly, Tony,
47:51
Speaker 1: I must say you look fired up for the new year.
47:54
Speaker 1: You are are a big ball of energy today. What
47:58
Speaker 1: are you talking about? I'm bringing I'm bringing this, I'm
48:00
Speaker 1: bringing my fastball. JP. Really is this okay? Well, I
48:05
Speaker 1: mean listen, what else you want? I mean, I'm you know,
48:07
Speaker 1: it's uh fourteen game losing streak, we're talking about free agency. Uh,
48:11
Speaker 1: that's the last game of the year. We're hoping against
48:14
Speaker 1: all hope of a victory. In an upset UM, he
48:17
Speaker 1: started Doug Brown talking about liking to hug and everything else,
48:20
Speaker 1: and he because he's being asked about his future, which is,
48:23
Speaker 1: you know, not a great conversation when you're one in fourteen.
48:26
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean that's it. I mean,
48:29
Speaker 1: whoever asked that question? I mean it's like, what do
48:32
Speaker 1: you want to say? It was, by the way, not
48:35
Speaker 1: to name names, it was Mike Rocco. Let me come on, Mike,
48:38
Speaker 1: you know better than that. I mean, it's so it's tough,
48:40
Speaker 1: it's no fun, but it's it's New Year's Eve. JP.
48:43
Speaker 1: I'm jacked up. I'm I'm with you, guys. Um we
48:46
Speaker 1: got looking forward to the game. This weekend is coming
48:50
Speaker 1: and behind us, Like, what else you need? Man? I'm
48:54
Speaker 1: I'm bringing I'm bringing this stuff tonight and if anybody
48:57
Speaker 1: wants the calendar to turn to twenty one, it would
49:00
Speaker 1: be Tony Basse. I would think. Yeah, for a lot
49:03
Speaker 1: of the family. My family has been through a number
49:06
Speaker 1: of health issues, a number of health issues. Um. Continue,
49:11
Speaker 1: we're you know, a lot of a lot of things
49:12
Speaker 1: going on the old Basely clan. Um. I'm fat as hell, I've, I've, I've,
49:18
Speaker 1: I've dedicated myself. That is gonna be a better year,
49:22
Speaker 1: making some lifestyle changes. Um, We're gonna lose some weight
49:25
Speaker 1: and be healthy JP. Yeah, so I can't wait. I
49:29
Speaker 1: mean so, I don't know, go out strong, ton I
49:31
Speaker 1: thought that that much doubt about that, to be clear.
49:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I I for some odd reason, I believe you.
49:45
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be changing. The change is coming. There's
49:50
Speaker 1: changing coming to the Basel life. But the lifestyle Bassell
49:54
Speaker 1: hashtag just call it change. Big stuff coming. And we'll
49:59
Speaker 1: see if there's changes coming, uh Monday for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
50:04
Speaker 1: we're already looking for a new GM. Could there be
50:07
Speaker 1: complete changes in the coaching? Uh, you know front, We'll see.
50:11
Speaker 1: We'll wait and see what Shaw does. This is why
50:14
Speaker 1: it's such a strange week because there is a football
50:16
Speaker 1: game to prepare for. But then there's you know, there's
50:20
Speaker 1: the balance of maybe players and coaches, you know, putting
50:23
Speaker 1: their foot out in the parking lot to get out
50:25
Speaker 1: of here or being forced out of here. There's a lot,
50:27
Speaker 1: just a lot to maneuver through logs. J P I
50:31
Speaker 1: can I can tell you, you know, go back to
50:32
Speaker 1: that rookie season when Joe Walton was was the head coach.
50:36
Speaker 1: You've been you must have a beef with him, because
50:38
Speaker 1: that's like the fifth time you brought up Joe Walton today. Well,
50:41
Speaker 1: I'm bringing it up in the constant context that I
50:45
Speaker 1: remember the last game of the year that we had
50:48
Speaker 1: and that you know, it was such a miserable year,
50:51
Speaker 1: and uh I couldn't wait for it to end. And
50:54
Speaker 1: I literally I had my I had like the last
50:57
Speaker 1: game of the year was on a Sunday, I want
50:58
Speaker 1: to say Fiday. For the most part, I spent packing
51:02
Speaker 1: up all of my stuff, so that literally when we
51:05
Speaker 1: had the last meeting, which was the day after the
51:08
Speaker 1: last game on Monday, I didn't even have to go
51:11
Speaker 1: back to the house that I rented to load my truck.
51:13
Speaker 1: My truck would be loaded up. I couldn't I couldn't
51:16
Speaker 1: wait for that, for that season to end and to
51:20
Speaker 1: and to move on and to try to find a
51:22
Speaker 1: better way of doing things in my second year, because
51:25
Speaker 1: you know, look, your first year in the National Football
51:27
Speaker 1: League is a grime and it's an eye opener. I
51:30
Speaker 1: can I can tell you that. I must say that's
51:32
Speaker 1: partly probably part of the reason why you guys lost
51:34
Speaker 1: thirty seven to nothing in the final week of the season.
51:37
Speaker 1: But well, I gotta say that, unfortunately I got hurt
51:41
Speaker 1: in that last Okay, that's what it was. This is
51:45
Speaker 1: this is a true story, true story. Okay. I I
51:48
Speaker 1: got an ankle which uh. I had an ankle issue
51:51
Speaker 1: in high school one time. It was nothing big, you know,
51:54
Speaker 1: got recovered from it and came back and played and
51:57
Speaker 1: it never had an ankle injury or anything in college.
51:59
Speaker 1: And last game in my rookie year, I got an
52:01
Speaker 1: ankle injury. And Tony will appreciate this. I'm so I
52:04
Speaker 1: got sent the locker room. They said, look, you're done,
52:06
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't play. I'm like, all right, So
52:08
Speaker 1: what do I do. They're like, well, just go locker room,
52:10
Speaker 1: take a shower. So you're all right, really, So I
52:16
Speaker 1: go to the locker room and and before I go
52:18
Speaker 1: to the shower, I'm in there at the urinal you know,
52:20
Speaker 1: you got you know, twenty of them lined up on
52:22
Speaker 1: the wall for you know, your home locker room. And
52:25
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm taking a pee, and all
52:28
Speaker 1: of a sudden, guy walks up to the urinal, you know,
52:31
Speaker 1: not right next to me, but fairly close to me.
52:33
Speaker 1: And I turned and look and it's it's Leon Hess
52:37
Speaker 1: and he's he's the owner of the jet at that time,
52:40
Speaker 1: you know, Hess whole company. And uh, he turns and
52:44
Speaker 1: he looks at me, and he goes, he goes, Jeff,
52:47
Speaker 1: he goes tough season and tough season and not a
52:50
Speaker 1: whole lot of good things happening. And I said, yes, Sir,
52:53
Speaker 1: I said, uh, definitely, some things need to change for
52:56
Speaker 1: us to be better. And he says, changes coming, young man,
53:00
Speaker 1: Change is coming. And that was one of my moments,
53:04
Speaker 1: first time I ever really dealing with the ownership. You know,
53:06
Speaker 1: I never really had a very long conversation with Leon
53:09
Speaker 1: Hess at all, and and uh, but it was one
53:11
Speaker 1: of the things that you just remember forever. You know,
53:13
Speaker 1: you're a rookie player, and all of a sudden you
53:15
Speaker 1: get to have a short conversation at a urinal with
53:19
Speaker 1: the owner of the football team of Crazy Jeff. Jeff
53:23
Speaker 1: was just thankful it wasn't too serious of an ankle injury.
53:26
Speaker 1: Was probably one of those like little sprains that can't
53:29
Speaker 1: play that day, but don't have to be back for
53:31
Speaker 1: astins and treatment. You can go out, you can go exactly.
53:37
Speaker 1: Are those are the way to do them? So? Um,
53:39
Speaker 1: obviously a strange week, but an opportunity that the Colts
53:43
Speaker 1: need this game, Tony. They have to win. They need
53:45
Speaker 1: some help as well, and it's their own fault because
53:48
Speaker 1: they had a big lead against Pittsburgh last week and
53:50
Speaker 1: let it slip away and they lost the game. They
53:53
Speaker 1: didn't punt against the Jaguars in Week one. A couple
53:55
Speaker 1: of other losses in there too that they could point to,
53:58
Speaker 1: but those are two big ones that stay it out
54:00
Speaker 1: right now for Indianapolis. Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean,
54:03
Speaker 1: this Colts team needs a lot of help. Um. They
54:05
Speaker 1: need to you know, they need to win. They need
54:08
Speaker 1: to you know, in the Browns or the Ravens or
54:12
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. One of those three teams will lose a
54:14
Speaker 1: game and uh, you know, and at ten and five
54:17
Speaker 1: they're sitting there going you know, we're gonna could be
54:20
Speaker 1: eleven and five and going home. And I definitely think
54:22
Speaker 1: they'll be looking back at that Jaguar game. You know,
54:26
Speaker 1: if they win this, if they win Sunday, the Jaguars
54:29
Speaker 1: will be the only win that that you know against
54:31
Speaker 1: the Colts. Um if they if they can't win, and
54:34
Speaker 1: the Jags can find a way to put an upset victory,
54:38
Speaker 1: culture going home. So overall, I got it if you're
54:41
Speaker 1: a Colts fan based on what they did in the offseason,
54:44
Speaker 1: spent the money in the force, Buckner on the defense,
54:46
Speaker 1: and bring Philip Rivers in. I mean, I think there
54:48
Speaker 1: was expect I mean, I know they're high expectations. You
54:51
Speaker 1: expect to be in the playoffs. They somehow win or
54:54
Speaker 1: lose on Sunday, end up not in the playoffs, are
54:57
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty disappointed. And it will be. It will be.
54:59
Speaker 1: I think counting is a disappointing season. Um, so you
55:02
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get their best. You know they're gonna
55:03
Speaker 1: be focused. You know they're gonna be coming out and
55:05
Speaker 1: from snap one, uh, ready to play. So you gotta
55:10
Speaker 1: match it. If you're in the Jaguars, you're you're a
55:12
Speaker 1: team that's probably a lot of guys doing Jeff to
55:15
Speaker 1: packing up this week, Reynolds head home, get ready to
55:18
Speaker 1: go um as soon as that Monday meetings are over,
55:21
Speaker 1: and you've got to find a way to focus. You
55:22
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to go out there, give great
55:24
Speaker 1: effort and try to steal victory somehow. Yeah, the the
55:29
Speaker 1: official uh Tony, you mentioned three teams. If any of
55:34
Speaker 1: these four teams lose and the Colts win, they're in.
55:38
Speaker 1: So it's Miami. If Miami loses and they play at Buffalo.
55:42
Speaker 1: If Baltimore loses, they play at Cincinnati. If Cleveland loses
55:47
Speaker 1: and they're at home against Pittsburgh, which Pittsburgh is resting
55:50
Speaker 1: their team, or if Tennessee loses in there at Houston.
55:53
Speaker 1: Any of those four teams lose and the Colts win,
55:57
Speaker 1: then they're in. So I can't imagine one of those
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Speaker 1: things is not happening for the Cults, right. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it feels like it's it's adding up, at least on paper,
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Speaker 1: but you never know. A week seventeen, weird things can happen.
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Speaker 1: In this last week when all the games were being
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Speaker 1: played at the same time, and we saw that even
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Speaker 1: remember back in seventeen the Bills got in on like
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Speaker 1: a random play and another game very late after we
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Speaker 1: had It's one of those like it's a strange, strange
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Speaker 1: week sometimes and teams can step up and play big
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Speaker 1: in a big moment there late in the season, so
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Speaker 1: a chance to direct the Colts playoff hopes. And then
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Speaker 1: the last week of this season for the Jacksonville Jaguar
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Speaker 1: snapped this fourteen game losing skid. I know Doug maroone,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from him in just a couple of minutes, Tony.
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Speaker 1: But that's what it's about. Snapped this kid. Get a
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Speaker 1: good taste before the end of this season. Somehow. What
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Speaker 1: a long season. It's been fourteen weeks, I mean opening
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Speaker 1: week and they got a victory and that I think
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Speaker 1: we were all surprised about. Um, we really stole a
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Speaker 1: game where you didn't force a punt, we got some
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Speaker 1: turnovers and did a good up and then they play
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Speaker 1: in the Titans close and you're thinking, Okay, maybe they
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Speaker 1: got something going here, but still again gave a lot
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Speaker 1: of points. But since then it has been one loss
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Speaker 1: after another loss after another loss. Some close games in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the season there, but the last three
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Speaker 1: weeks have been getting blown out. So I cannot imagine
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Speaker 1: the wear and tearrible physically and mentally on this team
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Speaker 1: and coaching staff. I mean, it's a grind. It is
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Speaker 1: so hard. Um. The NFL season is hard enough all
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Speaker 1: by itself, but and that's what you're winning, um. And
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Speaker 1: and when you it's lost after loss, the grind is unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: And so these guys are exhausted and hopefully come out
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Speaker 1: and find a way to give one last great effort.
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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, Happy New Year. We will catch up
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Speaker 1: with you this weekend for the pregame show. Yeah, looking
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Speaker 1: forward to j P. It's gonna be a good time. Jeff,
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year's you, your family, UH give your lovely
57:54
Speaker 1: wife Tara a big happy New Year's hug, and UH
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys both. Good friendship. Thanks for all the
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Speaker 1: support this year. And let's get let's get ready for
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Speaker 1: a great Let's get this damn thing behind us and
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Speaker 1: have a great one next year. Let's flip that calendar
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Speaker 1: in just a few hours from now. Tony Boselli out
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Speaker 1: of here, are thanks prior to the Jaguars Left tackle
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Speaker 1: and Jeff Flagerman with us just one final moment here.
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Speaker 1: We have the Doug Moron Show coming up in just
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Speaker 1: a few minutes on the Jaguars Radio Network. Our last
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Speaker 1: chance in the regular season to visit with head coach
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Speaker 1: Doug Marone and we'll get his thoughts on trying to
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Speaker 1: snap that losing skid and get a positive taste in
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Speaker 1: week seventeen. And I'm looking forward to the conversation with
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Speaker 1: Doug tonight. Lugs. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, look, I want to
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Speaker 1: find out JP didn't haven't even asked you what you
58:47
Speaker 1: got for Christmas. I want to find out what Doug
58:50
Speaker 1: got for Christmas. I mean it's uh, it's the holiday season, man,
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Speaker 1: A little little Christmas spirit, a little little New Year
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Speaker 1: spirit going on here. Yeah. Um, So we'll get to
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Speaker 1: that when we come back. We'll be back in a
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Speaker 1: moment on the Jaguars Radio Network. The Doug Morone Show
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Speaker 1: is right around the corner. Our thanks to Tony Baselli,
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Speaker 1: Scott Kustner stepping in tonight, Brent Reber, and our entire crew.
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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you next time. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy hour on the Jaguars Digital Network,