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- 0:23My friends, welcome to day three of history class, Thanksgiving style.
- 0:30We are in the throes of diving into to Thanksgiving week through history.
- 0:37We really feel like it's important to look at Thanksgiving through the lens of history.
- 0:44I think that should be part of it, especially in a day and age when our history and the actual historical account is under assault so so badly, under such a deep assault to be rewritten, to be changed, to be forgotten, to be removed from our memory.
- 1:03Well, we're not going to let it happen.
- 1:06We're not going to let the actual historical record be removed from our memory.
- 1:12I mean, I said the other day in devotion to the kids.
- 1:16Uh, I said, what um, I mean, historically, how important is Thanksgiving?
- 1:21And of course, I got the answer I was looking for.
- 1:24I got the answer I was looking for, that they, you know, they understand the students here at Waterbrook understand that the pilgrims were fleeing to a location where they could they could live and flourish in civil and religious liberty.
- 1:38That that was the point.
- 1:40That was the point of the mission.
- 1:42That's the point of the objective, and here we are in this experiment.
- 1:47400 years later, after the pilgrims, after Jamestown, after the first colonies arrived 400 years later, we're we're out here still living this experiment.
- 1:59And you know, we're hanging in there.
- 2:02I mean, we're under assault.
- 2:04Civil and religious liberty isn't, it's under assault.
- 2:07We'd be fools to say it wasn't, but we're hanging in there, and we're talking about it.
- 2:12We have to talk about it in order to uh be reminded of it.
- 2:18We have to talk about it.
- 2:19So our kids will know.
- 2:21So we'll pass it down to them.
- 2:23As Reagan said, look, it's not, it's not in the bloodline.
- 2:26Freedom is not passed down in the bloodline.
- 2:30We have to actively pass it down.
- 2:32And so that's what we're doing here.
- 2:34That's the point this week.
- 2:35That's the point of history class, is that we might actively pass down freedom and liberty to our posterity.
- 2:43All right, so let's dive back into it.
- 2:45Yesterday we kind of left off here at the um the Spanish armada.
- 2:51Philip was fed up with Elizabeth.
- 2:55Philip is the king of Spain, Elizabeth's the queen of England.
- 2:58She said no to his hand in marriage.
- 3:01He's like, Look, I'm gonna have England one way or another, and he sends the Spanish armada.
- 3:05And by the grace of God and a few storms, the 130 vessel armada was wiped out, destroyed.
- 3:15They lost, they lost.
- 3:18It was unexpected, and and Spain is no longer the superpower.
- 3:23This one act, this one battle with with the loss of the armada, Spain is no longer the superpower, and things change.
- 3:31The whole landscape changes.
- 3:34Now, we we kind of ended the day yesterday thinking this thought that what if Spain wins?
- 3:40What if the armada captures defeats England?
- 3:45What if Philip is crowned king?
- 3:48What if England becomes Catholic again?
- 3:51Then North America looks a lot different.
- 3:55Because North America just becomes an extension of South America, which was essentially new Spain, and the Catholicism had kind of you know worked its way, that there would not have been religious liberty.
- 4:09There wouldn't have been because there would not have been a new world to come to.
- 4:14Because no matter if you were Protestant or if you were Catholic, it didn't really matter at this point.
- 4:22Religious liberty didn't exist.
- 4:24We've seen this.
- 4:25We watched it, we've watched it with Charles, we've watched it with Philip, we watched it with Bloody Mary in terms of the Catholic side of things, and then we've watched it with King Henry, we've watched it with Elizabeth and the Protestant side of things.
- 4:44Religious liberty would would things would look differently had had Spain been victorious.
- 4:51Spain was not victorious by the grace of God.
- 4:54And so Elizabeth uh is victorious.
- 4:58England starts to become a superpower, as it were.
- 5:03I mean, and relatively speaking, England becomes now the dominant force.
- 5:08Holland is starting to take more of a of a global role.
- 5:13Well, with England taking more of a of a role, uh, Elizabeth continued down her road uh with the act of uniformity, making it making it law that you had to attend the the Anglican church once a week.
- 5:30And if you didn't, you were fined or imprisoned, or you were executed.
- 5:37You were murdered, perhaps burned at the stake, perhaps you lost your head.
- 5:41I mean, there was a variety of ways they could go about it.
- 5:451593, we're getting towards the end of Elizabeth's reign here.
- 5:49She's got about a decade left before she passes.
- 5:53Uh Puritan separatists.
- 5:55So there was there was this group of people that began to rise up and they referred to themselves and were referred by others as Puritans because they wanted to purify the Church of England.
- 6:07They had an English Bible.
- 6:09They could read it, and they could juxtapose it to how the Church of England was acting.
- 6:15And they came to a conclusion that the Church of England is not following the Bible.
- 6:21We need to purify it.
- 6:22So they were they were referred to as as Puritans.
- 6:26There was another group that uh referred to themselves as separatists because they realized there's no purifying this church.
- 6:36The queen rules it with an iron fist.
- 6:39We're gonna separate ourselves from it.
- 6:42We're not gonna go to their Anglican services.
- 6:45We're not.
- 6:46We're gonna do our own thing.
- 6:48Uh, this group was known as as separatists.
- 6:51So there were two Puritan separatists that were well known.
- 6:56Henry Barrow and John Greenwood.
- 6:59And they were found guilty of violating the act of uniformity, and they were executed.
- 7:05The Queen, Victoria, I'm sorry, Elizabeth.
- 7:09Queen Elizabeth had them executed.
- 7:13Um, because they violated the act of uniformity.
- 7:16Elizabeth also had many Catholics executed.
- 7:19They were called Papists because they believed in the authority of the Pope, and they were found guilty of violating the act.
- 7:26Many priests were executed, many Catholic priests.
- 7:30Uh, she was really no different than Bloody Mary.
- 7:33She just didn't reach the numbers.
- 7:36She didn't execute the number of people that bloody Mary executed.
- 7:40And Bloody Mary did it in a short period of time.
- 7:43Like she had a five-year window, and she was just going nuts on people.
- 7:47Elizabeth is spreading it out, but nonetheless, she's she's following the same model.
- 7:56So these groups that were separatists, these people that were separatists.
- 8:01Uh, they were called this because they they had to meet in secret.
- 8:04They had to meet by night, by candlelight.
- 8:08They met in barns, they met in basements.
- 8:10I mean, it's no different than what you see today in the illegal house churches in China and North Korea and other places.
- 8:19It's really no different.
- 8:21Um, you know, people have to to hide.
- 8:24They they have to, they have to, in many places, they have to hide if they truly want to worship.
- 8:32Well, here in in America, we are living under the liberties founded by the pilgrims.
- 8:39And this is this is really why we celebrate this holiday.
- 8:43It's it's a group of people that came over in search of civil and religious liberty, and here we are today.
- 8:50We are enjoying the fruits of their labor.
- 8:53And many people across the globe do not have the ability to enjoy these fruits.
- 9:02But we do.
- 9:03All right.
- 9:04So Elizabeth, as I said, she her time is coming to a close.
- 9:09Uh, she continued the tyranny that her father continued uh in much the same fashion.
- 9:18But when she finally dies, March 24th, 1603, the son of Mary, Queen of Scots, who Elizabeth had executed, by the way.
- 9:28Uh, King James the Sixth of Scotland is he's the heir.
- 9:34He's what's he's what's left.
- 9:37And he becomes king of England, which then unites England, Ireland, Wales, and Scotland.
- 9:42King James the First is what he calls himself.
- 9:46He was King James the Sixth of Scotland.
- 9:49When he becomes King of England, he's now King James the First, because he is the first king to really unite the entire kingdom.
- 10:00King James, though, would continue down this line of religious tyranny.
- 10:07Even though he was tutored by Scottish uh Presbyterians, he did not uh he did not carry their concept of of limited government into his rule.
- 10:21Instead, he embraced this idea of the divine right of kings.
- 10:25Matter of fact, it was King James, which by the way, we get our Bible, the King James Bible, it's named and in his honor.
- 10:34Um this is what he declared in terms of what he believed to be the divine right of kings.
- 10:39He said, Kings are God's lieutenants upon earth, they sit upon God's throne.
- 10:45The king is overlord of the whole land, master over every person, having power over the life and death of everyone.
- 10:55That's that's what that's what King James believed.
- 10:59He believed that uh he alone held um the power of of life and death over literally every single person.
- 11:11And he carried on what Elizabeth was was doing, even though you know his cousin had his mom executed.
- 11:20He carried on what his cousin was doing in terms of religious tyranny.
- 11:25When he takes the throne, separatists continue to be punished.
- 11:30They're put in stocks, they're whipped, they're in prison.
- 11:34They were even branded as heretics, branded, not verbally branded, mind you.
- 11:40No, physically branded, physically, you know, like a like a steer, like a bull, branded on the forehead with a hot iron.
- 11:52This this was King James.
- 11:55Uh, and he was a tyrant.
- 11:58He wasn't an absolute tyrant.
- 12:00So this is this is the world now that the pilgrims are in.
- 12:05Okay, this is this is their world.
- 12:07They grew up, they're born into the reign of Elizabeth.
- 12:12They grow up in in her tyranny.
- 12:14James is now taken over.
- 12:17And they're they're beginning to look for a way out.
- 12:22One of the separatists, and this is where it gets exciting for us.
- 12:25This is, I mean, day three, day three of this history class is always enjoyable, because now we're getting into the meat and the the potatoes of it all.
- 12:36So here we are.
- 12:37It's right around 1606.
- 12:39Okay.
- 12:40James has been on the on the throne for a few years.
- 12:43And one of the separatist leaders in England is a man by the name of William Brewster.
- 12:48And he begins to arrange here in the early 1600s, right around 1606, begins to arrange for for a small pilgrim congregation to to meet privately in secret at a place called Scrooby Manor House, not Scooby, Scrooby, screwby with an R.
- 13:10Richard Clifton is their pastor.
- 13:13John Robinson is the teacher, and William Brewster is the presiding elder.
- 13:19He's kind of organizing this whole thing.
- 13:22Brewster was fined the equivalent of thousands of dollars for being in non-compliance with the church of England.
- 13:32Brewster at the time held a very prestigious postmaster position.
- 13:36If you're a postmaster in England, you hold a very prestigious position.
- 13:41And uh Brewster is forced to resign from this very prestigious position because of the fact that he's found in violation of the Uniformity Act.
- 13:53He sees sneaking people around and under the cover of darkness, under the cover of night and the secrecy of barns and basements.
- 14:02Brewster's organizing these house meetings.
- 14:05How dare he?
- 14:06How dare these people not attend the Anglican church once a week?
- 14:11They're violating the Uniformity Act.
- 14:13So he's finding the equivalent of thousands of dollars.
- 14:17He's forced to uh resign from his position.
- 14:21And his group is now beginning to consider and make plans that they've got to flee to Amsterdam.
- 14:29They've they've got to that they've got to make the leap.
- 14:32They've got to go to Amsterdam.
- 14:35In his writing of Plymouth Plantation, William Bradford writes about all of this, all of this history in of Plymouth Plantation.
- 14:44We have it, we have the writing.
- 14:46We and we're going to it today.
- 14:49Because we believe here in using original source documents.
- 14:54And I think every history teacher in the country should be utilizing original source documents.
- 15:00Especially, listen, I'm going to say this real quick.
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- 16:37Um but I I encourage you, I implore you, and I know homeschool moms and dads, they do this here at Waterbrook.
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- 16:57And as part of that, we choose to do and use original source documents.
- 17:03Um so we're gonna dive into of Plymouth Plantation on the other side of this break.
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- 23:30This is a year.
- 23:32A year prior to 1607.
- 23:35What happened in 1607?
- 23:36You know what happened in 1607.
- 23:39Robert Hunt, the Reverend took a group of citizens from England up the James River, which they named James River in the New World.
- 23:50They named it after King James.
- 23:53May 13th, 1607, they're sailing up the James River, and they established Jamestown, of course, again named after King James, the first permanent English settlement in the New World, 1707.
- 24:07You needed permission to leave England, by the way.
- 24:10You just couldn't leave on your own.
- 24:13I mean, people were trying to escape England.
- 24:16This is what William Brewster is involved in.
- 24:20He is here a part of a group, and they're they're planning their escape.
- 24:24They're about to plan their flight from England.
- 24:28But a year later, there's a group who uh on board and and under the the um, I guess auspice of the Virginia Company, named after the Virgin Queen herself.
- 24:43They are granted a charter, and they leave England.
- 24:46Now they land, and I and I think this is uh an important note to make, and we're gonna make it here, and we're gonna refer back to it.
- 24:55But the Church of England is formally and officially established as the official denomination in Virginia in 1606.
- 25:05That's an important point.
- 25:07The Anglican Church, the Church of England, is the official denomination at Jamestown, 1606.
- 25:16It's the official denomination in Virginia all the way up to 1786, by the way.
- 25:22Right up till the signing of the Constitution.
- 25:24This is important.
- 25:26This is an important note.
- 25:28Because Brewster and company over here are trying to flee this very thing.
- 25:36They're trying to flee this very thing.
- 25:37And so we're gonna we're gonna come back to this point as we get closer to the pilgrim landing.
- 25:42It's an important point.
- 25:44All right, but here I want to I want to go to original documents.
- 25:50William Bradford is the is the the governor, the pilgrim governor.
- 25:56And he's making notes about William Brewster and those who lived uh and what and what uh Bradford referred to, those who lived in the country till the Lord revealed himself further to him.
- 26:11Talking about Brewster.
- 26:13He lives in England until the Lord revered him, referred himself, I'm sorry, revealed himself further to Brewster.
- 26:22Okay, here's what Bradford said.
- 26:24In the end, the tyranny of the bishops against godly preachers and people, and silencing the former and persecuting the latter.
- 26:34Okay, silencing the preachers, getting them to zip it, and persecuting the people, the parishioners.
- 26:41It was both things happening simultaneously.
- 26:45In the end, this silencing of the former and persecuting the latter caused him, referring to Brewster, and many more to look further into things, and to realize the unlawfulness of their episcopal callings, and to feel the burden of their many anti-Christian corruptions, which both he and they endeavored to throw off.
- 27:10In other words, the more Brewster looked into this thing, the more he looked into what Bradford called the their episcopal calling, then uh the more he felt the burden of the anti-Christian corruption within the church, anti-Christian corruption.
- 27:30Can you believe the church is anti-Christ?
- 27:33Well, that's what Bradford is saying here.
- 27:36He's saying that Brewster and the gang felt like there was anti-Christian corruption entrenched in the church.
- 27:44And indeed, there was.
- 27:48Um Bradford continued by referring to Brewster as the leader of those who were captured at Boston and Lincolnshire, suffering the greatest loss, and was one of the seven who were kept longest in prison and afterwards bound over to the authorities.
- 28:07All right, so let's talk about what happened in Boston and Lincolnshire.
- 28:13Let's go there.
- 28:14So it was illegal to leave England without permission.
- 28:17Okay.
- 28:18Uh, on their first attempt in 1607.
- 28:21We're talking about Brewster and the gang.
- 28:24On their first attempt in 1607, the same year that Robert Hunt takes a group of citizens under the auspice of the Virginia Company to find Jamestown.
- 28:36Brewster and the gang uh are arrested at Scotia Creek.
- 28:41And their first attempt to leave.
- 28:44On their second attempt to leave a year later, they successfully left uh and arrived in in Holland.
- 28:51But let's let's talk about this first attempt first, all right.
- 28:57Um again, this is Bradford writing.
- 29:06He says, but after these things, they could not long continue in any peaceable condition, but were hunted and persecuted on every side.
- 29:15So as their former afflictions were but as flea bitings in comparison of these, which now came upon them.
- 29:24For some were taken and clapped up in prison.
- 29:28Others, hang on, I don't want to lose my place here.
- 29:32Um for some were taken and clapped up in prison.
- 29:36Others had their houses beset and watched night and day, and hardly escaped their hands.
- 29:43And most were were fained to fly and leave their houses and habitations and the means of their livelihood.
- 29:51Then Bradford explains how some pilgrims bought passage on a ship to escape to Holland.
- 29:59But right.
- 30:00Before the ship was to depart, the that the captain betrayed them.
- 30:06And here's what Bradford said.
- 30:09There was a large company of them purposed to get passage at Boston and Lincolnshire.
- 30:15For that end, they had hired a ship wholly to themselves and made arrangement with the master to be ready at a certain date.
- 30:22The master would be the captain.
- 30:24So they made arrangements with the captain to be ready at a certain day and take them and their goods in at a convenient place where they accordingly would all attend in readiness.
- 30:35All right.
- 30:35So the captain was supposed to meet them somewhere, have all their goods with them, all their worldly possessions.
- 30:41They're going to meet at this location and they're going to board the ship, and the captain's going to take them to home.
- 30:47So after long waiting and large expenses, though he kept not day with them, yet he came at length and took them in the night.
- 30:56But when he had them and their goods aboard, he betrayed them, having beforehand plotted with the searchers and other officers, so to do, who took them and put them into open boats and they're rifled and ransacked to them, searching them to their shirts for money.
- 31:13Yea, even the women further than became modesty.
- 31:18And then carried them back into the town and made them a spectacle and wonder to the multitude, which came flocking on all sides to behold them, being thus first by the tax collector officers.
- 31:32There they were rifled and stripped of their money, their books, and much other goods.
- 31:36They were presented then to the magistrates and sent to inform the lords of the council of them.
- 31:44And so they were committed.
- 31:46Indeed, the magistrates used them uh courteously and showed them what favor they could, but could not deliver them till order came from the council table.
- 31:58Couldn't release them.
- 31:59The magistrates held them, although they were pleasant to them.
- 32:01They held them.
- 32:03But the issue was that after a month's imprisonment, the greatest part was dismissed, held them for a month.
- 32:10And granted, they they apparently they treated them well after they rifled through their things and took their things.
- 32:16And after the captain took their money, they didn't get their money back.
- 32:20Um dirty rotten scoundrel.
- 32:24But after a month, the greatest part were dismissed and sent to the places from which they came.
- 32:31But seven of the principal were still kept in prison and bound over to the justice of the peace.
- 32:37And one of the seven, of course, is indeed William Brewster.
- 32:42Then Bradford gives the account of the pilgrims who arranged for a Dutch ship to meet them at a secluded shoreline.
- 32:51The next spring, there was another attempt made by some of these and others to get over to another place.
- 32:58So the first attempt took place in 1607.
- 33:01Now we're rolling around to 1608.
- 33:04They're making a second attempt.
- 33:07And William Bradford is telling us about it here in his writing.
- 33:13He says, and so fell out that they, light of a Dutchman at Hall, having a ship of his own belonging to Zealand.
- 33:22They made agreement with him and acquainted him with their condition, hoping to find more faithfulness in him than in the former of their own nation.
- 33:31So could because previously they had hired an English captain and he betrayed them.
- 33:38Well, now they find a Dutchman.
- 33:40And the Dutchman has a ship of his own belonging at Zealand.
- 33:45And so they they hired the Dutchman, thinking, okay, maybe he'll be more faithful than our own countrymen.
- 33:51The Dutchman bade them not fear, for he would do well enough.
- 33:55He was by appointment to take them in between Grimsby and Hall, where was a large seashore a good way distant from any town.
- 34:06Unfortunately, the pilgrims arrived a day early.
- 34:09And while so while they're waiting around for the boat, uh, I'm sorry, in a boat.
- 34:17They're kind of waiting at the bank in a boat, waiting for the Dutchman to show up.
- 34:22The women and the children all become sick.
- 34:25And so they have to, you know, they're they have to get off and they have to, they have to get to ground.
- 34:30So here's what Bradford writes.
- 34:32He says, now against the prefix time.
- 34:35The women and children with the goods were sent to the place in a small boat, which they had hired for that end.
- 34:42And the men were to meet them by land, but it so fell out that they were there a day before the ship came, and the sea being rough and the women very sick, prevailed with the seamen to pull into a creek where they lay on the ground at low water.
- 34:59So as the men are storing their family belongings on board the ship, an armed mob suddenly crests the hill.
- 35:08And despite their pleadings, the the Dutchman, that the Dutch captain pulled anchor and sailed away, leaving the women and the children on land to be captured by the mob who was coming after them.
- 35:21Okay, here's what Bradford says.
- 35:23The next morning the ship came.
- 35:26Shipmaster, in this case is the Dutchman, perceiving how the matter was, sent his boat to be getting the men aboard whom he saw ready, walking about the shore.
- 35:37But after the first boat full was got aboard, and she was ready to go for more.
- 35:42The shipmaster espied a great company, both horse and foot with weapons for the country was raised to take them.
- 35:50The Dutchman, seeing that, swore his country's oath, and having the wind fair, weighed his anchor, hoisted sails, and sailed away.
- 36:00The poor men, which were got aboard, were in great distress for their wives and children, which they saw thus to be taken, and were left destitute of their help.
- 36:10It drew tears from their eyes, and anything they had they could have given to have been ashore again, but all in vain.
- 36:17There was no remedy.
- 36:19They must thus sadly part, and afterward endured a fearful storm at sea, being 14 days or more before they arrived at their port.
- 36:29And seven wereof they never saw sun, moon, nor stars, and were driven near the coast of Norway.
- 36:36The mariners themselves, often despairing of life, with shrieks and cries, sinking without recovery.
- 36:44But when man's hope and help wholly failed, the Lord's power and mercy appeared in their recovery.
- 36:50For the ship rose again and gave the mariners courage again to manage her, and in the end brought them to their desired haven.
- 36:59So here we are, these these people.
- 37:02All they want to do is go to a country where they can worship God according to their own conscience, where they can worship God according to their own beliefs.
- 37:14They can't do it in England, they have to attend the Anglican church.
- 37:18If they don't, they're fined, they're imprisoned.
- 37:21Some of them are even put to death.
- 37:24And when they try to escape, they're told you can't.
- 37:26Sorry, you can't leave the island.
- 37:28I mean, this is this is modern-day North Korea.
- 37:33You're not allowed to leave.
- 37:35And if you try to leave your gun down, this is what they're experiencing.
- 37:40And when they hire a ship of their own, their own country, their own countrymen at captain, he betrays them, takes their money, turns them over to the authorities.
- 37:50And then when they hire a flying Dutchman, he panics.
- 37:54And he sees the mob coming on the shore, and he leaves.
- 37:59He's got the men on board.
- 38:00He leaves the women and the children.
- 38:03So what are these guys to do?
- 38:05What in the world are they to do?
- 38:07Now they're just sailing over the ocean.
- 38:09I mean, yeah, they've got their stuff.
- 38:12I mean, they're loading the ship with their stuff, but they don't have their wives and their children.
- 38:16They don't have their family.
- 38:19These men are now being escorted across the ocean, across the sea, without their families.
- 38:26Talk about, talk about destitute.
- 38:29Talk about going through it.
- 38:32I mean, these people are going through it.
- 38:34It is an unfortunate situation.
- 38:37And they're out here doing their best, trying to endure it.
- 38:41All right.
- 38:42Uh, we're coming up against the break here.
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- 41:39As the story then continues, the men, the pilgrim men are on their way to Holland, and they don't have their families.
- 41:50This is this is where we're at.
- 41:51Okay, this is their second attempt at escaping the island.
- 41:56Their first attempt, you know the deal.
- 41:59The the ship captain betrays them, and they end up uh you know, spending at least a month in prison.
- 42:09Some of them spent longer.
- 42:11So their second attempt.
- 42:13Now they've got a Dutchman who panics and takes off.
- 42:17And so the women are left behind.
- 42:18Here's what Bradford says in his in his writings that the women and children left in England were sent from one court to another for nearly two years until a judge finally told them to go home.
- 42:35When they informed the judge that they had sold their homes, they had nothing.
- 42:39They had been bouncing around from prison to prison for two years.
- 42:43Women and children, by the way.
- 42:45The judge put them on a ship and sent them to Holland to be joyously reunited with their husbands.
- 42:52Finally, after two years, they have a judge here that takes pity on them, has mercy on them, and puts them on a ship.
- 43:01I don't know, probably at his own expense to get these people reunited with their families.
- 43:09Bradford continued, though in the meantime, the poor souls endured misery enough, and thus in the end, necessity forced away for them.
- 43:19Their cause became famous, he said, and occasioned many to look into the same.
- 43:25And their godly carriage and Christian behavior was such as left a deep impression in the minds of many.
- 43:34So here we are.
- 43:35People are beginning to realize other Englanders are beginning to see and hear about the story of these families.
- 43:46Women and children being carted from place to place from prison to prison just because they wanted to move to Holland.
- 43:55And the authorities would not let them leave the island.
- 43:58And so people are starting to look into the to the causation.
- 44:02Why do they want to leave so badly?
- 44:04And why are they willing to put up with this treatment?
- 44:09What do these people believe?
- 44:10What's their what's their impetus?
- 44:13And other Englanders began.
- 44:15Can I call them Englanders?
- 44:16Is that what we're calling it?
- 44:18Other English, maybe they're English, other Englishmen and women started to investigate.
- 44:25Bradford continues, and in the end, notwithstanding, all these storms of opposition, they all got over to Holland.
- 44:33Some at one time and some at another, some at one place and some at another, and they met together again according to their desires with no small rejoicing.
- 44:43So they finally finally make it to Holland.
- 44:49They have endured much and um and the families are reunited.
- 44:55I don't know how they got together.
- 44:56I don't know if they just landed and they said, hey, where are the English men who came without their wives and children?
- 45:09This reminds me of the ants who who lost their wives.
- 45:13I mean, it's the same thing.
- 45:15You seen our wives anywhere.
- 45:17So the women and children land.
- 45:19They find the men and they they end up settling in Leon, the city of Leiden.
- 45:25And this is where William Brewster begins teaching at the university, Leiden University.
- 45:33And Leiden is an interesting place.
- 45:35So there's a backstory here to Leiden that kind of gives these pilgrims some tradition.
- 45:47Kind of gives them some uh some context to celebrating.
- 45:56The backstory is this.
- 45:57So this is what 1608 when they're finally reunited.
- 46:03Maybe 1602.
- 46:06Well, if they were if they were moved around for two years, if they fled in 08, they're not reunited to 1610.
- 46:15Well, in 1572, so about I don't know, 40 years earlier.
- 46:21Uh, the the Spanish fleet, this was before the armada was wiped out in the storm.
- 46:30That the Spanish fleet goes to Holland to crush the reformation there because Holland is becoming extremely um how can I say it?
- 46:41The religious liberty in Holland is becoming profound, and it's becoming renowned.
- 46:48And people are like, hey, you want to worship God in whatever way, go to Holland.
- 46:53The religious liberty that's taking place in Holland is amazing.
- 46:56And so Spain is like, we can't have this.
- 46:59We can't have Holland reforming.
- 47:03We've got to keep them under Catholicism.
- 47:05So Spain unleashes a commander who they referred to as the Iron Duke.
- 47:10He's sent to Holland to essentially pillage and burn the countryside.
- 47:17And this is what happened from 1572 to 1576 for four years.
- 47:23It's what it's it's what history refers to as the Spanish Furies.
- 47:29Uh it's the beginning of this battle that Holland would engage in for eight years for their for their independence.
- 47:38The I'm sorry, not eight, eighty, eighty years, the eighty years war for independence that that Holland was under.
- 47:47The Iron Duke had a show note show no mercy mentality about him.
- 47:53He sacked, he decimated what he referred to as rebellious Dutch cities.
- 47:59Uh, specifically, I mean, there's a whole list of them here.
- 48:03But the citizens of Leiden knew if they surrendered to the Iron Duke, they'd be killed.
- 48:11They would be held up as an example to other cities who resisted, and they would be wiped out.
- 48:17And uh they refused to give in.
- 48:20They refused to surrender, even though half the city's population died of starvation essentially because of the siege that the Iron Duke put upon them.
- 48:31Uh, they resisted.
- 48:34And this resistance that they put out bolstered the the rest of the country.
- 48:40William the Orange.
- 48:42I'm sorry, William the Silent is the Prince of Orange.
- 48:46And he calls on Elizabeth here for aid, and she comes to his aid.
- 48:51And it was his decision to essentially break the dikes.
- 48:56Break the dikes at Leiden, allowing the seawater to flood the Spanish troops, wiped them out.
- 49:05And then he sent rescuers on flat boats to bring food to the starving citizens.
- 49:14And so in 17 and I'm sorry, in 1574, the Spanish siege of Leiden was broken.
- 49:22And to celebrate, William of Orange founded Leiden University.
- 49:27This is the university where Brewster is now teaching.
- 49:31And in founding Leiden University, the citizens also held an annual day of Thanksgiving.
- 49:40And here's where the pilgrims are.
- 49:42The men arrived here 1608, 1609-ish.
- 49:47The rest of their families are reunited with them.
- 49:51And then they begin to experience this annual fall Thanksgiving, commemorating the lifting of Spain's siege.
- 50:00On the city of Leiden.
- 50:03And it's this Thanksgiving then that would carry over when the pilgrims eventually land in the new world.
- 50:13And they would celebrate it.
- 50:16They would celebrate a Thanksgiving of their own.
- 50:19Only they would uh do it at the hands of the natives.
- 50:23So they're they are learning this culture.
- 50:29They're learning this celebratory feast.
- 50:33They're learning and understanding and experiencing a Thanksgiving feast.
- 50:37They end up being in in Holland for 12 years.
- 50:41And again, as I said, religious liberty is profound because it just isn't happening in other places.
- 50:51While there, they have this printing press.
- 50:54And they begin to make publications, pamphlets, promoting uh religious liberty, and really promoting things that the English monarchy despises, and they end up sending their their pamphlets, their contraband, as it were.
- 51:15They smuggle them back into England.
- 51:18So other citizens can read, other citizens can see.
- 51:21Because as I said, when when the moms and the families were bouncing around from prison to prison, courthouse to courthouse, other citizens in England begin to ask questions.
- 51:33Well, what are these people all about?
- 51:36What are they what do they believe in?
- 51:38What are they what's the cause here?
- 51:41And so now these pamphlets are making their way back to England because there's a market form.
- 51:46People are interested.
- 51:47People want people want to experience religious liberty, religious freedom.
- 51:55So the king, King James and his his ilk discover contraband being smuggled back into the island.
- 52:04And he's like, we got to put a stop to this.
- 52:06Where's it coming from?
- 52:07They trace it back to Holland.
- 52:09So he sends his spies into Holland to figure out where in the world this contraband is being created.
- 52:18Who who's the uh who's who's the creator of such evil?
- 52:24And of course, the spies trace it back to the pilgrims.
- 52:27They trace it back to Brewster and company.
- 52:30And instead of confiscating the press, I mean, the press is huge.
- 52:34It's a massive press.
- 52:35They're like, we're not taking the press, we're just gonna take the letters.
- 52:39And that's what they did.
- 52:41They stripped of the press of its lettering mechanism.
- 52:45So the pilgrims are left with this behemoth unit, this behemoth of a press, and no way to print, no way to create pamphlets.
- 52:54And this make note of this, because this comes back into the story.
- 53:00That this printing press plays a profound role yet in the lives of the pilgrims.
- 53:07So they're they're left with the press without any real means to be able to publish or create any of their tracks, any of their their pamphlets.
- 53:19So now they're like, what do we do?
- 53:20In the meantime, they realize that their young people, their children are beginning to assimilate into the Holland culture, and they don't like it.
- 53:29They they don't like where this is going.
- 53:31So they begin to reconsider where should they go from here.
- 53:37And they start making a plan.
- 53:38At first, they look at maybe going to um Guiana, they look at maybe going to South America.
- 53:46They're they're they're they're considering other places to get to.
- 53:51Finally, uh, after several years, their pastor, John Robinson, and their their leader, William Brewster, make a request to settle in Virginia.
- 54:03They send articles to the Council of England in 1618.
- 54:12And this was asking a lot.
- 54:13I mean, the fact that they are sending articles to go to uh Virginia, they want to go to Jamestown and put themselves under the Jamestown government.
- 54:26Now, remember, the the official denomination of Jamestown uh was the Anglican church.
- 54:36Uh the the Church of England was established as the official denomination, 1606 when they landed, and that lasted to 1786, right up to the signing of the constitution.
- 54:49So listen to these articles.
- 54:51Listen to Article III and Article 4.
- 54:52I'm not going to read them all, but there's just a portion of it.
- 54:56Uh the King's Article III, the King's Majesty.
- 55:00This is Article 3 of the request to go to Jamestown.
- 55:04The King's Majesty we acknowledge for supreme governor in his dominion, but in all things obedience is due unto him.
- 55:12If the thing commanded be not against God's word.
- 55:16So they're acknowledging, okay, we're going to bring ourselves under his rule if it is in accordance with the word of God.
- 55:24Here's Article 7.
- 55:27And lastly, we desire to give unto all superiors due honor to preserve the unity of the spirit with all who fear God, to have peace with all men, what in us lieth, and wherein we err to be instructed by any.
- 55:41So they're they're putting themselves under the authority of the king of England in the hopes of maybe finding religious liberty.
- 55:53But are they going to find it in Jamestown?
- 55:56Because the official denomination of Jamestown is the Church of England.
- 56:02And so this is intriguing.
- 56:05Because as you know, as the story goes, they don't make it to Jamestown.
- 56:10They end up blowing off course and they sail north.
- 56:15And this is where we get the Mayflower Compact.
- 56:19Um we we get a new form of government in America.
- 56:25Do you think this is the hand of God?
- 56:27Do you think this is Providence, blowing them off course?
- 56:31I mean, it it feels that way to me.
- 56:34And this is this is really the impetus of why we celebrate this arrival.
- 56:40I mean, we celebrate it.
- 56:42We celebrate it more than the arrival at Jamestown, that the pilgrims and Thanksgiving.
- 56:48It's a national holiday around here.
- 56:50All right, let's stop here.
- 56:52Let's stop with the pilgrims uh putting their request to go to Jamestown.
- 56:58So they're still in Holland and they've got to make their way back to England before they can get to America.
- 57:04All right, and that's really where the uh where the story will pick up tomorrow on Thanksgiving, day four.
- 57:11We'll go after it tomorrow on day four.
- 57:14We love history week around here, and we love it when it happens at Thanksgiving.
- 57:20All right, thank you for joining us.
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- 57:27Let's unite to renovate the age.