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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 082926 - Passports, Affidavits, and Vaccine Fears: A Thursday Radio Ranch Deep Dive · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  there we go with our familiar lyrics from mister Alvin Lee so many decades ago. His band ten years after, he always played good music, a lot of lot of real screaming, fast guitar riffs and stuff.
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  Some of you remember, we use it as our theme song of course because it's so prophetic
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  and
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  coming from forty years ago, it is amazing to see it come to reality from those song lyrics, I think. The
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  theme song of the show, hey, welcome Chris. Of course, it's Roger Sales, Radio Ranch and People's Patriot Network. It's a Thursday
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  edition
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  of such
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  03/07/2019
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  and
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  Chris tried to call me right before the show, I think, and so as a rising cranking up, I figured I'd just call you, Chris, see if I could catch you off guard a little bit. How you doing, man?
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  Unknown: Well, that's perfect. I'm actually South Of Las Vegas a bit in a different time zone and so it's 09:00 here. It's today 08:00 here. My phone had changed without my cognizing it. So, I called an hour early for your show. So, I apologize for being early. Well, that's okay.
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  Unknown: My
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  windows through my little portable through a reboot last night and it wasn't totally set up. So, that's
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  that that worked alright. I just had seen the notification.
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  So,
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  here we go. Did you get to hear all the yesterday show, Chris, with Paul and
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  Patrick and our new guy, Michael, the Brit that lives out in California? Did you hear much of that?
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  I heard the bulk of it. Yeah. I knew you were there and then you kind of dropped off and I didn't know.
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  Don't know. A couple of things to discuss today, at least that are topical. Just kind of take these Tuesdays and Thursdays where they will
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  and
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  see what comes if any listeners want to call in. Of course, the ideal scenario
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  is if we've got some new people like Michael
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  that are getting turned on to the concept here and have questions and we can address those for everybody's
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  benefit.
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  But there's a lot of other things to discuss. I saw an article right here. Quite frankly, right before the show started over on Zero Hedge, it popped up, Chris, that really shocked me. Honestly, you know, you don't get shocked too much or surprised these days.
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  California
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  Democrat
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  Diane Feinstein
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  slams
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  illegal
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  immigration.
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  Quote people
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  who should be here and those who come legally.
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  And it well, just
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  it shocked That is shocking. You're It it shocked me with her deviating
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  from the tribe's
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  drumbeat.
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  Unknown: And Well, I think I have to observe
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  that there's some
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  proclivity for the Democrat party to have some radical shifts in opinion because what they've been putting out is so totally intolerable for the bulk of Americans,
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  which puts them in danger, so they find it politically convenient to shift their positions.
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  Unknown: That that's kinda exactly what I was gonna say. What you can see here is the Democratic Party being ripped apart.
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  I mean, they're they're they're contentious as hell over Israel,
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  okay? And this stuff by Omar here as of late and what has happened, it, you know, it's the snake eating its tail, Chris. Once again, and what's happened in the big picture is Omar got out and made these remarks.
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  They're so hypersensitive
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  about it getting any bad publicity
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  that they backlash and tried to force a resolution,
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  not revolution, a resolution on the House shutting and and condemning anti Semitic speech
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  and before they can bring that up, a whole bunch of other people in the party are going, no, no. We're going to defend her right to say this.
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  So, now, the Democratic Party which is traditionally been the evil
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  empire's party is even being split apart and now you're seeing somebody here, miss Feinstein,
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  trying to go back and salvage some of it.
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  So, interesting in the political sphere. Can you comment?
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  Unknown: Well, I was gonna say I I almost see this as potentially
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  grandiose theater
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  and a political motivated
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  parent implosion
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  of the Democrat Party to give the illusion to people that they are fragmenting, although there are some elements that suggest that for sure,
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  but it could be just grand theater. I'm concerned.
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  Unknown: I I don't think it is. I think some I think it's the snake eating its tail. These, it it just like I were talking about yesterday, the the evil empire, their main plank of their program is immigration
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  so that they can diversify these these societies
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  so they can come in and do their dirty work. They can't do it in a homogeneous
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  society. They get sniffed out too easy and everybody starts coming after em. They've learned that over history,
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  okay? And so, they come in here and do that to us. They bring all of these, we're trying to set up the third crusade,
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  all these Muslims in by hook and by crook, by day, and by night, overcover
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  and undercover.
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  They, of course, congregate
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  because everybody going wants to seek their own. They congregate in an area and now in our system, they got voting power and they got representation.
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  Unknown: They go in and they. Now,
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  Unknown: they'll hold on. They get they get one elected. They go in there and she starts coming out and saying the truth about this oppression that's going on over on the other side of the world. They're in Satan's sandbox
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  and they can't do anything about it.
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  Unknown: They could. Well, that's my observation is whenever you bring in these hordes of radically diverse opinions and religious beliefs and stuff, and they start
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  observing the obvious that most of the people on the planet are, that there's a particular group of people on the planet that think they should dominate everybody else and that their elite chosen of some demon pagan god.
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  It becomes pretty obvious to the rest of us
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  and those groups of people that that's radical divergent from what we think is normal and sustainable and regular opinions, and it's very dangerous to the rest of us. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Three bags full.
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  Unknown: So, that's kind of interesting that just as I said that popped up right before the show today.
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  Several of the other things. I've been listening
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  as I've been watching all these videos lately, you know over on the right where they have the corresponding
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  correlating
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  things that might interest you videos.
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  Well, I noticed one over there, Chris,
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  That was of of a guy that I've always admired. I never have followed him all that much. I know who he is
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  and and I knew some of his philosophies but this is a number of interviews with a black guy named Thomas
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  Sowell. Are you familiar with him?
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  Unknown: I am. He is a very astutely and well informed man, irrespective of his color, and he's got quite a bit of really respected writings and very clear and informed
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  Unknown: correctly opinions I think. Yeah, dead level, good common sense thinking, very practical solutions to problems and ways of looking at them.
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  Conservative
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  and
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  a real good friend of another guy that I have had more exposure to
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  over the years, especially when he used to host Rush Limbaugh is Walter Williams, who's another guy that I just really totally admire and I admire these guys because and I didn't even know about Soul's background. I knew a little bit about Walter Williams but
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  Soul
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  was a Marxist
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  in his earlier life
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  and he was a guy grew up in Harlem,
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  went out, got got a job,
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  started working, joined the Marine Corps. When he first got a job in Harlem
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  and it's interesting on this interview on this particular one I was watching this morning, The same guy from the Heritage Institute, I believe, Heritage Foundation is interviewing him and asking him questions and
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  they got into something about this welfare and the old way it used to be in the way it is now and he asked him this point blank question.
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  Chris, he said,
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  Thomas, you remember the Jim Crow laws, don't you? Oh, yes. I remember the Jim Crow laws.
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  But even these educated guys still don't get it.
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  Okay?
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  So, they're asking him about that and he he he in his first job, he made a little bit of money and he went back and bought found an over there in Harlem. He grew, born and raised in Harlem, found a
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  old set of encyclopedias
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  and bought them and started educating himself.
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  Went into the Marine Corps, got out, etc, etc, got on as he got older, got more conservative and saw the way things really work in life and practical application,
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  and a good idea of what's been going on. They centered quite a bit on this
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  talk I was listening to particularly
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  today
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  on the welfare state towards the end of the program here. I don't think I've even finished it yet.
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  And
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  you know what we know and have come to understand,
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  Chris, is that this is their vehicle.
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  They they they and now I understand it even a little bit better because they get you all diversified and multiculturalized
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  and
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  and then they they come in
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  and start laying all this stuff down, alright?
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  It just it just very interesting and and of course, as I was trying to tell, we got a good old listener, Chris named Kay,
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  who was her and her husband were out in California. They were early listeners in the early days of this and then her
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  daughter had a child and the parents both work and she ended up moving to the East Coast and working a lot and she's kind of lost touch with the program for a few years and she's coming back into it, you know? People drift in and out of this and
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  I was trying to tell her, I said, well, you need to focus on,
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  first of all, anybody that's new to the program,
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  you should go to castbox.fm
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  and I I think that December 5 show that we did, it was a Wednesday,
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  Chris with Paul and Brian Howard when Brian went over his
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  findings from dealing with the hospital on his daughter's birth certificate.
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  That's one of the most important shows I've done in a long time if not ever.
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  Quite frankly. Oh, absolutely.
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  Unknown: Absolutely. In fact, curiously,
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  I'm dealing with some
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  medical related topics myself.
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  That's part of why I'm down here.
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  You were talking about the myth
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  of the welfare state where they promise them everything, and they give them a little bit here and there. Some people get a little more than others,
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  but they actually generally don't give them anything,
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  of substantial
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  stuff, some trinkets, maybe some freezy bomb Obama phones or whatever else under the illusion to get their votes.
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  And that way, they get their consent, and, of course, that's an important element of carrying forth their, takeover programs of the Democrat Party of of the mob rule by getting consent from all these groups they import, they think. Of course, all of them don't think along with the democrat lines, and none of them many of them are very family loving and think that life
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  should be able to be carried on and shouldn't be able to murder children or
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  engage in pedophilia or other insane
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  dimension demonic type activities,
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  and it becomes polar opposite what they thought they were gonna get when they got the vote. But it's it's very, very
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  a difficult game to prognosticate with any specific reliabilities.
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  The chances and,
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  Unknown: the odds are a little, skewed in the adverse what they expect. Well, I was going in a little bit different direction, a back little bit more than forward and present to past
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  and
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  the what we found out here on the show live
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  with you know, our Friday regular co host there. I guess you'd call him that. Our guru with spirituality,
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  mister Brent Winters
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  and the day that we explored Corban.
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  Spontaneously,
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  never came up. It wasn't pre discussed.
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  I mentioned it from reading it in an article.
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  Was written by the same guy, Gary Kinghorn,
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  that wrote the initial review of my book many years ago
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  called the the name of the article was provocative, Chris. It was called Jesus was an anarchist
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  and
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  obviously controversial.
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  Gary's a fine Christian, very smart guy, very accomplished in life,
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  and in
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  that article, he
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  mentioned Corban. That's the first time I'd ever seen it and
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  in my own internet kind of research way, I went and put Corban in there and it came up with a couple of examples and it didn't really explain it very well to me
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  about
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  Jesus would. It's only mentioned twice
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  in the New Testament and
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  Jesus would rail on the Pharisees
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  and pointed out that they were using Corban
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  and you go to the Wikipedia
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  and it or or the internet in general and it just says, well, as this is this situation happened and Jesus said this that you're violating the laws of Moses and it didn't explain it anymore than that.
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  And so. We don't want. Go ahead. On that day, I just mentioned it with Brent and Brent said, well, I mean, let me look in my study Bible, what I wrote and he goes over there and reads it out and of course, obviously, it's the social system.
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  They had created a social system
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  and they get people hooked
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  and then they
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  give em a little enough to
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  barely subsist in most instances
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  and then you're hooked into the state and even more so, Chris, you've got the socialist mentality now.
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  So anyway, that's some of the things that have come out of this, the understanding and insight that we have here because of what we know to be factual and historically accurate
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  is that these guys are just replicating what they did two thousand years ago and
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  they weren't waiting around. Absolutely. They said, we're not waiting around for the Messiah to come because we we we're impatient and we got all this power and we got all this evilness in our ranks now. Why don't we just be our own messiahs and we'll just set the same system up? And that's exactly what's happened, it appears to me.
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  Unknown: Well, you know, Roger, let me point out something that's collateral fallout from precisely the event in the show and the commentary by Grant Allen Winters on core band that came into my life and gave me the ability to see something
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  very clearly and to associate it based upon that exact premise.
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  And that was when I was researching the documents from the office of Frith's supervision,
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  the FDIC
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  related to the so called
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  low bid auction sale of Wammuth's asset that seized by the office of the Thrift's supervision under a late hours SWAT team raid and opened up. That was on Thursday. I opened up like nothing had happened on Friday. And I was reading through there, and I'm I came across
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  a divided
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  term that
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  struck a very strong chord with me because I learned listening to this show and that studied opinion of,
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  mister Tinhorn and mister Winters.
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  And it had broken the name. They talked about the Bond Kings.
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  And, of course, hearing that and reading that in official high government paperwork,
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  it clearly translated me. They were talking about the reverse word, the kings of Korban.
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  Take it because they can.
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  Unknown: Well, you could interpret it that way, Chris. I couldn't argue with it at all with your line of reasoning and and of course, as you get to the word and these words are so important,
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  as you get to the word bond,
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  as
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  I've said so often, never heard anybody else say it.
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  Bond is the root word of bondage.
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  I mean, that's pretty straightforward.
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  That's pretty straightforward
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  and simple to understand, isn't it?
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  Unknown: It it is. It is. You know, there are other languages on Earth like Japanese
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  and they tell us joto ichi ba is okay number one, it sounds the same. But when you change a letter here and there like the synagogue
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  of Satan is accustomed to doing from the beginning of time since the Tower Of Babel,
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  when the confusion was thrust upon all the tribes except for one, the synagogue of Satan, I observe.
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  It becomes very relevant and material on what going on today and has been going on since the beginning of time. Twisters of the word.
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  Unknown: There's a real good
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  video out
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  of
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  somebody hadn't been around in a while and seen too much of her anyway.
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  A gal of much accomplishment and much repute
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  and that's
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  Doctor Day.
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  Doctor,
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  I wanna always call her Doris Day
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  but you know, Doctor Day from the San Francisco Hospital,
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  orthopedic surgeon used to be on with the rents all the time. Lorraine Day.
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  You're familiar with her, right, Chris?
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  Unknown: I've heard that name before.
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  Lorraine, of course, was my first wife's name so that's very familiar with me. I'm not real clear on what her.
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  Unknown: No, I know. Promoting and. Well, she
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  hadn't been around in a while
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  and and all of a sudden, she's come out with an interview. I I John sent it to me the other day. He saw it somewhere
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  and I noticed it's popped up on
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  over on beforeit'snews.com
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  today.
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  Just after I'd finished watching it, the rest of it this morning, I'd watched about part of it. She is a really interesting gal,
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  okay? And she used to be on with rents
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  all the time, and then they had some kind of urinating match about something.
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  But she's out there in San Francisco. She's very attractive woman even in older age. That's why I said I used to get her confused with Doris Day. Her name because she looks like Doris Day. You know, blonde and that all American
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  housewife look, you know? Except she was a little more accomplished than the average housewife, Chris. She was
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  the head orthopedic surgeon at San Francisco General Hospital.
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  And
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  what her experiences
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  were several actually. She dwells on more
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  of one today which was the results of being in that capacity
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  in San Francisco
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  when the gay movement
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  exploded and was in full swing out there. Excuse me, the Sodomite Movement.
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  I don't mean to gloss over that by bastardizing
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  that good word.
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  Unknown: I think it deserved
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  Unknown: the clarification. Yes. It it it needs to be clarified. You know, I'm the one that's so fastidious about words and even I slip up. We call all, we all say, give me some money. Give me some money. Not give me some currency or even more accurately. Give me some debt,
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  okay?
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  And so, I I should substitute that word. She was out in San Francisco doing this pretty important job there with the full swing in the early stages of the Sodomite Movement in that city and
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  her results from dealing with these sodomites. She said in this interview today at one point, she got out and started talking publicly anti sodomite stuff. They even went. She tells the story to the owners of the bathhouses
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  where she said, man, we knew what was going on in there. Some of those guys were having sex 100 times a night.
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  Unknown: Wow. That's that's pretty exponentially.
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  Unknown: And she went went to the owners to try and shut it down. They said, hey, everybody's making money. They're happy. We're making money. You're making money because all the backlash from the medical backlash that they were dealing with at the hospital,
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  okay?
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  So,
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  anyway, she got out and started publicly railing on the dangers of this lifestyle
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  and
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  she said that the hospital, yeah, Ben, are you sitting down here?
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  When she would operate the the hospital had to hire armed guards to stand outside the Surgery Room because the gays threatened to come in there and start throwing HIV blood on her and stuff in operations.
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  Unknown: That's pretty dramatic,
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  Roger. You know, this is a that's a very dangerous concept that they would be so violent,
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  so aggressive
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  that
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  deviant
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  Unknown: lifestyle would promote them to behave in that unacceptable fashion. Well, that's exactly her observations. So, she said on the surface, they're all sweet and loving and all this love and she said, they are ugly.
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  Okay? So, anyway, that's just one thing but
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  the interesting part is be she's being interviewed Chris for this hour long interview
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  by two messianic Jews and
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  they talk a whole bunch about Israel and about Jews and
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  she she went on to get cancer as a physician
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  and tried some of the conventional medical therapies and finally
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  just bolted totally and went to eating raw food and
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  all that stuff cured herself. She had a she had a breast cancer tumor that was as big as an orange.
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  Okay? Totally cured it. Totally cured herself.
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  Gotten out and gotten extremely spiritual and gotten very active in the battle. Met and married
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  a sitting congressman.
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  And I don't remember what his name was. He's she's still married to him although he's in bad shape right now evidently
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  but he was in the congress the day they slipped through the Noah High laws.
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  And the way they did it. That's important to us. It is and the way they did it, he didn't even realize it. She went back after they'd gotten married and realized it and started asking him questions about it they got the story of what happened that day. They were in session and they dismissed
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  and everybody
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  except four people left.
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  And then the four that were left, they introduced a build that was to commemorate
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  the birthday of this rabbi Schmirson
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  and
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  in that that they passed was the Noahide laws.
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  That's how they got it through. That's that's
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  Unknown: a pretty skull dudgers. In fact, that doesn't even constitute a quorum from my memory of what it takes to pass the bill. Kinda the same
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  Insinuate
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  Unknown: some skull dudgery there. How about the same way they got the Federal Reserve Act through?
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  Exactly.
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  Unknown: Yes. As a matter of fact, that's correct. Uh-huh. Okay. So, anyway, it's a good interview
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  Unknown: and
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  and she's talking
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  just a lot about very interesting things but boy, she doesn't pull any punches in these and and the husband of this team that's interviewing her was
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  CIA for a while
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  or at least had some some,
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  you know, and and got out of that but he he relates couple of stories and I watched it in several different settings so I don't have a contiguous,
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  you know, memory of the whole thing but
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  but bits and pieces and but it's a very interesting interview. It's out there.
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  Doctor Lorraine Day.
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  In fact, I could go dig it out and stick it on today's show description actually. Probably a good thing to do. So, I'd probably do after the show when I'm loading that stuff up today which takes me an inordinate amount of time these days.
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  It takes as much time to upload a two hour show as it did to do the show.
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  Unknown: That's pretty technically involved there. You think it should be a lot easier to do. Well, it's because I Well,
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  Unknown: I'm gonna tell you exactly what the reason is. It's the reason we're having these
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  problems communicating.
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  Voice is because it's the upload speed.
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  I've got a really low
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  upload speed. You know, with the internet, you gotta download and an upload speed and.
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  Right. Usually, they can be even pair.
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  You know, the the same But, boy, with this one Yeah. It's like real cattywamped.
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  I've got it. Mega. We got we got 10 meg megs per second, I think, the way they megabits
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  per second hitting the house, and I can get that on a download,
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  but my upload speed
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  sometimes
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  is less than point five.
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  Unknown: That's a very strange situation. Something you wouldn't expect, although I can see where that would be a great issue, and that would why it would take so long to upload
• 27:04
  Unknown: a show. Well, it is. That's exactly the reason. It's the reason we have some of these communication problems occasionally as it even gets down in the weaker part of the range but
• 27:13
  hopefully, we'll get over it. I've got a couple of ideas of interestingly enough, this one,
• 27:19
  this one's real techy.
• 27:22
  I have a friend of mine over here the other night. He was talking. He said, well, I got real terrible internet. He lives in this area actually. Said, I got real terrible internet at home and and I was trying to watch Netflix and I'm always getting all this buffering stuff
• 27:35
  and so he said, what I did was took my cellphone
• 27:39
  and cellphones have a habit. You can latch on to hotspots and stuff and transfer data.
• 27:45
  And he put his cellphone
• 27:48
  over on his computer through the cellphone signals and no buffering. It's perfect.
• 27:53
  So, I might have to acquire me a real cheap cellphone somewhere
• 27:58
  and just buy a
• 28:00
  a subscription to it, $20 a month or something. So, I can leech off of it two hours a day and get the decent upload. That may be a solution, you know? Strange as it sounds.
• 28:12
  Yeah, ain't that weird?
• 28:15
  Unknown: Workarounds. That's exactly what I was doing here. You know, whenever we are
• 28:19
  in the state,
• 28:21
  a state, Nevada state in particular, which is a corrupt state,
• 28:25
  and you have to rely on the state agents to do an assessment,
• 28:30
  a mental eval, a psych eval,
• 28:32
  for your
• 28:33
  assessment.
• 28:35
  It becomes problematic because we know that if you eat the bread off the king's table, you may have an obligation to do the king's bidding.
• 28:43
  That's a pretty well known maxim of law. If you eat the king's bread, you do the king's bidding.
• 28:49
  He who receives the obligation owes the obligado is how the maxim is stated.
• 28:54
  And so I thought it might be in my best interest to get a fair, neutral, unbiased assessment to get out of that state into a different state where they may have a less
• 29:04
  conflicted and biased
• 29:07
  view of me to get an accurate neutral assessment. Not that I'm asking anybody to do anything unlawful or illegal. I just want them to be fair is all I'm looking for, neutral, and not come in with a predilected bias that I'm a domestic terrorist and wanna
• 29:21
  armed and dangerous and wanna commit suicide. You know, it's a little dramatically
• 29:25
  opposed to my interest if you can believe that. So I I thought it made cogent sense to me being a really confident, clear thinking, and critical thinking individual that somebody that didn't have that point of view that was rather rescued
• 29:41
  might be better to do my assessment than somebody that was on the payroll as it were.
• 29:46
  Unknown: Well, unfortunately, anytime you get with any of those guys, they're gonna pop into that system and look at what's online and in the in the file.
• 29:55
  Now. Well. If you can find. Heather. If if if you can find somebody who isn't prejudiced and jaundice and
• 30:03
  maybe even
• 30:05
  open to our line of thinking that you may have you may have bypassed
• 30:10
  it but otherwise, I would think the majority of em,
• 30:12
  government
• 30:14
  employees of whatever stripe and they're going to you want em to do something. They're going to start checking on you and you know what they're going to see when they look at yours.
• 30:23
  Unknown: Well, here we go down the rabbit hole, Roger.
• 30:26
  You know, this is exactly what the
• 30:29
  Sovietized
• 30:30
  see something, say something, enlist every government agent, every licensee of the government
• 30:35
  under the InfraGard
• 30:36
  program,
• 30:38
  guarding protecting the national security, the public safety,
• 30:42
  ruse that everybody is an agent for the government washing out for suspicious activity
• 30:47
  and generate a report there from.
• 30:49
  And you're exactly right. There is a database that they can go on. In fact, I think and it's clear to me and my assessed and astute observations
• 31:00
  that there is actually a secret bar
• 31:03
  judiciary
• 31:03
  hit list,
• 31:04
  maybe tied to telephone numbers or name or other identifiable
• 31:09
  qualities about yourself where they can pull up your database and history and find out. And if you've been a
• 31:16
  very effectious pro se litigator,
• 31:19
  an informed
• 31:20
  self defender or one that
• 31:22
  Unknown: Oh, Chris, did I cut you off? Chris. Hello?
• 31:27
  No. This is another gentleman. Okay. Another gentleman. Listen. I'm sorry. That's my fault. I'm gonna put go back to my guest, my Chris,
• 31:35
  and I'm gonna call you back to join us. Okay?
• 31:39
  Okay. Perfect. I appreciate that, Roger. Yeah. I've got your phone number right here. I'll give you a ring right back. May take me just a second. Okay?
• 31:48
  Thank you so much. Resume call. Let me see if I can find out. I'll tell you, Skype has got us real messed up here, so I'll call you right back.
• 31:56
  See. Hold on. Let me make sure I got your phone number.
• 32:01
  Oh, man. Okay. Let's see because it doesn't show up the way. Hold on a second. I'll tell you what. Microsoft,
• 32:09
  I get so
• 32:11
  aggravated,
• 32:13
  and I don't see your phone number up there anymore. So, Imma, I'll tell you what, just hang up. Imma go back to the other call, call back in. Okay. I'll see your number. Okay. Be able to write it down. I don't wanna ask you to put it out over the years while I'm doing this. Okay. And I'll I'll see it and call you right back. Alright? Okay? I remember the area code.
• 32:34
  Okay. So I'll talk to you in a minute.
• 32:38
  Thank you, Roger. Okay. Okay. You're routed. Chris? Alright. Hold on. Chris, hold on. We've been gone for a minute. Okay? I had to switch. Well, I wasn't sure about. Keep going. I answered. It's a Skype stuff. I answered another call. I I I thought I was clicking on something. Anyway, I ended up answering the call and putting you on hold. So, I'm waiting for this gentleman to call back so I can get the number
• 33:00
  and call him so he can join us. Thank you, Skype.
• 33:06
  Oh, man. I tell you. It's just one challenge after another.
• 33:12
  So, hopefully, it's somebody sounded new as a new guy. Hope somebody did the question that we could help him out with and stuff.
• 33:19
  So, that's not it.
• 33:21
  Usually, when somebody calls in, it registers in there and you can go back and get it or else I gotta write it down and it didn't register
• 33:29
  and when I answered his call, it took it away.
• 33:33
  So, I I mean, you know, there's supposed to be a merge button somewhere
• 33:39
  where I can hit this little icon and it merges the calls together like we used to do but I can't find the blasted
• 33:47
  thing to push.
• 33:50
  It's in the direction. Well. It shows what it is and you can't find it anywhere.
• 33:56
  Okay.
• 33:57
  Okay. Here's his number. He's called. Hold on. 335335.
• 34:03
  And
• 34:04
  then
• 34:06
  6824.
• 34:09
  Okay. And that was the right area. Okay. Now I'm gonna hang up on him,
• 34:13
  and I'm gonna call him right back here, Chris.
• 34:16
  Maybe.
• 34:18
  A hassle what
• 34:20
  a hassle these people have caused.
• 34:28
  Unknown: Go ahead, Chris. Say something, man. Oh, I was gonna say, well, what I was providing is I was
• 34:33
  I discovered this concept,
• 34:35
  watching Jesse Ventura's conspiracy theory shows on TV. He did really one very astute on InfraGard where he went into an office and surprised the guy, and he had covered some very
• 34:45
  interesting stuff that they had some special provisos,
• 34:48
  maybe some kickbacks reporting things like special
• 34:51
  suspicious activity reports and other data gathering where see something, say something is the operant word that anybody that's a little outside the normal could be
• 35:01
  deemed as potentially dangerous for the government.
• 35:05
  Unknown: Oh, these people drive me crazy, man.
• 35:10
  Unknown: Don't let them get you. They don't have any power over you, you don't give them.
• 35:18
  Unknown: Good Zora.
• 35:22
  Sometimes you get crank calls and trap calls and other vexatious people that wanna rant you or tell you I don't know, Chris. I got the the the window up. I got the guy's phone number in there, and then the button where it says add him to the call
• 35:39
  won't light.
• 35:42
  Unknown: Well, it could be a three letter agency's number. Oh, please, Chris.
• 35:46
  Unknown: Chris, please. Please.
• 35:49
  Unknown: Well,
• 35:50
  I'm only saying that could account for it.
• 35:56
  I get numbers on my phone, and I try to call them back. The number you've called is not working. Look. We're You're pretty frugal. There ain't enough of us to to
• 36:06
  Unknown: be more than a pimple on an elephant's to them.
• 36:10
  Unknown: We're probably. The quality of information here is pretty substantial.
• 36:14
  Unknown: Well, yeah. The the technical
• 36:16
  expertise
• 36:17
  isn't.
• 36:18
  Oh, come on. Now, why won't, you know, listen, it won't add the guy. I put the number in there the way it's supposed to be put in and I can't call him back and I don't know why.
• 36:30
  I'm only saying there must be Just I'm gonna put you on I'm gonna put you on hold. Hold on a minute, Chris. Caller,
• 36:37
  I just, alright, hold it. Let's do this another way.
• 36:40
  Just hold just hold on a second but I'm I want I can't call you back. I won't. I put your number in and it won't let me call you back.
• 36:50
  Now, hold on. Alright. Now, here, your number finally showed up. Let's see what's going on here.
• 36:56
  I'm going to try and get Chris. I want you to just hold on, okay?
• 37:01
  Just hold on right there. No worries.
• 37:04
  Chris?
• 37:05
  Chris.
• 37:06
  Yes, sir. Hang up. I'm gonna I got him on the other line. I'm gonna go back and bring you in now. Okay?
• 37:14
  Unknown: You got Okay. Alright.
• 37:17
  Unknown: Now, we got our caller. Now, caller, let me see if I can bring my buddy back in here
• 37:23
  because I think I should be able to do it this way since it won't allow me to do it the other way. So, cross your fingers and Chris will be with us here in a second. What's your name?
• 37:35
  Unknown: Angelo.
• 37:36
  Unknown: Hey, Angelo. How are you doing, man?
• 37:41
  Unknown: Kinda stressed, man. I got a lot of questions. Forwarded to an automated voice mail system. 7025.
• 37:49
  Unknown: Chris, I told you I was gonna call you back. Hold on a minute, Angelo. I swear Bill Gates ought to have
• 37:55
  something his fingernails
• 37:58
  pulled out for all this crap.
• 38:01
  See if I can get him back on here. How aggravating.
• 38:04
  Unknown: He's
• 38:06
  part of the problem.
• 38:08
  Unknown: Chris is? Yeah,
• 38:10
  he's part of. Oh,
• 38:13
  oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, Chris. It looks like you're with us again. Chris, this is Angelo that was calling in that I just, for some reason, was unable to call back out and contact.
• 38:23
  But so are you new to the program, Angelo?
• 38:28
  Unknown: I'm new to the program. I listened to
• 38:31
  your you had a conference
• 38:34
  a while ago
• 38:35
  that Thomas Maddox brought me into, and I was listening, and I took down a lot of information. And I've got some questions. Okay. Good, man. You're exactly the kind of suspect we were looking for today. Shoot.
• 38:49
  Unknown: The usual suspect. Yes.
• 38:52
  Unknown: I'm not
• 38:54
  Unknown: I I really don't Maybe I don't want anything pinned on me. Okay. Okay. Do nothing. I swear. No pinnings. No pinnings from us. We'll
• 39:02
  be gentle.
• 39:03
  Unknown: I that's alright. I
• 39:05
  I plead the fish that's still legal.
• 39:10
  Unknown: Yes, sir.
• 39:12
  Are you in Texas? Are you in Texas, first off? No.
• 39:17
  You
• 39:18
  mind telling us what state you're in?
• 39:21
  New York State. Oh, a good one. Okay.
• 39:26
  Have you been into this for a while or did you just wake up?
• 39:31
  Unknown: I
• 39:32
  woke up a number of years back. I just didn't know how to do it, and now I'm finally said enough's enough. I'm tired of this BS, and my wife and I are going forward with it. And I don't care. I'm I'm I'm done. I'm real I'm really done. Had for you. You're the kind of guy we want. What can I do for you, and how can I help you?
• 39:50
  Okay. So you gentlemen
• 39:52
  probably heard recently what's going on. There was a hearing the other day,
• 39:57
  in Washington or something. They're trying to
• 40:00
  you got these madmen running around that wanna stick us with these needles with these vaccinations and stuff that Forced objection. That we're
• 40:08
  well, we're not gonna have a choice pretty soon from the way it's looking here because they won't let anyone on the opposition side who is RFK. And a lot of people don't know this. But RFK,
• 40:18
  from the Vaxxed movie, he's an attorney.
• 40:21
  He actually sued The United States Government recently,
• 40:25
  and he won. But you won't hear nothing about this on mainstream media. Unfortunately. They he's proven that
• 40:31
  for the past thirty years, these pharmaceutical companies have not done any type of vaccination,
• 40:37
  vaccination research,
• 40:39
  before releasing it to the public. Correct.
• 40:41
  And
• 40:43
  they would not let him speak or Dell Bigtree from
• 40:47
  Highwire the other day in defense because
• 40:50
  The United States is trying to make it mandatory for every man, woman, child, and animal, as far as I'm concerned, get stuck with the needle. And I want no part of this. Yeah. Well, can I correct you just a little bit, Angelo?
• 41:04
  Unknown: Want every I man what you're gonna say. They want every man and woman, I'm gonna exclude the dogs
• 41:12
  in my response,
• 41:13
  that are citizens of The United States and residents under the fourteenth amendment
• 41:18
  to be vaccinated.
• 41:21
  Unknown: You got it. I've got
• 41:24
  Unknown: a little salient information
• 41:26
  about that too. The head of the CDC,
• 41:29
  I can't remember his first name, but his last name I know very well is Gottlieb,
• 41:34
  who was part of the MKUltra
• 41:36
  inspiration project
• 41:38
  spun off of Jose Elgato's
• 41:40
  mind control experiments.
• 41:41
  Unknown: Yeah. They're a bunch of people. But you still know exactly.
• 41:47
  Sorry. Well, no. No. We can talk about the problems. I wanna talk about the solution and the way you and your wife and you got children, Angelo?
• 41:56
  Unknown: I do not, and that's the one thing that I'm fortunate for why I don't have children, and that's the only thing that I'm thankful to God that I don't have children. Well, if you could have them, you could use them now to be further
• 42:06
  Unknown: buttress our all of our position because all you have to do is send an affidavit to the Secretary of State.
• 42:13
  I suggest you tell them what you are not.
• 42:16
  You can do it very simply. It does not have to be super legal or super super involved. You can make simple statements
• 42:23
  and it will change everything for you. Now, the the paper is not your freedom though.
• 42:29
  Your freedom is understanding the concept
• 42:32
  and understanding why you get to do that and how it is effective
• 42:37
  because
• 42:38
  should you get into a urinating match with one of these guys,
• 42:43
  you're the one that's just going to have to defend your position.
• 42:46
  So it's the information and the knowledge that's your freedom,
• 42:50
  and the paper that you file with the secretary of state of The United States is like your diploma.
• 42:57
  Unknown: I get that. It's always been hard to understand, and I guess I got some reading to do.
• 43:03
  I
• 43:04
  I meant to order your book, which I was gonna do, pretty soon, Roger. But now it's at a point where we got nine days to do this. I'm going for my passport today. I don't care.
• 43:14
  I've got the affidavit. I got it from Thomas. He gave it to me. I'm gonna be filling that sucker out, and I'm gonna take it to whoever needs to see it to get this started. Are you in the I am not gonna be a victim of this. Are you in the city? I'm,
• 43:30
  Unknown: well, I guess you could say I'm a township of a city. Okay. Well, the reason I say that is they probably have a passport office there in New York where you can physically go in and do this.
• 43:43
  Don't the post offices have it anymore? They do, but then you gotta go through the mailing system because all they do is mail it to Washington DC.
• 43:51
  I would check with the Secretary of State and see if there's an office because of your time limitations
• 43:57
  that you can go to directly. Okay. Now, I know that they have those. They have one in Atlanta.
• 44:03
  I think Chris just went through one similar in Las Vegas
• 44:07
  and I have some updated information Yeah. Okay and I know that they have em in DC because one of our black listeners has walked in there and done it several times.
• 44:17
  You have some information. Chris has just done this admission of a DS 11 here and is waiting for his. Should I say anxious anxiously? Would that be correct?
• 44:27
  Unknown: I think that would be absolutely correct.
• 44:30
  What
• 44:31
  they tell you is it's two to three weeks if you pay for the expedited
• 44:35
  upgrade fee to get it quicker.
• 44:38
  And if you have a date of departure outside the country or some other reason,
• 44:43
  then they can
• 44:45
  make it happen pretty quick.
• 44:46
  However, in actuality,
• 44:48
  it's four to six weeks. They tell you when you call the agency on the phone and the travelstate.gov
• 44:54
  website
• 44:55
  to make those things happen and you get your number that tracks your application once you put it online.
• 45:02
  Unknown: Now, Angelo Questions for you, gentlemen. Manager. Sure. I'm I'm just going to suggest that because you're kind of putting the horse before the cart and and the way I try and advise people to do things here and I understand the situation.
• 45:14
  Okay. But
• 45:16
  you you need to make a commitment to start reading and listening to these programs and if you got questions, you call in, man. We'll just deal with them because I guarantee you, there's people out there listening right now that'll have the same questions you've got but they never have the courage to call in the radio show and ask em.
• 45:35
  Unknown: I have the courage. I'm tired of it. Tired of it. I'm done. I really am. I'm finished. Good. I'm I'm I've had it. Absolutely had it. Welcome.
• 45:46
  Thank you.
• 45:48
  Unknown: You said you had another question? So
• 45:51
  Unknown: yeah. Relating to that issue. Now I'm gonna go for the passport. I'm gonna try to find out if there's a location here in the New York area,
• 45:59
  Western New York is where I'm at, where I can go and get this done today. If not, if I have to wait four to six weeks, do I need that passport to file that affidavit?
• 46:10
  Unknown: Well, you won't. File it for. Well, hold on. Let's get let's get a couple of things straight.
• 46:14
  The passport is an ex parte document. It really doesn't do anything but represent who you are if you wanna leave the country and it's a very valid ID within the country too.
• 46:26
  But the important part here is not the passport.
• 46:29
  The important part is is your affidavit in your administrative
• 46:32
  file.
• 46:34
  If you do apply for a passport here,
• 46:38
  then that passport is attached to that affidavit because the affidavit was put in when it was generated.
• 46:44
  K? Now you don't have to do a pass for it to send that affidavit in. You can drop it in the post office to state
• 46:52
  today.
• 46:56
  Unknown: Okay.
• 46:58
  Unknown: Do not have to have the passport
• 47:01
  with this.
• 47:03
  It didn't say in the feudal era for a thousand years when the serf volunteered out of servitude,
• 47:08
  the lord of the manor was gonna give him a passport.
• 47:14
  You have to do is volunteer
• 47:15
  out of the system.
• 47:19
  If if you can afford it,
• 47:21
  yes.
• 47:22
  If you want, if you're certainly, if you're gonna leave the country or plan on traveling, absolutely, you gotta have one. But ordinarily, if people got the budget and everything else, get one with it at the same time. It validates what you sent in, but it is not mandatory.
• 47:41
  Unknown: Okay.
• 47:43
  Awesome.
• 47:44
  Okay.
• 47:45
  Next question,
• 47:47
  Unknown: if you if you gentlemen have the time. Sure. We got an hour and about fifteen minutes. How many questions you got?
• 47:55
  Unknown: I got some good ones. I mean, some ones that maybe people are not asking yet, but I I do have some very good questions. Okay. Well, I'm I'm wanting I've to address
• 48:06
  I've been unemployed for some time
• 48:09
  for reasons medical. I won't get into it.
• 48:13
  I had some unscrupulousness
• 48:14
  done by a previous employer, but I'm I'm not gonna I won't bring that topic up. I'm basically getting myself back to work at this point. And
• 48:23
  I've heard things in the past. I'm sure you guys are familiar with Global Prosperity Group a number of years back.
• 48:29
  Unknown: Keith Anderson. I kinda remember hearing about them. I'm not familiar with what they were teaching.
• 48:37
  Unknown: Okay. They were I'm suggesting to resend the Social Security number. Well, alright.
• 48:42
  Unknown: Great
• 48:43
  point. Let's just hold it right there. Social Security number makes no damn difference. It's not the nexus to the system.
• 48:53
  The nexus to the system is that you were born
• 48:56
  under the fourteenth amendment, which mimics the feudal era because it makes
• 49:01
  your status
• 49:03
  eligible
• 49:04
  on where you were born, place of birth, and not who your parents were,
• 49:08
  and that was what the feudal system was, and that's how they brought it in in the fourteenth amendment. All persons
• 49:15
  born.
• 49:16
  Now let's go through this Angelo.
• 49:18
  All persons born or naturalized
• 49:20
  in The United States,
• 49:22
  comma,
• 49:23
  and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
• 49:26
  comma, are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside.
• 49:32
  Right?
• 49:34
  Let's go
• 49:36
  over it again.
• 49:37
  All persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma,
• 49:42
  are
• 49:43
  subject to the jurisdiction
• 49:44
  thereof.
• 49:46
  It doesn't say that, does it?
• 49:50
  I'm not sure because this is where it gets sketchy. Well, no. No. No. This is this is it. Not well, this is it. Well, I'm cutting through a whole bunch of stuff for you, making it real easy. It does not say My ears are open. It does not say all persons born or naturalized in The United States
• 50:06
  are subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
• 50:09
  It says all persons born are naturalized in The United States
• 50:13
  and
• 50:15
  subject to the jurisdiction
• 50:16
  thereof. Thereof.
• 50:18
  And if there's some that are and subject,
• 50:21
  there's some that are and not subject, aren't there?
• 50:27
  Unknown: Yes.
• 50:27
  Which would be the people that want freedom. Correct.
• 50:31
  Unknown: Correct. So see, it's simple right there. It's right there in the verbiage, and nobody's ever understood it before.
• 50:39
  So it should say and, not are. No. If they well, it says and. If they were going to make it as totally tyrannical as they want to, it would say our subject. If there wasn't any way out, it would say our subject.
• 50:56
  Unknown: Okay.
• 50:57
  Unknown: I get it now. Okay. Now, the Social Security number is no doubt a tracking number and it's something they use internally to tag on to us, to track us, or to help enforce it through the
• 51:08
  commercial
• 51:09
  activities of the country and whatnot because everybody wants you to have one and make you think you have you have to have one which you don't. It's not the nexus to the system. I had friends in Argentina
• 51:20
  who lived in The US for eleven years, had their kids up there, both contributed to the system, were legal visa holders,
• 51:27
  and twenty
• 51:28
  five years later in Argentina they applied for Social Security and got it. EPA,
• 51:33
  OSHA,
• 51:35
  IRS did interact with them and IRS said this, Because you're not a resident, we may take 25%
• 51:42
  of your benefit, and they did, and they do.
• 51:46
  But the Social Security number is not a nexus to the system.
• 51:49
  It's this process
• 51:51
  that they've hidden from us from birth where they identify you in a commercial way with a thing they called a birth certificate which represents it
• 52:02
  that is really a warehouse receipt representing you as property.
• 52:09
  Unknown: Okay.
• 52:11
  I get that. So my question is this.
• 52:14
  I've heard through the Global Prosperity Group years ago when I was starting to look into this, first found out about it in IRS.
• 52:23
  I go ahead and resend the Social Security number Mhmm. Do I get all my money back that I paid into the individuals representing Satan? Yep. Hold your breath, and you'll get it right in the mail.
• 52:38
  Unknown: If you hold your breath long enough, you'll get it in the mail.
• 52:43
  They're not sending that back. The Social Security number is not a nexus to the system. Any citizen of any country of the world can sign contract with Social Security and send them that little pittance out of their out of their paycheck
• 52:57
  and get that thing funded and when they get past 62,
• 53:01
  they can draw off of it and it is no legal nexus.
• 53:07
  Unknown: It suits their agenda to presume and assume that it's a contribution,
• 53:11
  gift, or donation
• 53:12
  because you were not sophisticated or intellectually well informed enough to know that that's how the government operates. So they take your money and give you the illusion of an insurance policy. It it it here's what I think has happened, Angelo, over the years. I've been in this almost thirty years. Okay?
• 53:31
  Unknown: And and I've seen I've seen every shooting match rodeo of people that know what they're talking about that's come along.
• 53:39
  And gone out of my way in some instances to go listen to some of their stuff. And it's not that they are maliciously out there. It's that they've hidden this system so well and disguised it so well that people that are trying to diligently find answers stumble on something that's common, that has commonality
• 53:58
  like a Social Security number. Everybody's got one. You gotta have it. You gotta do. Boom. That's gotta be it. Well, it's not.
• 54:08
  Smoke screen. No. Listen. In the
• 54:11
  in the constitution,
• 54:12
  it says, admiralty law and they must be using admiralty law.
• 54:17
  Wrong.
• 54:20
  Okay? They they they This is misinformation
• 54:23
  and it may be intentional disinformation
• 54:25
  in some instances. I don't think it is in the majority.
• 54:29
  I think it's innocent mistakes
• 54:31
  of people that are fervently looking for an answer, that are grasping at things and plugging them, them in, that are not true and they're putting it out as truth and somebody hears it and then here's what happens, Angelo. You know, Mark Twain was obviously, right?
• 54:49
  Yes. You ever heard Mark Twain saying,
• 54:52
  it's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled?
• 54:58
  Unknown: Not that one, but I've heard of Mark Twain. Okay.
• 55:02
  Unknown: So once somebody like yourself
• 55:04
  because I read this from these people told me and man, they were official and and to try and tell to unlearn that with somebody is very difficult.
• 55:15
  I'm ready to unlearn. Well, that's about the first thing you gotta do is get some of that stuff out of your out of your system if you will, honestly
• 55:22
  but the Social Security number. Yep,
• 55:25
  back to your back to your original query here. The Social Security number doesn't matter. You can resend it till the cows come home. It doesn't make any difference. By the way, now, if you do put in a passport application,
• 55:37
  you will have to give it to them. It wasn't that way until
• 55:41
  last year, start of last year, Chris, I think and
• 55:45
  the reason for it is because of the IRS law that they passed a couple of years before that for anybody that is in over $50,000
• 55:54
  in collections with IRS
• 55:56
  can not only not can can be turned down from receiving the passport, but if you've got one, you can have it revoked.
• 56:05
  Unknown: Okay.
• 56:06
  So here's my question, and this is where it's pertinently applies
• 56:10
  in the current moment.
• 56:12
  So say I get a job because I've been off for a while,
• 56:15
  and I turn in my my forms and stuff like that. If I turn it in with that affidavit,
• 56:21
  does that mean that they're not gonna collect monies on me? Well, it's Or is it something that
• 56:27
  Unknown: go ahead. Oh, no. I was gonna I'm sorry to interrupt you. I don't mean to second guess you.
• 56:32
  Oh, no. I don't wanna interrupt you either. Okay, well when you go and apply, anybody that gets a job in The United States, know, applies for a job anymore,
• 56:41
  has to
• 56:42
  fill out a form called an I-nine.
• 56:46
  If you haven't been Yeah. That's what I came across today. Okay. Well, you'll notice up at the top of the I nine, it has the statuses there.
• 56:56
  Unknown: Actually, let me pull out that form. I have it right now because I had to go on a flight with an agency to get back to work today. Okay. That's why you're pulling up your form.
• 57:05
  Unknown: It's worthy
• 57:06
  to note that
• 57:08
  that
• 57:10
  Nexus that you're looking for, it doesn't really but it does operate.
• 57:14
  And that global tracking system of their property Oh, absolutely. Goes to a slavery number.
• 57:20
  Absolutely. It does. Does have some relevancy.
• 57:23
  They demand it. Although it's not your number,
• 57:26
  particularly, it's the government's number. They like to use those pronouns that give you the illusion of attachment.
• 57:32
  Unknown: Chris, I think he's off looking for the I nine. You've been talking to him, and he's not there. Got it. Have you got it? He was.
• 57:40
  I get it. Okay. Right up at the top on. Right up at I'm a I'm a keen individual, guys. Okay. No. I we can tell. Regular radio callers that call in. I'm keen. Okay. Well, we can tell that. We were. We we knew that already.
• 57:54
  Up at the top left, doesn't it have a list of statuses?
• 58:00
  Unknown: Let's
• 58:02
  see here, section one
• 58:04
  employee information attestation,
• 58:06
  Unknown: are you talking about above that or below it? Well I'm not sure, they may have changed it since the last one I've seen but somewhere on there, usually at the top, it used to be, they had a choice, a list of statuses.
• 58:17
  So US citizen, US resident Oh, okay.
• 58:21
  Unknown: It's right underneath the personal information that you fill in the blanks. It says, I'm aware federal law provides for imprisonment and or fines for false statements or use of false documents in connection with completion of this form. I attest under penalty or perjury that I am. Check one of the following boxes. Okay. Well, don't check it and give it to them till you got that damn affidavit
• 58:40
  Unknown: in the administrative
• 58:42
  file.
• 58:44
  Unknown: Oh, crap. They made me fill this out today.
• 58:48
  Unknown: Oh, well.
• 58:50
  Now I'm gonna tell you. Can you
• 58:53
  Unknown: me tell you. That I there might some changes that I need to make, so I can always go ahead and send an addendum to it. Can I? You might can. I'm
• 59:02
  Unknown: gonna tell a story,
• 59:03
  and that is a literal story that happened here about this revolving around this situation,
• 59:09
  okay?
• 59:10
  Before the book was out,
• 59:13
  I'm from, you know, the Panhandle Of Florida and a friend of mine who was a boat captain down there had another avid fisherman guy, and when Obama was running the first time, he saw a video on the fourteenth amendment,
• 59:26
  and he started commenting on it to my captain buddy, and my captain buddy says, hell man, if you want to know about the fourteenth amendment, you need to talk to this guy and because I've been telling him about it for years and
• 59:38
  so,
• 59:39
  he gets a hold of me. He's a real sharp young man like you, Angelo. Doctor's son
• 59:46
  from Memphis
• 59:47
  evidently done very well. He'd gone into the Air Force, flew helicopters,
• 59:52
  was stationed over in Germany
• 59:53
  and he retired and he likes to fish so he moved down there to Destin
• 59:57
  and he got involved in a situation with a gal in California and he was spending more money than he had
• 1:00:03
  and flying back and forth out there and so he had to get a job.
• 1:00:07
  He had a lot of experience, very bright guy. He was a graduate of Ole Miss and
• 1:00:13
  so he popped into a lot of these, there's a lot of the government contract offices and stuff down around where he lives around Destin, okay?
• 1:00:20
  And so, he goes in the first one. First one hires him, alright? So, they go, well, go on. Go to work. And he fills out his paperwork and stuff, and he had had enough information from me. They made him fill out that I nine form,
• 1:00:33
  and he clicked US National,
• 1:00:37
  but he did not have his affidavit on file.
• 1:00:41
  And so he goes to work the first day, everything's rosy,
• 1:00:45
  he comes back in the second day, and he said, Roger, it was like something you used to see out of a vaudeville film.
• 1:00:53
  He said, I'm out there on stage. I walk into the front door and the the head guy's office is right on the side and he said it was like somebody put a cane out there and put a crook around my neck and yanked me into his office, okay? And he said, he plopped that iron down in front of him and he said, if you don't change that,
• 1:01:15
  you don't have a job.
• 1:01:18
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:01:23
  Unknown: Alfredo. What I told my friend
• 1:01:25
  and I'll tell you, Angelo,
• 1:01:29
  is if you would have had that affidavit
• 1:01:32
  on file,
• 1:01:34
  you got a discrimination
• 1:01:36
  lawsuit where you may never have to work again.
• 1:01:42
  Because they can't discriminate,
• 1:01:44
  can they?
• 1:01:47
  Unknown: No. Not supposedly.
• 1:01:48
  Well, yet I've seen tons of discrimination during the time that I was looking for work and with my medical. Sure. Well, but here's the thing is is once you get and get knowledgeable
• 1:01:58
  Unknown: and you get
• 1:02:00
  handy with this stuff which means that you know the answers to this stuff and you understand it and you got your arms around it,
• 1:02:07
  okay?
• 1:02:08
  Okay. You've now become empowered
• 1:02:12
  because they can't say no to you.
• 1:02:15
  They couldn't have done away with the old system totally
• 1:02:19
  with some type of legislation.
• 1:02:21
  They had to bring the new one in and veneer over the old one and vacate all the offices.
• 1:02:31
  Unknown: Oh,
• 1:02:32
  that could be quite
• 1:02:34
  tedious and cumbersome for them.
• 1:02:36
  Unknown: Yes. Especially when they get confronted with it and in an official manner,
• 1:02:41
  and they don't want it to come out because it exposes
• 1:02:45
  their fraud.
• 1:02:49
  Unknown: Right. Now I've heard this many times from from you on that call with Thomas Maddox a number,
• 1:02:54
  weeks ago from surf to,
• 1:02:57
  to sovereignty. Yes. I I I get it. Okay. So now
• 1:03:01
  I guess this is where it comes down to now at this point. So if I build out this form,
• 1:03:08
  what do I need to do?
• 1:03:10
  Well, you mean I are are you get the affidavit.
• 1:03:13
  Unknown: You talking about your I nine?
• 1:03:17
  Yes. Okay, Robert. I'm trying to call you back, buddy.
• 1:03:21
  I'm trying to call you back.
• 1:03:24
  Hold on. I this Skype thing's driving me crazy today.
• 1:03:28
  I'm trying to call Robert back, and I don't know whether he called in on Skype or he called in on his phone. Robert, are you there?
• 1:03:36
  Hold your question, Angelo.
• 1:03:39
  Boy, I tell you. Got it. I I just despise these people with what they've done here.
• 1:03:46
  Oh, let let me try again. Just get your question right on the front of your tongue.
• 1:03:53
  Alright. Let me key him in on his phone. Okay, Angelo. What's your question again, please?
• 1:03:59
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:04:00
  So now I have the I nine form, and they had me fill it out today.
• 1:04:04
  And I was kinda weary about doing it because I said to them I said, okay. Can I bring this form back to you? And they're like, well, if if you're gonna get a passport or whatever you're gonna do because I didn't totally understand this at this point in time.
• 1:04:17
  They said to me, they go, well, your driver's ID and your your Social Security card should be sufficient at this point and any changes you can make later. So I probably shouldn't have went for that. But, anyway, now we're where we're at.
• 1:04:29
  How can I get this changed? Is there a possibility Well, you can't. Get that affidavit done and
• 1:04:34
  Unknown: I can't. I can't say that there's not. What you're doing is you're treading into ground that I really don't have any personal experience on, and I don't know any of my students that have had this experience.
• 1:04:45
  So you're kind of plowing new ground here, Yes, all
• 1:04:49
  I have to say that you should be able to change that status at any time.
• 1:04:55
  It might even put them in more of a precarious
• 1:04:58
  position
• 1:04:59
  if they hire you under your current status. And when you change over to the new one, if they try and fire you or give you any crap, it may be advantageous to you.
• 1:05:10
  Unknown: Oh, good.
• 1:05:12
  But that could that could generate.
• 1:05:15
  Unknown: Well, they could, well, it could generate, it could show discrimination.
• 1:05:19
  And let me tell you what, see, what I was getting at a minute ago when I was having trouble hooking Robert in. Hey, Robert. Is the fact that
• 1:05:28
  we don't know all these different things because everybody's got different circumstances,
• 1:05:33
  okay? But here's the one thing we do know is they do not want to have this fraud
• 1:05:39
  which is when you identify it and put it in a legal document like an affidavit,
• 1:05:44
  they don't wanna have it brought out.
• 1:05:47
  Okay? Because they're totally exposed,
• 1:05:49
  and they got no defense.
• 1:05:52
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:05:54
  Okay.
• 1:05:55
  That's my next question.
• 1:05:57
  Unknown: So I'm gonna this is just a a temporary agency, an employment agency right now. So they haven't found Oh, me I wouldn't worry I wouldn't worry about else I I wouldn't worry about them at all. Just go ahead and put it down. You're a citizen of The United States,
• 1:06:10
  etcetera, etcetera, and roll on.
• 1:06:13
  Unknown: Okay. So which box am I checking? Because now the the objects here is there's four different options. Well, you're not United States? Well, you're not a United States national yet because you haven't filed the affidavit.
• 1:06:26
  Unknown: And until you do that and they receive it, the presumption is you're the other.
• 1:06:33
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:06:34
  Perfect.
• 1:06:36
  Okay. So I I got some work to do today, and I know exactly what I'm gonna do with this.
• 1:06:41
  Next question.
• 1:06:45
  Unknown: So
• 1:06:48
  Unknown: oh, I lost it. Hold on. That's okay. We're very informal around here. Aren't we, Robert?
• 1:06:55
  Unknown: No. I I see that you guys are thorough.
• 1:06:58
  Oh, okay.
• 1:07:00
  Unknown: So in of the programs
• 1:07:03
  Unknown: is this Robert Maddox I'm speaking with, Dale? No. Robert is a friend of ours from out in Las Vegas. We got two of these Clark County, Las Vegas guys on the line with us. I think Robert just left.
• 1:07:13
  Go ahead, Angelo.
• 1:07:16
  Unknown: Okay. So
• 1:07:18
  from what I've I understand now, once I have the passport, I no longer use the driver's license
• 1:07:24
  at all. Correct?
• 1:07:27
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:07:28
  boy, you really got a lot of these shade of gray questions, don't you? That's a complicated question.
• 1:07:34
  You know, there's two things that worry people or concern people,
• 1:07:39
  Angelo, when they come into this,
• 1:07:41
  and one is IRS and the other is driving.
• 1:07:45
  Because one of the requirements
• 1:07:47
  for you to get your driver's license
• 1:07:49
  is they ask you, are you a resident of the state of New York? And if you answer no, they won't give you one.
• 1:07:57
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:07:58
  Unknown: And resident,
• 1:07:59
  of course, residency
• 1:08:01
  is the presumption and A confirms the presumption.
• 1:08:05
  So, this is about the only thing.
• 1:08:08
  It depends on how thorough you want to get with this
• 1:08:11
  and this is what that
• 1:08:13
  one of my peers came up with, which I think would probably work.
• 1:08:18
  I don't know if anybody's really
• 1:08:20
  tested it yet, okay?
• 1:08:22
  But what you're talking about, let's go back to the basis of law. The basis of all laws is called due process.
• 1:08:29
  Due process
• 1:08:31
  translates
• 1:08:32
  to notice
• 1:08:33
  and the right to be heard. Now, let's see. Robert wants to call again. Okay.
• 1:08:38
  Let me call him back. Hold
• 1:08:41
  on, folks. Jeez. What a pain in the butt this is.
• 1:08:46
  Okay.
• 1:08:47
  It's this he wants to call in on. Okay. Because he's got a Skype account. He's got his phone account. I don't know which one to call back. Alright. So, due process is the basis of all laws, all body laws. Then, due process translates out like this, Angelo.
• 1:09:04
  Notice and the right to be heard.
• 1:09:07
  Okay? That's due process.
• 1:09:10
  So what you're doing with this affidavit
• 1:09:12
  when you submit it to the Secretary of State is you're putting them on notice.
• 1:09:18
  You're putting them on notice that you're declaring your correct status,
• 1:09:21
  And that's a right to be heard. They can object, can't they?
• 1:09:26
  Can't they? Right.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah. But if they don't,
• 1:09:30
  then silence deems consent. That goes back to Henry the eighth. Okay?
• 1:09:35
  And so that's how we win because they can't rebut it and they won't.
• 1:09:40
  But they don't want this coming out anywhere.
• 1:09:42
  Alright? So that's the due process thing. Notice in the right to be heard. Once you've got it filed with the head guy up there,
• 1:09:50
  then you go back. Do you live in a small town, medium town, big town?
• 1:09:56
  Unknown: I would say we're an average town. I I'm not in the New York City area if that's what thinking. I'm more in the Western New York area near the Great Lakes. Alright. If you really wanted to dot all your Is and cross all your Ts,
• 1:10:09
  Unknown: you would take that affidavit
• 1:10:11
  first down to the county
• 1:10:13
  that you live in and file it in the property records office.
• 1:10:20
  More due process. I heard. Okay, because that's a public record. You're putting your affidavit in the public record to fulfill the first end of due process. It's in the public record. Does anybody object?
• 1:10:34
  Right?
• 1:10:36
  Unknown: Yeah. I get it. Go ahead. Now
• 1:10:39
  Unknown: you go and take it to
• 1:10:41
  the
• 1:10:43
  sheriff
• 1:10:44
  and you do the same thing with the sheriff and you say, this is on file in the property records office. It's on file with the Secretary of State of The United States and I want to put you so that you can put your your forces on notice that I'm not this person.
• 1:11:02
  Got it?
• 1:11:04
  Got it. Now, you write out a little hold on. Now, you write out a little affidavit that you carry with you.
• 1:11:11
  Should you get stopped by an officer,
• 1:11:14
  you give him that when you sign it. When it reaches the prosecutor,
• 1:11:20
  you'll probably not hear from them again.
• 1:11:26
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:11:30
  Unknown: But you see, this is preemptive.
• 1:11:33
  The way that this stuff works is preemptive
• 1:11:36
  to work best. You can't get in the mess like Chris is in right now fighting the whole damn Clark County, Las Vegas, Nevada who wanna incinerate his butt and pull this out like a magic pill. It doesn't work that way.
• 1:11:51
  It's got to be preemptive.
• 1:11:52
  The ideal candidate for our processes here is the guy that comes with a clean slate.
• 1:12:02
  Is that me? I don't know. Is it?
• 1:12:07
  Unknown: I said I am.
• 1:12:10
  Unknown: Robert did. I think I got Robert with us. Let me see if I can defer to him for a second, Angelo,
• 1:12:15
  and just check his temperature here. Robert, what's going on with you, man?
• 1:12:20
  Unknown: Well, my temperature's pretty good. I don't have any head colds or nothing, but I was just wondering,
• 1:12:25
  that guy who pulled your friend in like the vaudeville show with the cane around the neck? Right.
• 1:12:31
  Unknown: Was his Chuck Perez? I don't think it was, but it could have been. They
• 1:12:37
  they certainly
• 1:12:38
  they
• 1:12:39
  certainly gonged his ass. By the way, Robert, you know, you you're a kind of a game show guy. I think you are. You know who Alex Trebek is. Don't you remember him? Jeopardy?
• 1:12:48
  Unknown: Yeah. He got He's got I thought he brought that up. I was gonna talk to
• 1:12:53
  yeah. I was I was gonna talk to Jim Ram about that. Yeah. Heard about that. Yeah. He's got Stage stage four. No. Stage four pancreatic cancer,
• 1:13:02
  Unknown: which is in essence a death the worst ones to have. It's in essence, it's a death sentence.
• 1:13:08
  Unknown: Could be gonna beat it, though. It doesn't kill everybody, but it it could be. It it it's a booger bear.
• 1:13:15
  Unknown: So
• 1:13:16
  without getting off on the cancer deal, which I could get off on very easily because something's on the tip of my tongue, I don't wanna deviate from Angelo and his question
• 1:13:24
  and his series of questions here. So, Angelo,
• 1:13:27
  you got another one?
• 1:13:31
  Unknown: Okay. So now
• 1:13:33
  it I I get the fine line with that. What I was my next question was gonna be order of operations then as far as the affidavit,
• 1:13:40
  should it be filed with the
• 1:13:42
  the state you said secretary first? No. No. No. No.
• 1:13:46
  Unknown: Let's file it with the big guy.
• 1:13:49
  The big guy is the secretary of state of The United States. That's Now we've we've of got a The US. Yes. Now we've got a great court site that a listener sent me from 1835,
• 1:14:02
  which was a a supreme court case about a passport and about citizenship.
• 1:14:07
  Okay? And I'll kind of quote it to you probably pretty close here.
• 1:14:13
  And it says the passport is an ex
• 1:14:15
  parte
• 1:14:16
  document.
• 1:14:17
  That means separate.
• 1:14:19
  The passport is an ex parte document
• 1:14:22
  which is issued by the secretary
• 1:14:24
  to identify a person,
• 1:14:26
  especially as he's traveling
• 1:14:29
  between nations under the law of nations. It says law of nations in there.
• 1:14:34
  But
• 1:14:35
  this is to be held in a totally different light when it comes to matters of citizenship,
• 1:14:43
  because the citizenship
• 1:14:45
  should be determined
• 1:14:47
  by whatever documentation
• 1:14:49
  the Secretary of State has in his possession,
• 1:14:53
  if admissible in a court of law,
• 1:14:56
  as the higher and better evidence of citizenship.
• 1:15:01
  Where we know now
• 1:15:03
  that it's the paper in possession of the secretary.
• 1:15:06
  It doesn't matter what color your passport is. They all say the same thing, and they all cover both bases.
• 1:15:13
  It's what's in position possession of the secretary
• 1:15:17
  if admissible in a court of law which an affidavit bypasses
• 1:15:21
  all the rules of evidence,
• 1:15:24
  which
• 1:15:25
  should be submitted as a higher and better evidence. That's why you're never going to see them coming after anybody.
• 1:15:31
  That's why nobody in seven years has had any backlash from this.
• 1:15:35
  They don't want any backlash
• 1:15:37
  because you can get that affidavit
• 1:15:39
  into a court of law and it bypasses their rules of evidence, which is how they usually keep stuff out.
• 1:15:48
  Unknown: Got it. Okay. So first order of operations, most important on this agenda is one, get it to the secretary of state
• 1:15:57
  Unknown: and then all the other offices. Correct? And you could send it to the secretary of state of New York and your police guy and file it in the records, but do all that
• 1:16:07
  subsequent to filing it with the secretary of state. That's the first step
• 1:16:12
  because he's the head knocker. Got it. Now I was told let me tell tell Angelo this story, Chris. When we were you know, my teachers were only teaching six months,
• 1:16:22
  and in that first six months, we all learned about this state citizenship stuff. So one of the guys from Nebraska
• 1:16:29
  wrote a letter to the Secretary of State of Nebraska saying, could you send me some kind of a letter or something telling me and stating that I'm a state citizen?
• 1:16:37
  And the guy at the Secretary of State of Nebraska
• 1:16:40
  sent him. It's online. You can find it online. Somebody sent it to me here about a year ago.
• 1:16:45
  Copy of it and it's this beautiful gold embossed. I saw the original. You know, all this flowery stuff in the state of Nebraska and it goes, well, the we proclaim so and so to be a proud Nebraska
• 1:16:59
  state citizen. Well, they started flashing that around and we all wanted one, you know? And so, I'm from Florida. I write the Secretary of State of Florida and say, can you send me this some sort of documentation that I'm a state citizen? Well, he writes me back. He says, sorry, pal. I can't do that because the Secretary of State of The United States has all authority
• 1:17:20
  over all matters of citizenship.
• 1:17:25
  Unknown: And that's when you had an epiphany.
• 1:17:28
  Unknown: Well, no. I didn't, Robert. Unfortunately,
• 1:17:31
  I didn't know enough to be epitomized, epiphomized
• 1:17:35
  because that was very early in this for me and I was still a babe in the woods but let me tell you what, after I school myself up for about fifteen years and then I by necessity,
• 1:17:47
  had to go had to go get a passport application because I was gonna move to Argentina,
• 1:17:53
  and right there at the top of the page is the answer I've been looking for for fifteen years.
• 1:18:01
  Unknown: Is that what you discussed in Serf and Sovereignty Yes. Presentation
• 1:18:05
  Unknown: that you did with Thomas? Yeah, kinda. I don't know that I went into that story, but what happened was my brain
• 1:18:12
  had absorbed that sentence from that letter in 1993,
• 1:18:17
  and it sat there dormant
• 1:18:20
  for twenty years until I picked up a passport application,
• 1:18:24
  and at the top, it says, United States.
• 1:18:27
  Boom. Secretary
• 1:18:28
  of state of The United States, passport application,
• 1:18:32
  and right at the top of that form was the warning box.
• 1:18:36
  And it says, you can attach documentation.
• 1:18:38
  Yeah. You can attach documentation,
• 1:18:40
  comma, including affidavits.
• 1:18:43
  And when I saw the word affidavit,
• 1:18:46
  I connected it, Robert, in my mind to that letter from the secretary of state.
• 1:18:53
  Unknown: Was the official moment.
• 1:18:55
  Unknown: K. That was in 2007,
• 1:18:57
  in about July
• 1:18:58
  2007.
• 1:19:02
  And I mean, listen. Okay. When I saw that word affidavit
• 1:19:06
  in that warning box, I knew I had them.
• 1:19:12
  Unknown: Here's
• 1:19:13
  a little back Remember,
• 1:19:15
  an affidavit in law
• 1:19:17
  stands
• 1:19:19
  unrebutted
• 1:19:20
  as the highest form of proof.
• 1:19:23
  And an unrebutted affidavit becomes proof
• 1:19:26
  unrebuttable.
• 1:19:28
  And so it becomes documentary,
• 1:19:30
  testamentary evidence
• 1:19:32
  beyond reproach.
• 1:19:33
  And when you place it with the secretary of state who is the final determiner
• 1:19:38
  of political statuses in America
• 1:19:40
  pursuant to the Hell's law of nations,
• 1:19:43
  it becomes
• 1:19:45
  documentary
• 1:19:46
  Unknown: irrefutable evidence. And see, they've done this with fraud. And
• 1:19:51
  and like Chris is saying, they've they've done fraud to get this to this point. And now that affidavit
• 1:19:57
  exposes the fraud. That's why they can't rebut it or do anything about it. We've put these people in a corner and checkmated them
• 1:20:05
  and they've also, when you think about it, Angelo, because they can't respond and this illustrates these crimes, they've also convicted themselves even without going in front of a jury, haven't they?
• 1:20:19
  Unknown: If they do respond, yes, they will. No. No. If they don't respond.
• 1:20:24
  Unknown: They're they're they're they shows it shows the fraud,
• 1:20:28
  and they can't rebut it. They've proven themselves guilty
• 1:20:32
  by not being able to respond.
• 1:20:37
  Unknown: Oh, okay.
• 1:20:40
  Unknown: And you'll find that in US versus Wheel,
• 1:20:44
  t w e e l, and Horton are prudent,
• 1:20:48
  which says
• 1:20:49
  when a material question is asked and an answer is expected,
• 1:20:54
  failure to respond is
• 1:20:56
  tacit admission of the facts alleged.
• 1:21:00
  Unknown: You know where that came from? Angelo, you probably don't because I know I didn't until somebody told us. Here's comes Doug calling in. Okay.
• 1:21:08
  Doug, I'll call you right back.
• 1:21:10
  It came from Henry the eighth.
• 1:21:13
  When he had compiled
• 1:21:15
  a dossier basically,
• 1:21:17
  a research paper on the monasteries of England because he was fighting with the Catholic church
• 1:21:23
  and he got all the Catholic bishops
• 1:21:26
  outside of London into one place and he started coming up and accusing them and telling them what they were going to do and what they weren't going to do and in that talk to them, he made some statements, and he said silence deems consent.
• 1:21:40
  That's where it came from.
• 1:21:44
  Unknown: Oh, okay. Now I get the silence deems consent part. That basically means by their silence, pretty much
• 1:21:50
  the checkmates the whole ordeal. Yep. That's
• 1:21:54
  Unknown: why nobody in seven years has had any blowback. In the seven years I've been teaching this and having people do it, I have no idea how many people have submitted affidavits,
• 1:22:03
  but not one piece of blowback
• 1:22:06
  on anyone have I ever heard of.
• 1:22:09
  And I gotta think I'd be one of the first to on it.
• 1:22:13
  Unknown: Doggone it. I'm gonna do it. And my question that was gonna lead up to that was, now my driver's license coming up expired coming up this August, so do I renew it or not? That's my next question. I I would renew it, and I'd go ahead and bite the bullet and take care of the process the other way we discussed preemptively.
• 1:22:35
  Because I was taking care of the process today.
• 1:22:38
  Unknown: I have some what maybe help
• 1:22:41
  intel on that. Okay, Chris. Shoot.
• 1:22:44
  Well,
• 1:22:45
  you may get some blowback potentially. It happened in some instance, but if you can always preserve your rights by inserting words to the effect that I
• 1:22:56
  preserve all absolute natural
• 1:22:59
  rights.
• 1:22:59
  That would be capital n natural and capital r rights because they come from the creator
• 1:23:04
  above your name. Every time they want your name on a document, it's an offer to contract,
• 1:23:10
  and the contract must be agreed to by both parties with fully disclosed terms.
• 1:23:15
  So when you take that contract, then there might be onerous language in there like US citizen that you might want to strike with a single line through it and initials on both sides,
• 1:23:26
  but be sure to preserve all your absolute natural rights explicitly
• 1:23:31
  on the line above your autograph, not a signature because you don't wanna put a spell on your name by using an evil sign.
• 1:23:38
  But But there might be some salient thing, and you might want to provide that affidavit with your driver's license application
• 1:23:44
  Unknown: if they afford you that opportunity. Well, if you suggestion. If you if you give them the if you give them the affidavit with the trying to get a driver's license, what we've learned out in Idaho already.
• 1:23:57
  Are you familiar with that story,
• 1:23:59
  Angelo?
• 1:24:03
  Unknown: I'm not sure. I heard a few things different things on that call with Thomas Maddox. Okay. Well, this is this is this
• 1:24:09
  Unknown: is a Texas guy. I would suggest you go back. You know, we've got about three months or so of shows
• 1:24:16
  over on Castbox,
• 1:24:18
  c a s t, cast like a rod.
• 1:24:20
  Castbox.fm.
• 1:24:23
  Put castbox.fm,
• 1:24:26
  and go to the search engine and put Radio Ranch in, two words,
• 1:24:30
  and all my programs for the last I several months will pop
• 1:24:34
  highly suggest you listen to the December 5 program.
• 1:24:41
  Okay.
• 1:24:42
  Unknown: That is That was my 12/05/2018?
• 1:24:44
  Unknown: Correct.
• 1:24:45
  And that's my student, He's Brian
• 1:24:48
  a Texas boy down there with Thomas and them that
• 1:24:52
  Okay. Took this to the wall in Idaho
• 1:24:56
  and tried to get a I'll non resident state issued driver's
• 1:25:02
  let him tell the story.
• 1:25:04
  It's in the first part of that recording,
• 1:25:06
  and it went all the way up to the director of transportation
• 1:25:10
  of the state of Idaho, the head guy,
• 1:25:12
  who would not sign one thing he sent back to us and played all kinds of games,
• 1:25:17
  and he basically went backed into a corner and said, We can't issue a state issued driver's license to anyone who's not a resident.
• 1:25:28
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:25:31
  K.
• 1:25:32
  Unknown: So
• 1:25:34
  go ahead.
• 1:25:35
  Your
• 1:25:37
  affidavit,
• 1:25:39
  and if you've got the other stuff on file with the police and whatnot, should cover you because you don't wanna go around there without a driver's license and risk one of these low IQ guys they're hiring in the police departments
• 1:25:52
  who you're gonna try and put an argument up of and he's gonna end up doing something bad to you. We don't want that to happen. Better
• 1:25:59
  to have the other stuff done ahead of time,
• 1:26:02
  write out an affidavit that you always carry with you in a car, and should you do a traffic
• 1:26:08
  interference or whatever,
• 1:26:10
  sign the ticket, but attach that affidavit to it. When that gets back to the prosecutor,
• 1:26:15
  now you go to the prosecutor and say, this affidavit's on file with the secretary of state. It's on file in the property records office. I gave a copy to your your boss, the sheriff.
• 1:26:27
  They're not gonna prosecute they're not gonna prosecute that case.
• 1:26:32
  You sure? Okay. I would just about bet my life on it, Robert.
• 1:26:39
  Because
• 1:26:40
  the prosecutor
• 1:26:42
  here's why. The prosecutor,
• 1:26:44
  if you've got that thing on file with the secretary of state and you've done all that other stuff, he knows you're not a resident a citizen of The United States, and the traffic laws are all written for those people. How's he gonna overcome that?
• 1:26:59
  Unknown: There's immunity there.
• 1:27:02
  Unknown: That's a that's a very good
• 1:27:04
  that's a very good question. Okay. How would he overcome that? He can't.
• 1:27:08
  Unknown: Just the reason the secretary of state's office can't overcome it.
• 1:27:14
  Unknown: Oh, by the way, Rodney, did you read me lines, please? Yeah. Pretty good.
• 1:27:18
  Unknown: Okay. You're calling in on the phone. Yeah.
• 1:27:23
  Unknown: The only reason I call on Skype is because it's a better connection I thought and a cleaner connection but if you can hear me fine this way, I'll just do it this way. Okay and and see, when you call in, you've got a phone profile and a Skype profile,
• 1:27:36
  Unknown: and I never know which one to call you back on.
• 1:27:40
  Unknown: Oh, okay. Alright. I'll just I'll just call the 404 number. Okay. Well, we'll we'll muddle. Listen,
• 1:27:46
  Unknown: we'll muddle through it somehow, man. I mean, you know, this isn't this
• 1:27:50
  isn't that type of a program. We're pretty damned informal around here if you hadn't noticed. Angelo, you got more questions?
• 1:27:59
  Unknown: I'm thinking here.
• 1:28:01
  I'm sure I'm going to have many more going forward in the future, definitely. Well, good. Because you're an active you know, type type A personality
• 1:28:10
  Unknown: and you want to call in here and get em answered.
• 1:28:12
  I'm going to absolutely encourage you as you go through this to do that and call in and and because this is my favorite type of a show to do, honestly.
• 1:28:24
  Because this is why the program exists. Listen, the program the program exists
• 1:28:29
  for this exchange
• 1:28:31
  right here.
• 1:28:34
  Now,
• 1:28:36
  we got one of our good students that's joined us. Hey, Bob. Hadn't heard from you in a few days. How you doing?
• 1:28:42
  Unknown: One, two. Starting to feel bad. Like, maybe I didn't think I loved you anymore.
• 1:28:47
  Unknown: I thought I was thinking that. To Angelo. That that hear your voice. That thought crossed my mind.
• 1:28:54
  I'm very insecure.
• 1:28:55
  I'm very insecure like that.
• 1:29:00
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, we all have our faults. You know?
• 1:29:03
  Oh, I I
• 1:29:05
  I heard you working on that '19 1835
• 1:29:08
  case, and I just didn't help myself.
• 1:29:10
  Her.
• 1:29:13
  Unknown: He he's he's gonna come in he's gonna come in here and pick some nets, Angelo. This guy's a real nitpicker. Pick some nets. We like picking nets.
• 1:29:22
  Unknown: That's alright.
• 1:29:24
  Unknown: Yeah. I think Doug joined us too, and I got distracted. So, Doug's sitting back there.
• 1:29:29
  Don't get offended because I didn't recognize y'all. I'll get to you in a second. Go ahead, Bob.
• 1:29:36
  Well, actually, I'll just need out. I was just going to call in and make sure you realize I have died. No, good. I'm good to hear from you, man. I were, I wonder about you guys when I don't hear from you but. I just. I know that people drift in and out of this, you know? So, the only one that's gotta be consistent here is me.
• 1:29:54
  Unknown: Well, here's the deal.
• 1:29:56
  I'm I'm in a piece of equipment here the last couple of weeks, and if I stop, everything else stops. So I kinda kinda just keep running, and it's awful loud. So Yeah. I'm just gonna mute out and let you guys go at it. Okay. Well, let me go back and recognize our good listener from Northwest Arkansas. Mister Doug, how are you?
• 1:30:14
  Unknown: I'm
• 1:30:16
  I'm doing
• 1:30:17
  okay.
• 1:30:18
  Good. I'm I'm
• 1:30:20
  having a little
• 1:30:22
  ankle issue here. So, I I'm able to be here instead of out there working
• 1:30:28
  to
• 1:30:30
  feed myself.
• 1:30:32
  Unknown: But anyway, all things are provided. Doug? Yes, No. I'm very personally familiar with ankle issues here lately.
• 1:30:41
  Unknown: Yeah. You are. Well, I thought of you today.
• 1:30:44
  You know, I thought maybe I'm getting some, emotional,
• 1:30:48
  you know, connection to what Roger is going through.
• 1:30:52
  I just woke up in bed one day on Monday, and it was like, what the heck? You know, I hadn't done anything
• 1:30:58
  that I could remember that was
• 1:31:01
  related to it. But anyway,
• 1:31:03
  so I had the time here. And, you know, when I
• 1:31:09
  when I think about Bob, you know, you always try to put a face on people.
• 1:31:14
  So I see a guy with no arms and legs in a swimming pool.
• 1:31:22
  Unknown: I've heard that one before.
• 1:31:25
  Unknown: What do what do you talk about? What was his legs laying on the ground?
• 1:31:29
  Unknown: Well, the first thing that makes me laugh is because I just recently
• 1:31:33
  saw a picture of Bob after we've had this relationship on the air for a couple of years,
• 1:31:38
  and he didn't look anything like I expected him to look like. I'm a tell you right out front, Doug.
• 1:31:45
  But he did have arms. He did but no. Now hold it. Let me give a let me give an antidote. He did have arms and legs. Okay.
• 1:31:54
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:31:55
  Unknown: But was he in a swimming pool? No. He was in a he was a room. He was in a room with other listeners.
• 1:32:04
  Unknown: Okay. Similar reaction you saw in my picture. I
• 1:32:07
  Unknown: just about fell out of my chair when I saw your picture, buddy.
• 1:32:13
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm sure you did.
• 1:32:18
  Unknown: Oh, most of the audio well, most the audience can't appreciate that. I know Angelo can't. Angelo Robert is a black guy.
• 1:32:26
  And here he'd been listening, calling in, talking, all that. I can appreciate it. And he says, here, I'm gonna send you a picture, man. He's propped there in his elbow on his cab.
• 1:32:37
  Unknown: So
• 1:32:40
  okay. So what do you call a guy with no arms and no legs laying on the ground?
• 1:32:45
  Doug.
• 1:32:48
  Unknown: I forget.
• 1:32:50
  Help me.
• 1:32:53
  Unknown: Matt.
• 1:32:55
  Yeah. Exactly.
• 1:33:01
  Unknown: Okay. We're Isn't it isn't it wonderful?
• 1:33:04
  Isn't it wonderful to deal with such a serious subject and to bring in humor
• 1:33:10
  into it to show how lighthearted we are because we know we're ultimately
• 1:33:15
  winning in a sense. Okay? It may not ultimately
• 1:33:19
  look like that, but one but truth is a two edged sword, so it just cut.
• 1:33:25
  Unknown: Well, you know, Doug right.
• 1:33:27
  It's
• 1:33:28
  somewhat depends on whether you're looking.
• 1:33:31
  Unknown: Me
• 1:33:32
  Yeah. You got him bobbing in a pool? Me to take it off of music.
• 1:33:36
  You know,
• 1:33:37
  what I what I what I talked about.
• 1:33:41
  Unknown: I
• 1:33:42
  Unknown: mean, okay. You were in the essence of life, gentlemen. We're What do you call a quadriplegic?
• 1:33:46
  Unknown: What
• 1:33:47
  yeah. What do you call a quadriplegic in a hole?
• 1:33:52
  Unknown: Screwed?
• 1:33:54
  Phil. What do you call a quadriplegic on the wall?
• 1:33:59
  Art.
• 1:34:01
  Unknown: I could keep going. Exactly.
• 1:34:03
  Unknown: Don't.
• 1:34:04
  Unknown: Don't, Bob. Yeah. You're chairman of the big one. Like that.
• 1:34:08
  Unknown: Doug, do you see what you started?
• 1:34:14
  Unknown: Hey. We we always need to lighten our heart in these serious situations.
• 1:34:19
  Unknown: Humor is the essence of life. That's what I've always said. It is. You're right. We and it's good that we can have some humor. What I was going to make a point to Doug's statement was does it mean, see,
• 1:34:29
  personally,
• 1:34:31
  individually,
• 1:34:32
  we do this all individually. We benefit from it individually. Now, collectively, we benefit when other people join us because it makes us all stronger, Angelo. So, that's why we welcome folks like you with an open arm, okay?
• 1:34:45
  And but collectively,
• 1:34:48
  Unknown: we don't win this Are you saying he only has one arm? No. No. No.
• 1:34:54
  Unknown: We
• 1:34:56
  don't win except as our small group because evidently, we're supposed to be the remnant, Angelo is what it appears.
• 1:35:04
  Unknown: I get you.
• 1:35:08
  Unknown: So, anyway, I just wanted to ask that. Go ahead, sir. Continue
• 1:35:12
  Unknown: here Yes. You may. To get back into legal stuff.
• 1:35:16
  I
• 1:35:17
  used to, years ago, back around 2000 or so, I was doing a lot of personal court cases
• 1:35:24
  here
• 1:35:25
  in Arkansas
• 1:35:27
  both in the district court
• 1:35:29
  and in the county court
• 1:35:31
  and
• 1:35:34
  I and
• 1:35:35
  from my learning a little bit before that, I used to qualify my signature
• 1:35:41
  with
• 1:35:43
  acronyms such as
• 1:35:45
  Tdc,
• 1:35:46
  okay?
• 1:35:47
  That I was saying that I'll sign this but I'm signing it under.
• 1:35:57
  Uh-uh.
• 1:35:59
  Well,
• 1:36:00
  was duress,
• 1:36:02
  threat,
• 1:36:03
  and coercion. Yes. Yes.
• 1:36:06
  Yeah. Duress, threat, and coercion
• 1:36:09
  and then there was another one I used to use which was just ARR, alright to reserve.
• 1:36:16
  And every once in a while, trying to open bank accounts without a social security number, I opened a number of them and then, you know, a couple of months later, they'd come back and close out my account.
• 1:36:29
  But I would sign them all right for you and
• 1:36:32
  so that's that. Okay. Now, this new one that
• 1:36:37
  Chris brought up was all
• 1:36:42
  our
• 1:36:43
  right
• 1:36:45
  natural rights reserved, that that kind of thing.
• 1:36:51
  The real reason I I initially called in, but this thing goes so fast. Your show goes so fast. It is like, okay. I'm making more notes now.
• 1:37:00
  And,
• 1:37:01
  here's
• 1:37:03
  the,
• 1:37:04
  contribution,
• 1:37:05
  and I don't know if it is that or not, but and I don't know if you know the answer to this. I just couldn't remember,
• 1:37:12
  the the
• 1:37:13
  specifics of it, Chris May.
• 1:37:15
  But there was I remember,
• 1:37:17
  you know, I still have my fourth,
• 1:37:20
  edition of,
• 1:37:22
  blacks here, and I use that a lot and studied a lot of case law and everything way back then.
• 1:37:29
  And, there's
• 1:37:31
  something I just couldn't remember,
• 1:37:34
  what it's called,
• 1:37:35
  but it's where you put in an impossible
• 1:37:38
  position.
• 1:37:40
  Okay?
• 1:37:41
  And for survival's
• 1:37:42
  sake, you go ahead and sign something or write something.
• 1:37:47
  And
• 1:37:48
  so
• 1:37:49
  when
• 1:37:51
  if if, like, in this case, the I think it's the I nine doctrine
• 1:37:56
  or form
• 1:37:57
  there,
• 1:37:59
  you could
• 1:38:01
  you you might add that. I never actually used it, but I was aware of it,
• 1:38:06
  and it just I just never had to pull the trigger to use that because I had so much other stuff,
• 1:38:13
  that was,
• 1:38:16
  really
• 1:38:17
  applicable. It was on the target. You know? So
• 1:38:22
  Unknown: can you comment on that, Roger? I'd love to. I'd love to indeed because this originally came up on this topic when you're talking about driver's license, okay?
• 1:38:31
  The guy that follows me, Angelo, is a guy named Jim Ram
• 1:38:35
  and he's a retired police officer from Ohio.
• 1:38:40
  Jim was telling us a story on he went in to do his driver's license there in Ohio, and somehow he got that disclaimer
• 1:38:49
  under or above his signature,
• 1:38:51
  and it came out on the driver's license with that disclaimer on there.
• 1:38:57
  About
• 1:38:59
  three weeks later,
• 1:39:01
  the Department of Motor Vehicles contacted him and said, You gotta change that,
• 1:39:06
  And he ignored them, and they finally sent an officer out to his house to get it.
• 1:39:13
  So
• 1:39:15
  don't think you're gonna be slipping that through on your driver's license. It's my point.
• 1:39:21
  Unknown: And a connection, Roger, to to this
• 1:39:25
  is
• 1:39:27
  the
• 1:39:29
  comparison
• 1:39:32
  between
• 1:39:33
  what you signed
• 1:39:34
  at one time and then correcting your status. Okay?
• 1:39:38
  And you can't
• 1:39:41
  if
• 1:39:41
  if this
• 1:39:43
  is done under
• 1:39:46
  not only
• 1:39:47
  misnomers,
• 1:39:48
  okay, like making
• 1:39:50
  I've I've done so many things where I write my full name
• 1:39:55
  in
• 1:39:56
  upper and lower case,
• 1:39:58
  and then the documents I got I get back is all uppercase.
• 1:40:02
  Okay? It's a it's a misnomer,
• 1:40:05
  and there's an application of law that deals with that just like there is.
• 1:40:09
  I notified the banks that did this to me and notified
• 1:40:14
  the
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  utility
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  companies
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  that the usage of a Social Security number
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  is a $10,000
• 1:40:22
  fine and so many years in jail.
• 1:40:25
  They don't care because they're operating in that system and they know they have the courts and everybody backing them up. But you put it on file,
• 1:40:34
  you do that, and it's still there.
• 1:40:37
  It's in the documents and it and you always get hard copies of everything you file
• 1:40:43
  responses
• 1:40:44
  if it is
• 1:40:46
  an affirmative if you can get an affirmative response. But my question still is this issue of
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  being put into a position
• 1:40:56
  because of survival. Like, you need a you need to be able to drive.
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  So
• 1:41:03
  in that situation,
• 1:41:06
  when they force you that you have to really
• 1:41:11
  break
• 1:41:12
  laws or go against your
• 1:41:16
  what you believe is a correct status,
• 1:41:19
  etcetera,
• 1:41:20
  freedom,
• 1:41:22
  that
• 1:41:23
  you can
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  claim that,
• 1:41:26
  that you were put in a position
• 1:41:28
  of impossibility
• 1:41:31
  with no,
• 1:41:32
  recourse.
• 1:41:33
  Unknown: And that's what basically, you could put that in your cover letter to the sheriff, Angelo.
• 1:41:41
  Unknown: So what would I it would basically state
• 1:41:44
  can
• 1:41:45
  we
• 1:41:45
  Unknown: break it down into as simplest term here? I would start off the letter by saying I've recently filed this with the Secretary of the State of the United States and I have no objection.
• 1:41:55
  I wanted to make sure that you had also been put on notice as to my new status.
• 1:42:04
  I will not subject myself potentially to some type of misunderstanding
• 1:42:08
  on the side of a road,
• 1:42:10
  so therefore I'm going to go ahead and get a driver's license but it does not represent my true status that this affidavit
• 1:42:19
  in being presented to you represents
• 1:42:21
  that. That's something to that effect, I think, right off the cuff.
• 1:42:26
  Unknown: And I might add that,
• 1:42:28
  because
• 1:42:30
  you were under
• 1:42:31
  a,
• 1:42:33
  a belief
• 1:42:34
  that,
• 1:42:37
  the
• 1:42:38
  as the whatever statute,
• 1:42:40
  whatever
• 1:42:41
  was,
• 1:42:42
  how it was written
• 1:42:44
  that you were under the belief that it was,
• 1:42:47
  lawful,
• 1:42:48
  etcetera.
• 1:42:49
  And now you've learned that it wasn't,
• 1:42:53
  so it was fraud.
• 1:42:55
  So therefore,
• 1:42:56
  now you're claiming or you're,
• 1:43:00
  stating
• 1:43:01
  a correction
• 1:43:02
  to, due to,
• 1:43:04
  fraud
• 1:43:05
  and,
• 1:43:06
  misrepresentation
• 1:43:09
  that this was the only way things were
• 1:43:12
  that
• 1:43:13
  this is your corrected
• 1:43:16
  affidavit statement.
• 1:43:18
  Unknown: Something like that. Here, one of my better students,
• 1:43:21
  Angelo,
• 1:43:22
  has joined us. And, Darryl, you must have something to weigh in on this.
• 1:43:27
  Welcome, by the way. Yeah. The
• 1:43:31
  Unknown: hi. Hi, everybody.
• 1:43:32
  Just
• 1:43:33
  just briefly here, the words you're looking for are untenable
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  and odious.
• 1:43:39
  Yeah.
• 1:43:40
  It's untenable
• 1:43:42
  and odious.
• 1:43:45
  That's those are the words.
• 1:43:47
  They work,
• 1:43:49
  and they they have
• 1:43:52
  they have a certain amount of force with them and you can look them up and you'll you'll see that they apply.
• 1:43:57
  So if you're looking for you know some some language.
• 1:44:04
  And
• 1:44:05
  on this other matter
• 1:44:08
  as far as the birth of the Social Security number goes,
• 1:44:12
  that
• 1:44:14
  applies to
• 1:44:17
  tracking.
• 1:44:18
  They use that to track all your commercial activity that is either digital or check.
• 1:44:24
  It has a number of purposes but
• 1:44:27
  they absolutely
• 1:44:28
  use it and it ties to the bonds
• 1:44:33
  and they use it to assess your account
• 1:44:36
  and and continue to fractionally
• 1:44:39
  expand your account
• 1:44:41
  in the in the bonds.
• 1:44:43
  And they do that. You can go on
• 1:44:47
  everybody could do a simple search off of DuckDuckGo
• 1:44:50
  or Bing.
• 1:44:51
  I never used the other one and
• 1:44:54
  you can type in
• 1:44:56
  Numident.
• 1:44:58
  That's n u m I
• 1:45:01
  d e n t.
• 1:45:03
  This is a very sophisticated program that has been put in place since the sixties. It used to run on tape. Now it runs on servers,
• 1:45:12
  and they they track all your commercial activity. So you've been
• 1:45:15
  you've been you've been
• 1:45:17
  watched financially your whole life, and they use Pneumadent
• 1:45:21
  Unknown: to do it. Yeah. And it's tied into your Social Security. So Somebody a guy called me. Remember the guy that worked for the agencies that got ahold of us with Skype?
• 1:45:31
  He got ahold of me about a week ago and sent me a site, and he said, put your put your Social Security number in there. It was a very been around the organization forty years or so. I don't remember the name of it. I didn't do it. I told him I was a little uncomfortable with it and we're supposed to be getting that information but I don't think we've gotten it yet
• 1:45:48
  But there's some sort of a tracking way. What I wanted to Daryl,
• 1:45:52
  Daryl's got quite a background, Angelo,
• 1:45:55
  and I wanted to since you've joined us, Daryl, you got any words of encouragement or insight for Angelo? Obviously, you've heard the preceding part of the program.
• 1:46:06
  Unknown: I I I've had bits and pieces. I've been in and out because I'm kinda covered up here, but,
• 1:46:12
  yeah.
• 1:46:15
  Let's see. Words of encouragement.
• 1:46:17
  Unknown: Well, our insight We didn't know enough. Insight, you know, you've learned see, this guy bought the book, filed an affidavit, did all kind of stuff, Angelo, for I heard you heard from him the first time.
• 1:46:30
  Unknown: I'm gonna get the book. I swear, Roger. I'm gonna learn, man. I'm gonna be one of these individuals that are gonna take action on this. And I'm like I said, when I called in, I'm fed up. I really am. I'm I'm tired of it. I'm not gonna deal with it no more. I want my wife out of indentured servitude and everything else as far as I'm concerned. Well, god bless you, and you found a home, and we'll be happy to answer any questions that we can for you.
• 1:46:56
  I appreciate that. I do have a question, though.
• 1:46:59
  Okay. Shoot. What I I want I want Daryl to consider, though, first. Continue,
• 1:47:04
  Unknown: please. Oh, continue, Daryl.
• 1:47:07
  Unknown: Oh, all I would say is
• 1:47:11
  it's a
• 1:47:13
  it's a a very
• 1:47:16
  admirable
• 1:47:17
  quality
• 1:47:19
  to have this talk to your heart and your spirit.
• 1:47:22
  And as you move through it, you'll find that
• 1:47:26
  in order to be
• 1:47:30
  effective in it,
• 1:47:32
  it will naturally require
• 1:47:35
  and become obvious to you, you have to change your life. Your life changes.
• 1:47:40
  Okay.
• 1:47:41
  Yeah. And you have what the things that you associate with,
• 1:47:46
  do,
• 1:47:47
  involve, and engage yourself in will have to change.
• 1:47:51
  Otherwise,
• 1:47:52
  you will be
• 1:47:55
  sucked back into the system.
• 1:47:58
  And
• 1:47:59
  so
• 1:48:00
  I that's what that's how that's how I've coped with it up to this point. It's worked very well.
• 1:48:07
  But I I have had to literally disassociate
• 1:48:10
  myself from many things that other people would consider normal activity.
• 1:48:14
  So
• 1:48:15
  Unknown: Oh, Angela, we and What what happens here is as you go through it, let me stress this to you. I stress it all the time here. This is not an event. It's not something that happened that's going to change your life dramatically from this phone call today. It's a process and you're probably going to be going through the process for the rest of your life
• 1:48:36
  And what it is, the process is this,
• 1:48:39
  they've done this by double mindedness,
• 1:48:42
  attaching opposite definitions
• 1:48:45
  to words and concepts.
• 1:48:47
  Therefore, concepts.
• 1:48:48
  And so what happens now that you know what the game is, as you go forward, you're gonna hit all these words and you go into your own mind and untie them, and every time you untie one of those knots, you get a little more slice of consciousness.
• 1:49:04
  And it's a process, and it empowers you and gives you back all the power that your creator meant for you to have when you were conceived.
• 1:49:14
  Unknown: That's it. And a great analogy to that is I've been learning a musical instrument all my life since playing for about forty years, but every now and then, you come across something that your teacher told you you didn't understand back then. Yep. The Max Truck runs over you at the epitome
• 1:49:27
  Unknown: of that moment. That's exactly correct. It's perspective, See? And you didn't have enough information to fully understand it until that point.
• 1:49:37
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:49:38
  I totally get it. I I and it's gonna be an ongoing process to fight for my freedom, but at the same time is it's not only one thing. It's like the knowledge is power thing. Okay. Knowledge is power, but if only if it's applied. If it's if it's activated, if if you don't do anything with it, it just sits there. Okay? Action is the keyword here. Now the the process is once you get the basic knowledge and you take the action and file that affidavit,
• 1:50:04
  Unknown: then on, you take your stance as you move forward through different circumstances.
• 1:50:09
  Now, you know what you are.
• 1:50:11
  It fits in with all of their nomenclature.
• 1:50:14
  So, they ask you these questions. Are you a citizen of The United States or a resident? No. No.
• 1:50:19
  If they ask you what you are, you always respond with their nomenclature,
• 1:50:24
  a US national. Don't be one of these guys that's going around, I'm a sovereign citizen because that's gonna get the FBI called on you and we don't want that, okay? Use their nomenclature.
• 1:50:36
  The the fact that we understand what they've done, how they've done it, because they had to keep the old system in there and we can use those words is the key to the matrix.
• 1:50:48
  Unknown: We're rolling the dice at their own game. Exactly.
• 1:50:51
  Unknown: See? And every time you deal with one of these guys and you get what you want and they react the way you want them to do, you become further empowered.
• 1:51:01
  Now instead of dreading
• 1:51:03
  going to deal with government officials,
• 1:51:05
  you almost can't wait to get to the next one.
• 1:51:09
  Empowerment. You're ready for them. Empowerment.
• 1:51:12
  It's empowerment.
• 1:51:13
  You're becoming re empowered.
• 1:51:15
  Unknown: That's what's happening. You're ready for that next musical gig. Yep.
• 1:51:19
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:51:21
  So so here's here's where here's where a little scripture jumps in.
• 1:51:25
  We're
• 1:51:27
  we're told to
• 1:51:29
  be
• 1:51:29
  wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
• 1:51:32
  And
• 1:51:33
  and and you need to be harmless
• 1:51:36
  and and
• 1:51:38
  and
• 1:51:40
  don't poke the bear in the eye.
• 1:51:42
  And
• 1:51:43
  Or shoot the fish in the barrel. So
• 1:51:48
  and and then it's it's also important
• 1:51:51
  to realize that
• 1:51:55
  you shouldn't
• 1:51:56
  I I would
• 1:51:58
  I would counsel everybody, including myself, not to make long term decisions off of short term indications
• 1:52:04
  and and and proceed
• 1:52:07
  and do it with wisdom and caution
• 1:52:10
  and understand
• 1:52:12
  that
• 1:52:14
  it it all continues to
• 1:52:17
  evolve
• 1:52:18
  your understanding
• 1:52:20
  and
• 1:52:21
  you literally
• 1:52:23
  are on the cusp of something great and that you'll
• 1:52:27
  I would highly recommend
• 1:52:29
  taking the time
• 1:52:31
  to learn
• 1:52:33
  and internalize
• 1:52:36
  law.
• 1:52:37
  Okay? Not to become an attorney or a lawyer,
• 1:52:40
  but to under form under get to the point where you actually, in real time, when you're looking at different agencies, municipal,
• 1:52:47
  federal, and state, and jurisdictions,
• 1:52:50
  who you're actually looking at and who these people really are and what kind of law it is and and who they're representing
• 1:52:57
  and you'll find out that that most of this stuff is being represented by.
• 1:53:02
  The British
• 1:53:04
  and the city of London
• 1:53:06
  and also
• 1:53:08
  municipal
• 1:53:10
  jurisdictions are under Rome.
• 1:53:12
  And so you're under civil law,
• 1:53:14
  Jecivil.
• 1:53:16
  And this is basically what all your municipalities
• 1:53:18
  are.
• 1:53:19
  And you are a Roman citizen.
• 1:53:23
  And every time you
• 1:53:26
  come in contact with something called civil,
• 1:53:30
  you're in Rome,
• 1:53:32
  which alien
• 1:53:34
  which is alien to you.
• 1:53:36
  And and you start to you start to see your friends, family, relatives, and neighbors as agents.
• 1:53:44
  And
• 1:53:45
  and so
• 1:53:47
  be be careful.
• 1:53:49
  Be careful.
• 1:53:51
  Unknown: And and and be wise. Learn. Learn a lot. Well, I'm always really encouraged when we get new people on, and I love going over this basic stuff, and I'll bet everybody on the line here agrees.
• 1:54:01
  You cannot hear these basics too many times.
• 1:54:07
  I get it. Yeah. So in other words, they wanna level out the playing field. Yep. Well, no. The yeah. It's level now. It's unleveled because we got the high ground now. They've gotta overcome us with common law,
• 1:54:19
  and they that's what they this whole thing is about to get away from that.
• 1:54:24
  Unknown: Do you wanna expose them before their peers?
• 1:54:27
  Yep. Do you wanna expose the their game of fraud and say, hey. You know, I know it. Don't worry. I'm not gonna go and say nothing if you leave me alone. Well, you know, they're doing a pretty good job of exposing their fraud themselves these days. The agenda's gotten so out of whack.
• 1:54:43
  Unknown: One other one other thing I would roll out Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Five people talking at once. Daryl?
• 1:54:49
  Unknown: Sorry.
• 1:54:51
  Yeah. One other thing I would recommend to
• 1:54:53
  if anybody who's listening and doesn't have it it, and particularly the
• 1:54:57
  the new
• 1:54:59
  the new soldiers,
• 1:55:00
  is
• 1:55:01
  if you don't have one, get a Black's Law Dictionary.
• 1:55:04
  Get it. Don't spend the money. Get a used one. Buy a used get a Black's Black's Law Law dictionary. Dictionary. One Doug's the got
• 1:55:12
  Unknown: fourth is a real good one.
• 1:55:16
  Yeah. Okay. Does it matter what edition? Yes. That's what I said. His is the fourth. The sixth is also pretty good. I don't know if I'd go further than that.
• 1:55:27
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean, George between four and six.
• 1:55:31
  Unknown: And the third is good too, but the
• 1:55:34
  thing I wanted to say is this is warfare.
• 1:55:38
  It is. And to back up
• 1:55:40
  to what Daryl said
• 1:55:43
  is if you're gonna become a master of anything,
• 1:55:48
  basketball,
• 1:55:49
  warfare,
• 1:55:50
  etcetera.
• 1:55:52
  It's always you have to stick to the basics all the time. Yep. Okay. Like in basketball, you gotta learn how to dribble. You gotta be a good dribbler.
• 1:56:01
  I was really short basketball
• 1:56:03
  Unknown: player, so I used to use the hook shot. That's what I developed to sink my back. Well, I'm gonna hook You have to do that, and it's and it's all about basics. Well, I'm gonna practice I'm gonna practice my hook shot and get my cane out and yank you off, Doug. Because we're right at the end of the program,
• 1:56:22
  but I will say to listen in tomorrow, Angelo,
• 1:56:25
  because we got Brent Winters tomorrow,
• 1:56:27
  who are just excellent cohost on Friday. You'll learn a lot from. And as Brent said,
• 1:56:33
  when you learn the basics,
• 1:56:36
  anything is easy.
• 1:56:38
  Learn the basics. We'll school you. Yeah, I'm going to hook Brent in tomorrow. Get get about eleven. Stupid. That's right. So, we'll try and do that and go over it and school you up real good, Angelo and I really appreciate you calling in today and we've really enjoyed the discussion. I think everybody has. So, we'll be back tomorrow with Brent. Can you answer the one final question? No, because we're out of times.
• 1:57:00
  Do you but we'll be back next week. We'll be back next week. Yep. Yep. You're welcome to call in tomorrow. I'll see y'all then. Brent will be with us. Have a great day, and thanks for your participation
• 1:57:10
  or or
• 1:57:11
  your attention.
• 1:57:13
  See you tomorrow. Thank
• 1:57:15
  you, gentlemen. It's a Westbrook. You're welcome, Angelo. Glad to have you.
• 1:58:10
  Unknown: Blasting the voice with Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 1:58:16
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.