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Gorgeous New Orleans Coed Dumped 'Face Blue' by Uber Driver, LEFT TO DIE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. She's beautiful on the inside
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Speaker 1: and the outside. She's young, she's healthy, a college student
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Speaker 1: who actually wants to help children when she is through
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Speaker 1: with her education. She is so alive. You know, there
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Speaker 1: are people that just kind of like through life, and
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Speaker 1: then there are those people. When they walk in the room,
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Speaker 1: it's electric. You want to go talk to them, You
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Speaker 1: want to be around them like a moth and the flame.
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Speaker 1: That's this girl, Kaya Whetstone. Can somebody explain to me
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Speaker 1: why this gorgeous young co ed is dumped blue in
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Speaker 1: the face, dumped like a sack of potatoes outside a
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Speaker 1: hospital and left to die. And yes, this beautiful young
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Speaker 1: girl Kaya died and as of right now, no justice,
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Speaker 1: no justice. My twins are fifteen, they're about to start driving.
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Speaker 1: We practice every day at night in the rain on
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Speaker 1: the interstate. You name it. Why Because I want to
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Speaker 1: protect them. I want them ready. I want to save
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Speaker 1: their lives in any way I can. But should you
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Speaker 1: be afraid every time your son or daughter gets into
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Speaker 1: an uber? Yeah? I said it, get sent an Uber
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Speaker 1: and you know, step out of that uber, you get
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Speaker 1: pushed out like a sack of potatoes. I Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and series six sem one eleven.
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Speaker 1: I also want to tell you how I found out
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Speaker 1: about Kaya. Does the name Alex Murdog ring a bell? Well?
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Speaker 1: It should Alex Murdog and South Carolina, the heir to
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Speaker 1: a legal dynasty, just convicted of murdering his wife Maggie
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Speaker 1: and son Paul. What does that have to do with Kaya? Well?
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Speaker 1: I was there for the duration waiting on the verdict
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Speaker 1: and the Senate saying broadcasting live from in front of
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Speaker 1: the Cournhouse every single day, looking in the back of
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Speaker 1: Alex Murdog's head the rest of the time. One day,
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Speaker 1: I was afraid I was going to be late for court,
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Speaker 1: and I was running out of the holiday inn. We
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Speaker 1: were only there one night one night at that particular hotel,
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Speaker 1: and I saw a lady following me, and I was trying,
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Speaker 1: say hard to get to my car, thinking I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be late, I'm going to be late. I can't stop,
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Speaker 1: but I went, you know what, I stopped. She had
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Speaker 1: tears in her eyes and she handed me pictures and
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Speaker 1: a lot of type written papers, and I said, can
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Speaker 1: I help you? And This was Kaia's aunt that worked
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Speaker 1: at the holiday inn, begging in tears, running out into
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Speaker 1: a hot parking lot, chasing me to try and get justice.
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Speaker 1: Where are we living that you have to chase somebody
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Speaker 1: down out in a parking lot at seven point thirty
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Speaker 1: in the morning to try and get justice for this
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Speaker 1: beautiful young girl. Everything is completely best awkwards that she
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Speaker 1: had to come running to try to hand me this
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Speaker 1: stack of papers to try to get somebody to listen
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Speaker 1: to these facts. Well let's do just that. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen now to our friends at wvu E. She's my
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Speaker 1: best friend.
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Speaker 2: I brought her here to graduate, not to come back
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Speaker 2: her up.
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Speaker 3: Miranda Farrand holds a picture of her daughter, Kya Whetstone,
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Speaker 3: a twenty one year old University of New Orleans student
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Speaker 3: who mysteriously died two weeks ago after being dropped off
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Speaker 3: at a hospital by an uber driver.
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Speaker 1: She is a precious angel and I will not rest
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Speaker 1: She's mine. Dropped off by a neighbor. That's certainly a
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Speaker 1: euphemism putting perfume on the pig. Dropped off more like
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Speaker 1: pushed out of the car. And what more do we know?
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Speaker 1: That really struck me when her mother says I brought
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Speaker 1: her here to graduate, not to come pack her up.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Wyff.
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Speaker 4: A University of New Orleans student from Bamberg, South Carolina,
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Speaker 4: was dropped off dead at an area hospital this weekend.
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Speaker 4: The woman was identified as twenty one year old Cia
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Speaker 4: Jordan Whetstone. A coworker posted on Facebook that Whetstone got
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Speaker 4: into an uber around one Friday morning and was not
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Speaker 4: seen or heard from again until she was dropped off
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Speaker 4: at the hospital. Please say, her death remains unclassified at
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Speaker 4: this time and the investigation is ongoing.
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Speaker 1: Joining me right now an all star panel to make
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Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now and what I
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Speaker 1: now believe to be a desperate plea for justice. Before
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Speaker 1: I go to all the legal experts, medical doctors, foreign police,
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Speaker 1: she forensic psychologist, investigative reporter, I want to go to
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Speaker 1: Miranda Whetstone. This is Kaya's mother. First of all, is Whetstone,
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Speaker 1: I am so sorry the torture that you have gone
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Speaker 1: through since you learned about what happened to your daughter.
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Speaker 1: I am so sorry. Please know that we're not just
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Speaker 1: saying that, we really mean it, and I want you
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Speaker 1: to tell me how you learned. Kaya is dead.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nancy. I really do appreciate the opportunity to
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Speaker 2: be here and speak with you all today. So Kaya
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Speaker 2: the way, I learned that Kaya had passed away. So
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Speaker 2: I was in Florida on a travel assignment for work.
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Speaker 2: What do you do respiratory therapist? So I drove from
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Speaker 2: Florida back to South Carolina to spend the weekend with
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Speaker 2: my grandmother for her birthday, and Alex, which is Kaya's
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Speaker 2: younger brother, and I were set to go visit Kaya
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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, the twenty seventh. I believe it was in
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Speaker 2: New Orleans and Uh anyway, Uh, we had woken up
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Speaker 2: that morning and my grandmother decided that she wanted to
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Speaker 2: go on the trip with us. So we were trying
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Speaker 2: to get our tenerary together and I said, well, let
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Speaker 2: me call Kaya and just make sure that we don't
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Speaker 2: need to rent a car. So I call her cell
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Speaker 2: phone and Lady answers, and she basically I said where
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Speaker 2: I said it is, Kaye?
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Speaker 5: Where's Kaya?
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Speaker 2: This is like nine o'clock in the morning our time
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Speaker 2: in South Carolina, so I think they're an hour behind
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Speaker 2: us or so. But anyway, she immediately said, ma'am, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to need you to hold on and speak with
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Speaker 2: the doctor. You put the emergency medicine doctor on and
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Speaker 2: obviously I'm in. I know that's good. And I said,
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Speaker 2: where's my daughter? What what is going on? And she said, ma'am,
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Speaker 2: I hate to form you, but your daughter has dropped
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Speaker 2: off this morning at the er and she's the feast,
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Speaker 2: and obviously I need At that point, my world just stopped.
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Speaker 2: I can't even explain. I can't explain what happened after that.
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Speaker 2: I dropped the phone and fell to my knees, and
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Speaker 2: that's how I learned that my daughter had passed away.
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Speaker 1: You know, very rarely have I been left speechless, but
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Speaker 1: hearing your story with me, renowned attorney no stranger to
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Speaker 1: the courtroom is Renee Rockwell on Facebook Renee dot Rockwell. Renee,
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Speaker 1: this is your turf, New Orleans, Louisiana. And I believe
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Speaker 1: all of this occurred around the time of Marty Raw
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Speaker 1: and that is one of the reasons Kaya was out
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Speaker 1: so late. Kaya did not do drugs. She was not
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Speaker 1: a boozer. She made good grades the works. You know
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Speaker 1: that kind of student. You know, Renee. In our line
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Speaker 1: of business, when I was prosecuting cases that you are defending.
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Speaker 1: We don't see that kind of a young person. The
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Speaker 1: ones we see are the ones that are dealing dope,
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Speaker 1: that have stolen a car, and that have shot somebody.
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Speaker 1: And we're trying to, you know, piece it all together
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Speaker 1: and make the best of a really bad situation. That's
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Speaker 1: not Kaya Kaya actually was studying. I think it was
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Speaker 1: psychology to then help troubled children when she got out
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Speaker 1: of school. That's who Kaya is. I mean, you and
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Speaker 1: I have dealt with so many parents that get this news.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard it told the way? Miranda Whetstone
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Speaker 1: just told.
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Speaker 6: No, you can't. It's unimaginable. Nancy and Kaya. As I
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Speaker 6: meet her mother today, I realized that Kaya even has
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Speaker 6: a great grandmother, a mother, a little brother. Those are
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Speaker 6: the kind of things that you do not see in
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Speaker 6: a courtroom, Nancy, familial support.
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Speaker 1: This girl had everything, everything taken away from her. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at WCIV.
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Speaker 7: Kaya was brought to a city hospital at six forty
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Speaker 7: one Saturday morning by a man who told security he
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Speaker 7: was an uber driver. A nurse said Kaya looked blue
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Speaker 7: and her pupils were fixed and dilated, but she showed
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Speaker 7: no physical signs of injury. Kaya was declared dead about
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Speaker 7: thirty minutes later.
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Speaker 1: Whoa wait a minute, Wait a minute, so she gets
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Speaker 1: dumped off like a sack of sugar. Prime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, the cole part in joining me crimeonline dot
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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter. She was still alive when she was
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Speaker 1: dropped off at six point forty one a m. If
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Speaker 1: she had been dropped off earlier, she may have lived.
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Speaker 1: Do I have the time right? The coal partner, She
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Speaker 1: was alive but blue when she was dumped.
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Speaker 5: That's right.
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Speaker 6: She was dumped off by the uber driver at six
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Speaker 6: forty one am, and she was declared dead at seven
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Speaker 6: o seven.
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Speaker 1: Now, when missus Whetstone, who was joining us, Kaya's mom,
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Speaker 1: called her daughter's cell phone, she didn't get any of
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Speaker 1: that information. She's just told, point blank, first thing in
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Speaker 1: the morning, your daughter's dead. But listen to this information.
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Speaker 1: She then learned, take a listen to our friend Olivia
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Speaker 1: Vidall fox Eate.
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Speaker 2: I am asking anyone that knows any saying about what
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Speaker 2: happened to my daughter to please come forward and tell
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Speaker 2: the truth.
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Speaker 3: The family and their attorneys are asking for more transparency
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Speaker 3: and more consistent communication from investigators.
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Speaker 8: They have to read about it in the news that
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Speaker 8: Kya's pupils were dilated and that her face was blue,
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Speaker 8: and that she had been dropped off at the hospital
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Speaker 8: by a private party.
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Speaker 1: She found it out on line. Mss Whetstone, how did
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Speaker 1: you tell me about discovering that your daughter was dumped
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Speaker 1: off and that her face was blue and her pupils
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Speaker 1: dilated again.
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Speaker 2: I'm in the medical field. I'm a reskiratory therapist. I
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Speaker 2: see this every day. My heart is broken. It is
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Speaker 2: absolutely broken. She is worth more than that, she is
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Speaker 2: worth officials reaching out to me as a mother. I'm
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Speaker 2: just I'm heartbroken. I'm devastated. I'll never get over this.
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Speaker 1: And you had to read online that she had been
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Speaker 1: dropped off by someone that then sped away with her
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Speaker 1: face blue.
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Speaker 2: Like she was trash, basically like she was just trash.
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Speaker 1: Joining me a longtime colleague and friend who has really
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Speaker 1: put his money where his mouth is, Doctor William Maroney joining,
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Speaker 1: US medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist, author of American Narcan. Doctor Moroney,
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Speaker 1: let me just start with one simple question. Why would
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Speaker 1: someone's face turn blue?
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Speaker 5: Everything in your body has blood flowing through it, and
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Speaker 5: blood is red. When the oxygen no longer may hemoglobe
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Speaker 5: and red, you get a dusky color and that is blue.
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Speaker 5: That is called cyanosis. It's just a word that means blue.
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Speaker 5: Things look blue because it don't have oxygen and the
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Speaker 5: blood flow is not at a healthy level.
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Speaker 1: Because you're not breathing, your blood blood doesn't get the
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Speaker 1: oxygen it needs, and so you turn blue.
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Speaker 5: Heart's still pumping, but you stop breathing.
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Speaker 1: Doctor moroney, did you hear the timeline? She's dumped out
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Speaker 1: of the ubercar at six I believe it was six
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Speaker 1: forty one. Thirty minutes later she's declared dead. If someone
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Speaker 1: is simply not getting oxygen, wouldn't that be fairly? I
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Speaker 1: mean nothing medical wise is easy for me because I'm
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Speaker 1: just a JD. You're the MD. But she was alive
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Speaker 1: when she was dumped.
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Speaker 5: For every reason and every fact that's presented, we can
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Speaker 5: assume that she was dumped and she was alive. But
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Speaker 5: prior to her drop off, if she could have been
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Speaker 5: brought sooner, or any kind of interventions, but bringing somebody sooner,
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Speaker 5: that is the key to making sure you get a
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Speaker 5: different outcome.
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Speaker 1: Can I just talk about prints for a minute, oh, always, Prince,
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Speaker 1: who I adore you too, prints on a private plane.
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Speaker 1: They land, they don't stay, they take off again, and
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Speaker 1: he dies because he didn't have narcan. Would you agree
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Speaker 1: with that?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we have narcan everywhere in America. It's with
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Speaker 5: the police, it's with the fire department. It should be
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Speaker 5: in vehicles, it should be on trains, it should be
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Speaker 5: on airplane.
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I've got to explain why I care what Prince,
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Speaker 1: the artist formally known as Prince, has anything to do
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Speaker 1: with Kaya Whetstone. Take a listen to our friends at
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Speaker 1: crime online.
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Speaker 9: Around six forty one am, a man claiming to be
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Speaker 9: an uber driver brings a visibly ill woman into New
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Speaker 9: Orleans East Hospital and drops her off. The medical staff
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Speaker 9: says Whatstone is blue and has dilated fixed pupils, but
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Speaker 9: there are no other outward injuries. Hospital personnel try to
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Speaker 9: revive her without success. Time of death is called hero
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Speaker 9: ound seven am. Whatstone's death is classified as accidental. The
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Speaker 9: coroner determined that Whatstone had lethal doses of ventanyl and
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Speaker 9: ethanol in her system at the time.
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Speaker 1: Important remember, this girl has no history of drug use,
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Speaker 1: and I don't mean just never been arrested or treated.
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Speaker 1: None of her friends, none of her family have ever
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Speaker 1: seen her or known her to do drugs. That would
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Speaker 1: be like somebody telling Jackie I had an OD That's
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Speaker 1: not going to happen willingly, it's not. So why suddenly
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Speaker 1: does this young girl have a lethal amount of fentanyl
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Speaker 1: in her system? Back to doctor William Moroney, medical examiner,
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Speaker 1: renowned toxicologist and author of American narcan, the Laxton and
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Speaker 1: Heroin fentanel associated Mortality. He has literally written the book. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so how does somebody go from never using drugs like me,
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Speaker 1: never even smoke pot, nothing, don't want anything to do
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Speaker 1: with it, to a lethal amount a fentanyl Maroni? That
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Speaker 1: does not happen in my world of criminal justice. That
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Speaker 1: has not happened.
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Speaker 5: Okay, you have to look at it this way. Say
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Speaker 5: that Kaya has not been disposed to any drugs. She's
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Speaker 5: what we call naive. Her body, her liver, her blood,
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Speaker 5: her brain. She is naive, and in a naive state,
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Speaker 5: you are more likely to experience a toxic effect from
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Speaker 5: a drug than if you were a regular drug user.
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Speaker 5: You would be dependent. She was not dependent. So that
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Speaker 5: if there's a drug like a Sentinel that took effect
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Speaker 5: she's in worse case because she's a naive somebody very
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Speaker 5: early not involved in a drug use.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you a question. Okay, I understand
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Speaker 1: you're saying her body is naive. Naive remains a lack
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Speaker 1: of worldly knowledge, but the body is naive to drugs
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Speaker 1: or alcohol. Got it. However, it was determined that her
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Speaker 1: body naivete had nothing to do with the fact there
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Speaker 1: was a lethal dosage a fentanyl. Whether she'd used FEDL
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Speaker 1: in the past or not, it was still a lethal amount.
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Speaker 5: And here's what I'll say. This is going to sound
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Speaker 5: a little shady because of the holiday or whatever, social
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Speaker 5: there is the chance that she was the target of
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Speaker 5: a predator seeking to subdue her with drugs and alcohol.
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Speaker 5: And this happens to tens of millions of women a year,
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Speaker 5: especially young women. Women are introduced to drugs through intimate
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Speaker 5: relationships and communications. That the fact and the introduction of
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Speaker 5: sentinel is somebody targeting her. And I'll say this about
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Speaker 5: the police investigation. They may not be releasing everything because
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Speaker 5: they don't know everything that happened, but the amount of
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Speaker 5: fentanyl that she was exposed to in her toxicology report
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Speaker 5: is thirty nine nanograms per mile, leader, you only need
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Speaker 5: three to die, And.
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Speaker 1: You're saying in her toxicology report she had thirty nine nanograms.
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Speaker 5: And you only need three to die.
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Speaker 1: She was odain. This woman like, if I had to
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Speaker 1: go out this studio door right now and go score fentanyl,
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Speaker 1: I guess I would go to where I prosecuted for
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Speaker 1: so many years, where I know you can get cracked. Okay,
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Speaker 1: pop haroin, whatever you want math, I would go there
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Speaker 1: and try to score some fentanyl. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that would work, but that's where I would go first.
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Speaker 1: This girl didn't even know where to get sentanel even
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Speaker 1: if she wanted it. This girl had been with her friends,
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Speaker 1: isn't that right, Miss Whetstone. She had been out at
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Speaker 1: a Marty Gras party with her friends, her little college friends.
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Speaker 1: They weren't dealing sentinel right.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're right, Nancy. She actually had worked that day
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Speaker 2: and when she had gotten off from work at the
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Speaker 2: mall at Buckle, she went actually with a friend that
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Speaker 2: she works with, one of her managers from Buckle, and
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Speaker 2: they went to a Marti Gras parade.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, take a listen to our friends at wc IV.
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Speaker 7: I spoke to two of her cousins who were very
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Speaker 7: close to Kaya. All they know is that Kaya was
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Speaker 7: snapchatting with friends at have Marti Gras parade on Friday night.
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Speaker 7: She climbed into an uber and then nothing.
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Speaker 10: She had been at the Marty Gral parade and there's
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Speaker 10: just a big time gap until then when he dropped her.
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Speaker 9: All.
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Speaker 10: So I just we don't really know. I just parted.
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Speaker 10: She didn't suffer me. I just hope we get to
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Speaker 10: justice she deserves.
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Speaker 1: Okay, help me out here, Renee Rockwell, I want you
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Speaker 1: to put this in the back of your mind because
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Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to argue. Abandoned and malignant heart.
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Speaker 1: It's been also called a black heart. Abandoned and malignant heart.
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Speaker 1: That would be This is the example I would give
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Speaker 1: to juries. Like when you get in your car and
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Speaker 1: you floor at ninety mph and you drive through let's
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Speaker 1: say a street festival has been cordoned off for pedestrians only,
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Speaker 1: and you mow down seven or eight people dead, crushing
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Speaker 1: their skulls, blood everywhere, torn down tents, the works. Did
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Speaker 1: you know those victims?
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Speaker 6: Know?
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Speaker 1: You didn't know them, you never met them in your life.
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Speaker 1: Did you intentionally plan to kill those victims. No, you
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Speaker 1: committed an act that was an abandoned and malignant heart,
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Speaker 1: complete disregard for human life. And I am telling you,
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Speaker 1: Renee Rockwell, this needs to be a murder charge based
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Speaker 1: on the theory I just gave you doping up a
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Speaker 1: girl naive to drugs. Her buddy couldn't take it. Plus
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Speaker 1: it was a huge like ten times the amount over
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Speaker 1: a lethal dose, yes, almost four times. The lethal dose
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Speaker 1: is three. And she had thirty nine nanograms a fentnel
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Speaker 1: in her system. That's an OD. Somebody gave her an OD,
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Speaker 1: probably to rape her, would be my guess, but regardless,
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Speaker 1: I don't have to prove motive. Somebody gave her the fentanyl,
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Speaker 1: she did not have it getting into that ubercar, and
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Speaker 1: now she's dead. What about that, Renee?
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Speaker 6: You gotta wonder, Nancy, did somebody hand her a drink
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Speaker 6: like the doctor said? Did somebody try to take advantage
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Speaker 6: of her? The police are going to try to figure
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Speaker 6: out what time did she get into Uber, what time
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Speaker 6: did he drop her off? Where was she in the wealth.
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Speaker 1: They're taking their dam and time, aren't they?
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Speaker 6: And Nancy, where have we gotten in this society where
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Speaker 6: you have to hire a lawyer to get.
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Speaker 1: Just exactly they should be all over this law enforced. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what do we know. Let's follow up with Renee's theory
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Speaker 1: that she just threw out there. But it's a theory.
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Speaker 1: You have to acknowledge and determine. Is it true? Is
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Speaker 1: it possible? Is it probable? Is it improbable? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen now to our friends at crimeonline dot com.
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Speaker 11: On a Friday evening in New Orleans, South Carolina native
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Speaker 11: and Curran University of New Orleans student Kaya Whetstone and
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Speaker 11: her friend Juliette Or attend some parades. After the parades,
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Speaker 11: Wehtstone goes out in the town with some other friends
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Speaker 11: and then itches a ride from yet another friend, who
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Speaker 11: drives her to her boyfriend's home in the suburb of Hanrahan.
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Speaker 11: From there, Juliette Or tells the New Orleans Advocate, Whetstone
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Speaker 11: catches an uber to her apartment in gentility to check
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Speaker 11: on her dog.
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Speaker 1: So here we are. It is one am. Everybody else
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Speaker 1: is all partying. Marnie Graw, the whole city of New
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Speaker 1: Orleans is partying, and she has the wherewithal still sober
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Speaker 1: and says, I can't go with you. Guys, I gotta
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Speaker 1: check on the dog first, and then I'll go. She
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Speaker 1: goes back home to check on the dog. What I'm
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Speaker 1: saying this is a fact that when you're out of
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Speaker 1: your gorgon, you're high on fentanyl or drunk, you don't think, oh, guys,
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Speaker 1: I'd like to go with you, but I've got to
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Speaker 1: check on my dog and then I'll rejoin. That is
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Speaker 1: factually probative. It proves something to me about her state
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Speaker 1: of mind at one A. M okay, right there, she's
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Speaker 1: still fine. She went to boyfriend's home and then she
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Speaker 1: catches an uber to her apartment. Now what happens?
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Speaker 11: Pick it up Jacks now one am. And when she
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Speaker 11: arrives at her apartment, she tells her room mate Reese White,
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Speaker 11: the uber driver is a friend and they're going to
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Speaker 11: go look for her car. Reese White tries to convince
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Speaker 11: her roomy not to go, but leaves with the uber
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Speaker 11: driver anyway. Around one thirty, another friend reaches out to
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Speaker 11: Kya Webstone. Roberto Torres talks briefly to Weddstone, and while
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Speaker 11: they're on the phone, Torres clearly here's the Uber driver
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Speaker 11: ask Kya Wetstone quote, do you like the party. At
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Speaker 11: that Kyle Wetstone tells Torres she will call him back.
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Speaker 11: She never does.
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Speaker 1: I just learned a lot. I just learned a lot.
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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to hell, but you know what, I want
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Speaker 1: them to make a pit stop at a CI correctional
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Speaker 1: institute before they meet the devil. Do you hear that, Renee?
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that? She's fine? At one am, she
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Speaker 1: picks up the phone. She's fine, she's coherent, she's sober.
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Speaker 1: And then she wants to go find her car. She
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to leave it parked at a Marti Gras
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Speaker 1: parade overnight, so she says, oh, the Uber driver's fine.
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Speaker 1: Were friends? A friend reaches out to her one thirty am,
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Speaker 1: she's fine and she here's the driver, say, do you
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Speaker 1: like to party? I'm so madic at you and nail
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Speaker 1: and a half. What does that tell you?
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Speaker 6: Nay, that's presuming there was nobody else in the car.
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Speaker 6: But where do you strike up a friendship with an
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Speaker 6: uber driver? That there's something that smells bad about that.
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Speaker 6: I don't like that at all.
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Speaker 1: Well it could have just been casual in that. Oh no,
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Speaker 1: he's my friend. He doesn't mind going. At one thirty
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Speaker 1: he'll take the ride. It's fine. I don't know the
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Speaker 1: context of that. Joining me right now is Dan Corsentino
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Speaker 1: out of Pueblo, Colorado, former police chief, former sheriff, and
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Speaker 1: served on US Homeland Security Senior Advisory Board, now private
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Speaker 1: investigator at Dan Corsentino dot com. Dan, can we talk?
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Speaker 1: I know you have investigated all around the world as
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Speaker 1: part of homeland security, but can I just talk to
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Speaker 1: you about Uber. They have to know who the driver is,
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Speaker 1: the route he I mean, for Pete's sake, when I
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Speaker 1: order Uber eight's, I can watch the driver coming to
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Speaker 1: deliver the food, watch them walk up. So if I
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Speaker 1: can do that with my food, don't they have a
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Speaker 1: way to monitor or surveil their drivers.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's number one. The timeline that you articulated certainly
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Speaker 12: doesn't favor the Uber driver here. Number two, the route
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Speaker 12: that the Uber driver arrived from and where he went
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Speaker 12: to should be tracked both on their GPS tracking system
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Speaker 12: and then in the vehicle that they had, which I
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Speaker 12: believe was a Toyota. They have these black boxes that
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Speaker 12: are in those vehicles that record all sorts of information
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Speaker 12: if they extract that. So the situation that has developed
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Speaker 12: at this point in time in regards to uber, deals
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Speaker 12: with the pol Cason were in play in then tempt
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Speaker 12: specifically of this uber driver, what was his motive in
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Speaker 12: the end, Assuming that this young lady was alone in
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Speaker 12: the vehicle and there was no other party in the
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Speaker 12: vehicle worth.
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Speaker 1: Her exactly, we're learning a little bit more about her
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Speaker 1: route and the details surrounding her disappears for that period
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Speaker 1: of just a few hours where she ends up dump
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Speaker 1: like a sack of sugar, dead, soon to die, blue
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Speaker 1: in the face eyes the pupils dilated. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friends at crime Online.
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Speaker 11: For the victim's mother, says Kyle Whtstone died twenty six
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Speaker 11: minutes after she was carelessly and recklessly dropped off and
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Speaker 11: left for dead. That uber and the unidentified driver who
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Speaker 11: dropped her daughter off the morning she died, showed disregard
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Speaker 11: for the child's life and are ultimately responsible for her death.
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Speaker 11: Kyle Wetstone called an uber. In the early morning hours
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Speaker 11: of February nineteen, twenty twenty two, a driver picked her
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Speaker 11: up in his twenty nineteen Toyota Camry from a parade
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Speaker 11: route in the New Orleans area and drove her to
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Speaker 11: her destination on the UNO campus. The uber driver escorted
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Speaker 11: Wetstone to a dorm room. Then both the driver and
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Speaker 11: Wetstone returned to his car and drove to another quote
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Speaker 11: undisclosed and undetermined unquote location. The lawsuit alleges the driver
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Speaker 11: at some point during the ride contributed to or caused
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Speaker 11: the harm that led to Wedstone's death. When the unnamed
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Speaker 11: uber driver took Wetstone to the hospital in New Orleans East,
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Speaker 11: he left without leaving his name or advance that led
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Speaker 11: to the medical emergency. She was dropped off at six
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Speaker 11: forty one am and pronounced dead at seven oh seven am.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to missus Whetstone, this is
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Speaker 1: Tias trying to piece together everything that we're hearing. Do
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Speaker 1: you know, Mss Whetstone, whether a rape kit was performed
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Speaker 1: on Kaya.
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Speaker 2: I was told that there was a rape kit and
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Speaker 2: it was negative.
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Speaker 1: You are told that, doctor Maroney. Have you looked at
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Speaker 1: the autopsy report?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I have it in front of me. I'm looking
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Speaker 5: at all the different sections, but I'm phrenomenantly looking into
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Speaker 5: the lab.
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Speaker 1: Could you thumb through and tell me if you see
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Speaker 1: any indication that a rape kit was performed on Kaya
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Speaker 1: because what I'm zeroing in on, and this is to
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Speaker 1: Dan Arsantino and Renee Rockwell, high profile defense lawyer is
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Speaker 1: that time. So somehow she struck up a casual friendship
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Speaker 1: with the Uber driver. He walks her to her roommate's room,
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Speaker 1: walks her to her dorm room, they check on the dog,
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Speaker 1: and then the driver in Kaya go back to the
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Speaker 1: car right here, to an undisclosed location, and it says undetermined.
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Speaker 1: That's total BS because Uber has a record of everywhere
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Speaker 1: this driver goes, so they know where he went and
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Speaker 1: right there when she goes to the dorm room, when
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Speaker 1: she goes to check on her dog, she's fine. Then
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Speaker 1: within about three and a half hours she's blue in
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Speaker 1: the face. What happened at the undetermined location? What happened
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Speaker 1: right there? Renee? Where is New Orleans East Hospital as
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Speaker 1: it relates to the campus.
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Speaker 6: Nancy, I can't tell you exactly how far away that is,
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Speaker 6: but in New Orleans there's nothing too terribly far away.
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Speaker 6: I'd be curious if he brought her to the nearest hospital.
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Speaker 6: I want to make one point, though, Nancy. Just because
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Speaker 6: there's a negative rape KIP does not mean she was
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Speaker 6: not great.
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Speaker 12: Let's just remember.
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Speaker 2: That right now.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not plus Murni. Do you see anything in there
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Speaker 1: about a rape kit?
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Speaker 5: No? Really, the rape kit will be documentation from a
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Speaker 5: staff that's called criminal sexual assault nurse, the same nurse.
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Speaker 5: But the pathology external exam of the genitals says grossly unremarkable.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean there's not sperm.
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Speaker 5: Well no, but that will be found in the rape kit.
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Speaker 5: But you would you would say, is there assault on
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Speaker 5: her female parts? And according to this it doesn't look
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Speaker 5: like an assault. But that rape kit report will be
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Speaker 5: a separate document.
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Speaker 1: Do you have that, Miranda? Do you have the rape kit?
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Speaker 10: I do not.
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Speaker 1: And you can't just be the genitals. You have to
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Speaker 1: look at the mouth. You have to look at the
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Speaker 1: whole body to determine is their seamen, there is their
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Speaker 1: male DNA from perspiration for example, on her body. You
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Speaker 1: have to look everywhere to find that. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: hearing that that was done. What more do we know
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Speaker 1: about this victim? Take a listen to our friend Sidney Sumner.
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Speaker 9: Crime online kaya Jordan Whetstone moves from her native South
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Speaker 9: Carolina to Louisiana for college. Wetstone settles in New Orleans
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Speaker 9: and into her routine of psychology classes and a retail
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Speaker 9: job at the mall in a clothing store called Buckle.
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Speaker 9: Friend say Whetstone is set to graduate in the next
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Speaker 9: year with the dream of helping kids through therapy and more.
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Speaker 9: Whetstone was looking forward to her first Marty Gras. She
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Speaker 9: started her weekend in Metorie watching carnival parade festivities with
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Speaker 9: her friends and her boyfriend. Then it was on to
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Speaker 9: a night out on the town. On her Instagram, Wetstone
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Speaker 9: shared photos of the festivities and she captioned them, well,
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Speaker 9: my first Marti Gras parade did not disappoint. As the
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Speaker 9: night progressed. Whetstone ended up at her boyfriend's house and
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Speaker 9: later in the evening decided to go home. She called
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Speaker 9: a new.
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Speaker 1: Verse to doctor Sherry Schwartz joining US forensic psychologist specializing
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Speaker 1: in capital mitigation and victim advocacy. She's the author of
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Speaker 1: Criminal Behavior and also the book Where Law and Psychology Intersect.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at Trial Doc or at panthermitigation
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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Sherry Schwartz, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: You know it's sticking in my mind like a brand
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Speaker 1: on skin. Do you like to party. That is what
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Speaker 1: the uber driver said to this little girl, a novice
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Speaker 1: to drugs and alcohol, do you like to party? My
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Speaker 1: rear end. Apparently he had a very different interpretation of
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Speaker 1: what it means to quote party.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, and what that sounds like to me, it's chilling,
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Speaker 13: because what it sounds like is that this is somebody
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Speaker 13: who is a predator, who has a depraved mind, and
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Speaker 13: he's got an ulterior motive, and he's sizing her up.
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Speaker 13: And you know, Nancy, I read in her obituary that
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Speaker 13: she never met a stranger, and she always made people
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Speaker 13: feel loved and accepted. And I imagine Kaya, a young
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Speaker 13: psychology student, getting into that car and seeing the uber
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Speaker 13: driver as a friend because she never met a stranger
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Speaker 13: and couldn't imagine, because she was so good, that anybody
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Speaker 13: else would be out to do her any harm.
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Speaker 1: Ms Wetstone, Why haven't there been charges brought in this case.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Abra driver meant to kill her.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that he treated her with an abandoned and
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Speaker 1: malignant heart. At the very least, this is a voluntary
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Speaker 1: manslar charge. At the least. What's happening, Nancy?
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Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. We have heard
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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing from the authorities. Justin actually a subpoena Nola
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Speaker 2: Police Department this week because he was told that they
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Speaker 2: would have a phone conference whether this case was actually
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Speaker 2: still ongoing or whether it was closed. Because right now
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Speaker 2: we have no knowledge of that and we're in limbo.
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Speaker 2: I have not heard anything from them.
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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something else that we've learned? Dan Corsentina,
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Speaker 1: a former police chief and sheriff, we contacted the police. Gee,
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Speaker 1: I wonder why they didn't want to come on today.
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Speaker 1: But we also learned they said, we went to the
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Speaker 1: Aubers driver's house and he wasn't home. So that's when
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Speaker 1: you stake out in the place. That's when you sit
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Speaker 1: there till he does come home. How do I know
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Speaker 1: that I've done it myself. I've sat in my beat
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Speaker 1: up Ponda hiding hunch down behind the wheel, waiting for
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Speaker 1: a school bus driver to come home, and I got her.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean he wasn't home?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Nancy, the police department appears as I took a
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Speaker 12: look at this case to really be underperforming, and they
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Speaker 12: haven't put this as a priority. They took the Corners
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Speaker 12: report as an accidental overdose, and they closed the case
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Speaker 12: out and they ran with it. From that perspective, I mean,
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Speaker 12: this young lady deserves a voice, she deserves to be heard,
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Speaker 12: and she can at this point because one component in
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Speaker 12: the criminal justice system is failing to do their job
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Speaker 12: and they need to really focus in on the uber driver.
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Speaker 12: There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: The whole parton Crime online dot Com invescat reporter, What
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Speaker 1: can you tell me what is happening in the case?
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Speaker 1: Who Jackie? Who is the sheriff in this jurisdiction? What
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Speaker 1: county is at.
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Speaker 2: Miranda, Nancy, I'm not even sure I know.
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Speaker 1: I know it's Greater New Orleans, Renette. You would know that.
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Speaker 6: Well, we don't have counties in Leuisdana. We have of perishes,
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Speaker 6: and you could count on it being Orleans Parish. But
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Speaker 6: if she was a mettery of that, Nancy, the conglomeration
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Speaker 6: of all the police departmartments, the sheriff's department, we've got
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Speaker 6: the first of all, Marti Gras. You know, everything shuts
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Speaker 6: down for weeks.
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Speaker 5: Nancy, No, I did not know that.
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Speaker 6: Oh yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 12: People do not go to work.
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Speaker 6: Why because it's party central it's carnival.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that includes the police department.
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Speaker 6: Well, apparently in this case, it's included the police department, Nancy.
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Speaker 6: So we're talking about Orleans Parish, Nancy. We're talking about
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Speaker 6: New Orleans metro area and Marti Gras. It is party central.
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Speaker 6: It's carnival, and people take off of work for ten days,
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Speaker 6: and obviously the police department has done the same.
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Speaker 1: Ms. Whetstein, I doubt deeply that the police department took
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Speaker 1: off the night that your daughter was giving a fatal
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Speaker 1: lethal dosage a sentinel. What is your message to them today?
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Speaker 2: I need communication. I need to know where they stand,
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Speaker 2: what information they have. They have her belongings, they have
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Speaker 2: her phone. Her phone has everything on it, it has everything.
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Speaker 2: We are in the dark.
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 2: I have no clue where they are in this investigation,
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Speaker 2: what they have found, who they have talked to. I
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Speaker 2: am absolutely in the dark, and no matter where I turned,
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Speaker 2: I'm still not getting anywhere. Eighteen months later, I have
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Speaker 2: yet to get a phone call from these people from
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Speaker 2: the department. They just say, hey, when your daughters, we
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Speaker 2: still care. We do care. This is still an open investigation.
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Speaker 2: We're still looking into things. I need communication. I need
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Speaker 2: to know what they are doing about this situation because
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go away. I have a lifetime
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Speaker 2: to sit and nothing but time. I have nothing but
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Speaker 2: time to give.
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Speaker 6: Nancy used to be a prosecutor. How important and part
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Speaker 6: of your job was victim contact. They even have victim
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Speaker 6: witness advocates now at every prosecutor's office and at the
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Speaker 6: police department. That is one of your main focuses in
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Speaker 6: any case is victim contact.
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Speaker 1: In Erina, you just sent a flood of memories back
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Speaker 1: sitting in victims living rooms, at their kitchen table, the victims'
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Speaker 1: families because their loved one will be typically dead by
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Speaker 1: the time I met them. And it's everything. It's everything
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Speaker 1: to know your victim's family, to know your victim, whether
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Speaker 1: in life or in death. And I'm embarrassed, embarrassed for
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Speaker 1: law enforcement, specifically the Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson, that
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Speaker 1: this is how the constituents are treated. Their number is
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Speaker 1: five zero four eight two two eight thousand, and believe
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Speaker 1: you me, I will be calling again to get about
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Speaker 1: three inches up their tailpipe, Doctor Moroney. Final thought.
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Speaker 5: The final thought is her lungs are congested with copious
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Speaker 5: amounts of fluid, which means the overdose that killed her
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Speaker 5: developed with the Uber driver that you can tell that
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Speaker 5: by the amount of fluid, and it's one of the
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Speaker 5: secondary causes of death after fentanyl toxicity. It's pulmonary congestion.
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Speaker 5: And our investigators said, give her a voice. We go
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Speaker 5: beyond her case. There's hundreds of thousands of women that
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Speaker 5: are being supposed to predators who give them drugs for sex,
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Speaker 5: to abuse them in beginning relationships. We have to give
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Speaker 5: them all a voice. This kind of behavior has to stop.
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Speaker 5: We have to put these people.
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Speaker 1: In jail today. Corsantina jump in Dane.
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Speaker 14: One of the things that I found which I found
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Speaker 14: somewhat interesting is Uber purports to do uniform training on
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Speaker 14: sexual misconduct through online videos six online videos to be specific.
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Speaker 14: But how they do that and the system they have
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Speaker 14: in place is really really questionable. So it's not going
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Speaker 14: to be a mitigating factor for this Uber driver, one
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Speaker 14: if he didn't do it, and two if he did
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Speaker 14: do it and he still is the perpetrator in this case,
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Speaker 14: it only adds more to the fire in the fact
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Speaker 14: that their system has failed. And I think that becomes
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Speaker 14: critical in the investigation as well as the Sharf's office.
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Speaker 14: Filling in the gaps, specifically on the timeline that exists
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Speaker 14: every shriff's department, every criminal case, homicide, investigator's suspicious death,
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Speaker 14: serious bodily injury. They've got to fill in the gaps
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Speaker 14: where there's timelines that are unaccounted for, and they failed
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Speaker 14: to do that, and that answer those answers have to
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Speaker 14: be complete.
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Speaker 1: At this airing, no one has been charged, no one
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Speaker 1: has been arrested, nothing is happening in the case. Why
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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,