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Why I Bought a $139 Amazon Driveshaft for My TJ · Jeep Talk Show

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Hey Jeepers, I'm Josh and on
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this episode of the Jeep talk
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So we're gonna talk about driveline
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vibrations and the potential of all
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electric jeeps coming from China and
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whether or not that's
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gonna be a good thing
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Tony
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Yeah, it's a damn thing about this this
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2003 TJ that my wife drives or I should
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say doesn't drive Josh with your XJ
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Did you ever have driveline vibrations
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especially after making
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the changes or upgrades?
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Yeah, I did initially in the first stage
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of my lift when I first got the XJ
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I did I did about a two and a half inch
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three inch lift or thereabouts
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I think was the first first phase of
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things and of course
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I did have rear driveline vibrations as a
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lot of jeepers do when
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they go over two inches
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I just one of those things and at the
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time I had opted for a transfer case drop
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And I think that was the cheapest
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solution at the time and and my Jeep
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build has been done on a budget
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Primarily since the beginning there
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wasn't a whole lot of things that I that
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I've done that I you know
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Splurged on if you will
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So yeah
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That was one of the things that I had to
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combat first and foremost was was that
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and that was because the lift
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Not because of anything else. Yeah now
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you've done axle. I'm sorry you joint
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replacements on axles and
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Your main the tube axles the drive shaft
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acts all that stuff replaced
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Yeah, however you join on that Jeep
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probably three times. Yeah,
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I've done a many many times
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I've never done one on a TJ and I don't
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know if you you've
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you've you've never had a TJ
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But I think you've helped some buddies
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out with TJ. Oh, I've worked on plenty
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We're that rear driveshaft
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is a tiny little thing. Yes
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Eighteen inches long. Yes, it's so tiny
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and I think that's one of
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the reasons why I had problems
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The the u-joints didn't be replaced in my
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wife's 2003 TJ rear drive
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Rear drive shaft so I spent the 35 bucks.
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It's it's not doesn't have that as I like
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to say the sweater of the card cardigan
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Rear joint on it. It didn't have a card
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and join on it because
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it's a slip yoke that
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That uses so I just you know, 35 bucks
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Spicer u-joints put them in there, but I
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couldn't get them to seat
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Exactly the way I wanted them to seat and
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it wasn't until later that I found out
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why they came with two different color
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Clips, they kind of had a blackish
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grayish dark clip and they
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had a like a copper color
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Which actually is copper thinner clip. So
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those are the ones that
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I'm familiar with. Yeah
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I didn't know I never had seen that in
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any of the other ones
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or never had to you know
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You think about it. So I put the ones in
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the ones that didn't look wrong the
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copper ones looked wrong
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Well, I found out later one of our guest
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hosts that does do
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this stuff for a living
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Told me that the thinner ones is probably
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what I needed to use at any rate
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It worked perfectly fine. It was alright,
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but around 40 miles an hour. It had a
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little bit of vibration
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And I think it was because it wasn't
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centered properly and I
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think it was because it was so
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The drive shaft was so short
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That that it caused that vibration
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There is something that you may have
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forgotten a subject that
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we had covered gosh long ago
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And I think we've only covered it maybe
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once or twice, uh in
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the history of the show
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Drive line phasing. Are
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you familiar with that?
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Do you remember drive line phasing and
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how to phase your drive line
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properly to avoid vibration?
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Will that be barking the drive shaft when
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in so when you put it back it
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was in the same 180 degrees?
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No, it's it's kind of like a star. It's
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kind of like a star trek thing
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It kind of goes into existence and out of
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existence. No, i'm just kidding
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Uh, it has to do with the with the
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direction that the yolks are facing
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And if your drive line is in phase
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You've got yolks that sort of counter
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balance each other if the
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drive line is out of phase
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You essentially have the drive train the
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drive line itself that
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whole section is out of balance
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With because all the drive lines
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themselves are static balanced on a
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machine to themselves
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And they trust that that drive line is
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going to be installed properly into the
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vehicle so that that balancing can
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continue after installation
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Now if you install it
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backwards or upside down
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And you have an unphased drive line
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These vibrations can sink in because no
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long the the drive train itself is no
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longer in balance. So I
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don't understand the uh,
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The u-joint will only go in one way on
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the rear and the part
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that holds the the slip yoke
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You can only put the u-joint in one way.
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So how do you handle the phasing?
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I mean could i've done anything different
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when installing the u-joints or is it
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just too bad too sad?
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It's out of phase now
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It well, no, not necessarily unless the
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drive line was out of the vehicle
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Or there was allowed for some turning to
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have happened in between installation
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removal and reinstallation
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There's some images that you can you can
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look up and I would suggest anybody who's
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not familiar with the
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term drive line phasing
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To look up that term on google. There's a
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ton of images that will explain this
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Very clearly as to sort of how the
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counterbalancing works between the two
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yokes and which way
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they need to be facing
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This is independent of the u-joint the
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u-joint is essentially across there is no
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up. There is no down
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um, I think I see what you're saying or
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the the the slip yoke portion of it or I
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guess the the the yoke on the
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the differential if it was
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Uh if it was twisted and
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no the the jeep didn't move
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The only thing that moved was I had it in
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neutral the uh transfer
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case in neutral so I could
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Adjust it enough to get it to line up
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with the the yoke on the the
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differential. So yeah, I don't know
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It's a mystery but what I did do
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We'll get more information on that
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because i'd like to talk more about that
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But I don't have any detailed information
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on it right now. Sure. Um,
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but what I did do I I think
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Uh, my wife would not
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drive it. She did not feel safe
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Driving this. Oh, yeah
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I mean because this is
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akin to death wobble almost no
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That's what i'm telling
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you is this was a minor
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Vibration at 40 miles
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an hour minor vibration
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And that's why I brought up the xj thing
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is because I think you and I have lived
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With minor vibrations on
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the xj for well, it's a jeep
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I mean it doesn't have vibrations on
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their jeep. Yeah. Yeah,
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so I drove it just fine
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I didn't have a problem driving it at
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all, you know, but but she didn't she
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didn't like it. She
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refused to drive the tj
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And uh, it's like there's fortunately we
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had a brand new, uh, a
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gladiator that she could drive
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Well, yeah, I mean she wants to get back
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to her tj. She loves her tj.
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She wants to get back to it
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Who wouldn't? Yeah,
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no, that's a nice friend
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I was gonna I was gonna replace both u
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joints again, uh, and
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just try to do a do-over
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But there was no
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guarantee that was gonna fix it
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So I had checked way back when now, this
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has been over a year that
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she hasn't driven her her tj
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So I checked way back when and the full
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replacement drive shafts were like, um,
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399 dollars
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499 I was gonna say you'd be north of 250
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easy. I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
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exactly. Uh 250
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wouldn't have been too bad
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So just for grins and giggles, uh, you
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know, I don't know why I always think
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about getting out there
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and working on the u joints
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And stuff when it's 600 degrees outside
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But I went and checked
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on amazon for a factory
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Tj and you have to be specific too
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because things are different if you have
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a dana 44 if you have a certain
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transmission certain
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Transfer case and so on so forth. So so I
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found this the exact part number that I
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needed to use for this 2003
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tj
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2003 x model
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And you got oe equipment you've got you
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got something like a like
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an omics 88 type of well
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I don't think it was oem, but it was
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It was equivalent to
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that specific uh part number
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Okay, so we're not talking about like a
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tom woods or or an adams or
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anything like that. It's okay
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Yeah, so I founded it on amazon with a
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good rating, uh for the the product
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139.50 shipped get out of here. Really?
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Yep. What is it made of tin foil?
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What's going on here? It had
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a like I said, it was rated
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Well had a four and a half star rating on
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it and several hundred of
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these things have been sold
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And I thought to myself, okay
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Okay
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I can spend 35
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And give a couple more u
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joints and take another hack at it
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And see if I can uh, if I can get it
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right this time or I can just get this
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replacement drive shaft
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That should already be taken care of and
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balanced everything else and it was a
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full assembly, right?
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Okay. All right. I even had little uh
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little bracket type
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thing on the the u caps
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It wasn't taped. It actually had a metal
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bracket holding the the caps on
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And uh, yeah, it was really nice even
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came with a replacement sleeve
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Uh and replacement bands so that you
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could tie that sleeve you got a little
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accordion looking thing
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that goes on the slip yoke
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Uh, anyway, I was very impressed with it
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and it's a heavy little bastard too
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It's so funny that that little bitty
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drive shaft is so heavy solid steel. Yeah
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for a little drive shaft
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Yeah, so I had it for a few days before I
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wanted before I got I got out there
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I've been having a hard time just getting
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up and down with my age
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Up and down from the jeep and I knew this
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was about a 30 minute job
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So I finally did it sure. Yeah, I finally
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did it. I didn't get and I want to
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mention this I didn't do this
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Do this but anytime you take the drive
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shaft off and it's got those straps
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holding it on which most of them do
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Uh, you should replace the straps the
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straps that hold the u
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joint idea to the yoke
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Those straps are a one-time use so
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they're they don't cost much money. I
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think they come with bolts as well
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So, uh, it's just a good idea to do that
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I probably should order another set of
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straps just so I can put on there and
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kind of finish up the job
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But I got it down there to have in the in
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the kit just in case, you know
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Something breaks on the trail you lose
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something or somebody else has a has a
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failure or something
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You've got a spare in other words and
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jeez at 139 bucks off of amazon delivered
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Dude, I mean that's not a bad idea just
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to have the entire assembly
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sitting on back ready to go
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I mean because i've been out on trails
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I mean the first day we were out on the
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rubicon, uh when I did that when I did
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that trip, uh, we we broke a drive
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Shot, I mean literally twisted it in half
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Uh on big granite shelves. So, uh, that
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was a whole adventure unto itself
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Had we had a spare ready to go?
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As little as 139 dollars to bolt onto the
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onto the roll cage and
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have it there when you need it
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Boy, that's that's a little piece of
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assurance that that
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doesn't cost a whole lot
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Yeah, well, of course
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that's when you're still stock
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I mean the the jeep does
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have a four and a half inch lift
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It has the the transfer case drop on it
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so and so forth, but it
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still is a stock driveshaft
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So if you go, uh, and this is a dana 35
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and I guarantee you unless you're insane
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or don't know any better
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You're not going on the
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rubicon with a dana 35
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I'm probably now gonna say
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and i'm pretty sure this jeep
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In particular isn't going to be doing a
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whole lot of rock crawling in its near
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future. So it's it's safe
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Oh, she doesn't like the minor vibrations
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at 40 miles an hour. She
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ain't going on the rubicon. Sure
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So i'm supposed to question on
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everybody's mind at this point now is
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going to be did it solve the problem?
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It is fun to drive
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Uh, it has always been a very smooth
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Uh fun, uh a little a little bucky, you
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know, but she it's a
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it's a two-door. It's a tj
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so it's short and it bucks a little bit
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jeep for fun to drive and
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and and they they're uh,
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They're an active vehicle
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and so they it's what makes jeeps fun to
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drive to begin with is because
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It's not a Cadillac that you can steer
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with your pinky and almost
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just auto drive down the road
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You've got to be a driver to pilot a jeep
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and uh, and you can feel it. Yeah, you
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can feel what you're doing
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Yeah, you definitely have a connection to
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the vehicle and to the road and and
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whatever else is beneath you
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And that's I think that's one of the
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biggest draws to owning a jeep. Yep. So
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it's uh, it's made a big difference
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My uh, my wife is taking care of her mom
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So she's been gone for a few days staying
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over at her mom's house and she's got she
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took the gladiator over there
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So, uh, I jumped in the uh, the tj today
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ran down and got a burger
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And it's just fun to drive. It's it you
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don't have I don't feel
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I mean i'm like I said
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I'm used to the vibrations not from the
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gladiator, of course,
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but from the xj. Oh, yeah
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It's you know, you get those vibrations.
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This is the way it is. But
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when you're you have a more
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enjoyable experience
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Whenever you're driving something that
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doesn't have those vibrations now, I did
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notice some slight vibrations
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Highway speeds the other day, but my wife
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hasn't yeah that could
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possibly be just wheels
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Tires need to be rebalanced or something
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like that, you know, I mean,
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I don't know how it was before
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So anyway, the the it's out of inspection
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my wife will refuse she's so special
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She refuses to drive it with
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with it not being inspected
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So i've got to get it inspected before
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she'll drive it again. She's anxious to
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get back in it. She she loves her tj
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and uh
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So now we we should be getting it
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inspected tomorrow. We tried the other
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day, but uh, very good
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I guess because the battery had gone down
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on it. Uh, the a couple of the tests that
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the ecu does hadn't completed
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Uh, so I checked today and they've
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completed so well, hopefully we'll get it
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inspected tomorrow and she
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can start driving her tj. But
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Um, man that that it's the
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tj is just a great vehicle
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It had been a while since you'd driven it
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at least on any kind of
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regular basis hadn't it?
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It hasn't been driven on a regular basis.
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I bet you in a couple of years
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Oh, wow. Okay. So this is almost a new
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experience for you. I mean, yeah, you've
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owned this rig for a long time
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We've had about 12 years
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Yes, and you haven't driven it recently
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and certainly not in the
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last couple years or so
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So yeah, it was probably a fresh
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experience for you to some regard
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Yeah, I drove it a little bit. I drove it
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a little bit about uh, three
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or three or four months ago
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Uh, but um here here recently more I went
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to sam's club. Oh, this is um,
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I know you we want to get on to the uh,
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the the electric jeeps
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But i'll tell you this this is hilarious
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and it goes to this
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not being used to a jeep
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Doesn't matter how long you okay, how
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long you've driven it
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Uh, and uh, how many years you've driven
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it if you haven't driven it in a while
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things can get confusing
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So I went to sam's club the
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other day to pick up some food
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And the groceries and I
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came back out to the tj
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Uh, it drove over there just fine. It was
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nice. It was pleasant to drive
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It was the first time I drove it since
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the the the drive shaft had been replaced
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And uh went out there loaded up the
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groceries in the front seat of the tj the
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passenger seat and then got in
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Hit the uh, and this one has a key that
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you have to turn to start it
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It's not like a little
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it's not a little push button
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And so your finger is muscle
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memory going to the dash it did
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The start button is it's not there, you
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know, you got to pull the
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key out put it in the slot
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So what's the what's the oh, yeah, I
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turned the key and it goes, you know
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It's it you heard the the the starter go
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and then it was kind of
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like a really short start
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I'm like and I don't the key didn't like
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Yeah, like half a crank if that yeah, and
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then I because of the the noise
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I think it was the air
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conditioner. The the fan was running
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I thought it was I thought the engine had
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started that thought well, that's
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strange. But if it it started just fine
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Okay, so that's the clue to this thing.
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So yeah, i'm ready. I put the seat belt
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on and close the door
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Uh put it in uh, you know, it's a
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standard. So I'll put it in reverse
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And it doesn't move push on the gas pedal
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it really nothing happens nothing happens
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I tried I tried going forward nothing
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happens. I'm like, oh shit. There's no
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way in hell that drive
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shaft could have fallen out
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Without me hearing it. It would have been
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clunk clunk clunk, you know, so but I had
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to put it in neutral
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See look down at the dash realize that
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the pack of omelettes on zero
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And I had I got out of the jeep
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And looked to see if the drive shaft was
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still connected the rear
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drive shaft was still connected
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And it's it's looking at me
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like what the fuck you doing?
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Yeah
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So I get in the jeep and I'm sitting
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there and I kind of give it some gas
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And it's not making the room room noise.
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I said is everything disconnected?
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Did everything disconnect from the you're
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at this point. You're still thinking the
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jeep is running. Yes
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And i'm giving it some gas and it's not
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making noise and I said well it's running
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I can hear it and uh
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And I looked over at the the gauges. I
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had looked at it before I looked the
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gauges the oil pressure was zero
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And I went I went yeah, I went there's no
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fucking way because the tapets would have
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been screaming at me
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Oh, yeah, you know and then I and then I
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looked over at the
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tachometer and it's a zero
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It wasn't running like oh genius. Yeah
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It wasn't running I
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was doing all this stuff
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I spent a good of a minute and a half
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trying to make a jeep
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that I had not started go
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Oh, man
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So I I mean I i've got similar
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experiences in that like i'm i'm
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frequently driving a 2025 chevy silverado
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2,500 that's my that's my
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office if you will. It's a daily
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Uh work vehicle and and it has the the
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keyless start. Oh fancy. Yeah, i'm a dash
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And and my daily driver,
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however is a 1993 honda a course
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Very old vehicle, right nowhere near you.
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Okay anything modern electronics are
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installed in that thing
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And so I frequently will get
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into my car and push the dash
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The finger just goes up and goes to the
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button because that's
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what I do 30 times a day
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I'm in and out of that rig, you know a
17:57
bunch throughout the day
17:59
And so all of that muscle memory has
18:01
built up over the last, you know year and
18:03
a half or so that we've had the truck
18:05
And and getting into any other vehicles
18:08
the same sort of thing
18:09
I've got the muscle memory that pushes
18:10
the finger up towards the dash
18:12
To a button that either is or isn't there
18:14
depending on which vehicle i'm in
18:16
Yeah, it's amazing and I felt like such
18:19
an idiot and I thought about it and went,
18:20
you know, it's not like I don't know
18:22
This vehicle it's not like I
18:23
didn't drive an xj for 25 years
18:26
It's basically the same same exact jeep.
18:29
It's just I haven't
18:30
driven it in a long time
18:32
So, uh, yeah, anyway, I went I turned the
18:35
key and started it up
18:36
and everything was fine
18:37
But I was in a bit of a panic mode
18:38
because uh, I bet I think I think my my
18:41
wife I was driving the gladiator
18:43
I mean I was driving the tj because my
18:44
wife was at her mom's house
18:46
before
18:47
Taking care of her so and I wasn't going
18:50
to call my wife to come get me and then
18:52
even she comes to get me
18:54
What's that going to do?
18:55
The to get a bit of work all the thoughts
18:58
that are going on calling the way
18:59
Wheel pressures the drive line drop
19:01
what's wrong with the jeep?
19:02
Do I got a call triple a you got to get
19:04
out look got to do
19:05
inspection what's going on now?
19:07
I mean I can do the
19:08
emotional roller coaster
19:11
And it's just because i'm a dumbass
19:13
Well, you know
19:14
It's it's muscle memory and things like
19:16
that and we get used to things and you
19:18
know old dog new tricks that
19:19
I hadn't driven it so long and uh just
19:21
used to the gladiator. So
19:23
anyway, uh, like I was saying
19:25
Earlier, I think maybe before we started
19:26
recording. I went and got
19:27
a hamburger today and uh,
19:29
Uh, it just drove over there got it. It's
19:32
it's a it's pleasant to drive
19:34
Uh, it's smoother and and pleasant more
19:37
pleasant to drive and uh, thankfully we
19:39
don't have any other issues like with
19:41
synchronizers or anything
19:43
So it's it shifts great. Um
19:45
It's uh, you have to kind of get a little
19:47
used to it because it doesn't I don't
19:49
jerk around but I jerk
19:50
around more than what
19:51
I would normally do if
19:52
it's a standard transmission
19:54
Right, but you know how you get used to
19:55
the standard transmission and you can
19:56
make it smooth and anticipate stuff
19:59
So i'd have to drive it, you know a few
20:01
more times. But anyway, the
20:02
all the the tests have cleared
20:04
uh, and uh, my uh, my daughter that works
20:07
in a Mercedes dealership is going to come
20:09
by and pick it up in the morning
20:10
Take it get it inspected and then i'll uh
20:13
get the tags updated
20:14
on it and then we'll see
20:16
How how often my wife and then you can
20:18
get your gladiator back
20:20
I'm more than happy. I mean i'm i'm
20:22
really happy that uh, that susie enjoys
20:24
the gladiators much as she does
20:25
She really really likes it and I think it
20:28
Says a lot about her as being a a jeep
20:30
person that she wants to get her tga back
20:32
where she can drive it
20:33
She really clearly a jeep family. I mean
20:36
you you married the right
20:37
wife. You got great kids
20:39
They all drive jeeps. I mean what more
20:40
could a guy ask for?
20:43
All right, josh, so uh
20:45
There was some uh terrible lie you were
20:47
going to tell us about
20:48
Electric jeeps from china. There's
20:50
there's a rumor. This
20:51
isn't fully substantiated yet
20:54
I've only seen a couple of headlines
20:56
about this so far and I haven't had the
20:58
chance to delve into this yet
20:59
But I figured i'd go ahead and and what
21:01
we could talk about at
21:02
least from a you know,
21:03
3000 foot flyover level about what this
21:06
is and what it could mean
21:07
so, um back in 2022
21:10
Jeep removed manufacturing
21:12
from china. They had a small
21:15
Automotive manufacturing presence in
21:17
china and I think we had
21:18
talked about it at the time
21:20
When the change happened and and it was
21:23
just it was more of a
21:23
less bottom line decision
21:26
Jeeps really weren't
21:27
selling in japan over in china
21:30
There wasn't a whole lot of demand for it
21:32
There's certainly not a lot of
21:33
off-roading opportunities over there
21:35
Uh for jeeps and so they they really
21:38
weren't doing that well
21:39
And so it was timed for jeep to sort of
21:41
pull up stakes. Let's cut our losses
21:43
Isn't really producing so
21:45
we're going to pull out of china
21:47
All fine and dandy, you know fast forward
21:50
four or five years and jeep is now
21:52
looking at what china is doing
21:54
And if you've been living under a rock
21:55
the last year or two
21:57
Then it's time for you to wake up because
21:59
china is absolutely dominating the market
22:02
when it comes to evs
22:03
now
22:04
We've long since talked about evs whether
22:07
or not the the world or
22:09
the us even is ready for them
22:11
Uh, the electric grid isn't really ready
22:13
for it. Uh, they're not really selling
22:15
the us doesn't really the us market
22:17
doesn't really want them
22:19
They're more expensive
22:20
Uh, there it's it's one of those things
22:22
where if you got to put, you know pork
22:23
chop around the kid's
22:24
neck to make the dog
22:25
Play with it, you know, you really want
22:27
it type of thing and and so and once the
22:29
subsidies sort of go away
22:31
The sales absolutely plummet and so ev
22:35
sales here in the us
22:36
aren't doing that great either
22:38
Fast forward over to china rather and
22:40
they've got evs now that have
22:42
capabilities of a thousand miles
22:44
They're not being imported
22:45
here to the us because of
22:47
reasons
22:48
Uh, and they're apparently let me let me
22:50
speak to that really that really quick
22:52
because I don't think you know this
22:54
Um, they are not they
22:56
cannot be sold here legally
22:58
The united states does not allow chinese.
23:01
Uh evs to be here because of the uh,
23:04
Because china is known
23:06
to collect information
23:07
on americans and
23:09
sometimes the ones that they
23:11
Uh collect information
23:13
on our military personnel
23:14
Uh political uh
23:16
figures, uh, so on and so forth
23:18
So they are not legal to be
23:21
sold here in the united states
23:24
That absolutely makes a lot of sense. I
23:25
mean we were looking at uh, why a lot of
23:28
state officials were
23:29
Being forced to remove tick tock from
23:31
their personal phones
23:32
because certain phones
23:34
Yeah, yeah, and and even so yeah having
23:36
certain devices, uh, yeah
23:38
where it was illegal because of
23:40
State secrets and national security
23:42
interests and you know, all that sort of
23:44
stuff and china is definitely
23:46
No stranger to intellectual property
23:48
theft. So, um, yeah, I
23:50
absolutely understand
23:52
Why that why that's
23:54
happening now that being said, um
23:57
Allegedly jeep is wanting to capitalize
24:00
on this ev boom happening over in china
24:04
now
24:05
Jeep has sort of toyed around with the a
24:07
couple of ideas over the last four or
24:08
five years about an all electric jeep
24:11
We've seen uh hints about the recon
24:13
having an all ev edition and and that
24:16
being sort of their their flagship ev
24:19
If you will and and whether or not that's
24:21
going to work here in the u.s
24:22
Is still I think up for debate
24:24
But I think that jeep is making a solid
24:25
move here because they're seeing
24:27
What china is doing how the market is
24:29
shifting over there and I think they want
24:31
to get back into that market
24:33
They were there before they had a
24:34
presence they're gone and now they want
24:36
to return but they want to do it
24:38
Sort of with earmarks. They want to do it
24:41
as a china a chinese
24:43
automaker, but with the jeep brand
24:45
But solely ev and
24:47
there's rumors that those evs
24:50
Manufactured in china under the jeep
24:52
brand will be
24:54
imported out here or exported
24:56
Over here to the u.s. Now whether or not
24:58
that's going to happen whether or not
25:00
they're going to be
25:00
bare bones and all the
25:02
All the electronics will be sourced and
25:05
installed here in the u.s
25:06
I don't know what that's going to look
25:07
like how it's all going to work out what
25:09
the details are again
25:11
I haven't had a chance to really delve
25:12
into this too deep. It's just sort of
25:14
Uh headlines at this point, but there's
25:17
enough out there that it
25:19
looks like this is going to happen
25:21
And 2027 allegedly is going to be the
25:24
timeline as to when the imports are going
25:27
to start coming over
25:28
Yeah, I don't know
25:29
what's going on in washington
25:30
I don't know what kind of deals they're
25:31
working. Maybe they'll change the laws
25:34
for specific for the jeep specific
25:36
Chinese made
25:38
Vehicles, but as it stands right now,
25:40
they ain't coming here. They may be going
25:42
to mexico. They may be
25:43
going to european union
25:44
They may be going to canada, but uh,
25:47
well, I could see
25:47
chinese-made jeep ain't gonna be here
25:50
I could see them kind
25:51
of doing what ford did?
25:53
Back when during the chip shortage where
25:55
you know, they were making vehicles, but
25:57
they didn't have any chips in them
25:59
I mean they had some wires in them, but
26:01
all the processors were
26:02
Not there well, they were going and
26:04
taking chips out of vehicles that they
26:06
couldn't sell if I remember right. Yeah
26:08
Yeah, so it was the rob peter to pay paul
26:10
sort of thing exactly and so I could see
26:13
a version of that potentially
26:15
circumventing the us laws against you
26:18
know, chinese intellectual property theft
26:20
and stuff coming over here
26:21
so I mean there's there's no other way
26:24
around it unless they
26:26
Put an asterisk on that law and say okay
26:29
Well if it's from jeep then I don't know
26:31
the next then you don't know who the next
26:32
president's going to be
26:33
or what political party
26:34
Right and that can make
26:35
a whole different change
26:37
The timeline is 2027 on this. So this is
26:40
next year that we're talking about and I
26:43
don't know if that means 2027 models
26:46
or coming in 2027
26:48
2028 models because you know
26:50
usually the the the year model
26:53
Starts being manufactured
26:55
about a half a year ahead of that
26:58
And so, you know in about you know, june
27:00
july august around that year
27:03
You'll have the next year's model
27:05
being manufactured so a
27:08
2027 is being manufactured as we speak
27:11
right now because we're
27:12
halfway through the year already
27:14
Those models are already in manufacture
27:16
to come out in the first quarter of 2027
27:19
You can't manufacture a car
27:21
in 2027 and have it ready to go
27:24
That you know in the first quarter
27:26
beginning manufacturing january 1st
27:28
It has to happen ahead of time just
27:30
because of supply chains and how long it
27:32
takes to build a vehicle, etc, etc, etc
27:35
Yeah, um, you know,
27:37
we're talking about uh,
27:38
Indirectly we were talking about how the
27:40
chinese government could track
27:43
uh people uh military personnel, uh
27:46
People part of the trump administration
27:48
so and so forth how they could track them
27:50
and get information on them.
27:51
Maybe even deep information
27:53
I mean there's uh, there's car play
27:55
So they may be able to get information
27:56
from a phone that is
27:58
connected to the vehicle to the e.v
28:00
So I can understand why the the u.s
28:03
government doesn't want
28:04
chinese evs here. But what if it was?
28:08
People that were collecting information
28:10
in the united states
28:12
legally
28:13
Tracking your every move
28:16
This is a subject doing that anyways
28:18
Yeah, I know. I know. This is a subject
28:19
that we talked about on
28:21
this week's round table
28:23
Uh, and we had a really good conversation
28:25
about that if you're not
28:26
familiar with our round table
28:27
We meet every tuesday
28:29
night 7 30 p.m central time
28:31
And you just go to jeep talk show.com
28:33
slash contact to find out the detailed
28:35
information. Anybody can
28:36
join. It's a zoom meeting
28:37
and
28:38
The the question I posed was uh, what do
28:41
you think about flock cameras?
28:43
Josh you have to have an opinion about
28:47
flock cameras. I know you
28:49
so it's been interesting because there's
28:51
there's been a lot of of
28:53
that in the news lately and uh
28:56
One of the most recent stories that comes
28:58
to mind is about a um a
28:59
homeowner's association
29:01
That wanted to use and now flock is just
29:04
a brand like xerox. Yeah, you know, we
29:07
talk about, you know
29:07
Making a xerox or or whatever. Um, you
29:10
know, it's it's just a brand
29:11
And so it's the automatic license plate
29:14
reader alpr cameras is sort of the
29:17
umbrella in which they fall under flock
29:18
is under that umbrella
29:20
Just one of many other brands that are
29:22
out there doing this sort of thing and
29:24
and it is essentially
29:25
just metadata collection
29:27
Looking at at license plates. It reads
29:29
can read like a thousand
29:30
license plates in a minute
29:31
um, and uh, it it sort of
29:34
Tracks not necessarily tracks. It just
29:36
says this license plate was here at this
29:38
time and another camera will
29:40
see that same license plate
29:41
And it will register that plate at here
29:43
at that time and another one will see
29:45
that same license plate
29:46
And now it's here at
29:47
this time and all that
29:50
That data gets, you know, uh correlated
29:52
into a massive amount of metadata that
29:55
goes and it's a is a nationwide database
29:58
That's yes
30:00
Correlated by uh, ai which of course so
30:03
if this is people off
30:05
If if you're if you're suddenly a suspect
30:08
in your wife's murder
30:09
Well, then they can go back to that flock
30:11
data and sort of track your movements as
30:13
to where you where you were and when
30:15
And you were saying
30:16
well, you know, I was at work
30:17
Well, the flock camera showed you over
30:19
here in the next town over
30:20
When you said that you were supposed to
30:21
be at work, you know, so there's
30:23
definitely some good things that can come
30:25
of automatic license
30:27
If you've got you know, um, I mean we
30:30
look at amber alerts that happen
30:32
We get them out here probably once a
30:34
month or so I see an amber
30:36
where amber where it pop up
30:37
Having the alp. How about a
30:38
stolen jeep or a stolen honda?
30:43
Yeah, if only those things were around
30:45
when I had my honda stolen so many times
30:47
back in the day. Yeah, no doubt
30:49
Um, but again, it's it's those sorts of
30:51
things that make them so valuable
30:54
Now there is the
30:55
other side of that pancake
30:57
And it is what is that data being
30:59
collected for could that data
31:01
be used for anterior motives?
31:03
Could it be used for for you know things
31:06
that some people don't like now?
31:09
Obviously if you are a crime committer
31:12
Um, you may not like the
31:13
idea of that if if you are
31:17
A fan of people getting
31:18
away with committing crimes
31:19
Well, you probably are not a fan of that
31:23
kind of technology being readily
31:25
available and used in almost every
31:27
City what kind of world i'm sorry. What
31:29
kind of world would this be?
31:31
If you're going out to do a
31:32
protest, let's say in oregon
31:34
and
31:35
Unfortunately, it becomes a mostly a
31:38
mostly uh, mostly peaceful protest
31:41
And you can be identified as the people
31:45
that were turning cars
31:46
over or just a championship
31:49
that people that uh
31:50
Wins and you had go out there and people
31:52
are messing around I think and I think
31:54
everybody knows that
31:55
they can be identified
31:57
By these flock cameras and prosecuted
32:00
It's it's like it's like
32:02
an armed public at the time
32:04
No, no, no this thing tracks. It doesn't
32:07
just track license plates.
32:08
Josh. It tracks the vehicle
32:10
The color of the vehicle and it can see
32:13
the person inside the vehicle all this
32:16
goes into the database
32:17
It's not just license plates
32:21
But
32:22
Essentially it is only vehicles
32:24
So if you walked biked skateboarder to
32:27
e-bike took the bus to the protest
32:30
I mean, it might catch the bus, but it's
32:32
not going to catch you. These aren't
32:34
watching your movements
32:36
You're watching the movements of
32:37
vehicles. I'll have to
32:38
check it, but I think it is
32:40
in a vehicle or not, I mean
32:42
The title of the camera is an alpr an
32:46
automatic license plate reader
32:48
That's what they're
32:49
designed for that's what they do
32:51
They don't really have facial
32:53
recognition software built in
32:56
They don't recognize
32:57
that's tony driving that jeep
32:59
It will probably recognize or put in a
33:02
white male driving the
33:03
jeep or something like that
33:05
I don't even know if the metadata goes
33:06
that deep. I don't think that it does
33:09
Because the again the cameras are
33:11
essentially at least this is the way that
33:13
they're designed and marketed
33:15
Are for automatic license plate reading
33:17
only now they they may
33:19
See other things. I don't know if that
33:21
data is collected. I mean we talk about
33:23
color of the vehicle
33:24
direction of travel things like that
33:26
Obviously maybe even
33:27
speed and things like that
33:28
Obviously those can all be
33:30
part of the data collection
33:31
But whether or not it is recognizing that
33:33
it is tony driving that jeep or whether
33:35
it is josh driving that honda or whatever
33:37
It may be I don't think it goes that far
33:40
So it's not tracking your movements per
33:43
se you walk out of the house and the
33:44
camera down the end of the street
33:46
Isn't watching you walk out your door.
33:48
Maybe the camera across the street on
33:50
your neighbor's front door is
33:53
You got to look at that at ring cameras
33:55
and and and things like that whether or
33:57
not those are collecting data
33:59
I mean because those are on all the time
34:01
And we see videos all the time on youtube
34:04
and other places tick tock and facebook
34:06
and other social media platforms
34:08
and and people have lightning strike
34:10
videos or the the the garbage truck
34:12
driver who inherently
34:13
hits a garbage can or the
34:15
Kid that eats shit on in the road, right,
34:17
you know riding his bike, you know all
34:18
funny or entertaining, etc, etc
34:21
But those are collecting a
34:22
lot more data if you will
34:24
About your personal movements than the
34:26
alpr cameras the flock cameras that
34:28
everybody has a big problem with
34:30
And the way that
34:31
people are using the data
34:33
And I think that that's where the the
34:36
line in the sand is
34:37
is is is getting wrong
34:39
Recently that got in trouble
34:43
for tracking their their exes
34:45
So I looked it up real quick and you're
34:46
right. It doesn't
34:47
officially doesn't track people
34:49
The standard falcon alpr cameras are
34:52
designed to photograph the rear of
34:55
passion passing cars
34:57
And extract plate make model color and
35:00
visible extras racks
35:02
trailers damage stickers stickers
35:06
So the g talk show is on somebody's radar
35:09
Identifiable identifiable features. Yeah,
35:12
so one of the times that my car
35:14
there was a 1996 honda accord that I
35:16
owned at the time and and it got stolen
35:18
from me five different times and
35:21
One of the times that it was recovered
35:24
was because of an alpr camera really
35:27
A city police officer was on his regular
35:31
patrol and he was just driving down the
35:33
street and he got a
35:34
notification on his screen
35:36
You just passed a car that
35:37
is on the stolen vehicle list
35:39
And so he looks at the information. It
35:41
says it's a it's a green honda accord
35:44
license plate this yada yada yada
35:46
He backs up verifies the vehicle is that
35:48
vehicle and it is
35:49
sitting right there indeed?
35:51
And I got a phone call five minutes later
35:53
and it says we have your vehicle
35:55
It is sitting at this street at this
35:56
intersection. Would
35:57
you like to come get it?
35:59
and and of course, there's a lot of other
36:01
questions is it in one piece are there
36:02
wheels and tires on it because
36:04
Multiple times i've gotten it back with
36:07
it in different pieces and no wheels and
36:09
tires on it, etc, etc
36:10
so, you know, it's one
36:12
of those things where
36:13
If you are a law abiding citizen and
36:17
everybody in your circle
36:18
is a law abiding citizen
36:19
You've got literally not a fucking thing
36:22
to worry about right?
36:23
So don't get your panties in a bunch over
36:25
something that you don't understand
36:27
That you don't fully grasp the concept of
36:29
and are mad about because the social
36:32
media platform that you're
36:33
on so much tells you to be
36:34
Mad at it. It's it's one of these things
36:36
that people don't understand
36:38
People get angry and upset over things
36:40
that they don't fully
36:41
understand. I think there's a
36:43
That going on with the flock cameras
36:46
because yeah, they again,
36:48
it's just a company name
36:49
They're being associated with this and
36:51
it's really too bad because there's a lot
36:52
of negativity in the
36:53
news about them, right?
36:54
So this is a perfect example of the two
36:56
sides of this coin where you don't like
36:59
being monitored by the flock camera
37:01
But if your vehicle is stolen and you get
37:03
a call from a police officer
37:05
Because the cop did even have to think it
37:08
was just an automated thing that went off
37:10
So it makes it really much more likely
37:13
for that to be found than somebody that's
37:15
checking every
37:16
license plate that they see
37:17
And so the one side of you may not like
37:20
to be tracked may not want
37:21
to be seen what you're doing
37:23
Even if you're not a criminal, you just
37:25
don't like the idea of it
37:26
But the other side of you getting your
37:27
vehicle back is like
37:28
well, that's kind of cool
37:29
I kind of like that and I think that's
37:31
the problem that we have
37:32
with the flock camera is people
37:34
Like the anonymity that they think they
37:36
have but you have no reasonable
37:39
Expectation of anonymity anonymity. What
37:42
did it what right the first time you step
37:44
out your door once you
37:45
step out of your public
37:46
Your private little
37:46
bubble you are no longer
37:49
Anonymous, you don't have any right to
37:51
anonymity. You are in the public space
37:53
And therefore anything and everything
37:55
that you do is open to public scrutiny
37:58
Whether you like it or
37:59
not, that's just the way it is
38:02
And if you don't like being tracked and
38:04
you don't like flock cameras because of
38:06
that well, then you should be
38:07
vehemently mad and angry over ring and
38:11
nest and all the other
38:13
Out there on everybody's freaking front
38:16
door. I guarantee you those are tracking
38:19
your movements a lot more than the
38:20
freaking flock cameras are
38:22
Yeah
38:23
And and that's kind of my point. So
38:26
This for the record, I don't like flock
38:28
cameras. I don't like it being tracked
38:30
It's just like a police officer pulling
38:32
you over and say hey,
38:33
can I search your vehicle?
38:34
My answer will always be no
38:36
Not because I have anything in there.
38:38
It's because that's a human being and
38:40
depending on what they want to do
38:42
They could plant evidence and then I
38:44
would not be in a very good
38:45
that would not be a very happy
38:47
Happy tony and
38:48
definitely not a happy jeeper
38:49
Josh things often work out the the way
38:52
you want them to sometimes they don't uh,
38:54
I don't know how good a segue
38:55
That is but I want to talk about t-shirts
38:58
Like oh shit, somebody's selling
39:00
something as soon as I
39:01
said t-shirts they went oh
39:03
Then we're gonna we're gonna get barraged
39:05
about being sold
39:05
something and yes you are
39:09
So it's okay because it's really cool
39:11
stuff I gave you the the link jeep talk
39:13
show.com slash store you did
39:15
Did you check it out losing through it? I
39:17
did dude, and there's a
39:19
few things I have in a cart
39:20
I uh, yeah, you've got a ghost cart
39:22
sitting on there right now. It's all mine
39:24
Uh, yeah, there's there's several items
39:26
in there that i'm i'm i'm gonna be
39:27
pulling the trigger on so
39:29
really cool stuff and and
39:31
Look, yeah, i'm a part of the show and
39:34
i'm gonna be buying this stuff
39:35
Okay
39:35
So if i'm gonna be buying this stuff from
39:37
the show that i'm doing
39:39
I sure the hell think that
39:40
you can do the same thing, too
39:41
Well, we've got this we've got the fuck
39:43
you you fucking fuck
39:44
Or how is this gonna be a
39:46
barn burner right there?
39:47
Everybody's gonna buy that that's gonna
39:48
be a sellout right
39:49
that's gonna be a good one
39:50
It's even on a coffee cup as well as and
39:53
how about a nice big
39:54
Stott steaming cup of shut the fuck up. I
39:57
think that's a great monday coffee cup
39:59
Yeah, no doubt
40:01
No doubt
40:02
Yeah, you want to you definitely want to
40:04
have one of these on your desk
40:05
Are sitting up on the on the counter for
40:07
for saturday morning something like that
40:09
Definitely, there's some great shirts on
40:11
there as well. The the
40:12
artistry, uh, is just fantastic
40:16
You definitely got to get behind this if
40:17
you're looking for any
40:19
other way to support the show
40:20
You don't want to get into a monthly
40:21
subscription or something like that. Go
40:22
over there. Go buy a
40:23
mug. Go buy a t-shirt
40:25
We got some really cool stuff at jeep
40:26
talk show.com slash shop.
40:28
So where's it slash store?
40:31
Shop slash shop shop. Okay. I got it
40:33
right. So tell me tell me honestly
40:35
because the one the first one that I did
40:38
was the something we had talked about on
40:40
the show in the past about uh,
40:42
uh the
40:43
Uh the spotters, you know you get a
40:45
spotter that just jumps up
40:47
there in front of your jeep and
40:49
Right, right, right. I mean passenger,
40:51
you know that kind of gives you a clue
40:52
that they don't know
40:52
what the fuck they're doing
40:54
And and there's no
40:56
spotter
40:57
Certification, how do you know you can
40:59
trust that spotter with
41:01
the your your valuable jeep?
41:03
It can be a 30 year old jeep, but it's
41:05
still valuable to you and all the time
41:07
and effort that you put into it
41:09
So does he have a paps blue ribbon in his
41:11
hand or not? That's
41:12
that's going to be exactly
41:14
so we have a certified
41:16
Spotter t-shirt that you can get and I
41:19
think you can get it in orange, you know,
41:21
like safety orange or safety yellow
41:23
Oh, yeah, that'd be here. Look at me and
41:25
there's a rating and it has a rating on
41:27
the on the t-shirt itself
41:29
Uh, a one to five bottles of
41:31
beer, uh is the rating right?
41:35
So if you know if you've ever been
41:38
spotted, uh off-road, you
41:39
know what i'm talking about
41:41
There's a spotter there and maybe if
41:43
you're lucky it's only one
41:44
Uh, it's not two people don't listen to
41:47
him and there's three people on the rock
41:49
over here screaming at you
41:51
Everybody's an expert spotter and you got
41:53
four people barking directions at you
41:55
None of them know what they're talking
41:56
about. So mark yourself
41:58
as a certified spotter
42:00
So that you get the respect of the
42:01
attention you deserve by
42:03
getting one of these t-shirts
42:06
It's like josh was saying
42:07
g talk show.com slash shop
42:09
Oh, and I do have to say this because we
42:12
confuse some people
42:12
with the voicemail thing
42:13
People were going to the voicemail and
42:15
going they thought it was a scam type
42:17
thing because they were being redirected
42:19
So this this shop is
42:20
not on jeep talk show
42:22
It's with a I think it's called fourth
42:24
wall is the the people that the store
42:27
That puts together the t-shirts and sends
42:29
them out to you. So, uh, this is the same
42:31
deal you go to jeep talk show.com
42:33
Slash shop and it's going to take you to
42:35
the fourth wall, but you'll see jts
42:38
You'll see the the shirts and everything
42:39
the the mugs that are there. Definitely
42:41
jeep talk show all over the place
42:43
So just make sure it's on the up and up.
42:45
Yeah, so go over there and check it out
42:47
If you've got ideas for t-shirts, let me
42:50
know steve. Oh gave me
42:51
one. Uh, that is is one
42:53
I'm surprised I didn't think of which is
42:54
death wobble. I don't think
42:56
you've seen that one yet. Josh
42:58
You know I survived death wobble. Yes
43:00
t-shirt. Yeah, I did see that one
43:02
I think that's one of the ones that's in
43:05
my yeah, it's got the the
43:07
grim reaper and stuff. Yeah
43:10
I love ai and I'll just tell you guys ai
43:13
made all that as those graphics
43:14
I mean I came up with the words. I give a
43:16
shit. I know it's gorgeous
43:18
great and they look awesome
43:19
Yeah, no doubt. So yeah, if the jeep talk
43:22
show can make a few pennies off off of
43:23
that and help keep the lights on then
43:25
Yeah, i'll talk. Oh
43:27
I'm all for it. And one more. I know you
43:29
saw this one. Uh, uh, I know nikki g
43:33
Oh, yeah, that was a great where I met
43:35
nikki g or something. I know
43:36
Yeah, I know nikki g. I know nikki g.
43:39
Yeah, that's got a cartoon. It's got it.
43:40
It's got a a character of
43:42
Of nikki g and it looks like him even so
43:45
great. So I did uh, I did one more
43:48
That has nikki g on the back and it shows
43:51
the back of his head that's on your back
43:53
So it shows nikki g from the front on the
43:55
front and nikki g from the back on the
43:56
back from the back. That's great
43:59
Anyway, I can keep talking about this
44:01
stuff on and on one one other thing. I
44:03
wanted to mention, uh, and josh
44:06
We were talking offline and you were
44:08
looking at this before we recorded last
44:10
week, I believe uh, the jts flicks
44:13
It is the g talk show in a netflix format
44:18
So boy, is it ever
44:20
It the super professional very very
44:24
intuitive. Absolutely
44:26
Uh gorgeous to look at everything is
44:29
right there. I mean you
44:30
can see you know, probably
44:33
A dozen maybe two dozen, uh thumbnails on
44:35
the screen all at once you
44:37
can kind of pick things out
44:38
It it remembers your
44:40
selections it filters things out
44:42
You can filter by the vehicle that you
44:43
own or what you want
44:44
to listen to and stuff
44:46
There's all kinds of categories and stuff
44:48
too. Uh, you can you know, just listen or
44:50
look at all the chick chat
44:52
Uh videos and stuff as well. I mean
44:54
everything is there it
44:55
is and it's all laid out
44:57
Really amazing and it's it's it's
45:00
phenomenal go check that out
45:02
If you if you want to check out anything
45:03
from the from the jeep talk show
45:05
Go check that out because that's going to
45:06
impress you. So if you'd like
45:08
to know how to install that app
45:10
You can't it is not an app. There is
45:13
nothing to install. It is a website
45:17
Yeah, you just go to jeep talk show calm.
45:21
Yeah jeep talk. I'm too excited
45:23
jeep talk show calm slash watch
45:26
And you get all this stuff and you get it
45:28
on your mobile you get it on your desktop
45:30
You get it on your laptop you get it on
45:31
your tablet. There's nothing to install.
45:34
There's nothing to update
45:35
It's just a built-in
45:36
player too, isn't it?
45:38
Yeah, absolutely. And you just go there
45:40
you get a player right there in the
45:41
middle of your screen and the absolute
45:43
Fantastic thing I think about is you
45:46
could get a little a little small player
45:49
That stays on top so you can move it
45:51
around on your screen
45:52
Go back to your work go
45:54
back to doing something else
45:55
Uh, and you got the player
45:57
right there on the screen
45:58
If you got multiple screens, you can move
46:00
it off to another screen and just glance
46:02
at it whenever there's something
46:03
interesting that you want to see
46:05
Uh, it just allows you to binge
46:08
The jeep talk show I looked at it as
46:11
something you could
46:11
do while you're at work
46:13
Not you josh because
46:13
you're driving but no
46:16
Yeah, if you're if you're like me, you
46:17
probably don't want to uh, do it during
46:19
the work day because
46:19
you're going to be driving a lot
46:20
And that's probably not a good idea, but
46:23
it does work on a mobile
46:24
I mean it doesn't allow you to get the
46:25
small thing all that stuff
46:27
But so you can just start it on the
46:28
mobile and then you can uh turn the
46:30
screen off and now you're listening to it
46:32
But you still have that one place that
46:34
you can go to jeep talk show.com
46:36
Slash watch and just catch up with all
46:38
the episodes. It's just the whole idea is
46:40
making it convenient for you
46:42
to uh to uh, watch
46:44
the show or listen to it
46:47
Boy look how look how we're just setting
46:48
things up for you guys. Just put it right
46:50
out there on a silver platter for you
46:52
Yep, absolutely. So, uh, oh and I i've
46:55
seldom mentioned this but
46:57
i'm going to mention it today
46:59
You have to ask you can't just uh wait
47:01
for it to roll in i'd like to use the uh,
47:04
Uh, the the the one I use where you're at
47:06
the the junior high dance
47:08
You're standing along the wall. You're
47:09
leaning up against the wall and you're
47:11
waiting for the girl
47:11
to come ask you to dance
47:13
Well, it's probably not going to happen
47:15
So i'm going to ask you guys to dance
47:18
uh, i'm going to be the bold one to go
47:20
over there and ask you to
47:21
Uh, if you like the show share it with
47:24
somebody go out there
47:25
and tell them about it
47:27
Uh and uh, let them know about uh, the
47:30
the netflix style interface that we have
47:32
Uh, and they can just go to jeep talk
47:34
show.com. It's right there on the top
47:36
Jts flicks as is our shop. So you don't
47:39
have to remember much just go to jeep
47:41
talk show.com and uh,
47:42
Click on the various things and then you
47:44
can get there and the share the uh, share
47:47
the qr code with uh, with with folks
47:49
Right there on your
47:50
phone. They can use their phone
47:51
I mean you go to jeep talk show.com qr
47:53
code is right there on the main page
47:55
Show it to them on your phone. They can
47:57
scan it on their phone
47:58
and now they're trapped
47:59
I mean now they're enjoying good content.
48:01
I'm just i'm picturing a junior high
48:03
tony. Excuse me, suzy
48:06
Could I please have
48:07
this chance? You know, it's
48:11
Oh man i'm cracking myself up. Yeah.
48:13
Yeah. Well, I mean
48:13
what was it 16 candles?
48:15
It was that uh, that infamous scene where
48:17
they're all standing there
48:18
uh along the wall, uh at the dance all
48:21
the wall flowers, yeah
48:24
Timely reference tony
48:25
timely reference as usual
48:29
Well, you know, it was the other thing we
48:30
did on the on the round
48:31
table again round tables, uh,
48:33
Jeep talk show.com slash contact learn
48:35
how to join us on tuesday night 7 30
48:38
One of the things we were talking about
48:39
because it wasn't jeep
48:40
related. It was movies
48:42
We were talking about who was in movies
48:44
and uh, I remember roger was getting a
48:46
lot of people wrong apparently
48:47
Every movie, uh, that roger has seen
48:50
charlie sheen has been in
48:51
I was like charlie
48:52
sheen was not in that movie
48:53
He was not in lost boys.
48:56
Yeah, he wasn't in lost boys
48:59
He thought a milieu and uh
49:02
And charlie were in lost
49:04
boys the frog brothers. Jeez
49:05
So we had we had a good time talking
49:07
about movies and everybody
49:08
loves talking about movies
49:10
I thought that was really funny because
49:12
it's it's something that i've i've kind
49:13
of been wanting to do as a segment here
49:17
I don't get a chance to sit down in front
49:18
of the tv a whole lot especially for a
49:20
any lengthy period of time
49:21
But it seems like every
49:22
time that I turn on the tv
49:25
And i'm watching
49:26
something there's a jeep in it
49:28
It's a show at the movie. It's a series
49:30
whatever it may be
49:31
sometimes even a commercial
49:33
98 of what is on the screen ends up
49:36
having a jeep in it. It's not on purpose
49:37
It's not like i'm watching jeep related
49:39
flicks or anything like that. I'm
49:41
watching, you know
49:41
episodes of the jeep talk show
49:43
This is just it happened it started back
49:46
when we were doing uh, the
49:47
walking dead episodes and stuff
49:48
Oh there was so many jeeps. Yeah, we just
49:50
talked about that like
49:52
2014 2016 I mean something
49:54
like that like 10 plus years
49:56
This has been going on and it's it's just
49:58
it's one of those things where and I need
50:00
to start getting a log book
50:01
Gone to where it's just like
50:03
on this date on this channel
50:05
I was watching this at
50:06
this time and on this scene
50:07
I saw this jeep and it's just like and I
50:09
can have this whole
50:10
like library of of you know
50:12
instances that jeeps were in you know
50:15
Some kind of a media format whether it be
50:17
a series or a movie or
50:18
whatever it be but just my luck
50:20
I don't know. It's one of those things to
50:21
where it's like as
50:22
soon as you own a red jeep
50:23
All sudden that's all you see is red
50:25
jeep. Yeah, and so it's it's yeah
50:28
Maybe it's just one of those things that
50:29
you know, because i'm such a
50:30
jeep guy i'm looking for it
50:32
I just happened to see the the lone zj
50:35
sitting over in the back field in the one
50:37
scene for a half a second
50:38
You know, I was like there was a jeep.
50:39
There it was. I saw it
50:42
I
50:42
I just want to let you know that I
50:45
invented a thought
50:46
controlled air freshener
50:49
Yeah, everybody said it was dumb
50:51
But it makes sense
50:54
It makes sense if you think about it
50:57
Yeah, I think I screwed that up
50:59
sense sense
51:01
Makes sense if you think
51:02
about it third times the charm
51:05
The sound of a horn)
51:08
Still here glutton for more punishment
51:10
today. I saw saw a dwarf
51:12
climbing down a prison wall
51:13
Man, I thought to myself
51:15
that's a little condescending
51:17
It's a little condescending
51:20
Well, these wordplay jokes just ain't
51:21
working it. I don't
51:22
have to go back to the base
51:29
(Music)
51:36
You gotta dance with the one in brungya.
51:38
All right boys and girls i'll tell you to
51:39
have a good one. Bye.
51:40
None of this is making sense
51:47
So all too many times i'm uh, i'm seeing
51:49
jeeps when I probably
51:50
should or I shouldn't
51:51
Anyways, I go out my garage. I can see a
51:52
jeep anytime I want if you guys would
51:54
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51:56
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51:58
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52:27
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52:29
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52:30
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52:32
Love the emails. He had somebody reach
52:33
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52:37
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52:38
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52:40
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