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992 - Pop & Bravo pop culture roundup with Kate Casey! · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's producer Ingrid from Pink Shade.
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Speaker 2: Mary Payne wanted.
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Speaker 1: Me to let you know that she is doing very
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Speaker 1: well and appreciates all of your greetings. She had an
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Speaker 1: abdominal aneurysm a few nights ago and was fortunate to
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Speaker 1: receive immediate medical attention. She is going to take off
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Speaker 1: one more week while she recovers and looks forward to
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Speaker 1: talking about all the shit shows when she returns. Thank
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Speaker 1: you all for listening and for your patients, and we
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Speaker 1: will talk to you soon.
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Speaker 3: Bunkies, Hi there, welcome back for another episode of Pink Shade.
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Speaker 3: This is the Pop and Bravo episode, and I am
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Speaker 3: with you today.
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Speaker 2: I am Kit Casey.
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Speaker 3: I am host of Reality Life with Kit Casey, and
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Speaker 3: I'm doing eight makeover episode for Mary Pain this week.
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Speaker 3: And so many of the things that I'm going to
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Speaker 3: discuss I know that she equally gets fired up about,
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Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that you do too. There are so
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Speaker 3: many stories floating in pop culture, especially after over the
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Speaker 3: last few weeks, but in particular Bravo, I feel like
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Speaker 3: we have to first address what's going on on the
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Speaker 3: valley now. Mary Pain and I both think that Jacks
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Speaker 3: is probably one of the worst people that I've ever
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Speaker 3: been on reality TV, and that says a lot because
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Speaker 3: she watches a prodigious amount of TLC and the people
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Speaker 3: that have been on ninety Day Fiance have really ranked
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Speaker 3: themselves high up in the hierarchy of craziness. But Jacks
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Speaker 3: is one of those people who only looks out for themselves.
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Speaker 2: Is clearly a pathological.
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Speaker 3: Liar and will do anything to make the people in
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Speaker 3: his lives in his life their lives miserable. Brittany, I've
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Speaker 3: had empathy for for a long time because she married
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Speaker 3: this weirdo and they have a child with special needs,
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Speaker 3: and you can't help a feel for her. However, this
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Speaker 3: last episode, she was on my last nerve, and then
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Speaker 3: it makes me start to second guess some of the.
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Speaker 2: Empathy that I've had for her.
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Speaker 3: We've all had a friend that got engaged or got
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Speaker 3: married or had a baby and they wanted to keep
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Speaker 3: the secret of the baby's name, you know, protected, and
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Speaker 3: then there's some dingoing who lets the cat out of
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Speaker 3: the bag and you're so mad at them for spoiling
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Speaker 3: the secret. Well, that's what happened this week. If you
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Speaker 3: have not watched the episode, long story short, Kristin gets
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Speaker 3: engaged to Luke. Luke decides to only include Nia and
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Speaker 3: Danny in on the secret because you know, when it
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Speaker 3: comes to secrets, there are only few people in your
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Speaker 3: orbit that you know are a vault, so he has
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Speaker 3: them participate. When Brittany finds this out, she's enraged because
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Speaker 3: she says she's best friends with Kristen. Why wouldn't you
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Speaker 3: include her? But as Luke pointed out on the after show,
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Speaker 3: if you tell Britney something, it's going to get back
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Speaker 3: to Jack's Now. She says in the after show while
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Speaker 3: she's being interviewed with Laala, there's no way I would
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Speaker 3: ever tell Jacks. Well, we had archival footage that proved
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Speaker 3: that she tells Jack's everything, namely things that are personal
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Speaker 3: about her friends, which include getting engaged, and that's a
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Speaker 3: big problem.
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Speaker 2: So he then sends.
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Speaker 3: It to the text chain that he has with thirty
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Speaker 3: of his dude friends, and of course, you know they're
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Speaker 3: going to tell their friend, their wives, their girlfriends. Then
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Speaker 3: they're going to DM people. It's going to get out.
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Speaker 3: And I think it wasn't just that Kristen had not
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Speaker 3: told her family. I think that she probably had some
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Speaker 3: sort of magazine deal set up that Luke set up
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Speaker 3: with their publicist or something spoiling. It may have not
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Speaker 3: only been putting them in an emotional predicament, but also
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Speaker 3: a financial predicament. So I think there's some stuff behind
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Speaker 3: the scenes that were probably going on as well.
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Speaker 2: But because she.
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Speaker 3: Did that and she comes across as such a dangling,
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Speaker 3: it makes me start to think about the timeline of
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Speaker 3: her relationship.
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Speaker 2: How she knew he was an awful person and still
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Speaker 2: married him. That is weird.
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Speaker 3: Then it makes me think about how she seems to
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Speaker 3: get a pass from this group even though she was
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Speaker 3: clearly a fan of the show and knew who he
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Speaker 3: was when they started dating in Las Vegas, like years
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Speaker 3: and years ago.
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Speaker 2: There's this thing on.
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Speaker 3: The show where Kristin despises Janet because she says, well,
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Speaker 3: Janet was a fan, but I mean a couple of
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Speaker 3: them were clearly fans, So that's kind of weird. Well,
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen with Jackson Brittany, but again,
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Speaker 3: she's starting to get on my last nerve and I'm
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Speaker 3: wondering if everyone else is feeling the same way. So
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Speaker 3: tension boils over between Janet and Kristen because they were
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Speaker 3: already fighting, and of course Kristen's getting engaged. Everyone's already
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Speaker 3: kind of like, throw kristin a bone. Be kind, be loving,
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Speaker 3: be excited. Janet could not be more disinterested in Kristin
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Speaker 3: and Luke getting engaged and isolated in one of the
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Speaker 3: rooms of the hotel, which obviously have been paid for
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Speaker 3: by the network. And she's just like a bump on
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Speaker 3: a log and also coming on the heels of a
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Speaker 3: couple episodes where she's just going after Danny. So there's
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Speaker 3: this major bombshell. Janet drops the serious allegation that she
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Speaker 3: accuses Danny, who's married to Nia, of sexual assault. She
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Speaker 3: claimed that he assaulted both Jasmine and Michelle, who is
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Speaker 3: our partner, at a Hollywood party and said in no
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Speaker 3: uncertain terms that he had crossed a line. Now, Danny
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Speaker 3: has denied the allegations, calling them slanderous, and Kristen even
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Speaker 3: criticized Janet's wording in a confessional colonist defamatory. Add this
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Speaker 3: to the list of things that are making this show
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Speaker 3: so hard to watch. I am surprised that they evencluded
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Speaker 3: that in this season.
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Speaker 2: At all, because it just why would you even include this.
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Speaker 3: There's no proof of it, and so it's just hearsay,
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Speaker 3: and I just feel bad for Danny and for Nia,
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Speaker 3: and I don't understand what chance motivation is. So she
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Speaker 3: has gone off for a vacation. There were reports that
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Speaker 3: she needed to get away, that she was in isolation.
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Speaker 3: She put out a video saying I just had a
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Speaker 3: family vacation. She has gone private on social media, which
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Speaker 3: is a good idea. I would have recommended the same
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Speaker 3: thing to her if I worked on the show. But
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Speaker 3: this show's dark.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: This has triggered a lot of reactions online. Some fans
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Speaker 3: are praising Janet, saying, Okay, she's you know, understands the assignment.
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Speaker 2: She shows up.
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Speaker 3: Others are siding with Danny and Nia, and of course
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Speaker 3: they've denied all of the accusations. I just feel bad
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Speaker 3: for the people that have to promote this show because
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Speaker 3: I have to think they're all looking at each other
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Speaker 3: like this is such a disaster and it keeps getting worse.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much longer I can watch the show,
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Speaker 3: But I'm wondering what you guys think too. Now and
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Speaker 3: watch what Happens live. Jesse was asked about out the
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Speaker 3: things that he has said about Michelle, his ex wife,
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Speaker 2: She was on Saturday Night Live years and years ago.
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Speaker 3: She gave him this side eye, and Andy made a
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Speaker 3: joke that it landed so badly with the Abby he
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Speaker 3: can't even see the forest or the trees either. So again,
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Speaker 3: everybody on the show, there's an issue with I want
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Speaker 3: to know what you guys think. Are you into the
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 2: Then we have the Golden Bachelor.
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Speaker 3: So the golden Bachelor is supposed to be someone who's
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Speaker 3: open to the idea of finding love again. Typically there's
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Speaker 3: someone who have been widowed or divorced and they have
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Speaker 3: kids from a previous marriage. They're usually adults, they don't
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Speaker 3: have kids at home that they have to still raise,
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Speaker 3: and so it provides them the freedom to kind of
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Speaker 3: begin this new chapter. Well, we know what a headache
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Speaker 3: the first gold in batster was. I could have told
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Speaker 3: you from the very beginning that he was going to
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Speaker 3: choose Teresa because she had the most money. They of
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Speaker 3: course broke up soon after they had the television wedding. Well,
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Speaker 3: now they have mel Owens. The first thing I heard
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Speaker 3: out of the gate was he was sixty six and
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Speaker 3: from Newport Beach, and I thought, they'll there's the problem.
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Speaker 3: I live here sixty six year old men. It is
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Speaker 3: a sea of veneers, very tight shirts. They're all on
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Speaker 3: like human growth hormone. They all believe they should be
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Speaker 3: with a twenty eight to thirty two year old woman.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine a man here who played college football
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Speaker 3: and then in the NFL as an attorney wanting to
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Speaker 3: be with someone in the age range that the production
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Speaker 3: would have chosen. So on June fourth, during a podcast
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Speaker 3: that he did for University of Michigan Football because he
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Speaker 3: was an alum, he openly stated that he asked ABC
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Speaker 3: to only include women ages forty five to sixty, adding bluntly,
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Speaker 3: if you're sixty or over, I'm cutting them. And he
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Speaker 3: also criticized potential contestants for having artificial hips and wigs,
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Speaker 3: which of course promote prompted accusations of being shallow, agist,
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Speaker 3: and misogynistic. Well yeah, obviously, so fans erupted over social media,
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Speaker 3: as one would expect, because this is the one that
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Speaker 3: going to get a little bit of fame again because
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Speaker 3: he believes he should.
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Speaker 2: Be with like a thirty year old.
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Speaker 3: So Jerry, who was the disaster from the first season,
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Speaker 3: publicly condemned his stance, saying it was a huge mistake,
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Speaker 3: reminding him that being open minded is essential on a
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Speaker 3: show that's designated to celebrate mature love. Okay, A publicist
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Speaker 3: wrote that, I promise you. So then rumors quickly were
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Speaker 3: spreading like reality Steve Who's buddy of mine. He reported
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Speaker 3: that he'd been fired over the comments, but sources connected
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Speaker 3: to ABC confirmed that they're standing by him, despite internal
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Speaker 3: of Golden Bachelor, Like they're upshits crick, Who's.
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Speaker 2: Gonna watch this? So I don't know what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: But again, you can't choose a guy from southern California,
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Speaker 3: somebody who is not from a part of the country
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Speaker 3: with a woman who's like twenty eight years old. It
12:32
Speaker 3: is absurd. I'm telling you Bobby his ex wife was
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Speaker 3: twenty years younger than him. Do they do zero research
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Speaker 3: into some of these candidates? It's crazy, So I'm interested
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Speaker 2: Now Denise Richard's divorce. This was a shocker.
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Speaker 3: This came out Monday that Aaron, who is her husband,
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Speaker 3: filed for divorce in Los Angeles Superior Court citing irreconcilable differences.
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Speaker 3: Now he listed their separation eight is July fourth, So
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Speaker 3: you're running through the numbers just like I was. July fourth.
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Speaker 3: They got in some huge fight. What happened, and then
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Speaker 3: Monday morning he's already filed. So the spouse support spousal
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Speaker 3: support requests are bonkers. He's asking the court to mandate
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Speaker 3: spousal support and also reported that their combined monthly expenses
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Speaker 3: total around one hundred and five thousand dollars. I know,
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Speaker 3: you just threw your phone out the window. First of all,
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Speaker 3: apparently she makes two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
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Speaker 3: month because of only fans, and he is saying again
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Speaker 3: the expenses are one hundred and five thousand dollars. Also,
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Speaker 3: he says that he has not made any income the
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Speaker 3: last two years because he is now part they've got
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Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty split of their joint venture, Smoke
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Speaker 3: and Mirrors Entertainment. Now, remember she said he would be
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Speaker 3: he would have been enraged to find out that she
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Speaker 3: alluding to, you know, on the Real Housewods of Beverly Hills,
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Speaker 3: that she may have hooked up at some point with
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Speaker 3: Brandy Glanville, saying, you know, we're in a monogamous relationship,
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Speaker 3: and you know it's very important that we you know,
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Speaker 3: he were in a very serious relationship and he doesn't
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Speaker 3: like any of that stuff, and then to all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden become her business partner and then she's on OnlyFans.
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Speaker 3: It just seems like that's in conflict. Like she almost
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Speaker 3: made it seem like he was either controlling of the relationship,
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Speaker 3: like you can't be with anybody else but me? Would
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Speaker 3: that same person be okay with her? Like flawning her
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Speaker 3: body on a subscription site? Like it all seemed very weird.
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Speaker 3: Also important to note he does seem bonkers. He seemed
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Speaker 3: like somebody who is a conspiracy theory theorist about just
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Speaker 3: about everything in life. Like there was one dinner scene
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Speaker 3: on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where he was saying,
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Speaker 3: everything that you believe and you can correct me if
16:48
Speaker 3: I'm wrong on the phrasing here, So like everything you've
16:50
Speaker 3: ever believed about health is completely wrong, like you should
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Speaker 3: believe nothing that you've ever read anywhere by any person,
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Speaker 3: which includes any doctor, like he's you know, one of
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Speaker 3: those people that really believes they know more than anything
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Speaker 3: that anyone has ever studied, like crazy pants. So he
17:09
Speaker 3: is no longer a health coach. Shocker, because Denise is
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Speaker 3: making all the money from OnlyFans. So they become business partners,
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Speaker 3: as mentioned, and so that's what we're talking about. But
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Speaker 3: what's also crazy is they talk about the list of expenses. Oh,
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Speaker 3: by the way, for context, they got married in twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 3: so it was a seven year marriage. At the time
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Speaker 3: of filing. He had that healing business and face significant debts.
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Speaker 3: Court filings have detailed over one hundred and ninety thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars in defaulted business loans, with debts bellonging to two
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars. Creditors have even attempted
17:43
Speaker 3: to claim her income to repay his debts. According to
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Speaker 3: the Sun, and the couple started or they started filming
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Speaker 3: Bravos Denise Richards and Her Wild Things, I think just
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Speaker 3: maybe six months before it premiered of twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: So that show showcased their family life and the ups
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Speaker 3: and downs of marriage. So he's got a lot of debts.
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Speaker 3: He's probably pushing her do only fans because they needed
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Speaker 3: the money. I'm assuming we can only assume and then
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Speaker 3: to do this TV show. Maybe that added extra strain too,
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Speaker 3: But the financial entanglements could be some of the reason
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Speaker 3: for this. With shared business assets and substantial joint expenses,
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Speaker 3: that divorce could involve a complex legal and financial settlement,
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Speaker 3: as one can explain or expect. So is TV figures
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Speaker 3: that split is short unfold under the spotlight. And I
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Speaker 3: got to tell you, if he thinks the media is
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Speaker 3: not going to cover this is crazy.
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Speaker 2: But let's get back to the costs.
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Speaker 3: He's claiming they spent twenty five thousand dollars a month
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Speaker 3: on food. By the way, he never adopted Eloise, her daughter,
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Speaker 3: but apparently he had plans to, so the the filing.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much he can include. No, you know,
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Speaker 3: I stand corrected. He does say that seven thousand dollars
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Speaker 3: was spent on Eloise's care per month. There was like
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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars on dry cleaning, eighteen thousand dollars on
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Speaker 3: their rent. There was no mention of a mortgage and
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Speaker 3: on the show because I watched a couple episodes of
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Speaker 3: the Denise Richards Show with her kids, Denise Richards and
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Speaker 3: her Wild Things, it looked like his family was staying
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Speaker 3: in the home that she lived in Malibu, and then
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Speaker 3: they had adjoining apartments. But that rent is eighteen thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars twenty five thousand dollars on food.
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Speaker 2: How do we explain that one?
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Speaker 3: So what's next is the We can expect the court
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Speaker 3: filings outlining the custody, support, debt division, and the business ownership. Also,
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Speaker 3: we have to keep an eye out for official public
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Speaker 3: comments or updates from the reps, which have yet to come.
19:56
Speaker 3: But I don't think the custody is going to be
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Speaker 3: issue because he never formally adopted her Eloise. Then we've
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Speaker 3: got a Love Island scandal. On Love Island, there's been
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Speaker 3: a way of controversy surrounding season seven contestants being removed
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Speaker 3: after resurfaced racist content on social media. So it's a
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Speaker 3: cast member by the name of you, Lissa, and she
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Speaker 3: was removed after leaked clips from a twenty twenty four
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Speaker 3: podcast where she used an explicative and it is very upsetting.
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Speaker 3: Producers quietly sent her home early into the season, but
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Speaker 3: they only gave a vague reason that she left for
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Speaker 3: personal reasons. She later apologized, acknowledging that she used a
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Speaker 3: hateful word I had no writing using, and said that
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Speaker 3: she was reflecting, learning and growing. But then Sierra twenty
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Speaker 3: six days later, she exits. She is an influencer and
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Speaker 3: a content creator. Ejected just before the finale after pasted
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Speaker 3: Instagram posts from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three emerged
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Speaker 3: containing anti Asian slurs. Her remove followed petitions. They had
21:02
Speaker 3: seventeen thousand plus signatures, with intense backlash and a significant
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Speaker 3: drop in her follower a count. Her family has called
21:10
Speaker 3: for compassion and stated that she was isolated in the
21:13
Speaker 3: villa and had not fully processed the incident because they
21:16
Speaker 3: take away everything, their phones, everything. So again, that was
21:19
Speaker 3: the second time the season tied to contestants that were
21:23
Speaker 3: made to exit because of racist past social media. So
21:29
Speaker 3: it obviously is sparking public scrutiny of Peacock and ITV's
21:32
Speaker 3: vetting processes and consistency, and the viewers are questioning the
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Speaker 3: production's double standards because Ulyssa exit, her exit felt abrupt
21:42
Speaker 3: and unexplained, while Sierra had more public pressure and action.
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to say that there probably were working
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Speaker 3: on the fly, and it is a good question of
21:53
Speaker 3: the vetting how that didn't come up, But.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to say.
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Speaker 3: I would love to interview somebody who works in casting
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Speaker 3: about the level in which they are able to do
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Speaker 3: the vetting process for some of these shows. And that
22:09
Speaker 3: finale is soon approaching. It's like July thirteenth, I think
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Speaker 3: that's the finale, So it'll be interesting to see if
22:18
Speaker 3: they interview executive producers after to find out all of
22:21
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Speaker 3: Now, the other thing I wanted to tell you about
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Speaker 3: what you should watch because every week I put out
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Speaker 3: this list of what to watch, and I cannot recommend
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Speaker 3: this enough. It is a documentary called My Mom Jane.
24:15
Speaker 3: It's on HBO and if you love all things pop culture,
24:20
Speaker 3: you will appreciate this because Mariska Hargateay, who is the
24:26
Speaker 3: director of this documentary but kind of woven into the subject.
24:30
Speaker 3: She is a star of Law and Order and her
24:33
Speaker 3: mother was Jane Mansfield, who is this blonde, blonde bombshell.
24:37
Speaker 3: So if you're familiar with like a lot of Hollywood, lord,
24:41
Speaker 3: you may be familiar with the story. But I'm telling
24:44
Speaker 3: you got to watch this doc And for so many
24:46
Speaker 3: of you that are listening, you're looking for something that's
24:50
Speaker 3: really hearty. It's got great personal storytelling, and this doc
24:55
Speaker 3: is the one to watch. So it revisits the life
24:58
Speaker 3: of one of Hollywood's most misunderstood icons, Gene Mansfield has mentioned,
25:02
Speaker 3: but it's through the eyes of her daughter, Marishka. So
25:05
Speaker 3: of course she's best known for her role on Law
25:08
Speaker 3: and Order, but in this case, she's taking us on
25:10
Speaker 3: this emotional journey to understand her mother behind the myth,
25:14
Speaker 3: not just this blonde bombshell or a tabloid fixture, but
25:19
Speaker 3: her mom as an artist and this complicated human being.
25:22
Speaker 3: She was one of the most fascinating figures of the
25:25
Speaker 3: mid twentieth century pop culture, often remembered for that blonde hair,
25:30
Speaker 3: her persona, and of course her tragic death, and the
25:34
Speaker 3: full story of her life reveals a woman who was
25:36
Speaker 3: far more complex, intelligent, and driven than the headlines had
25:40
Speaker 3: ever allowed. She was born in nineteen thirty three in Brynmar, Pennsylvania,
25:45
Speaker 3: but raised primarily in Texas after the early early death
25:48
Speaker 3: of her father when she was just three years old.
25:51
Speaker 3: He died of a heart attack while he was driving,
25:52
Speaker 3: and sadly, she was in the car at the time,
25:55
Speaker 3: which we will come back to in a second. From
25:58
Speaker 3: a young age, she was ambitious, she said, acting, singing,
26:01
Speaker 3: She knew multiple languages, She had a very high IQ
26:04
Speaker 3: and dreamed of Hollywood stardom. But it wasn't just talent
26:07
Speaker 3: or ambition that got her there. She was a master
26:10
Speaker 3: of media before that was even a concept. So if
26:13
Speaker 3: you were to compared to someone now, maybe like a
26:15
Speaker 3: Paris Hilton. She understood long before the age of influencers,
26:19
Speaker 3: that success in Hollywood wasn't just about performance, it was
26:22
Speaker 3: about perception. So she was an early architect of personal branding,
26:26
Speaker 3: crafting a public persona that positioned herself not just as
26:30
Speaker 3: an actress, but as a spectacle. And she did it knowingly,
26:33
Speaker 3: but with a wink and not a stumble. While she
26:36
Speaker 3: leaned into the Hollywood caricature, she was, at her core
26:39
Speaker 3: a multifaceted artist. She could play multiple instruments, including the
26:44
Speaker 3: violin and the piano. Again, she spoke several languages fluently
26:47
Speaker 3: and took acting very seriously. She studied at UCLA and
26:51
Speaker 3: with private coaches, but she didn't want just fame. She
26:54
Speaker 3: wanted a career, and she also knew how to work
26:56
Speaker 3: the system, so she would orchestrate these publicity stuff. She'd
27:00
Speaker 3: invite the proparazzi to capture these outrageous moments, and seemed
27:04
Speaker 3: to always be one step ahead of the press. She
27:07
Speaker 3: knew that to stay relevant, you had to stay talked about,
27:10
Speaker 3: and she was brilliant at staying on the front page,
27:12
Speaker 3: whether it was a wardrobe malfunction or a controversial photo
27:16
Speaker 3: op or eyebrow raising quotes. She wasn't just playing the
27:20
Speaker 3: Hollywood game. She was rewriting the rule book, long before
27:23
Speaker 3: the rest of the industry really caught on. She broke
27:26
Speaker 3: into business in nineteen fifty and was crowned Playboy Playmate
27:30
Speaker 3: of the Month in nineteen fifty five and signed by
27:33
Speaker 3: twentieth Century Fox as the studio looked for someone to
27:37
Speaker 3: rival Marilyn Monroe. Her breakout role came in the Broadway
27:40
Speaker 3: in film versions of Will's success Spoil Rock Hunter, where
27:44
Speaker 3: she played a self aware parody of a Hollywood starlet.
27:47
Speaker 3: Her life often teetered between the aspirational and the outrageous,
27:51
Speaker 3: between stardom and scandal. As the sixties wore on and
27:54
Speaker 3: Hollywood began to shift away from the studio system and
27:58
Speaker 3: from the overtly glamorous start line archetype that had really
28:02
Speaker 3: had been something that she embodied, she found herself increasingly sideline.
28:07
Speaker 3: Roles became fewer, and the ones that she was offered
28:10
Speaker 3: often felt like echoes of the persona she had already outgrown.
28:13
Speaker 3: The industry that once courted her began to turn its
28:16
Speaker 3: gaze elsewhere, and while she was still in her early thirties,
28:20
Speaker 3: she was already being deemed too old for the image
28:23
Speaker 3: that she had so carefully crafted. So she pivoted the
28:27
Speaker 3: way that women in Hollywood so often have to do,
28:30
Speaker 3: by taking her fame on the road. She performed in
28:32
Speaker 3: nightclubs across the country, including Las Vegas, lounges and small
28:36
Speaker 3: town venues. These were no longer high budget film sets,
28:40
Speaker 3: but she brought the same star power to a nightclub
28:42
Speaker 3: stage as she did to a movie camera. She'd have
28:44
Speaker 3: the sequence and the jokes, and always in control of
28:47
Speaker 3: the room. She also appeared in a string of European
28:51
Speaker 3: B movies, often with lurid titles and minimal scripts, that
28:54
Speaker 3: capitalized on her notoriety more than her talent. But she
28:57
Speaker 3: leaned in, working constantly hustling to provide for her children,
29:02
Speaker 3: refusing to disappear quietly. Now she had five children, and
29:07
Speaker 3: she worked hard, and if you think about that time,
29:11
Speaker 3: she would bring her kids everywhere.
29:14
Speaker 2: If she went to.
29:16
Speaker 3: A talk show, she would bring her kids with her,
29:19
Speaker 3: and that was so unheard of at the time, where
29:24
Speaker 3: you know, it was sort of like kids should be
29:27
Speaker 3: not kids should not be seen. We don't want to
29:29
Speaker 3: know anything about your kids. Just keep working, especially if
29:32
Speaker 3: you're this bombshell and you give this like sexy persona.
29:36
Speaker 3: So there is an undercurrent of tragedy in this period,
29:39
Speaker 3: not just in her declining fame, but in the way
29:41
Speaker 3: that the industry discarded her. She played the game it
29:45
Speaker 3: demanded of her, and when it a longer served her,
29:47
Speaker 3: it had moved on. So as the spotlight dimmed, she
29:50
Speaker 3: remained a consummate performer. She stayed visible, She stayed working,
29:54
Speaker 3: She stayed provocative. Reinvention wasn't optional, it was survival. But
29:58
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, beyond the care Emma flashes in the
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Speaker 3: cleavage bearing gowns, she was that devoted mother. Her journey
30:05
Speaker 3: into motherhood began early. At sixteen years old, she married
30:08
Speaker 3: her high school sweetheart, Paul Mansfield, and gave birth to
30:11
Speaker 3: her first child, a daughter named Jane Marie, when she
30:13
Speaker 3: was only seventeen years old. That early experience shaped her deeply.
30:17
Speaker 3: Even as her Hollywood dreams took off. Motherhood was never
30:20
Speaker 3: something she treated as secondary. Like I said, she would
30:22
Speaker 3: take her kids everywhere. Her life unfolded in chapters, each
30:25
Speaker 3: one marked by intents of love affairs, public marriages, and children,
30:30
Speaker 3: and after her divorce for Paul Mansfield. She married Hungarian
30:33
Speaker 3: American bodybuilder and actor Mickey Hargateag in nineteen fifty eight,
30:37
Speaker 3: a union that became one of the most Hollywood photograph
30:41
Speaker 3: marriages of the era, and they had three kids, Mickey,
30:45
Speaker 3: Sultan and Marishka, the youngest, who would go on like
30:48
Speaker 3: I said, to become a celebrated actress in her own right.
30:51
Speaker 3: But her life was cut tragically short on June twenty ninth,
30:55
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty seven, in a car accident that shocked the
30:57
Speaker 3: nation and became one of the most haunting stories in
31:00
Speaker 3: Hollywood history. She was only thirty four years old, traveling
31:03
Speaker 3: from a nightclub appearance in Biloxi, Mississippi, to New Orleans,
31:07
Speaker 3: where she was scheduled for a TV interview the next morning.
31:10
Speaker 3: In her car were her then boyfriend Sam Brody, her driver,
31:14
Speaker 3: and three of her kids, Mickey, Sultan and Marishka, who were.
31:18
Speaker 2: Sleeping in the back seat.
31:20
Speaker 3: So at two twenty five am, in a dark stretch
31:22
Speaker 3: of Route ninety, just outside of New Orleans, her sixty
31:26
Speaker 3: six Buick Electra crashed into the rear of a slow
31:28
Speaker 3: moving tractor trailer that suddenly breaked behind a cloud of
31:31
Speaker 3: insecticide fog being sprayed along the road, so the car
31:35
Speaker 3: slid under the truck, instantly killing the three adults in
31:38
Speaker 3: the front. Now, the three kids in the back survived
31:42
Speaker 3: with minor injuries. So her father passed away of a
31:47
Speaker 3: heart attack while driving while she was in the car,
31:49
Speaker 3: and then she would die at the age of fifty
31:52
Speaker 3: four or thirty four with her three kids in the back.
31:55
Speaker 3: So in the aftermath, the crash became the stuff of
31:57
Speaker 3: urban legend, and the tragedy was so high profile and
32:01
Speaker 3: gruesome that it led to a significant change in vehicle safety,
32:04
Speaker 3: the introduction of the underwride bar, now commonly referred to
32:07
Speaker 3: as the Mansfield bar, which prevents cars from sliding underneath
32:11
Speaker 3: large trucks. So I want you to watch My Mom Jane,
32:14
Speaker 3: because it's a moving, intimate, and deeply personal exploration not
32:18
Speaker 3: just of her life through the lens of tabloids or
32:20
Speaker 3: pop culture and nostalgia, but through eyes of her daughter Murushka.
32:25
Speaker 3: And for decades her public image had been flattened into
32:28
Speaker 3: that caricature, the blonde bombshell, the Monroe look alike, the
32:32
Speaker 3: Starlin new died tragically young. But in this documentary, it
32:35
Speaker 3: goes deeper and she reclaims her mom as a full,
32:39
Speaker 3: complex human being, an artist, a mother, a woman who
32:42
Speaker 3: lived large but loved even larger. So again it's called
32:47
Speaker 3: my Mom, Jane. So if you want more of my
32:50
Speaker 3: lists of what to watch each week, ship what I
32:51
Speaker 3: put out every week, go to Katekasey dot substack dot com.
32:55
Speaker 3: I give you a list of tons of reality shows
32:57
Speaker 3: and documentaries to watch. And then, if you love Real Housewives,
33:02
Speaker 3: by the way, I've got an interview on Thursday with
33:05
Speaker 3: the executive producer of Real Housewives of Miami and it's
33:07
Speaker 3: all about how the sausage is made, so you will
33:10
Speaker 3: like that too. I'm sending all my love to the
33:13
Speaker 3: Pink Shade listeners and of course to Mary Payne, and
33:17
Speaker 3: I hope that this finds you having a great summer,
33:21
Speaker 3: a great day, and I'm saluting all of you.