Latest / The Christian Homemaking Podcast: Simply Convivial with Mystie Winckler / Busy Without Rushing: Slow Living for Christian Women
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- 0:00Speaker: All right.
- 0:00I'm just trying something new here.
- 0:04I have podcast episodes to record, and I thought, why not just do it as
- 0:13a YouTube Live instead of recording?
- 0:16Now, when I record podcast episodes, I do usually edit.
- 0:21My daughter edits my podcast for me, and she tells me that I have very awkward,
- 0:26weird pauses, and that is something I'm getting better at and overcoming.
- 0:33But one way that I over- need to overcome it is by just doing it and putting
- 0:37things out there and not editing.
- 0:40So thank you so much for joining me today.
- 0:42Today, we're gonna talk about slow living, um, and what we really want when we're
- 0:50attracted to the slow living message.
- 0:55It's a thing out there, right?
- 0:58There are YouTube videos, there are books, there are blog posts, there are
- 1:05probably whole Instagram accounts, I don't even know, on slow living, and
- 1:10they're appealing and they're attractive.
- 1:13Maybe because it feels impossible for us.
- 1:17Um, but we don'tâ¦
- 1:20We need to know what's underneath that root of feeling attracted
- 1:26to the slow living message.
- 1:29Why does that feel so appealing and attractive to us?
- 1:35Are we too busy?
- 1:37Are we doing too many things?
- 1:39Or are we actually just frazzled by not very many things?
- 1:46Like, it can actually be both at the same time.
- 1:50We can be frazzled and frayed and feel like our capacity is just at the limit.
- 1:58We can't do anything more.
- 2:00We're too busy, while we're actually hardly doing anything at all.
- 2:06And that's especially easy today because our perspective and our sense
- 2:12of reality is so easily distorted.
- 2:17Um, this came home to me a, a couple, I guess it was a couple months ago now.
- 2:23I was talking to my daughter, uh, my 18-year-old daughter, who edits
- 2:28my podcasts for me, and I was kind of giving her carte blanche.
- 2:33I'm like, "If you want to try out editing techniques or whatever on
- 2:37my YouTube videos, like, I'm game.
- 2:40Like, if you can make me look better or seem better, like, try it.
- 2:45You can, you can do that."
- 2:47And so she started looking and watching, uh, YouTube videos on homemaking to
- 2:53kinda see what other people were doing, and she, uh, was just cracking up.
- 2:59We got together for coffee, and she was showing me some of the videos
- 3:04that she watched and just laughing, imagining me trying to do them.
- 3:09It was a little bit humbling, but that's what teenage daughters are for.
- 3:14So, uh, you know, I'm sure you've probably seen these videos, pr- probably
- 3:20reels on Instagram, YouTube videos, where there's soft music playing in the
- 3:26background and you're watching someone sweep You're watching the lady hand-knead
- 3:35her bread, and it takes so long.
- 3:39But she's doing it calmly, and she's maybe talking in a very soothing
- 3:44manner, and there's soothing music.
- 3:47It's all very soothing.
- 3:50Uh, one of the videos that my daughter showed me, um,
- 3:54the lady was making her bed.
- 3:56And so it's like three or four minutes of every layer of making
- 4:01the bed, and everything, of course, is beautiful and soft and beige.
- 4:08And then my daughter's like, "Wait for it.
- 4:10Wait for it."
- 4:10She puts the throw thing on, and her cat jumps up, and my daughter's like,
- 4:15"Look, her cat matches her bed."
- 4:20Like, her cat is part of her aesthetic choice.
- 4:24And we were laughing because that is just not our house and not our home.
- 4:31Uh, thatâ¦
- 4:32Well, I mean, there wouldn't be a cat jumping on the bed, for sure.
- 4:35But, um, yeah, achieving an aesthetic is not, um, something I'm capable
- 4:47of doing, even if I wanted to do.
- 4:49Um, and so my daughter was basically telling me, like,
- 4:54um, I, I can't be a YouTuber.
- 4:57This is what YouTubers ⦠I'm like, "Well, I'm just gonna put
- 4:59up words anywhere, and people can take it or leave it."
- 5:04Um, but one thingâ¦
- 5:10She, she made this comment as we were watching these videos of ladies just
- 5:15very slowly and deliberately doing, you know, very mundane things very
- 5:21slowly Um, in a very aesthetically.
- 5:27She said, "This is how I imagine setting up my home.
- 5:32This is, like, what I want.
- 5:35I know that it's not gonna happen.
- 5:37I know that that's not what life is gonna be like or what my home is
- 5:41going to be like, but this is what I imagine it could be like, and,
- 5:46and I would like it to be that way.
- 5:49And so since I can't have it, it's kind of fun to watch the YouTube
- 5:55video of someone else doing it."
- 5:58And I thought that was just so insightful.
- 6:01And that is why it's appealing.
- 6:03And the real trick, I mean, the real problem, what's actually happening
- 6:10when we're watching those videos, wherever they pop up in our feeds,
- 6:15when we watch those videos of the just absolutely beautiful home, nothing
- 6:22out of place, everything matches
- 6:25you know, if the children end up interrupting, it's cute and they're
- 6:29wearing linen It's not only setting us up for false expectations of
- 6:35what our goals ought to be, it is also Taking our time, right?
- 6:43I mean, obviously, we'reâ¦
- 6:44But when we watch someone else do work, and we are just sitting watching
- 6:51them, we actually get a little-- we feel like we've done something.
- 6:56We get a little bit of payoff.
- 6:59We're imagining ourselves living their life while we're watching
- 7:02them, when we're actually doing nothing at all in our real life.
- 7:07And then, you know, we put the phone down, shut the laptop, look
- 7:11around, and now our home feels and looks worse than it really is.
- 7:18Because we're comparing not only to the aesthetic, but also to the feel.
- 7:25That feeling that we got while we watched her do her work is not at all like
- 7:32actually sweeping or washing the dishes.
- 7:35And so then we're less satisfied with our own lives and our own work.
- 7:41And so th-that kind of slow-living message that's very attractive, um, very appealing
- 7:50to us, ends up taking us out of the game.
- 7:54It's the wrong kind of slow
- 7:57So we're slow or those videos are slow to be soothing because
- 8:02we feel like we need soothing.
- 8:04We need comfort.
- 8:06We are looking to feel more calm.
- 8:11And so we're getting it from these slow living messages.
- 8:16And, you know, the answer usually for, for those kinds of messages
- 8:23are like, do less, just cut back.
- 8:27Um
- 8:29Don't leave your house, or, you know, well, you should
- 8:32just hand-knead your dough.
- 8:34And if youâ¦
- 8:34Like, sometimes that's totally fine, but that's not the kind of
- 8:41message that we see in scripture.
- 8:43We see abound in good works.
- 8:46We see be zealous for good works.
- 8:49These are, like, energy-type words, not calm words
- 8:57But that calmness is hitting us in a particular way because our souls
- 9:07and our minds and our attention is so scattered and so, um, frayed
- 9:15and we feel like we're frenzy.
- 9:17And so it sounds like the right answer
- 9:20And so then busy becomes the enemy or, and busy is equated with, you know,
- 9:27hurry becomes an associated bad word.
- 9:31Um, and there is a sense where you don't want to be so rushed that you
- 9:40are not only stressed yourself, but stressing out everyone around you.
- 9:45But the way to achieve that kind of not hurried approach to life doesn't mean
- 9:50that you can't, you can do the bare minimum, cut back to the bare minimum.
- 9:56Um You can be busy and do a lot of things without being stressed.
- 10:06And cutting back all your responsibilities is not the answer to removing stress.
- 10:16That's the easy answer.
- 10:17It sounds like it's workable, but that message is taking us out of the game.
- 10:23That temptation is taking us out of the game.
- 10:28It's the wrong kind of slow.
- 10:30We're imitating a fake version.
- 10:33S- so, you know, it's just a video.
- 10:36It's, uh, put together with the calming music.
- 10:40Maybe you should try playing calming music.
- 10:43You could try that m- that much, even if the h- everything
- 10:46in the house isn't beige.
- 10:50Um, and You're also getting that payoff for doing work by watching other people
- 10:59work and not going and doing things.
- 11:02But getting up even for 10 minutes and making progress on your dishes
- 11:06or just putting things away for 10 minutes builds energy and momentum,
- 11:14and then we feel more capable, and we start to get that energy flowing.
- 11:20And then we don't need, uh, the coping mechanism of, um, just watching
- 11:34videos of other people working because we're guilty that we aren't working,
- 11:38and that's al- often what it is.
- 11:40And so we can do a lot of things.
- 11:44We can get our work done at home.
- 11:47We can make meals for people and take them.
- 11:51We can have our kids in activities and drive them around town.
- 11:56We can homeschool multiple grades at the same time.
- 12:00We can have a lot on our plate and be actually busy.
- 12:05We can abound in good works and be zealous for those good works.
- 12:09We can get after it
- 12:11Without being stressed out.
- 12:15And often when we're stressed out, we're probably not as busy as we think we are.
- 12:21So how do we do that?
- 12:23We need to do what we're doing.
- 12:27We need to know what our responsibilities are.
- 12:30We need to be prayerfully seeking what we should be doing and how we
- 12:36should be spending our time, and being aware of how we're spending our time.
- 12:40And not only how we're spending our time in our work, but also how we're
- 12:44spending our time in our thoughts, right?
- 12:46What are we paying attention to, and who are we paying attention to?
- 12:51That will make a difference in your interpretation of your real life.
- 12:57That's what's going on in your life, and how you are judging your
- 13:04opportunities and your, uh, approach.
- 13:10Uh, your expectations will be set by who you are listening to.
- 13:16And if you are parenting, teaching, doing housework, running errands, planning
- 13:25all the things, making the food, and you're doing those things while your
- 13:31brain is fretting Where you're worried, you're comparing, you're anxious, you
- 13:40are holding a million things in your head while also listening to someone else
- 13:44talk kind of and doing this other thing, that's where we get to that frayed mental
- 13:51state where we check out and need toâ¦
- 13:56and feel attracted to lies about life and ourselves and what we need, where the, the
- 14:04calming effect, um, feels like the answer.
- 14:11Because in our hearts and our heads, we are all over the place,
- 14:16not aware, not integrated, not attentive to what really matters.
- 14:25So, uh, when we have our minds in a million places and someone's talking
- 14:33to us, then suddenly, like we've all, all felt that way, of like that's
- 14:39the straw that breaks the camel's back, and now we just fall to pieces.
- 14:44Something happens and we fall to pieces because we were in too many places in our
- 14:49own heads and some of those places were lies Um, we're trying to hold information
- 14:57in our heads instead of having it written down and just doing what's in front of us.
- 15:02We are full of guilt for not doing what we need to be doing, and so
- 15:09we're, and we're trying to ignore the guilt, and it comes and attacks
- 15:16us in, in different and weird ways.
- 15:20So these things wear us down and take us out of the game.
- 15:27We can do a lot of good works in our home.
- 15:32We can be busy.
- 15:33We can get our work done.
- 15:35I mean, it's not gonna ever be done.
- 15:37We can do our work and be satisfied in what we are doing, even if it's never
- 15:42finished, 'cause there's going to be another load of laundry, another meal.
- 15:46These are good things.
- 15:49That's not frustrating.
- 15:51We can learn to love what must be done And we can abound in good works and be
- 15:57zealous for good works without succumbing to stress and hurry and rushing when we
- 16:08are engaged in the work and in where we are, when we are certain of our calling
- 16:16and we're not second-guessing ourself, and we aren't comparing ourself, when we are
- 16:25attentive to what we're doing and where we're, where we are from thing to thing.
- 16:33You know, I, I actually didn't count.
- 16:35I don't know how many things I have on my calendar for today, but it is quite a few.
- 16:40But I'm not thinking about what's next.
- 16:45I'm here where I'm at.
- 16:48Um, when this is over or if a kid comes in and talks to me or whatever, like, the
- 16:54laptop goes down or the phone goes down and I'm paying attention to the person
- 16:58talking to me, and I'm where I'm at.
- 17:01And then the next thing comes, and that's why I have calendar reminders
- 17:04and alarms and things to pull me to the next thing at the right time.
- 17:11Because when we're engaged in what we're doing and when we're paying attention
- 17:21to the person talking to us and not somewhere else in our heads, then it's
- 17:28possible to be calm and attentive and, and that's not a stressful way to live.
- 17:32See?
- 17:32There's a, there's a little beep right there.
- 17:35I've got 10 minutes to the next thing.
- 17:37And we could just-- we can do that.
- 17:41It's only stressful when we are worried about something or guilty about something.
- 17:48And so we need to get to the root of the guilt or the worry and deal
- 17:53with that before God and with our husband's help to figure things out
- 18:00It's underlying guilt and worry that takes us out of the game, makes us
- 18:04think that cutting things is the only solution, and that ends up making those
- 18:11videos of an unrealistic, unattainable life feel soothing and calming.
- 18:18It's a coping mechanism.
- 18:20It's anoth- and it's taking us out of the game 'cause then we're
- 18:23getting that payoff of housework without actually doing our own.
- 18:28Now, I have heard some people turn one of those on, and then they're
- 18:33h- doing their housework with that.
- 18:34Like That's fine if it's like background music.
- 18:40But if you're sitting on the couch watching someone else
- 18:42sweep instead of sweeping Like, maybe you shouldn't do that.
- 18:47That's not helping you because I bet that's not helping you love your
- 18:56broom and floors more, actually.
- 19:00It's you're imagining yourself living that life instead of being
- 19:05engaged in the life that you've been given and the life that you have.
- 19:11So watch out for comparison, for stress, for feeling scattered and drawn in
- 19:20a million directions because you're letting a million different people
- 19:24talk into your life and pull- and tell you you should be like this or like
- 19:28that or cut everything or, you know.
- 19:33Brain dump, write things down, get things out of your head, talk to
- 19:36your husband about them, pray about them, and then make a daily card.
- 19:41Do 15 minutes, do 10 minutes.
- 19:44Get up and do something.
- 19:46Pay attention to your own life, and know that God is with you and
- 19:53equips you to help you do what you are called to do without stress,
- 19:59without worry, without guilt.
- 20:03That's possible, and that's why we need to repent, rejoice, repeat.
- 20:11If we notice guilt, if we notice laziness, we don't excuse it or deny it.
- 20:16We confess it, and we get forgiveness, and we move on and do the next thing.
- 20:21We then can rejoice in obedience and be grateful for the work in front of
- 20:27us because it's given to us by God.
- 20:29That's how we learn to love it.
- 20:31And then that is just the repetition of life.
- 20:35All right.
- 20:36Thank you so much for joining me live.
- 20:38We'll see, I might try this a few more times, just kind of experimenting with
- 20:42what's possible and how it all works.
- 20:44So, um, l- yes, I appreciate this, and we'll ⦠I can't promise
- 20:51I'll do it again, but we'll see.
- 20:53Thank you, everyone.