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The Late Debate | 10 February · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Queen, welcome to the late Base.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Cayler Bond
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Speaker 2: with Free Leach.
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Speaker 3: How are you very well, Kayla?
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Speaker 2: And filling in for James tonight, Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 4: How are you made? I'm very glad to be here.
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Speaker 5: I actually had to cut the brake cables in James's
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Speaker 5: card just.
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Speaker 4: To make that I was here.
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Speaker 2: I think that's why he was broadcasting out of Brisbane tonight,
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Speaker 2: so he's not yet realized that the break cables have
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Speaker 2: been cut. Here's what's coming up on the show, The
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Speaker 2: curious case of the Parliament House condoms. I thought Malcolm
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Speaker 2: Turnle brought in a bonk band eight years ago, but
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Speaker 2: apparently rubbers are being provided in Parliament House changing rooms,
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Speaker 2: just not to men. More on that soon. A fringe
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Speaker 2: Jewish lobby group took out a full page ad in
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Speaker 2: The Herald and the Age opposing Israeli President Isaac Hertzog's
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Speaker 2: visit to Australia, but the signatories included names that were
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Speaker 2: actually Hebrew swear words, people who never signed it and
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Speaker 2: dead people, and the staggering number of quote unquote serious
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Speaker 2: incidents in childcare centers in just one year. That's in
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Speaker 2: the papers. But first, I'm not sure this is good news.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say good news. It is to
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Speaker 2: some degree. The Privacy Commissioner has confirmed today that her
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Speaker 2: office is running two investigations into foreign made cars specific
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Speaker 2: am not saying specifically, sorry, cars that have been built
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Speaker 2: by Asian manufacturers, and whether or not they are spying
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Speaker 2: on you. Now. The bad news, of course, is that
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Speaker 2: these cars may be spying on you. The good news
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Speaker 2: is that the Privacy Commissioner is taking some interest. This
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Speaker 2: came up in Senate estimates today. Carli Khan, who is
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Speaker 2: the Privacy Commissioner, was asked about these matters. She confirmed
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Speaker 2: that there are a number of other investigations that had
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Speaker 2: been dropped because there was no chance of any prosecution.
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Speaker 1: But there are two.
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Speaker 2: Ongoing investigations into whether foreign car manufacturers are deliberately spying
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Speaker 2: on you when you are in your vehicle. Now, of course,
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Speaker 2: all these new cars, particularly electric cars, are hooked up
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Speaker 2: to the Internet to some degree. They have software updates
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Speaker 2: all the time, so they are being sent information remotely
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Speaker 2: by car manufacturers. And the concern, and this is not
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Speaker 2: a new concern, it has been raised before and We
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Speaker 2: saw it with those Yutong buses that come out of
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Speaker 2: China that three countries now have confirmed container kill switch
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Speaker 2: that could be turned on from China. The concern is
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Speaker 2: that a foreign car manufacturer, particularly if they were incahutz
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Speaker 2: with a foreign government, would be able to say slow
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Speaker 2: down your car, or turn your car off, or disable
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Speaker 2: it or blow it up, or a number of other
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Speaker 2: things which in modern warfare would be quite important.
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Speaker 1: They refused to confirm whether or not it was China.
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Speaker 2: All they would say is that it was Asia where
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Speaker 2: these manufacturers were based.
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Speaker 1: So look read into that.
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Speaker 6: Cook The Philippines immediately on being on being appointed.
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Speaker 1: Don't know what happened there that China was.
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Speaker 4: Now system.
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Speaker 2: They're playing grabs before I've even asked for them, and
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Speaker 2: read into it what you will. It's probably China where
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Speaker 2: these manufacturers are based. But the fact that the Privacy
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Speaker 2: Commissioner is taking it seriously enough that she is investigating
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Speaker 2: to see where the illegalities have been performed here and
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Speaker 2: what these manufacturers are actually doing, it should seem to
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Speaker 2: chill down the spine of every Australian with a new car,
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Speaker 2: particularly a Chinese one.
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Speaker 7: One hundred percent these things as the US government has
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Speaker 7: called them are mobile surveillance devices. And the thing is,
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Speaker 7: under Chinese law, Chinese companies are required to participate and
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Speaker 7: assist in Chinese intelligence gathering, and they're also required to
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Speaker 7: share data with the Chinese Communist Party. So it's not
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Speaker 7: just can they override the vehicle and below it up
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Speaker 7: will cause sirious harm, which no doubt I'm sure they're
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Speaker 7: able to do, given they're able to do remote software updates,
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Speaker 7: but also all the data that your car collects, what
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Speaker 7: you're talking about inside where you're driving, If you plug
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Speaker 7: your phone into the car, it can see everything on
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Speaker 7: your phone. Where is all that data being stored back
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Speaker 7: in China and who will then have access to it?
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Speaker 7: The Chinese Communist Party. But we are completely blind to
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Speaker 7: this threat. Let's bring back that grab of Murray what
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Speaker 7: in Senate estimates back in twenty twenty four, where he
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Speaker 7: admitted that Tony Burke, the Home Affairs Minister responsible for
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Speaker 7: major national security decisions, in fact himself has a Chinese car.
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Speaker 6: Immediately being on being appointed to this portfolio, Minister Burke
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Speaker 6: informed his department and security agencies that he had a
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Speaker 6: Chinese made vehicle.
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Speaker 8: What mitigations has the minister taken to protect himself and
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Speaker 8: the comwealth from the security risks driving a Chinese.
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Speaker 6: Made ev Again, I'll take that on notice.
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Speaker 8: Does that include not plugging his phone into the vehicle?
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Speaker 6: Again, that level of detail I'd need to take on notice.
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Speaker 8: Does that include not driving the vehicle twenty sensitive locations?
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Speaker 6: I'll take that on notice.
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Speaker 7: I'll take that on notice. Aka, I have no idea,
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Speaker 7: and I'm just going to bank on the fact that
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Speaker 7: no one will ever follow this up. Joe, this is
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Speaker 7: not good enough.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, although I think that, I mean, all these concerns
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Speaker 5: that are being raised about electric vehicles and everything, I'm
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Speaker 5: sure they are valid to some extent. But I've just
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Speaker 5: got the feeling that if China is really serious about
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Speaker 5: causing us harm, They've got plenty of ways to do it,
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Speaker 5: rather than engaging in some kind of crazy chitty Chitty
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Speaker 5: bang bang Herbie the Lovebug kind of scenario. I mean,
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Speaker 5: what they're going to take over Tony Birk's car and
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Speaker 5: you know, drive it to the Chinese consulate and you
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Speaker 5: know they're going to you know, they go.
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Speaker 2: No but things that are said within that car. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, the car is somewhere that you would normally
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Speaker 2: think you've got some privacy, and if you were in
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Speaker 2: there with an advisor or someone who you worked with
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Speaker 2: and you wanted to have a conversation that others were
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Speaker 2: not privy to, a car when you're on a long
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Speaker 2: drive is a good place to do it. So the
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Speaker 2: consumer would be that that could be monitored or recorded
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Speaker 2: or hacked into, or the car could be manipulated in
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Speaker 2: some way.
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Speaker 4: I think there's two things.
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Speaker 5: One is, obviously they would have to go to all
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Speaker 5: the trouble of finding out which car Tony Burke was
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Speaker 5: driving around in. They would then have to have someone
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Speaker 5: to monitor every single thing that was said in that car.
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Speaker 5: And I can tell you, having listened to a lot
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Speaker 5: of recordings and transcribed a lot of audio, that is
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Speaker 5: a really boring And I think they've got other ways
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Speaker 5: to do it, is what I'm saying, though, Like I
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Speaker 5: don't think I think Chinese. You know, they're crawling through
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Speaker 5: our industrial and in some cases our government electronic infrastructure,
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Speaker 5: and they are doing that. We know they got into
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Speaker 5: Bureau of Meteorology just to have a look around, basically
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Speaker 5: to see if they could.
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Speaker 4: I have no doubt they're doing it.
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Speaker 5: So of all the time, and we've had we'd have
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Speaker 5: our guys desperately trying to fight them off all the time.
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Speaker 5: I just think the car thing, I just don't think
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Speaker 5: is the biggest problem. I mean, if they're going to
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Speaker 5: get into Tony burg or I'd be hacking into his phone.
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Speaker 2: Well, and look, I'm sure they'd like to do that too,
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Speaker 2: just quickly. There is proof of this stuff happening, though
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Speaker 2: not from China. It was a story a few years
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Speaker 2: ago that at Tesla they were looking at the vision
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Speaker 2: coming through the cameras on the outside of the cars
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Speaker 2: and they had vision that they had taken of someone
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Speaker 2: coming out to his car in the nude, and they
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Speaker 2: were sharing it around in group.
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Speaker 1: Chats at Tesla. So yes, Grox, some gotz far. Some
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Speaker 1: of this stuff is being.
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Speaker 7: Monitored, exactly right, And why take the risk when we
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Speaker 7: don't have to. As Joe rightly pointed out, we face
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Speaker 7: a myriad of threats from China, let's minimize this one.
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Speaker 7: But someone who is also under threat is kiss Starma.
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Speaker 3: Over in the UK.
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Speaker 7: Pressure is mounting on him to resign, Calls from backbenches now,
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Speaker 7: even a call from the leader of the Labor Party
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Speaker 7: in Scotland.
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Speaker 3: Have a look.
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Speaker 9: This isn't easy and it's not without pain, as I
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Speaker 9: have a genuine friendship with Cure Starmer, but my first
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Speaker 9: priority and my first loyalty is to my country, Scotland.
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Speaker 9: That's why the distraction needs to end and the leadership
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Speaker 9: in Downing Street has to change.
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Speaker 7: Look, he's not wrong Starma's strategy up there, but his
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Speaker 7: friend not a great friend either. Starma's strategy, it seems like,
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Speaker 7: up until this point, has been to get senior advisors
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Speaker 7: around him to resign and cop the blame. His chief
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Speaker 7: of staff and closest ally resigned. His director of communications
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Speaker 7: at number ten has now also resigned. But even if
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Speaker 7: you put the Epstein saga aside, where clearly him and
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Speaker 7: his team have made terrible blunders, this guy just simply
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Speaker 7: cannot land the punch.
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Speaker 4: It is possible to have.
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Speaker 10: A good resignation, you know, a good resignation.
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Speaker 4: Oh I'm looking forward to how you're gonna sell this
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Speaker 4: to me.
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Speaker 10: Look, people really like it when you go just a
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Speaker 10: bit early, you know, steely Jeorde fin away, look in
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Speaker 10: your eyes before they get into the point where I
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Speaker 10: sit round of the pump and saying oh that to go,
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Speaker 10: you surprise them, blay me, he's gone. I didn't expect that. Resigned,
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Speaker 10: you don't see that much anymore old school respect.
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Speaker 5: I rather like the guy who was handed up.
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Speaker 1: By the Yes, how about that?
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Speaker 4: Huh what a way to go?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I imagine there's a favorit of chaos in number
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Speaker 7: ten tonight, Caleb.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean that's how they should. He should just
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Speaker 2: walk out now and say, look, I'm sorry, I can't
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 1: I missed it all up. We gotta go.
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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the punch, and the guy, it should
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Speaker 2: be noted, is fighting literally to keep his job and
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Speaker 2: just trying.
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Speaker 4: Yes, this is good and again that's it.
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Speaker 2: And again, and if that's the level of fact he has,
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Speaker 2: he doesn't have long lift. I should note that he
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Speaker 2: has been in all is currently in a cabinet meeting
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Speaker 2: at the moment. So what will come out of that
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Speaker 2: we shall see. But surely this is a situation where
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Speaker 2: it has just become so toxic.
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Speaker 1: It's a bit like the Libs.
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Speaker 2: Which we can talk about in a moment, but it's
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Speaker 2: just become so toxic that even if you think you're
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Speaker 2: still the right man to be the Prime minister or
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Speaker 2: the leader. There's such a stench around you that there
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Speaker 2: has to be some kind of you cut it loose,
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Speaker 2: just so we can excise this problem and we can
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Speaker 2: move on. If he stays on, the whole Epstein thing
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Speaker 2: is just going to continue around him until he goes.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not sure about that, and I'm not sure
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Speaker 5: that the Epstein thing is actually costing Labor that many votes.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's Labour's beginning problem.
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Speaker 1: What is causing this internal implosion?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, I think that it's what Starmer's enemies
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Speaker 5: who have always hated him, and you know old Corbinisters
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Speaker 5: who can't forgive him for dragging the party back towards
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Speaker 5: the center, who been looking for any excuse to roll him.
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Speaker 5: They're obviously not going to do it on a legal
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Speaker 5: immigration because that's their pet issue, and so they just
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Speaker 5: pick this. They picked Peter Mandelson, who is someone the
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Speaker 5: left of the Labor Party has always hated. This is
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Speaker 5: someone who you know, the Corbnites would have voodoo dolls
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Speaker 5: of that they would stick hatpins in at night.
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Speaker 4: He is there.
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Speaker 5: You know, they hate all these blair Wite figures, you know,
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Speaker 5: third way figures, sensible people when They're not hanging out
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Speaker 5: with Jeffrey Epstein anyway, but people whose politics are more
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Speaker 5: sensible and centrist. And so I think the left is
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Speaker 5: trying to use this and potentially even making more noise
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Speaker 5: about Starma's leadership being in trouble than that it actually
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Speaker 5: really is, just in terms of sheer numbers and support.
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Speaker 5: If they do have to go to a polony fights
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Speaker 5: it out, I mean, it has to go to the
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Speaker 5: party membership, and you will end up going back, you know,
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Speaker 5: you take the problem back to where it was under
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Speaker 5: Jeremy Corbyn with these crazy borderline commie, sort of unreconstructed
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Speaker 5: hardline left wingers who had a massive seam of anti
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Speaker 5: Semitism running through them, you know, the sort of people
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Speaker 5: who you know, full of praise for Venezuela and Hugo
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Speaker 5: Chavez and at the same time condemn Israel.
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Speaker 7: And that's why I think it will be interesting to
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Speaker 7: see where it all lands, because I think a lot
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Speaker 7: of MPs will be saying, of course Starmer is bad.
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Speaker 7: Of course our numbers are tanging. But one who else
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Speaker 7: would want this job? And two who else would want
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Speaker 7: this job? What is the risk?
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Speaker 4: Well, the people are trying to roll him.
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Speaker 5: Are the left, so presumably they roll him and then
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Speaker 5: take the party to the left. How does that not
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Speaker 5: make all of their problems worse?
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Speaker 7: Kind of a reverse to what's going on in the
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Speaker 7: Liberal Party at the moment, where Susan Lee's leadership is
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Speaker 7: also under massive pressure. It's now expected that Angus Taylor
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Speaker 7: will resis design from the front bench tomorrow in order
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Speaker 7: to trigger a spill and potentially spill at a party
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Speaker 7: room meeting on Friday. But an unlikely character popped up
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Speaker 7: at Parliament today in Canberra, and it was of course
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Speaker 7: Malcolm Turnbull, who whenever there is a whiff of chaos
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Speaker 7: of a good gossip session, he is the first to
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Speaker 7: pop his head up and add no value to any
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Speaker 7: of the commentary. And here he was today saying, basically,
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Speaker 7: the problem with the Liberal Party is that they just
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Speaker 7: chase votes from you, the sky News audience.
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Speaker 12: This is the inevitable consequence for the Liberal Party of
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Speaker 12: imagining that the goal of politics is to seek the
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Speaker 12: approval of the Sky News audience. Now that may well
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Speaker 12: represent many of the members of their branches, but it
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Speaker 12: does not represent Australia.
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Speaker 7: I actually think if the Liberal Party had taken our
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Speaker 7: advice on that zero cutting immigration, having some serious policy,
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Speaker 7: they'll probably be doing a lot better in the polls
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Speaker 7: right now. And instead One Nation is now the second
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Speaker 7: largest party in Australia. So while the Liberal Party should
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Speaker 7: focus more on what its base is actually thinking, Malcolm
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Speaker 7: Turnbull should focus less on what the millionaires of Point
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Speaker 7: Piper are thinking.
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Speaker 3: He lives in another world.
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Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it, Because when Turnbull was Prime minister,
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Speaker 2: what was it, twenty sixteen, he went to an election,
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Speaker 2: he lost eighteen seats. He held on by one seat.
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Speaker 2: So the last time we had a moderate leading the
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party as Prime minister, he almost sent them into opposition.
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Speaker 1: Basically.
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Speaker 2: The only thing that then got them back, well, there
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Speaker 2: were two things that got them over the line again
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Speaker 2: when Morrison was Prime minister was a Bill Shorten. But
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Speaker 2: also be that you had someone there who had runs
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Speaker 2: on the board in two of serious Liberal policy in
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison. We knew what he did in terms of
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Speaker 2: stopping the boats. He was the man for the job.
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Speaker 2: But the record shows that the last time the Libs
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Speaker 2: put up a moderate for prime minister, they lost eighteen
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Speaker 2: seats in one shot.
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Speaker 5: That's right, and Also, the last time they put up
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Speaker 5: a hard right as a leader, Labor Party won ninety
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Speaker 5: four seats and the Liberal leader lost his seat. So
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Speaker 5: the lesson is the lesson is that John Howard was
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Speaker 5: absolutely right.
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Speaker 4: He said it.
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Speaker 5: It's not like this is some big secret and I
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Speaker 5: don't know why no one in the Liberal Party has
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Speaker 5: the brains to get their head around it. The Liberal
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Speaker 5: Party is a broad church only works as a broad church.
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Speaker 5: And you need to be able to manage both sides
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Speaker 5: of the party.
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Speaker 4: You need to be able.
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Speaker 5: A good leader needs to be able to straddle both
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Speaker 5: project different aspects of the party to different parts of
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Speaker 5: the electorate. And this is this is where Susan Lee
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Speaker 5: has got herself into it so much trouble, Like with
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Speaker 5: the NAT splitting on the free speech stuff or the
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Speaker 5: hate speech stuff.
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Speaker 4: Whatever you want to call it. She could have actually
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Speaker 4: played that to her.
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Speaker 5: Advantage and said, look, the Nats do what they want
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Speaker 5: because we're a party that doesn't. We're not like the
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Speaker 5: Labour Party. We don't dictate, you know, we're not the
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Speaker 5: thought police who say what have to think And the
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Speaker 5: Nats can go and say, see free speeches, it's okay,
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Speaker 5: you're safe with us, so you can still vote with
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Speaker 5: us and know that we'll be advancing that argument in
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Speaker 5: the Parliament and in the party room, and you can
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Speaker 5: go to the Libs, can go to the Jewish community
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Speaker 5: and to the the housewives of Malvern and say look,
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Speaker 5: see we're with you where you know, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 5: But instead by demanding that the party throw all its
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Speaker 5: eggs in this basket or that basket, you end up
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Speaker 5: just reducing the number of people you appeal to. You
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Speaker 5: lose the Gnats over there, you lose the Libs over there,
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Speaker 5: and suddenly you're on eighteen percent.
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Speaker 3: But the problem is.
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Speaker 7: To keep the broad Church together, you actually have to
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Speaker 7: agree on some basic value, some basic principles, and some
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Speaker 7: basic policy. In the absence of strong leadership from the top,
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Speaker 7: there is very little for liberals of that broad cha
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Speaker 7: much to agree on, and so they're ripping each other apart.
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Speaker 7: This is why leadership is so important. John Howard was
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Speaker 7: able to give the Liberal Party and all of their
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Speaker 7: MPs a vision to get behind.
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Speaker 3: We just have not seen that think.
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Speaker 5: With John Howard, right, and again, he didn't really lay
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Speaker 5: out this great sort of manifesto, didn't really lay out
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Speaker 5: this great vision. What John Howard has was an incredible
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Speaker 5: instinct for knowing where typical Australians, average Australians would land
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Speaker 5: on or feel about a particular issue. So when Tampa happened,
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Speaker 5: he didn't say, you know, nine ninety eight and when
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Speaker 5: the first boatqu refugees comes along, where you will turn
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Speaker 5: it around? It landed on his doorstep and he said,
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Speaker 5: you know what, I don't think Australians will cop this,
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Speaker 5: And he made the he had great political instincts, and
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Speaker 5: again he did that by and so he could, you know,
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Speaker 5: turn one way to another. What I want to know though,
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Speaker 5: and just quickly Forray, because you're the expert in all
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Speaker 5: these internal machinations. Is this idea now from the moderates
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Speaker 5: And this again speaks to me as an example of
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Speaker 5: why they're in so.
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Speaker 4: Much deep deep doodoo.
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Speaker 5: The idea that you would do what Turnbull did, force
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Speaker 5: everyone to sign a petition so you have a blood list.
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Speaker 5: I've got a little list of all the people who
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Speaker 5: are coming after lay presumably say that you can exact
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Speaker 5: revenge on them the next time we get a change.
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Speaker 3: It's clearly just desperation.
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Speaker 7: I mean they know this, they know this spill is on.
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Speaker 7: They know Susan Lee doesn't have the numbers. Of course
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Speaker 7: it'll be tight, but they're just trying to intimidate people
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Speaker 7: into not pulling the trigger. But I fear it's too
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Speaker 7: late for her and it.
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Speaker 2: Just keeps all of this miss going. Now we're talking
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Speaker 2: about Malcolm Turnbull. I said at the top of the show,
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Speaker 2: was the man who brought in the bonk band. Seeing
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Speaker 2: as he was back in Canberra today hanging around Parliament House,
18:37
Speaker 2: I wonder if he went and poked his head into
18:39
Speaker 2: the women's changing rooms. I'm sure he can probably do
18:42
Speaker 2: that if he identifies only can identify as a woman
18:46
Speaker 2: for the day.
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Speaker 1: You can do that these days.
18:47
Speaker 2: Just go and have a look, because apparently they are
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Speaker 2: serving up condoms.
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Speaker 1: Would you believe it? He's Jane him.
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Speaker 13: Condoms are provided in the women's changing room. You were
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Speaker 13: aware of this? I was not aware of that, Senator,
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Speaker 13: know that they're not provided in the men's changing room.
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Speaker 13: I was not aware of that, Senator. Do you think
19:04
Speaker 13: that's a stranger normally.
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Speaker 5: A senator?
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Speaker 12: I believe it's absolutely wonderful that women are taking care
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Speaker 12: of their own sexual health.
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Speaker 14: I agree with you, Miss Hinda, I just wonder why
19:15
Speaker 14: men aren't taking responsibility as well we are.
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Speaker 13: It's a good question, Senator Human. We'll discuss it further.
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Speaker 5: Deep years to say, quickly, how good was the bit
19:26
Speaker 5: where she said I think men should be as well
19:28
Speaker 5: and someone thought, oh, this is the moment here we.
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Speaker 1: Are okay, what is what is going on? One?
19:37
Speaker 2: Why is the text payer providing them with condoms in
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Speaker 2: the first place, in the changing rooms at the gym?
19:43
Speaker 5: And also what brand are we talking about?
19:46
Speaker 1: How much are we paying for this? How much are
19:49
Speaker 1: we paying for this?
19:50
Speaker 2: But why are they only in the women's changing We're
19:53
Speaker 2: not the men's changing room. There's something really odd going
19:57
Speaker 2: on here, like look, maybe it sees something that they
20:01
Speaker 2: get up to in the gyms at Parliament House.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this just.
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Speaker 7: This is wrong on so many levels. I thought after
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Speaker 7: the Britney Higgins saga we had all learned our lesson.
20:15
Speaker 7: Let's completely discourage any form of sexual activity within Parliament's walls.
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Speaker 7: It never ends well for anyone. I don't see why
20:26
Speaker 7: Parliament would be providing condoms to any gender to be perfect.
20:30
Speaker 5: Well, maybe it's a vending machine, maybe it's an enterprising,
20:32
Speaker 5: you know, enterprising young entrepreneurs. Gee whiz, you know where
20:35
Speaker 5: I could move a lot of units of my you know,
20:38
Speaker 5: the trojan rib ticklers, women's change room.
20:42
Speaker 2: I just all the of all the things that they
20:47
Speaker 2: could be providing as little extras to employees in Parliament House.
20:52
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why condoms in the women's changing room
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Speaker 2: is one of them.
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Speaker 5: Right only, without a doubt, the only place in Parliament
20:59
Speaker 5: House that condoms should ever be seen is the prayer room.
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Speaker 1: All we know about that, don't we.
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Speaker 2: And as I look, it's not the first time I've
21:06
Speaker 2: used the line tonight, but you can't say that we
21:08
Speaker 2: don't bring you the hard news here on scar News.
21:11
Speaker 5: That's just absolutely terrible and I can't believe you've resorted
21:14
Speaker 5: to such below the belt humor.
21:16
Speaker 4: Anyway, Let's get to.
21:18
Speaker 5: What happens when you don't wear a condom, and that
21:22
Speaker 5: is you have a baby. And if you have a baby,
21:25
Speaker 5: then you have to name the baby. And if this
21:28
Speaker 5: is beyond your mental capacity, then fear not, because probably
21:33
Speaker 5: the same guy who put in the vending machine and
21:35
Speaker 5: women's change room, an.
21:37
Speaker 4: Entrepreneur that's the circular.
21:39
Speaker 5: Decided it is the circular economy. It's the virtuous circle.
21:43
Speaker 5: And entrepreneurs decided that there's a hole in the market
21:47
Speaker 5: for baby name consultants. Yes, there is actually now such
21:51
Speaker 5: a job as a baby name consultant, someone who you
21:55
Speaker 5: ring up an ask or maybe invite round for a
21:58
Speaker 5: cup of tea and seat of have a bit of
21:59
Speaker 5: a back and forth, maybe go over some spreadsheets. I'm
22:02
Speaker 5: sure they come with nice little lists in pink and
22:05
Speaker 5: blue with nice fonts and.
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Speaker 4: You know, I imagine a little floral border as well, something
22:09
Speaker 4: like that.
22:10
Speaker 5: But there is actually a job now, and this is
22:13
Speaker 5: a stop the world. I want to get off the
22:15
Speaker 5: moment for people who are too I don't know, dumb
22:20
Speaker 5: or not.
22:20
Speaker 1: Not emotionally and gazing.
22:23
Speaker 4: With the the baby. You're just not really speaking to me.
22:28
Speaker 5: Let's call let's call it, you know, Joe's baby consulting Soriety.
22:32
Speaker 2: They should have, you know, Jim's mowing and stuff, Jim's
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Speaker 2: baby names.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, no, I think you're being completely unfair here.
22:40
Speaker 7: Baby names. I mean there are so many, there are
22:42
Speaker 7: thousands and thousands you could possibly choose from. I don't
22:45
Speaker 7: even know where you would start it. It would be
22:48
Speaker 7: completely overwhelming. Sometimes you need some expert advice, someone who
22:52
Speaker 7: has seen a lot of baby who has names a
22:57
Speaker 7: lot of children and can help you in that process.
23:01
Speaker 7: And you also don't want to accidentally end up with
23:04
Speaker 7: a name that is frankly ridiculous, like this UK pop
23:08
Speaker 7: singer Anne Marie, who revealed the name of her son
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Speaker 7: on British television. I'll be keen to hear your thoughts
23:16
Speaker 7: on what it is.
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Speaker 3: Have a look, do you want to know?
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Speaker 15: Ye?
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Speaker 1: Okay, his name is Forever or yeah, Forever sugar.
23:23
Speaker 2: Sugar's his middle name because I had I had the
23:25
Speaker 2: diabetes thing that you get when you're pregnant, so.
23:28
Speaker 16: You couldn't eat like cereal or not and nothing, So
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Speaker 16: I thought, what a perfect middle name, Forever Sugar.
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Speaker 7: I think she would have done the world of favor
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Speaker 7: if she had used a baby name consultant.
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Speaker 4: I'll take everything I said back, but I'm.
23:41
Speaker 2: Sorry, but the kind of person who would name their
23:44
Speaker 2: child Forever Sugar is the kind of person who would
23:47
Speaker 2: never even think to use a baby name consultant because
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Speaker 2: they would think I've got the best name in the world.
23:52
Speaker 2: And I can't be convinced otherwise. Like, I'm sorry, having
23:55
Speaker 2: a child is not like working in the government department.
23:59
Speaker 2: You don't have to call in a consultant to do
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Speaker 2: everything for you if you can't make basic decisions like that,
24:06
Speaker 2: and if you have as the only one here who's
24:08
Speaker 2: had a child, Joe, surely from the moment you even
24:12
Speaker 2: thought about having a kid, you were thinking of baby
24:15
Speaker 2: names right away, right.
24:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, And you have to and and I
24:19
Speaker 5: think our policy was simply you name the baby after
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Speaker 5: the words that were said at the moments of its conception,
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Speaker 5: which is why my firstborn son is called oh God, yes,
24:34
Speaker 5: and my daughter is called don't stop.
24:38
Speaker 4: Good great.
24:39
Speaker 1: I'm going to make how long? How long are you
24:43
Speaker 1: be out that door? In a minute, I've got to
24:44
Speaker 1: make called boy.
24:45
Speaker 2: And he's literally called boy because he's an older fell
24:48
Speaker 2: But when he was born, his father didn't make it
24:52
Speaker 2: into the hospital because he has had a few too
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Speaker 2: many to.
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Speaker 1: Drink, and the nurses as a place name wrote on
24:58
Speaker 1: his form, boy, she is stuck, and there we go.
25:01
Speaker 1: He became boy.
25:02
Speaker 2: And if having a baby name consultant isn't good enough
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Speaker 2: for you, look, I don't know whether you're waiting until
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Speaker 2: after the marriage to have kids, or whether you're falln
25:10
Speaker 2: catered and you're dealing with this problem later. But if
25:12
Speaker 2: you're getting married, apparently you can also hire a bridesmaid now,
25:17
Speaker 2: because you know, I suppose we all know about the
25:19
Speaker 2: idea of the bridezilla, but this was in the news
25:23
Speaker 2: court papers that it is a job one woman is
25:26
Speaker 2: doing where TSH. Scott is her name, where you can
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Speaker 2: hire her for up to ten grand to be your bridesmaid.
25:33
Speaker 1: Here she is.
25:35
Speaker 3: I had a bride a couple of years ago.
25:37
Speaker 16: We were in the same country at the same time,
25:39
Speaker 16: just happenstance, so we kind of made that that we
25:41
Speaker 16: had met traveling I had moved back. But the craziest
25:45
Speaker 16: part of that whole kind of situation is that her
25:49
Speaker 16: groom didn't know that we did, think that I was
25:52
Speaker 16: a friend. She had a different phone that she would
25:54
Speaker 16: text me on the sincase she wanted to be very
25:56
Speaker 16: top secret.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what to say. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what to say.
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Speaker 7: I think I would really set the marriage off on
26:05
Speaker 7: the wrong foot. If at your wedding you're lying to
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Speaker 7: your groom about how you know one of the women
26:11
Speaker 7: in your wedding party, it's really weird.
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Speaker 5: But also that your wife has to actually purchase bridesmaids
26:18
Speaker 5: because she doesn't she doesn't have enough friends. Or is
26:21
Speaker 5: the idea that being a bridesmaid now is actually more
26:23
Speaker 5: of a job because you've got to go to the
26:25
Speaker 5: dress fitting and.
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Speaker 3: No, this is I see it.
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Speaker 7: I understand it as someone who married a year ago.
26:32
Speaker 7: There is a lot that happens on the wedding day.
26:34
Speaker 7: You want someone that is aware of everything that needs
26:37
Speaker 7: to be done, that can bring all your stuff to
26:40
Speaker 7: all the different places that you're going to and sometimes
26:43
Speaker 7: to be perfectly honest. Love my bridesmaids, but they're more
26:47
Speaker 7: concerned with how their own hair and makeup and dresses
26:49
Speaker 7: look and less concerned about yours.
26:52
Speaker 3: So I am Wira.
26:53
Speaker 5: Butler, or hire someone whose job that is like hire
26:57
Speaker 5: a courier, well, somebody person.
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Speaker 7: They do have wedding day coordinators who manage the day itself,
27:03
Speaker 7: but this is so you have someone literally with you
27:06
Speaker 7: the whole day. I do think it's ridiculous, but I
27:10
Speaker 7: do understand weddings have just spiraled in terms of what's expected,
27:15
Speaker 7: and that is stressful for Peter.
27:16
Speaker 5: So you're going to have a professional bridesmaid, then you're
27:18
Speaker 5: going to have your baby name consultant and then then.
27:21
Speaker 7: What outsource everything? That's basically the motto of life. But
27:26
Speaker 7: let's change gears a little bit and look at Grace Tame.
27:29
Speaker 7: She popped up at the protest yesterday evening at town
27:33
Speaker 7: Hall and chanted globalize the interfiner.
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Speaker 3: Really tasteful stuff. Have a look.
27:41
Speaker 16: From Geagada gl.
27:46
Speaker 9: Okay Yo.
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Speaker 7: Now that's a chant that has been widely condemned. It's
27:53
Speaker 7: widely acknowledged that it is calling for the globalizing of
27:57
Speaker 7: violence against Jews. But in question time today when Albanezi
28:02
Speaker 7: was asked to condemn it, he dodged the question.
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Speaker 14: Well, the Prime Minister today show leadership, disassociate himself from
28:10
Speaker 14: these words and unequivocally condemn this disgusting display of anti
28:15
Speaker 14: Semitism by the former Australian of the Year.
28:19
Speaker 15: We need to not continually look for political opportunities from
28:25
Speaker 15: what is a devastating situation or need to turn the
28:31
Speaker 15: temperature down.
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Speaker 3: Why can he not condemn her.
28:36
Speaker 7: Just because you've done good work on something else on
28:39
Speaker 7: sexual assault does not mean you are immune from criticism
28:44
Speaker 7: on all other issues, especially when you are chanting calls
28:49
Speaker 7: for violence.
28:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean the truth is elbows, you know,
28:54
Speaker 5: and this is sometimes what gets him in trouble quite frankly,
28:56
Speaker 5: because people think he's not being strident enough. But his
28:58
Speaker 5: instinct in all of these things is to do exactly
29:00
Speaker 5: what he just said, which is to calm everything down,
29:03
Speaker 5: to not use any inflammatory language, not use any particular
29:06
Speaker 5: emotive language, even when people are.
29:08
Speaker 4: Saying, no, this is when we need you to step up.
29:10
Speaker 7: And you know how hard is it to just say
29:12
Speaker 7: I disagree with what she said. I respect her work
29:15
Speaker 7: on other issues, but calling to globalize it defarta.
29:18
Speaker 5: Is obviously you would have this whole bunch of these crazy,
29:22
Speaker 5: nutty lefty douchebags rising up and saying.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, he's you know, punching down on a
29:28
Speaker 4: victim of sexual.
29:29
Speaker 5: Violence and blah blahlah blah, which is exactly what they
29:32
Speaker 5: would do. And you know that is exactly here's the problem.
29:35
Speaker 2: But that is the problem is that she's seemingly untouchable
29:40
Speaker 2: because of her history, which is just wrong. I mean,
29:43
Speaker 2: he says, you know, why are we looking to create
29:45
Speaker 2: political opportunities? The only real political opportunity that was created
29:49
Speaker 2: here was by him refusing to condemn that call. All
29:54
Speaker 2: he had to say was Grace Tame I think was
29:57
Speaker 2: an exceptional Australian of the Year and did good work
30:00
Speaker 2: and was deserving of the title when it was given
30:02
Speaker 2: to her. But the comments she made last night were
30:05
Speaker 2: beyond the pale.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then she would I have no doubt the
30:07
Speaker 5: Grace Tame would have responded to that on social media
30:10
Speaker 5: and all her supporters would have joined in this massive pylon,
30:12
Speaker 5: and it just it wouldn't have been wrong, but it
30:14
Speaker 5: would just have been a distraction, just yet another distraction
30:18
Speaker 5: that frankly, the PM doesn't need and the public doesn't
30:21
Speaker 5: need at a time. I mean, you've already got all
30:23
Speaker 5: these people at the protest. They made fools of themselves,
30:26
Speaker 5: including a couple of State Labor MPs who shouldn't have
30:29
Speaker 5: been there, but you know, they just looked idiotic. I mean,
30:32
Speaker 5: there's a cease fire in Gaza now, for Christ's sake.
30:35
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously everyone's accusing the other side of not
30:38
Speaker 5: abiding by it, but they've actually signed a deal, they're
30:40
Speaker 5: moving towards something resembling piece and still you've got these
30:45
Speaker 5: morons out in the street defying police orders for the
30:49
Speaker 5: visit of an ex labor Left leader and who now
30:53
Speaker 5: has a ceremonial position in Israel. Like, these guys just
30:56
Speaker 5: want anything to protest about. They don't make any good arguments,
31:00
Speaker 5: so I don't say what anything should look like, how
31:02
Speaker 5: two state solutions would work. They just screen things and
31:04
Speaker 5: shout them louder. They shout whatever they've been told they're
31:07
Speaker 5: not allowed to shout because that's so edgy. But they
31:09
Speaker 5: just look like idiots now, they just look desperate, and
31:11
Speaker 5: so you know, yeah, free speech, stand up and be counted.
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Speaker 7: Look like idiots, and that's the irony. Herzog is from
31:17
Speaker 7: the left in Israel. And speaking of left wing groups,
31:22
Speaker 7: the Jewish Council of Australia, which is a fringe left
31:25
Speaker 7: wing supposedly Jewish representative group, although they represent a tiny, tiny,
31:31
Speaker 7: tiny fraction of the Jewish community and look frankly their
31:36
Speaker 7: desperation for relevance was on full display today when they
31:40
Speaker 7: took out a massive full page ad in The Age
31:43
Speaker 7: and the Sydney Morning Herald. They claimed their open letter
31:47
Speaker 7: against Herzog's visit was signed by one thousand Jews, seven
31:52
Speaker 7: hundred of whom names were printed.
31:55
Speaker 3: In the newspaper.
31:57
Speaker 7: Except when you drill into many of these names many
32:03
Speaker 7: are actually fake, made up or insults or names of
32:07
Speaker 7: Nazi collaborators. They had milked Tachat, which apparently means asslicka
32:14
Speaker 7: in Hebrew, Joseph Heiden, Eliza Gruenbaum, and Carmen Maury. These
32:20
Speaker 7: were notorious collaborators with the Nazis. And then earlier this
32:25
Speaker 7: evening on Kenny on the Kenny Report, a man David
32:30
Speaker 7: Slade talked about how his and his wife's name were
32:34
Speaker 7: included on this list even though they had no idea
32:37
Speaker 7: that they were going to be included.
32:39
Speaker 3: Have a look, of.
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Speaker 11: Course, they included people who are Zionists like my wife,
32:43
Speaker 11: Tammy and me, without our knowledge, without our consent, without
32:48
Speaker 11: our approval, in a national newspaper. We were mortified. We
32:53
Speaker 11: were horrified. This is a gross ethical failure, a clear
32:58
Speaker 11: act of mister representation, and it corrodes community community trust.
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Speaker 7: Gosh, they were so desperate to fill out their seven
33:06
Speaker 7: hundred Jewish names that they had to start making names
33:10
Speaker 7: up and letting through insults and Nazi collaborators.
33:14
Speaker 3: It's disgraceful.
33:15
Speaker 5: There are about one hundred and twenty thousand Jews in Australia.
33:20
Speaker 5: These guys couldn't even get a one thousand fake signatures,
33:25
Speaker 5: yeah right, and then of the seven hundred that go there,
33:29
Speaker 5: even those are riddled with clearly made up names or
33:33
Speaker 5: people whose names have been put on without their permission
33:37
Speaker 5: or their knowledge. So we are talking, you know, well
33:40
Speaker 5: about what half a percent that would be, if it's
33:44
Speaker 5: even legit, they would be between half and less than
33:46
Speaker 5: one percent of the entire Jewish population. But of course
33:50
Speaker 5: these guys are you know, Jews for Palestine.
33:53
Speaker 4: You know they're not.
33:54
Speaker 5: You know, that doesn't mean we're going after Jews. Just
33:57
Speaker 5: ninety nine percent they miss.
33:59
Speaker 1: Listen, you would well remember Joe as well.
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Speaker 2: Your first day as a journalism cadet, one of the
34:05
Speaker 2: first things they tell you is triple check the names.
34:08
Speaker 2: You never get the names wrong. Maybe they should have
34:12
Speaker 2: gone checking the names to make sure Arslicka didn't make
34:15
Speaker 2: it into their petition because it rather discredits what they're
34:18
Speaker 2: trying to say. Very quickly, before we get to a break,
34:21
Speaker 2: Queensland has decided that they're not going to institute rules
34:26
Speaker 2: where if you go for a gun license you would
34:28
Speaker 2: have to have your mental health history check. This comes
34:31
Speaker 2: out of the inquest into the shooting at William Biller
34:34
Speaker 2: a few years ago, and it was suggested that there
34:37
Speaker 2: should be a mental health check in order to have
34:39
Speaker 2: a firearm. Instead, they've made it that if a doctor
34:42
Speaker 2: thinks you are at risk of doing something violent.
34:45
Speaker 1: That they would have to report that.
34:46
Speaker 2: But of course that you know, if you go for
34:48
Speaker 2: your gun license, they're not going to go and talk
34:50
Speaker 2: to every doctor you've ever had. That sort of relies
34:52
Speaker 2: on at a certain point in time, a doctor makes
34:54
Speaker 2: the report. Surely, if you go for a gun license,
34:56
Speaker 2: it's pretty common sense they should check your mental health history,
34:59
Speaker 2: because schizophrenic people or whatever shouldn't have a gun.
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Speaker 1: I don't see what the issue is.
35:03
Speaker 5: I don't see what the issue is either. And also,
35:05
Speaker 5: unless you tell your doctor that you've got a gun,
35:07
Speaker 5: how would your doctor know, I know exactly, unless they
35:10
Speaker 5: you know, the doctor's going to be there looking up
35:12
Speaker 5: the gun registry saying, oh, I better check if any
35:14
Speaker 5: of my patients have guns.
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Speaker 4: Maybe they do do that.
35:17
Speaker 5: I don't know, but it just seems weird to me.
35:19
Speaker 5: I do not understand why. Maybe I'm just a city slicker,
35:23
Speaker 5: but I don't understand why, you know, having you know,
35:27
Speaker 5: only being allowed to have ten guns or four guns
35:29
Speaker 5: or whatever.
35:29
Speaker 4: That is in any way repressing.
35:32
Speaker 2: Look, look I have issues with that, but I don't
35:34
Speaker 2: have an issue with chopping people with mental health problems
35:36
Speaker 2: having guns. After the break, we'll have a look at
35:38
Speaker 2: the papers. The shocking number of serious incidents in New
35:42
Speaker 2: South Wales childcare sinders and if it's happening in New
35:44
Speaker 2: South Wales, you can imagine it's happening everywhere else.
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Speaker 1: Don't your way.
35:58
Speaker 2: Let's get stuck into tomorrow's news. I chatting with the
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Speaker 2: Australian Prayer.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 7: The headline that caught our I was ABC splashes three
36:05
Speaker 7: hundred and forty k on Higgins documentary. The ABC's managing
36:10
Speaker 7: director has revealed the taxpayer funded broadcasters stumped up three
36:13
Speaker 7: hundred and forty thousand dollars to help bankroll a documentary
36:17
Speaker 7: starring Britney Higgins entitled Silenced, but insists it will not
36:23
Speaker 7: suggest she was silenced by her former bosses Linda Reynolds
36:28
Speaker 7: and Fiona Brown.
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Speaker 3: Hmmm.
36:30
Speaker 7: Hugh Marx's revelation came during a fiery Senate estimates hearing
36:34
Speaker 7: with Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson, raising concerns about the outline
36:39
Speaker 7: of the production and the ABC's decision to fund it.
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Speaker 3: So let's get this straight.
36:45
Speaker 7: The documentary is called Silence, starring Britney Higgins, but it
36:50
Speaker 7: will not suggest she was silenced by her former employers,
36:55
Speaker 7: so ran silent spy the media definitely not.
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Speaker 1: What are we paying for here?
37:02
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure the media to correct. It's so funny,
37:05
Speaker 5: isn't it. Like it's so clear that there's you still
37:08
Speaker 5: see it, but like there's just a whole sort of
37:11
Speaker 5: class of people who are so committed to this narrative
37:15
Speaker 5: that every single bit of evidence, like literal actual evidence
37:20
Speaker 5: tended to the court in two separate court cases that
37:25
Speaker 5: shows that there is absolutely no truth to it whatsoever.
37:27
Speaker 5: In fact, the opposite is true. But they just kind
37:30
Speaker 5: of can't quite adjust, like they're still it's like it's
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Speaker 5: kind of like you're just on autopilot or you're just like, oh, no,
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Speaker 5: she was silenced, because that's you know, that's how I
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Speaker 5: imagine it in my head.
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Speaker 4: It's like, but the.
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Speaker 7: Facts because the story is too good for them. It
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Speaker 7: is too good. It meets too many of their stereotypes
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Speaker 7: and every.
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Speaker 3: Box I believes.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, it ticks none of the boxes.
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Speaker 7: None of the boxes of truth, as the court has
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Speaker 7: found let's look at another headline in the Australian Tomorrow.
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Speaker 7: Job well done, says protester in chief, the figurehead for
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Speaker 7: Australia's pro Palestine protest movement, has applauded demonstrators who tried
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Speaker 7: to break the law by marching at a violent anti
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Speaker 7: Israel rally, as police charged nine people, including one for
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Speaker 7: a legendly biting an officer. Palestine actually group organized. Josh Lee,
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Speaker 7: speaking at a follow up rally against police conduct on
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Speaker 7: Tuesday night, said Monday's protests at Sydney Town Hall, where
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Speaker 7: dozens were tackled and capsicam sprayed by police, was quoite,
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Speaker 7: completely legal, and commended those who tried to march. Some
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Speaker 7: people did try to march last night. Some did absolutely
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Speaker 7: and good on them, he said. So here is Josh Lee'
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Speaker 7: is the protest pest encouraging and applauding people for breaking
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Speaker 7: police instructions and the law, trying to march, trying to
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Speaker 7: break police lines.
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Speaker 3: That's the reason they got arrested.
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Speaker 7: That's the reason for the so called brutality that they
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Speaker 7: now protesting against.
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Speaker 3: They brought it on themselves.
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Speaker 4: Part of their modus operani. Again, it's what they want.
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Speaker 5: They want to provoke a police reaction and then complain
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Speaker 5: to be the victims when the police do exactly what
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Speaker 5: they tried to get.
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Speaker 4: Them to do.
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Speaker 2: Bring back the water cannons, last them away and it'd
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Speaker 2: probably give him a good wash too, which I imagine
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Speaker 2: a lot of them need.
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Speaker 1: On this theme.
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Speaker 2: On the front of the Canberra Times tomorrow, police to
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Speaker 2: be out in force. Thousands are sent to protest Isaac
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Speaker 2: Herzog's arrival in Canberra today, with police to be out
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Speaker 2: in force amid tensions over the Israeli president's official visit.
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Speaker 2: Just as a newspaper man, can I say when you've
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Speaker 2: got the same words used.
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Speaker 1: In the lead and the headline.
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Speaker 2: It's not terribly creative, but anyway, activists from the ACT
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Speaker 2: and into State will rally on the front lawns of
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Speaker 2: Parliament House, protesting mister Herzog and his government's actions in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East and the Albanese government's decision to welcome him.
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Speaker 2: Palestine Action Group Canberra coordinator Diana Abdul Rahman said mister
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Speaker 2: Herzog had been accused of in starting genocide and his
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Speaker 2: visit would tanny Australian.
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Speaker 5: Democracy, accusing him of insiting genocide. It's like he's been
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Speaker 5: accused of inciting genocide bias.
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Speaker 2: So I'm a bit stuck on this business that it
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Speaker 2: would tarnish Australian democracy, which which part is undemocratic?
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Speaker 5: Do we know allow if you allow people to speak?
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Speaker 5: That very very clear.
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Speaker 2: I just get over it. And he's not he's not
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Speaker 2: running the government. He is the equivalent of the governor general.
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Speaker 2: And can you imagine if if Sam Moston were, you know,
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Speaker 2: was going overseas because Australians had been killed in another
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Speaker 2: country and people were jumping up and down and saying no,
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Speaker 2: Sam Moston can't.
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Speaker 4: Come here complicitly genocide.
40:47
Speaker 2: Complicity in you know, turning back the boats or something
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Speaker 2: when it's got nothing to do with them.
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Speaker 7: And also the fact that they are able to hold
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Speaker 7: these large protests, doesn't that just show that democracy is
40:58
Speaker 7: in fact still alive. And well, as long as you
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Speaker 7: don't go directly contravening police instruction, you are well within
41:05
Speaker 7: your right have your freedom of speech.
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Speaker 3: You've got it, you're using it. Clearly. Democracy lives to
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Speaker 3: see another day in Australia.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 5: And also you live in Canberra, so you've suffered enough
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Speaker 5: onto the Daily Telegraph now, which is the greatest newspaper
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Speaker 5: in the world, and this is an interesting little one.
41:19
Speaker 5: They've obviously gone swinging in for the coppers at the
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Speaker 5: rally last night, but it says kids safety gets serious
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Speaker 5: by my very good Irish friend who's educational reporter, whose
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Speaker 5: name I've never been able to pronounce in all the
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Speaker 5: time i've worked together, even when we've done stories together.
41:38
Speaker 5: But you're gonna see what to see you actually matter anyway,
41:41
Speaker 5: So more than nine thousand, and of course we know
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Speaker 5: some of these disturbing incidents that have already come to light.
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Speaker 5: More than nine thousand serious incidents have taken place in
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Speaker 5: New South Wales childcare centers just in a year, with
41:53
Speaker 5: a number of kids being injured or going missing reaching
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Speaker 5: record levels, all while the quality of workers has dropped
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Speaker 5: a new low, a report has found. The report and
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Speaker 5: Government services shows the rate of quote unquote serious incidents
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Speaker 5: in early childhood education and care services has risen from
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Speaker 5: less than one incident per service in twenty sixteen to
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Speaker 5: one point five to four incidents per service in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty four to twenty five, so an increase of more
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Speaker 5: than fifty percent.
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Speaker 4: You would think it would be going the other way,
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Speaker 4: wouldn't it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you'd like to think so, but of course the reporting,
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Speaker 2: particularly from the ABC on this has been quite illuminating.
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Speaker 2: And if it's nine thousand in New South Wales, you
42:35
Speaker 2: can imagine what it is in the rest of the states.
42:38
Speaker 2: If you added up across the country, the number is
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Speaker 2: going to be huge. And it simply raises the question
42:44
Speaker 2: again why do we push childcare so hard when there
42:48
Speaker 2: are other options? And you can understand on the strength
42:52
Speaker 2: of this why parents might be reticent to send their
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Speaker 2: child to certain child.
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Speaker 7: Kiss one hundred percent And it's just the fact that
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Speaker 7: that is the only option you get subsidized for by
43:01
Speaker 7: the government is appalling. In the Advertiser tomorrow, the headline
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Speaker 7: is voyage of the jammed investment or we will keep
43:10
Speaker 7: being nation's most gridlocked city. Adelaide drivers are enduring the
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Speaker 7: nation's worst gridlock because suburban transport links are not keeping
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Speaker 7: pace with a housing boom, says the state's peak Motoring
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Speaker 7: Group in an agenda setting state election call. Our AA
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Speaker 7: chief Nick Reid, wants planned transport infrastructure will not match
43:30
Speaker 7: Adelaide's forecast population of two million within five years. As
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Speaker 7: twenty three thousand new homes are added north and south
43:37
Speaker 7: of the city. Isn't this just the story everywhere though
43:41
Speaker 7: as well? I mean, as we accommodate growing populations, infrastructure
43:46
Speaker 7: just is not keeping up.
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Speaker 5: Like I better when I just had that one road
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Speaker 5: that went one way in the morning than the.
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Speaker 2: Other in the Southern Expressway, the sixy and I mean, yes,
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Speaker 2: that is a problem, but they don't have toll roads
43:57
Speaker 2: and they don't want to have that discussion.
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Speaker 1: But I think maybe they need to.
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Speaker 2: On the front of the MT News tomorrow a croc Yes,
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Speaker 2: I know, it's not the MT News really without a
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Speaker 2: PURTI of a crocodile as.
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Speaker 1: It krock cools off in park pool.
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Speaker 2: A baby crocodile has been found in the pool at
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Speaker 2: a camping and caravan park.
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Speaker 1: Delighting start.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't know I'd be that delighted if
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Speaker 2: I was going for a swim at the caravan park
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Speaker 2: and I found a bloody crock in there.
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Speaker 5: Well, it would have to be a pretty long swim
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Speaker 5: because it is just a baby croc So if you
44:28
Speaker 5: were swimming for like, you know, five years, Dan, it
44:32
Speaker 5: would really they really come at you.
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Speaker 1: But I know, I still don't really want to take
44:38
Speaker 1: my chances.
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Speaker 5: Certainly not if it was a you know, if you
44:41
Speaker 5: were swimming or natural Caleb, I think there could be
44:44
Speaker 5: certain risks that you wouldn't want to contemplate, even with
44:46
Speaker 5: the crocodile of that. I'm just I'm just stating the facts.
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Speaker 4: Chomp, draw your own conclusion.
44:51
Speaker 2: There goes mister Johnson after the break.
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Speaker 1: How would you know when you have.
44:55
Speaker 2: In the corner of a press conference the sign language person, right,
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Speaker 2: They've been put through the ring at so many times,
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Speaker 2: and I think we've got one of the best examples.
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Speaker 1: From the king being heckled the other day a girl way.
45:11
Speaker 2: If you needed any more evidence that the world has
45:14
Speaker 2: gone totally man particularly in the inner West of Sydney,
45:18
Speaker 2: I think Freyer has another example.
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Speaker 7: Oh boy do I in Newtown a concrete driveway that
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Speaker 7: is four meters wide sold this weekend for one point
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Speaker 7: two five million dollars. One point two five million dollars
45:36
Speaker 7: for a slab of concrete. That is the absurdity of
45:41
Speaker 7: the Sydney housing market. You can't even get a patch
45:43
Speaker 7: of concrete for under a million dollars anymore. How insane
45:47
Speaker 7: is that?
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Speaker 5: And also final proof that Newtown is no longer cool
45:51
Speaker 5: to freud jump the shark.
45:53
Speaker 2: Imagine paying that money to have a property in Newtown
45:57
Speaker 2: like it's if I was going to pay upwards of
46:00
Speaker 2: a million dollars for a piece of concrete, I can
46:03
Speaker 2: think of much nicer parts of Sydney that I would
46:06
Speaker 2: rather spend.
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Speaker 5: There'll be some wanker who buys some bohemian artist type
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Speaker 5: who's got more Australian Council grants than they know it,
46:16
Speaker 5: and they go because it's going to be such a
46:18
Speaker 5: weird and learn up on grand designs because it's such
46:20
Speaker 5: a Yeah, I have total property is one hundred and
46:25
Speaker 5: ten square meters, so by my calculations, that would make
46:28
Speaker 5: it about four meters by twenty five twenty six twenty
46:32
Speaker 5: seven meters deep, So you could actually get like half
46:36
Speaker 5: an Olympic swimming pool in there, have that roof, and
46:39
Speaker 5: I could be the designer.
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Speaker 2: Maybe then you can put a baby crock in it
46:41
Speaker 2: from the Northern Territory. Now, the work these sign language
46:46
Speaker 2: interpreters do during press conferences sometimes is quite amazing, but
46:51
Speaker 2: no better than this on the BBC the other day,
46:54
Speaker 2: when the King was heckled about his brother's links to
46:57
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein.
46:58
Speaker 8: Take a look as of whales.
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Speaker 4: Are in Saudi Arabia.
47:01
Speaker 17: The king is meeting the public in Lancashire. The affair
47:08
Speaker 17: continues to cast a cloud over official engagements.
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Speaker 8: Nick Johnson think he's the news.
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Speaker 2: I just love how animated he was really conveying. You know,
47:23
Speaker 2: I love it, and I sometimes thought maybe I should
47:26
Speaker 2: learn to do it because it looks like a lot
47:28
Speaker 2: of fun to be perfectly honest.
47:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think I think I actually know what
47:31
Speaker 5: the heckler said.
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Speaker 4: I think that head motion gave a few things away.
47:37
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, on the continent, did you know the Italian Job
47:41
Speaker 5: not a Hollywood blockbuster film, but an actual documentary. Yes,
47:46
Speaker 5: it turns out that some Italians have jobs, and not
47:50
Speaker 5: just legal ones either, but illegal ones. Because armed robbers
47:54
Speaker 5: pretending to be police blew up a security van on
47:59
Speaker 5: a motorway in Italy.
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Speaker 4: Have a look.
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Speaker 5: I mean, that is a sort of high end organized
48:15
Speaker 5: crime you just don't see much of these days, Like
48:18
Speaker 5: they really put their effort in. I'm not saying I
48:20
Speaker 5: support 's impersonating and blowing up vans.
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Speaker 4: You have to admire the dedication.
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Speaker 7: I'm kind of happy for that one to say in
48:27
Speaker 7: Italy to be perfectly honest, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And how do you think you're going to get away
48:31
Speaker 2: with that very good blood Evan while pretending to be
48:35
Speaker 2: a copper as if you were.
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Speaker 1: What's an escape already? Thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 1: us tonight. That's all we have time for.
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Speaker 4: Goodn