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418 | CCPT Mythbusters: You'll Eventually Be 100% Adherent to the Model · Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy

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  You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks,
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  your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.
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  Hi,
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  I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
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  The Kid Counselor.
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  This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get
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  a master class in child-centered play therapy
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  and practical support and application for your
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  work with children and their families.
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  Today's episode,
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  we made it,
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  y'all.
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  Long time coming.
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  We are closing out the MythBuster series.
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  I think this has been such a fun series and I've really enjoyed the feedback.
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  I'm so thrilled to see all the downloads.
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  Like I said last time,
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  this is the most popular series we've ever had.
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  So,
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  I'm really grateful for that.
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  It could just be that the podcast audience is growing as well,
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  but I'm glad that you all have found these helpful,
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  and I know that some of you have emailed me and talked about stuff.
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  So,
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  grateful that we were able to do this.
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  We used to watch MythBusters with our son,
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  so that was kind of the,
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  the start of the idea.
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  And I think this has been really helpful,
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  especially since CCPT is so misunderstood,
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  and there are so many things that people perceive that are incorrect
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  and that are not founded in truth.
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  So,
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  worth talking about it for sure.
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  So,
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  to close out the series,
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  we're going to bust the myth
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  that you will eventually be 100% adherent.
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  And
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  I know that may be a little defeating.
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  I promise it's not though.
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  We have to talk through
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  the fact that
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  there are several components to adherence,
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  and I want to make sure we address those.
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  But at the end of the day,
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  even if you bust your butt the rest of your life,
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  you will never be fully 100% adherent 100% of the time.
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  So,
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  very important to
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  kind of put things in perspective and have appropriate goals and expectations.
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  I'm looking forward to talking through that
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  really quickly.
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  For those of you that might have been waiting for
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  enrollment in the Play Therapy Professional program to open up,
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  enrollment is open to the public as of today.
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  And so,
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  if you are interested in the next cohort,
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  it will be on Mondays at 12:00 Eastern
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  starting August 17th.
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  So,
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  just about a month from now.
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  If you want to schedule a discovery call with me,
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  which is the first step,
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  go to playtherapycoaching.com
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  and that'll be in the show notes if you don't have a pen or whatever,
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  but playtherapycoaching.com,
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  you can schedule a discovery call.
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  Enrollment is open for that next group.
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  I think we have a couple of spots left.
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  So,
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  if you're interested and you've been waiting,
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  just wanted to make y'all aware of that.
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  OK.
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  So,
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  let's talk through adherence because
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  That's one of the things that we're striving for,
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  always.
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  We're working to make sure that we have fidelity and adherence to the model
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  and therefore we're not deviating.
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  I don't think that's possible unless we understand the why behind the skills.
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  That's
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  very much
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  at the heart of what I'm going to be talking about
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  in Indiana and New Jersey the next next couple of months,
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  because
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  if you don't understand the why behind the skills,
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  it's harder to execute the skills with purpose,
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  and it's harder to
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  stay faithful because
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  it just seems like a list of skills that you're supposed to do and if you don't,
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  oh well.
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  There's so much more
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  to CCPT than that.
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  The spirit of it,
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  the philosophy of it,
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  the tenets,
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  they all matter.
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  And so
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  we want adherence,
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  yes,
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  but there's a couple of components that I think we sometimes forget or they get lost.
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  Just because you do this a really long time.
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  And you really want to be fully CCPT.
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  It doesn't mean that you're going to eventually just arrive at 100% adherence.
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  We do not ever.
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  Get better at something haphazardly.
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  We don't ever master something
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  by
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  rote practice.
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  We don't ever just rehearse something long enough and everything falls into place.
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  Those are
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  components,
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  sure,
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  but that's not how we get to adherence.
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  Adherence is a willful
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  second by second decision
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  grounded
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  in the rationale
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  for the why of CCPT.
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  Understanding what CCPT is all about and what the child is going to gain,
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  it is a second by second,
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  every single moment decision.
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  That we're working toward adherence
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  and we refuse to do anything other
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  than what the model.
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  Has us do.
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  There is no coincidental mastery.
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  There is no if I do this long enough
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  or if I have enough sessions or if I read enough books,
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  I'm going to eventually figure this out and be adherent.
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  That's impossible.
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  That's like saying you want to play a professional sport,
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  and as long as you go and
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  practice every single day,
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  you're going to be a professional athlete.
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  That's not how it works.
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  There is so much more to the story,
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  so that is a myth 100%.
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  A lot of therapists tell me,
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  Well,
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  I just don't have enough experience yet.
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  I just don't have enough clients that are kids yet.
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  I don't have enough hours in the playroom yet.
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  I don't have enough knowledge of the model yet.
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  All of those are important.
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  But that doesn't
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  beget
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  adherence.
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  Adherence is deeply understanding
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  every moment
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  in the playroom and understanding that every moment has
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  a decision that we make tied to it.
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  And then the second part of the adherence myth that I want to bust
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  is that
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  Even when
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  you
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  make those moment by moment decisions and even when you deeply understand the why,
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  and even when all of those things line up for you,
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  you have
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  the 10,000 hours and you have all the experience
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  and all the training and you've surrounded yourself by community
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  and you've been coached appropriately
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  and you've perfectly practiced instead of just practiced.
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  I know I've said that several times,
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  but y'all,
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  please
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  don't lose sight of that.
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  You can
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  practice incorrectly
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  and it does not make you better.
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  You can run limits 1000 times,
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  and if you're not setting them adherently,
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  it's not helping you one bit.
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  In fact,
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  it's hindering you
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  because then it becomes muscle memory to execute limits poorly.
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  Perfect practice.
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  is what we're looking for.
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  We're going to practice this until we get it,
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  until it's executed flawlessly every single time.
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  Even under pressure,
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  that's when we know we're at
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  a higher level of mastery and we're,
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  we're up the summit framework more.
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  But that said,
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  we have all of that at some point in our lives.
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  Ideally,
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  hopefully,
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  Lord willing,
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  and the creek don't rise,
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  and then
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  we still go,
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  oh man,
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  I totally botched that today.
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  This is
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  JB this is for you.
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  This is my CCPT confession.
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  I actually said the word perfect in a playroom
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  not too long ago.
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  I actually showed it in the Collective,
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  and one of my graduates called me out on it.
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  She was like,
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  I'm so glad to see that you make mistakes too.
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  And I didn't use it as praise.
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  Like I didn't say,
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  Oh,
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  you,
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  you did that perfectly.
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  It wasn't that kind of
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  value laden word.
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  But the kid was like,
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  You're going to do this and I'm going to do this,
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  and this is going to do this,
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  and we're going to,
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  and it was kind of like dictating the whole thing.
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  And I said,
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  OK,
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  perfect.
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  And it was more like a,
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  got it,
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  I understand kind of phrase,
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  but it popped out of my mouth and as soon as I said it,
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  I was like,
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  Brenna,
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  Michelle,
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  what are you doing right now?
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  Oh my word.
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  I've been doing this 21 years.
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  I have more than 20,000 hours in a playroom.
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  And I coach and I teach and I train and I understand this like the back of my hand.
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  And there is always room for growth,
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  and there are always moments
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  where you're going to go,
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  huh,
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  that is not what I wanted to happen,
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  or
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  I did not mean for that to come out of my mouth,
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  or what the heck was that?
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  That was a little bit of a disaster.
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  I don't care how long you do this.
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  I don't care how much you devote to it.
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  I don't care
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  if
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  the stars align and every single thing is perfect.
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  There's my word again.
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  You are still going to have moments where you're tired
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  or you're stressed
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  or you're emotional
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  or you're overwhelmed or you're uncomfortable
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  or fill in the blank adjective.
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  And
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  something's going to go a little bit awry in your session.
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  Not because the child is doing anything,
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  because you
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  fail full adherence.
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  We can't hold ourselves to that standard.
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  There is no expectation.
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  That we're going to be 100% here and 100% of the time.
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  It's not possible.
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  As much as we try,
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  we're humans
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  and we're flawed
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  and we're imperfect,
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  and that's OK
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  because the relationship is always more important anyway.
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  So as much as we talk about fidelity and adherence and how important it is,
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  and that is 100% true.
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  We have to be focused on those things because
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  they're necessary.
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  We should not,
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  here,
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  here's my soapbox moment for like 30 seconds.
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  We should not tolerate
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  or accept.
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  Wishy-washy CCPT.
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  We should not tolerate or accept
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  not doing everything you can.
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  To get to a point where you are adherent
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  and that you are faithful to the model.
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  If we don't care about fidelity and adherence,
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  we have no empirical support for what we're doing.
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  Y'all,
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  I,
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  I've said this 5000 times and I'm going to say it 50,000 more.
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  If you add anything or take anything away
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  or deviate,
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  you no longer know if it's going to work.
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  There is such simplicity
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  in the notion of a theoretical orientation
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  and that you have to be adherent to the theoretical orientation.
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  So,
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  as much as that is
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  so important,
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  crucial really
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  to the whole process.
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  We can't expect ourselves to do it flawlessly every single time.
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  But those mistakes that we make and those moments where we're like,
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  hm,
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  that limit didn't come out very
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  helpfully,
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  or,
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  oh,
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  that really wasn't a choice.
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  I didn't even use the word choose three times,
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  or,
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  oh,
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  I forgot to reflect a feeling there,
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  whatever it is.
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  We know that the relationship is more important
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  than the skills or the lack thereof.
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  And therefore,
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  we're busting the myth that
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  if we just keep doing this long enough,
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  you'll eventually be 100% adherent.
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  You'll never be 100% adherent,
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  number 1.
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  Number 2,
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  it certainly doesn't happen by chance.
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  So we work as hard as we can to get there
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  and then we know that we're never going to fully arrive.
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  Two myths busted,
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  one fell swoop.
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  I love it.
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  So,
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  thanks so much for hanging out with me for this series.
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  I've really enjoyed it.
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  We're going to transition into
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  a couple of
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  new
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  concepts that kind of all work together really helpfully.
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  So,
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  I think we're gonna have 5 or 6 weeks of kind of stand-alone concepts,
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  but they're all going to be kind of part of a bigger whole.
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  So,
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  looking forward to that.
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  And there's so much going on,
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  y'all.
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  So,
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  if you're new,
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  welcome.
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  Really,
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  really glad you're here.
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  This is
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  an extraordinary group of CCPTs that love kids and love this model.
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  You will feel right at home if you are in the same boat.
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  So really glad to have you.
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  Check the show notes,
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  y'all.
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  We've got meetups,
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  we've got podcasts.
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  The New Jersey meetup is a go.
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  So we are doing a podcast meetup on
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  Sunday,
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  October 18th
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  after the event.
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  So if you are within driving distance of New Jersey,
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  come hang out then.
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  We've got Seattle and Denver.
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  We've got events in Indiana and New Jersey and Florida.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Just,
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  just come hang out with me wherever you happen to be and you can get to.
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  That's the moral of that story.
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  I love y'all.
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  Have a great week.
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  We'll talk again soon.
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  Bye.
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  Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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  For more episodes and resources,
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  please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.