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Ep. 937: Foundations - Why Solo Whitetail Hunts Will Always Help You Kill More Big Bucks · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your
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Speaker 2: host with Tony Peterson, and in today's episode is all
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Speaker 2: about the social aspect of deer hunting and why that
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Speaker 2: can be detrimental to your hunting success. Absolute before I
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Speaker 2: this week at the Mediator dot com. All Right, this
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Speaker 2: is kind of a weird episode, but it's also a
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Speaker 2: good preseason reminder of the things that can slip into
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Speaker 2: our deer hunting world that hurt us when we generally
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Speaker 2: view them as a neutral or positive thing. While having
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Speaker 2: hunting buddies and relatives involved in your hunting can certainly
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Speaker 2: elevate the experience, and no one would deny that the
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Speaker 2: deer camp culture isn't without its merits, the same thing
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Speaker 2: can cause us some damage that we might not understand
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Speaker 2: until it's too late, or we might understand at all.
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Speaker 2: Now that's no bueno, and it's what I'm going to
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Speaker 2: talk about right now. Humans are social critters. We just are.
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Speaker 2: We evolved in small groups and have depended on one
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Speaker 2: another for safety for a long long time, I think
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of years. Here. It served us well
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Speaker 2: enough to take over a dang near the whole world already,
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Speaker 2: but it also can be used against us right now
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Speaker 2: in the form of algorithms, rage bait, just a general
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Speaker 2: understanding of our psyche that can be monetized thanks to
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Speaker 2: our attention spans modern turmoil. Aside, we generally need contact
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Speaker 2: with others and we need shared experiences. This is one
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Speaker 2: of the reasons that one of the worst punishments we
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Speaker 2: can dule out to one another is not only prison,
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Speaker 2: but solitary confinement in prison. One fella who learned this
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Speaker 2: lesson in a way that very few have is named
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Speaker 2: Tommy Silverstein, who was sent to jail for armed robbery
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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven. After a lifetime of committing violent
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Speaker 2: crimes on the inside, he managed to kill two inmates
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Speaker 2: and eventually a prison guard. This behavior earned him a
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Speaker 2: no human contact status, which meant that he spent eighteen
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Speaker 2: years in elevenworth solitary confinement. When he was moved to
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Speaker 2: a supermax prison in Colorado, his punishment continued and he
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Speaker 2: spent twenty three hours a day day and a soundproof cell,
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Speaker 2: with his one hour a day outside of that cell
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Speaker 2: spent in a slightly larger cell but with no contact
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Speaker 2: with humans. So all in all, he spent thirty six
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Speaker 2: years in solitary confinement, which isn't even the record that's
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Speaker 2: held by a guy named Herman Wallace, who spent forty
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Speaker 2: one years in solitary and died three days after his
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Speaker 2: release in nineteen seventy one, which had to be a
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Speaker 2: real bummer. While you can argue all day long on
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Speaker 2: that type of punishment and whether it's justified, some folks
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Speaker 2: just prefer being alone. Most of you have probably heard
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Speaker 2: of Christopher Knight, the dude in Maine who just up
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Speaker 2: and walked into the woods one day and never looked back.
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Speaker 2: Knight admitted he only spoke to one person in twenty
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Speaker 2: seven years, and that was just a casual greeting with
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Speaker 2: a hiker on a trail. Knight built himself a nice
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Speaker 2: little camp with stuff he stole from vacation cabins and
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Speaker 2: spent his free time playing Game Boy and getting hammered
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Speaker 2: on Pilford liquor. Imagine spending twenty seven winters in Maine
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Speaker 2: in a ten with your only option to have anything,
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Speaker 2: to steal whatever you could to survive. Humans are pretty wild,
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Speaker 2: but generally we just need each other. This is evident
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Speaker 2: in the hunting community in a million different ways. This
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Speaker 2: never going to end public land fight that raged recently
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Speaker 2: is a good example. While we are a small minority
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Speaker 2: in this country. We made a lot of noise and
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Speaker 2: that's what got results. We have a history of hunting
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Speaker 2: together which could be traced way way back to the
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Speaker 2: point where we set out in small bands across the
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Speaker 2: Bearing land mass to encounter short face bears and a
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Speaker 2: host of other megafauna that certainly took deference to our presence. Hell,
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Speaker 2: you could go a lot further back than that, but
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Speaker 2: instead let's go back maybe sixty years. The history of
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Speaker 2: the white tail is one that has seen its ebbs
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Speaker 2: and flows, but modern deer hunting has its roots pretty
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Speaker 2: firmly dug in around the nineteen fifties and sixties in
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Speaker 2: many states. Back then, the US didn't have a lot
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Speaker 2: of deer, and the primary hunting methods were either to
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Speaker 2: get them moving with dogs or get them moving with people.
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Speaker 2: I remember my dad telling me that he got pretty
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Speaker 2: into bow hunting after returning home from Vietnam in the
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Speaker 2: late nineteen sixties, and he said that at one point
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Speaker 2: he saw four deer while he was hunting, and it
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Speaker 2: was like seeing four sasquatches ride in the backs of
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Speaker 2: four unicorns. Well he didn't say it exactly like that,
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Speaker 2: but you get the gist. When I started hunting in
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two, we had more deer than they did
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Speaker 2: thirty years before that, but it was nothing like today.
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Speaker 2: Seeing a deer wall hunting was a big win for us,
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Speaker 2: and we mostly didn't see anything on any given sit.
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Speaker 2: We also hunted with a group of guys that were
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Speaker 2: all friends with my dad, and while they were all
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Speaker 2: bow hunters, it was still very much like a traditional
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Speaker 2: hunting camp that you would more likely find in the
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Speaker 2: gun hunting crowd. It wasn't the same as you know,
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Speaker 2: the hunting camps in the north Woods, or the groups
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Speaker 2: of hunters who got together every year to put together
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Speaker 2: drives for a few days and fill each other's tags
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Speaker 2: whenever they could, but you know, kind of similar in
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Speaker 2: a way. Now. If you were to think of modern
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Speaker 2: deer hunting in terms of you know, breeding retrievers for
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Speaker 2: all kinds of upland waterfall hunting, you'd say that our
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Speaker 2: lineage as hunters is one that places a high value
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Speaker 2: on being social around deer hunting. We were bred for
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Speaker 2: it and exposed to it in our environment. We lean
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Speaker 2: into it and it can be an amazing tradition and
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Speaker 2: an amazing experience or it can be a total train wreck.
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Speaker 2: In the last maybe fifteen years or so, we've seen
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Speaker 2: a huge shift from large groups of hunters valuing the
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Speaker 2: social side above everything else to fracture groups looking to
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Speaker 2: produce the best possible chances to kill giants. Now that's
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Speaker 2: a generality, of course, but that doesn't make it totally wrong.
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Speaker 2: The old guard might suggest that we are losing our identity,
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Speaker 2: as one northern Wisconsin farmer told me a few years ago,
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Speaker 2: when he looked me right in the eyes and said, you,
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Speaker 2: young guys have no idea how to hunt deer. You
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Speaker 2: need to get out and get them moving. You can't
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Speaker 2: just sit and wait for them, because you'll never kill them. Now,
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Speaker 2: I just nodded in agreement and kept on hunting doves with
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Speaker 2: my pupp I know what else to say. Here's the
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Speaker 2: thing about the social aspect of deer hunting. It can
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Speaker 2: be awesome or it can totally pull you under. The
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Speaker 2: latter is what you want to avoid, obviously, and it
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Speaker 2: all stems generally from ego and greed. So I guess
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Speaker 2: it's not so much keeping company with other hunters, but
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Speaker 2: exactly what other hunters you tend to keep company with.
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Speaker 2: I have a small group of buddies who I'll share
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Speaker 2: a camp with at any point, and if I think
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Speaker 2: about what they have in common with me, it's that
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Speaker 2: they are all at a place with hunting where they
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Speaker 2: don't care if someone else kills a good one or
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Speaker 2: a dink or whatever. They are confident enough in their
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Speaker 2: own skills that one will walk by them so much
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Speaker 2: so at least that they don't view it as something
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Speaker 2: being taken from them or a reflection on them if
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Speaker 2: someone else kills something where they hunt, or even not
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Speaker 2: where they hunt. I have a long list of friends
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Speaker 2: who I won't hunt with anymore, and that doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: they aren't good people and good buddies, but they have
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Speaker 2: different priorities than I do in the woods, we just
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Speaker 2: don't match well. And there's nothing worse than someone who
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Speaker 2: takes it a bit too seriously and will hide trail
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Speaker 2: camera photos or sightings or not talk about their encounters
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Speaker 2: or missus or whatever. That kind of behavior is poisonous
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Speaker 2: and it can make the whole group sick without anyone
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Speaker 2: really pinning down what's going on. When my dad met
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Speaker 2: up with that group of buddies I mentioned in the
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Speaker 2: beginning of this episode, I wasn't quite old enough to hunt.
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Speaker 2: I did get there while he was still hunting with
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Speaker 2: those guys. My first experience of that group dynamic was weird.
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Speaker 2: There was one fellaw who had a cabin there that
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Speaker 2: a lot of us stayed at from time to time,
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Speaker 2: so he kind of became the default leader. He was
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Speaker 2: also a one eyed lunatic who, despite being very short
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Speaker 2: and very around, felt like he was the toughest dude
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Speaker 2: on the continent, probably because he never had to prove it.
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Speaker 2: He also was dead set against shooting doze. He wouldn't
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Speaker 2: allow it, and that was rough for a twelve year
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Speaker 2: old who just wanted to shoot his first dear let
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Speaker 2: alone my dad and the rest of the dudes in
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Speaker 2: that crew. So that group of guys hunted only bucks,
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Speaker 2: and they shot generally one year old basket racks. The antlers,
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Speaker 2: regardless of size, were a big status symbol. But it
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Speaker 2: just created a weird dynamic because killing a young buck
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Speaker 2: then wasn't that easy either, because there just weren't that
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Speaker 2: many deer around, and then we weren't that good at it.
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Speaker 2: Literally everyone in the group wanted to be free to
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Speaker 2: fill their tags as they could, but no one felt
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Speaker 2: good enough about it to color outside the lines and
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Speaker 2: see what happened if they did shoot it. Dope, it
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Speaker 2: wasn't fun. We still do this today, we just do
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Speaker 2: it on Instagram, and it isn't fun. And what's worse
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Speaker 2: is that we often feel compelled to hunt with people
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Speaker 2: due to tradition or whatever. But just hunting with other
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Speaker 2: people generally makes our own path less productive, or at
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Speaker 2: least it really can't. Now I don't mean to say
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Speaker 2: that's always the case. I have one good buddy named Eric,
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Speaker 2: who I talk about a lot on here, and who
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Speaker 2: I've hunted with for a long time, and when we
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Speaker 2: work together these days on the deer, deer usually died,
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Speaker 2: and if they don't, we have a pretty good time
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Speaker 2: trying to make them die. Anyway, But there is something
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Speaker 2: to be said about the solo endeavor, and it's one
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Speaker 2: of the reasons that I'm such an advocate for expanding
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Speaker 2: and hunting opportunities in any way possible. If you have
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Speaker 2: a lease with a couple of buddies, for example, that's great,
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Speaker 2: but you'll probably never leave that lease to go hunt
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Speaker 2: public land down the road. You should, though, because when
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Speaker 2: you free yourself from whatever rules are established on the
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Speaker 2: lease ground, you free yourself to try new things. You'll
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Speaker 2: free yourself from whatever pressure comes with that shared social hunt,
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Speaker 2: and that is important. I've talked about this before on
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Speaker 2: this podcast and on my Dog Focused Houndation's podcast that's
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Speaker 2: over on the Cattle the Wild Feed. But the best
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Speaker 2: thing you can do to develop a young bird dog
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Speaker 2: is to hunt solo. I believe that with all my heart,
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Speaker 2: even though a lot of folks still believe that hunting
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Speaker 2: a young dog with an old one is the way
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Speaker 2: to go. The old dogs don't take young dogs under
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Speaker 2: their wings to explain where pheasants hide or grouse like defeat.
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Speaker 2: They just don't. And another dog in the mix can
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Speaker 2: create competition and usually does, just as other hunters in
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Speaker 2: the mix and other hunters with dogs can as well.
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Speaker 2: The pace of a solo hunt, where the dog is
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Speaker 2: to figure things out without the pressure of keeping up
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Speaker 2: with anyone else, matters so much helps everyone relax. Dog
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Speaker 2: and hunter slow down, which means you'll get into more
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Speaker 2: birds and take better shots. That leads to the dog
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Speaker 2: having more bird contact and generally getting to figure out
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Speaker 2: the wounded and dead bird thing more often, again without
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Speaker 2: the pressure of maybe losing their feathered prize to some
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Speaker 2: canine competition and pressure. It's kind of everything. Well it's not,
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Speaker 2: but most of us put a fair amount of pressure
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Speaker 2: on ourselves to be successful in the deer woods, and
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Speaker 2: then when we allow others and their views on the
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Speaker 2: whole thing into our smooth brains, it gets way more complicated.
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Speaker 2: We've all seen the news stories about the dudes who
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Speaker 2: have killed giants, and then we're found out to be poachers.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's the same old story, and it's just
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Speaker 2: greed and ego manifested in its worst forms. But that
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Speaker 2: trickles down too. While your hunting buddies might not shoot
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Speaker 2: one over a spotlight at night in the wrong state
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Speaker 2: because it's a two hundred inch er and the temptation
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Speaker 2: is too great, what about hiding trail camera photos or
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Speaker 2: info on sightings are signed. There's a lot of ways
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Speaker 2: this stuff can go, and it doesn't even have to
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Speaker 2: be some shady shit like that. What if you just
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Speaker 2: really aren't very good at this stuff yet, but you
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Speaker 2: hang with some folks who are. Their success will bleed
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Speaker 2: into your mindset and so you might learn a lot
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Speaker 2: from them. But you might also be at the stage
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Speaker 2: where whacking a two year old on opening day would
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Speaker 2: make you real happy. But your buddies are going to
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Speaker 2: hold up for one forties because that's where they're at
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Speaker 2: and their journey. The company we keep influences our decisions,
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Speaker 2: not always in a good way. I realize something recently
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Speaker 2: while dealing with a landowner who I hunt with, who
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Speaker 2: by all accounts, doesn't have an impressive deer hunting resume.
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Speaker 2: I'm super grateful to hunt his place, and I happily
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Speaker 2: provide stands and blinds in general direction for how the
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Speaker 2: whole thing should go. But that comes with some extra bs,
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Speaker 2: as permission based hunting usually does. And it's just a
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Speaker 2: different hunt altogether from some of my solo adventures to
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Speaker 2: public land somewhere else. And while we generally get stuck
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Speaker 2: in the mindset that private land always beats public land,
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Speaker 2: we don't factor in the freedom of making all of
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Speaker 2: our own decisions and doing our own thing at our
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Speaker 2: own pace without any arbitrary rules created by someone else,
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Speaker 2: you know, hunting regulations aside. Of course, now I won't
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Speaker 2: turn down the chance to hunt that property because it's
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Speaker 2: both convenient and well. I like hunting anywhere I can
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Speaker 2: but there's an aspect of having just one other hunter
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Speaker 2: in the mix, especially one who controls the land, where
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Speaker 2: the whole thing takes on a different flavor look. It's
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Speaker 2: part of the game, but also makes me appreciate driving
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Speaker 2: across the river and walking into thousands of acres of
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Speaker 2: public land in northern Wisconsin, even if the deer population
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Speaker 2: there is much lower and the hunting is generally way tougher.
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Speaker 2: There's more to this stuff than finding easy and convenient,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of time times our social hunts are
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Speaker 2: not all that easy or convenient, at least not as
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Speaker 2: easy and convenient as we'd like them to be. I
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Speaker 2: also think that we aren't meant to be as busy
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Speaker 2: as we are generally in life, and that we are
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Speaker 2: experiencing low grade burnout from work and life, in the kids' sports,
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Speaker 2: and just generally having so much shit to do. Hunting
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Speaker 2: is supposed to be an escape from that stuff, but
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Speaker 2: the more people who become involved in it, the more
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Speaker 2: it resembles the parts of life we are trying to escape.
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Speaker 2: Here's the crux to the whole thing, and something I've
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Speaker 2: realized has been a huge benefit to my success in
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Speaker 2: the field. If I don't have a lot of thoughts
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Speaker 2: bumping around in my brain about other people and what
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Speaker 2: they are doing or thinking. I generally hunt more relaxed.
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Speaker 2: I generally hunt in a way that allows me to
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Speaker 2: follow a process that I truly enjoy, and that generally
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Speaker 2: means that I get more shot opportunities. Going solo has
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Speaker 2: made me a better hunter without question seeking out opportunities
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Speaker 2: whereas just me versus the deer, even on public land
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Speaker 2: where other hunters definitely factor in, has kept my freezers
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Speaker 2: pretty full and made a hunting much more enjoyable. Now,
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Speaker 2: that might not be your jam, or you may not
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Speaker 2: have ever actually sought that out. A lot of us don't,
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Speaker 2: because we get into hunting through someone else. Maybe we
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Speaker 2: are born into a traditional rifle camp, or maybe you
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Speaker 2: marry into it, or maybe a friend offers you an
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Speaker 2: invite to a property that you can bow hunt with
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Speaker 2: him in a handful of other folks. Whatever. A lot
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Speaker 2: of us have that type of thing as our primary
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Speaker 2: conduit to time in the deer woods. And it's great
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Speaker 2: and you might not ever need anymore, or you might
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Speaker 2: find yourself wishing you could shoot what you want or
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Speaker 2: hunt whenever you damn well feel like it. You might
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Speaker 2: just find that you spend more time thinking about where
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Speaker 2: someone else might sit or how they might mess up
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Speaker 2: your deer patterns, and just realize that you need a
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Speaker 2: reprieve to do your own thing. I'm not saying you
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Speaker 2: need to put yourself in the equivalent of deer hunting
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Speaker 2: solitary confinement, but at least consider your sphere of influence
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Speaker 2: when it comes to this part of your life. Is
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Speaker 2: your hunting always impacted by someone else? Because if so,
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Speaker 2: you just might want to seek out a solo opportunity somehow.
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Speaker 2: I know that doesn't sound easy to a lot of
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Speaker 2: us and might not sound productive because it'll take place
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Speaker 2: on new land somewhere, but that's the wrong way to
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Speaker 2: look at it. Freeing yourself from the influence of others
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Speaker 2: to just do your own thing will change how you
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Speaker 2: look at deer hunting. It might not make the hunting
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Speaker 2: seem any easier at the start, but it will make
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Speaker 2: you better at hunting, and that eventually makes all of
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Speaker 2: it seem a little bit easier. It'll also help you
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Speaker 2: find your lane as a hunter just a little bit better,
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Speaker 2: which might mean that you're actually pretty content to still
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Speaker 2: hunt around and try to arrow one, even though that
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Speaker 2: would be severely frowned upon on the least that you
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Speaker 2: share with your buddies. Or maybe it'll allow you to
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Speaker 2: hunt late September or early October as hard as you
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Speaker 2: please without the nagging feeling that you're supposed to leave
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Speaker 2: the deer alone until the pre rut, which is a
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Speaker 2: common belief that works for killing deer, but also robs
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Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of us of time in
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Speaker 2: the woods, which isn't so great sometimes, So at least
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Speaker 2: consider it as we enter the immediate preseason now with
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Speaker 2: all of the target practice and stand hanging and camera
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Speaker 2: work that we have going on, and come back next
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Speaker 2: week because I'm going to talk about a few new
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Speaker 2: experiences I've had with deer recently that have forced me
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Speaker 2: to think about how wrong I often am about deer
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Speaker 2: and what that means for me as a hunter, and
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Speaker 2: what it'll mean for you too. That's it for this week.
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