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Club 520 - Spencer Dinwiddie & Jeff Teague on Luka Doncic-Anthony Davis trade, playing with LeBron · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man, we're back at the episode of Club
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  Speaker 2: five to twenty Podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the host.
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  Speaker 2: My name is DJ Well Special special guests in the building.
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  Speaker 2: that man. Yeah, for sure, Man, but last certain at
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  Speaker 2: LA's finest, one of the biggest plays, a big contract history.
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  Speaker 2: little bit Man for shure l A's finest Man. First
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  Speaker 3: Man. You know Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: How's it feel being alumni in Colorado and y'all turned
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  Speaker 1: up for football like that?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Oh no, that it was hard. Yeah, it brought
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  Speaker 3: life to the city.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't expect it because when I was there they
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  Speaker 1: won like two games in a year like awful damn.
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  Speaker 4: For a long time. What year you come out of
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  Speaker 4: there or go Thered you go.
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  Speaker 1: Went there in twenty eleven. Okay, left for fourteen, so
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah they was cool. Yeah they was they won
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  Speaker 1: two games. Hell right before then I got the.
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  Speaker 3: Lin was a little bit dirty.
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  Speaker 2: So but I couldn't imagine you was killing on campus
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  Speaker 2: and that was come the same time. That's the hell
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  Speaker 2: of the type of recruitment to pull up there.
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  Speaker 3: No, we was, uh we were the team like on
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  Speaker 3: campus and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So like when I was there, it was basketball schools crazy?
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  Speaker 3: What made you choose Colorado?
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  Speaker 1: I mean basically like I want to go to Pac
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  Speaker 1: twelve because I really want to go to USC, but
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  Speaker 1: they ain't offered me, so U c.
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  Speaker 3: L A was kind of like I would just take you.
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  Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I didn't want to go to Harvard
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  Speaker 1: because of basketball.
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  Speaker 3: So okay, what happened? Who else was recruiting you from LA? Right?
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  Speaker 2: You're like we talk about high school, I like historic
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  Speaker 2: high school place the killers in high school?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean Larry Drew went to my
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  Speaker 1: high school, McDonald's Americans, Larry Drew. I mean obviously you
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  Speaker 1: played all the guys Drew, Tomorrow, BJ, Brandon, Jenny's Sorry's Brandon.
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  Speaker 4: How would be j But you take a high school
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  Speaker 4: b J high school.
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  Speaker 3: J was nice, nice, okay, yeah, respect. I don't know, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I think you tell you what the killer that.
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  Speaker 4: I know I was talking about earlier to them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe DeAndre Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah I was.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't remember his name, but I'm like, I remember.
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  Speaker 3: He was Brice Jones went to the Pelicans.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, bro in high school, like he went crazy in
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  Speaker 5: au Bro. I think he was like a top ten
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  Speaker 5: player in the country something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what that is. On our team, the
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  Speaker 3: three of us, he was the best one, no.
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  Speaker 5: For sure, because he was like what six five he
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  Speaker 5: was bigger than that, like six nine. Yeah, I remember
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  Speaker 5: that he was cold.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in high school. He playing a big three
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  Speaker 3: last year. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm bro
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  Speaker 3: Beindre Dan. It's like a Christian Wood kind of you know.
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  Speaker 3: I got I got looking at would man.
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  Speaker 5: I just remember he used to go on the au circuit.
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  Speaker 5: He was he made a name for himself. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: look for show for sure.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Man, having that much out of high school, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, y'all was definitely getting the looks. But he
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  Speaker 2: said you wanted to stay in the Pac twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not like so, I had like most of
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  Speaker 1: the Pack twelve offers, most of the California school offers,
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  Speaker 1: but I really want to go to USC. That's like
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  Speaker 1: when my mom my brother went and all that, and
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  Speaker 1: they only wanted to offer me.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It is crazy how it works. Because they were asked
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  Speaker 1: to good that was a good one. I get off
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  Speaker 1: from the good school and not off from the basketball.
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  Speaker 1: That don't make no sense. Oh, they probably just taking
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  Speaker 1: it because what year was tomorrow? It was gone, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It is gone.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm just thinking like the guys that came after that,
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  Speaker 6: and I can't think of nobody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, because was going. Yeah, that's tough.
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  Speaker 3: That's tough.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who else was cold at that time?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 4: In high school too? Was anybody else getting recruited.
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  Speaker 3: Over Marcus is cold? Shout to move your Marcus class
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  Speaker 3: level like one fiftieth in their class.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, and Davis gil Chris Marcus, Austin Rivers.
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  Speaker 3: That's the hell. That's one of the best. Under saying
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  Speaker 3: who who else is out west? That was all that's
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  Speaker 3: on our side.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, Carson was out West. He went state right, Yeah, Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: Jabari Brown, Oregon?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, uh why didn't you go to Oregon?
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  Speaker 3: They what you basically? Organ? Yeah, dude, it's nice play
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  Speaker 3: for Oaken Soldiers.
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  Speaker 6: I know you're talking about. I had Brad Bill in
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  Speaker 6: that class. I go to autumn A games. Who'd you
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  Speaker 6: play you for?
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  Speaker 3: Pumping run pumping roun?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, program when they had Lopez twins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who is the school? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Two?
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  Speaker 1: Damn for the tickets or whatever, like oh wow, damn
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  Speaker 1: eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Some of that say, thirty game still chilling. The game
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  Speaker 3: is the game. It's a wicked game. Got it?
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  Speaker 6: Since we talk about college, you know, coming out of
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  Speaker 6: l a kid, what you think your n I L
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  Speaker 6: would have been going to next school?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think you would have got?
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  Speaker 1: Uh my, I don't think my n I L would
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  Speaker 1: have been crazy going to Colorado sophomore in Colorada though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think the freshman year?
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  Speaker 6: Do you think you would have transferred after your freshman
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  Speaker 6: year because you had a good freshman year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends on the bag that nigga would have
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  Speaker 1: went to USC Like, so I was like runner up
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  Speaker 1: to Tony Rowden coach. Yeah, he had much better so
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  Speaker 1: he deserved it. But uh yeah, I mean they were
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  Speaker 1: selling my jersey. They were selling like mustache gigs. I
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  Speaker 1: had to go to you at the time, that little
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  Speaker 1: kid and they said the mustache you're in the student
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  Speaker 1: store all types shit, So like, oh, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been.
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  Speaker 6: Stupid, dumb seeing the kid with aj Debnta getting seven
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  Speaker 6: million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: How would that affect you? Like, you know, because you
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  Speaker 6: you you different than most of us, but you you
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  Speaker 6: tapped in cryptocarents all that. I'm just gonna get to that.
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  Speaker 1: But how would that affect you as a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a student athlete. If they would have liked to offer
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  Speaker 1: you seven million dollars, would that affect your mind going
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  Speaker 1: to the league or you'd have been like, shiit seven million,
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  Speaker 1: I'm cool. I think because I wanted to go to
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  Speaker 1: the league, yeah, I'd have been still driven. I think
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  Speaker 1: like that might have changed how I approached like post
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  Speaker 1: injury type vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I might have got hurt, been like you know.
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  Speaker 1: What, Yeah, before that thought had been like nah, like
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  Speaker 1: I still want to go to the league, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: a dream of mine, like you know how the kid
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  Speaker 1: like even when you get some hype or whatever, like
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  Speaker 1: you sold laser focused like yo, like I still want
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  Speaker 1: to go to the league, so like all that shit
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  Speaker 1: don't really matter, so you know, but once you get hurt,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't really working out or whatever. Like my first
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  Speaker 1: two years in the league, just sitting on the bench
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  Speaker 1: watching I might have been like I got ten of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I'm still broke.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's real. That's the fact. Real.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, people don't know. We were just before you came here.
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  Speaker 6: We was talking about your rookie year. Yeah, broke you
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  Speaker 6: And now they tell me my budget was three thousand a.
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  Speaker 3: Month mine, it's probably close to like ten damn no, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about we're not including.
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  Speaker 6: Bills for you just to have probably something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I was like, damn was in Detroit. But
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  Speaker 3: it may have been with money you got renting other
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: stuff you gotta do. Yeah, we were oh no, like
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  Speaker 3: that's just like you know, and buy some extra clothes,
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  Speaker 3: eat what everyone. Yeah iddress. I was wearing Team Geared
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  Speaker 3: in I was running bands then, so it.
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  Speaker 1: Might've been a little bit less than three to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: like I was putting, I was thinking about like you know,
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  Speaker 1: RNT car like any other little stuff do like.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, when I got in the league, my minim.
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  Speaker 1: Was five hundred thousand, so like I was back before
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: inflation and Lebron James got a new TV so that's
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  Speaker 1: getting no money?
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  Speaker 5: Was that your parents are more so you like giving
• 9:41
  Speaker 5: you the game on how to treat your bread?
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  Speaker 3: I mean both.
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  Speaker 1: I mean my parents stressed like saving and stuff, and
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: you know you don't have like real money like that
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: you don't know, so I don't know if they necessarily knew,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: but like you know, it's just about like don't blow it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I was real basic. I mean, this is I've
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: been the whole time. That's how I'm wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: They know who you are. You ain't got shure. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I always feel.
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: But that's true. That's true. Shit.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Obviously, did you think Corado Nigga injured? How's that draft process?
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Like you talked about the mental a little bit. How
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: was that whole entire process and then actually getting to
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  Speaker 2: the EBA Compson your dream?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got hurt with junior or junior year
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: and like all the other stuff. Oh yeah, So basically
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: the draft was just a whole lot of like meetings
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: and watching.
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  Speaker 3: You don't do nothing because I couldn't work out.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I met with all the teams, like did
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  Speaker 1: medical had like five thousand MRIs, all the same questions,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: all the same stuff, And I knew I probably wasn't
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: going in the first round because it like got hurt
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  Speaker 1: so because I was like edging into the lottery when
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  Speaker 1: I was playing. Yeah, so I just sat there at
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: home and waited there my name called. First piece of
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: adversity was I thought I had a kind a promise
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  Speaker 1: a little bit before I ended up getting picked in
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  Speaker 1: the second round.
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  Speaker 3: So I felt a couple of spots, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 6: But like what made you go to the like cause
• 11:01
  Speaker 6: I had a similar thing happening, not to your extreme.
• 11:04
  Speaker 6: I didn't turn my a CL, but I had a
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  Speaker 6: grade three MCL spring in the draft process, so like
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  Speaker 6: my dad freaked out, like, yo, you got to go
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  Speaker 6: back to school. But what made you like, yo, I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to the league anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't know nothing about the league, right, and
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  Speaker 1: I ain't nobody had went before, so I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: how much like connections mattered and work. I was just like,
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: I'm nice, I'm done with school. They're gonna draft me somewhere.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I'm an hel up. I'm gonna be whoever's in front
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  Speaker 1: of me, and we'll just figure it out. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: really thinking like, oh, because you a second rounder, they
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  Speaker 1: ain't investing you, They're not gonna play you. I'm not
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: knowing nothing about the business. I'm just like, yeah, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing this again because I wanted to leave
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  Speaker 1: my software in. My dad told me to go back
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: because you know, I had like.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I heard of your sophomore Yeah, I had
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  Speaker 3: like USA team lined up and like all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you're like maybe lottery late first round pick up,
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  Speaker 1: but you'll be like full blown like lottery maybe even
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: squeak to a round ten type vibes if you go back.
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  Speaker 1: So again that's not knowing nothing. He's like, go back,
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: I'm all right whatever. So I go back, get hurt
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: and so fall. But in my mind, I'm like, I
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: just play all these dudes Nations. I just played them
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: all like I'm not thinking I'm not gonna come back whatever.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good, Like I'm gonna go to the team.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: I'm a b weapons in front of me and I'm
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: gonna play. I think he's like merit based.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, it's not like business, not at all.
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  Speaker 6: But I've seen you at Adidas Nations. It was just
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: crazy because I used to I was with a Dida Sit.
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: I used to go there, see so I've seen him.
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: I seen the Dame Lillards, I seen them. I've seen
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  Speaker 6: all these guys. So it's just it's kind of crazy
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: when I seen you go to the league and I'm
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: fast forward it because you went to obviously you went
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: to Detroit first. But when Kenny Akason, you got with Kenny,
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: Kenny's my Kenny was my guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my guy guy. So when you got.
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  Speaker 6: Never mind, just go ahead because because Kenny was my
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  Speaker 6: guy guy. So he called me and was like when
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  Speaker 6: you were playing for Kenny you were having he had
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: a great year, and he was just like, I told
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: him what you told me?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, what's that.
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  Speaker 6: He was like, I'm comfortable with thirty two I don't, nigga,
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  Speaker 6: my life's going to be straight if I get thirty
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  Speaker 6: two million. And he was like, I don't. I was like,
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: I don't need a max deal, Like I'm fine. Like
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: if I can't make my life straight with thirty two million,
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: I'm doing something wrong. He was like I told him that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if he told you that, but that's
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: what he told me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was when I was up for
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: like that, because after leaving Detroit, I signed like the
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: slave deal for sure, the non guarantee like a bunch
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: of triggered that one, and so you're only up for
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  Speaker 1: like the second rounds.
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  Speaker 3: I like three for thirty or four forty whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: It times it is now, and I didn't want the
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  Speaker 1: four for forty because of like layering your years and
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: your contract.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I was given the three for thirty with a player option,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of where that conversation came from. But yeah,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: not Kenny without without my D League coach Nate Lendser
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: and Kenny Atkinson like none of this happens.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: I'm my bad and fast forward because I know you
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: went through the Detroit phase and that's like a big
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: part of your journey to me.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Like with the Detroit stuff, it was like it taught
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: me the hardest version of the NBA.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: So stamming Guny is like a Miami heat disciple for sure.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: So you got the three hour practices everything, tape tape
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: shoot arounds, all that other stuff. Rookies got to be
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: there two hours before with newspapers and donuts and you
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you practice all the time. You got I had these
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: things called ninety nine ninety nins after practice where they
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: just put that on a jumbo try and just ran it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: And I just worked out against coaches full court one
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: on one, just like crazy stuff, Like it's more a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: test to your will than it is like me playing
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: one on one against you know, ball boys and coaches,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Like it's not for real, you know.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Like, so you know it was all that stuff at
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the time Vetscott treatment rookies didn't. So you know, I'm
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: fresh off acl doing all this work, not really getting
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: treatment like that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Things like that. Not a bad way, it's just like
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: the culture of what it was.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: But that's what set people back because that's why I
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: loved about Leonna.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: They didn't they didn't do that. Yeah, So Detroit was
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So I learned like the absolute hardest iteration, at least
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: in my mind at the NBA.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: So when I got to Brooklyn with Kenny, it was love.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: And then also just from a coaching standpoint, he had
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: told me same like kind of my daily coach. They
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: were like, look, bro, like you're gonna make mistakes, Like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it, because when you're in the other
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: system and you're thinking, like I gotta get the ball
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: to this guy, I gotta be just. I gotta just
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: run the play. That was you know, told to me
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: like I gotta not mess up. You can't play imperfect
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: game trying not to mess up. You know what I'm saying,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You just you fail every time. So with those two,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they were like, yo, like we believe in you play,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: like do your thing.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And then that's when it was kind of a rap.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Is that when you got comfortable in the league though.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, I think.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I think in my mind it takes about a year
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: and a half of being able to just play to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: get comfortable in the NBA. I think when you first
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: get in the league or when you first start playing
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: My first two years, like you can kind of just
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: leap on the side.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: But let's say year three, I was getting out there,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like I gotta get to it, like.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Just trying to like hoop as best I could.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Halfway through probably my fourth years when it kind of
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like slowed down your anticipating reads, anticipating coverages, you learn
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: what other teams like to do, all that stuff. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I think it takes that time period of like actually
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: stacking games. So let's say maybe like one hundred games
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: under your belt, like really playing you're like, okay, like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: this is the NBA style.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So what VIC gave you the game?
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of taking care of my body, Joe Anthony,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: he was a great vet. In terms of just like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: keeping my head up and stuff like that, I would
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: say Karen Butler, Jody Mixing, Greg Moro. Where the guys,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: oh Moose, my dog's my big thirteen really yeaha respect,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So those are the guys that were like because we
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: do stuff like one on ones and things like that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I see in practice and I'd be killing it right
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: never playing though, And so they were just like look
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: bro or look young fella, like you're.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Gonna be all right, it's gonna work out.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We see what you're doing in practice, like you can
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: play at this level, like it's gonna something's gonna happen.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Something's gonna happen. And I don't even think I really
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: believe him at the time. I'm just sitting there like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Loki soaking. I'm killing in practicing, like like no minutes.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I think one year I played twelve games and those
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: are all like thirty seconds a piece, like I wouldn't
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like playing it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, you talk about when you.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Had an NBA moment like but you're like, damn, I'm
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: here now, I'm ready to really get.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: To a moment for my confidence or like just.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: For your confidence, and when you felt like, Okay, I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: about to really start giving trying to give niggas twenty
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: at night.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: That was.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: That was probably some time in Brooklyn when I when
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I started feeling like that, but you chucking that motherfucking Brooklyn.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah up. That was That was sometime in Brooklyn. I mean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but when I felt like, okay, you'll be all right.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Was I had my first start against d Rose, I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: had like twelve and like ten or something like that.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And then I had a game probably like a week
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: later against John Wall at the Wizard had like twenty.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: It was like my first twin point game. I was
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: like okay, like because those were people you look up to.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't just
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: like you know, the backups were playing or you went
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in there and it wasn't a real game or something
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like you know real games and you know, so play
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: well against them. They gave me confidences like Okay, you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: can do it. And then in Brooklyn, I mean I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: had to run. Had to be probably year four where
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I was like hitting like game winners and stuff, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I was like all right with everybody talking about it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: on now.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably it yere four.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Like when we get when you first get to the league,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: obviously it's a it's a it's a difference, like you
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: start seeing like damn, I was nice in college, but
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: these dudes are crazy, and so you kind of embraced
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: that moment. But like when they start picking on you,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: and they do the rookie hayes and they all the
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: little ship that come with being a rookie. Did you
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: have a rookie hayes? And did you your car popcorn?
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Did you get you know, I had to bring donuts
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: all that stuff.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had donuts.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Uh the newspaper and then.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: They like that's the old as team, that's the newspapers.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: They like, uh like, try to tie it to a chair,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: throw me in the ice up goddamn.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Because I was like I had that level of like, look,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I respect.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: All y'all, but I'm not hearing it if you can't
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: guard me. Bro, Like stop talking to me crazy, Like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. So there was a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: level of that, like they say something like.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Bro, who got you want to get newspapers?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: The person who was born boy papers and uh a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: notebook with a pen because he wanted to like occasionally
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: write raps.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: And it was like, bro, man, my boy had bars.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: We celebrate on here. I don't even remember celebrate.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: One like old school black and white composition joints. Bro
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: like not wrapping for real? Why of bars? The leak celebrate.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: Ass come from the lineage to like Joe Smith. That's
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: my best was Joe Smith. Eric Damn period time. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: had some old head, so they my car because I
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: wasn't going for nothing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Bro, That's what I'm saying. I'm in here. I'm not
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: going like I bring the donuts, but like Bro relax.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: I brung donuts and they never ate them. And I
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: kept on my locker and I just kept puting them.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: The box up there, and finally Josh Smith had a
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: drunk night and the donuts were green.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: He opened them up. He said, Man, what the fu
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: car was popped? My car was popped cords so Karan
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: never spit that for you, Bro, Bro crazy, that's crazy. Wow.
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: I see trying to get deals and keep it clean
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: here and when I it's gonna be, you gotta pick
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: a side.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: What like.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Up for it? It's crazy, Bro.
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: Split up and Spitial games talking ship. That ain't nothing
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: bo Hello interview.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: That's the best thing about the show as fun it is,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it's very challeish, Man. We gotta talk about it, man,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I realized. I was like, Spencer is a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: real hustler because you're trying to get that deal in Bigcoin.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I said, my boy is a real finessor please talk
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: about how you got to that situation, man, all.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Right, son.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: The funny part about that is, like it may headline
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: because of the bitcoin aspect, because like the league threatened
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to kick me out. That's crazych was a whole other thing.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: But really it was a play on blockchain technology. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you the thirty second. Blockchain technology is about like micro transactions,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: being able to send stuff peer to peer, like adding
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: liquidity to whatever system it is. So I was trying
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to decentralize sports contracts, all this betting that we see
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and everything that's going on now, trying to do that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: ship back in what was it twenty seventeen or something
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like that. So it was a play opening up like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the sports contract world, and they were like Champ, m hm,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it's through, We're gonna kick.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: You out the league.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So that I had to like redo it in a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: bunch of different ways to like be complying with the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: NBA because you know, I love my job, Thank you guys,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: shout out in the NBA, shout out to the NBA
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: facts whatnot. But uh yeah, I mean that that's really
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what it was about. And so it became far more
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: bitcoin centric because.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: That's kind of what they were going to.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Allow versus the overall business of what I was trying
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to do, because I mean, as you see with gambling
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and the parlays and everything going on with fan doing
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: draftings and all that, right now, I wanted to, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: slide my little business idea in there. They get bought out,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: they make ten band dolls, I make one, and I'm like, man,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it's all good.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I'm partnering with the league. And they were like, that
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: was what they were saying, right, No, they wasn't.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: When he said when he when I read about it,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I said, he a mad genius. I said, I was
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: on his way out.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I where I said, he is a mad genius.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I said he bareter lead him alone because he thinking,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: he thinking ten steps ahead.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: And they don't. I bet he knows. Don't worry about it,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, he was a mad genius. He was
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: about to be junior Bridgeman.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said he was a mad genius. They would
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: have They wasn't allowing him to be a mad genius.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Like it's the n B A I still love the NBA.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to go to J Cole's party and uh,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: what's it called Dreamville, I'll be there shout out to
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: the NBA.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, he's NBA. I'm going to the NBA.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to espersonally bought the Lord gonna bless
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: you one day.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: But I think like, because that's the moment when I
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: was like, Yo, he's different. Because me, I was just like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: I've know that I got the bread. For him to
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: think like that, I was like, he's different. He probably
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: gonna do something. So even that, and for you making
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: your own shoe, I remember seeing you on the court,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, this nigga really got his own shoes,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Like he really got his own shoes. And now to
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: see that, like to do that. And then I see
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: guys like Jaylen Brown, you know sexy.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's something that I guess in the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: history books, I probably won't get much credit for it,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: but like now it's sexy.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I'm happy Jameson Brown is doing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna give you your You're not gonna pass him, no,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: I mean yeah, he said, he said sexy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: You ain't getting no pass on this.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, because they kind of looked like Kobe's
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit and I was like, I was like,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: he like Kobe, like when I first see it, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you probably remember I for some of them.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I said, Yo, can't get some of them? Yeah?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Actually I did. I was like, you can't get some
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: of his shoes Brooklyn ball boys. I was like, YO,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: tell a dude, I want some shoes. They was like, yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: he don't give them out.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, damn.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's stingy with I don't know why.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They said not, he don't be giving them out. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: was like, for real, I was like, this ship's weak bought.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yah, I bought the laws of I never got them.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: My boy, I'm still away from my triple B. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: spent five. But then I seen you. I'm like, bro,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: he really you?
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: And again yeah, got his own shoes and I'm like
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: that's hard. I'm like, I want some of his shoes.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: They like, yeah, don't give them out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: What made you do that?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So basically again like kind of entrepreneur mindset, like I'm
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: again second round, pick all that stuff, Like you want
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to give me like a fifty merch deal.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I was just like, but no, not few thousand dollars,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: just a little merch.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: If you know anything about that your family fly through
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that thing before you can get it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might as well not even have it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's in there, Like, yeah, what it'd be like, you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, had my own shoes blah blah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and like I used to draw shoes kids, So it
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, crime Butther doing his wraps, I'm
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: drawing shoes, just killing time, and I was like, let.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Me try it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And so it's both harder and not as hard as
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you think if you have like a template to build
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off of, which was a Kobe and so coach is
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: my favorite player. I wore Kobe's all the time, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: so that's kind of how my shoe was constructed. And
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: then it turned to a business basically, which then three
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: sixty one, which is basically almost I mean you got
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: probably like three major brands in China's leaning into the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: three sixty one, and so then they brought me out.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: My signature went up under them, and so you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: now I've had a signature with them for three years
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and going forward with that. So it ended up working
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: because you know that path took me to them. Not
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: only did I make a little bit of money doing
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: my own shoe, but then you know, when you're shown
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you can do it, they buy you out and all
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: other stuff, become partners everything, they pay you for all that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So it turned to a whole different type of deal
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: then obviously, like you know, you know how it is
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: with like Nike, and I'm like, ain't nobody getting up
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: real money off of Nike unless you are that that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: one two three, Yeah, you gotta be Brian, you know, KD, Kyrie,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: those guys other than that, like you're not making no real.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Money off them.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: But three sixty one they got I got some players
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: on that. Oh yeah, definitely, because we just got Yokis.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, was like when Yo came over. Yeah, it's little
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: I think Aaron first, Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Then it was me. Then now they got Yokas. It's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: probably gonna it's gonna be a thing.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Is it just on the course or off the course?
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I mean say off the court too, But I'm not
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: really off the court.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I really think the only I think the only baskets
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: shoot you can get away with off the court probably
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: James bro Like nobody's really wearing Kobe's or Bronze or anything.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Like, don't wear the club.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Let's be real, Like I know they say you can
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and like you know, maybe bron did some promo for
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that or hardened some promo for that, but like nobody
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: doing that. There's Jays, you got designers, Chucks fans. Like
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in terms of American culture off the court, that's sixty
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: months off the court of y'all. Come just call me,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: y'all know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeahway, I realized shoes pulling on that right there?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: That's so yeah, that's last year. Those are the twos
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: okay DVD too.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing it. I think it drops in like I
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: think it's supposed to.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Can we get some thirties manes Man on the show.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: And I'm hoping on mar fact, I hope all the time.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Still there we go. I hoped, and I hoped. The
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: answers I hope in some hard nozs.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: That's nons, right, some hard nons. Shout to the family.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Shouts to the family. I hooped in the deer and
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: fox shout to the family under arm.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: Get all right, yeah, I got some ship you all right, cools,
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: it just give me a law to its crazy.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Funny bro the left. That's hard though, that is to matter.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I want that colorway, look that apple green is fine
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: all right, what's shop off camera? For sure?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: The next episode, I got you listen, man, here, You've
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: been around for a lot of different stuff. I got
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to ask you most recently. We're gonna fast forward a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: little bit. Where were you at when you found out
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that Luca Dodgers was no longer your teammate?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That's so let me let me tell you, Like, I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody would disagree with this going into the season,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you would have thought he was untouchable, right, So we
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: m b and and Edwards and Proac, Tatum and l
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and you know those type guys.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: It was just crazy because you know, we had an
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: early game against Cleveland the next day, so I went
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: to sleep early. You know how like on a normal
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: game that you might be up twelve to one whatever,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be up to eight or nine, so you're still
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: getting your six, seven, eight hours whatever.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But we had to be up early. We were playing
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: at like two or something like that. So I probably
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: went to bedter like eleven or maybe a little bit
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: earlier than that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So when I woke up, I knew it was a problem,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: or not a problem, but I knew it was someone
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: on because I had like other NBA player miscalls like
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: like Zach Lavine d Lo, like people like something open
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: on my phone, Like why I got like three miscalls
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: from d Lo?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Why I got like a couple miss calls from Zach,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Like hell going on?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Like I saw my agent, but like whatever he called for,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: whatever you called for, and then I went to my
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: messages and that's when you know what I'm saying, it's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: set in.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean everybody was just shock.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Bro, Like, I don't think there's any way to put it, Like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know, both A D my friends, so it's kind
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you know, it sucks that they're also
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: acting like a D ain't probably a top five power
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: for it all time, so like talking about the bag
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of chips.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Or something, which is crazy.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But I just think anybody that said they could have
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna happen or predicted it or
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: that that's a lot like everybody was.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Everybody was shocked.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the moments that everybody remembers where
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they were when that should happened.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: That was like a monumental NBA moment.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: That's going down to NBA here is one of the
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: most shocked in moments in NBA history for sure. It's
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: it's not like I know, everybody got hurt this year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, y'all everybody. Yeah, it's crazy. Were almost forfeit
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: the game or something like that. That's what the report said.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know the rules, but that's what they said. Yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: we're almost forfeited.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. Everybody got hurt.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: But when you look back at that trade, it's not
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: as Luca is great man, he's amazing, but it's not
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: as bad as That's what.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I said, like ad a top five powerful, top seventy
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: five for sure, what I'm saying, top seventy five. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: if you look at what he was able to do
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with like Gaff and stuff in the Rocket skin.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: One game they played, they played the first half. I
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: think the Rockets scored thirty eight points. It was in
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the rock time, what second in the West something like that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: They hooping, they're doing well, like and that trio of PJ. A.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: D And Gaff it was just nowhere to go. So
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you know, that was that was exciting to see.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I got I understood what was going on. I mean,
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: it still was a shocking trailer. I understood it, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: it wasn't like, like, damn, they ain't getting nothing back.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that was the thing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Like and like I said, they both my friends and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: l to me is probably the best offensive player in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the NBA right now, you know what I'm saying. And
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: but Ad might be the best two way play probably him,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: honest right, Like, So it's not like sir, you know,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough position to be in. Like
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I said, the only thing that that sucks is that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: they acting like a boom. That's that's the crazy part.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Like you can feel like you feel about the trade,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: win lose, better for now, better for future, whatever it
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: may be.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: But like, we gotta stop backing like a d ain't
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a d we got, we gotta that's just that we got.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: We gotta stop that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: Well, we're talking about good guards now. Now, now we're
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: talking about language. Yeah, you said Luca the best offensive guard.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah you think Luca bag is deeper than say or Edwards.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You guarded you guard all these Yeah, and you a
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: bigger guard, and you one of the best isolation guards
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: in the league.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I know that, I know that, I know.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Listen, listen, can I tell you this all the time.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I think this year right now like top fifteen, but
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: every yeah, I've been.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Like top ten. Yeah, I know I've been like I
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: don't I know, I know every years were like and
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I'll be catching.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Hell and heat on like social media and ship because
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: they'll look at like the rankings and they'll be like
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: k D Jimmy Spence and.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Then like the other guys will be like Tatum like
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: how the hell he in there? Why he in there?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Like that between the hesitation, He's going, I know it,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I'm there in I know, I know it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: But now I would say back between those three, uh
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you guard all three? Who the toughest cover? Toughest cover
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for me?
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: No? No, So here's the deal. I think I think
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: styles make fights back.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Like, for example, somebody I hate Garden that won't be
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in that list, Darius Garland.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: He just so much is jittery ship that I'm like, bro,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: relax the end of my career. Like yeah, like I'm like, bro,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: like stop stop moving.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So Shae likes to get to that like big shoulder
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: bump to the MIDI, which for me is a little
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: bit easier than like like I said, there's gone and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: something like that because I can kind of pause if
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: necessarily absorb that contact and like still kind of play them.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I like the guy, but he got a crazy whistle though,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: so like you're fucking around foul out to Superstars Superstar ever.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Got post game? But right now with the way he's
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: shooting the three and it's explosive as he is, Like,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that's tough cover.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: So you're going to sleep early for that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they all nice, though it's tough, like to be honest,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like Shae's bag with pivots and stuff like that. In
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: terms of what we think of his guards, it's probably
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit deeper than theirs, and it's got the exposiveness.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And once you add the post game, it changes that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: conversation with L because you know, you put a small
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: guy on L, like he's really walking you to the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: block Christmas, Like she's.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Bumped fade off the block.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: It's that's more like ice so two man game, like
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: you can really bury you, like you'll just walk you.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Down, walk you down and walk you down.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: Push them, you know what I'm saying, Like they all
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: to covers, they all to me are elite guards and
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: obviously they're all in the MVP conversation every year whatever
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: they've been in these last couple of years. But I
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: know you and like seeing you compete against them, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: you were a bigger guard to me six five sixty six.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I'm six to one. I used to be like this
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: mo fucker tall at ship. You are like taller ship.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: So I remember I was on the Pacers and you
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: were playing for Brooklyn and the point guard was Isaiah
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Whitehead started broh, yes, I swear, and people that know me,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: I talk ship all day. So I'm talking ship to Kenny.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: I'm like, you gotta get this motherfucker out of here.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: He can't play.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't play, and Kenny like shut and
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: then you supped. Then and Kenny, I'm yeah, shooting a
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: free throw. I walked this. I'm like, yo, he can't play.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: He was like this motherfucker can and I'm like, I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: like what, he ain't even playing. He was like he's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: gonna be starting from here on out. I'll tell you that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Watch I'm telling you six six and me and him
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: are having a conversation in the middle of the game,
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: and then I've seen it fast forward.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this mother fuck about to get paid.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Kenny seen something.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you came off the bench and it was just
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: brook Low pez shooting threes and all this ship and
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: you came and you started starting.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: You had your run.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: But Kenny called that ship out. I remember that game
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Isaiah Whitehall was starting. You came in and he called
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: that ship you a bucket. I appreciate you can't man
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: like Kenny real for sure, man the blueprints real with him.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Look at this we talk about how Drum right now,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: like his impact on.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Guards has proven for even like d Low he got
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: with Kenny, it was just for sure.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I think like the other thing too, is like when
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: when Kenny was younger, he used to hoop with you,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: usually be in a like so you felt like he
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: had your back in the sense like he's gonna do
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the work out with you type of vibe. Like sometimes
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it was crazy and he got hurt doing it towards
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Quad one time doing that ship but damn oh yeah,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I was to isolate, uh, Jared Allen. We was all kids,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: basically Brooklyn towards.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Trying to really like Kobe clear out.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Like Kenny, I used to play, but he used to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: play with no shoes from no He used to play
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: barefoot excuse me, I America. He played overseas long time.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: He went to Richmond, but he used to play barefoot,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Like I come in, he will be barefoot where that
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: came from, and then you do your drills. He guards
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: you the whole Yeah. Yeah, but he used to play
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: barefoot three on three with us.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: He got the limit pepper step, but out there hoot a.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Real grips a lie. I was right, I was right here.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I was just I was just making it in the league.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I was starting. I got with Kenny. They all start saying,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Kenny Levet Star cruising.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: In the NBA one on one on a Hordwood floor,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: barefoot from.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: My right handed guy. Y'all ever meet Kenny, Ask me
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: he used to play with those shoes. I know that
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't, but yeah, even in the fire solition.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I PEO don't understand how much like situation coaches believe
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: all that stuff like it matters because there's only so
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: many people that can go to the front office and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: be like, oh nah, this is what we're gonna do.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the coach says, like blah blah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: If you're under that superstar teer bro and the coach
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: says like, Nah, we're gonna play this way, then that's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the way you playing well. That's to your strength, whether
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it's not. You might be out there looking ass even
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: though you got a specific strength. But if you tell
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: you to do what you gotta try to do it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: So that's why I'm happy for what they're doing in Cleveland.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: You haveing a hell of a year and you see
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: all them guys thriving, even the guys come off the
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: bench have moments.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I'm a big advocate for Kenny Atkinson. That's one of
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: my favorite coaches I ever played for you coming up
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: under Kenny.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Could you see yourself coaching one day or taking one
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: of them type of roles in the league, hoping against
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: the young niggas barefoot.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I mean for Suf, not that for me.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I mean I can see if like because Dad's got
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a real good, like family kind of atmosphere. I think,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know, Cuban really tried to or mc sorry, he
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: tried to establish that. I think it's carrying over obviously
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: with a lot of former players like Tyson Chandler, Sei.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Mary and like still employed by Finley.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Finley, Like if it was a situation where
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I was like almost a practice player, but getting like
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a just a small assistant coach out nothing crazy, but
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: like practice player. I come in on your home games,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: but I don't got to travel like all that, Like
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I could do that. But pashion of really being like
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a head coach and all that so serious and sham
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: got over there with you. Yeah, but Shaman real coach though,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: like he travels you doing all this stuff like in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to come in Tyson Chandler right now,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: he's at every home game, all.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: The home practice.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: He don't travel like I could do that, like practice
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: with the players, stay in shape, be a o g
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: give wisdom. But then like y'all leave, and yeah, I'm
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: not going any what coming game you.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Are right now?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I feel put up to that crazy, Yeah, I feel.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: But I was one thing I'll say about the mask
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to be here, could have test. Hey, they take care
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: of their people. Boy, listen, we went last year.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna bring that up. Man, the hospitality, bro,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we can't. That food for the first family was piff.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was not what the papers.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: Now y'all eat, y'all eat good. You know what I'm
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: saying are being is he just he chose to get
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: a White Goo hot dog. Yeah, he traveled, he high
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: dog contests all that type of ship.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: A glizzy monster. He's a glisy monster. They said they
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: had they had lobster steak, shrimp.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: He went to the White Goo station and got a
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: he got it glizzy.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Mike Fricky, Mike Mahan got a glizzy add lobster state
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and shrimp.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: You know, it's different when you eat with white people.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: They said, you try to glizer run there. Who wow,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: they said, wow, is crazy us on the way in.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Shout to the bass first class organization for sure, for sure,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: for sure. All been listen obviously it's been an upper
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: down year for y'all. But I want to ask you.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I know you are tapping into the social media's but
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: your laker tacher, I don't want to talk about too
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: much about it, but how was that like playing for
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: that organization and then like being on the internet at
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Oh uh, I mean, just because I'm from LA, you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: kind of understand going there what it's going to be.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So I didn't go in there expecting like for it
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to be something different, like okay, because the.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Way I got there obviously with the whole like.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn thing and all the shit they went on that way,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and then picking a team in the bio market. Uh,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you know for Das, they had Dason Las kind of
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: had a similar year, Like nobody knew that was gonna
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: take off, like the PJ and Gaff additions like like
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: change the whole trajectory and the way they jail and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you know, credit to them making
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the finals with the Lakers, Like I knew, Okay, Delos
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: there ar's there, uh bron ad. So it's not like
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna come there in average twenty like you know
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that one in there. And for the fan base, like
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's when or you ask, there's there's no
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in between. Like certain fan base are like, oh you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: tried hard. You know what I'm saying. They're like whenter
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you suck. So when I went there knowing that, so
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as like for me for some people,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I was mad at you man, We're not going to Dallas.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: I said, gotta go to Dallas because you just had
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: a phenomenal Yeah, you just showed. I'm like, he know them, Yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: he just killed there. He gotta go back there and
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: when you went to l A. I said, you gotta
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: go to Dallas. You said it on here too, I said,
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: he supposed to go to Dallas.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: NA hindsight, Yeah, I mean obviously with the finals run
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and and the back here this year and all that stuff,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: like for sure would have been great.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: And it's hard to turn down l A B. Yeah,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: you know you from there and like all that stuff.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Like it's and like I said, at the time, both
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: teams were kind of in like the middle, lower end,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: lower end of the playoff race of the Western Conference,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like nobody knew.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I think they went like.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Eighteen and two at one point, like nobody they when
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the when the switch clicked or how do you want
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: to say it, like that took off, you know what
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So I don't regret it. But obviously, like you know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: who wouldn't want to go to the finals. That's after
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: already being at the conference finals. So you know, it
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: is what it is.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: It's definitely I gotta ask, man, some of the practice
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: you've probably seen. You got two of the most skilled
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: basketball players ever between Luke and Kyrie. What's it like
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: just to see them up close? Every Obviously we know
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you cold, but just to see them like just hoop
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: on the consistent basis. What's this is the like motivating
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: does everybody buy inteck? You see like everybody teams is like,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I really fuck with basketball, bro, you don't see that?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I think?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Uh, I think the difference with like Kyrie and any
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: other like player that I've been around, Like the again
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: made pause if needed, but like the way he moves
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: is like it's like artistic in a sense, you know
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's just it's a very different
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like eye test, right, Like some people are explosive, some
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: people are you know this or that dominant can shoot
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it well whatever, Like been around a lot of greats,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like even the Kd's Lucas bron even like.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: It's just the way he does it is more appealing
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: to look at, if that makes sense. Yeah, Lucas is dominant.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Like you know, he can run off ten threes, he
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: can post you up, he can get to the Dirk
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: fade in the MIDI he got everything, and then his
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: passing is sensational two. So you know, I mean there's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: nothing you can't say about about ill, right, but I
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: just think like the eye test from just like a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: like how it looks. Probably him and Paul George probably
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: got the most appealing games to look at.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: No, Paul George.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You talk about audiosters, they always say who I want
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to play like Paul George.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: When I played, Like when I used to watch him
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: in practice when we played in Indiana, I used to
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: just be like.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: He cold. Yeah, you said, I like Cold Bro. That's
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: crossover snash back bro.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Only game I seen that was better than him, And
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: practice was there, like when you seen d Rose, it
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: was just like, man, what the hell is something right?
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: How are you moving this fade? And Toya you Din
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: did it? People saying you're sad you didn't fell and
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: you still just doing ship. That's unbelievable. But I couldn't
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: imagine Kyrie, you know, guard him. At one point in
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: my career, I guarded Kyrie more than.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Anybody in NBA. Really, that's a fact, fact, which is crazy.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: And I have I guarded more than anybody else.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: So I've experienced them as an islands yea, And like
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: his shot making ability was always the thing for me.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: Like I remember one game we played Indiana, I guarded.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: I literally guarded for eighteen seconds. I remember watching the
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: clip when I came back and I was guarding my
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: ass off. And to know, Kyrie, he can go left
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: and do all that shit, but he prefers to go
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: right right, that's his preferred hand. He can go left,
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: we know that. But I was forcing him left and
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: I was on this ship and somebody got back to
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: that right anyway, and he had a fallout fade away.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Nobody helped me, mind you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: He went from the left side of the court all
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: the way to the right side of course, shot of
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: fade away.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And hit it. I never got any help.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: After the game, I watched the clip and I was
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: just like, what the fuck am I supposed to do?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And mind you, that game he had thirty seven points,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: but all his shots were just like in my face,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't guard no better, so
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I might alas just stopped.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not lying, bro yo, what the are you doing
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: on the stack? We on our shore. He just serve
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: he gave me, he did.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I guard him the most like ship.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: He was averaging twenty eight.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so he had. He had a lot many
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: times he get forwarded up.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, damn, hold on.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: That's when he first went to Brooklyn. I know that game. Yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't clip. Yeah, we fail to try to made it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he got against me. I don't
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: know why he was like that on me.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: Bro so thirst to be an into athlete.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: You know what we're gonna go through. I don't think
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Kyrie today, I'm not. He's never had twenty time. Yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: I like him up play. That's a d NV put
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: that he had twenty every year. Every them putting the
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: zero point on you was crazy. We had twenty four
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: every day. I think you can't even guard me on
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: the bitch. Yeah. I locked him up. That guy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: I remember he's a rookie. After the down said you're
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: gonna be lo let me. I tell her, you're gonna
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: be a good player.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Kid. You're like I did, He's gonna be We beat
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: the ship out.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: We probably beat him by thirty, so I'm like, you're
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be He knew he was on real then, but
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I called you Yeah, oh god, he did.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: We got a conversation.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I said, he's gonna be the best. He's one of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the hardest players I regard play. Yeah, but I said're
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be good, kid, Keep working next thing. You know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: he ain't scoring twenty You your memory is amazing, bro story.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know appreciate that what I do, Mike, I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: didn't play a lot. We're going them out only fourteen.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't play how many minutes? How many minutes?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I didn't get the fourth quarter?
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Let's half a game.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: What game was that he had to be with Lebron? Yeah?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a toy many motherfucker playing forty four minutes?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: That's the whole game, y'all say, boy, you did not
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: slept at all? You playing for team niggas. I don't
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: know what game that was because I never played forty
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: four He and a good night, he shopping more than me.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Clearly, did I ever have a good game?
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: I have a good game against Okay, okay, let's like talk, okay,
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: cool in a game winner.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: A matter of fact, I hit the game winner now
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: on Trusty, Yeah it is okay cool. What's the actually
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: what's your high? Forty? I would say? Yeah?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: He who?
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Uh the spurs? John say and d White? Wow, pull
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: it up? What the fuck? What year was that? Old on?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Load up the drake? You gave us thirty six? Where
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: was I at.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: I am, so you gave forty de John say, yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: That's that's a tough g. What do you on the
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Spurs because the white wi my guy? Yeah, Colorado okay,
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: but getting what are you on the Spurs? It's crazy.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: That I just went to rock too.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Oh. I mean we weren't together, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: But that's that crazy. Sure, the type of players are,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. But I can believe he gave us thirty six.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I remember a couple of games.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: You had really good games on us, and I just
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: used to laugh because I just remember Kenny, Oh Ship, Yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: I can't give a fuck.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Was I playing? Oh it was dark? Was your first
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: year nineteen? No? He was? I was? That was that
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: before that zero overturn? Yeah? I was out there. I
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: probably was like killing probably killing the ball go crazy.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a game. Boy, that's a good game.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: That's yeah, Ship, Yeah, six eight and five up. Ship,
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: shout out to my boy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Matter of fact, brot the clips when YouTube that could
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: get help for real?
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Make sure I was just no, no, no, just do
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: a Kyrie compilation for.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Feature and Spence sold on. Give me forty I got you. Hey, listen,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: go ahead and kick off man. I appreciate that. I
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: take it for.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Thirty six spence forty Kyrie Nah's I never saw the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: defensive player. I never want to boys that we go
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: make clip up the other flacker Foles, I don't know.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: While I thought he was small though, I didn't know
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: he was six.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: This was hen he got on some fans guitar for real?
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: This is really yeah, I'm six now listen.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: We started off this episode talking about how you saving
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: my opposite. You know you're financially intelligent, but when you
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: first got the bag, you was real comfortable with what
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: was a crazy purchase.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Well wait till the end of my rookie year and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I got a tested Okay, so I was at the
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: very end basically going into my second year.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: That was it other than that you keep it simm Yeah.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, bro, I didn't have no money. I had
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: no money for real. Were you living in l a
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: St Or Yeah, But like.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: My first year, I went back to my parents' house
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: second year, and like actually I went back to my
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: parents second year. In my third year, I think I
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: had like one of the apartments in Beverly Hills, but
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like one of them crazy pouses.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that. It was like real regular.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I moved with my parents myfe year. You moved in
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: and moved out, well, moved in with oh, but you
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: went back here though, right moved right on. It was
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: a different. Yeah, that's a different that's a different situation.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: He's trying to have. He's still trying to live like
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Michael or you can tell him, why.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Did you took my house? Basically when I moved back, Oh,
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: they read out their house.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was a guessing my home and they literally
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: took up my bedroom and they like I came in
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: there with my teeth.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Everything was different. My bed was in the basement. I
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: just I worked it out for the year. How was
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: that living at home with your parents? Though?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Bro in the league, did you have to come in
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the house before a certain time?
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you at that time, because
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you remember, like what twenty one something like that, something
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like oh, they're like, hey, could you know check in?
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: No, they were like that because my parents are like
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: old school stacks, yeah that stuff.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: So they were saying all that, and yeah, I would
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: have went right back to Detroit. I remember.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: I came and stayed in my house my rookie year,
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: my mom and dad house. I came home for my
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: birthday weekend. I came home at four. My mom was
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: like whoa, Like, we're not doing that, na.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I said, I'm going back because I'm doing that. You
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: don't know my life living in Atlanta start tow. Yeah
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: you had it broke. Yeah, I'm Detroit, Bro. I mean
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Detroit because you're thinking Detroit Detroit. I was out in
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Auburn Hills.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Who was different at the Auburn House? Yeah, that was
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: well what we used to be at Birmingham.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was just like nerdy man drive bro. Yeah, okay, respect,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: I just I.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Don't know, just you be in the league and your
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: daddy saying, hey, my nigga, you wild.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Like they kept it cool though. I mean it was subtle.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like nah, you can't do It was like,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: you know, like taping and you chill like let us know.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: And I was just for his parents. Yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Plus, like I said, Bro, I was broke. I didn't
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: even get the first round like million. No, it was
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like five hundred thousand, bro. So like after taxis two
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: fifty after you spend your monthly. You got maybe one
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: hundred grand, like fifty grand somebody whatever. It was like, Bro,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you're not in a rush to be like, oh, I'm
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: gonna spend five six thousand on the apartment for a
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: couple of months and that hunting turn into eighty.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: But when you got that that bag from Brooklyn, everybody
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: gets sunk. I mean I like watches. Yeah, turn to
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: look for me, because that's what these niggers do. I got.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: I got a couple of things like I got, like
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: the the Panther and the Spider Man, like the aps.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Look at him, look at him? He a watch. Guy.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I ain't ever bought nothing.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Oh really, I bought house. He did, That's all I didn't.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't buy my my crib in l A to
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to my second deal. That's when I got that one.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: No, you did it smart. I housed up immediately. I
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: was ready to be a m P. It was worth it.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: I was. I was already having going.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: The house. I was to get the content, bro, before
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: the facts. Fact. I was like, I was ready the
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: party going crazy. Yeah, I was lit.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: But that ain't about nothing. I still they brought none.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I still need to buy a watch.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: You gotta do that. Yeah, I'm free. I haven't bought
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: a watch. I'm surprised by that.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta do something. You got coppy roll off
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: the straps, for sure. They do my wife's my wife's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: wedding ring. They might like me frost enough for sure. Listen, man,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: we know you got plenty of things to do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Man, we appreciate you, sliding man telling people that can
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: grab the kicksad Man to support baby.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I think it's three sixty one thinks.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Wee U not Hong Kong.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Listen, they're the best part has ever if I just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: don't know the exact website because it's like three different websites.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Watch that's what I'm saying.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: Got three different websites. Dot come and shout out the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: spence Man. We spent a great time, man, I ain't
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: gonna lie now.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: We put them on it. We're gonna need our shoes.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah I got because we're gonna treat you like the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: three Big Company bro lamar balling them.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: We're gonna treat you like them. Shoes goa come. We
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna shout it out triple. It's efficiently right there, bro.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: It's not even in my control. Well, talk about people, y'all.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: To niggas say talking about people, y'all, I'm talking about
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: what okay, okay, yeah, like a.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Mission in the club, y'all. Like for sure, man, thank you,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: don't appreciate.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: We'll be out next time, like share scrap that good
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: stuff will be back.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Club five twenty
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: The volume