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Hyundai Ioniq 5, RAM 1500 TRX, plus car news! · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: I meant to ask you if you could pick your
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  Speaker 1: favorite car of the year you're born.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's a good idea. Yes, are you just
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  Speaker 2: typing in.
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen forty two? You could probably do that? That Mercedes
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  Speaker 1: at Hitler Drow during the war.
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  Speaker 2: That is funny.
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  Speaker 1: Shit, what what do you got? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've literally just typed in nineteen eighty seven, hold in
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  Speaker 2: Commodore because that's probably what it's gonna be. Really, No,
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  Speaker 2: I know what it is now. It's the F forty Ferrari.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's an easy owner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nineteen eighty seven, which was my year
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  Speaker 2: of birth. So yeah, that's that's me. That would actually
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  Speaker 2: suit me just nicely.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a log. What was yours?
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  Speaker 2: Like the horse and cart?
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  Speaker 1: All right, mate, crack in the little jokes like go tod,
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  Speaker 1: this's great joke on the podcast Halls and Cart. Can
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: I deliver it again? I was thinking the Bentley Mulsane Turbo.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's the one. It's got to be
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  Speaker 1: the one with the dual headlight. It's not the big
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  Speaker 1: square ones because they look shitty. Yep, they do kind
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  Speaker 1: of look cool in a way, like eighties cool, like
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  Speaker 1: Jack Thompson smoking on the bonnet call. But I reckon there.
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  Speaker 2: They were James bonded as well, I think, oh from memory. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just having a look now. So it says Bond
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  Speaker 2: purchases a Mulsan turbo in John Gardener's eighty four James
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  Speaker 2: Bond novel Role of Honor.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now I've fallen asleep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the interesting thing with with those cars,
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  Speaker 2: and that one in particular, the Bentley actually had a
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  Speaker 2: Rolls Royce engine, and Rolls Royce goes to so much
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  Speaker 2: effort with their engine sizes that it was a six
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  Speaker 2: point seven five liter V eight. How precise is that?
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, my grandma used to be like head
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  Speaker 1: inspector of during the war, like they used to put
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  Speaker 1: them in aeroplanes and stuff. She used to going over
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: people's work. You might have known her, like you probably
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  Speaker 1: worked with her back in the day. Do you know what?
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: I realized we haven't even done an intro yet. And
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  Speaker 1: last week I kind of give you the big sort
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  Speaker 1: of hey guys, it's Paul from car Expert dot com
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  Speaker 1: dot you, and then I just get I just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: my own name, and then we move on and you
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  Speaker 1: just make some terrible remarks. I go home and cry
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  Speaker 1: to my wife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, it's Gordy from the radio station. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, my name's Paul from Car Expert. I've also signed
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  Speaker 1: with Channel seven. Actually, you know what, I've signed my
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  Speaker 1: own deal. It's with SBS. And I can't tell you this,
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: but I've signed to SBS. And it's a car show, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and it's me and leland Chin in the back of
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  Speaker 1: various cars and we just make out for twenty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and then she finally looks out the window and says,
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  Speaker 1: I wish I went electric. And I'm like, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about the car, right, and she just pauses for a
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  Speaker 1: long while and goes, no, I we got to talk
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  Speaker 1: about some cars that have been released straight up direct
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  Speaker 1: from the LA Auto Show. The Porsche RS or the
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  Speaker 1: Porsche Cayman RS.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the GT four RS. I mean they revealed the
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  Speaker 2: GT four version of the Cayman, which existed in the
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  Speaker 2: previous Cayman. But now the seven one eight is bringing
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the world's worst kept secret, but an
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  Speaker 2: RS version of the GT four and.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that blows me away.
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  Speaker 2: They kind of always said that the four leter wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: fit into their and it's it's kind of familiar with
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  Speaker 2: things like the nine to eleven GT three cup car
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  Speaker 2: and the series production nine to eleven GT three, which
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  Speaker 2: means three hundred and sixty eight kilowatts of power and
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  Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty meters of talk like it is
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  Speaker 2: just genuinely insanity in a car that weighs what fourteen
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  Speaker 2: hundred kilos and it looks, it looks so menacing.
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  Speaker 1: So good. They've literally put a nine to eleven engine
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  Speaker 1: in this right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's the four liter effectively out of the
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  Speaker 2: GT three, so it's very similar. And this is I
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  Speaker 2: guess this is what you'd call a mid engine car
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  Speaker 2: because it doesn't actually have an engine in the back
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  Speaker 2: like a nine to eleven does. So it is quite
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  Speaker 2: a complex machine in terms of the way they've got
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  Speaker 2: it set up. And it's up almost sixty kilowats and
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  Speaker 2: twenty new meters over the standard GT four and I
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  Speaker 2: think the best bit is at revs to nine thousand rpm,
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  Speaker 2: which is just amazing.
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  Speaker 1: See Porscha purists will hate me saying this, but everyone
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  Speaker 1: was like, there's no way a Cayman will ever be
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  Speaker 1: a nine to eleven, especially like a nine eleven GT three,
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  Speaker 1: But we've found that contender. I mean, it's essentially the
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  Speaker 1: same one. I'm a big fan of the Cayman's. I've
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  Speaker 1: always been called the poor man's Porsche. I just think,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got effectively you've got you've got this
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  Speaker 1: mid engine car, and it's superior to a nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if we're honest with ourselves, aside from
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  Speaker 2: it not having four seats, you've got a car here
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  Speaker 2: that I think, with the right driver would probably outperform
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  Speaker 2: pretty much every nine to eleven that isn't like a
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  Speaker 2: proper GT three or a GT three R rare. And
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  Speaker 2: you can see that Porsche has put a lot of
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  Speaker 2: effort into this. It's not just a car for the
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  Speaker 2: sake of being a car. They've cut thirty five kilos
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  Speaker 2: out of this compared to a non RSGT four, and
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  Speaker 2: a non RSGT four was still a light and fast car.
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  Speaker 2: So extensive use of carbon. I think it just looks
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  Speaker 2: absolutely awesome and I just can't wait for it to
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  Speaker 2: get here. But I don't know if you've seen the price.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the price?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to look for that now.
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  Speaker 2: No, let me tell you. So basically, the Cayman starts
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  Speaker 2: at somewhere around the one hundred and something thousand dollar mark.
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  Speaker 2: The GT four is two hundred and eleven thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: How much do you reckon this is?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say uploads of about four fitty.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is three hundred, three hundred thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand and eight hundred dollars. It's a big step up
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  Speaker 2: because it's what ninety thousand dollars more than a GT four,
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  Speaker 2: So that is a whole heap of cash, and that's
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  Speaker 2: before on road costs. It could even be four fifty
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  Speaker 2: by the time you add luxury car tacks and the
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  Speaker 2: other stuff they indecently take out of our pockets whenever
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  Speaker 2: we want to get something nice in this country.
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  Speaker 1: I think I still think it's a better deal than say,
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  Speaker 1: looking at a fairly top spec nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean a Carera S is probably around
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  Speaker 2: that three hundred thousand dollar mark, So you know, it
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  Speaker 2: is good value for money in that sense. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it just looks awesome. So what are your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 2: Though it's only available with the PDK no manual transmission.
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  Speaker 1: Really, that's weird.
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  Speaker 2: Is that not manual?
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  Speaker 1: Manual?
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  Speaker 2: I know, it looks like a manual, and then you
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  Speaker 2: assume in, Yeah, zoom in on the pedals and you'll
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  Speaker 2: see it's missing a pedal. So because you're listening to
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  Speaker 2: this and not watching it, that was Gordy showing me
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  Speaker 2: a picture.
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  Speaker 1: Of GC four US.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, maybe we should explain what you were
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  Speaker 2: just doing. Yeah, yeah, it's deceiving because it looks like
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  Speaker 2: a manual. But yeah, it's just got two pedals.
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  Speaker 1: So wow. I mean it's becoming more and more commonplace though,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I mean to put the times
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  Speaker 2: into context, it was able to lap the Nurburg Ring,
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  Speaker 2: the twenty point eight kilometer circuit in seven minutes and
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  Speaker 2: nine seconds. They also did a slightly shorter version of
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  Speaker 2: the circuit which takes two different measuring points, and that
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  Speaker 2: was seven minutes four So it's about twenty three seconds
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  Speaker 2: quicker than a standard GT four around the nurburg Rings,
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  Speaker 2: so bloody quick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you that that is a proper
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  Speaker 1: race car right there. Yeah, I'm kind of jealous. I
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  Speaker 1: got to see the what is it? The RAMTRX did
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  Speaker 1: you been driving the fifteen hundred. Yes, yes, massive car.
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  Speaker 1: I think we briefly talked about it last week. But giz,
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  Speaker 1: you looked like a real country boy in this thing.
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  Speaker 1: You really look like you're enjoying that.
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  Speaker 2: I am an absolute bogan. I didn't enjoy filling it
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  Speaker 2: because it has like a one hundred and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: liter tank and I used half the tank and I thought,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just go fill it up. And I was filling
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  Speaker 2: it and I thought, has this got like a giant
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  Speaker 2: hole in it that I'm not aware of? Because I
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  Speaker 2: got to about the sixty meter mark of fuel and
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  Speaker 2: it's still going And I'm like, okay, at two dollars
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  Speaker 2: a leter plus, this is going to really set me
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  Speaker 2: back something. But I just want to put this car
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  Speaker 2: into context. So the RAM fifteen hundred is is what
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: they call a mid sized truck in the States, and
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  Speaker 2: mid size is kind of funny because it's absolutely it's
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  Speaker 2: fucking enormous to something like a Ranger.
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  Speaker 1: You could fit in that tray. To give us an idea,
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  Speaker 1: what sort of car do you reckon you could fit
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  Speaker 1: in that tray?
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  Speaker 2: I think you, I genuinely think you could fit a
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  Speaker 2: smart Car in the tray.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I reckon you can fit a Zuki
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  Speaker 1: Swift yet like it is, it is huge.
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  Speaker 2: To put the size into context, it's about six meters long,
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  Speaker 2: it's two point two meters wide mainly due to the mirrors,
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  Speaker 2: and six meters long makes it almost a meter long
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  Speaker 2: than a Ford Ranger, longer than a Hord Ranger in
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  Speaker 2: terms of heights. It's too big to fit into most
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  Speaker 2: underground car parks, so I wasn't able to leave it
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  Speaker 2: at home because I couldn't get it into our car park.
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  Speaker 2: But the most impressive part is the engine. So it's
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  Speaker 2: powered by a Hellcat V eight and for those who
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: don't know what that is, it's basically the six point
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  Speaker 2: two Leader Supercharge V eight that they use in things
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  Speaker 2: like the Charger and the Challenger, and it just it
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't exist because that engine is absolutely monstrous. We're talking,
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  Speaker 2: you know, enough to do zero to one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: nunder five seconds and it weighs like two point six tons,
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  Speaker 2: so it is an absolute beast, and the sound is
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  Speaker 2: next level. The supercharger wine is incredible. It is just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it does not put a foot wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this car in a big way.
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  Speaker 1: It's exciting that they've done this. What's your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the interior, because I'm going to throw something at you,
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  Speaker 1: And I did see the interior in this, and I
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: think it actually, despite what I'm about to say, it
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  Speaker 1: looks pretty good. American cars, especially ones with attitude, say
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  Speaker 1: muscle cars make shit interior.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, see, generally that's true. The interior in this I
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  Speaker 2: think was pretty goo. The reason I say that is
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: the big trucks have like giant glove boxes. They're very spacious.
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  Speaker 2: They've got this huge vertical screen inside it. There's like
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  Speaker 2: a TRX button, so you press that if you want
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  Speaker 2: it to do stupid things. And they also brand everything.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a wireless phone charger, and in any other
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: car it would just be a wireless phone charger, but
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: in this it's called a RAM charger, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just want to put my mate. Yeah. And in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the engine, five hundred and twenty three kills
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  Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty two meters, but yeah, look I
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  Speaker 2: like the interior, but are you gonna tell me you
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  Speaker 2: don't look?
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it in this, I don't mind it. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool from memory when you're sitting
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: in it, it legit looks like a laundroom.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is exactly that.
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  Speaker 1: It's massive, yeap. And the branding just over the center
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: console there, just on the arm rest there, that's that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They've got like a little build plate that tells
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  Speaker 2: you the VIN number the engine, so it tells you
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  Speaker 2: the supercharger size, the amount of horsepower that it makes.
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: The thing I love the most though, the little plaque
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  Speaker 2: says something like designed in wherever It's designed Michigan, except
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: they forget to mention it's actually built in Mexico. So
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: this big ass American truck is built in Mexico, which
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: is kind of just a bit funny, but yeah, look
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: at I think the big deal with this is they're
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: not built in right hand drive, so when they come
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: to Australia these have to be converted to right hand drive.
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  Speaker 2: And the company that does this is based out of
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Queensland and it's called oz MV, so Australian manufactured Vehicles.
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  Speaker 3: Thing.
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  Speaker 2: The big thing about it though, is they've just announced
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  Speaker 2: to deal with my car, which is the old Kmart
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  Speaker 2: Tyron auto service name. Yeah, so you can get this
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  Speaker 2: thing serviced across the country. How much do you think
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  Speaker 2: this costs? By the way, so the price is about
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  Speaker 2: seventy thousand US dollars in the States.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Just a quick one. Don't you find it hilarious that
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  Speaker 1: you can take this big ass Ram into what used
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  Speaker 1: to be came out tired auto for a service? Yeah? Exactly.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine that when you were driving along? I
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: got to ask and you're looking at, say, some dude
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  Speaker 1: in a you know, a gim Bean button up shirt
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  Speaker 1: and a Monster Energy flat cap and he's in his
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: Ford raptor were you listening to a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Of this is Paul just cruising around?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: My god, warm summer's even Yeah, bounce, I've got a
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: met up with We were craving asleep with my sister,
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: so we to turn staring. I feel strangely racist right
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: now too. The boredom aver Turco and he began to
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: speak and then he just spat out some tobacco tobacco juice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So look, I think I think the
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  Speaker 1: Ram TRX fifteen hundred is incredible. I think it's an
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  Speaker 1: important car.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how much is it till me?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to say around about one seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so depending on which one you get. They had
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: one car there which was the launch edition. When I
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  Speaker 2: went to pick this up sticker to ninety. Yeah, it's insane,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. So I'll put that into context as well.
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  Speaker 2: So basically when they buy these, they buy them from
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: dealers in the States and over there because of the
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: chip shortage, there's a huge demand for cars. Dealers are
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: allowed to list cars for whatever they want over there,
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: and they're all charging around twenty to thirty thousand US
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: dollars above sticker price. So they buy it, They pay
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: GST and import tariffs when it comes to Australia, plus
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: luxury car tax I think is applicable to these as well.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: They then convert it. Then when they sell it, you
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: have to pay luxury car tax and all the other
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: bullshit on it as well. So the government is double
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: dipping on these, and the end cost is mainly all
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: just fees that you're giving to the government for no
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  Speaker 2: good reason.
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  Speaker 1: Going to buy this. This is going to be bought
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  Speaker 1: by the property developer, right the trade who's not really
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: a trading anymore, is doing pretty well for himself or
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: the CEO who wants to appeal to the common man,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: or Paul driving around giving it a bit of I
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  Speaker 1: could do that all day long.
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  Speaker 2: I know you could.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: I could just see you in the cubra. Excuse me,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: does anyone know the quickest way to Daniliguan? You got?
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: We should finish the show with that. I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I'd actually I'll tell you what if if you have
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: bought one of these, or you know someone that has,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: please send us an email to contact at the driveshow
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  Speaker 2: dot com toda you, because I want to know who
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: is buying these, because genuinely I would love to own one,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: because it is so offensive and I really did enjoy
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: pulling up next to people in like Rangers that were
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: lifted and with their two leader Diesel engines. This thing
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: just takes that that the measuring game up to just
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  Speaker 2: a very unique level.
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  Speaker 1: A compensate.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to be at the urinal next to
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  Speaker 2: one of.
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  Speaker 1: These, Yeah, it's it is a car that just stands out.
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  Speaker 1: Could you live with it as a daily No?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's impossible to park anywhere. So yeah, unfortunately not
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  Speaker 2: in all reality. If you don't go for the stupid
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: t Rex, you can get just a RAM fifteen hundred,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: they have like a four and a half ton break
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  Speaker 2: towing capacity. Even if you tow three and a half
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: tons with just a standard TOBAL, you will not notice
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: a caravan on the back of it, whereas toe three
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  Speaker 2: and a half tons with a two letter forward ranger
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: and you will know that there's a three and a
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: half ton caravan on the back. So that is what
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: people are using them for, generally for towing and just
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: for country driving. For a country drive, they're actually pretty
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: efficient for naturally aspirated V eight. The tower Rex is
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: just never efficient, but the standard RAM fifteen hundred ACTS
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  Speaker 2: is actually sort of half decent.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: It's the end of the world car the car actually
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it's the car you jump in when lock down four happens.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: And you want to drive to Tasmania, like across the water.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: He interesting one pick story this week with the government
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: and now seeing funding for the electric car market. One
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  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: I reckon a lot of consumers would ask when it
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: comes to electric cars, right is how far does it
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: take me? And how can I charge it? And is
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: this about to get easier? Because I feel like we're
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: going to talk Ionic five in a moment. And one
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: of the big turn offs I found with people asking
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: questions about it and stuff like that is, Oh, we're
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: just not set up. We're not set up yet for
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the electric We don't know, you know, people are afraid,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: they don't know where to charge it and whatnot. Are
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: we near the point where where we can finally have
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: electric cars in commonplace?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, that question that people ask, it's a bit
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: of a it's a bit of a silly question because ultimately,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: when you own an EV, you don't really think about
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: that stuff as much. And I can understand people apprehensive
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: before going into an EV. But I own a Tesla
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and do you Yes, it's a Model three performance.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Is Avatasla with the crazy zero to one hundred times.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It's quick, but it's not that quick.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's not the only time you've said
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that sense.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: No, definitely not so. Yeah. The government has come out
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and said that it's tipping in two hundred and fifty
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: million dollars into a future Fuels and Vehicle strategy, of
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: which one hundred and seventy eight million is ear mark
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: to support rollout of infrastructure. It reckons it will make
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: twenty six hundred jobs over three years while it's doing this,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and it thinks that by twenty thirty thirty percent of
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: new car sales will be battery, electrical, plug in hybrid
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: or hydrogen. So they want to add fifty thousand charging
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: stations in homes across Australia and also roll out public
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: charging infrastructure. It is ambitious and I think it's great,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: but it depends on the charges they're rolling out, So
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you've got it's a bit hard to explain because if
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you fill your car with petrol, it's basically the same
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: give or take wherever you go. When you put the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: thing in, squeeze the trigger, you know that it'll be
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: fall in about sort of five minutes. Well, with evs
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you've got different charge rates, so you can have a
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: ten out plug which is just like a socket at home,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: and that will take around twenty four hours to charge
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: a car from empty, or you can go all the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: way to a supercharger that charges within twenty minutes. So
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: they haven't specified exactly what they're rolling out, where they're
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: rolling it out, and which cars it will support, so
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you know, typical government, it is all very sort of
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: flaky and very vague as well, which I just don't love.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's also being said for the sake
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: of saying it, because at the moment that is the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sort of subject that is popular at to tackle. Yep,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right with the superchargers. I mean people,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I think generally people want to know, like's if it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a twenty minute job that can sort of fit into
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: their lifestyle. My opinion on electric cars since since driving
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: one has changed, I think that people well, eventually it's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: just different ways of doing familiar things, and I think
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: people's lifestyle will change around that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Once you own one,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you'll realize that you really never really panic about stuff.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You plan ahead, You charge if you need to. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: even living in an apartment, we've got the charging setup
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: and it's fine. I mean, the government's saying here that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: it will roll out fifty thousand household charges and a
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: thousand public fast charging stations, and they reckon it'll cover
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: eighty four percent of the population. So that's going to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: be enough for city folks. But if you are traveling
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: into the country or you do a lot of country driving,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: it's something that I think we're still not there yet
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: in terms of range. There are cars coming, and I
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: think by twenty thirty will well and truly have cars
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: that will get us the long range that some of
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: these people want, and also trucking and stuff like that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, let's see where it takes us.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: But I'm not going to hold my breath because knowing
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the government. You know, the thing that kind of annoys
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: me with any government is that when they commit to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a project like this, if the next government comes in
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and says, nah, it's shit, we're going to roll it back,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you end up with a turd of a project. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I think that happened with NBN, where it was going
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to be fiber to the home, then all of a
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: sudden it was fiber to like halfway to the home,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and you've ended up with this colossal shit storm of
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: an Internet network in Australia that could have actually been good.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think going forward though, in terms of saying something
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: like apartment blocks, I know that supercharging stations are becoming
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: will be a lot more commonplace in those.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and that's why we're setting up. I'm the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: chair of our Owner's Committee and at our apartment building,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and we're setting it up in such a way that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: if an owner invests in ev charging, it will increase
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the value of their property. The only downside to shared
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: spaces is you probably do what I do when I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: get home. If you park the car and a visitor park,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: you're like, ah, I can't be bothered going back down
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to move it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: That's not what I do when I get home.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: But that's right, that's what I do.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: So there is a photo of you next to my bed,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and I do crank up a bit of Shineada Connor.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Nothing compares to you.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway, but yeah, I think that look. Eventually, we'll see
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: how it pans out. But yeah, we've got to do
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: something because doing nothing really isn't working.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: People would be seeing a very sexy electric all over
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: social media, the Rivian, which is an electric U. It
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: looks beautiful, it's got these kind of crazy headlights. Basically,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: those cars that they're looking at are not real cars.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: They're pre production cars by the looks of it being
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: given to influencers. But yeah, this is a strange company
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and they're making some strange moves.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It's just insane. So they floated on the stock market
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: at I think seventy dollars a share. Right now, at
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the time of reading this, they're at one hundred and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: seventy two dollars a share, so they've almost tripled market
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: cap of one hundred and fifty billion dollars. This is
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a company that has barely delivered any cars at all.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love them. I think they look fantastic. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put that into context. One hundred and
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars is worth eighty five billion, and Ford
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is worth seventy seven billion. So this company that's delivered
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: virtually nothing is now worth double or triple that. The
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: other thing that's really fascinating as well, Amazon owns a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: big chunk of the company, and so does Ford. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: also further to that, Tesla is worth around one trillion dollars.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, we should talk Ionic five. What do you reckon? Yes,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: let's do it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: The twenty twenty two Yunday Ionic five Yunday's Bold Cutting
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Edge EV price to start from seventy one nine hundred
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: dollars for the two wheel drive or for the one
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: we reviewed at seventy five nine hundred dollars for the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: top spec all wheel drive.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So I got about two weeks with this car.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like him?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I think Yon Day have got it
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: almost perfect with this car. You could say this car
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is almost brilliant. The only problem is how it drives.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Let me explain everything about this car. I actually genuinely
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: love right, there's no doubt. There is no doubt when
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you're standing in front of it. It just stands out.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It looks, It looks crazy cool. Everything from the wheels
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: look great. I love it how it's they're almost flushed
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: with the tire and it's sort of machine yet it's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: got the kind of you know, that sort of spiralized
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: look about them, sort of divity things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: divity things. I'm pretty sure that's what was on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: pressure as it's in the pressure. I think they're really cool.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I think the headlights at the front, the square kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of tron esque style headlights look really cool. Same at
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the back as well, they almost look pixelated. The shape
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of it's great. The interior you can tell that Juan
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Day has spent a lot of time thinking about this,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and I think they've really tried to craft something kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of different, and it's this beautiful balance of different but
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: not trying to scare people too much. It's really cool.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: It's really minimalist. It's cool with that. It's got that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: center console that you can move up and down. I've
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: never seen that in the car before. It's got the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: glove draw.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: The little sort of box type thing. Yep.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I didn't like is the drive park
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: reverse things. The stalk is on the right hand side
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: behind the wheel. The first couple of days I'm like, ah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'll just get used to that. That's that's fine, And
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks I sort of did, but
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: it's still that to me was just.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: A bit much.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: A bit Yeah, it was just a bit. But then
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was like, well, if they were
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to move it back in the middle, then you wouldn't
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: have that really cool center console, which, to be honest,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I think that's more it's a little gimmicky. I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's cool, but the fact that the whole thing moves,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you could have just done that with the arm rest.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I think the whole concept is that you can get
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: out of the left hand side of the car because
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you know when you're because it's all flat and it
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: makes it Yeah, you could just slide it out of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the way and then you just walk through. Basically, that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: was the whole sort of reasoning behind it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Why I'd know.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: There are a couple of occasions where I've had to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: sneak out the other side, but that's.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Usually because you're involved with a lady of the night.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You're with like Honey Brown. She was a good bloke. Actually,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I've got to meet her. We had beers afterwards. The
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: other thing they say.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Is you could put bags down there, and what I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: thought was, well, yeah, you can put bags down there,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: but when you go around a corner, the bag slides
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: under your legs and makes it hard to drive the car,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't put bags down there. Hold on, let's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: give people some context here, right, So the Ionic five
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: is basically a car that was produced on a unique platform,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a unique EV platform. The previous evs N day had,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: like the Kner and other ironic we're all shared with
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: internal combustion cars, whereas this one was on an EV
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: platform only in terms of size, it looks like a hatchback,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: but it's actually quite big, and it's bigger than a
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Tesla Model three. The wheelbase is longer than a palisade
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and The Palisade is their big seven seater. It's priced
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: from just over seventy thousand dollars before on road costs,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: so more expensive than an entry level Tesla Model three.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And in terms of the models, there's only two in Australia.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: There's a two will drive and an all will drive,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and both of them are loaded with kits, so they
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: all come with all the bells and whistles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And I think the fact that it's got such a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: big drive platform is probably for me. It's probably their downfall. Like, look,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy driving it very much, but it's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the sort of car that you can kind of weave
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in and out of busy Sydney traffic. For instance. It's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: got like for a big car, at five twenty seven
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: roughly leaders in the boot, I kind of thought maybe
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: there could have been more.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the boot's really weird because, like I now with
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a kid, I just know all of the shit that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: my wife packs. When we go like literally ten meters
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: down the road.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's pop down and chatty, but that's pack Like we're
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: going to Tibet exactly.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: For nine years, so I know how much of a
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: pram and all that shit takes up, and when I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: put the PRAM and stuff in the Ionic five, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: was like, this packaging is really bad. Because the Tesla
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: has like forty or fifty centimeters of depth in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: boot beneath the floor that you can stash things. It's
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: got a front boot. The O wheel drive version of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the Ionic has a twenty seven liter front boot, so
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you can literally fit a cable in there. The boot
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: is tiny, you know, for the space of the car.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a little disappointed to that. Did you
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: try reclining the driver's seat or the passenger seat for
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the fully reclined.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought that was really cool. It's got
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: this I don't know what you call. I guess it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: got this feature where while you're charging the car, the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: driver's seat can fully recline pretty much flat.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's good in theory, and I think when we go
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to autonomous cars it'll be great. But it is definitely
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a gimmick at the moment. I like that it's something different, though,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you know, just for the sake of being different, but.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: You are it could be this sort of car Cabby's Drive.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: And this isn't even a joke, Lily, It could be
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the sort of car or an uber driver would drive.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: That's true, and they've got a bit of downtime, they
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: just take a bit of a chill.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And look in terms of the drive train,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: this really sort of it's an interesting one because it
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: competes on a number level. So the all will drive
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: version will do zero to one hundred and five point
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: two seconds, so it's pretty quick. It's not lightning, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it is quick. It uses a seventy two kilo what
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: our battery. One of the things I absolutely loved about
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it is it does a thing called a vehicle to load,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and what that means is you can plug an adapter
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: into the power socket and it lets you have a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: three point six killer what power outlet rated at fifteen amps.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I tested that on the side of the road
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: and I cooked a piece of toast. How cool was that?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I cooked future toast. Yeah, it's really cool.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, if you look at the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: applications for that, you could go camping, run like a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: camp kitchen, you could run a sound system, you could
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: do whatever you wanted. Really and I think innovations like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that make evs really cool. But I found that it
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't overly efficient. It's a little different here in EVS
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: they measure efficiency and killer what hours per one hundred
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: kilometers compared to literas per one hundred kilometers in a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: standard internal combustion car, and something like my Tesla, for example,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: will do sixteen or seventeen killer what ours per one
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: hundred kilometers, And that is if I'm thrashing it. This
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: for me was averaging around the twenty killer what ours
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: per one hundred kilometer marks. So it is pretty thirsty
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: in the sense of it uses a lot of electricity
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: to move that mass around.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Trains the battery. You know what I found a little
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: weird was it's literally one of the most futuristic filling
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: cars in there yon day have it still doesn't have
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: wireless Apple car play.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, man, that's what is going on? Does
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: my head? In? Hyundai offers wireless Apple car play on
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: entry level models and for some reason.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: The cheaper model key does exactly the same thing.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: The more you spend, the less you get. That stuff's annoying.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I think the key is silly as well. Why do
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you need a key? Like, one of the things I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: love about Tesla is you don't need a key the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: new Volvo XC forty recharge, for example, or the Polestar.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: To start the car, you just put your foot on
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the brake and put it in drive. And it's like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: why do you need a button that says start? And
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, okay, I'm in the car, my
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: foot's on the brake, of course I want to start it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, I see what you're saying.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit counterintuitive when it comes to that stuff.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I think keys will probably become fairly obsolete. Generally you
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: can do it with your phone, right, you can start
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the car with your phone.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So they don't have any of that remote
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: connectivity here in Australia, which I think is strange as well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It is your most advanced car and I can't connect
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to it with my phone. But look, in terms of charging,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it does up to three hundred and fifty kilowats of
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: DC fast charging. Currently it's capped to around two hundred
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and thirty kilo wats, but that means a charge from
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: ten to eighty percent at a rate of about seventeen minutes,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: which is pretty good I reckon for that sort of charge.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think all up this is a great car.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I love it. I genuinely love it. It changed my
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: attitude a little bit, quite a lot actually to electric cars.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I would have one of these as a daily driver.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: The fact that I don't, I thought to myself, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: need to change that, because it makes so much more
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: sense to have an electric car as a daily driver
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and then have the fun, petrol guzzler, dirty Porsche on
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on that. And like,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this car has some pretty cool stuff in it, like
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the they call it an E pedal. I think it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: called no I pedal.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So with the plus and minors.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but so you've got plus and minus on the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: steering wheel, which allows you to change the region level.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But if you keep going back beyond the hardest region level,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it does what they do in the Nissan Leaf and
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: in the Tesla cars where it will allay you a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: roll to a complete stop and it will then hold
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the car so you don't need to use the brake.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, actually that was said on this too.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tuned perfectly. So it's tuned really well. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: when you said it didn't drive that well for me,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: that extended to the ride Hyunda used to do all
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  Speaker 2: of their right in handling tuning for Australian cars in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: so you'd get the right feel behind the wheel. This
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't have that, and when we did our testing with it,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: it just has no body control when you hit continuous
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: undulations and you'll find that sort of stuff on country roads.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine in and around the city, it's really pleasant,
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  Speaker 2: no dramas, but the second you go to a country
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  Speaker 2: road and you cop those continuous undulations at highway speeds,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you're getting to the point where it feels uncomfortable and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel nice to drive.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So spending time with an electric car really did make
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: me realize how much that we subconsciously rely on sound
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and feel of a car. Talk is different compared to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a petrol car. It's sort of you don't feel that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: kind of climbing, you don't feel the rev I kind
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of miss that. I love that when I jumped back
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in my old car. I got to be honest, but yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it's strange when it's taken away, do you know what
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's one of those things that you do eventually
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: get used to, and they try and plumb fake sound
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: into the cabin. And they also have like a pedestrian
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: noise when you're near pedestrians. It is something you get
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: used to eventually, but it's something that's hard to I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: think once it's not there'll you won't notice it's gone.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So you will notice it when you get back into
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: an older car.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? Our kids are not going
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to have art?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Say would you have like a VK
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: commodore or something like that, All right, jump in. They'll
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: just look at that and go, God, this is like
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a bloody puff and Billy Coltrane.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Is that's right? They'll actually think it's the dumbest thing
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in the world that you had to put this combustible
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: material in it and wait for it to burn and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: do stuff. You know what I mean?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Like you, it does make it an electric does make
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a petrol car feel dumb, doesn't it?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Exactly? Just think about the moving parts. You've got so
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: many moving parts and bearings that need lubrication, Like it
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: is just this insanely comple think it's needlessly complex, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: it's just so weird that that's just normal for us.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I can't explain it better. I just thought it was
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, it's cool to look at, it is
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: cool to drive. For me, if I wanted to get
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: real picky, it is hard to kind of like. It's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: not the sort of car you can dart around in
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: busy traffic. It's just not. And that's just the fact
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: that it's so big in a platform yet it just
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel big.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, And for me, I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: was just disappointed by the ride and that for me,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to buy one based on the ride.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: The good news, though, is Kia has their version of
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: this car come called the EV six, that will have
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Australian ride in handling tuning, and I'm hoping that is
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: just what the Ionic five is missing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's it. Have we missed anything? No, that's it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's it. So now this is our wrap up section.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, way we box it up? Well?
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  Speaker 2: to remove? He's not allowed to say either Gordy or right.
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  Speaker 1: I described your the inside of your tesla as it
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• 35:37
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  Speaker 1: You know one thing, I think the complaints will be
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  Speaker 1: rolling and will be your primo shot.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, why oh, you've got a bit of a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: ten man, don't Yeah, I know that's back when I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: was allowed to go outside a child that I had
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  Speaker 2: to look after.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think he wrapped up
• 36:07
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